The game bombarded me with side quests before the end. My completionist side was crying and in the end there was no worthwhile reward. So yeah, frick this game.
It needed to not have the side quests at all. They were universally terrible and absolutely murdered the pacing.
And "Final Fantasy" difficulty needed to be the default normal mode with that one mode that's only available in the challenges or whatever there as a hard mode that's the whole game and available the first time you play.
Games "difficulty" is an absolute joke and this after they make a huge deal about the auto mode accessories and shit. Like what the frick you can button mash through it anyways.
Was a pretty decent game otherwise. Production values were out of this world. Especially for a Japanese game. But those two things really drag it down.
Yeah after I got Odin everything became a joke. Not that the game was hard before but Odin just destroys everything super easily. That Zangetsugen move thing is OP
>It needed to not have the side quests at all. They were universally terrible and absolutely murdered the pacing.
I wish they committed to being a full action game without the filler, but JRPG gays would have caused a shit storm if that happened.
Even if the side quests are the most bland uninspired errands imaginable, they would still rather have them instead of a better paced main story.
I am a jrpg gay and I'm saying all the "rpg" stuff in the game needed to go. None of it fit particularly well and you can tell they agreed because they neutered it all to the point of complete pointlessness. The gear upgrade system was completely ridiculous. Why even have stats? Or levels for that matter? It was all just there because it needed to be? Gear didn't even show up on your character. Should have just had weapons only since those you got cool visuals based on the eikon you just killed at least. I don't like this shitty triple a trend of games that have no business having RPG elements having them. If you want to introduce skills over time that's fine but I don't need the goofy skill "tree" offering the illusion of choice here. All new games have them and they are just ability gates.
The fact that a seething abbo posting threads about it every single day makes me not forget it. FFXVI will be the game that will be remembered as the game that broke Ganker for months.
I find it interesting we had cities such as Kanver modelled but, never interacted with . Hell it was a waste even in the sense of everyone "edgy" people die shit. It's not like we went to Kanver met some people did some errands and then later the place got sacked.
Nope it just goes OH NOE NOT THE POOR INNOCENT.KANVER, yeah well sorry I don't give a shit
Waloed was also disappointing they made it out to be this really fricked up place and the only thing you ever got to see was that isolated cultist village...
It really is impossible to discuss this game without the whole Barry, Yoshi'spiss etc stuff.
I have a feeling that at best only 50-100 people on all of Ganker played this game.
You know what? Final Fantasy has been mid for so long that this statement is probably true. FFX was 2001 anyway so if you didn't like XII this would indeed be the best FF in 2 decades.
>Final Fantasy 16’s narrative is both its greatest strength and most damning feature, a cacophony of emotionally charged epics, meandering sequences of forgettable characters, enchantingly enticing mystery, and charmless companions pieced together like patchwork by a poorly paced and patience-testing framework. That’s not to say that Final Fantasy 16 flitters equally between the dull and the exciting. Rather, its extremely infrequent highs are glorious, diluted by the endlessly meaningless and mind-numbingly one-note drivel that purports itself to be philosophical and political waxings.
So accurate.
The only pseud thing here is FF16 trying to sound deep with its shallow attempts at PolSci.
>Perhaps what is hurting the narrative more than its failed attempts at emotional manipulation is its lack of compelling characters. Final Fantasy 16 does not have a traditional party made up of a diverse cast of characters. Instead, it relies solely on its dour, plodding protagonist whose vulnerability, his only redeeming quality, is removed almost instantaneously. There are side characters who join Clive on his adventures, but they lack any real personality, all relentlessly devolving into meandering philosophical waxings as they stand around a poorly lit table with stern looks plastered across their copy-pasted faces. >Gone are the quieter moments of reflection amongst a group of people that genuinely care for one another present in almost every other Final Fantasy game. You will rarely find instances of Clive and his companions pausing to bond with one another, smiles spread wide across their faces. Instead, practically every conversation between Clive and the rare companion that floats in and out of his life as quickly as you can recall their indistinct name is bogged down in the political and sociological themes that the game is evidently incredibly proud of.
The only pseud thing here is FF16 trying to sound deep with its shallow attempts at PolSci.
>Perhaps what is hurting the narrative more than its failed attempts at emotional manipulation is its lack of compelling characters. Final Fantasy 16 does not have a traditional party made up of a diverse cast of characters. Instead, it relies solely on its dour, plodding protagonist whose vulnerability, his only redeeming quality, is removed almost instantaneously. There are side characters who join Clive on his adventures, but they lack any real personality, all relentlessly devolving into meandering philosophical waxings as they stand around a poorly lit table with stern looks plastered across their copy-pasted faces. >Gone are the quieter moments of reflection amongst a group of people that genuinely care for one another present in almost every other Final Fantasy game. You will rarely find instances of Clive and his companions pausing to bond with one another, smiles spread wide across their faces. Instead, practically every conversation between Clive and the rare companion that floats in and out of his life as quickly as you can recall their indistinct name is bogged down in the political and sociological themes that the game is evidently incredibly proud of.
I feel the entire world was underutilized. Just grey muddy villages amongst dull forests and fields. The desert areas at least popped a bit, but since 95% of the items in the game were useless exploration was a waste of time. It honestly felt like one person directed the main scenario and everything else was shoved off to some interns, it's the most peaks and valleys experience I've had in a long time
He should have been the main villain. How about instead of another evil god that wants to destroy the world he'd just want to keep the status quo going because he genuinely thinks the Mothercrystals keep the world in order.
Clive destroying the crystals purely to stop magic from oppressing the common people(instead of "we have to destroy them because...they're sucking up all da magic!") would have made for a more interesting conflict.
In every single gameplay video I saw, all of the trash monsters in overworld were HP sponges. It's not a personal problem, it's a problem with the game.
It’s been sitting unfinished in my library for a few weeks now, the side missions just kill all momentum the game has… The Eikon fights are cool, but those are few and far between. I’ll finish it eventually but will probably start skipping side quests... Meanwhile, Ive moved onto Remnant 2 and waiting for Armored Core 6
Not to crap on anyone directly, but this is BY FAR the most boring visuals I've seen in a Final Fantasy game.
Everything is bland, expressionless, and devoid of color.
It's like they thought some cool smoke and fire effects could make up for flaccid character designs, amateur acting, and creatively bankrupt environments.
At least, if there IS ambition behind it, it's not recognizable as any person's ambition. It's seemms powered strictly by a committee's belief that it ought to exist.
good Ganker comment, someone actually gets it for once. its the suits. they're like 6 years behind, hilariously. of course they are, fricking old fricks
In 10 years people will be lamenting that more final fantasy games aren't like this, especially once we return to regularly scheduled anime grunting and women acting moronicly cutesy with VIIR
Just finished the game myself; the ending almost made up for the parts of the game that dragged. Did Clive survive and write the book using Joshua's name as an alias?
It's honestly unclear. But just based on it being weird for anyone else but Clive to use his brothers name as a writers pen name it was probably him. see you tomorrow
Its very much possible one or even both of them survived. If you do the sidequests Clive gets a pen and is told he should make a book of his tale, mind you the guy took on Cids name so he could have used Joshuas name for the book. Joshua on the other hand escaped death many times and his chest wound was healed.
>amazing boss fights and spectacle >mediocre or bad everything else
Biggest disappointment of the year. It's better than FF15 but that's like saying a puddle of piss is better than a pile of shit
I watched the final boss fight, all like 90 minutes of it, with my wife and we were laughing at it the whole time.
JOSHYOOAH!!! lmao
and i was saying, imagine a bunch of 55 year old chinks wearing torn up skinny jeans (still clinging to 2009 usa fashion) with anime-styled gelled hair, standing around watching the final version of that in a room, and them being like "this is the coolest thing i've ever seen"
hahahahah, japs.
>amazing boss fights and spectacle
hahahahhahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
NO, it's fricking LAME
fricking garbage ass transformers movie design "just put crenellations on every part of the monster" hurp durp
I watched the final boss fight, all like 90 minutes of it, with my wife and we were laughing at it the whole time.
JOSHYOOAH!!! lmao
and i was saying, imagine a bunch of 55 year old chinks wearing torn up skinny jeans (still clinging to 2009 usa fashion) with anime-styled gelled hair, standing around watching the final version of that in a room, and them being like "this is the coolest thing i've ever seen"
The game bombarded me with side quests before the end. My completionist side was crying and in the end there was no worthwhile reward. So yeah, frick this game.
It needed to not have the side quests at all. They were universally terrible and absolutely murdered the pacing.
And "Final Fantasy" difficulty needed to be the default normal mode with that one mode that's only available in the challenges or whatever there as a hard mode that's the whole game and available the first time you play.
Games "difficulty" is an absolute joke and this after they make a huge deal about the auto mode accessories and shit. Like what the frick you can button mash through it anyways.
Was a pretty decent game otherwise. Production values were out of this world. Especially for a Japanese game. But those two things really drag it down.
Yeah after I got Odin everything became a joke. Not that the game was hard before but Odin just destroys everything super easily. That Zangetsugen move thing is OP
>It needed to not have the side quests at all. They were universally terrible and absolutely murdered the pacing.
I wish they committed to being a full action game without the filler, but JRPG gays would have caused a shit storm if that happened.
Even if the side quests are the most bland uninspired errands imaginable, they would still rather have them instead of a better paced main story.
I am a jrpg gay and I'm saying all the "rpg" stuff in the game needed to go. None of it fit particularly well and you can tell they agreed because they neutered it all to the point of complete pointlessness. The gear upgrade system was completely ridiculous. Why even have stats? Or levels for that matter? It was all just there because it needed to be? Gear didn't even show up on your character. Should have just had weapons only since those you got cool visuals based on the eikon you just killed at least. I don't like this shitty triple a trend of games that have no business having RPG elements having them. If you want to introduce skills over time that's fine but I don't need the goofy skill "tree" offering the illusion of choice here. All new games have them and they are just ability gates.
>kills your series
I will never be a memory bazzkek
The fact that a seething abbo posting threads about it every single day makes me not forget it. FFXVI will be the game that will be remembered as the game that broke Ganker for months.
Thank you for the free advertisement.
What was 15's excuse?
PS5 is fricking garbage
Is it any good? Which mainline FF is it most like?
FFIV/V/XIV
It is a great game but it's too easy and PS5 only.
Barry thread
Round 2
Fight
I find it interesting we had cities such as Kanver modelled but, never interacted with . Hell it was a waste even in the sense of everyone "edgy" people die shit. It's not like we went to Kanver met some people did some errands and then later the place got sacked.
Nope it just goes OH NOE NOT THE POOR INNOCENT.KANVER, yeah well sorry I don't give a shit
Waloed was also disappointing they made it out to be this really fricked up place and the only thing you ever got to see was that isolated cultist village...
Watch as bazztroon will make another spamsprint at the end to get the last word, believing the voices in xirs head that xir will "win" that way.
Another turd straight from the ass of YoshitPee. Can't believe he still has a job.
It really is impossible to discuss this game without the whole Barry, Yoshi'spiss etc stuff.
I have a feeling that at best only 50-100 people on all of Ganker played this game.
>forgotten
>50 threads a day
thank you bazzy, and his schizo goons for advertising the game
I like it
The best FF in decades, and my favorite game of recent years.
this tbh i feel like the hate comes from Black folk that were triggered their FF games with Lighting were forgotten and quite bad.
You know what? Final Fantasy has been mid for so long that this statement is probably true. FFX was 2001 anyway so if you didn't like XII this would indeed be the best FF in 2 decades.
I'm glad they extinguished the name so this shell of a formerly great company, which hasn't made a relevant product in over 20 years, can finally die.
Squeenix will end up selling to Sony at a discount
Woke generic fake edgy ESG slop with a meta ending, because Yoshi-b***h thinks it makes him smart, lul.
you should use more buzzwords in your next post
>leave the heckin' corporation alone
Seethe some more.
16 is the most dogshit unfinished ff ever
holy shit what a trainwreck
tbh its a really unremarkable game with a handful of great moments
its not as bad as 12, 13 or 15 but it sure as frick isn't as good as 10 or any games that came before
It's better than 8.
its worse than xv in every aspect
Can I get a schizo to English translation?
kys
>he
you have never been right mageknight14
and you constantly get btfo and banned in /vg/ while everyone is shitting on ff16
what the frick is these pictures and how do they relate to anything that was said, holy shit take your meds
>Final Fantasy 16’s narrative is both its greatest strength and most damning feature, a cacophony of emotionally charged epics, meandering sequences of forgettable characters, enchantingly enticing mystery, and charmless companions pieced together like patchwork by a poorly paced and patience-testing framework. That’s not to say that Final Fantasy 16 flitters equally between the dull and the exciting. Rather, its extremely infrequent highs are glorious, diluted by the endlessly meaningless and mind-numbingly one-note drivel that purports itself to be philosophical and political waxings.
So accurate.
Whoever you're quoting sounds like a massive pseud.
The only pseud thing here is FF16 trying to sound deep with its shallow attempts at PolSci.
>Perhaps what is hurting the narrative more than its failed attempts at emotional manipulation is its lack of compelling characters. Final Fantasy 16 does not have a traditional party made up of a diverse cast of characters. Instead, it relies solely on its dour, plodding protagonist whose vulnerability, his only redeeming quality, is removed almost instantaneously. There are side characters who join Clive on his adventures, but they lack any real personality, all relentlessly devolving into meandering philosophical waxings as they stand around a poorly lit table with stern looks plastered across their copy-pasted faces.
>Gone are the quieter moments of reflection amongst a group of people that genuinely care for one another present in almost every other Final Fantasy game. You will rarely find instances of Clive and his companions pausing to bond with one another, smiles spread wide across their faces. Instead, practically every conversation between Clive and the rare companion that floats in and out of his life as quickly as you can recall their indistinct name is bogged down in the political and sociological themes that the game is evidently incredibly proud of.
>more wordswordswords
Half the paragraph is fricking adjectives who writes like this?
the absolute state of (You)
Not even the same article, inbred cultist.
Cool character but, him and his entire kingdom was massive underutilized.
Was this game another case of Covid fricking it in the ass?
I feel the entire world was underutilized. Just grey muddy villages amongst dull forests and fields. The desert areas at least popped a bit, but since 95% of the items in the game were useless exploration was a waste of time. It honestly felt like one person directed the main scenario and everything else was shoved off to some interns, it's the most peaks and valleys experience I've had in a long time
He should have been the main villain. How about instead of another evil god that wants to destroy the world he'd just want to keep the status quo going because he genuinely thinks the Mothercrystals keep the world in order.
Clive destroying the crystals purely to stop magic from oppressing the common people(instead of "we have to destroy them because...they're sucking up all da magic!") would have made for a more interesting conflict.
I liked it a ton as package. Sometimes it could drag but it pulled through at the end very well I think.
He is right dude, you make the same thread every hour, meanwhile other threads get banned for muh /vg/
Would love to play it but I am not going to buy a PS5 just for 1 game
What's with 2023 games going forgotten 1 month after release?
How do you decide if a game is "forgotten"?
Besides the number of daily Ganker threads.
when the genshin impact underwater swimming mechanic embarrasses totk. that's when it was officially forgotten.
imagine being one-upped by a yearly game revision when you took 6-7 for your DLC.
>genshin impact
Oh yeah. Some people probably still play that.
TikTok doesn't get any threads beside NTR porn threads
I wanted to buy the game, but then I saw that every enemy is a HP sponge that takes 30+ seconds to kill and I lost interest.
Eikon abilities one shot most normal enemies
if it takes you more than 30 seconds to kill everything except bosses, you should find another hobby
In every single gameplay video I saw, all of the trash monsters in overworld were HP sponges. It's not a personal problem, it's a problem with the game.
Literal skill issue
not only forgotten, they actually managed to kill the name Final Fantasy. it can never come back to where it was
Anon, the series has been dead since X.
in spirit yes in sales no
now it's embarrassingly hyper-dead in sales
It’s been sitting unfinished in my library for a few weeks now, the side missions just kill all momentum the game has… The Eikon fights are cool, but those are few and far between. I’ll finish it eventually but will probably start skipping side quests... Meanwhile, Ive moved onto Remnant 2 and waiting for Armored Core 6
I keep forgetting its already released on consoles
For me the actual release will be the steam launch somewhere in the year 3020
Not to crap on anyone directly, but this is BY FAR the most boring visuals I've seen in a Final Fantasy game.
Everything is bland, expressionless, and devoid of color.
It's like they thought some cool smoke and fire effects could make up for flaccid character designs, amateur acting, and creatively bankrupt environments.
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The least ambitious Final Fantasy...
At least, if there IS ambition behind it, it's not recognizable as any person's ambition. It's seemms powered strictly by a committee's belief that it ought to exist.
good Ganker comment, someone actually gets it for once. its the suits. they're like 6 years behind, hilariously. of course they are, fricking old fricks
Keep saying it, maybe it'll come true.
In 10 years people will be lamenting that more final fantasy games aren't like this, especially once we return to regularly scheduled anime grunting and women acting moronicly cutesy with VIIR
in 10 years people won't care about the name final fantasy at all.
genshin impact 2 will be out, honkai star rail 2, whatever their next game is, whatever other companies are doing, etc etc
square's dead
Just finished the game myself; the ending almost made up for the parts of the game that dragged. Did Clive survive and write the book using Joshua's name as an alias?
Nobody knows and nobody cares, including the game. Just headcanon your preferred ending yourself.
It's honestly unclear. But just based on it being weird for anyone else but Clive to use his brothers name as a writers pen name it was probably him.
see you tomorrow
Its very much possible one or even both of them survived. If you do the sidequests Clive gets a pen and is told he should make a book of his tale, mind you the guy took on Cids name so he could have used Joshuas name for the book. Joshua on the other hand escaped death many times and his chest wound was healed.
TLDR: we dont know if they died, I doubt they did
It's a single player game. Once you finished it there is no reason to keep playing.
>that spoiler text
>amazing boss fights and spectacle
>mediocre or bad everything else
Biggest disappointment of the year. It's better than FF15 but that's like saying a puddle of piss is better than a pile of shit
>amazing boss fights and spectacle
hahahahhahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
NO, it's fricking LAME
fricking garbage ass transformers movie design "just put crenellations on every part of the monster" hurp durp
I watched the final boss fight, all like 90 minutes of it, with my wife and we were laughing at it the whole time.
JOSHYOOAH!!! lmao
and i was saying, imagine a bunch of 55 year old chinks wearing torn up skinny jeans (still clinging to 2009 usa fashion) with anime-styled gelled hair, standing around watching the final version of that in a room, and them being like "this is the coolest thing i've ever seen"
hahahahah, japs.