>17.8% of gamers beat Starfield
>17.3% of gamers beat Baldur's Gate 3
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>17.8% of gamers beat Starfield. >17.3% of gamers beat Baldur's Gate 3
>17.8% of gamers beat Starfield
>17.3% of gamers beat Baldur's Gate 3
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Most people don't finish games.
Retro games tend to have much higher completion percentage. Just goes to show nu-gamers are ape-brained mongoloid trash
retro games outside of RPGs take less than 8h to finish
Yeah, because old games don't drag on for a 100 hours. Imagine wasting 100 hours an average game when you could instead play 10 great games.
I'd love to see a modern player beat Contra without save states or cheating, and how long it would take him. What they lacked in length they made up for with replay value because they were arcade-dififcult.
I think it's because people playing retro games are people who specifically are interested in those games, and are not simply picking up what's new and fresh, or doing the "hey gamestop man, gimme new cool game I need a present for someone".
Most likely modern games will also see rise of completition % in decade or so, when only people playing them would be ones who specifically commit to playing them.
But please don't get distracted from seething about the tribe on the other side of the hill, you clearly need it.
Average DnD player
>goty
>more than 3/4 of players didn't finish it
Ganker will defend this
Normies are limited, but they can sense the vague outline of greatness.
I beat it, obviously. Pity our brothers who have not the fortitude to enjoy things on a level reserved for higher beings.
The endings were the weakest part of the game though.
>Side with Goblins
>Kill Tieflings
>Kill druids
>Kill Harpers
>Side with Absolute in Act2
>Make deal with a Devil
>Partner with Bane worshiper
>Become a Bhaal assassin
>Tav becomes mindflayer
>Suck brains out of Githyanki savior
>Still get good ending and be praised as a hero...
Agreed. The game pretends to give you choice but it just railroads you. They didn't even bother adding anything neat about *not* using the mindflayer powers. Meanwhile, gamers are going nuts because the game responds to some minor bullshit.
Yeah. I think large part is due to people never getting to Act 3. Act 1/2 do a decent enough job storytelling and being reactive to player choice but then in Act 3 it's mostly for nothing.
The choices in Act 1/2 were just superficial in so far as Act 3 is concerned but most player never get far enough to realize this.
Overall I think BG3 does deserve GotY but the railroading at the end was a let down for sure.
Idk why, but this is the most interested I've been in this webm in all the times it's been posted. Girl is a cute
starfield main campaign is 20 hours long, that why
>18 hours of loading screens
>2 hours of actual gameplay
all of bg3 achievement were higher not that long ago, they all took a dip when the winter sales began dut to a high number of new players.
I remember checking when I finished the game last month and the "finishing the game" achievement was at more than 20%.
The combat becomes a slog at the end and turns take forever and the combat becomes more simpler and boring and there’s a lot of bugs in act 3 along with it not having a strong directional goals
Bg3 too long
Starfield just sucks
People played BG3 because they wanted a romance sim. They stopped playing once they scratched that itch.
>steam
who gives a frick?
I didn't finish either of them, BG3 had game breaking bug and I couldn't progress the story, Starfield is a Bethesda game in these I just frick around for 300h and never finish the main story.
What was the bug? Curious, as I also experienced a gamebreaking bug
The games are so awesome people don't want to finish them
because literally everyone was telling new players to just rush the main quest repeatedly
as if space shouts mattered
I don't know about Starfield but BG3 is a very long game and normies don't play games every day.
BG3 takes forever if you actually do all the side content, plus act 3 is an absolute slog and is plagued with bugs and performance issues. Dropped that shit not long after I entered the lower city.
Those are insane completion rates for a long CRPG like BG3, though. I never thought it would crack 10%. For example, both Pathfinder RPGs have way worse figures.
WotR doesn't track if you play below normal equivalent, and I suspect a lot of people just finished it on easy.
Yeah it does. The achievement is called "The Final Threshold" and it's at 11%.
Deadfire has a 17.8% completion rate. Pillars 1 has 14.8%, which is surprisingly less. I guess Deadfire's main quest is super short though.
BG3 slows down in the later acts and everyone gets bored. Starfield just keeps getting better the more you play so people never want to stop.
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That's a lot for such a long game.
The average gamer don't really finishes games and only play like 3 games a year.
Starfield doesn't have any mods worth playing yet. BG3 is a much longer game
BG3 was played comprehensively while bethesda themselves was telling everyone to focus on main quest and starborn power farming
that's still pathetic
Bethesda games are all ridiculously easy to beat, I accidentally beat Skyrim in less than an hour one time and most of that was spent blacksmithing in Riverwood. After that I did one dungeon, then straight to Alduin.
On the flip side, the Baldur's Gate games are actually difficult to complete and it's easy to get stuck in a situation where most of your party is dead and you have to start the game over from the beginning.
If so few people have beaten Starfield chances are it's because they just gave up and quit playing. Based on the gameplay I've seen it is a mind numbingly easy game and people on here have complained about it offering no challenge before.
>After that I did one dungeon, then straight to Alduin.
You had mods on, there's no way to skip the main quest like that.
Of course I had mods but nothing to skip the main quest line, just a bunch of extra weapons/armor and companion mods. You can google speed runners beating the game in 20 minutes with glitches. Without glitches people have beaten it in just over an hour. It's definitely possible. Keep in mind I was not even intentionally trying to complete the main quest I did it by accident just following whatever objectives and waypoints I was given.
>gets caught in his lie
>doubles down, humiliating himself even further
Why do this, anon? Just admit you're wrong. You're making a fool of yourself.
For different reasons. I played BG3 exhaustively for 200 hours, didn’t make it to balders gate, and stopped playing for now
They were all busy finishing FFXVI.
That's a very high clear rate for a RPG.
Uhh bald sissies pur game of the year was supposed to be the best AAA title in all of history yet its so boring nobody bothers to finish the game, what is going on???
Weren't they gassing up "DO NOT TALK SHIT ABOUT STARFIELD UNTIL YOU BEAT THE GAME ONCE, THE REDOS CHANGE *EVERYTHING*"
Tencent bot accounts boosting Starfield numbers.
New influx of players from sale.
Starfield players asked for a refund.
Starfield's campaign is 5 hours long.
Baldur's Gate 3's *first act* is 10 hours long.
If you really take your time with both.
100% act 1 in BG3 (including Grymforge and Mountain Pass) is ~40-45 hrs.
Including side quests, yeah absolutely.
THEY DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME
I listen to a lot of gaming related podcasts and it infuriates me a lot to hear the hosts and gaming journos sucking BG3's dick and then go "yeah I'm still in act1, the game is so massive lol!" months after release.
Don't get me wrong, I really liked BG3, but it just makes the hosts seem like absolute hypocrites and bandwagoners.
Keeping in mind, also, that even clearing a game like this once isn't enough to know jack or shit about it. It is built for multiple playthroughs and these brainless chirping toads are going to fricking claim it's the best thing ever when they havn't gotten 1/4th of the way into a SINGLE FRICKING RUN.
Pick up a guitar and strum it for 3 minutes then claim that you are not only a guitarist but also playing the guitar is the greatest thing ever and has totally changed your life. Deranged beyond comprehension. Trepan these scoundrels and drop them into a river.
Honestly, where the FRICK are my fellow extreme degen gamers. I want a Youtuber that plays 12+ hours per day upon release like me. I swear I'm being sincere.
Only one I know is MortismalGaming. He only does reviews after 100% a game
Yeah but he's a shill like every other small channel that doesn't want to get blacklisted and not get review copies. No review copy = no views = channel death.
He gave Starfield a glowing review praising shit that isn't there and has a record of deleting YT comments that call him out.
The entire thing is fricked, you can't get a good review close to launch anywhere but from people you know personally. Any decent review will take anywhere from a week to a month after launch, if not later.
Gaming is dead so these companies are spending hundreds of millions of dollars to market their games made for nobody to the widest audience possible. Lol and behold 90% of these people have no real interest in their games. What's pathetic is that bg3's meager sales would have taken a massive hit if they didn't market the game to the lowest common denominator and probably would have put larian out of business if they didn't
Starfield is shit so nobody bothers.
Baldur's Gate 3 is good but the cRPG is too much for most people and becomes a slog regardless of the game's quality.
Compare it to other 2023 games:
>Hogwarts Legacy has 30% completion ratio.
>Resident Evil 4 Remake also 30%.
>Armored Core 6 40-48%.
>Like a Dragon Gaiden 60%.
>Spider-Man 2 54%
For some older games:
>Elden Ring was as long as BG3, arguably can be longer, and has 30-40% completion ratio.
>Original Sin 2 is very old at this point and only sits at 12%.
>Persona 5 Royal is massive and is 26% on Steam and 42% on Playstation
>Final Fantasy VII Remake is 35% on PS and 29% on Steam, also very long
There a simple conclusion here: nobody fricking wants to play cRPG shit, niche games tend to have above average completion ratio, game length has SOME impact on completion ratio but it's comparatively small.
There is a very good reason why cRPG is a dead genre and will remain so.
elden ring is definitely not as long as BG3
I've put 250 hours in Baldur's Gate three across a solo and a co-op playthrough and simply haven't beaten it yet. The breadth of content is simply massive.
You're moronic
Same, have spent close to 220 hours across 3 playthroughs but have not actually finished the game once.
Turns out larian games are ass
Starfield's main quest is like 12 hours long, you won't even get out of act I after 12 hours in BG3
Act 3
Starfield is great
The problem is peasants were expecting a good No Man's Sky, while we patricians knew it was always supposed to be a space Fallout
>space fallout
more like space borderlands
Reminder that the average playtime for Starfield is 40 hours. Ganker's shitposting does not correspond to reality.
>13 bazzillions players
But its only 15 000 right now on steam.
> On steam
Not quite the own you think it is.
concurrent players does not equate copies sold.
It's PR speak, it counts everyone who downloaded the game on gamepass even if they played for 15 minutes and uninstalled it
Starfield is boring and full of random bullshit and loading screen interruptions just to get to anything interesting. Most people are going to drop BG3 once they learn what the combat is like.
Bg3 act3 is a wall that makes a lot of people at least claim burn out in the forums
Act 3 fricking sucks. Act 2 is mid. BG3 won all those awards and accolades based on the first 1/3rd of the game. However, Starfield is garbage the entire time. AC6 should have won GOTY.
>Act 3 fricking sucks
Why?
the city is boring to explore and the performance tanks in act 3. The last fight right before the final boss when youre marching through the upper city to the mother brain is the worst section in the entire game.
Its not TERRIBLE, but its definitely the worst part of a great game
relative to act 1 and 2 its poorly thought out, paced, has worse quests, the city itself is boring to look at, the climactic plot beats are scream cut content due to how lame they are.
>giant sewers level
>turns take a million years because every encounter is loaded with trash enemies
>reuses bosses from previous quests
>almost every quest is helping some obnoxious girlboss that talks way too much
>you probably hit the level cap just a few hours into act 3
>a giant floating brain is a moronic enemy
>we're running around Baldur's Gate fighting mooks like we're level 1 again
Act 1 had a great balance between exploring, combat, plot advancement, talking, character development. Act 3 is just a complete slog. The quality of everything takes a complete nosedive in Act 2, and it only gets worse in Act 3.
While this is somewhat true I think people are too hard on chapter 3 because it's late into a playthrough, for me act2 is the weakest and act 3 is perfectly fine.
It's basically always like that with CRPG, DOS and pathfinder also have this " the last part is the worst" syndrome.
hmm
>bg3 has 1 more hour of content
>no one finished it
>meanwhile millions are completing starfield because it's higher quality content
You may have a point
BG3 is good but it didn't really innovate and also didn't solve the itch the community had for another NWN game
Starfield however, is a box of surprises, I've never seen as much creativity in a single AAA game since LittleBigPlanet
A large majority of players don't finish games. They just play the game for 5 hours and quit it.
most gamers have the attention span of a weasel, devs just dangle the next trend in front of their faces and they go "oooooh shiny me want"