"2023 is the best year for gaming ever!"
How moronic does someone have to be to say this? 2003 alone had more amazing games release.
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"2023 is the best year for gaming ever!". How retarded does someone have to be to say this?
naa 19993 was better
Basically every single year in gaming up to 2014 was packed with absolute bangers. Since then gaming has slowed down and degrader in terms of quality but everyone pretends otherwise
I think it dropped after 2006 but 9th gen makes 8th look good in hindsight
There hasn't been barely any games released in the 9th gen. It can hardly be considered a gen.
I got mixed up. Meant 7th and eighth gen.
7th mogged 8. Are you out of your fricking mind?
What in 8 even holds against 7?
Pretty much every year after 2016 mogs 7th gen
You're out of your mind.
Nah you just have shit taste and think nostalgia for the worst era in modern gaming would make up for it
I agree with this statement. AA Japanese games died during this time when PS2/Gamecube had good, not great, games coming out almost every single month. It was also the beginning of the Cod/Madden dudebro era which opening up gaming to normies before eventually women infested and destroyed everything.
3DS was sort of a lightweight renaissance for AA japanese games with caveat that they were trapped on a handheld, hasn’t really carried over to switch & even when it does happen you have to sift through so much trash to find them.
AA Japanese gaming has deevolved into predatory mobile gachas when it became more popular to play games on a phone than a dedicated handheld device. The Switch is unironically a device for 30+ manchildren playing Mario and Zelda.
>AA Japanese gaming has devolved into predatory mobile gachas when it became more popular to play games on a phone than a dedicated handheld device
Its a reminder that it's not just the west that has had a massive downgrade in game quality.
>The Switch is unironically a device for 30+ manchildren playing Mario and Zelda.
I got it for all the ps4 jrpgs & dungeon crawlers that the japs refused to release on pc, thankfully they're now consistently releasing the new games on pc so I won't need to get nintendo's next console.
There was actually a few good games this year so their pushing the narrative were back in a golden age lol
Lmfao. It's toxic positivity. People are obsessed with constantly consuming new product and they hate anything that threatens that excitement
I will never take anyone seriously on Ganker who says shit like "toxic positivity" when this site's incessant need to hate everything is its defining feature and has been for 20 years. You haven't been here for 20 years have you?
Toxic positivity exists on every other social media site. You see the opposite here because people are allowed to be negative without being censored or bombarded with morons.
No it doesn't most social media sites are grossly negative in every way and you're posting on a site that is negative to a fault and always has been. Don't you get tired of being a jaded homosexual who hates everything and also being 9/10 posters here?
Grossly negative? Have you visited Reddit where you get attacked and banned for criticizing any game that's not Activision or EA? Or what about Twitter where you're brigaded if you say gaming isn't as fun anymore? Sounds like you just hate criticism. I love good games just as much as the next guy. Hell as bad as gaming has been in the last ten years I have enjoyed
>Resident Evil 7
>Breath of the Wild
>Kirby Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot
>Rhythm heaven megamix
>Tons of 3ds games
>Monster Hunter world
I just have something called standards.
>Or what about Twitter where you're brigaded if you say gaming isn't as fun anymore?
There are whole threads on Twitter dedicated to how gaming sucks nowadays. It's an extremely common opinion to the point where there's a market for YouTube essays entirely about how gaming sucks and isn't good anymore
Post one. I looked up "gaming is dead" and here's what I found.
I've been gaming since the NES and 100% agree with you. 2014 is when I noticed it too. It was a weird immediately drop in the quality AND quantity of games coming out every year. Every year prior to 2014 I played at least 20-30 games a year but 2014 onwards it was more like 3 or 4 a year as there was so few games coming out that looked worth playing. Everything became shit as soon at the PS4/Xbox1 gen started in 2014.
Probably because of 2 reasons
>Games became more demanding to make due to the increase in graphics
>Multiplayer games became more focused on monetization and less focused on fun
As someone who's been playing games for so long what was your favorite year?
1998:
Ocarina of Time, Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Tekken 3, Tomb Raider 3 and Pokemon Red.
Must've been amazing transitioning to 3D and then immediately getting so many games.
Yup was pretty crazy going from the Sega Megadrive to the PS1 and N64. I remember getting the N64 for Christmas with Mario 64 and Starfox 64 and being blown away with both.
It was basically a quantum leap in terms of progress. Makes the last two gens look glacial in comparison
exactly. The 7th gen was the last good gen. Once so many studios went bankrupt and the industry shifted to AAA tiltes and games as service everything went to shit.
People have got to be disengenous dipshits to say the 7th gen was worse than any gen we're currently stuck with
>People have got to be disengenous dipshits to say the 7th gen was *better
Fixed
The industry started to decline near the end of 7th gen and still is (the live service bubble popping and the AAA bubble being precarious might be good signs though) but people who doompost about there being no good games anymore aren't right either. Even the worst years have had at least a handful of really great games. 2023 was more notable for how many BIG releases there were that weren't annualized IPs, mostly because of COVID delays.
Is that shovel knight? If you think that piece of shit is good your opinion is invalid.
Specifically King of Cards which is far and away the best campaign in the game (makes sense given it's the last) but yes. But even if you don't count it there's other great games from 2019.
Example?
If I didn't care for the base game and couldn't even get through plague knight, is this still worth giving a try?
I would maybe try it if you like Wario Land since King Knight's movement is definitely inspired by it (shoulder barge, but when he hits an enemy he goes into a Mario World-esque spin-jump) and he has the best level design of the bunch. I think Plague has the best overall movement but he's constrained by Shovel's levels. There's also secret exits and cards you can find for an in-game CCG that's optional but fun.
Ace Combat 7
Baba Is You
The Ninja Warriors Once Again
DMC5
RE2make
Samurai Shodown
Sekiro
Luigi's Mansion 3
CTR Nitro Fueled
They weren't for me but a lot of people liked Astral Chain, Disco Elysium, FE3H, & Death Stranding
Remakes and Luigi's Mansion 3? LUIGI'S MANSION 3! HAHHAHAHHA
>but people who doompost about there being no good games anymore aren't right either.
Entire genres that used to be common & quality up to the 7th gen are either dead or are having their corpses raped, if you have to spend most of your time using emulation or backwards compatibility to have a good time gaming then that statement is true.
And which genre/games are those, exactly?
I suppose my favorite genres aren't ones fricked up so bad, I do feel for anybody into RTS for example. I wouldn't say the industry is anywhere close to as good as it once was, I'm just saying that there's some over-exaggerated statements about there being nothing good released since X year when I'd say there's at least a dozen games worth playing released every year, though I'd say a 7/10 that does at least one interesting thing is worth playing if it's in your genre of preference.
>I'd say there's at least a dozen games worth playing released every year
Since 2015 with few exceptions I can count the games released each year that I liked on one hand & maybe a few more that I'm just gritting my teeth to play because it's something new & not utterly abhorrent. I t's gotten worse with time unfortunately, this year was easily the worst year I've ever seen, there was like 3 games that I would say are solid without any sort of reservations but only 2 I personally gave a shit about.
Here's to the AAA bubble burst, specifically fricking with EA and Activision.
>up to 2014
late 7th Gen sucked what the frick are you talking about
I'd change my stance to at least 2012.
2012 was basically the bottom of mariana trench compared to years after. Fricking ME3 won goty that year lol
After you get raped by a million guys the first guy doesn't feel so bad in retrospect.
2008 to 2015 was terrible, you stupid fricking zoomer.
True 19993 will probably be a banger year for video reality gaming frfr
>playstation not only still does not have games, it actively wipes games out of existence
What iteration of DOOM will we be on by then?
Everyone can now play the original doom by simply thinking about it, future humans have become so smart they can just do all the math required to run doom in their mind easily
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Can confirm, it was no 19987 but it was pretty lit.
>t. time traveler
IT IS THE 20TH MILLENIUM AND GAMING IS STILL ASS
WAY better. 2000’s was a shit time for gaming. 2 good games on this list and one is X-2. Not exactly stellar.
>2000’s was a shit time for gaming.
This is even more deranged than saying the early 10's were a good time for gaming
You will NEVER know the joys of 96-98 3D paradigm changing kino. Just shitty soulless Xbox games.
Honestly though, 2015-18 was better in every way too. Same with 2022-2023 and 91-94. You got robbed son.
I was in junior high in 98 and OG Xbox library was not soulless at all. Even the 360 had a strong start until Xbox shat the bed at (surprise) the end of 7th gen and has been a joke ever since the xbone.
>Xbox shat the bed at (surprise) the end of 7th gen
I'd say around the halfway point as far as exclusives go.
If 2010 is the halfway point then yeah. Most of the 10s were dire for consoles.
2012 thru 2015 is the absolute dark ages as far as im concerned
2000’s to me but less controversially 2019-2021 Best game in 3 years was Ghost of Tsushima. Not a bad game but…
I’d much rather take Skyrim and Mass Effect 3.
>Mass Effect 3.
Bioware during that era was patient zero for basically all of the worst business trends of 7th gen. Day 1 DLC, on-disk DLC, having to pay for multiplayer separate if you bought it second hand etc.
Touché
I just miss games being made. These 6 year development cycles for incomplete mid games is inexcusable.
>6 year development cycles for incomplete mid games is inexcusable.
That literally started in the early 2010s lol
I would say it started even earlier than that, but its amazing how many franchises from 6th Gen shit the bed during that period.
We are the same age. I didn’t have a Xbox and didn’t game much in Uni so I definitely have a bias. When I look at the lists though nothing looks good to me. The best games of the decade were probably WoW and Halo 2. I just don’t think those stand up to GTA5, Skyrim or OoT, FF7, or Elden Ring. But again, I am biased.
Xbox had the entire GTA trilogy +. Morrowind which was genuinely impressive for a console back then. I'm not going to pretend it was the best console ever but calling it soulless is crazy considering what Xbox became during the 2010s
If you think final fantasy 7 remake mogs aby game from the 2000s you need to keep. Yourself. Safe.
ape escape 2 sucks
Rape escape is my childhood. Shut up
>rape escape
so are you running or chasing?
this is a very important question, asking for a friend
>professor, what are you doing to those monkeys?
Specter was the good guy all along
Nah ape escape 2 is the worst in the series, 3 was much more fun and memorable. However both games are still way better than most everything in 2023.
>ape escape 2 is the worst in the series
AE2 was fine. Million Monkeys is the one that sucks balls.
It has the worse-looking feel to it and core gameplay-wise it only adds more monkye bosses than Specter, but it's less handholdy-y than 3's overpowered transformation gimmicks (knight/magician basically auto-shield you from all damage when active and it's the FIRST one).
Plus its minigames (even that clunky rope-climbing one) are the best overall, suck it Kojimbo drones.
I'll make it clear that Advance 3 doesn't count. However on a similar note neither does Metroid prime or dead space. It's pathetic people are now saying remakes are proof a year is the best for gaming.
I really don't know who says this maybe if you stopped lurking social media you wouldn't have to have these imaginary fights pretending to be threads
ACVI and Pikmin 4 go toe to toe with literally everything in 2003 and are outright better than a good chunk of those.
Seriously why do you have Sonic god damn Heroes on there.
I just assumed it's not cherry picked
You want to bring Pikmin up? Let's take a look at game releases when the original Pikmin games came out then! Here >GTA 3
>Smash Bros Melee
>Luigi's Mansion
>Pikmin
>Halo Combat Evolved
>Metal Gear Solid 2
>Tony Pro Hawk Skater 3
>Jak and Daxter
>Final Fantasy X
>Golden Sun
>Advance Wars
>Twisted Metal Black
>DMC
>Silent Hill 2
>Sonic Adventure 2
>Mario Kart Super Circuit
>Balder's Gate 2
>Zelda Seasons
>Max Payne
>Red Fraction
>Castlevania Circle of the moon
So what about 2004 when Pikmin 2 released? Well let's take a look
>Halo 2
>Half Life 2
>KOTR 2
>Metal Gear Solid 3
>Rome Total War
>World of Warcraft
>Rachet and Clank up your arsenal
>Unreal Tournament 2004
>Metroid Prime 2
>Doom 3
>Metroid Zero Mission
>Pikmin 2
>Ninja Gaiden
>Fable
meanwhile 2011 mogs both of them
Eh, we can agree to disagree but I'd say almost every year up to 2012 was packed with multiple bangers.
Looking back Saints Row 3 is reddit incarnate.
SR3 is kind of like Old World Blues in that it retroactively is not as funny any more since that style of humour has been done to death by now. People complain OWB is like an episode of Rick and Morty even though OWB came out 2 years prior to Rick and Morty ever airing.
Saints Row 3 one of the most disappointing games I've ever played. I loved Saints Row 2 and was so let down with just about everything in SR3. A game that is 40% turret sequence by mass.
SR2 annoyed the shit out of me with all the minigames you had to do in order to progress to the main storyline. SR3 had a bit of that too but was way less egregious.
In general though, I don't know why people on this board ride SR2's dick so hard. The game was cringey and mid. SR3 was the right level of ludicrous and stupid/zaney, but they went too far with it in subsequent games.
I hate SR3, the campaign sucks, the missions are boring, the characters are degenerated caricatures of their SR2 counterparts and gameplay was floaty bullshit that wans't all that different. The boner people have for 3 is because they never played 1 or 2 and have no frame of reference and they got off to the Kanye West song storming the tour thinking it was cool when they played it at 13 years old.
Go back and play this again, it's fricking shit.
SR1 was great
SR2 was boring
SR3 was awesome
That's how I remember it
The city in SR2 felt dead to me. Even population density wise, you'd see like 1 or 2 npcs at a time and like 1 or 2 cars. It felt like a game meant for the PS2 it was so dead.
SR2 had more fun activities, more interesting plot and characters (a bit wacky but with some serious moments), and a more interesting city. The gang wars mechanic was superior, many shops and minigames, characterful areas, tons of secrets. Exploration felt rewarding. Stillwater felt so alive, yet Steelport felt so dead in SR3.
Saints Row 3 basically marked the starting point of the series decline by featuring a smaller map, pants on head moronic story, less customization, and too many turret sequences.
meanwhile all of them suck except for these
Return to Dream Land is great though?
>bing bing wahoo slop is good
kirby has like 2 good games at best anon
Kirby has a lot of good games you brainlet, tell me why you think it's bad beyond "bing bing wahoo"
its way too fricking easy and braindead. my little sister got it on the wii when she was 6. thats the intended audience anon
>It's easy and therefore it's bad
Have you done Extra Mode? The True Arena? Kirby games are always easy to just beat, and it's not mindlessly easy like Star Allies.
>>It's easy and therefore it's bad
yes. games that play themselves are for literal babies anon
It doesn't play itself though? You're exaggerating hard, you can't beat Magolor Soul by just mashing buttons.
Kirby Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot are better. The creativity and fun level design makes up for the obsessive ease.
no amount of good level design will ever make up for a game being so easy that it becomes boring.
Kirby is the only Nintendo IP that has maintained quality throughout the years.
Everything else has gone to shit. Even fricking Wario Ware
People who think Skyrim sucks are just edgy
it doesnt suck, its just not good. mid at best
I would say I didnt like it as much as Oblivion but it was still good.
Skyrim is better than Oblivion but both of them are a far cry from what made Daggerfall and Morrowind so great
Morrowind had shitty side quests. Oblivion added soul to the side quests and made them interesting.
How the frick is that edgy?
Because it's a decent game and only autists hyper fixate on the changes it has from the other games.
>BamHam City
>inFamous 2
>RH Fever
>Return to Dreamland
>Shadows of the Damned
>TW Shogun 2
>UMvC3
>bad
yes
UMvC3 is the best game in that image, and I am not joking.
fighting games are for blacks and autistics i am neither
Neither am I and yet it's my favorite game of all time.
im glad you like fighting games anon, but they just dont appeal to me at all. not even remotely.
What's wrong with Shogun 2?
Shogun 2 is the best TW title ever and there won't be any better. It's not just a game, it's a piece of art. I still start it up every now and then just to enjoy the gorgeous beauty again. With an AMD X3D cpu you can now have many thousands of soldiers on the battlefield without lag thanks to the large V-cache.
cringe af selection
It's funny to think I was mind blown by LA Noire's facial capture back then which looks like total ass today.
Even if you don't like it the series peaked with 3. It was a perfect resolution and yet again faithfully improved upon the multiplayer component in ways the fans truly loved. Gnasher was still king despite the sawed-off noobs. It was good fun.
>Saints Row the Third
>Gears of War 3
>Modern Warfare 3
>Resistance 3
>Asscreed Revelations
>Dirt 3
>Skyward Sword
Dire.
tangentially related, but what generator do you guys use to make charts like this?
topsters.org, they added a game database a couple years ago.
thanks 🙂
2011 was the last great year for videogames. I picked both of these up at the same time and they both blew my mind. BF3 felt like a next-gen shooter compared to everything else on the market at the time and Dark Souls needs nothing said that hasn't already been said about a million times already. One of the best games of all time, contender for THE best.
Battlefield 3 had a shitty Champaign but I'll agree 2011 was the last great year in terms of the sheer volume of great releases.
Terraria, Dead Space 2, Dark Souls and Total war shogun are the only good games on here.
no it's just Terraria and that game isn't even that good.
>that 2001 list
God damn, that was a good year for vidya
It amazed me a bit as well. 2001 was probably in the top 5 years ever.
>>Jak and Daxter
TAKE ME BACK, BEFORE WE WENT TO THE FUTURE.
I almost can't believe how good 2001 was. We were so spoiled, and we didn't know it.
Frick...gaming used to be so fricking good
Armored Core VI destroys half the games on the right.
That's massive copium. Although if you want we can be fair and compare what games came out the same year as the last armored core game before Rubicon to 2023! Let's go!
>Far Cry 3
>Borderlands 2
>New Super Mario Bros U
>Max Payne 3
>Dark Syders 2
>Diablo 3
>Guildwars 2
>Black Ops 2
>Dragons Dogma
The number of quality releases is definitely decreasing by 2012 but it's still there.
Damn, that picture of the Ruby/Sapphire guide just brought up memories that I forgot I even had. sovl.
When Pokemon was kinondrum
Also had Max Payne 2 Beyond Good and Evil, SSX3, Baten Katos, Tenchu, Wario Ware Inc, C&C Generals, Prince of persia Sands of Time, Fire Emblem Blazing Blade, Mario Golf, Pokemon Colosseum, Call of Duty 1, Wario World, Metal Slug 5, Manhunt
Simpsons Hit and Run is shit and is only well liked because of nostalgia. Sonic Heores was always shit, like all 3D Sonic games.
Eh I'd say adventure 2 is an ok game.
that's how good years used to be for gaming. You'd completely miss some masterpieces without knowing.
Wario world! God I fricking love that game. Just started playing it this week. One of the best platformers I've played. I'll never understand why it doesn't get more recognition
here come the sonic homosexuals shoving in their shitty games
Half of those games on the right are bad or in Pokemon's case not from 2003 just released here that year.
>No Alan Wake 2
>No Xenoblade Chronicles 3: Future Redeemed
>No Asgard's Wrath 2
>No Against the Storm
>No Dave the Diver
>No Pizza Tower
>No Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty
>No Cocoon
>No Talos Principle 2
>No Sea of Stars
>No Theatrhythm Final Bar Line
>No Hi-Fi Rush
>No Diablo IV
>No Star Ocean: Second Story R
>No Humanity
>No Wargroove 2
>No Octopath Traveler 2
>No Blashphemous 2
>No Alelier Ryza 3
>No Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty
>No Like A Dragon: Ishin
>No Fire Emblem Engage
>No Dredge
>No Lies of P
doomposters are so pathetic
If you think any of these games mog 2003 you're a moron.
future redeemed is better than the RPGs on the right. RTwP kotr troglodytes will seethe at this post.
Oh shut up. KOTR is great and you know it.
You're both desperately clinging onto the excitement you get off of purchasing and consuming new games but it won't last forever. Find meaning outside of the Vidya in your lives I beg you
>Alan who too?
>addon
>literally what
>old early access
>the "indie game"
>ok
>addon
>literally what
>dunno
>cuck game
>wat
remaining list of mediocre games
>alan wake 2
>digital only game
automatic F-tier
frick that
shot themselves in the foot with a digital only release, could've been easy GOTY but no one heard about it or saw it in store because "muh digital license discovery channel futore"
>first fricking game listed is sonic
Kys
Crash Nitro Kart sucks ass, go back and play it and you'll realize your nostalgia is taking hold
It's a good kart racer. It's only mediocre in hindsight due to the sheer quality of CTR.
NTA but nitro kart sucks. It's inferior to a four year old game on worse hardware gameplaywise and soundwise.
Nitro Kart isn't bad objectively. It's a good kart racer and was fun to play with friends. Yes it's bad in comparison to team racing but in a similar note basically every Mario kart is bad in comparison to Wii.
An actual BAD kart racer would be crash tag team racing.
tag team sucks but I wouldnt even call it a kart racer. It has an awful campaign and story, unfun racing, unfun battle. Stunt mode was the only redeeming feature.
The point is Nitro Kart still has fun and good core gameplay.
>fun and good core gameplay
I've gotta disagree there, just a few things:
No boost reserves so depth is cut in half
Linear campaign order
Antigrav sections needed more polish, they slow the kart down for some reason, sometimes you clip through the floor on teknee tracks
Cant fire shields
Startline rev isnt bufferable like before so it's needlessly strict
You hit the ceiling of certain levels when moving too fast off ramps (great way to punish good play)
You slow down in the air for some reason even with boost
the gba version unironically gets most of these things right
The thing is most people don't care about these things. Growing up everyone I knew liked Nitro Kart and never played it. It's good fun. Sure as a Crash game it's not as good but as a video game it definitely holds up to the competition.
The right has only 4 more games than the left, but you're using vertical boxart instead of horizontal boxart in order to make it appear much much bigger than it actually is. It's incredibly disingenuous.
The difference is the quality of games.
You can make whatever argument you want about the quality of games in recent times, but using intellectually dishonest methods of argumentation like OP did hurts the argument much more than it supports it.
If old things are better than new things why don't they just make new things like old things?
Because of graphics. Due to the sheer time and effort triple a companies have to put into graphics game development takes much longer which makes it harder to have as much content or quality that older games had.
No, I disagree with you. I don't think it's the demand of "graphics." Japanese games like RE4 remake are coming along just fine while being graphically demanding. The problem is Western dev work culture. Californian devs are too fricking lazy and will file a million lawsuits if you tell them 600 coffee breaks is too much. That's not even mentioning DEI
I dont think your right. I don't think its an unwillingness to work at all. I think there's actually just a skillset issue with modern game devs. In the last decade a lot of devs who started making games in the 70s/80s/90s have retired and been majority replaced by millennials who appear to be less skilled. Its not really them being lazy but rather them just not having the same skills as the devs who made games before them.
Yeah that might be true as well. A lot of devs got big off making arcade games which have to be addictive to be successful.
I don’t think that’s it either. I think it’s really just a byproduct of corporatization of the industry. Game companies are generally way too big and have too much goddamn money. Budgets are obscene and that means the people bankrolling the games have too much pull. Even if you have a talented team that can pull something really good off it doesn’t matter if the suits in charge say “add some revenue streams/change this content so it tests better/work with this consulting group on the story because we say so or were pulling the plug”
Look at the new suicide squad that is clearly going to be dogshit. Rocksteady can make good games. That could’ve been a good game. Probably not an amazing game because the Arkham formula is tired as shit but still something solid from the people who created it. But guarantee you the suits that bankrolled the project said “you know my kids have been playing this game destiny 2 and when I read about the money it makes, it’s crazy! With this license we have to be able to get a piece of that”. Then all the other suits go “oh my god Brad that’s such a brilliant idea how did none of those fricking nerds think of that” then they argue with the team and ultimately win because what are the nerds going to do? Quit? Maybe a few will but I bet most of them won’t, they’ll suck it up and make that piece of shit and the few that do quit will be replaced with recent grads and pajeet, neither of whom give a frick as long as they’re getting paid and can add a major studio to their resume
They don't care about better things, they care about more profitable things
That's true as well. Look at something like Dragon Ball Z Budekai Tenkaichi 3. It's packed full of hundreds of playable characters from the shows and mangas as well as microscopic details that only the biggest DBZ spergs would notice.
That game could never happen today. They'd lock all the characters behind a paywall and you wouldn't have as many either.
>Becouse graphics
>And to make more money
Also becouse the old guard didn't teach any of their secrets to the new people, posibily becouse they're competition but also becouse they most likely weren't thought anything themselves and didn't thought it was necessary to teach these things to anyone else
I dont think its really something you can just sit down and teach to someone.
Indie devs try to, but they always feel like they're missing something.
Modern game companies usually are afraid to take the crazy liberties that they did in the old days.
There are literally hundreds of indie games that go blow for blow with the old shit.
Ganker doesn't play enough games to see them.
"Oh but they're low budget" yeah but the tech difference makes it so that it is graphically identical to your 10 pixel game from the olden days.
If somethings missing, its probably the fact theres no nostalgia but the gameplay was still designed for children/teens
These indies rip off old shit and stitch it together like a Frankenstein monster. I like originality not metroidvania like souls like wario land like rubbish
2017 was the actual best year, at least from what I've experienced between when I was born in 1999 to now.
I can't tell if this is bait or if OP is genuinely moronic
I'll assume both
Lol are baiting
The right is all trash to mid minus Wind Waker
I don't think anyone is saying that. At most, people are saying this is the best year for games since the end of the 7th generation
Yes that accurate. 2023 was the best year since 2013. 2014 to 2022 I don't think I can even think of 10 games I liked in that period from 2014 to 2022. Whereas 2013 had 10 games I liked just in that 1 year.
I saw someone on Twitter say it with 50k likes. Probably zoomers who've never played anything pre 2016
Yeah, that really isn't defensible. Guess there are people that deluded out there.
Imagine using trash like Rayman 3 as a exemple of a good game, Jesus Christ anon
Rayman 3 is a fun game and if high rush homosexualry can be used as an example of a good game in 2023 then rayman can be used as an example for 2003.
all gamecubes games were shit
Snoy
cope & seethe
Thoughts?
I turn 19 this year and almost none of that shit in the third column applies to me
Can you stop being moronic before you post?
Oh I thought it was about people’s ages, my bad bruh frfr
funny enough its the 10 year old column that makes me feel the oldest
t. early 30s
First off, I don't hear anyone saying how awesome 2023 was. The last "good" year was 2017 with all sorts of original titles spread across all systems, Zelda and Bing Bing Wahoo among them, but not the only ones.
2003 isn't a great example either, because despite still being "the golden age", it was on the downhill side of it and a prime example of the mid-generation doldrums with GameCube in particular facing a severe games drought as it settled into a definitive third place...not that the picture on the right reflects good taste.
If you want to make people feel old, point out that Five Nights at Freddy's turns 10 this fall.
I put 2023 against 2023 because normies are saying 2023 is the best year and 2003 is the third year of the 2000s.
Surely it's just a coincidence you're not using the third year of the 2010s I wonder why that could be lol
Because by 2013 gaming began its slow descent into mediocrity but I could do so if you wanted. Still mogs 2023
Metal Gear Rising and Rayman Legends were so much fun.
>.
True even if legends was a downgrade of origins.
Come on anon, I'm one of the people saying every year has good games and even I think this image is weak.
The only good game on that list is Metal Gear Rising. AC6, Alan Wake 2 and Pizza Tower alone blow the frick out of everything else you've posted.
Alan walk? Jesus fricking Christ lmfao. If you think Alan Walk mogs Rayman Legends or even Link Between Worlds you need to keep yourself safe.
A Link Between Worlds is an inferior 'sequel' to Link to the Past, and Rayman Legends is an inferior sequel to Rayman Origins. Don't let nostalgia blind yourself from how shitty those games are.
Doesn't matter if they're inferior. They're not fricking walking sims.
Walking sims literally became a trend at the end of 7th gen lol. In fact pretty much every shitty trend can be traced back to a game from that era.
Sony slop doesn't represent the majority of the 7th gen.
You're confusing walking sims with movie games, another trend that accelerated during 7th Gen
Examples
Examples of what? Guys in 7th gen loved saying shit like 'gameplay and story should be more interwoven' and then having the player walk into a room where something is happening behind impenetrable glass and stay there until it was done
alan wank 2 was digital only so it doesn't deserve a mention
>Still mogs 2023
>BioShock Infinite
>Tomb Raider
>Pokemon XY
lol no
Link Between Worlds
Rayman
Metal Gear
Yes.
Recency bias exists and it's obvious you have it.
>Says another anon has recency bias
>Calls Link Between Worlds and Rayman Legends good because of recency bias
>Doesnt care that the games are inferior
Truly you are the most enlightened anon here with the best taste I've seen. It obviously should matter if a game is worse than the prior games if you're including it as a contender.
I stated before that Rayman Legends was inferior to origins but I still liked it. See the thing about me is I'm able to realize a games flaws and still like it. Alen Walk 2 is worse than 1. 1 had more gameplay.
>Alen Walk 2 is worse than 1. 1 had more gameplay.
lol case in point. you are biased against recent games because they are recent
Keep consuming product moron. I bet you never play older games.
I enjoy both new and old games from before you were swimming your daddy's ballsack. Your dopamine receptors got fried and now stuck in 2013, what a retaded era to be nostalgic for.
Alan Wake 1's gameplay was abject garbage and the game was carried by the storytelling. It was only with Control and AW2 that they figured out how to make mediocre gameplay with good storytelling, which is a huge leap forward. But keep LARPing as someone that played the games.
People forget how fricking miserable the early-mid 2010s were. There's a reason why posts here were all mocking the bald spess marine types because that's literally what 90% of the protagonists were. And indie games barely existed so most of the games were just mid-tier trash.
7th gen was so fricking dire for gaming as a whole especially for series like splinter cell and so many others especially if you liked anything Japanese that wasn't on a handheld
>handheld game
>ok
>series that peaked on the PS2
You have recency bias but in the opposite direction: if a game is recent it MUST be bad no matter what. Current gen MUST be worse that even the lowest point in gaming since 32bit consoles were a thing because new is bad and old is good.
>le Yes. *gigareddit.png*
Gibberish reply.
glad you agree.
No, that's not true. I enjoyed Breath of the Wild, Resident Evil 7 and Monster Hunter world. Funnily enough I was excited in 2017 for the future of gaming. As lackluster as things had been seeing VR becoming more popular, having a great open world game and the release of the switch had me optimistic for the future. It was only late 2019 that I became such a doomer.
>It was only late 2019 that I became such a doomer.
That's hilarious considering games got better after 2017
Holy frick. How?.
At least 1 had gameplay!
Why the frick would you mention that about fnaf ah for frick sake
My son is turning 9 this year and no way would he play any of those games yet on the far-right aside from Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros. Do you really think there are 10 year olds out there who have played, let alone finished, Alien Isolation and Dark Souls 2? Most 10 year olds are playing Fortnite, Minecraft, FIFA, etc.
moron.
Why does this chart act like people were playing these games the second they were born.
moron.
moron.
>heroes
>windwaker
>double dash
>X-2
Double Dash is the best Mario Kart. It's simple arcade fun with great maps and controls.
DS and wii have better maps and controls
DS DOES NOT HAVE BETTER MAPS. I can think of only five good tracks from that game being tick tok clock, Luigi's mansion, waluigis pinball, peaches garden, and air fortress. Most of the tracks were mediocre and the game was too reliant on snaking.
As to Wii the tracks were amazing but the core gameplay was too chaotic and the bikes fricked up the balance. Plus the battle mode wasn't as good.
It's amazing how it's 2024 and people still only care about AAA shit. Some of the best indie games ever made were released this year.
It's really sad how many people have shit taste and somehow just only eat up slop if it's advertised to them.
The type of games I enjoy cannot be replicated via indie. Indie only really works well for 2d games. It's much harder to get a good 3d indie game. For example 3d platformers. I really loved OG 3D Mario. The problem with indies is they don't understand 3D Mario and make it into a banjo clone.
You've literally managed to prove my point, because there are a lot of extremely good indie 3d platformers but you don't play them because you're too focused on AAA slop.
>A Hat In Time
>Pseudoregalia
>Orbo's Odyssey
>Spark the Electric Jester
>Demon Turf
1/3rd of the games you listed are mario clones
A Hat in Time is the kind of game I'm talking about. It misses the elements of 3D Mario I like. Spark is good but it's more sonic.
And what are the elements in 3D Mario that you like, exactly?
I love the more realistic and grounded environments. Specifically in 64 and Sunshine. Places like Bob Omb Battlefield or any level from sunshine felt like they could be real. In most indie games everything is just too whacky for me to care about.
I also loved the focus on missions over collecting random shit. Every indie platformer focuses too much on the collectathon element.
>realistic and grounded environments
Anon, what drugs are you on?
>missions over collecting random shit
Odyssey had 999 power moons. 64 had 100 coin and red coin stars. Sunshine had 24 blue coin shines requiring 10 blue coins and 100 coin shines.
Most indie platformers that aren't named Yooka-Laylee have similar numbers of shit you need to collect as the Mario games you praise.
Odyssey isn't a real 3D Mario game. The difference between Mario 3d games and other games is that Mario focuses on the missions to get the collectables. (outside maybe the blue coins and hundred coin missions.) Other 3d platformers make getting the collectables the main point and lack good fun means of achieving it.
Odyssey shares more in common with Mario 64 than any other 3D Mario game
That's from someone who doesn't understand 3D Mario well. Mario 64's main focus wasn't on collecting, it was on the missions. The only reason why the collectable element exists is because they needed a reward to motivate you to do the missions. Banjo Kazooie is the game that originally misunderstood Mario 64 and put the focus on mindlessly collecting shit which is what odyssey copied.
Odyssey has missions too. I don't think you understand 3d Mario games if you think Mario 64 is closer to 3d land or galaxy 2 than Odyssey
The difference in Odyssey and 64 is obvious. The missions in Odyssey suck. You get a moon for almost anything and half of them are copy and pasted repeatedly. In 64 the stars are spread out and are more rare because the missions that lead you to get them are more important.
That's why sunshine and galaxy focused more on the missions instead of the collecting and kept the collecting element as a side content.
Demon's Turf is shit though
>Star Wars
>Hogwarts legacy
>Spiderman 2
Lmaoing
The fact that you have to turn to rereeases and niche indie games is telling. I could do the same for 2003 in regards to handhelds but I didn't because I didn't need to.
>wonder in S
dude I get that its "good" but come the frick on. Its a bog standard Mario game. It DEFINES B tier. Perfectly middle of the road, good fun game that doesnt stand out from any of the other good games in its franchise.
Wonder is everything wrong with modern Mario. The focus is on surprising you with all these new ideas and concepts but once you finish the game and have done it all the game offers 0 replayability or challenge.
Why did you pick 2003 when 2004 has all the real games
Oh it's a troll post
Because 2003 is the third year of the 2000s. Just like 2023 is the third year of the 2020s. I'm also proving how any year in the 2000s could mog 2023.
> Starfield crap as best game
Just because it's from Bethesda. Had it been some unknown indie, no one would speak about it by now.
If it was some unknown indie you'd have hundreds of "documentaries" on YouTube about how they lied.
I've been keeping "top 10 lists" of games for years and 2014 was the first year where I didn't have a top 10 and I've never had a top 10 since then either. Pretty sure every year up to 2013 I always had at least 10 games. I have it all kept in a excel document but I feel like I probably wouldn't like a lot of those games now that I liked back during the years I played them.
What's your cutoff for inclusion? Being particularly great, or just liked at all? I only started doing something similar in 2022 but for 2022 & 2023 I managed to make Top 25s where everything is at least 7/10 to me.
Dunno really. Looking now I started doing it in 2004 (when I was 14) and it might have flip flopped between stuff I really loved some years but other years it was just stuff I thought was ok.
Nah, have hope anon. Modern gaming may make you feel like you just hate gaming but trust me... If you go back and play some classics you'll realize it's not you.
the games in the 2023 picture are better on average
On average? Sure after 7 plus years of goyslop and half of them are remakes
why isn't Devil May Cry 2 up there?
If we're talking about highly acclaimed games you forgot:
Hi-Fi Rush
Pizza Tower II
Octpath Traveller
My Friendly Neighborhood
Remnant 2
Dave the Diver
Hello Kitty Island Adventure
Pseudoregalia
Bomb Rush Cyberfunk
Lies of P
Slay the Princess
No one fricking cares about these indie games outside of autists.
Only zoomers with terminal brain rot care about brands.
It's not just brands. Indies are extremely limited compared to games with larger budgets. I'd rather play midware
That's not really true anymore
How so?.
Kino. Rumble pack must've been amazing as well
The rumble pack to me was only impressive for a few days and I pretty much never used it again. So it wowed me when playing Starfox but the next time I used it was for OOT in 98 and I was just like "ehh" and never used it ever again after that.
no, you didn't zoomer.
I'm 33. I never cared about rumble and find it annoying. When the PS3 controller launched with no rumble I didnt give a shit. I turned it off on the PS5 the day I got it.
Didn't one puzzle require it? Eh, not too surprising then I guess
No it only revealed secret optional holes in the ground with the stone of agony. It wasn't really that necessary.
Oh. That makes more sense.
>Sonic Heroes
>mario and luigi
>FF X2
not even sure if you trying to make 2003 look bad
>Rise of Nations
>Homeworld 2
>Impossible Creatures
>C&C Generals
>Need for Speed: Underground
>Burnout 2
>EVE Online
>Soul Calibur 2
>Viewtiful Joe
>Prince of Persia Sands of Time
>Call of Duty 1
>Beyond Good & Evil
To add:
NBA street 2, max payne 2, smt nocturne, one of the best years for NFL games with 2k & madden having great releases, mario & luigi superstar saga, KOTOR, castlevania aria of sorrow, rainbow six 3.
03 was an amazing year, really the whole first half of the aughts was in general.
NFl games used to be good before they could monetize them.
Really the whole range of sports games in general used to be good.
My main problem with indies is they tend to very limited to what kinds of games they can make & if they go outside that there’s usually some major trade offs involved that hamper the experience. Plus they are almost always polarizing when it comes to their art style which is a love it or hate it sort of thing, there's a ton of indies that I should like but can't stand the aesthetic.
Yeah the art style point is true. I don't want to play games that are ugly.
>BG3 on the list
Nice fake list.
>Sonic Heroes
>X-2
bruh you didn't need to pad this out 2003 was a really strong year
Sonic Heroes is terrible, though.
Most of the rest of those have a claim, though.
Because most young people playing games now were still kids or unborn in 2003. You're considered an old dude by now who should've grown out of videogames.
But yeah 2023 is only good in terms of the last decade or so, years like 1998 mog it hard.
I was born in 2004. I played all these older games because my family was poor (lucky in hindsight) and they couldn't afford newer consoles so they bought me a GameCube and I got to play on my older brothers PS2.
is no one gonna point out crash fricking nitro kart being on that list, that game sucked so bad the GBA port was actually better.
The tracks ended up in Nitro-Fueled at least, which was fricking superb.
The tracks were downgraded imo. They looked worse color wise and anti gravity was left out.
Nitro Kart is fine. Only die hard crash autists hate it.
yeah I think videogames have lost their way really. in their quest to extract money from normies they have lost their soul
Anything that appeals to normies eventually goes to shit. Normies have no standards.
in this pic I like and enjoy
>Sonic Heroes
>Hit & Run
>Double Dash
>X-2
i heard that lotr game is supposed to be good but never played it
It's best if you have friends. Return of the King is kino as well.
>padding out your list with garbage shovelware like fricking WWE smackdown
WWE games didn't used to be shovelware. You only think so now because of the quality of recent WWE games.
jak on the log
I was the person earlier who said I've been keeping a "top 10" list every year since 2004 but stopped in 2-14 as I couldn't think of 10 games I liked in 2014 and onwards.This is a pic. Keep in mind theres some of these games I wouldnt like now if I was to play them again. (I was 14 in 2004)
While I can appreciate the effort of getting a GOTY list since 2004, your taste is absolutely fricking garbage anon. You've somehow managed to miss 90% of landmark indie games.
Which games? I might have played them but not liked them.
Also I might have played them but not in the year they released. I made those lists in the year at the time. So theres games I liked but arent there as I might have played them later. I know I like Batman Arkham Knight and that's not there as I didnt play it until the year after it came out as the PC version was so broken at launch.
You somehow never played Yume Nikki (2007), Cave Story (2007), Iji (2008). You missed out on the entire era of RPGMaker horror games like The Witches House (2010) and Ib (2012). You missed the larger games like VVVVV (2010), Super Meat Boy (2010), The Binding of Isaac (original, 2011) or even other cult hits like EYE (2011). And more recently you missed Paper's Please (2014), LISA (2014), Undertale (2015) or Hades (2020).
This isn't to say you have to even like any of these games. But you've managed to play almost nothing but strictly popular, AAA games with rare exception.
>Cave Story (2007) (thought this was ok)
>VVVVV (2010) (liked this)
>Super Meat Boy (2010) (loved this)
>The Binding of Isaac (original, 2011) (hated this)
>Paper's Please (2014) (found this boring)
>Undertale (2015) (found this boring)
>Hades (2020) (found this boring)
I played all of those I just didn't play them the year they came out.
Who gives a shit. Not everyone likes 2d games you moron.
Damn, imagine growing up in the NES and SNES days. It must've been miserable not having access to 3D games. Who would want to play dumb 2D shit like Super Mario World or Zelda or Final Fantasy.
The problem is that a lot of morons end up being like the kpop band dipshits that literally only listen to one type of music and then cry about how everything else is shit. I'm not asking people to go listen to Death Grips, I just want people to get some goddamn taste. Otherwise you get people like the anon above.
It was like jerking off and then having sex.
"MUH INDIE GAMES!" Ngl I'm sick of hearing this shit. Not everyone enjoys small scale 2d games and not everyone is terminally online enough to know about some niche indie game.
no one cares what you think boomer, a lot of indies are not 2d or small scale and you would know this if you actually looked for games instead of crying on Ganker
That guy who replied to you first isn't me (2004 list anon). This is me
You indie gays are like those hipsters who lecture you for only liking mainstream music and not knowing about some niche band with 20 views on YouTube.
It's pretty telling you have to go all the way back to 6th gen in order to find a year in video games that was better than 2023
I used 6th gen and 2003 because 2003 was the third year of the 2000s and 2023 is the third year of the 2020s. Any year before 2012 mogs 2023.
kys zoomer
>2012
Nah.
It's only 4 games less and the right is REALLY stretching the quality of the games if has to include Final Fantasy X 2.
The left includes sea of stars and high homosexual rush.
>Sonic Heroes, literal shovelware titles, a gba port of Mario, Crash Nitro Kart, Ape Escape 2, FFX2
kek'd
1998 was the best year though. With GoldenEye, Metal GEar Solid, Grim Gandango, Starcraft and Broodwar, Tekken 3, Crash Bandicoot 3, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Half Life, Resident Evil 2, Thief, Banjo Kazooie, Pokemon Red and Blue, Super Mario 64, Gran Turismo, Tomb Raider 3, Need for Speed Hot Pursuit, Commandos, Mario Party, Spyro, Oddworld, Baldurs Gate, etc.
All years from 1998 to 2002 were just fantastic.
You can still spend endless hours on games from 1998 today.
True.
Mario 64 and Pokemon Red were 1996.
In the civilized world Pokemon came out in 1998. Japan had it earlier.
I never have issues finding games to play ngl.
I might not enjoy like 90% of a video game conference or direct or whatever, but there's always some stuff out there that I'll probably have fun playing it.
I only play older games. I don't see the point in mindlessly playing new games.
>meanwhile in 2003
>most of the games are made for toddlers
shh don't tell them they're worshiping games way out of their age demographic
>muh mature games for mature gamers such as myself
>muh muh!
>b-b-baby wun bah bah!
>LE
shut up fayggot, LOL
>s-shut up f-homosexual lol.....
>muh
"Anything else"?
>muh mature gaymen
>muh
you LOST
All because a game doesn't have graphic gay sex doesn't mean its only for toddlers.
Not moronic, just uneducated.
There's no period of time so awful someone won't have nostalgia for it.
TO BE FAIR the Wii u era wasn't horrible outside of sales. Specifically in terms of 3DS we got some great games
>Kirby Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot
>Rythm heaven megamix
>Tomodachi Life
> Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
> Lots of cool smaller titles developed by Nintendo for e shop
>Best Mario golf game
>SMASH bros with free online
It wasn't great but I do prefer it to now where Nintendo puts one or two great games out every few years with nothing outside of ports and remakes outside of that.
You're out of your mind
If it was ANY other Nintendo Console, I could understand. Wii. Gamecube. N64. etc. But seeing people try and rehabilitate the Wii U and act like Nintendo was better then is ridiculous. The nicest thing I can say about it that it was simply the least worst option for console exclusives until 2016/2017. End of 7th gen to early 8th gen was truly dire on all fronts and the nostalgia for it because of new=bad logic is insane
I'd say the Wii u was bad but 3ds was fine and better than the ds. 3DS is probably the only thing I enjoyed about the 6th gen and I'm still finding fun games on it to play today.
>but 3ds was fine and better than the ds.
lmao
DS doesn't have that great of a library and the touch gimmick is annoying. 3ds has a ton of great underated games as well as better remakes than the ds got. The best games I can think of from the ds are
>That Kirby Pikmin type game?
>Kirby snes remake
>Phoenix Wright
> Brain age
>Dk jungle climber
> New Super Mario Bros
> Metroid Prime Hunters.
The 3DS had
> Kirby Triple Deluxe
> Planet Robobot
> Kid Ikkurus (misspelled but too lazy to look that shit up)
> Luigi's Mansion 1 remake as well as Luigi's Mansion 2
>Brain age
> Mario Golf
>Dk Returns remake with extra levels
> Rythm Heaven megamix
> Wario Ware Gold
> Underated Samurai game Nintendo released originally (basically punch out but samurai)
>Smash bros
>DS doesn't have that great of a library
I didn't even have one at the time and even I know this is bullshit. Get better taste.
I've played every major DS game. The only ones I found enjoyable were Kirby, Phoenix Wright and Mario 64 DS. Not a fan of JRPGs and I hate touch screen controls. DS has not aged well.
>I've played every major DS game
Translation: I've played every major Nintendo game on the DS
The fact that the only non-nintendo game you were able to list was Ace attorney is indictive you don't have much experience with the DS library
Again, I don't like JRPGs. I'm not a fan of action side scrollers either.
I've played every DS game I heard was good.
I like X-2 but that's not a very good example.
2023 blows 2003 out of the water
Also interesting that most of the best games people remember from 2010-2015 were either PC or handheld games.
Handheld and PC always had the best games. GBA, the PSP, Vita and Switch were all the best consoles.
Do Gankertards want to know why gaymin has been such dogshit since around 2015? Ill let you know.
You see big video game companies have boards of directors. These people sit on other conpanies boards or maybe banks. They have friends that sit on boards. Think of them as a community of nerds but they like numbers and money. Well, they also get a say in where a company goes because they represent share-holders. A parasitic class of """"people"""" that get paid to watch other people work because of "fractional reserve lending". So these people decide what gets funded using their friends in bankings advice. "I hear this topic is going to be hot. Blahbmahn. Make the hero black were trying to hit the Black person market".
Well, the real reason gaymin has been so dogshit, middle of the road, no-risk, rehash bullshit is because THEY KNOW THE ENTIRE GLOBAL MONETARY SYSTEM IS ABOUT TO COLLAPSE AND JUST WANT TO PICK AS MUCH OF THE CORPSE OF THE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY IN THE SAFEST WAY POSSIBLE BEFORE 2025
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. GET OFF YOUR FAT ASSES YOU STUPID REDITTARD TOURIST Black folk.
Kek, this post reads like a spooky campfire story.
Why are the least educated and poorest always the most obnoxious?
Ganker is one of the few boards on Ganker where /misc/ posting actual manages to increase its quality
>Wash your penis
It sucks they only did some of the books. Pretty funny.
>Not taking the indiepill
>He took the 'Everything is Undertale/Earthbound' cream pill
I don't like 2d games or ugly games
>it's all 2D/Pixelsshit!
another headcanon phrase to cope into not playing anything. 3D platformers, action games and 3D as a medium has been open ended for over a decade now.
Why can't I just play old games? Why does everyone on Ganker hate the idea of not playing new games?
Why is everything new instantly bad, why can't I talk about anything without being told to buy an ad or am straight up called a shill? Why not post on /vr/ with that mindset? Why do you act like I'm forcing and giving you an ultimatum when all I originally said was
?
Stop making up scenarios where you're a victim you c**t.
I'm saying that Ganker has this mentality that if you don't like new games you're a biased hack. I want to enjoy new games but they're just not good. If you're this defensive over new games you need meaning in your life outside of a hobby
>Ganker
newbie detected
>>Why can't I just
>> saying that Ganker has this mentality that if you don't like new games you're a biased hack
Fricking no, you would be called based and every other synonymous buzzword. No one cares that you don't shovel AAA shit down your throat, just don't put yourself in this victimized position as if people have to do one or the other and anons would eat you alive for the other.
We have, HOURLY 'SOVL vs. SOVLESS' threads and have been for years, you're not going against the grain when you complain about anything new.
If you're so offended then just leave.
is
(You)? You sound more defensive than I have when all I said was a surface level take on indie games is disingenuous. You act like there's a gun to your head ready to shoot if you don't play 'le indie pixel game about depression, which exists".
You are imagining a person to be mad at.
/website
I’m playing some indies right now, miss the goyslop. For every Celeste and shovel knight you get 50 tunics and blasphemous.
>2023 is the best year for gaming< is zoomie cope. They've never experienced anything better so they genuinely believe it
True. They're also too moronic to look back at previous years via a quick web search.
why is your 2003 chart missing actual good games like Sands of Time?
why did you include a port of a 1988 game?
all of those games are iterative anyway. Wind Waker is the only one doing something new, even though the end result was shit.
right is only marginally better
>The Two Towers
>X-2
>Nitro Kart
>Heroes
>MARIO 3
every other series on the right turned to shit, but those were fricked back then too.
>MARIO 3
I don’t know if OPs trolling or?
I listed that because it's obviously a fricking port, I loved my GBA because of all the ports I got, but I don't treat those as new releases.
>best games
>no hi-fi rush, pizza tower, trepang2, dave the diver, etc.
The year was disappointing but that's just dishonest.
Weird way to say BG3?
Anyone who enjoys hi fi rush and Pizza Tower is a homosexual
>"2023 is the best year for gaming ever!"
that sentence is only said by redditors or normal gays, people who played a lot of games and are not under 25 will know this year was mediocre at best
source on bottom or no balls.
larian channel you fricking morons
>not official
ah yes, this shithole is full of underage and shitskins
>Thank you to @mashed for working with us on another animation!
Like anon said you're being disingenuous comparing that to official artwork.
They're desperate to defend shit.
Pretending 2009, 2010 or even 2011 were terrible is moronic
Comparing comparing cartoony art style from a commissioned YouTube short to official art from 20 years ago is a little disingenuous don't you think?
Nope. 8th best year in 30 years. I’m sorry BG3 buck broke you.
Here’s my proof, TotK bored me, 6/10 game. At what point can we get in a time machine drop that game off, and not have it automatically win GOTY and be the best piece of media in existence. 87, heads explode. 96 it probably get a theme park. 2009, best game in all of gaming history. 2016, GOTY, 2023, meh.
>not even 2 min apart
larian bots activated, we are during europoors hours after all, i pirated your shitty RPG, played for 30 hours, 6/10, larian bots are worse than furries at this point
>Talk about TotK being one of the greatest games ever made
>Get called a larian bot
Yikes! Rent free.
Jesus christ, this is the lowest bad faith argument I've seen
How pathetic and miserable are you, that you spend your Friday night accusing anyone not as miserable as lying or being deluded
I feel sorry for you
Yep. The newest generation of gamers is just completely ignorant. Previous gens were always able to look onto and recognize the past fairly but the newest gen hates anything pre 2016 unless it gets remade and filled with queer shit in which case they suddenly love it.
>JUST WHAT I NEEDED
>I NEEDED SOMEONE TO FEED!
>Sonic Heroes
Uh huh.
Most of the games you posted are fricking shovelware. KOTOR is the only game of any real worth. 2023 is better.
You never played any of them you moronic zoomer frick. Kys
I got superstar saga the day it released
Just slop on both sides.
>forced terms
>2023
>Only decent games are from Japan
>2003
>Somehow against all odds a licensed movie game published by EA was good
Gen Z & Ass have it so bad it's unreal
Have you played Two Towers recently? It's meh-er Dynasty Warriors, the turn based RPG's were way better.
Was it the only good game from 2003?
You mean proto-Assassins Creed?
Prince of Persia Sands of Time is a fantastic game, go drown in Black person cum.
>first thing Princess of Wakanda fans think of is Black person cum
*le sigh* typical, no wonder you get this shit and like it.
>*le sigh*
you LOST
Nuh-uh it was IRONIC, ROODEY POO.
Me: stay winning
You: epic fail
There's also KOTOR. But really, 2003 mostly sucked. 2023 is better without the nostalgia buff.
PoP games are better than AssCreed.
Nostalgia buff
2003 is better without the recency bias
It's a bunch of trannies, zealous belief that everything is progressing, each year is better than last. They have extreme sunk cost in this belief because they cut their dicks off.
>t.
Possibly true.
Back in the olden days almost anything could be good. Now zoom zooms worship a mid star wars game.
only ape escape is good tho
2023 had nothing memorable in comparison
>old games good
>new games bad
look boom booms i know you were like 5 when these games came out so they've imprinted in your subconcious
but the only ones worth being on there is THU, Pokemans, KOTR (if your a star wars consooomer), and SM3 if you never played a platformer b4
You never played any of them. Shut up. If half of those games got a remake you morons would suddenly play them and claim they're some of the best ever just like you did with dead space.
get rid of the movie/sports games
you take that back about thu
Why? You've never played them and you zoomer morons consider fallen order and fricking high homosexualry rush good so why can't I include some quality licensed games to show how much better games were?
2023 easily beats 2003. Did you really think you did something with this picture?
Cope zoomer gay
So true.
2023 is better than 2003, pick a better year you contrarian boomer.
You never played of these games. Shut up zoom zoom. Go suck a wiener like the rest of you homosexuals do
Sorry but anyone that pretends 2008~2013 were better for video games than now is a moronic. Since 2017 it’s been good and continually good.
PS3/360 were the dark ages of video games.
Early 8th gen was also pretty bad too.
Ok zoom zoom. Let's compare
>2008
>GTA 4
>Fallout 3
>Dead Space
>Super Smash Bros Brawl
>Left 4 dead
>Persona 4
> Gears of War 2
> Call of Duty World at War
>Battlefield Bad Company
>Mario Kart Wii
>DMC 4
>Mirror's Edge
>Far Cry 2
>Fable 2
>Valkyria Chronicles
>Star Wars the force unleashed
>Alone in the dark
>Pokemon platinum
>Lego Batman and Indiana Jones
>Command and Conquer 3 red alert.
>2009
>Batman Arkham Asylum
>Call of Duty MW2
>Dragon Age Origins
> Uncharted 2 (I didn't think it was that good. Sony slop has always sucked.)
>Assassin's Creed 2 (best assassin's Creed game)
>Resident Evil 5
>New Super Mario Bros Wii
> Wii Sports Resort
> Infamous
>Halo 3 ODST (best halo)
>GTA China Town wars
> Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story
> Prototype
> Plants Vs zombies
> Fear 2
>Skate 2
>Demons souls
>Borderlands
>2010
>Super Mario Galaxy 2 (best 3d Mario)
> Red Dead Redemption 1 (better than 2)
>Halo Reach
> Super Meat Boy
> Fallout New Vegas
>Bioshock 2
> God of War 3
>Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker
> Just cause 2
>Alen Walk (I never thought it was good but since you're counting the second one.)
> Donkey Kong Country Returns (great game)
> Dante's inferno
> Castlevania Lords of Shadow
>MegaMan 10
> >Fable 3
>Kirby's Epic Yarn
> Metroid Other M
>Lara Craft Guardian of Light
>Need for speed hot pursuit
>Bad company 2
> Rock band 3
>Call of Duty Black ops
>Assassin's Creed brotherhood
>Street Fighter 4
>2011
>Skyrim
>Portal 2
>Minecraft
>Batman Arkham City
>Skyward Sword
>Deus Ex Human Revolution
> Dead Space 2
> La Noire
>Super Mario 3d land
> Rayman Origins
>Infamous 2
> Resistance 3
>Terraria
> Kirby's Return to Dreamland
>Killzone 3
>Sonic Generations
>Marvel vs Capcom 3
> Mario Kart 7
>War Hammer space marine
>Best games 2012 (2012 game releases started slowing down more as we transition into the modern age.)
>dishonored
>Journey
>Mass effect 3
>Borderlands 2
>Max Payne 3
> Darksiders 2
> Hitman Absolution
>Diablo 3
>Guild Wars 2
> Gravity Rush
>Dragons Dogma
>Black Ops 2
> Prototype 2
> New Super Mario Bros U
>2013 (continuing to slow down)
>Last of Us (frick this game)
>Assassin's Creed Black Flag
>Bioshock Infinite (frick this game)
>Rayman Legends
>Super Mario 3D world
>A Link Between Worlds
>GTA V
>Pokemon X Y
>DMC
> Metal Gear Revengence
> Pikmin 3
>Luigi's Mansion 2
>Far Cry 3 blood dragon
>Tomb Raider
> Dead Space 3
> Battlefield 4
>Injustice gods among us
Now let's take a look at modern gaming.
>2017(an ok start)
>Breath of the Wild
>Mario Odyssey (worst 3d Mario)
> Horizon 0 dawn (who talks about this game?)
> Resident Evil 7
> Nier Automada
> Assassin's Creed origins (repetitive grind)
> Nioh
> Injustice 2 (mediocre sequel)
>Metroid Samus Returns
> Destiny 2
>Call of Duty MW2 (LOL)
>Gravity Rush 2
> Shadow of War (game is designed around lootboxes so it was borderline unplayable by the end.)
>2018
>Red Dead Redemption 2 (walking simulator)
>God of War (walking simulator)
> Celeste (troon game)
>Monster Hunter world (good game)
>Spiderman (LOL)
>Dragon Ball Z Fighterz (good)
>Hitman 2
>Black ops 4 (LOL)
>Sea of Thieves (LOL)
> Hades
>Wario Ware Gold
>2019
>Sekiro shadows die twice
> Resident Evil 2
>Alex Legends
>>Jedi Fallen Order
>Luigi's Mansion 3
>Kingdom hearts 3 (LOL)
>Pokemon Sword and Shield (LOL)
> Borderlands 3 (LOL)
>Modern Warfare
> the outer words (LOL
>DMC 5
>2020
>Doom Eternal
>Last of Us part 2 (LOL)
> Final Fantasy 7 remake (hallway simulator 2!)
> Ghost of Tsushima (ubislop)
>Half Life Alyx
>2021
>Resident Evil Village
> Rectuenal
>2022
>Elden Ring
>God of War Ragnarok (LOL)
Horizon Forbidden West (LOL)
>Modern Warfare 2 (LOL
>2023
>Pizza Tower
> Resident Evil 4
> Spiderman 2 (LOL)
>Starfield (LOL)
>Mario Wonder
> MW3 (LOL)
You never played them. It's no worse than including indie slop.
The games from 2023 as a whole are MUCH MUCH better than 2003 as a whole.
It's not even close.
You could have left out several games on the right, and had a much better point.
Starfield mogs every game released in 2023, cope harder you chink shills
2003 and 2005 are legitimately my favorite years for vidya ever but I wouldn't say that's the best selection of games to prove the point that picture's making. That's the issue with trying to discuss things like this, it’s pretty much impossible to have a wholistic overview of absolutely everything that released in any given year and depends on what the people discussing it have played or whether they've even bothered to look for games which appeal to them. People talk about 2022 like it was a wasteland for example and three of my favorite games released that year.
The thing is almost every year from 1998 onwards was filled with multiple contenders for best game of all time. Then starting in 2014 you have one great game every fear years.
2003 huh?
Let's see...
>Shit
>Decent
>Shit
>Great
>Decent
>infuriating shit port
>Masterpiece
>Great but still a let down for many
>Decent
>Masterpiece
>Decent
>Decent
>Eh
>Eh
>Best Pokemon
>Decent
>LOL
>Eh
>Shit
>Masterpiece
I mean not bad but some of that trash isn't half as good as people pretend
What about
Alan Wake 2,Shinobi non grata,Asgard's Wrath 2,Against the storm,Alien: dark descent,Amnesia the bunker,Atomic heart,Backpack Hero,Blasphemous 2,Bomb Rush cyberfunk,Casette beasts,Clash: artifact of chaos,Cocoon,Coffe talk 2,Darkest dungeon 2,Dead island 2,Dredge,Disney Dreamvalley,Dungeons 4,Wu Long,Lies of P,For the king 2,Fuga: melodies of steel 2,Ghostrunner 2,Gunbrella,WH40K Boltgun,Trepang2,Jagged Alliance 3,Jusant,Killer frequency,Lunacid, Like a dragon: the man who erased his name,Moving out 2,Octopath traveler 2,OTXO,Payday 3,Pseudoregalia,Ready or Not,Remnant from the ashes 2,Robocop rouge city,Roboquest,Shadow gambit: the cursed crew,Slayers X: Terminal Aftermath: Vengance of the Slayer,System Shock remake,The Bookwalker: Thief of Tales,The invincible,The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog,The Talos Principle 2,Trine 5: A Clockwork Conspiracy,Turbo overkill,undertale yellow,viewfinder,void stranger,wanted: dead,WH40K Rogue trader,wild hearts,world of horror,wizard with a gun,Slay the Princess
?
>Against the storm
based but technically came out like 3 years ago
>Amnesia the bunker
not that good
>Atomic heart
lole
>Backpack Hero
bad
>Casette beasts
I'd take other creature capture games over it, also pretty buggy making "sequence breaking" really easy and as a result you'll likely have a really weird difficulty curve playing the game naturally
>Disney Dreamvalley
gets boring quick
>Lies of P
decent but nothing exceptional
>Ghostrunner 2
A game that focuses on "difficulty" and "skill" should not be this fricking clunky, I uninstalled within a few hours because it kept fricking me over with grappling hooks & wallruns where it would just not align properly
>Roboquest
Very good, but I don't know if it does something different enough to stand out vs other similar games
>Slay the Princess
too short
>Alen Walk 2
LOL
> Shinobi Non Grata
Wtf is that? No one cares
>Dark descent
No one cares
>Atomic Heart
Shitty FPS
>Backpack Hero
No one cares
> Blasphemous
Frick off
Half of this shit is indie rubbish
almost nobody liked jak 2. Who the frick played crash nitro kart
Who the frick played Alen Walk 2? I guarantee you nitro Kart sold more than Alen Walk 2
who are you quoting
Myself.
>2003 alone had more amazing games release.
>most of it are soulless bing bing wahoo slop
not the best example anon
>Modern games are so shit even old Sonic shovelware looks good by comparison
Grim.
Let me just single out Super Mario Advance 4 for a second.
Everyone thinking the Advance ports aren't absolute garbage has never played the originals.
>Shitty framerate
>Garbage extra collectibles
>Zoomed in to compensate for smaller screen
>Ear rape with Mario having his 64 voice, which are not only way more annoying in the 2D context than in 3D but compressed to garbage
This is a common theme with the GBA ports, Zelda suffered from similar symptoms and don't get me started on DKC.
Bait thread plus you're gay
Knights of the Old Republic is the only good game from 2003 you put on there holy shit. Am I being trolled?
>hooks
Wind Waker, Superstar Saga, Double Dash, Two Towers, Jak 2, Castlevania. Shut up
>trash waker, something irrelevant, the least interesting mario kart, What? What 2? and another Castlevania.
Wow you're a fricking idiot.
Most of the best games of 2023 are completely irrelevant and sold like shit. Dead Space remake sold badly as did Alen Walk 2.
>Skyrim
>Minecraft
>Dark Souls
All released in 2011. Really makes you think.
Back when you needed innovation to sell a game. Now you just need bots.
>Skyrim
>innovative in any way
This is why western/modern gaming will always be a joke, if that is their audience they didn't have any hope to begin with
Another one, Bethesda always made trash with dumbed down broken mechanics taken from other games, also
>console FPS
I understand that some consoles (especially the Xbox) lacked videogames but console FPS were always and will always be a joke
>i only played western games in my life: the list
Also Enter the Matrix is horrid
Skyrim is dumbed down but still good.
Oblivion improved upon side quests.
All Bethesda games are bad but Morrowind even with all its flaws can be considered mediocre, play good RPGs or action games instead
Stop being pretentious.
Trash is trash and that's what i am gonna call it, you can still try to play better games any time
Spending more money isn't magically gonna make videogames better
Anyone that implies that any year post 2005 was in any way memorable and worth praising probably started playing videogames after 2000, many people seem to think that a longer game=better game when in the vast majority of cases the opposite is true, modern games are only good at giving the illusion that their "content" will be worth checking out by dragging the experience out for as long as possible. Also indie games are massively overrated, often they have good ideas but they have massive flaws like poor presentation, music or fall for the roguelite or "just copy old title" meme.
I loved the 90s and early 2000s game wise but the mid 2000s gave us a lot of games we couldn't have experienced before.
>Mario Galaxy
> Improved Bethesda formula
> Best console fps online
> Lots of revolutionary single player games
lets go
rayman 3 super underrated
Yeah, agreed. It's unfair the reputation it has gathered. The game was fine. Combat system had improved over 2.
The only genuinely great game on the right is F-Zero GX. The rest are nostalgic though.
All better than those on the left.
How do I get my xbox controller to work with Prince of Persia (2003) on PC? There's gamepad input options in the menu but it register any input
doesnt register
You can't really.
>bunch of licensed shitty ass games
the absolute state of poorgays contrarians
How do you know they're shitty? You've never played them.
>Only one new IP in both years
Modern gaming
I agree that older games are better than modern games, but
>Sonic Heroes
> turn-based tactics peaked in 2003
bros...
You mean 1994, for both japanese and western strategy games
kek I love how these images always throw as much 6-7/10 shit on them as possible and then pass them off as masterpieces.