>15 minutes into XYZ. >game hands me kanto starters so I can cope with the kalos starters all looking like garbage

>15 minutes into XYZ
>game hands me kanto starters so I can cope with the kalos starters all looking like garbage

Holy shit, Thank you Gamefreak!

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kanto starters looks like shit too though

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hating kinosaur
      ngmi

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      ya finna seethe?

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Never used any of the gift pokemon and I outright refused the Lucario just because I could.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Delphoxkeks were on suicide watch while GreninjaCHADS were like wow water fire is a pretty good combo and i love Charizard.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >GreBlack folk
      >Chads

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I admire the determination of Greninja loving homosexuals to pretend like that Pokémons design isnt one of the shittiest and ugliest ever spawned. The will it must take to stay steadfast in shitty taste is admirable.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        GEKKOUGA is based as frick. way better than bara grass creature and furry fox.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should've been postgame honestly

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Showcasing megas early was way better than locking them into postgame only.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Showcasing megas
        You don't need Kanto starters for that.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You also dont need to lock them into postgame.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            No one's locking megas in the postgame. There are other pokemon with mega evolutions than just the Kanto starters. Hell, the first mega you see and use is Lucario.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >No one's locking megas in the postgame
              Yes and all is good.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            The mega Kanto starters definitely should have waited until postgame, but megas as a whole were fine as they were since you couldn't mega evolve until you got the Lucario anyway

            Especially since there were postgame megas anyway

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Theres literally no argument or reason as to why they should have put the kanto starters until the postgame.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                They have no reason to lock the Power Plant doors either

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Correct they should make more optional areas.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                The simple fact that giving you a second set of starters that early in the game is dumb, afaik every other game up to that point would at least give new pokemon original to the region rather than just old ones

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, they also give you the megastones, right? And those are new pokemon

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can go catch new pokemon just fine. Nothing dumb about having a choice to use a starter that got a new cool form.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The simple fact that giving you a second set of starters that early in the game is dumb
                why

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, they also give you the megastones, right? And those are new pokemon

                they gave the kanto starters megas over the kalos ones
                hell i can't think of a reason why they gave charizard 2 besides trying to appeal to people who grew up with RBY/FRLG

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >should've been after you're done all the game's content because it upsets my autism!!!
      thank frick you morons don't design these games.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Giving the player two starters + the free Lucario railroads XY into being an even easier game than it should be, it was a good move for its time but made for a lackluster gameplay choice

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          oh no the game goes from mashing A to sweep every npc to mashing A to sweep every NPC how could they do this to my toddler pokemon games bros? It's not like I can just go on the PSS and get a challenging battle in 30 seconds!!

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >bringing a lv36 to a fight against early-mid 20s
            wow you're so smart and cool and sexy

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >y-you can just handicap yourself on purpose
              cool, do the same in XY then and simply don't use the starter and lucario. Problem solved.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                not overleveling is not handicapping yourself
                especially if the argument is about difficulty in a game where numbers > skill

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >not over leveling in pokemon
                impossible unless you handicap yourself

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It depends on what you count as a handicap.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I count objective handicaps as handicaps

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Gee nice definition anon. Definitely helpful to the discussion.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >look yawnmom, I posted it again!

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          As shit as XY is, giving you Lucario, Lapras, and the kanto starters was a great choice so you dont have to use any dogshit ugly kalos mons

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If only they did that in Unova and Galar as well

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unova's whole thing was having new pokemon until the end of the game, so not possible.
      At least you can use these third-stagers as starter replacements

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        What are you talking about? Those three are literally the starters of Unova though?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous
      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't wanna play that Palworld ass region, so no thanks

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        What are you talking about? Those three are literally the starters of Unova though?

        Serperior is alright.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They most likely didn't give away the Kanto Starters early in Galar because of Leon already having a Charizard

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >15 minutes
    OP is so good at this game that he undercuts the WR pace to Sycamore by 7 minutes

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      kaloschads are just built different

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i cant into x and y
    the 3d looks really bad compared to sun and moon

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah im thinking xyz was based

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      i wasn't in this board during 2013 how much did sceptincelgays seethed about this?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I unironically had 3 starters on my team in my first play through: Chesnaught, Blaziken, Blastoise and then Lucario, Talonflame and Bunnelby's evo

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Two fire types
        >Three fighting types

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I was sort of bored of Pokémon at that point so I just didn't really give a shit about overlapping types or team building. I still steamrolled through the game though since it was very easy

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >is that multiple of the objective best type in the game?
          >AIEEEEEEE I'M GOING INSANE

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        this is incredibly similar to my Y team except sylveon instead of diggersby
        it was pretty great

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >2013-2014

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Me too anon, me too. X and Y were so good and so were those days that sometimes it just feels like yesterday.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      sovl

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Event exclusive Mega Stone
      >Pokemon you had to wait two months to transfer in if you skipped the event
      >Based

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        at least it was just an old gen pokemon and not one of the most shilled new gen mons requiring previous gen event mons in some stupid contrived method requiring two systems

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The stone being exclusive was lame but at least it was easy to get a Torchic, hell I'm sure I got a bunch on Wonder Trade.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Two fire types
      >Three fighting types

      Yup, if the Torchic event is available frog and toad are the only starters worth picking

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you me?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hey, I have that Blaziken!
      Good times man…

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fire is my favourite type so XY was a perfect opportunity to do a mono fire playthrough. Delphox, CHARIZAAARD, Blaziken made up half the team

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh that's a good point lmao. And Talonflame. Lot of fires early on. That's like never the case

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh that's a good point lmao. And Talonflame. Lot of fires early on. That's like never the case

        I'm fairly certain my brother did his playthrough with 5/6 members being fire types

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh that's a good point lmao. And Talonflame. Lot of fires early on. That's like never the case

        Did Siebold give you trouble?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good times, my dad played XY with me

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        How's you mom doing?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          *your

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >special held item
      >it was a berry

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >masuda helping his favorite starter shitmon
      >based
      frick off

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know about you guys but in the end, I spent most of my game time breeding berries (yes berries, not pokemon) and wondertrading

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    they should've given you a new starter after every gym tbqh

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    my favorite pokemon to use is the steelix you get at the 2nd gym just for trading a shitty luvdisc

    honestly I like how generous XY is with pokemon handouts even if it makes the game less balanced, it makes it more fun to replay than trash like DPPt where the game is poorly balanced AND the pokemon distribution is boring dog piss

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bait these days get creative at least

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        point out the parts of his post that are wrong

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The last sentence

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I said point out the part that's -wrong- not the part that's correct that makes you butthurt

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Sure buddy, don't you want to also post an overlevel starter with your post?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cope

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Steelix before the second gym is good
      homosexual. I miss when pokemon games had the balls to only give players shitmons.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >my favorite pokemon to use is the steelix you get at the 2nd gym
      Oh yeah huh? Well I can get a probopass in platinum before the second gym. How about those apples

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    bros...

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >playing in the middle of the night
      >that fireworks scene

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why did they give her shoes like that?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You know why

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        She's a prostitute and I'm saving her with my dick.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sexo

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      made for sexo

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Free Lucario in XYZ was based, seethe.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      that was the third game in a row they gave the player a lucario

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >kalos starters all looking like garbage
    wrong

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're supposed to debunk OP's opinion, not validating it.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        not my problem that you guys have shit taste.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Unironically liking Greninja is peak dogshit taste.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Peak contrarian opinion.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Seriously. Greninja is the least offensive starter evo that gen. There's a reason he's so popular.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The irony is lost on you.

          Peak contrarian opinion.

          You are delusional.

          Seriously. Greninja is the least offensive starter evo that gen. There's a reason he's so popular.

          >Greninja is the least offensive starter evo that gen
          *most
          >a reason he's so popular
          It was made broken then shilled in the anime and Smash Bros, just like Lucario. Everybody hated the design until those things were known.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You are delusional.
            It was voted the best Pokemon, so clearly hating it is being a contrarian.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              1. That poll was rigged in favor of Greninja.
              2. By that "logic", liking Greninja is contrarian now that newer polls exist.
              3. You are delusional because you believe people decide to hate Greninja because it's popular, when in reality they simply don't like it because it's ugly and don't care about how strong or imporant it was made out to be.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                1. Wrong
                2. Greninja always places in the top 30 in the newer polls.
                3. You are delusional because you believe people dont like Greninja.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                1. Google gets rich by spreading misinformation.
                2. The point is that one outdated poll doesn't make Greninja the most popular pokémon ever. It wasn't even true when that poll was made.
                3. I never said that. I explained why it's not contrarian to dislike Greninja and why people who like Greninja have no taste.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                1. Meds
                2. Nobody ever said this in the history of the universe
                3. Wrong

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It’s not contrarian to not wanna wienersuck your bromon

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your homosexual fantasies are showing again.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Calling out your behavior is necessary for your remission.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the ugly ultra beast turnermon managed to be one of the top ten popular Pokémon
                It’s fricking over. Poketards have no standards.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"oh neat, water starters are always great HM slaves."

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Greninja was still my ace and bestfriend

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >No mega for the starters

      Glad they realized not including the starters in the region gimmick is dumb as frick

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        giving megas to pokemon that are already new is a complete waste. That's what the kanto starters are for.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Didn't stop them from giving Gmax to new pokemon Megas aren't that big of a deal it's just another form change at the end of day

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Didn't stop them from giving Gmax to new pokemon
            yeah because dynamax exists to actually be an interesting mechanic and not to just blatantly shill new designs.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            This some people think Mega evolution is the end all be all of forms

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              They are. Thats why only Pokemon Game Freak values got them.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Have so little faith in your starters you have to make a big show of pushing out the Kanto trio within the first hour of the game
    Unironically the biggest burial in the history of this franchise. It's not even a matter of trying to showcase mega evolution, that could have just as easily been done by giving the player another mon that WASN'T a starter. Greninja being as over as it is is basically in spite of Gamefreak throwing Kalos under the bus.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Greninja being as over as it is is basically in spite of Gamefreak throwing Kalos under the bus.
      They knew greninja was going to be popular the moment it was concepted moron.
      They gave you Kanto starters because they wanted you to have 2 starters.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      they were deathly afraid of Gen VI getting as hated as Gen V
      the precautions such as this are best viewed in that light

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always choose Chespin and Squirtle

  19. 3 months ago
    Santa Claus

    Ur fast.
    Probably took me a few hours to get there.

    I benched my Charmander, because Braixen is better.

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >XY release was over a decade ago

    holy shit

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      cute

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I usually like to stick with the new pokemon introduced but I couldn't help but have Charizard and Lucario on the main team

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I couldn't help but have Charizard and Lucario on the main team
      how does it feel being such a mighty normie homosexual?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Feeling normal

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    And I thought Galar was bad with the Kanto shilling, boy how I forgot about this

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Environments were beautiful but didnt bother finishing the game after 12h.
    I think it's my least favorite pokemon game so far, but didnt play g8 + g9 yet

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >go to new region
    >woaaaah look at how much better all the old shit is
    Basically a fricking filler game

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >go to new region
      >woaaaah [fanfic]

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 6 starters are just that bad

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >make a new fire/flying pokemon
    >gives you Charizard in the same game
    What were they thinking?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      same reason johto made a new water/flying pokemon then gave you a shiny gyarados in the same game

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >KAAAAAAANNNNNTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOO

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >XY
    >Actually has pokemon variety
    >Underage morons freak the frick out because they want to be forced to use shitmon
    I'll never understand

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kanto homosexualry is a disease and should be treated as such. Coming into 10 generations of Pokemon and it's still bottom 3.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the pokemon game is bad because pokemon are in it

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the argument is wrong because I completely missed the point

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Go on anon, please tell us what your point is that totally isn't just "the pokemon game is bad because pokemon are in it"

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Don’t know about the other guy that responded to you, but the argument is about how spotlight is handled, not Pokemon being in the game. Sorry you’re an obtuse homosexual.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >how spotlight is handled
              i.e. “I’m mad the pokemon game has pokemon I don’t like in it”

              I wonder how many people would be crying about this of it were say, gen 4 starters being given out instead. Zoomers seem to be jealous that gen 1 is objectively more popular than whatever slop they grew up with.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >i.e. (completely different talking point entirely)
                You again miss the point. I don't them to handout previous generation starters at all, even though I like them. I like the Kanto ones as well and I'm glad they're in the game, as in usable. You're the only obvious zoomer who's unable to recall a time when newer regions weren't just temporary flavors in tandem with Kanto specifically over and over and over and over again, to be discarded completely and replaced with another flavor served together with Kanto over and over and over and over again due to the new regions never having enough spotlight to mesh into the overall series. It is only you seething that your internationalized brand disposed of every region's existence Kalos and up because they were never created with their own survival in mind but rather as soulless products to bring in money by any means necessary, even cheap nostalgia.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lot of crying and seething from you.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Why yes, I never actually had a valid response to your criticism to begin with. How could you tell?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I agree, theres no valid criticism against the starters being given to you.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Kalos started sucking Kanto's wiener
                lol
                lmao even

                A French Forest magically having the exact same layout as a Japanese one. Pidgey being a mandatory first encounter. Snorlaxes magically having an affinity for sleeping on bridges. Mewtwo magically having an affinity to stand in caves. Kanto starters being handed out for no apparent reason. Kanto pokemon being magically more prone to mega evolving. Pure coincidence dictating that you can only catch Kanto Legendaries in postgames. None of these can be lore explained in a way that accomplishes worldbuilding; only explained through the lens of “they wanted you to feel nostalgia”.
                >inb4 YOU HATE POKEMON IN A POKEMON GAME
                Not what I'm saying. That's strawmanning the argument, when the argument is how they are presented and how they take away spotlight from the new (indicating the new dex is shit, but I digress).

                >muh elite four
                What’s next, pokeballs? That's just how the Pokemon world is structured. That's like saying every democracy in the world believe Greeks are superior people. Meanwhile XY goes out of it's way to make you feel nostalgia for Kanto, while giving the finger to any natural feeling worldbuilding

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no rebuttal to the CHARIZARD bridge
                concession accepted zoomer

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                There already was a rebuttal. Kalos was the one that started referencing a past region out of proportion. All those multiple times add up and feel unnatural. Charizard Bridge is the most out-of-your-face references I have ever seen in this series.
                Gen 1:
                >Charizard on cover
                Gen 2:
                Champion has Charizard, Charizard on intro screen
                Gen 3:
                Charizard on Cover
                Gen 4:
                >Boat that looks like Charizard, Champion has Charizard,
                Gen 5:
                Unobtainable until postgame for only time except PLA, snuck in one obscure text namedrop that isn't the actual bridge's name
                Gen 6:
                Charizard gets two Mega forms, gets offered early in game
                Gen 7:
                Charizard become le epic Ride Pokemon all over the region and is part of region's culture
                Gen 8:
                Charizard is the Champion's famous ace, gets Max form, and is part of the region's culture even more
                Gen 9:
                tones it back a little for ones
                Besides Paldea, it's obvious which one had the least wienersucking of Lizardon.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Gen 4:
                >Boat that looks like Charizard, Champion has Charizard,

                Maybe I'm an oldgay but I dont remember Cynthia having a Charizard?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                he's talking about lance

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't them to handout previous generation starters at all
                i.e. "I don't like that pokemon show up in the pokemon game"

                >weren't just temporary flavors in tandem with Kanto specifically over and over and over and over again to be discarded completely and replaced with another flavor served together with Kanto over and over and over and over again
                I actually do remember that, because that's literally what they always were up until Gen 7 happened.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >let me ignore your point completely and pretend like you're saying this thing even though you explained how you didn't
                >lmao whataboutism
                >lmao muh Aloe started it
                lmao Kalos does no wrong
                Nope. Kalos started sucking Kanto's wiener, and I have nothing wrong with Kanto pokemon appearing in the game. I'm just criticizing the way that they appeared. Stop coping and start actually reading the content of the argument instead of desperately finding a away to shift to "regular broadcasting" servings of genwar images that have already been thoroughly addressed ad nauseam as if you are convincing anyone.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Kalos started sucking Kanto's wiener,

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's just encounter tables. Sinnoh references all past regions proportionally, unlike your Shitlos.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >That's just encounter tables
                yeah, it's just the most of the gameplay in the game as opposed to XY where you just see a single starter selection screen and then can ignore the pokemon the entire rest of the game

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                At the time of the Sinnoh games, Kanto Pokemon were roughly a third of all Pokemon at the time, and all the regions were Japanese and close to one another, so it made sense for Sinnoh to heavily use more Kanto encounters and reference the other three regions a considerable amount. These references were done in a way that built up the world (except maybe encounter pools, but this was due to less total pokemon at the time, so only certain pokemon would fit well in certain areas) and this didn't break immersion. it wasn't done to bait nostalgia. XY's pandering, in almost every example, is unnatural, with it's only explanation being "they wanted to stimulate your nostalgia", with these events barely making sense and being evermore focused on Kanto exclusively, when Kanto Pokemon at the time comprised of only about 20 percent of all pokemon at the time, and France being quite a ways away from Japan.

                Chadlos must be pretty damn good if the biggest problem people can find with it is "Pokemon are in the game"

                Amazing, over 10 years and the best criticism against KalosGODS is that a 2 forests look similar. Bravo.

                >lmao respond to the void with generic shitposts and tally a win
                So childish

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >At the time of the Sinnoh games, Kanto Pokemon were roughly a third of all Pokemon at the time,
                And yet the game is 90% Kanto Pokemon. Which is drastically more than XY. Curious.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >And yet the game is 90% Kanto Pokemon
                That is not true at all. Show me where I lied to shill my narrative like you are currently pulling off.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >That is not true at all

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit that looks bad, lets see a Kalos route.
                Holy shit thats soul.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cherrypicking changes nothing. Also, Kanto pokemon popping up more was already explained here

                At the time of the Sinnoh games, Kanto Pokemon were roughly a third of all Pokemon at the time, and all the regions were Japanese and close to one another, so it made sense for Sinnoh to heavily use more Kanto encounters and reference the other three regions a considerable amount. These references were done in a way that built up the world (except maybe encounter pools, but this was due to less total pokemon at the time, so only certain pokemon would fit well in certain areas) and this didn't break immersion. it wasn't done to bait nostalgia. XY's pandering, in almost every example, is unnatural, with it's only explanation being "they wanted to stimulate your nostalgia", with these events barely making sense and being evermore focused on Kanto exclusively, when Kanto Pokemon at the time comprised of only about 20 percent of all pokemon at the time, and France being quite a ways away from Japan.
                [...]
                [...]
                >lmao respond to the void with generic shitposts and tally a win
                So childish

                Holy shit that looks bad, lets see a Kalos route.
                Holy shit thats soul.

                >hurr durr racial jungle availability is good
                Pokemon shouldn't be living where it would not make sense for them to live. And certainly not when it trivializes the game.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Good thing everything in Kalos makes sense.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Good thing [fanfic]
                Ah yes sludge monsters nearby to a Royale Palace that's kept tidy, Pandas roaming outside of forests and jungles, and caves completely stuffed of non-cave pokemon

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes sludge monsters contrast the beautiful Palace well, Pokemon roaming around outside forest and jungles make perfect sense because its Pokemon and not real life and last one is just flat out lying since Glittering cave has your normal bat type pokemons like Woobat and rock types like Onix. Nice try though!

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >it's good that they do not fit whatsoever!
                >it's good that it makes no sense!
                >there's cave pokemon, which means the non-cave pokemon in the caves don't exist anymore!
                Thanks for conceding "everything in Kalos makes sense" was just you coping. Step one of grief is denial. Either that or you're simply moronic anon get help.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >it's good that they fit just right
                Correct.
                >it's good that it makes sense
                Correct.
                >theres cave mons in caves
                Correct. Glad we agree.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >they fit just right
                Sludge monsters near a royale palace that’s kept today is the opposite of “fitting just right” anon
                >it makes sense
                Pokemon being in the wrong hioms is the opposite of making sense, anon
                >there’s cave mons in caves
                No ones denying that. I originally said they mixed in mons that would not make sense to be in cave. That doesn’t fit and does not make sense. Stop forcing your autism about Kalos being somehow able to do nothing wrong. It’s a shitty game from your childhood that you still didn’t accept was the downfall of the series.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                ?? Those aren't even the encounters near the palace. These are the encounters near the palace, morono.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I was referring to Route 5 which is next to the mansion.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It’s almost like we were referring to this gulpin spawn the entire time schizo-kun

                Holy shit that looks bad, lets see a Kalos route.
                Holy shit thats soul.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Which you criticized for being near the palace when it isn't near the palace, morono.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                see

                I was referring to Route 5 which is next to the mansion.

                Try reading before shitposting for the sake of responding last.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I said palace b-but actually I meant mansion I'm totally not just shifting goalposts

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                How is confusing similar terminology shifting goalposts? In some places people use palace to mean mansion, but I digress. The same criticism applies equally valid in both cases. It doesn’t make sense to have certain filthy moms there.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >there can't be gulpin in a route outside of a gated off town that happens to have a mansion in it because uhh my fanfic said so

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean it even has a hotel so no, a city like that makes more sense to be well kept. Also it’s hilarious that you backed down from the other two examples because you know how inexcusable your “””defense””” is.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Sludge monsters near a royale palace that’s kept today is the opposite of “fitting just right” anon
                It makes perfect sense since and theres many reasons why they would be there.
                >Pokemon being in the wrong hioms is the opposite of making sense, anon
                Its actually in the perfecet "biome" since the line is a rerefence to juvenile-delinquents who usually chill at sport related places which are in route 5.
                >mixed in mons that would not make sense to be in cave
                Like who?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >there are many reasons filth would be rampant on the walls of a mansion
                Elaborate
                >delinquents
                Nice excuse. But that logic they can be anywhere. Even Legendary locations. LMAO THEY’RE DARK TYPE SO THEY CAN POP UP ANYWHERE isn’t good worldbuilding
                >Like who
                Why would wobuffet and Solosis appear in Kalos caves? This doesn’t exactly fit anon.

                >APPEALING CLASSIC DESIGN AS A FREE GIFT BAD
                >UGLY SHITMON MONKEY THAT EVOLVES INTO LITERALLY THE LEAST POPULAR POKEMON IN THE FRANCHISE AS A FREE GIFT GOOD

                >new dex is so shit they rely on old designs to keep the experience maneagable
                >new dex can actually carry a game successfully
                Yes

                The owner not being superficial means that they don't care to keep up with appearances and don't care about Gulpin being near them as that's their natural habitat. Meanwhile, Parfum Palace requires you to pay a fee to enter for the upkeep of the building to keep up with appearances. The game's message is about connections between others and the Shabboneau Castle and Parfum Palace explore two different approaches to that theme.

                Okay most of your post makes sense except for Gulpin being there specifically. How is it their natural habitat? In the other example in Sinnoh, Grimer popped up out of a literal Marshy area. I don’t really see what causes Gulpin to exist in that area bordering the mansion.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >How is it their natural habitat?
                Because they're found there. Gulpin and Swalot are slug creatures whose real counterparts would be found in a place like Route 5 naturally.
                >Solosis
                Dex Entry: Because their bodies are enveloped in a special liquid, they can survive in any environment.
                >Wobbuffet
                In order to conceal its black tail, it lives in a dark cave and only moves about at night.
                This one isn't the best because the Reflection Cave is much brighter than the Dark Cave, but it's the general idea of it.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >How is it their natural habitat?
                >Because they're found there.
                There's no reason for sludge monsters to be there.
                >Solosis
                That means they can be anywhere. I'd ask for a justification for that cave specifically but it doesn't exist.
                >Wobbuffet
                Yes, it's reflection cave. I applaud you for the in-lore reasons, though.

                >Elaborate
                They could be a reference to Paris smelling like shit with its old sewage system. They could be in route 5 to eat the rails as they can eat metal.
                >LMAO THEY’RE DARK TYPE SO THEY CAN POP UP ANYWHERE
                Bro... Pancham is pure fighting type....
                >Why would wobuffet and Solosis appear in Kalos caves?
                Uhh bro... Wobbuffet in gen 2 was found in Dark Cave...

                >it's Paris so it's supposed to be dirty
                So Lumiose.
                >Pancham is pure fighting type
                I know, I was mocking. Ot shows your justification's lacking.
                >wobuffet
                See above. Reflection cave doesn't make as much sense as the other caves in Kalos.

                Pokemon regions aren't real life.

                Sinnoh is still the same country as Johto in-game but Kalos is a far away land. It's apparently a swimmable distance from Hoenn, though.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I know, I was mocking
                Sounds like you have no arguments so you just insult.
                >Reflection cave doesn't make as much sense as the other caves in Kalos
                ..Cave doesnt make sense for a cave Pokemon? I think you dont make sense here...

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Sounds like you have no arguments so you just insult.
                The argument remains the same, mongoloid. "It's a delinquent so it can be LE ANYWHERE" is a dumb shitty excuse anon.
                >cave = cave
                So you didn't take the two seconds to read the point above. Wobuffet was originally justified to be in caves like this:
                >In order to conceal its black tail, it lives in a dark cave and only moves about at night.
                This only makes sense in caves that are dark, not full of mirrors where you can see fricking everything. Try actually reading instead of sperging.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The argument remains the same, mongoloid. "It's a delinquent so it can be LE ANYWHERE" is a dumb shitty excuse anon
                Nobody said everywhere expect you, what was said that they are close to sports facilities. Maybe you try to actually read...?
                >not full of mirrors where you can see fricking everything
                Looks like there are lot of dark places in the cave where it could hide its tail.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Pancham needs to have rollerblades for my argument to work
                >Wobuffet needs to stand in one spot for my argument to work instead of just opt for a dark cave
                How’s it like being a Black person who can’t think?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                needs to have rollerblades for my argument to work
                Strawman. Try again.
                needs to stand in one spot for my argument to work instead of just opt for a dark cave
                Uhh yeah a slow mon who uses counterattacks and is based on a punching bag most likely doesnt move much..

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Strawman
                How about actually explain what you mean by “Pancham needs to be there because I said so” instead of having the other person have to do guesswork
                >h-he’s slow
                It still doesn’t make sense as a long-term habitat if you quite literally never be in most of it, which is brightly illuminated.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >How about actually explain what you mean
                Read the thread.
                >It still doesn’t make sense
                Sounds like you are stupid then. Also it doesnt just live in caves since it can be found in safari zone grass so i dont really know why you are so autistic about this irrational XY hate.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Read the thread
                I already did and dissected your defense. Stop coping and please provide your explanation analysis.
                >you’re stupid if you think slow creature still move around and wouldn’t do so living in a place that is majority unideal for its biological niche.
                You seem to be the stupid one, kid. Especially when you fail to realize that safari zones are artificial locations with imported mons that didn’t choose to be there. Sorry you’re just an insufferable zoomer who can’t articulate his thoughts properly.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I already did and dissected your defense
                No you didnt, you even claimed Pancham was dark type which is laughable.
                Safari zone was just one of the places it lives, other sinclude forests, lakes and fields which you can see yourself in Bulbapedia. Looks like you are out of arguments so you resort to ad hominems which is sad but expected...

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you even claimed
                No, I applied your logic of “it’s a delinquent so it can be everywhere” to dark types also being mischievous to show how dumb your logic about it being able to be everywhere was. You then shifted to sporty locations arbitrarily without any supporting reasoning whatsoever.
                >ignores what a safari zone is
                I’m sorry anon I already explained it yet you just seem hell bent on shitposting. Wobbuffet is always in some secluded area where visibility is poor, not a fricking mirror exhibit that completely contradicts its whole schtick.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No, I applied your logic of “it’s a delinquent so it can be everywhere”
                Strawman. I never said that.
                >Wobbuffet is always in some secluded area where visibility is poor
                Headcanon.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I never said that
                For the millionth time, it’s the same logic. >Headcanon
                How? It’s exactly what the Pokédex entry we’re discussing says, and is confirmed by every other place it appears naturally in previous game.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                apologies for mistaken greentext, but if you’re not a newbie you’ll have no issue reading this

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I dunno bro doesnt look like it has much of a poor visibility

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >isolated island with a valley
                Thanks for proving my point. No one can see that thing in Sevii, which barely has people

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Route description
                >The terrain of Ruin Valley is mainly covered in tall grass. In the center of the valley is the Dotted Hole (containing the Sapphire), which is also surrounded by a small pool of water. There are also some bare patches of earth. This area of Six Island is fairly mountainous, despite there being no actual mountain here, and many hikers can be found exploring this area.
                >many hikers can be found exploring this area.
                :^)

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >bulbapedia

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Elaborate
                They could be a reference to Paris smelling like shit with its old sewage system. They could be in route 5 to eat the rails as they can eat metal.
                >LMAO THEY’RE DARK TYPE SO THEY CAN POP UP ANYWHERE
                Bro... Pancham is pure fighting type....
                >Why would wobuffet and Solosis appear in Kalos caves?
                Uhh bro... Wobbuffet in gen 2 was found in Dark Cave...

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's about the proportion of references. 90% of references to other regions in games Gen 6 onwards is towards Kanto. The only exception to this is Legends Arceus which mentioned other regions with a relatively equal distribution. I saw references to Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Unova, Alola and a few to Galar

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                > It's about the proportion of references. 90% of references to other regions in games Gen 6 onwards is towards Kanto
                Then why does Gen 4 have drastically more Kanto references than Gen 6?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't. I barely remember any meaningful references to Kanto in Sinnoh other than Professor Oak.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It doesn't

                >That is not true at all

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes in real life Japan there are the same animals in Hokkaido as in the real life Kanto region. I would be concerned if real life France has the same fauna as the real life Kanto region though!

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pokemon regions aren't real life.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Kalos started sucking Kanto's wiener
                lol
                lmao even

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Kalos and up
                nice try bort but your western slop is included within the nugen trash

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nope. Acklos started nugen-ism. have a nice day.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                calling *you* the zoomer is a cherry on top

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                100% factual

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's handled perfectly fine.

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >in an alternate timeline

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't think it was possible, but you managed to make all of them uglier. Well done.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        fakemons are 97% of the time ugly

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      why did my tank knight turn into some american football player/wrestler
      the only one that looks good is greninja but that's probably because it's mostly just ash greninja without the ash parts

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    We all know if it was the gen 2 starters instead then people would throw a shitfit in spite of all the "gen 2 starters deserve more attention" you see on r/Pokemon, because hypocrisy.

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chadlos must be pretty damn good if the biggest problem people can find with it is "Pokemon are in the game"

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Amazing, over 10 years and the best criticism against KalosGODS is that a 2 forests look similar. Bravo.

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kalos is BMWW paradise.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thats just what France is like

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      definite blackmark

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
  36. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No one tell the moron b***hing about Gulpin what Poke Radar encounter is on Route 212 (the route that has Backlot's mansion directly on it) :^)

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >BDSP only
      Even then, that at least was sold to me by being right next to the great marsh, which visibly bleeds into the route. That route is a huge mega route arranged like an L so there’s a lot of distance between the mansion and it, while Kalos route 5 is a hallway right next to the building with gulpin that appear in hordes. I get that it’s a small detail but there are many other examples in XY like this. It’s the little things that add up and gradually make for a less believable experience.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >BDSP only
        no one tell him

        he might start having a mental breakdown as he slowly realizes that his favorite game not only has dogshit distribution, but the distribution it does have makes even less sense than XY

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          My post still mogs your point of you ignore the first two words because the next two are “even still”. Thanks for the clarification on your inability to read English properly.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >i-it’s ok that a literal sludge monster is encounterable even closer to the mansion because…um…game I like did it

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >even closer
              No anon, look at both maps. In Kalos route five the grass is just outside the mansion to its right. Grass in 212 is far South. That area is very long away as it’s an actual route instead of a couple staircases like in Kalos, and they justified it with the Great Marsh. No such justification exists in Kalos

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Looks closer than route 5 to the kalos mansion tbh

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                see

                >two routes away
                Renew your prescription.

                i even drew a line of how close they would be you obtuse moron. You’re just trolling now.

  37. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Test

  38. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Complaining that slug monsters can be found in a route that's two routes away from a mansion is a new low for Kalos haters, but truthfully I can't say I'm surprised

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >two routes away
      Renew your prescription.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh you're talking about the Castle. That's totally intentional as we learn that the owner had given all of their possessions away over the years. Poison slug monsters being near it makes total sense and fits with the game's worldbuilding and message.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wait a minute anon. I promise I’m not fricking with you, I’m just trying to understand you. I read the first half and thought you had something nice to say and then….just massive confusion. How does the owner being charitable, probably from age, have anything to do with sludge monsters being next to his mansion? And then, how does that have anything to do with the game’s worldbuilding and message? I’m asking because I want to know your logic, not just to mess with you. Please elaborate promptly.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            The owner not being superficial means that they don't care to keep up with appearances and don't care about Gulpin being near them as that's their natural habitat. Meanwhile, Parfum Palace requires you to pay a fee to enter for the upkeep of the building to keep up with appearances. The game's message is about connections between others and the Shabboneau Castle and Parfum Palace explore two different approaches to that theme.

  39. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kanto wants me to experience Kanto
    Johto wants me to experience Johto and Kanto
    Hoenn wants me to experience Hoenn
    Sinnoh wants me to experience Sinnoh
    Unova wants me to experience Unova
    Kalos wants me to experience Kanto and then past regions
    Alola wants me to experience Alola and past regions
    Galar wants me to experience Kanto and then Galar
    Paldea wants me to experience Paldea, Kitakami, and then part of Unova

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I guess we need more kanto

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        johto (+kanto) remake soon bro

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Kanto wants me to experience Kanto
      >Johto wants me to experience Kanto
      ftfy
      even Hoenn has more Johto in it than Johto

  40. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >APPEALING CLASSIC DESIGN AS A FREE GIFT BAD
    >UGLY SHITMON MONKEY THAT EVOLVES INTO LITERALLY THE LEAST POPULAR POKEMON IN THE FRANCHISE AS A FREE GIFT GOOD

  41. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny actually, I think the ninja frog dude was probably the first starter I actually liked since Gen 1 itself.

    Over the years there have been acceptable designs like flame rat and smugleaf, but ninja frog was the first one I actually LIKED since the OG trio way back when I was still a literal child.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yep. XY has good new starters as well as good classic starters as an additional option while BW just gives you one set of fricking awful starters. Truly kino.

  42. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >XYZ
    >there are Z timeline anons posting on this board right now

  43. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Not realizing that Kalos was supposed to be stealth Kanto 3D.

  44. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pokemon?

  45. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Shitfox wasn't only cucked by 2 Charizard forms
    >but also by a gift Torchic from the very start of the game
    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  46. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Delphox killing furries en masse was funny ngl

  47. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"Oh, my X team?"
    >Greninja
    >Charizard
    >Aegislash
    >Snorlax
    >Tyrantrum
    >Lucario

  48. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like XY so much I love the cute graphics (peak of pokemon), the cute areas, the 3d models, I love being a cute aryan girl and playing dressup
    this game makes me so happy
    I like to imagine myself as serena making out with Valerie

  49. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I boxed my Kanto starter after getting it because it felt wrong using a starter not from the region the game is set in.

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