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Rather go Boxing Ring
based nintendo for btfo competitive gays
Yes based Nintendo now it's diaper games are same for mantoddlers like you and will never be taken seriously ever, as goty contenders or otherwise.
>goty contenders
Why should I care about what western journalist homosexuals think about video games?
Maybe people can stop taking garbage video games seriously and get real jobs
>he care about what journos say about videogames
Is that bad?
How about an explanation for the people in the back who don’t care about nintendo? We deserve a laugh.
Nintendo aren't interested in their games particularly Super Smash Brothers to be esports.
wrong
they do, they just want complete control over the scene while putting in as little effort as possible
It’s more like they want as few repercussions from hundreds of autistic manchildren interacting IRL as possible. I’m literally a tourney-going smashgay and I can’t even blame them.
I don't get it. If a bunch of people want to get together and play a video game, how is that something Nintendo can control?
It's not and Nintendo isn't stopping that. You just can't get together to make money off the game without filling their rules
But nobody is making money at tournaments
The they shouldn't be upset about these changes since they don't affect them
Nintendo told smashgays that only a few pedos are allowed to gather at once.
>only a few pedos are allowed to gather at once
they're obviously trying to keep the smell at an appropriate minimum
We wanted Nintendo to give us a million and to fly us out to different parts of the world for promoting their game for years, not this.
Nintendo wants its fans to stop playing old games it doesn't sell anymore.
>How about an explanation for the people in the back who don’t care about nintendo?
Nintendo is going to sue people for playing their games on camera if they have more than 200 people at the location
They can have their tournaments.
As long as it is basically safe for work, non discriminatory, and it doesn't turn a profit.
The funny thing is that there are a ton of rabid nintendo haters who think that e sports actually turns a profit.
LOL
>The funny thing is that there are a ton of rabid nintendo haters who think that e sports actually turns a profit.
Not just Nintendo haters, Nintendogays think that too. It's so fricking stupid.
valve, blizzard, and riot can't even make money on their esports and they fricking sponsored it.
Valve was profiting off their esports, it was even confirmed by one the DotA devs. I'd have to browse Reddit to find the post again but essentially they just don't like how much work it takes when they can make more money with the same effort on Steam. If DotA is the $40 million revenue machine, Steam is like 20x that.
Not just Nintedogays, a lot of "gamers" think that too. They dont realize E-sports is not profitable, which is why is it dying across the board.
Smash players rape children when left on their own so nintendo had to create guidelines for them to abide by.
New rules for smash tournaments:
>No mods, especially no online mods
>No sponsors
>No children
>No profits
>No sales (food, drinks, merch)
>No third party controllers
>No player's expenses paid by *anyone* else
>No organizations hosting tournaments (only individuals)
>No streaming on sites that have ads (which you can't disable on twitch)
>No charity tournaments without getting explicit permission first
>No games that didn't launch in the tournament's region
>Only 15 switch games can be licensed
>No discrimination based on ideology
Tournaments must be:
>In someones basement
>You have to pay yourself to get to that persons basement
>No Mad Catz controllers
>Smash Ultimate only
>18+ Obviously
This basically kills all tournaments. Impossible to make money this way, no? I guess everyone who shows up can pay $5 and winner takes all or something.
Tbf if you're using video game tournaments as your primary source of income you deserve what you get
most esports tournaments struggle to break even because there is no money in it, the tournaments are not run for profit they often struggled to break even
Grassroots tournaments are not for making money
it kills the current climate of hosting big events that take up a venue, big production (fancy stage, equipment to run the game/streams), and prize pools. basically if you want a tournament for any Nintendo game, it better be For Fun and not For Glory
>I guess everyone who shows up can pay $5 and winner takes all or something.
Kino, the way it used to be before everyone wanted to make a ton of money being tournament organizers.
One one hand what Nintendo is doing should be illegal (IP law shouldn't exist), but on the other hand tournaments should be a fun social experience and not a job.
I would rather hang with these homies than spergs who only carr about getting paid
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The only problem with IP law is that companies can own IPs, IP should only belong to everyone actually involved in creating it, and be completely non-transferable even willingly. Upon death of everyone who owns it, anything with true real world utility becomes public domain and entertainment only content can have whats already been made be distributed but rights to create any new content with that IP die completely.
Current IP laws are still 100x better than just letting people do whatever they want with shit that doesn't belong to them though. Shit only worked in the past because literacy rates were 10-30% in a world population exponentially smaller, so there was way less threat of morons co-opting your work and defining it. It still happened but its almost guaranteed to happen in the modern world and IP law is the only way to leash that sort of cancer.
>anything with true real world utility becomes public domain
I can smell the Judaism.
??? this is so that things that NEED to be passed around and iterated on can be, things like commercial machinery or educational textbooks or anything else that is used to improve life and knowledge. i think thats the opposite of israeliness
wanting useful shit to be free to create and use isn't israeliteey
having a subscription model for your water is israeliteey
Why does everything have to be about money? Isn't the prestige of being the best enough?
Money attracts competition of higher quality and nobody gives a shit about being the best at a sport with no payout. Even broke ass speedruners have charity events.
>nobody gives a shit about being the best at a sport with no payout
Then I'm glad Nintendo fricked them in the ass. Its just fricking video games not the goddamn Olympics. Things weren't like this when we were young.
>Its just fricking video games
It's 2023, get with the times gramps.
Are they not videogames anymore? How are they called now?
>implying it's not *just* x = it's *not* x
Get some English lessons too, ESL.
So....they are still videogames. Gotcha. Thanks dude.
Nobody said they weren't. Learn to read.
Yeah, my bad.
NTA but they're just fricking video games. Its because of people like you who try to elevate them to something greater than what they are is part of the reason why modern video games are shit. Let video games stay fricking video games instead of troony Black person propaganda microtransaction season pass BS.
Playing video games in a competitive setting for cash prizes has frickall to do with "troony Black person propaganda microtransaction season pass BS" or whatever thought terminating nonsense you've poisoned your brain with.
Cool, so you've never SEEN a tournament, got you. You stupid motherfricker. You're stupid AND ignorant and have no FRICKING idea what you're even talking about, good job for exposing your moronation.
sounds like what you're doing.
So true! Hey, we should stream this tournament so everyone can see you be the best at this ga- oh wait we can't stream it on youtube or twitch, but hey maybe we can get 5 people to see this on rumble or b***hute or something idk if they run ad, if they do we're fricked!
>This basically kills all tournaments
No, it's basically what most other tournaments already do.
>I guess everyone who shows up can pay $5 and winner takes all or something.
good. esports is a cancer.
You could have it on twich as long as ads show nintendo products exclusively
Too much of a smell so they had to limit participants
>only want one thing: Play and enjoy your game.
Then just run a tournament without streaming, sponsors or prizes.
>I HATE NINTENDO
>but i also want to do nintendo tournament and nintendo fan games
wacky tendies
>love nintendo games
>love nintendo devs
>hate nintendo corpos
these ancient japanese bones have heads stuck up their ass, all they can see is shit so they think shit is normal
They've literally sued the non-supported tournament scene out of existence
You can literally just ignore and do it anyway.
>and nintendo fan games
No i don't.
We do locals like that every day but bigger tournaments with people from all over the country need money
I show up with my calculator you b***hes ban me
Okay, don't make any or offer any money as a prize if it is truly just about the love of the game, then.
That's literally what Jap tourneys do. They have no cash prizes.
Some of them do find loopholes though if they make them global tournaments and host the finals off of Japanese islands. Arc Revo World Tour usually has their finals in the US.
You know you don't have to lick Nintendo's boots now that the new Sony game has a troony in it, right?
>new
the last of us part 2 isn't new
I have yet to see one of you pedos explain how not caring about this is boot licking or defending Nintendo.
not caring is fine. seeing people actually defending them or celebrating it IS bootlicking
rent free
I'm more amazed it took them this long after what they did to melee and PM.
Teenagers wasting their school years trying to be the best at a very specific entertainement product probably goes against nintendo's philosophy
>Constantly mod Nintendo games
>Constantly emulate or pirate Nintendo game
>Realise you now need Nintendo’s permission to run any tournament
>Nintendo puts out this
Sucks to be a smashgay
Don't lump me in with the tourneygays
I'd go as far as stop prohibit every sponsored tourney or sponsored players. I'd find some lawful thing to enforce that. I hate "pro gamers".
POST YFW YOU'RE NOT A TOURNEY gay
>spent 10 years telling nintendo to frick off and not working with them
>surprised when this happen
i do wonder if not thinking about long term consequences is necesary to be a good smash player.
if this was any other game but smash id feel bad
but the smash ~~*community*~~ is literall pedos and the greasiest losers in existence
youre good at a game from 20 years ago
cool man
maybe if you played the new game they would do new tournaments for it
but no all the smash gays only want to play that game
new tekken comes out everyone moves to it
new SF comes out everyone moves to it
new MK comes out everyone moves to it
new smash comes out
meh ill play melee forever bro XDD
frick you
t. tournament TO
>New SF game came out, everyone hated it and the scene just fricking died until an even newer game replaced it
>New Smash game came out, everyone hated it so they decided to just keep playing the old one instead
One of these approaches seems substantially less cucked than the other
Plus it's not even true? People still play SF3
>everyone hated it
the one case this was true was smash 4
>New Smash game came out, everyone hated it so they decided to just keep playing the old one instead
Ah, shit that didn't happen. But we DID get a small handful of fans of Melee shitting on people who played the newer games because they refused to learn a new game, and because they didn't want the new game to outshine Melee (all of them have, because they are newer and have more content). Meleegays actively shit on fans of non-Melee games because they feel threatened by their existence.
Worst take.
I apologize, your take isn't the worst, I didn't see
>new SF comes out everyone moves to it
I have no idea about MK or Tekken because I don't follow those crowds, but SF's progression to 5 and 6 was anything but natural. Capcom goes out of the way to kill the tournament scene for their older games.
When Street Fighter 5 came out people absolutely hated it because it was a broken fricking mess, had 8 frames of native input delay, barely any playable characters and was considered significantly more shallow than 4. Tons of professional players were hating on the game. Capcom then went out of their way to drop all tournament support for Street Fighter 4 on the spot, prevented third party large tournament organizers from hosting Street Fighter 4 tournaments so they would host Street Fighter 5 tournaments instead, and basically forced any professional Street Fighter 4 player to suck it up and switch to 5 unless if they wanted to lose their job. There was also a ton of pressure on professionals because many professional players got their paychecks from Capcom cup, and if you shat on the new game people were worried they wouldn't get invited to play, indirectly pressuring players to pretend SF5 was a good game when it was barely playable. I'm sure they did something somewhat similar for SF6 as well, but since SF6 released in a much more playable state it probably wasn't as bad/controversial.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Nintendo would pull of the exact same garbage if they had players who were reliant on tournaments/sponsorships for their livelihood, but Capcom is an example of a company fricking over the playerbase in order to control their tournament scene as they've actually gone and done it.
>BAD GOYIM! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT VERSION OF THE GAME NO MATTER WHAT! DON'T YOU KNOW THE ECONOMY WILL COLLAPSE IF WE DON'T DO THIS!!! NOE CONSOOOOOOM
>tournament tournament organizer
All if the pedo allegations were for nuSmash, melee chads are too obsessed with the game to even think about pussy
melee keks are too busy not showering and complaining about how the game isn't fast enough.
it's true. back in 2004, i was at a smash tourney as a spry, twink 14 year old boy. a hot girl and her hot boyfriend in their 20s completely preyed on me. these monsters took me to their room to give me dick, pussy, and blowjobs. i couldn't believe what the world was coming to. anyways, we went at it again after i lost in pools, and kept going until i was 16. ahh, the early 2000s, when teenagers were still having sex. i miss the old days.
I'll never understand the vehement hatred for competitive Smash like this, you clearly have no idea what the frick you're even talking about or even been to a local
>Corpo tries to crush a grassroots scene 🙁
>Corpo (Nintendo) tries to crush a grassroots scene :0
Why are Ganker tendies such bootlickers?
the issue is that meelee tried to grow beyond just grass roots and had neither the profesionalism or care needed for nitnendo to allow it.
Just keep doing locals and upload the vod to youtube like the japanese do it. no stream.
the japanese stream their tournaments
So melee's only crime was getting too popular which means the big corpo is now suddenly in the right to IP abuse it to death? cuck mentality. Too bad you're too busy tounging Nintendo's butthole to mod the old animations back into the newest bingbingwahoo kek
their sin was they never adapted to their own popularity
is rare.
>is rare.
Virtually all their tournaments are constantly streamed on channels like eastgeeksmash, maedakun, tamisuma, etc, with English rebroadcasts on VGBC. If this is about Melee, that game is basically dead as frick outside the US and Canada, but Ultimate thrives and 64 still gets the occasional big tournament like Kanto.
How many threads will the anti-nintendo discord make about this before they move on to something new?
is it anti nintnedo?
i see most people glad to see smeelee players suffering again.
Gee, it sure does suck to be a Smash fan right now.
I don't know anything about tournaments, is 200 an unreasonably small number? Also, why might Nintendo want to limit the number in this way?
becasue they dont trust TO to handle more than that wihtout any issues.
>is 200 an unreasonably small number?
It's pretty damn small compared to the 1000-man super gigahomie major tournaments of late like Kagaribi and Smash Con, so the competition won't be as strong and unpredictable anymore.
>Also, why might Nintendo want to limit the number in this way?
Because they're moronic.
Ultimate alone had several tournaments in 2023 with more than 1,000 entrants, a lot of them in Japan. 200 is very low unless it's an invitational or summit, hard to even consider a major. Big majors have a lot of appeal because they spend all weekend whittling that down to top 8 and the payout is potentially very large for those players. Japan and Nintendo have a big issue with that for some reason. aMSa out-earns most most Japanese Ultimate pros just by coming to America and placing reasonably well in Melee.
aMSa literally works for Nintendo, so it is okay
frick acola and miya tho
If you look at several guidelines you can clearly see their intention is to try to suffocate tourneys by limiting their revenue and discouraging players from attending.
>no sponsorships
>no food or drinks
>prize money can only come from participant fees (wich have a hard cap), and NOT from spectator fees
They basically want to kill the competitive scene (again), but are trying to do it underhandedly to avoid getting flak from outright banning tourneys like they did in the past.
The no food/drinks/merchandise thing is really fricking stingy. What you're telling me I can get a sandwich and a soda or buy a cute handmade kirby perler from an independent small artist? What's so bad about it?
>What's so bad about it?
Nintendo isn't getting their cut
There are literal who local tournaments with close to 200 attendees sometimes, and these smaller tournaments make most of their money by selling snacks and drinks which Nintendo has just banned.
Based morons at Nintendo forcing the pachinko parlor model over here, TOs will have to run "unassociated" snack distributors next door instead
>There are literal who local tournaments with close to 200 attendees sometimes, and these smaller tournaments make most of their money by selling snacks and drinks
And this is bad because...?
>And this is bad because...?
No prize pot obviously
Is this so they can be monitored or contained etc?
You know coz the smash community tends to have actual pedos in it
Aren't esports dying anyways? This is a good thing
200 players? Do you need more? That’s a lot of players. This is a Nintendo tourney so the players will probably be shit.
Splatoon Koshien tournaments attract thousands. Not players, thousands of TEAMS, 4 players each, plus substitutes and pickups.
200 is still too many, the odor will cause smog clouds for the whole tri-city area.
Surprised they allow them at all, after all the pedophilia and raping
Oh no, some 13 year old boy got to live the dream or whatever, the horror, worst thing ever. Oh no.
seems you're projecting there buddy. Not sure what 13 yo wants to be groomed by some smash homosexual.
covid is still a thing moron
uh no?
e-''''sports'''' projects the opposite image of what family-friendly games should be about
wish i could care about some autists being mad that a corporation won't support them wasting their lives slaving away at a defunct entertainment product but that's life
I don't understand it. if they just want to play the game why not just play it?
um because they NEED to be paid for it okay?
because people have been programmed into thinking that anything they do HAS to be for profit. must find a way to monetize their play, justify playing a game for 8 hours a day, "get on the grind" etc
doing stuff for fun is reserved for "losers" and people that don't "get the bag."
this
>only want one thing: play and enjoy your game
i dont see the issue at all
and i say this as a project+ and ex remix enjoyer
Take a shower and frick off tourneygays, you're stinking up the board.
Oh man haha that's so tragic if only there was an already established officially endorsed tournament circuit in place that Nintendo could have just focused on supporting rather than choosing to basically crush the entire scene.
Dr. Allen told these people over a year ago that regulation was coming and these morons instead just put their heads in the fricking sand after obliterating the only olive branch they had because some other pack of morons got jealous that a rival esports org had actual support from Nintendo. These morons are only getting exactly what they deserve.
This, everyone was too stupid and busy yelling frick Nintendo ect to actually see how big of a deal it was that actual support for melee from Nintendo was possible. The community decided to follow fricking gimr of all people an now on top of having constant shutdowns the potential threat of Nintendo showing up one day and shutting everything down just grows larger.
What's the logic behind this? Why not just let people make tournaments?
Sakurai dislikes Melee's fast gameplay because it goes against how he personally enjoys playing his own games and resents how popular Melee remains even after establishing an official tournament scene for Ultimate. He considers it a mistake and refuses to reimplement several key features that melee fans consider essential before they'll agree to any replacement. Meanwhile, the Nintendo suits see Melee as competition for Ultimate, since it's cult following gained a lot of press during the Brawl-Sm4sh era and served as a walking advertisement for why their newer products were worse, and since history has shown that the dev team refuses to budge, has elected to simply squashing the Melee scene like Google or Microsoft crushing competition in IP court.
Why would Sakurai be involved in decisions about tournaments
Because he's the lead dev who's in charge of all creative decisions and is the official spokesman for the franchise.
>create a game so popular and beloved that it still draws record-breaking crowds two and a half decades later, completely mogging everything else your peers put out
This is an artist's wet dream, but Sakurai keeps throwing a tantrum. Why?
>This is an artist's wet dream
It's actually an artist's nightmare, specially if achieved early in their careers.
Imagine having to compete with your older self for the rest of your life and never reaching that "lightning-in-a-bottle" moment ever again.
Not a problem for anyone who doesn't autistically insist that their fans are morally wrong for enjoying their content in a way they don't personally like. Imagine if the SF devs spent the rest of their careers trying to patch combos out of their engine since they considered it a bug and not a cool way the players took the game to heights they never intended it to go.
>Imagine having to compete with your older self for the rest of your life and never reaching that "lightning-in-a-bottle" moment ever again.
Yeah but they are CHOOSING this, if they had embraced what Melee was and refine it further Smash could've been even bigger than what it is now. Nobody shoots themselves in the foot like Nintendo.
Melee is less successful than Brawl and Ultimate. It is less liked by human beings than Brawl and Ultimate. You need to stop coping.
>It is less liked by human beings than Brawl
That is absolutely not fricking true. If Melee and Brawl were released for switch, the former would sell ten times more.
>numbers of people liking a thing means it's the better thing
better go buy the REAL games of the year, Call of Duty and FIFA
>numbers of people liking a thing means it's the better thing
READ, you fricking idiot.
>Yeah but they are CHOOSING this, if they had embraced what Melee was and refine it further Smash could've been even bigger than what it is now.
There is no way this is possible since more people like Ultimate and Brawl as games. More people bought them, more people played them, more people preferred them. We are talking about a single series here. The only other metric you have is your personal opinion, which is worthless.
Feel free to prove that any time.
>Feel free to prove that any time.
Holy frick you can't really be this moronic.
ANon, Melee can be played on the Wii. You are - and I'm trying to be as kind as I can to you - a liar. You make unsubstantiated claims, refuse to offer any kind of evidence or argumentative backup to them, then call names and misrepresent data so you can try to win on technicality. You COULD have gone with tournament views, but I suppose you knew that was only a tiny microcosm of the playerbase, so good on you not taking the obvious dead-end.
>Melee can be played on the Wii.
New copies of Melee were not available for purchase after Wii was released, so while you can play Melee on Wii, you can only do so with a used or pirated copy, neither of which ticks the sales counter.
I guess since you can't infer it, I'll spell it out for you. Once the Wii came out NOBODY was buying Gamecube games. Just like nobody wanted to buy Wii games once the Wii U came out and so on. This rule goes for every console on the planet. Not to mention Nintendo ceased all Gamecube-related productions by 2007.
But if you are going to continue being dishonest just because of your hateboner for meleegays, that's your prerogative.
>less people paid for Melee, therefore it's less successful, therefore you're wrong for thinking it's the better game
Yes. Melee is not a good game. If it were good it would have made more money.
Melee outsold Super Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, and Metroid Prime. Melee was only limited by being on the gamecube, and was the main contributor to the gamecube not being a total flop.
How many of those 7 Million melee buyers you think they did it for the american tournament scene?
Not even 1%, you're bragging about having these 1500 players tournament, that number is absolute shit to what Smash actually sells.
Tournament guys are not even a million of the buyers of any game.
I was using tournaments as a metric for popularity, not as direct CAUSE of game sales, you fricking moron. Popularity causes tournaments, not the other way around.
>I was using tournaments as a metric for popularity
That's your problem, tournaments are not a metric for popularity.
MK has shit numbers everywhere be it tournament or streaming compared to Street Fighter, guess who sells more?
Tekken?
Yeah Tekken outsells Street Fighter too by a massive amount.
>tournaments are not a metric for popularity.
Yes they are.
>MK has shit numbers everywhere be it tournament or streaming compared to Street Fighter, guess who sells more?
Street Fighter. You're right in that Mortal Kombat FRANCHISE has sold more games TOTAL than Street Fighter, but only because there are are way more of them. Per title, Street Fighter does much better.
>MK11 sold 15M
>SFV sold 7M
>But SFV sucked
>MK10 12M
>SF4 9M
If anything what you said is the other way around, SF had a massive start with SF2 and all it's ports to everything that existed, eventually MK caught up, Tekken surpassed SF the same way too.
Smash pulls SF numbers as well, yet Smash destroys SF in sales too.
Tournaments are a shit metric for fighting games.
By this logic smash ult isn't a good game because it made less money than FIFA.
they also decline to make more money from selling Melee, therefore Melee will always be not successful despite
>surviving for 20 years and having multiple 1000+ man tournaments a year
>zoomers getting into the game without Nintendo advertisements
>an online mod blowing the frick out of Nintendo's online for their current game
>they also decline to make more money from selling Melee
what a disingenuous post. You mean they do not create ANY games for the gamecube anymore? wow shocker.
and you were disingenuous right back. who said it had to be the original gamecube disc? why can't it be a rerelease fo the switch? a downloadable emulation like their other classics? why haven't they done this despite the obvious support the game has?
>less people paid for Melee, therefore it's less successful
This is exactly how any business looks at it, Nintendo in this case.
That has everything to do with the console itself and not the actual quality of the game.
>if they had embraced what Melee was and refine it further Smash could've been even bigger than what it is now
Holy delusion
Smash U got outsold by fricking animal crossing
>Yeah but they are CHOOSING this, if they had embraced what Melee was and refine it further Smash could've been even bigger than what it is now
KEK, melee gays thinks they're millions.
You absolute delusional moron. Most of smash's sales are from casuals, it always has been. In fact, because they know this, they deliberately dont want to alienate those casuals.
You moron.
>highest tournament entrants in EVO are games like Street Fighter
>highest selling fighting game not including Smash is Mortal Kombat
Why do you think MK sells more than SF without being a tourneygay game? Is it because of the tourneygays?
Read a book.
>moron thinks Sakurai makes the rules about Tournament entries and settings
>also thinks Melee is some perfect god of a game that has no flaws and cannot be surpassed
Total idiocy.
>also thinks Melee is some perfect god of a game that has no flaws and cannot be surpassed
>only uses a small handfull of characters
>has to ban the majority of stages
>perfect
Smelee gays are moronic
Licensing? That just reminds me of the Panda Global fiasco where the CEO was going around trying to buy up smaller tournament scenes and add them to his company's circuit that Nintendo signed off on and led to Smash World Tour Finals getting cancelled because they didn't get the license by Nintendo to host it.
time to add another entry to the boycott nintendo list
>completely ruin someone's life by taking 30% of their future paychecks at age 50, even after serving a prison sentence
>slippy cease and desist
>etika joyconboyz design charity dmca
>limited time games (all stars & mario 35)
>fan game shutdowns (am2r, etc. just shut down when it released, good timing)
>fan mods shutdowns (botw multiplayer, sm64 online, more i can't remember)
>fan video shutdowns (glitches, behind the scenes, boundary break, vinesauce mario 64 chaos edition, pointcrow botw)
>fan channel copyright strikes (vinesauce, pointcrow)
>shutting down fan tournaments
>removing game soundtracks with no way of listening to them officially anyway except for limited edition CDs only sold in Japan
>now removed ridiculous partner program that had very odd revenue share and restrictions
>joycon drift never being acknowledged (ok they finally caved)
>amiibos and mini consoles artificial scarcity
>major game annoyances still staying in games (looking at you animal crossing)
>paying for online and getting p2p multiplayer is atrocious, and with the new expansion it's even less worth it
>drip feeding 30 year old games that have been sold as digital downloads for 15 years so you have to rebuy them over and over and now you can't even "own" them.
>selling games at 70 euros just because you can, never really dropping prices
>selling "remasters" for 70€ and they're getting less and less advanced every time
>sending a private investigator to spy and stalk smealum doxxing him and having a whole flowchart of how they planned to deal with him
>terrible refunds
>carpetbombing the shit out of many great emulation/rom sites that had gone untouched for years
>the constant DMCAs and C&Ds
>sold a Super Mario Bros. rom they downloaded on the internet on their official wii shop
>ran a price fixing cartel in europe
>ripped off the actual creator of donkey kong (ikegami) by illegally manufacturing boards without their involvement
>the constant DMCAs and C&Ds
This is literally fake news. They only go after stuff that's actually illegal.
>(except Pokemon)
There it is.
They don't handle Pokemon directly, TPC does.
But my narrative!
Illegal in the smallest sense. They could just not give a shit too like a lot of other big studios do and just let people have fun with free shit
Problem is dumbfricks setting up patreon and all other crap.
Any other company would do same.
Explain why Mario Royale needed to be shut down
Because the stupid c**t that created the game made a patreon.
They were also working on their own Mario Royale.
>sold a Super Mario Bros. rom they downloaded on the internet on their official wii shop
but they hired the guy who literally made the dumping software referenced in the ROM's header.
(me)
i'm gonna try to add sources to all of these
>etika joyconboyz design charity dmca
Lmao that's a good way of making everyone disregard your post
they got hit because it had joycon in the name and not joy-con, absolutely petty reason
Don't forget the countless porn DMCAs. InsomniacOvrlrd, Diives, Kurodood, a handful of others.
i guess i could include those but i understand those more as they're actually damaging the brand
>as they're actually damaging the brand
How?
because there's a lot of puritanism out there
First of all, no there isn't, but more importantly, people getting upset over porn are not going to blame the subject matter
We were talking about porn fan art, not the melee community. That being said, no, the melee community is not any worse than any other fighting game scene (they're all pretty shit). And again, the melee tournament scene having controversy does not affect Nintendo in the slightest. They're just being homosexual authoritarians because the Japanese are universally autistic.
>Japanese authoritarians
Pretty much, they arrested someone for posting gameplay footage to youtube for the first time the other day
Like a hundred members of the Melee community got outed as sex pests, which was a huge chunk of the scene. That's just the shit cherry on top of years of complaints about poor mannerisms and creeplike behavior.
>a hundred
no it wasn't. not even close to that amount.
It was like four people from the 4/Ultimate community, actually.
>ZeRo
>Ally
>Nairo (he was the victim)
>CaptainZack (the superpredator)
Forgot to mention
>Salem
>Samsora
>Hyuga
>Cinnpie
>WaDi
>aNTI
>D1
>Keitaro
I knew I didn't remember all of them, I kinda stopped paying attention. Some of those you listed weren't personally involved though. Samsora for example only knew about the Zack-Nairo situation and said nothing, AFAIK.
They're literally no more or less damaging than anything else on that list.
lol
lmao
>etika joyconboyz design charity dmca
I'm pretty sure it was because they had 'Nintendo' written on them. Nintendo (company) told them to remove their name from thoss joycons; they didn't. So Nintendo acted.
I'm not gonna reply to the rest of it, but I'm sure other are vs as well. I'm surprised you didn't mention Bayonetta voice actor, after spending 6 months making threads about her.
i think i heard about that in passing, will add it
remove all your eceleb bullshit and I might take you a tad seriously
>can't have third party sponsors
>can't show third party logos and ads on a broadcast
>can't sell food and drink at your event
genuinely what the frick am i reading
>Smash pedos and Transtoon autists are the only ones seething
based nintendo
Here are the actual guidelines: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Legal-information/Community-Tournament-Guidelines-2467744.html
Don't take twittards at their word.
tl;dr if you host a tournament of a Nintendo game and don't follow these rules, you get sued.
Highlights:
>cannot exceed 200 entrants for in person and 300 for online
>cannot generate a profit
>can generate a profit from streams/YouTube, but not >9k euros per year for each person getting paid
>not allowed to host modded game tournaments at all (so now Nintendo will sue you for even hosting a PM tournament)
>cannot have any sponsorships involved in tournaments
>cannot use titles, logos, or images of Nintendo games or characters to promote the tournament (so you cannot specify the name of the game in the name of the tournament). Screenshots are allowed, though
Truly frick Nintendo. They always pull this shit and don't have a way of their own
BEHOLD
How does a 201-man tournament hurt Nintendo?
How does paying your staff more than $9k a year hurt Nintendo?
It would literally kill the company
The smash community brought this upon themselves.
Seems excessive, but then smashgays are to blame.
You forgot the part that this only applies for unlicensed tournaments. All majors already negotiate with nintendo beyond these guidelines
Tell me, why should I worry about the small group that wants to get paid to play smash when I'm a person who plays it on the weekends with my bros because it's fun?
It's a fricking party game, deal with it.
nintendo saw the big house grands and said yep now's a good time to pull the plug
Based Nintendo, imagine the smell of 200 Smashies, any more than that and it would have to be considered a safety hazard.
Based, competitive shit ruined games, especially fighting games. All in the name of "muh balance".
No you fricking dumb Black person, I don't want an ultra mega dragon to be "balanced" with a common grunt so that some Black person can win his $500 prize money. Frick off.
But anon, these rules are for a game from an era before all that started happening.
You said based, but it sounds like you love exactly what based Nintendo hates.
>a game from an era before all that started happening.
and? the game is from that time but the tournaments are from today for that game
Throat it deeper b***h, that's it
Melee is not blanced at all, yet the skill ceiling is so high that players can take shit characters and succeed with them against significantly better characters. Marth while always good was considered a pros dead end for a while, then out of no where a ken player was the best in the world again. Now, he didnt even make grand finals, and a sheik did. Theres a yoshi player cobstantly placing top 8.
Show me those big tournaments with Bowser as a winner. I'll wait.
Go ahead and prove that, too.
>Show me those big tournaments with Bowser as a winner. I'll wait.
show me an ultimate tournament where any bottom 8 won.
>252 player Illinois regional
>252
ILLEGAL
>regional tournament with a bunch of no-names
?
When has someone like ganon had any results at a major since nairo upset light like 4 years ago
>expect to see the match or a clip of the win
>it's some gaylord "explaining" it
My god I fricking hate youtubers
Literally who are any of these players. This would be like saying Melee Luigi is good because EddyMexico can sweep a bunch of mexican regionals
>Literally who are any of these players
Lucky, Colorondo,Sir Dank, Ravenking,Loaf, Ned, Kilogramhours and that homosexual Justin.
>Go ahead and prove that
There are currently over 900 people currently streaming melee on twitch
There are currently 6 people streaming brawl
The largest melee tournament had over 2000 players, the largest brawl tournament had 400 (in japan, the largest western brawl tournament was 270)
Brawl popularity peaked in 2012, and the game is dead
Melee popularity peaked in 2016, and participation is still very strong, Big House 10 had over 1500 entrants, and the game has constant bootleg online play
Excuse me, 370, not 270
Damn Nintendo just lost on potentially 2,000 sales they gonna go bankrupt over this.
>900 streamers
My god Nintendo missing on so much money
You are fricking moronic. For context, Splatoon 3 currently has less than 800 people streaming it right now.
Oh no! it has less than 800 streamers on twitch what are nintendo gonna do?
>10.67 million copies
Streaming numbers are not sales moron
>10.67 million copies
On the fricking wii. It could have been double that, if it weren't shit. Even kids at school knew brawl was shit and melee was more fun.
Brawl players all moved on to Ultimate, you fricking rube. I knew you would try this sill horseshit.
>900 players
Smash Ultimate has 3.7M followers, according to twitch. Melee has 1.5.
>less people paid for Melee, therefore it's more successful, therefore I'm right for thinking it's the better game
Yeah, your logic is far more sound than that strawman you set up.
So where's that Bowser regional win?
Brawl died before Smash 4 came out you stupid gay
>Smash Ultimate has 3.7M followers, according to twitch. Melee has 1.5.
Okay, great, but we were comparing Melee to Brawl, not to Ultimate. I said Melee would outsell brawl if they were both released on the swtich, you (or he) said that it would not.
Show show me Melee outselling Brawl.
Okay, release them both for switch and then we'll see
I'd be down for it. I still have my original copies of both.
So Brawl. The modding scene is STILL going strong.
>brawl
you mean the game where people keep editing the gameplay to play more like melee at least, and have insane wacky changes and rulesets that the original game didn't have? haha yeah people love "brawl"
>to play more like melee
Brawl plus is more like Melee? Having more characters, costumes, stages, items, songs, modes, etc is """"""more like Melee""""""?
never heard of it. mustn't be that successful since not a lot of people downloaded it lol
Oh no, plenty of people downloaded Brawl plus. You haven't heard of it because you are a Meleegay, and don't know anything about games of any kind outside of Melee.
let's go ahead and compare the numbers between that and PM or P+
wait nevermind frick you, you lost your argument, i went to go look up a video of brawl plus and they said they use PM and P+ versions of existing characters you moronic donkey LOL
>you lost your argument
>by being right
melee is more successful than brawl, brawl only had the fun goofy story mode cutscenes, Mario and Sonic fighting in the same game, and Snake. after the new game came out, NO ONE was playing brawl and melee STILL has people playing it. the only reason you think of brawl is because you had to bring up sales numbers to compare to melee, the real topic of this conversation.
Which sold more copies?
Brawl
>my only metric is game sales
do you care about any other game's success? do you get mad that your favorite game isn't as successful as a Call of Duty game?
SO what is your measure of success?
>"I like it more, hurhur!"
Real convincing argument. Everyone else likes the newer games more.
>what is your measure of success
making a good game that a dedicated fanbase appreciates and continues to enjoy long after it's stopped being sold officially
>my only metric is game sales
Yes, the only metric that matters to a business. What is a business going to do with your moral victory?
>So where's that Bowser regional win?
You can b***h at me for not posting the bottom 1 character until you show ult ganon winning anything notable
How about Bowser in a top 8?
>moving goalposts
I accept your concession
I was just trying to be nice and help you out. You still never posted a bottom 5 winning anything in Melee.
>Roy isn't bottom 5
I just did thoughever
He certainly is not.
https://www.ssbwiki.com/List_of_SSBM_tier_lists_(NTSC)
Regardless he's still a bottom tier. I don't really care to argue about arbitrary statistics from a guy hailing from a game whose players are a bunch of whiny homosexuals who want to actually ban characters
>inb4 jigglypuff like 6 years ago
Puff ban was never enforced in any region at any level unlike steve and kazuya to a lesser extent
>MYYYYYY game doesn't ban characters, lmao
>UH THE TIME WE BANNED A CHARACTER DOESN'T COUNT!!!!!
This conversation is over. I accept your concession. In a game with a fraction the number of characters, you admit Melee has worse balance and greater tier differences than Ultimate, which also still hasn't actually banned anyone.
*shoots you in the head*
>>UH THE TIME WE BANNED A CHARACTER DOESN'T COUNT!!!!!
Melee has never banned any character in the entire recorded history of the game. The closest that has ever gotten to happening was an unpopular opinion held by leffen and his followers for like 2 weeks after he got butthurt over losing to hbox. If your unironically banning characters I don't care to hear your opinion about your game actually being balanced relative to others lmao
>your
Meleegays can't even speak English, holy shit.
Anon, Brawl+ IS Project M, you've been fricking baited and you fell for it. Brawl- is also massively popular as a mod package for Brawl, and is basically just making the game even more broken and ridiculous.
>seething over you're game being dogshit
>you've been baited into believing a brawl mod that makes the characters closer to melee versions and melee speed wasn't actually that because i wanted you to think that a popular mod wasn't a mod that wanted to play closer to melee because then i'd be wrong
>ignores Brawl minus
I accept your concession.
*shoots you in the head*
I have an invincible head hitbox, anon.
y-yeah but the projectile hitbox lingers for a few frames
i wouldn't talk to rotting corpses anon, you might catch something
Steve and Kazuya bans are healthy for the game. If Meleegays had any sense they'd follow suit and ban Fox, Marth, Puff.
Idiot, I hate homosexual spacies for feeling like God's gift to earth but the real chokes on mid and low tiers are sheik and peach who have the most ungodly matchups in the game, completely snuffing them out. Banning fox puff Marth is would just mean more falcos and sheiks, not a rise in mid-low tiers
20 people would buy Brawl
Melee at least has a sperg millennial fanbase, Brawl is just Ultimate but worse.
have to reduce the smell somehow
Give me one reason why Nintendo should pander to their non-target demographic
Ganker is incredibly out of touch if they think this means anything
Nintendo also openly declares that emulation is against US law which is just a straight up lie, are you going to "oh no no no" emulators too?
Emulation being illegal doesn't matter because there's no way to track it and not enough resources to punish everyone even if you could.
Tournaments being illegal matters because they are, by definition, public.
The thing is that neither are illegal, Nintendo just claims that they are even though a 5 second google search tells you the truth. Worst case this just means they won't sponsor majors like Genesis but most majors aren't sponsored anyways and don't need to be
>You can get your tournaments
>All you have to do is follow these rules
>BUT I DONT WANNA!!!
Then the smash baby proceeds to shit his diaper and then continue to not shower for a month.
Take a bath stinky
Based Nintendo shitting on melee gays trying to make a living of a 20 year old game.
200 is pretty high, imagine the smell.
>That entire last thread where the midwits tried to argue that owning a disc entitles you to use the IP on it to make profits in anyway you see fit.
lmao, thanks for the laugh guys.
>midwits think that you can sell songs you made just because you bought a guitar
kek, don't they know the guitar company owns those?
Go ahead and use that guitar to release an album under the name Taylor Swift using her likeness and see how it works out for you
But I didn't buy the guitar from Taylor Swift.
But she bought her guitar from the same company I did.
You're right, they should sue Taylor Swift.
Yeah Taylor Swift really needs to go to prison and have all the money she made given to the instrument companies, I don't know why they're letting her walk free. I know for a fricking fact she did not make her own instruments so anything made with those instruments don't belong to her.
More like
>Rent a guitar from The Christian Guitar Rental Store
>it has their recognisable company logo on it
>you are allowed to play it in concerts and earn money from them if you're playing christian rock
>you are NOT allowed to play it on a death metal tour and earn money by praising Satan
>you are allowed to play death metal on it in private though
>>you are NOT allowed to play it on a death metal tour and earn money by praising Satan
Yes you are (first amendment), but the store may no longer wish to promote or sponsor you. Which may not matter if they never did much for you anyways, like with Nintendo, to bring the analogy back around.
THANK YOU, I had this argument when the kendama thing was popular a decade ago. Just because you're good at the kendama doesn't mean you can profit from videos of tricks you made! The kendama company EANRED that profit, not you.
Come on. It's Nintendo fans. Any more than that in one location at a time and the smell would be a city wide health hazard. Good move, Nintendo. Very responsible.
>Nintendo haters when they find out they cant groom or diddle real flesh and blood children in tournaments anymore
>Will never have to see Smash at EVO again
THANK FRICKING GOD!
I mean that has been the case for like five? years now so yeah
that ship sailed when evo was sold to sony
unfortunately Smashers play fighting games now, Leffen even won this year
>Ganker pretends this applies exclusively to melee
>Ganker pretends this applies exclusively to smash bros
morons
Yeah, this also applies to the 1000-man tournaments for, uh...hmmm...competitive Super Mario RPG?
Maybe for the Thousand Year Door HD tournaments they're going to have?
Splatoon and Mario Kart, you disingenuous moron
Where are these large, community-run imaginary tournaments for Mario Kart and Splatoon?
And if you want to be a pro, why not play an esport with an actual circuit like what Leffen did with DBFZ and GGST.
good for their asses. nintenshart is doing this for their own good
Nintendo can't legally restrict what you can and can't do with your legally purchased copy of your video game. If they could, there would be no OoT Speedrun Youtube Videos, AGDQ, and twitch streams of their games
Stop falling for rage bait.
>Nintendo can't legally dock your pay for the rest of your life after you've already served a full jail sentence over a misdemeanor
>court orders you to pay damages
>"ummm but i have no money teehee"
>oh yeah okay nevermind you don't have to pay damages lol!
This is how Ganker thinks courts should work
It took only a single post to go from
>Nintendo can't do that
to
>Nintendo can and should do that
Contrarian homosexuals
Gary Bowser ran an explicitly for-piracy product that was advertised as such as sold for hard cash
Tournament organizers play video games legally and Nintendo doesn't want to sponsor them
>Gary Bowser ran an explicitly for-piracy product that was advertised as such as sold for hard cash
Which didn't affect Nintendo at all
>Tournament organizers play video games legally and Nintendo doesn't want to sponsor them
It's not just that Nintendo doesn't want to sponsor these tournaments, they legally refuse to allow them to be run without Nintendo authorization even if Nintendo isn't paying for them
>Which didn't affect Nintendo at all
Proven false beyond all reasonable doubt in a court of law
>It's not just that Nintendo doesn't want to sponsor these tournaments, they legally refuse to allow them to be run without Nintendo authorization even if Nintendo isn't paying for them
Incorrect, game streaming and by extension tournaments are considered a form of expression guaranteed by the first amendment. Nintendo claiming that this is illegal does not matter because it simply isn't. They can and likely will revoke their existing sponsorships from the two or three major national tournaments they sponsored in the past (which is unlikely to actually affect them).
>Proven false beyond all reasonable doubt in a court of law
No it wasn't. Piracy does not hurt sales
>Incorrect, game streaming and by extension tournaments are considered a form of expression guaranteed by the first amendment.
That's how it should be, but isn't. The DMCA allows for companies to just ignore freedom of expression and many of them frequently do, Nintendo being one of the worst offenders.
That's how it works for insurance companies.
Nintendo absolutely has arbitrarily taken down gameplay footage and streamers. They could take down AGDQ if they wanted. In fact, they've probably provided guidelines to GDQ that they have to follow in order to continue allowing Nintendo games at their events. In short, IP laws were a fricking mistake.
the baseline for video game footage is that you can't use it without permission but most companies don't care because it's free advertising. nintendo on the other hand had their moronic partnership program where you split like 50/50 because they don't understand how the internet works
>the baseline for video game footage is that you can't use it without permission
Wrong at least in the US. In Japan sure. You might think this because the DMCA has been illegally abused in the US by companies before to remove legal footage
i'm trying to find a reliable source for this now, it does seem like a grey area. wonder what really differentiates it from movies which are clearly copyrighted. what about cutscenes and graphics?
Pretty much. Most of these pathetic basement dwellers don't even realize that most of the things that we do in transformative work is SOLELY on the good graces of the IP holder.
Some IP holders are fine with that and others are not fine with that.
Both sides are correct.
This. Its baffling people are so ignorant and think otherwise.
so this entire thing is for the rights for the broadcasted video footage which every single other video game company on earth doesn't bother enforcing because it would be too much hassle and create too much community ill-will and backlash
and nintendo decided to do that for a 20+ year old game
basically yeah. nintendo is the most pettiest shit ever
Correct, Nintendo are autistic. To the point where they lied to the smash tournament community about being interested in supporting them specifically so that they could kill Project M, a mod for a wii game that was ten years old at the time.
Brawl was not ten years old in 2014, moron.
The partnership programming died years ago moron. You earn full money as long as you dont break their guidelines, like using modded stuff and shit. even then they typically dont care unless they think it will interfere with a major release.
that's why i added "had", but it shows how out of touch they are
Yes they can.
LOL
They have broadcasting rights. In fact, most games have their own broadcasting guidelines. If you want to get those videos out there, then you need to follow their rules.
That also doesn't just apply to video games. You're also limited in what you can do with sportsball footage.
No they can't. There's a reason they've never taken anyone to court over this shit and it's because they'd get fricked and set legal precedent against themselves. Instead they shit out these empty threats and hope spineless cowards comply.
Wrong at least in the US. In Japan sure. You might think this because the DMCA has been illegally abused in the US by companies before to remove legal footage
Yes I did just copy paste this
It doesn't matter. Any IP holder can strike anything that they don't want. Doesn't matter if its in the US or Japan. Everything changes as soon as money becomes involved.
Simply incorrect, no point in telling you again.
Continuing to throw a tantrum isn't going to help your case. The fact continues that we don't own anything that is within the game. Not the graphics, not the code, not the music, not the entirety of its service. All we have is permission to use the game within certain terms.
>Nintendo can't legally restrict what you can and can't do with your legally purchased copy of your video game.
They already have. This is a fact. There's no opinion or interpretation of law in this statement. I am telling you Nintendo has already, multiple times, restricted usage of their IP's through legal channels.
And its their right to restrict usage of their IP's through legal channels. It's also their right to turn a blind eye in other ways.
>it's a "Ganker reveals that they have no idea what they're talking about" episode AGAIN
holy shit these reruns are getting old. you would think that a video games board would know what tournament SPONSORSHIPS are and that that's what's being withheld
Are grassroots Splatoon tournaments a thing? I know Nintendo has a lot more involvement with that game's competitive scene
Yes. There are online tournaments almost daily and Splatoon shows up at a lot of the same majors as Smash
Smelly Melty :]
Honestly, smash homosexuals are the biggest collection of freaks and drama zoomers I've ever seen and not once did it come to them that they are at fault.
Nothing's gonna happen, Nintendo isn't going to get a SWAT team to raid every Smash tournament, it's all a bluff
DAY OF THE SOAP IS HERE
alright good progress, will add more links to each one to make the footnotes even longer lmao
I just don't understand how they have any say over third party tournaments.
Because it is their intellectual property and they know that their reputation is on the line because of their name associated with the game.
That and when you introduce money, you suddenly get a big issue because they're going to demand a cut of that money.
Which is why they flat out say dont do it for money and dont do stupid shit like have orgies and stuff.
but their IP isn't being infringed.
It is. They made a rule about profiting off of their IP and you have to follow it to use their IP. Otherwise you are infringing on it
If its being used in a way they dont like, its being infringed. That's the problem you people are having trouble understanding. We all have the freedom to use those games to a certain extent before it becomes a problem.
As soon as a problem arises and someone gets slapped, you people start complaining about the big bad company being "bad" while forgetting that they're the reason you're able to use the game and their IP in the first place.
1. Nintendo was not harmed by any of the things they come down on
2. They shouldn't have the legal right to do so, and you're a homosexual bootlicker for defending it
>Nintendo was not harmed by any of the things they come down on
Are you speaking on behalf of Nintendo? I can easily state a big one, Smash bros is synonymous now with pedos and immature morons. That absolutely harms their brand/image, even if you dont think it does because you're a pedo apologist.
>it hurts their image because morons exist
Nintendo already has an image of being for soi manchildren, are they going to ban everyone over the age of 20 from playing their games?
no, because (unfortunately) being a soi manchild isn't a crime, while being a pedo is.
>Are you speaking on behalf of Nintendo?
I am speaking on behalf of reality. Literally not a single video game company has ever been hurt due to fan art, an unsanctioned tournament, or even software privacy, and that includes Nintendo.
>That absolutely harms their brand/image,
No, it doesn't. Melee players being stinky weirdos was already a meme before Smash Ultimate came out and it still sold gangbusters.
>Melee players being stinky weirdos was already a meme
and that meme became validated in the past few years, with all the garbage in that community being exposed.
3 people being outed as sex pests and immediately de-personed is not a justification for Nintendo to shut down video game tournaments on the other side of the planet. They do not affect Nintendo at all.
>Smash bros is synonymous now with pedos and immature morons
LMAO you moron, you seriously think your stupid forced Ganker memes exist outside of here? What a fricking delusional idiot.
A pic just went viral on the normalgay sphere of a smash bros club getting cancelled due to hygiene. Everyone thinks of them as stinkers
>Bootlicker buzzword
Your concession has been accepted.
I would say gg, but this isn't a competitive tournament.
Not an argument, you stupid Black person. Yes, you are a bootlicker moron if you think that the existence of unjustified laws is an argument for their own existence.
Bro why are you continuing to concede? Are you that mad that you can't go around diddling kids in your grassroots tournaments?
If being called a bootlicker hurts your feelings that bad then just stop licking boots, moron.
Where do you bootlicker golems even come from
Nintendo: You can do whatever you want, except for the bad thing. If you do the bad thing, we're going to exercise our right to make you stop doing the bad thing.
(you): IM GOING TO DO THE BAD THING
Nintendo: Ok see you in court
(you): EEEEEEEEEEAIIIEIE HELP ME@*$^*(#@&^%
Anon: All you had to do was not do the bad thing
(you): SS-S-STOP DEFENDING THE BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY!! AIEEEEERYAUFGAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
What's the bad thing?
Majority of the time? Profiting off it without including the company that made it
>Profiting off of smash
Smash tournament series are regularly shutting down or being hosted at a loss. Sponsors are all dropping the game including top tier players like Leo, Tweek, IBDW, etc. Winning a super major doesn't even pay the cost of flying out and booking a hotel room for 3 nights. Who is profiting by hosting these events, exactly?
you should go to law school
It's their IP. If you want to make money off of their IP, you have to play by their rules. Of course, you can buy a license and bypass these rules if you really care
I don't see the issue. I don't see it killing smash, I see it killing greedy gays
Kek, basedtendo fans will eat shit and love it. They love getting cucked and fricked by their favourite big corpo of choice because it made their childhood a bit more bearable.
Literally lol
>inb4 S-S-SNOOOOOOOOOY
I own a pc/deck. Modern Nintendo sucks.
Hearty kek. I always found """serious""" smash players to be obnoxious gays. Funny to see them finally get the rope.
>Nintendo has their strongest years for single player games in a long time
>Destroy tournament scene of their most popular competitive multiplayer game in the same year
hmmmm
Reminder that this doesnt stop you from hosting large tournaments, it stops you from hosting large tournaments FOR MONEY. Stop being israelites and just play the game for fun
>WE WANT GRASSROOTS TOURNAMENTS
>Ok here's grassroots tournaments
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
it stops you from having a venue/admission fee so yes it absolutely stops large tournaments unless you think elon musk is about to start hosting shit. thank you based nintendo for finally ridding us of smashgays decisively
If you truly love the game, everyone can chip in and rent a venue.
Doesn't say that in the website. You can have admission fees as long as they're no more than $20
You shouldn't expect anyone whos crying to have actually read it, theyre just regurgitating stuff they've seen on twitter.
It's stupid to have a tournament that is meant to get people in the door and then price them out with a fricking $100 fee.
This. Just do your fundraising or whatever so you can do it.
But they dont want to play the game for fun despite them saying that they just want to play the game for fun.
They want money.
>Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
>31.77 million pcs.
Ban melee Black folk that want to profit but don't give Nintendo a cut
>Still at 31.77
Wow Nintendo is really missing out on that tournament scene kek
Doesn't this also frick over splatoon?
it does
Then what's with all the pearl clutchers focusing on smash?
they have a history of fricking smash over so people defaulted to that. Splatoon got caught in the crossfire this time which doesn't usually happen.
Just released for the US now too lol.
Some of what they're demanding really isn't legal in the US if someone actually challenges it.
>can't serve any beverages at the event
lol
wtf where's my coke zero
sell == serve or what
correct, you can't have food stands selling food at the event
i guess you could have food being given out freely but ain't no way that's happening
The groomers and pedos are shaking in their corner because now they cant roofie an entire tournament.
LMAO get fricked Smash Kiddies
that's illegal now, they won't be getting fricked anymore
Oh no, these greedy and corrupt tournament organizers (who also defend predators) are going to be a little less greedy and corrupt.
Not my problem.
Nintendo makes no money off of the Smash scene and that makes them fricking furious.
i've concluded that nintendo doesn't care about profits. so many things they've "handled" badly in the past that could have made them more money but they didn't. they like holding hype when things are sold out
Nintendo doesn't care about long term profits, they like quick panic induced cash injections, like all the limited edition collections they've released in the past or Amiibos. A giant +1.4 million USD addition on a quarterly report looks a lot better than spreading that money out over the course of a year or two.
especially when kids will just gobble it up and don't give a shit about items being sold out for <unknown reason> and just continue supporting them
I don't even like Nintendo but frick everyone who supports competitive gaming, it has ruined every online multiplayer game
>I'm bad at games that actually involved player vs player: the post
stick to single player story driven games then grandpa. you're literally mad because the average gamer it better and you can't keep up
It's to manage the odors
Meanwhile, Nintendo Switch reveal trailer, circa 2016. They first did nothing to make that happen, and when grassroots tournaments started getting close they've pulled off threadrelated. A shame really, Switch is the best possible console for tourneys, organizers don't have to provide any consoles themselves and everyone gets to carry over their in-game setups and practice on their own terms.
>buy product
>lose freedom of association
>lose freedom of speech/expression
why is this legal?
You're free to host as many free tournaments as you want bro
With mods and livestreamed?
it doesn't apply only to smash brothers
are you people illiterate?
theres only so much industrial ac units can do to purify the stench from smash players
the limit on the amount of them allowed into the build should have been obvious
did they add odor screening yet?
>https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63433/kw/tournament
America is no different.
Thank god.
We're saved from the smash kids.
200 is still plenty stinky.
>Only with the prior consent from Participants, can Organizers monetize posting of videos, still images, etc. related to Community Tournaments on personal accounts in line with the Nintendo Game Content Guidelines for Online Video & Information Sharing Platforms. The total amount of revenue a single Organizer earns in a 12-month period through these activities should be no more than the equivalent of $10,000 USD.
They didn't even ban making money, you can still make money by putting ads on the vods. Why are these b***hes crying?
>can only get $10k a year from posting videos
this is a fine salary for Brazil or some shit
Putting smash bros videos online is not a full time job, sorry
true, video games being hyper monetized by freaks that can't do anything else but play games and be moronic is a societal problem
Doing reaction content on youtube isnt either, but oddly enough, you'll see a lot of fricking e sports figures doing reaction content instead of playing their game.
They're crying because they want more money in an the esports industry where it has the infamous reputation for burning cash in a forest fire that was committed through arson.
It's NINTENDO'S GAME. NOT YOURS. THEY decide if you can host tournaments for it, okay?
And to those of you buttholes having unlicensed 200+ entrant tournaments for trivial amounts of money
MAY.
YOU.
GET.
CAUGHT.
I'm just not gonna abide by their restrictions. The frick are they gonna do, sue me? They just issue DMCAs and never act on them. They stop dead in their tracks any time polygon makes a mean article about them. Nintendo are a bunch of homosexual pansies.
You know very well they would sue you to make an example.
And all of us here will be laughing at you for being so fricking moronic.
>sue
oh cool, some piece of paper, whatever
money is just some piece of paper at the end of the day. just some ones and zeroes.
>You know very well they would sue you to make an example.
No they wouldn't. The example they could have made was Melee at evo 2013 and all it took was the journos who regularly suck their wieners to give them some bad press and they reversed their decision within hours. lmao
They would absolutely 100% sue a grassroots tournament to set an example and the blowback would not change shit.
The past 10+ years would say otherwise, Nintendo is usually pretty low key in their meddling
>Nintendo is usually pretty low key in their meddling
>Say "don't do this thing"
>do it anyway
>nothing happens
Again if they were willing to go to such great lengths to stop things like slippi and tournaments hosting it they'd have done more than issue one dmca to one tournament.
Yeah sure dude.
>Shut down tournament for using Slippi one time
>Gigantic e-celeb makes a huge fuss over it, hosts a gigantic tournament with an enormous price full over the exact thing they shut down this tournament for
>Radio silence from Nintendo
You can just ignore them. They don't do anything. You can literally wave your arms and egg them on and they won't do a goddamn thing.
God I wish Nintendo would have fricked him.
The seething would have been legendary.
>You can just ignore them. They don't do anything. You can literally wave your arms and egg them on and they won't do a goddamn thing.
Sure.
So long Gary Bowser
They had a legal basis to nuke this guy.
They have a legal basis to nuke tournaments using their games to make money
This applies to all tournaments, including non-profit ones.
Nintendo can't legally do anything to private tournaments as long as there isn't any money involved (ie charging entry fees, cash prizes, charity fundraising etc). You can still invite people over to your house and run brackets.
>a guy making money off people pirating games is remotely comparable to running a no-stream local tournament
do you think before posting?
>a guy making money off being the web admin of a mod tools site is not remotely comparable to a guy making money from running events using Nintendo's IP without their permission
do you think before posting?
you clearly don't after typing that sentence
Correction
>warn TOs multiple times to not advertise slippi as it promotes piracy
>TOs ignore
>>Shut down tournament for ignoring warnings
e-celeb makes a huge fuss over it, hosts a gigantic tournament hiding behind charity while keeping Slippi mentions on the downlow
silence from Nintendo
They really didn't care because they knew the tantrum tournament wasn't going to be a regular thing
Delusional
Yeah sure dude.
You're not going to be hosting any 200+ tournaments, get real
Did you forget that Nintendo owns a slave?
>The only time Nintendo has literally ever done more than issue takedown notices was on rom sites and people selling piracy modchips
Ok? They sent a DMCA to the big house like 2 years ago they probably could have just ignored. Ludwig hosted an even bigger tournament on slippi, the main point of contention, as a direct response to this with liek 50k prize pool. Guess what? Nintendo didn't do shit.
So this is apparently a nothingburger. Which begs the question, why are people crying so much? Just more smash dramaqueens playing victim?
it just means people will have to host huge tournaments with basically no preparation or notice until the week of the event if they want to avoid Nintendo taking forever to send an email to say "please stop"
>if they want to avoid Nintendo taking forever to send an email to say "please stop"
so literally nothing. I swear these smash homosexuals cry about everything they can to get attention.
why do people seethe so hard about people playing an old game competitively when it doesn't affect them at all
melee gays stink up other communities with their BO because they're afraid of being irrelevant after playing the same game for 20 years.
>making shit up
literally read the other reply to my post
Simply because they are annoying. They have bad hygiene and they refuse to modernize. No one likes dealing with them
then don't let them be weird obsessed hermits on their own
i have not once ever had to speak to a melee player before i just ignore them since i don't give a shit about their 20 year old game
At least you admit to being a shitposter.
i'm not shitposting
i just don't know why people care so much about melee players to the point they go out of their way to seethe over them
Ganker has been mindbroken by melee since time immemorial, it's the original home of upset brawl kiddos making "fox only final destination" memes and that spirit of buttblastedness has remained embedded in the board culture
Meleegays outright attack and insult anyone playing any other Smash game. They made an entire propaganda "documentary" about BRAWL BAD MELEE GOOD 64 IRRELEVANT. They are a blight on any community they touch.
>BRAWL BAD MELEE GOOD 64 IRRELEVANT.
Play brawl for 5 minutes or find me any noteworthy 64 tournament still operating and then tell me that that's not true but okay
Brawl is legitimately the best video game released in Smash's lineage.
Funny how the competitive scene being so shit is what everyone focuses on when the other qol stuff was so insanely good.
>qol stuff
Yeah dude love that tripping, intentionally variable input delay just to mess with the players, momentum canceling, Meta Knight. So much quality of life that they preserve for future smash games. Oh wait, they didn't. My favorite time of the year is watching brawl at SmashCon and seeing all of the 12 brawl players get super defensive and butt hurt in the twitch chat over their dead game even though nobody's even attacking it.
>yeah dude love the
>competitive aspect
>competitive aspect
>competitive aspect
>competitive aspect
Ah, so you can't read. Shame.
I wouldn't talk to braindead people anon, you might get infected.
UH OH STINKY
I've played both Melee and Brawl more than you have played every Smash combined, I can assure you. Both have their strengths, and neither is bad. 64 is more fun than anyone gives it credit for, and I prefer watching 64 tournaments over Melee since they aren't spammed as often and the entire cast shows up.
I never said 64 wasn't fun I just said it was irrelevant, which it is. Brawl sucks. I don't care what diamond in the rough you think there is behind all of the Meta Knight and ice climbers chain grabbing.
>muh comp
This is the shit Meleegays do. Comp is NOT why 99% of the playerbase likes Smash. Comp is irrelevant. Get it through your skull. This is why everyone else moved on. And Melee's balance is the second worst after Brawl, for what it's worth, which isn't much
>You need to be a compgay to know how to down throw someone and regrab them
kek
Guess same applies to wobbling, moron.
Wobbling is far too esoteric for any casual to know how to do and chaingrabbing in melee isn't particularly difficult either, it's just not what the actual good characters revolve around.
>Wobbling is far too esoteric for any casual to know
Same for chaingrabbing, but you brought it up.
>it's not really comparable to brawl where a character lives and dies by their ability to chaingrab half the roster.
Never had an issue with anyone chaingrabbing in 900+ hours of Brawl. Maybe it was just not playing with comp scumbags most of the time.
>Same for chaingrabbing, but you brought it up.
No, it's not. Realizing you can just grab someone after down throwing them doesn't require some eldritch knowledge of the game unlike a bug that was discovered like 7 years.
>Never had an issue with anyone chaingrabbing in 900+ hours of Brawl.
I have a hard time believing you've played that game for 900 hours at all, let alone with people who've never chaingrabbed considering it's so prominent in that game. But I'm glad you're having fun and don't want to take that away from you.
wobbling is a bug that actually has really specific setups and timing. it's not really comparable to brawl where a character lives and dies by their ability to chaingrab half the roster.
you are delusional or had a weird fringe event happen to you over 10 years ago
Brawl is bad Melee is good and 64 is irrelevant
Meleegays are insufferable c**ts that will actively antagonize non Melee smash games at their tournaments (see: the Big House tournament debacle)
>the big house debacle
i'm curious now
Big House is a Melee focused annual tourney that hosts Ultimate too. It routinely gives the Ult tourney shit time slot, shit equipment, disinterest and the organizers always leave to get food during the Ult awards.
This year all the big Ult players have had enough and they boycotted the tourney.
I wish nintendo would just ban these events, it's not the spirit of nintendo at all, not a family friendly environment
Smashies and tourneygays are hilarious.
>every other game company considers it an excellent boon if fans run tourneys for their game
>acts as free marketing, gets more people invested in the game, can establish relationships with TOs for deals, etc at very little cost to them
>Nintendo does the bold strategy for making people jump through multiple hoops and puts weird restrictions or else they'll get DCMA'd
>now has more control over tourneys but just developed much more resentment and bad PR
If tournaments were making big dick money, I'd understand wanting a piece of that but most tourneys don't really make a significant profit, often breaking even so i don't get what's nintendo's play here
Other games haven't had the stinky day problem or the pedophile problem
Yes they do. Smash tournaments are not any more scandal prone than any other.
False. Smash is notorious for hygiene issues and has had way more child predators than other games
It's literally just a meme, you dumb zoomer gay.
Bro good hygiene is explicitly stated in the rules for yugioh tournaments. Why do disingenuous homosexuals even try to pretend at having a conversation? Just post your wojak and move on.
>acts as free marketing
I think that's the problem. I don't think any company would like to have players that make their game look bad, especially if it's a game made for children.
>make their game look bad
But you're still allowing them to run tourneys. They just have to do follow more steps and a scandal can still happen anyway and you've claimed more control over it.
The risk of someone doing stupid shit doesn't just go away because you're threatening the TOs.
If you're afraid of people making your game look bad, then they should just stop fricking around and just ban tourneys then instead of this half ass guideline shit. It's clear they still want the compgays to keep playing, but they're acting incredibly autistic about it.
>but just developed much more resentment and bad PR
This literally does not affect them in the slighest. Casuals and normies do not care about shit like this.
They had a significant loss of face when they cancelled a huge Melee tournament for using Slippi in covid times, and then had it backfire when half the players in their 8-team Splatoon invitational with 40 dollars worth of Nintendo's funny currency as prize (lol) stood up, walked out, made their own tourney with blackjack and hookers and raised $10k in donation funds as a prize pool. Being asians, they did not take to that lightly, they brewed that revenge and struck with rules that make sure nothing of the sort can happen again.
This is the kind of free marketing smelee players give btw
>the free marketing/advertising line
LMAO
?
tournaments have definitely helped boost sales for fighting games and got more people playing
what are you on about
Missteps in the past have taught Nintendo it's best to have max control over their IPs and not let any little bit of it out of their grasp
Nintendo's brand that makes them billions is "shining family nostalgia", one fat adult playing a nintendo game on camera is too many
>>now has more control over tourneys but just developed much more resentment and bad PR
yeah I am sure the 10 million 8 year olds buying the new pokemon game care a lot about the melee tournament scene
I don't really like Nintendo's approach to these things.
BUT I hate Smashgays more than that, so I'm this case I say based Nintendo.
Based Nintendo. This is why I dislike games like Splatoon and Smash Bros and Mario Kart. Games should NOT be esports and should not be played online or competitively. They're for fun, not competition.
But competition is fun.
https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63433/~/community-tournament-guidelines#s1q15
They already threw a tantrum years ago and got nothing. Take a bath, stinky
What's the deal with smash and pedos anyway? Has there been any actual cases of pedos harassing kids at nintendo events?
Smash literally got exposed a few years ago. There were pedos and sexual harassment, people protecting and hiding those actions, corruption and embarrasing immaturity.
Remember a few years ago when they threw a colossal tantrum about not being included in EVO despite never showing any respect to other communities there? Acted like the FGC should be grateful that they graced us with their presence the entire time.
>hardwork
>of so many people
Playing a video game for a living isnt hard work. I hate "community" gays so much.
>tendies will accept this as if Nintendo actually has any grounds to stop them congregating and playing a fricking videogame
They don't. Streaming the game and hosting paid events, they do. I hope one of the TOs fricks around and finds out. I would get a huge erection if some smaspedo got rightfully sued into oblivion.
OI M8 YOU GOT A LOICANCE FOR THAT 201st PERSON????????
After all these years of vaguely being aware Nintendo is the only company that actively attempts to police what people do with their video games after purchase I still don't understand why people listen to them. They have no actual right to tell anyone what to do. Is it really just a matter of no one's willing to go to big boy court against them and actually get them to knock it off and pretending that they do?
You have to understand, this affects only a tiny fraction of Nintendo fans. A few thousand within tens of millions. There's not enough people who care enough to even complain on principle.
The picture in OP is hilarious because literally nothing stops you from doing that.
These are the same morons who thought Nintendo was gonna come steal your Wii if it had PM on it.
why the frick does anyone have to care about these guidelines
what the frick is Nintendo going to to? call the police?
What do you think happens when the organizers of a public event ignores a cease and desist order
nothing cause then the event happens and then the "person" that was running the event suddenly goes missing or dies, oops! sorry nintendie
oh no, a fricking letter in the mail?
Americans have guns, if those fricking slant eyes japs want to stop us from playing their video games in our FREE country they can fricking come over and do it by force
too bad the feds will work with anyone with enough money and they have guns that we're not allowed to have
it's so the smell doesn't spill out of the venue too much
I still don't get how any company can shut down tournaments out of nowehere?
They own the IP, they choose who makes money off of it
Nintendo's IP, Nintendo's rules. Don't like it? Make your own game.
smashgays have nobody to blame but themselves. all they had to do was not be creepy sex perverts
https://clips.twitch.tv/FunSpineyReindeerBCouch-kg8VY0ji-rG0DpzB
BASED MANGO
mango is a homosexual like every smash e-celeb
>melee players are wienerroaches
He makes a good point.
Imagine being Nintendo execs and having to spend almost a decade watching big tourneys like Eco putting Melee side-by-side with their new games and seeing the hot new product getting absolutely mogged in front of like 100k viewers by a 20 year old buggy piece of shit and knowing that the situation could easily be reversed were it not for the lead dev's crippling sense of autism KEK. I'd be mad too
I mean, melee almost always gets less viewers. Mainly because there's been no new blood in years.
there's been new blood popping up. the real issue is that the new blood is a bunch of no personality zoomers that are way up their ass about social justice issues.
Melee does have new blood. It's just mostly autistic zoomers with zero charisma who grew up on Slippi netplay.
>melee gets less viewers
KEK
>posts the one (1) Melee-centric tournament
All the good Ult players dropped out for LMMM next weekend.
Melee does generally get less stream viewers.
All this proves is that Ult's viewership is more casually interested and won't fly out to watch sweaty,hairy dudes clack their gamecube controllers in person.
>All this proves is that Ult's viewership is more casually interested and won't fly out to watch sweaty,hairy dudes clack their gamecube controllers in person.
I say this without the slightest bit of irony, top melee players are more attractive than top ultimate players. Ultimate is played by blacks and mexicans primarily.
>Ultimate is played by blacks and mexicans primarily.
That's ironic as frick considering Melee's "goat" and soul is some liberal beaner
Mango doesn't have anywhere near the beaner energy mkleo or spargo do.
because Mang0 is a chicano
MKLeo dropped off years ago
Spargo doesn't have Mang0's energy, I'll agree he's more like Red on Mt Silver meanwhile Mang0 is some washed sandbagger that hypes up his "nation" just to fumble the ball at the end
>he's more like Red on Mt Silver
49th
>I say this without the slightest bit of irony, top melee players are more attractive
What does that have anything to do with melee not having as many views as ultimate you closeted homosexual lmao
>sweaty,hairy dudes clack their gamecube controllers in person.
I was just pointing out the ESL goblins are all playing ult
Yeah but you look at the game to see it being played not to look at men who gives a shit kek, this tribalhomosexualry is worthless.
They're not trying hard enough to kill SSBM community, they could be even bigger shitheads. They should make SSBM a switch+ exclusive subscription game, and then make it so only SSBM tournaments played on switch hardware with active subscriptions are allowed.
Then they patch out all the things SSBM players like to make the experience consistent with SSBU and add a dash of emulation delay that wouldn't be present if dolphin was used to really rub it in.
>They should kill the sales of their best selling fighting game to spite the community around it
>their best selling fighting game
Ultimate?
Yeah, that's less viewers than Ultiamte gets.
>ultgays coping
LMAOOOOO
honestly if I ever need a lawyer I know I can call someone on Ganker and rest assured I'll win the case, based on what I'm reading here.
It's insane because other video game companies spend millions and millions to create esports communities for their games. Nintendo got one of the biggest completely for free and has done nothing but try to destroy it.
Beyond my anger, I'm genuinely just confused that they endlessly do this. Any game would kill to have half the level of participation smash has, and Nintendo only spits on it. Why? Everything else that sucks about this aside, just, why?
Considering the Melee community has had more controversy and arrests than any other game community in existence, it's not hard to understand why Nintendo distances itself from them.
>Considering the Melee community has had more controversy and arrests than any other game community in existence
I doubt it.
>Why? Everything else that sucks about this aside, just, why?
Anon, it's not rocket science if you actually kept up with the scene. They don't like the Smash community, they don't like being associated with the Smash community, they barely even like the idea of e-sports, but even less if the Smash community becomes the face of Nintendo e-sports.
They would gladly destroy any "free advertisement" Smash tourneys give them, they don't want it.
They sponsor Ultimate tournaments. They don't like the Melee community, specifically, because it's turned into competition for Ultimate and whatever the sequel for Ultimate ends up being. They don't like Melee because it is an anti-advertisment for these games. It's core gameplay mogs the frick out of every later installment and so tournaments showcasing this mogging serve as 3 hour video essays for why you shouldn't play Ultimate and play Melee instead.
That's just self-aggrandizing delusion by Meleegays.
It's a bold enough assumption to think Nintendo even separates them into anything more than the Smash community as a whole. Literally nobody except Smashgays themselves do this. It's all just Smash as far as everyone else is concerned.
>It's core gameplay mogs the frick out of every later installment
Holy delusion, batman.
It does though. Are you seriously thinking that Ultimate has better gameplay? No smash game let's you express yourself as well as melee does.
>implying it doesn't
Holy cope
>They sponsor Ultimate tournaments.
Nobody plays Nintendo sponsored Ultimate tournaments kek
>E-sports isn't profitable
>Most Smash purchasers are casuals who probably dont know competitive smash even exists, nor would they even care
>smash bros is ridden with controversies and stuff no one would want to associate with
>supposed leaders are greedy/immature and couldn't find a way to work with nintendo properly last year
Theres really no surprise Nintendo doesn't want anything to do with it.
>It's insane because other video game companies spend millions and millions to create esports communities for their games.
Yeah because they're fighting games that nobody plays and needs steady streams of large cash infusions and paid promotions on behalf of the developers.
Smash is different. Everyone knows what smash is. They don't have to spend millions of dollars on comphomosexualry. Hell, it's in their vested interests to stop people promoting Melee because that game is now intertwined with emulation and piracy. It's a potential gateway to emulating even more nintendo games.
I don't give a shit about Smash, but people who defend Nintendo when they do shit like this are legitimately just fricking weird. Some of you aren't just trolling or fricking around, you're actually happy seeing them do this shit and it's strange as shit.
Here's the thing anon, no one defends Nintendo because they're Nintendo or have some kind of attachment to them.
They "defend" them purely because they know what's fricking happening. No one is happy about it but no one actually gives a shit.
I mean, this shit is literally no different than Capcom's tournament rules and people are throwing massive shitfit about it.
Nintendo take on all this is normal considering the pedo shitfest that was the evo the last time smash was there.
why dont you stinky smashers go and play one of the dozen NotSmashes
some of them are even made by meleegays i think
then you dont have to deal with the company you send death threats to
They do
Nah.
woe is you
Not really lol
>complain about nintendo
>still play their games
kek
almost all of the smash clones trying to copy melee have basically 0 presentation skills. they care about the gameplay, but forget that the characters, music, sounds, stages, even the fricking camera, are all integral to this feeling.
they could have 1 to 1 melee gameplay, but it still feels like ass to play because none of the presentation is there. they just serve as little icons to give you the melee gameplay without the melee feel.
oh i thought melee players only played for gameplay
the moronic ones say that, yes.
>Buy used Chrysler Imperial
>Drive it in a derby
>Get sued to oblivion by Stellantis North America (formerly FCA US, LLC and formerly Chrysler Corporation) for using their product in a competition without express written permission from a CEO of Stellantis North America.
Nintendo couldn't sue Twin Galaxies for hosting the King of Kong tournament, most Nintendo could possibly do is ban them from online play on their services (in which case you'd be entitled to a refund for said services) and there's nothing legally stopping you from making your own network to play games online and modify your own games for your own play (that includes ROM hacking), Nintendr*nes are moronic, if Lets Plays fall under fair use then Lets Tournaments surely go far beyond legitimate transformation.
Lets plays don't fall under fair use. Videos of nintendo games infringe on Nintendo's property rights
Sure you did buddy.
Let me guess, you didn't know that Sonyg-ger was filtered too.
It used to be an instant ban alongside "Sonygay" and "Xbot". Wonder why the other two aren't even filtered anymore.
Drone was never an instant ban nor were xbot and sonygay ever filtered.
The only other one was Sonugger, with a y obviously, which is still filtered and was in fact filtered first with drone being filtered after because sonygays spammed it on account of being protected.
See, this is how I know you are the newbie. morons from other sites that read about Ganker being this and then coming to shit all over the place believe this. It wasn't true.
>"Smash 64 is irrelevant"
who are you quoting? 64 is definitely relevant
Reminder, the next time you see a Meleegay talking shit about Ultimate, humble them by reminding them that their best two players is either a gay pajeet or some israelite with a troony gf
nah i throw them a bone and say the 10th best smash player is still the best guilty gear player
i get 2 in 1 with that
>have to resort to praising that swedish frick that got scared of "death threats" this weekend after posting more fake news because of his personal vendetta
idc or know anything about him but he's still one of yours
warts and all
Or remind them that Skyjay stomped their talent with a meme character
IT'S OVER
Just remembered a couple more:
>Caused a Donkey Kong costume actor to require surgery for being denied breaks and ice packs in the hot suit.
>Absolute mountain of shovelware allowed on their platforms ever since the Wii, what happened with the Nintendo seal of approval?
>Historically terrible networking services and social media platforms (Miiverse) with Nintendo saying they haven’t even tried Xbox Live / PSN
>The Switch to this day not having built in voice chat, requiring a phone app to be used alongside the game.
>Lowering the price of the newly (5 months) released 3DS with ~32% and just giving the original buyers some ROMs.
>Mishandling old franchies like Earthbound (still no Mother 3 translation), F-Zero (one new game in 20 years), Pokémon (extreme lack of quality), and Metroid
>Lacking hardware power, especially evident in the Switch, where areas in BOTW & TOTK can go down to 20 FPS and below
>Club Nintendo being canceled, discarding any points that was left over at the end.
Make another Smash thread