>2024
>I am forgotten
why was Linux gaming a big fricking failure? Nothing works, no one is interested and only people still talking about this are shills
>2024. >I am forgotten
>2024
>I am forgotten
why was Linux gaming a big fricking failure? Nothing works, no one is interested and only people still talking about this are shills
Steam hardware survey
>2,5 years ago
>now
its going up
Exponential growth!
Steam stats don't make any fricking sense
>Ubuntu and "Arch" is the same level, even after the Steam Deck has been released Arch barely increased at all
>Valve sold 3 million steam decks according to the most recent figures
>That's 3 million new "Arch" users
>No Fedora at all
I thought it was curious that the internal thing segregated Steam Deck and Linux but not the OS trackers and ALSO new this year, Virtual Reality as it's own platform, last year it counted VR as Windows
SteamDeck is in in that percentage and its the biggest one (over 40%). It just isnt shown there for whatever reason unless you open up Linux details
>last year it counted VR as Windows
Valve developers have been spotted posting screenshots showing references to SteamOS VR.
Can you post those images?
I'm out of the loop since SteamVR 2.0 was an absolute nothing burger for Linux
Valve updated their support page to shit on GNOME and that was about it
>Valve updated their support page to shit on GNOME and that was about it
Link? Sounds hilarious
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/18A4-1E10-8A94-3DDA
It's written in corporate speak but you can read between the lines
>nvidia and gnome fricking suck donkey balls
>btw no one else is being autistically obtuse
fricking hyprland is listed as having better support ahead of gnome
I watch all of Bradleys videos, even if he does look like a chubby pedophile and lets be honest, he is a vrchatgay so he probably is
That looks more like Steam Link, didn't they just release an update for Questgays? It looks like Valve are using Questgays to test potential wireless tech for the Deckard
Kek, they even list labwc, a pretty unfinished Openbox clone.
There's so many gaming related functions Gnome doesn't support.
Iirc one of the valve contractors also contributes to labwc from time to time
Well yeah, if Gnome doesn't have a vital feature then it doesn't have it. No need to beat around the bush, and everyone knows you can't reason with Gnome devs about what features would be nice to have.
>It's written in corporate speak but you can read between the lines
gotta love how steam drones wet their pants whenever some huge as frick corpo (valve) shits on 10 times smaller corpo (red hat) all the while forking community distro (arch), outright stealing community DE (kde) and community compatibility layers (wine, dxvk) under proprietary license (steamos/steam) without even trying to improve anything or contribute to development because valve is a small indie studio, okay? but at least they shit on gnome, BASED
>stealing
Go away, stupid.
okay, so how's that called when a $10 billion corporation uses free software in their paid products?
>IBM owns red hat dude
IBM in it's entirety isn't involved in linux development, only red hat is
>You don't know what that means
you should read steam/steamos tos, drone
>by employing the devs as contractors
as expected from a small indie studio, can't afford employing those devs
>IBM in it's entirety isn't involved in linux development, only red hat is
Probably true now, but only because IBM/Redhat did a bit of restructuring and shifted teams around so they didn't have two separate groups working on the same thing.
IBM has been doing Linux development since the 90s.
The Steam TOS don't override the GPL. Everything Valve does in the open, is done in the open.
Valve does officially employ a number of their Linux devs. Others are contractors employed by Code Weavers. A few big names are guns for hire that Valve pays extremely well when they need them but can't keep them on full time because they are in too high demand.
>The Steam TOS don't override the GPL
obviously, valve employed top tier lawyers to mitigate all this licensing bullshit and present steamos as a "collection of various pieces of software", but in the end it only works on steam deck
>okay, so how's that called when a $10 billion corporation uses free software in their paid products?
What part of free don't you understand?
>okay, so how's that called when a $10 billion corporation uses free software in their paid products?
It's called using free software.
Proton isn't a paid product, nor is it tied to a paid product, so at best, your argument applies only to SteamOS, officially supported use of which requires a Steam Deck. So demonstrate that the commercial use of SteamOS violates the license terms of Arch Linux, etc., or go away.
>Proton isn't a paid product, nor is it tied to a paid product
Ironically for him the only paid product it's tied to crossover, wine for corporate boomers. He doesn't realize that wine has been self funded for two decades and that proton is just another patchset on top of it like wine-staging.
>He doesn't realize that wine has been self funded for two decades and that proton is just another patchset on top of it like wine-staging
that's a lot of implications, don't think i ever said otherwise
GPL says that anything you distribute to a user, the user has the right to everything you had access to and the same right to modify and redistribute it.
It doesn't say you have to distribute it to everyone, on all hardware, for all purposes.
So there is nothing preventing anyone else from making other SteamOS-like GNU/Linux distributions, in fact there are a bunch of them.
>without even trying to improve anything or contribute to development
I know you shitposters don't bother even researching the topics you post about, but goddamn you're stupid.
>u dumb
not an argument. paying pennies for dxvk development and bloating wine with "patches" (which are practically just additional compatibility libraries) is not contributing for a corpo like valve
>uh actually being the largest contributor to linux gaming isn't enough for a corporation like valve
Damn, those goalposts are about to disappear into the horizon at this pace.
>the largest contributor to linux gaming
that's wine devs
And who is paying the bills to have Code Weavers keep a bunch of devs working on game support?
>4 years of "paying the bills" for devs of 30 years old software
valve drones are something else
>Linux gaming was already this good in 1994
Why didn't anyone tell me??
quoting voices in your head, schizo? or perhaps your mother's alzheimer blabber?
>outright stealing community DE (kde) and community compatibility layers (wine, dxvk) under proprietary license (steamos/steam) without even trying to improve anything or contribute to development
Just a reminder that you never defended these claims and only moved the goalposts.
I won't read your reply to this because you still won't have a valid argument.
>still replies
damn i really hit the nerve of this valve drone
I didn't realize you could steal free software
You absolutely can.
Not saying it happened in this case, but tons of free software is distributed with certain rules or licenses that legally prevent some uses of it or allow usage provided you do certain things (like share the code)
>under proprietary license (steamos/steam)
Valve provides full source code for all free packages used in SteamOS.
https://steamdeck-packages.steamos.cloud/archlinux-mirror/sources
>provides source code for free software they've modified for steamdeck
wow so nice, it would be illegal not to provide it under GPL
Exactly. SteamOS isn't proprietary and Valve would be moronic if they thought they could get away with stealing free software. So they don't.
would be true if valve shipped only free software for steamos
No mainstream Linux distro ships only free software. Installing Steam or AMD GPU firmware by default doesn't mean they violated any free licenses.
okay, might be true, valve are top tier cunning fricks in this regard
Holding Valve to a higher standard then anyone else is their entire argument.
Technically GPL only requires you to distribute the source when requested from people who you distributed binaries to.
Valve is going above and beyond what a number of companies do by making everything available in public.
>Technically GPL only requires you to distribute the source when requested from people who you distributed binaries to
Yeah, but you have to follow through for every customer, and there are a lot of Decks being sold. This is obviously the most straightforward option for them. Valve isn't hostile to free software.
There are a lot of smartphones going around and many phone manufacturers requires some personalized way of requesting sources and then waits for like a month before sending them as a single huge tarball or patchset with no commit history, whichever is less useful. Then again, they are hostile to free software and they do all of that intentionally.
Valve is worth 3 billion while Red Hat 40 billion. Valve is doing a lot for Linux and you don't have to use steamOS
red hat annual revenue 6.6 billions, valve revenue 13 billions. math doesn't add up
source? red hat also has 19 000 people working for it and is owned by IBM, while Valve 360
>19 000 people working for it and is owned by IBM, while Valve 360
revenue isn't profit, 6.6 billions before paying salaries and taxes, which makes valve literally swimming in money and gaben buying oligarch tier yachts which cost like a medium sized warship
Had to hunt down the twitter post. Its not that cool, and you have to really understand what you're seeing here.
Testing a wireless VR headset (Deckard?) connecting to a Linux host system.
>That's 3 million new "Arch" users
No, that's 3 million "SteamOS Holo" users. But for some reason the stats only show it when you filter by Linux only.
The survey is flawed, look at how many chinese users it claims are using steam over english (in the realm of 60%)
The hardware survey is massively overinflated by asian cyber cafes and how each user on a new account counts as a 'new OS' because of the software they use to wipe the machines, which supplies them with new identifers that Steam would use to make this survey. One machine in a cybercafe in China can count as many as 100 times. According to Steam stats, it makes no sense for Steam not to be in simplified Chinese rather than English when we know that isn't true.
It is true, the Survey has a bunch of issues:
>It tries to prioritize a users new system so that they can get it tracked as quickly as possible when a user upgrades
But, it always sees Net Cafe users as being on new systems
>It tries to spot a users primary system so it doesn't count their Mac laptop and ignore their Windows desktop
But that means it tracks users Windows laptops and ignores Linux desktops.
It also might contribute to MacOS being under counted because finally
>It only tracks a single system per account
So if a user has multiple systems that have equal weight for the survey to present, it will track one of them at random.
Ultimately I'm not sure if it is worth it for Valve to fix the survey, they may need to just retire it. They have more modern stat tracking internally and that is what they present to developers or publishers.
Stuff like the per-platform split they show in users year in review stats.
Not counting that people who use Linux are more likely to opt out of those surveys, meaning the number are likely higher than what it shows, just see ProtonDB for example
Steam stats are not the most reliable metric.
Chinese users jump between 30% and 50% and the higher the china share the lower the Linux and AMD shares get as all those chinese internet cafes run on Nvidia OEMs
It's more interesting to look at western stats only.
What happened between May and July 2023?
One of those months when Steam survey suddenly said that Steam is mostly chinese - only to go back to 20-30% chinese a month later. Unreliably china data keeps fricking with the stats constantly.
sorry, I'm not installing your troonix OS.
UGH SORRY I KNOW. I just don't want to take HRT and wears programming socks like the rest of you.
cope troonixer
>don't want to wears programming socks
i prefer thigh highs
Linux/English, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Linux+English.
>playing proprietary slopware gaymes on drm goyware steam(ing pile of shit) on open sores shitware guhnome + wayLMAOland
But seriously Black folk, use xfce + xorg + stable debian gnu/linux, the standard and patrician gnu/linux system but don't be a little apt niglet, download the source code of the stuff you care about and compile it yourself
you are trying way too hard to fit in
how much of this is steamdeck
steam stats are total bullshit
think of how many linux users even get asked to do the hardware survey
think of how many of them would actually say 'yes'
i wouldn't call it an emulator...
>how much of this is steamdeck
About .8% or roughly 40% of Linux users. That number still fluctuates a bit month to month.
Deck has been selling like crazy, but it has also been driving Linux adoption on other systems.
It will be interesting to see where it is in a year with the increased production volume for 2024 or around 5 million units if both production lines stay in operation.
Weird how linux wienersuckers themselves are now claiming that the steam stats are not reliable when it comes to their userbase. When they've been claiming for the entirety of the past year about what a small population Windows 7 users are. It's funny how they never have any self-awareness at all about things like this.
Not everyone accepts the hardware survey. I always skip that shit as I don't care
I think it's pretty cool that you can play games without having to put up with the dumpster fire that is windows
>Nothing works
Works on my machine. What doesn't work for you?
>Implying they have ever tried
>using windows in 2024
I actually play video games so yes
why can't the people at linux figure out a way to run exe files?
They did Anon...it's called binfmt_misc and wine. They are natively executed.
why do i need wine to run executable files?
because the way linux and windows handle stuff are different
https://werat.dev/blog/how-wine-works-101/
see this if you are really interested
what does this mean?
the simplist explanation is that windows and linux do things differently because they're different and descended from different OSes (linux is unix and windows is IBM dos)
the names of equivalent functionality (literally functions) in linux and windows are different and the information you provide them is different (function parameters) and the way that you provide them that information is different (calling convention and application binary interface i.e. how you store parameters in memory registers + RAM) and the way the operating system represents information is different
on linux everything is a file, on windows everything is an object
and the format of programs is different, ELF on linux, PE (.exe/.dll) on windows
linux filenames are divided by and start with / while windows filenames are divided by and start with your drive like A: or B: (technically under the hood they start with )
on windows to open a file you call OpenFile (the interface for programs) which calls NtOpenFile (the interface for drivers) and while on linux you just call open which is i think the equivalent of NtOpenFile
so for programmers windows provides a function called open which is built on top of OpenFile but it's not low level like it is on linux and is also just the name and data types
what wine is doing is similar to that except much much more extensive, to an extreme degree
building fully compatible windows interfaces to linux code
it's actually most similar to windows subsystem for linux one (not two, two is just actually linux)
Because wine provides the win32 api
so i need an emulator to run exe files?
Wine stands for
Wine is not an emulator
so emulation is suddenly a bad thing because Linux users did it?
but it isn't an emulator
and it wouldn't matter if it were
They view it as a purity or superiority contest.
As if in 100 years when we're translating win32 on AMD64 to ??? architecture and some different OS running on a supercomputer with vegana extension that can think for itself, it still won't be as good as Windows because it's emulating it.
literally not an emulator.
Why do you need Wow64 to execute exe files on Windows?
What, did you think that Windows executes it natively without compatibility layers?
>wow64
64 vs 32 bit can get confusing on windows as well, iirc there's some system components that named themselves 64 something but actually run only 32 bit
yes that's literally the component he's describing
WoW64 means windows on windows 64, it's 32 bit emulation on top of windows 64 bit
not that that's actually doing much it's just basically address space translation iirc, there's a reason the main windows interface is still called win32 informally
no, moron
I double click exe it works
thats how it should work in linux too but linux is moronic, made by morons for morons
until morons can make things work like windows does linux will continue to be the moron operating system that nobody but idiots use
>things work like windows
Windows barely works, if even that.
On Linux, I want some program or whatever, I type its name in the app installer and click install and it works.
On Windows, I have to hunt through dozens of websites for a random executable file that might be for the wrong version of Windows, outdated, full of malware or a dolphin porn VR game instead of what I wanted, then navigate whatever install steps it requires in order to actually have it running.
Even stuff that Windows is supposedly able to do better is actually much worse. I recently tried to install Nvidia drivers on a fresh install and first I had to find where they are (the default download from Nvidia is some social media program that tries to make me log in to whatever), then use like 5 dropdowns to select which hardware I have, only to be provided a .exe installer that spat out some obscure error about how it's the wrong variant of the driver for my Windows config. In the end, I had to use an AI chatbot to conjure a link to a working driver installer, since I wasn't able to find one on my own.
On Linux, Nvidia just works on installation or, in worst case, after a single trivial install from the package manager.
>On Windows, I have to hunt through dozens of websites for a random executable file that might be for the wrong version of Windows, outdated, full of malware or a dolphin porn VR game instead of what I wanted, then navigate whatever install steps it requires in order to actually have it running.
are you fricking moronic? sure its fast and easy on linux but if u have THAT much trouble on windows downloading something then there is seriously something wrong with you. it is more cumbersome than sudo apt or a program store on the distro sure but exaggeration much? usually its just "make sure u go to the official site/github"
>usually its just "make sure u go to the official site/github"
Yeah, it's
1. google the program to find its website
2. navigate the website to find the download page
3. find the right version of the download on that page
4. make sure to avoid the fake ad download links
5. run the downloaded installer
6. go through the installer, making sure to disable all the adware and other harmful stuff in there
7. whoops! you clicked the adware bundle installer download instead of just the application installer in step 3, so you now have avast on your system forever
1.5 a very convincing ad and hard to catch similar URL and website landed you on a malware domain
Or these SEO-heavy installer hosts that usually show up (softonic or something like that?)
Funny enough, the sanest way to install stuff on Windows is to get scoop/chocolatey/winget and just use that as a shittier variant of Linux distro package managers and flatpak.
8. you finally get the program working and Windows says it's time to restart for an update
skill issue
and guess what happens when you try to grab an outdated version of a program when it's only available through a repository lmao
windows
>hmm I want to try the older version of that program
>downloads older version from website
linix
>ok so i gotta change 12 dozen settings and type 300 commands into the tux terminal and look up this process 16 times online to make sure im doing it right and oh look the older version isnt in the repository i guess i have to google if someone uploaded it oh i see i have to download the soruce file of it and compile it myself and oh look it didnt work i guess imspending the next 6 hours tonight figuring out how to download an older version of this software
when people say linux doesnt just werk this is what they mean
simple stuff you do in two seconds in windows, likes double clicking an exe, requires some moron shit like right clicking and searching for the correct way to open an executable or finding out how to make it stop single click opening shit by default because linux is made by completeley out of touch morons for morons, the kind of guys who do things the long hard way because theyre too stupid to figure out how to do it fast and simple
>downloads older version from website
You mean
>installer is just a thin downloader that always gets the most recent payload and there's no way of installing older versions
>also it auto-updates on every launch
Sure sounds much easier than running `sudo downgrade mypackage`
yeah its not like i cant do that stuff in linux but these days i dont feel like going thru all that shit just to do my daily tasks and play games
>finding out how to make it stop single click opening shit by default
That didn't happen to me. Therefore, skill issue. Even if you choose a distro that does that by default, skill issue.
>linux will continue to be the moron operating system that nobody but idiots use
good
>I double click exe it works
I actually just tested out by double clicking on an exe, and wouldn't you know it bottles opened up a nice dialog asking me what bottle I wanted to run it in.
Neat. I hadn't tried that out.
That's how it works on my system though. Double click an exe and the game starts
the grognards hated him for he spoke the truth
He didn't though. Not setting up Wine (or a GUI like Bottles) as the default application for double-clicked .exe files is a skill issue.
>its not the truth you just need to do some convoluted bullshit and use the terminal to run this copy pasted script you found online to fix the problem that shouldn't even be a problem you need to fix in the first place
linux in a nutshell
he's right
sorry that linux is not for complete drooling morons, i'll address those accessibility issues in my daily kernel panic report
>I want linux to gain marketshare
>nooooo not usability and UI improvements HISS SPIT
every linux thread is the same thing on repeat
guy asks why linux can't get any marketshare or users
people point out the OS has major issues with doing simple things and every user having to treat using the OS as a hobby because nothing just werks the way you expect and things often inexplicably break for no reason forcing you to dive through 5000 pages of google for fixes
linux guys tell everyone theyre just idiots who dont understand linuxes magnificient design and none of those problems are actual problems
linux continues to flounder
year of linux on the desktop 2025 for real this time
bro you gotta stop quoting voices in your head, they are not real
>some convoluted bullshit
Right-click executable,
"Open With",
"Other Application...",
pick one,
"Set as default".
Isn't this the same way you select a default application for a file type on Windows? Or does it not give you that choice anymore?
Nobody answered my question
>at linux
lol
>exe files
works on my machine
>works on my machine
How?
By translating Winblows API calls using Wine.
>b-b-but why not "natively"?
Because copying and pasting the Microsoft Windows source code into the Linux kernel would be illegal.
Also it would suck balls.
It's not even translation in many cases.
Wine is a recreation of the Windows dlls in a way you can run in any platform pretty much.
You can literally run wine on windows.
>can't run exe'ses
>still has the gall to put out "tech tips"
Say what you like about Bill "well, he's dead" Gates but the guy clearly is more of an expert on OSs than these Linux guys
slightly too obvious but otherwise excellent bait, keep trying anon i belive in you
>Say what you like about Bill "well, he's dead" Gates but the guy clearly is more of an expert on OSs than these Linux guys
You use software made by a pedophile?
>tech tips
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE 'AT LINUX'?!
>I SAID IT'S OVER AND LINUX IS BAD! STOP USING IT AND SUFFER ON WINDOWS WITH ME!
Not even microsoft duses windows anymore, they use Linux for developing the newest windows, slowly but surely everyone is moving to Linux.
>stop shilling for this free and open source system graciously provided to you by a worldwide community of developers
I wonder who could be behind this post.
Shilling is always bad bro.
FRICK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!!!
FRICK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!!! FRICK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!!! FRICK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!!! FRICK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!!! FRICK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!!! FRICK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!!! FRICK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!!!
womm
How do Windows users cope with the fact that everything they type is logged and sent to MS?
I don't really give a shit
can you type your passowrds and logins here for me since you have nothing to hide?
I dont care because im not a pedo and I dont type degenerate shit
>im not a pedo
cringe
What's on your hard drive bud?
>if you don't want your keystrokes logged then you must have something bad on your storage device
Even dumber than the usual "privacy is for criminals" take.
Thanks for the laugh.
Nothing is more suspicious than a man who has a black hole where normality is supposed to be.
If you wanted privacy, you copy what the guy next to you is doing.
You screaming like your on a world wide privacy tour, makes you more of a target than you think bro.
moron cope, why would you care if you seem suspicions if you have nothing to hide? I don't do anything illegal, I just don't trust other people to hanle my data ethically or for it to not leak when eventually get hacked.
>I DONT DOOO ILLIGAL
Yea, okay bro.
You are not helping your case.
like i said, if you truly cared about your privacy, you would do everything like everyone else. The nail that sticks up gets the hammer. And you are not just sticking up, you have more lights coming off you than the Vegas strip.
Silence is the best privacy bro.
>if you want privacy you have to watch makeup videos on youtube and tiktok, because that's what normies do you chud
you are a moron, I spoof my browser already and websites think I'm on windows, there are no lights coming off me and if there was, what then? they are going to hack me?
Anything you say and do can and will be used against you.
Sperging out about privacy and saying
>I spoof my browser already
Puts giant neon lights over you.
if you wanted privacy, you would be silent. Instead your on a Prince Harry world wide privacy tour.
Any eyes that ignored you, will be watching you now. Your own fault really, you should have not sperged out.
> I just don't trust other people to hanle my data ethically
After what has been happening with Skitzo FOSS devs in the linux community over the last year.
Your data is safer on googles computers, than in the control of a skitzo that tries to use FOSS to settle petty arguments and feuds.
whatever skitzo shit you think there is nothing has come out of it, are you talking about that hyperland debacle? or Lutris dev saying something? I don't use any of that shit and it has nothing to do with spying.
> there is nothing has come out of it
Daniel Micay says hi and he is going to use your phones OS to get back at people posting youtube comments.
FOSS is full of nutters and needs a purge.
Google at least wont try to do life ruination over a petty argument on github.
>it wont affect me, i don't use those programs
Oh it will. A certain priest class has over taken FOSS projects. None can remain without a petty Stalin, ready to use that project for personal arguments.
At least a corpo has to comply with regulation sometimes. Skitzo FOSS devs only have to shed a username and be free after their attempts to be homosexuals get covered up and excused.
>At least a corpo has to comply with regulation sometimes
yeah, remember when they stopped microsoft from collecting and selling user's personal data?
Again, 1 company doing something is less worse than an autistic troony with access to FOSS with a grudge.
i would take 10000000 Microsofts over 1 FOSS skitzo dev.
Weaponisng node.js is an example of what an asshurt FOSS dev does.
>it will
When? In two weeks?
Less if you anger the wrong skitzo dev in a youtube comment.
Make sure you keep Daniel Micays name out ya FRICKIN MOUF
Why the frick would I post comments on YouTube?
>Daniel Micays
I don't know who that is.
>I don't know who that is.
You will come to know him.
Just keep his name out of you FRICKIN MOUF.
>You will come to know him.
I doubt it.
>[the same normie meme again]
Just go back to Facebook, dude.
>The internet is srsbusnss i get my memes from only the finest meme artisans.
LMFAO gay.
>in the control of a skitzo
the nice thing about FOSS is that things are truly in the control of the user
>You screaming
Actually the only thing I said on the subject was
and Ganker isn't one person but thanks for coping.
non issue for a normal functioning person, just use brave browser to watch porn
>he doesn't know how to disable autologger
And Linux gays are supposed to be tinkerers. Lmao
Imagine owning and having total control over your OS. Wow.
Everyone prefers windows, linuxgays are like vegans, an incredibly small minority that is incredibly loud because their entire sad lives are dedicated to begging people to join their cuck cult
>Everyone prefers windows
Have you asked anyone if they like Windows?
The majority of Windows users are Net Cafe users who have no choice of what they use, or casual users who have no preference for what they use.
This is why Valve made the Deck, in the hope that an affordable low-end PC that was easy to use would appeal to a mainstream audience.
Which it thankfully seems to be doing even if the production volume is still low in console terms.
There is a very real danger that the advent of Windows systems, running on ARM hardware, and that only run Microsoft's subscription games service out of the box, will see PC gaming as we know it collapse to a much smaller user base.
>Everyone is forced to use Windows
Fix'd for you. No one actually likes Windows but because Excel and Adobe exist, we're forced to use it. Doesn't matter if you're shit or not at computers, no one actually likes Windows. The only time people actually liked Windows was when we got XP SP2 and 7 SP1, easy to use, sane defaults, no resource hungry, and overall, good and productive UI/UX design.
How can people like modern Windows? Serious question btw. Can these people install an OS btw?
mental illness is very prevalent in todays age.
>X11
Old and broken
>Wayland
New and broken
>Windows DWM
Literally just werks
Except when it doesn't
Which is never
Tell that to all the problems I had
and yet you cant name one
vrr doesn't work if you have multiple screens
https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277
not windows
>if you have multiple screens
I don't :^)
embarrasing
>not windows
Don't lie, boy. I've used Windows.
Works on my machine
>vrr doesn't work if you have multiple screens
That isn't true. VRR on X doesn't work if you have one "fullscreen" window on one monitor in a multi monitor setup. It works if you have one monitor or if you fullscreen your window across all monitors.
so it doesnt work lol
It does work. VRR can only work on fullscreen windows and Xorg draws one window for the desktop, so you get VRR when you fullscreen the application regardless of how many monitors you have. Because of Xorgs core design you can't run a fullscreen window on a single monitor. I'm pretty sure that Xorg doesn't support exclusive fullscreen or compositor unredirection on one out of several monitors, for the same reason.
VRR is only broken on wayland, because it uses the atomic modesetting kernel api for the mouse cursor, so monitor refresh rate is synced to the cursor instead of the game/video output. Regardless, VRR is a gimmick anyway. If you can't run a game at a stable framerate buy a better gpu or turn down settings.
>It does work.
It doesn't work.
>VRR can only work on fullscreen windows and Xorg draws one window for the desktop, so you get VRR when you fullscreen the application regardless of how many monitors you have.
Having to disable secondary displays for VRR isn't "working".
>Having to disable secondary displays for VRR
You don't. You run the application in true fullscreen mode across all monitors to get VRR, rather than using single monitor "fullscreen" mode which is treated as subwindow rendering by x.
>You run the application in true fullscreen mode across all monitors to get VRR
Rendering your secondary display useless. So it doesn't work.
As someone who's actually used multiple monitors, the secondary in a 2 monitor setup mostly stays idle when gaming on a single monitor fullscreen setup. It's convenient to be able to mouse across to content on another screen but there's not much difference between that and alt-tabbing. Dual monitor setups were obsoleted by mass production 4k monitors (unless you do 2x4k) and triple monitors are glorified ultrawide so you'd probably fullscreen across all monitors anyway.
>10 times smaller corpo (red hat)
IBM owns red hat dude.
>under proprietary license (steamos/steam)
You don't know what that means.
>without even trying to improve anything or contribute to development
Valve funds the majority of work on
>dxvk
>vkd3d
>radv
by employing the devs as contractors.
>the secondary in a 2 monitor setup mostly stays idle when gaming on a single monitor fullscreen setup.
No, I have my chats up, sometimes a stream and I tab in and out when there's downtime.
Not being able to see my extra shit is a downgrade. Stop defending this shit it's fricking pathetic.
This is the difference between winjeets and troonix users. Winjeets can admit windows is shit. You're literally defending not being able to use a second display.
Deny yourself.
>No, I have my chats up, sometimes a stream
I didn't realize I was replying to a discord troony zoomer groomer.
IBM has been a platinum sponsor of the linux kernel foundation and various events for at least a decade lmao.
>how's that called when a $10 billion corporation uses free software in their paid products
Libre software winning.
>I didn't realize I was replying to a discord troony zoomer groomer.
I realised it because you're an upset troonix user.
Dunno man, X11 just werks for me.
Wrong board
X11 works just fine here as well.
Everything is broken
>Display driver crashes on Windows
>DWM recovers gracefully
>Display driver crashes on Linux
>Display manager completey restarts, all your programs get killed
>display manager/server having any say over what software is running
sounds like a windows moron to me
manager/server having any say over what software is running
sound like a troonyware called wayland tho
>be windows
>get installed on machine with more than 1 storage drive
>blue screen because my owner knows I don't like being installed on machines that way
>owner formats everything but I still give him blue screens
>owner removes 2nd drive and reinstalls me
>why would he hide that data from me? frick him im gonna blue screen
>owner decided to slow format both drives and reinstall me
>moron tries 2 drives again, I can't believe him
>tech savvyness of the average lintard
sorry to burst ur bubble babe but this is a reciting of a windows users troubleshooting on yahoo answers. It's common knowledge that Windows has given issues when put on a system with 2 empty storage devices since win7, continuing to blue screen even if updated through every major release.
weird, I've never had that issue, I think you might just be a little slow
>Nothing works, no one is interested and only people still talking about this are shills
Works on my machine. And how the frick do you shill a thing that is free?
>uuhh uuuhh uhhh how can you shill something if it's free huh duuurrrrrrr
How can people shill raid shadow legends if it's free?
So Linux is pay-to-win?
considering linuxgays have a reputation for buying literally anything linux compatible to garner more support, in a way yes.
>linuxgays have a reputation for buying literally anything linux compatible
What the frick are you talking about?
.
lets frickin goooooo
Some games on windows still break if you alt+tab away from them. Too bad gamescope doesn't work on windows.
Happened to me the other day with Frostpunk on Arch. Feels bad man
Yeah! You said it. Windows gets better and better with every release. Microsoft can do no wrong.
I just got off a months long test drive of Arch. I went back to Windows in the end because of:
>Steam Big Picture Mode
I enjoy sitting on my couch to play games on my TV. To do this, I've run a 50ft HDMI cable from my PC to said TV.
In Windows, Steam can auto-swap my primary screen to he TV when I enter big picture mode. You can't do that with Linux. The setting to do so through steam doesn't exist.
>Spoofing resolutions
My monitor is a Samsung G9, which has a resolution of 5120x1440. It does not natively support a 4K resolution.
A good work-around for the Steam Big Picture problem would be to stream my games to my Steam Deck in it's dock with the TV as an external display for it. Using my PC as the host would essentially just be using my steam deck as a middle man.
This doesn't work due to the fact that I would have to play at 1440p to get the 16:9 aspect ratio instead of being able to play my games at the TV's native 4K.
To my knowledge, there is no way to "Fake" resolutions in wayland currently. Xrandr works in X11, though.
>To my knowledge, there is no way to "Fake" resolutions in wayland currently.
Gamescope is the solution to all your problems.
moron
same
i use win7 not troonix
Smart of you to try.
then how come I'm using it right now nerd
I'm just lazy to switch to Linux and i stick with Windows because convenience.
One day I'll swap
Reminder that there's no downside at all to dual booting Linux. On the rare occasion something doesn't work you can just boot back into windows. It's easy as frick to install Mint. Try it out and you'll realize how much of a bloated piece of shit Windows has become, it's like you have your own computer again.
I am shilling for free for the free and open source software.
That's not shilling it's just talking about something you like
lutris
steam
bottles
all these made gaming on linux more difficult. i can't get shit to work with those.
i use playonlinux. it just works.
wined3d just works
i have had nothing but bad experiences with dxvk(vulkan). games do not play well with vulkan contrary to what people say
i play old games anyway so vulkan is not really necessary
>scarface
Haven't played that since PS2 and I never knew that got a PC port. How is it?
>The Steam TOS don't override the GPL
Thoughbeit most of the stuff valve funds is licensed with MIT or similar licenses.
https://github.com/HoloISO/holoiso
>https://github.com/HoloISO/holoiso
>Is this official?
>No, but it may as well be 99% of the way there
great
>What part of free don't you understand?
sounds like free as in "free beer for gabe" to me
>Proton isn't a paid product
skipping the part where you need proprietary steam to use it
>skipping the part where you need proprietary steam to use it
https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/wine-ge-custom
isn't a paid product
>skipping the part where you need proprietary steam to use it
Why are you blatantly moving goalposts? Paid doesn't mean proprietary. It means you have to pay for it. You don't have to pay for Steam. I do not care if it's proprietary. That fact has nothing to do with my earlier posts. Proton is not a paid product and neither is Steam.
>Why are you blatantly moving goalposts?
what did i move saying that "proton" isn't "wine"? yeah, if i want to use wine i'll use wine, if i want to use "proton" (not some downstream fork), i need steam. what's so difficult to understand here?
Your failed rebuttal to "Proton isn't a paid product" was to point out that Steam is proprietary. That is how you moved the goalposts. Now you're moving the goalposts again by pretending that we're discussing whether Proton and Wine are the same thing.
I accept your concession.
>corporation uses free software in their paid products
>Proton isn't a paid product
>Your failed rebuttal to "Proton isn't a paid product"
still don't remember calling "proton" a "paid product". paid product is steamdeck, also iirc you can't add non-steam games without a single purchase on your account, which technically makes "proton" a paid product as a part of proprietary software (steam)
>I accept your concession
nah, let's continue
>still don't remember calling "proton" a "paid product".
And yet, further down in the same post, you do. Wrong anyway, but...
>paid product is steamdeck
You don't need Steam Deck in order to use Proton.
>also iirc you can't add non-steam games without a single purchase on your account
Made-up nonsense.
>which technically makes "proton" a paid product
Wrong per above.
>as a part of proprietary software (steam)
Steam being proprietary is still irrelevant.
>And yet, further down in the same post, you do. Wrong anyway, but...
care to link the post? i still doubt that happened
>You don't need Steam Deck in order to use Proton
moving the goalpost
>Made-up nonsense
not an argument
>Wrong per above
look up what "technically" means
>Steam being proprietary is still irrelevant
surely it's irrelevant when the entire discussion was about valve corporation utilizing free software in their proprietary software (steam)
>care to link the post?
The post to which I was replying, hence "same post", stupid.
>which technically makes "proton" a paid product
you implied i called "proton" a paid product before i made this post calling it "technically a paid product" though
Yes, I did infer your level of stupidity before you put it on full display.
Your incorrect view of Proton as a paid product was heavily implied when you too issue with the fact that I said it wasn't one:
isn't a paid product
>skipping the part where you need proprietary steam to use it
Why even post that if not to imply that Steam being proprietary makes Proton a paid product? Anyway, Proton is free and you're coping.
>was heavily implied
>if not to imply
hilarious cope bro. better go troll some ex win toddlers at Ganker
If it wasn't at all relevant to the original argument why would you even bring it up as a reply? Are you incapable of understanding how conversations work? Do you not know what the cooperative principle is? Might as well have replied with "you can use bacon grease to cook" and it'd have had the same effect as far as being part of a conversation. Actually, it would be the same if your reply was as truthful as the bacon comment, but you can use proton with lutris, so bacon is better
>Are you incapable of understanding how conversations work?
yeah i know, you make up shit and then claim your opponent said that, when the opponent denies he ever said that, then you claim he heavily implied that, correct?
>you
That was my first reply to you
"you" is just a figure of speech, i'm not calling myself "me" there, but you sound really defensive about it
Bro, I hate to break it to you, but you are still not proving that Valve's use of free software is theft.
>you are still not proving
didn't even try, i'm not a foss lawyer to fight off corpo bottlickers but given there's no official cases of that, it's obviously an impossible task
>Haven't played that since PS2 and I never knew that got a PC port. How is it?
it's been good. i am almost done with it
it's known to crash a lot on windows. i haven't really had this problem playing it on ubuntu. i think i had one winedb error within the 21 hours of gameplay.
>bottles
it's literally moron proof, even less hassle than with proton
i tried installing something with bottles and the installer wouldn't work. it kept freezing.
i was able to install it with playonlinux
installers use a lot of shit dependencies like some specific versions of dotnet, other shit repacks like fitgirl use compressions algorithms that somewhat frick with memory. so yeah, repacks are huge pain in the ass. scene releases work a lot better
I like it but I had trouble using it for the first time. The UI could be improved and Flatpak also comes with some permissions-related hurdles. Once you've figured out which button does what and how to give Flatpak the permissions it needs to access the executables you're trying to run, it's pretty good, but I can definitely imagine Windows babies getting filtered by it. Of course, they also get filtered by things like adding execute permission to shell scripts. lol
>i have had nothing but bad experiences with dxvk(vulkan).
Nvidia?
It is absolutely shocking how people don't understand how different operating systems work or why they work differently.
You are on Ganker.
My PC is near the ends of its life and for some reason that makes me want to give Linux a go
As long as your GPU supports Vulkan, Linux is worth trying for an old PC
i'd say it's not wroth it unless you lost software support you need for your os, like chrome or steam for example
Is it new enough for Vulkan? You'll have a miserable experience if not.
If it has an AMD card, then yes it probably would be.
Even if it is a pre-GCN card you won't get Vulkan but you will get better D3D9 support than Windows. There are people working on Vulkan support for them, but it will be a sort of reverse engineering job making the hardware do things it wasn't designed for like the implementation for Nvidia's 10 series hardware.
If it has an older Nvidia card, then it probably wouldn't be worth it, unless you have the budget for, and are comfortable with sticking a recent low-end AMD GPU into it.
*took
Not an argument
You lost
when can we expect steamOS for desktops
it's just arch but with features you don't want in a desktop OS
Gaymers will not install Arch
no sooner than NVK 1.0.
As soon as there's a mature open source NVK driver. The majority of gamers are on Nvidia.
This guy is dreaming, NVK won't be ready for another 2 years and that's being optimistic.
When Steam Machines get a second coming.
SteamOS is just Arch with a Gamemode "VM"
Strange way to say almost everything works now.
I looked up the etymology of Debian and it makes me despair nowadays. I'm surprised it and Arch are considered to be the best nowadays.
I am on Debian Sid. Look it up. Basically a rolling release.
I turn off my computer sometimes, sue me.
>I turn off my computer sometimes, sue me.
you know computers have a sleep mode right? ahhh shit you're on linux nevermind
Not him but I turn off my computer every night. Why wouldn't I turn it off? A gaming PC is not a server. Linux is used for servers, though, so no amount of coping and seething about my uptime being measured in hours instead of weeks will change the fact that I could leave it on for days if I wanted my electricity bill to be higher for no practical benefit.
Yes, I do let it sleep most nights. Sometimes I turn it off. I don't see an issue here.
>4 days
I thought linux is reliable?
The funny part is you can actually leave a Debian system running for basically as long as you want but Windows WILL force restart your pc at least once a month to apply updates
>491 Processes
wtf is running on your machine? 125 processes here with firefox and a stream running.
Somehow can't get a single GPU passthrough VM to work any longer. For the fricking life of me I don't know what's wrong my guess is some misplaced key or something but at a glance nothing looks wrong. I am probably just going to reinstall my distro and start from scratch. See you guys in a bit.
i cant fw desktop linux due to nvidia,so i game on a cucked w11 install and have my steam deck. next card will be amd for sure. i think nvidia driver frickery and eac are holding linux back
If I HAD to use windows I would use Win10. Why are you using Win11?
If you are going to suck a dick you might as well swallow too.
already upgraded from 10 at release to try it out and just stayed there since atleast on my hardware, there was no performance difference or weird issues. that being said, i did fix the context menu fast as possible and disabled ads lol
that's the price of not getting cpu with iGPU, mesa drivers work perfectly for desktop, and just to run games vulkan support on nvidia is fine
wow i totally forgot i installed a cpu months ago with igpu, i should give linux another go knowing this.
good luck
am i actually using mangohud correctly? is this how everyone does it?
>PlayOnLinux
what year is it
playonlinux works
lutris and steam are homosexualry
Either a bunch of people got memed into using it somehow, or he's been posting a lot.
I thought about trying it myself once, because it looked like it provided an easy way to use older Wine versions, but the project seemed pretty much abandoned.
People used it to install steam before there was a native linux client or any other options really. It was shit ten years ago and it never ever improved.
>It was shit ten years ago and it never ever improved.
You are talking about most things about Linux gaming.
WINE for years stalled and dragged their feet on game support. Then when DXVK came about they got all pissy because now nobody will give them ass pats for shit level work.
Thing is projects like WINE and other stuff in the FOSS linux gaming space. Until someone 1 ups them the devs are lazy. They always need some hotshot to give them a boot up the ass. Either Valve or the kid who made DXVK.
>wined3d
bro just use bottles
>is this how everyone does it?
Yeah if they're using OpenGL. On Vulkan you just need the environment variable MANGOHUD=1
you can't use vulkan with some old games
there is no reason to use dxvk with old games that run perfectly without it
>>you can't use vulkan with some old games
Zink is there to convert OGL to VK. It works with most things already.
scarface runs on dx9 tho
i actually find that old games run worse with vulkan
It is going to depend on what API the older game used, and what card you have.
For newer AMD cards, you're still better off using RadeonSI for OpenGL games.
For older AMD cards for D3D9 games, there still may be a benefit to using Gallium Nine.
For Nvidia users, unless you're on the absolute latest hardware generation, your card is still faking a lot of Vulkan features using slower work arounds, and you also don't really have many other options.
I want a few desktop screenshots from you people, it's like crack to me.
https://files.catbox.moe/w6jdf8.png
>try to get 7th heaven mod manger working
>It is all coded to require fricking .net bullshit
>install all that bullshit with protontricks
>does not see it
>Wont launch without it.
if you play scarface on pc with a controller, you have to use the fusion patch to fix the controls.
you can't fix the controls yourself because of some glitch that fricks up the controls. you have to keep the default controls
and then use the fusion patch to fix them
without the patch, the shoot button is on the left and the target button is the right. the fusion patch fixes this
playing old console games on pc is such a pain in the ass
wonder what kind of frickery i'm gonna run into when my chink controller gets here. anyone use the vader 3 pro on linux?
bluetooth? usually chink gamepads work fine, they use some stock x360 scheme
comes with its own dongle. never had a wireless controller before so i expect something to go horribly wrong.
If it has its own dongle, either that dongle is a bluetooth adapter, which should generally just work there aren't that many chips cheap adapters would be based on.
If it uses a proprietary wireless adapter but that uses standard USB controller interfaces, then to the OS it should look just like any other USB controller, in which case it is also extremely likely to just work.
Its a knock off 360 controller.
Should work fine had a number of them through the years.
If you want to get a more premium controller go for the 8bitdo sn30 pro.
and anons get angry whenever 8bitdo gets shilled, whenever it just works (although chink software doesn't). anyway, it should work, only gamepad i had problems with was some wired chink dualshock 3, xinput didn't work, dinput mode did
>shills
>for a free open source platform
OP is a fricking moron
Its possible to shill for something without a profit motive, but OP is still moronic.
scarface is actually worse on windows. it's known to crash a lot on windows(based on the experiences of windows users on youtube) which is why people prefer to play it on ps2. a lot of people couldn't get the pc port of the game to start.
for me it crashed only once out of the 26 hours of gameplay while playing it on ubuntu LTS. i think that was due to the fact that i had another game running that i forgot to exit.i had it minimized
i think linux is great, and for some older games it actually runs better than windows, but FRICK using it for gaming in general. the only linux gaming i’ll be doing is on the steamdeck because thats been so brainlet streamlined even i can use it so i’m happy.
>using it for gaming in general
but there's nothing wrong with it unless you play AAA shit or bad indies
it's better than using windows and often comes with the safety net of removing shit game devs by purely filtering them from not being able to run on a different operating system
>steam deck runs game fine and cutscenes
>but desktop linux? nope no cutscenes because dev is a piece of shit whose lazy and does not care
that penguin is going to get a redesign one day and a lot of people are going to get upset about it
i tried doing this to get protype to run
it still crashes
frick you pcgamingwiki
protoype*
It's a shit game, you don't need to play it.
play TIH UD instead
it gets to here and then crashes lmao
i'll try to run it with lutris
Impossible.
said PlayOnLinux just works.
lol
it usually does. occasionally it doesn't. to be fair prototype doesn't work with windows either. it's more of a windows issue than a playonlinux issue
>playonlinux
that has been deprecate for more than 2 years now, wtf are you doing, just use bottles.
>protype
https://www.nexusmods.com/prototype/mods/52
also use literally anything but PoL. Try lutris or heroic.
It's coming.
Why don't you use GNU/Linux lmao. Give me 1 good reason that isn't muh ADOBE or some gay Black person shit
because Windows 10 LTSC just works
i only use shittux for laptops where I can get a superior battery life
Fair. I close my case.
To be fair, the only reason required is "I don't want to."
Incidentally that's the same reason I don't use Windows.
>linux users: "oh u can do this-this-this-and-this if u just-"
no, i just wanna install my os and start using it, im not typing terminal commands or cucking my software and peripheral compatability. thanks tho!
No offense but no one really cares that you don't use a free thing. Just don't use it. If it sucks so much then simply not using it solves your problem and you shouldn't need to cry about it.
so many linux users get mad when u post a screenshot and they notice ur on windows and try their best to berate u lol
if you installed gentoo that wouldn't be an issue, zoomer
>u
opinion discarded
>no, i just wanna install my os and start using it
Linux installs way faster than Windows. Windows 10 takes ages and when it finishes you still have to open Edge and download the web browser you really want.
>when it finishes you still have to open Edge and download the web browser you really want
you can use winget now
wonder where they got that idea from
nice, using good linux ideas on an actual good OS
it's nice that they copied virtual desktops too
yeah duh, using the terminal on windows is still painful
winget is a meme and windows installers will never be as good as Linux packages
>Fix linux!
>How?
>By making it windows!
If you are using Linux, you already made the choice to not use windows, therefore, you either get used to how Linux does shit or use Windows.
>obligated to use software such as corel draw and photoshop
well, if you owned the license for them, you probably could contact adobe support and ask for linux port. unfortunately you use pirated software
how did you know?
werks on me machine
>post was typed by poo fingers contracted for Microsoft
I found what I like the most about Linux is the terminal. Something that I can have with Windows Subsystem for Linux. I don't have major issues with Linux but I have too many minor ones that just stack up and makes me miss how little issues I had with Windows. I'm just going to stick with Windows until Linux gets fleshed out more and all the shit inflated ego drama in FOSS goes away. I'll leave Linux for my Steamdeck and my chink laptop I hardly use anymore.
Debian is god tier.
Everything not Debian (or Debian-based) is troony tier.
I am right and there is nothing you can do or say to prove me wrong.
/simple as
/thread
/my post best post
/pwnd
>takes months to update the kernel to support latest GPUs even on Testing
>drops support for "legacy" 3-4 years old GPUs every year to cater to the "stability" meme
>if you are lucky and your hardware is still supported you have to use non-free repositories to use all it's features, which kills the entire idea of Debian
Frick off, you illiterates redditor.
I accept your concession
Valvechads should have used BSD, Loonosexs are ungrateful bunch.
>cuck license
perfect for Valvebull
I have GTX 970. Is it worth to convert?
No, you're going to be disappointed and first impressions mean a lot.
what do you suuggest for an upgrade?
Depends on your budget obviously. AMD RX 6000 or 7000 series. 6700 XT maybe?
>shills
>for community maintained FOSS
good morning saar.
>silver
not migrating until all the games work perfectly
better get on it linnies
>latest wine version tested: 6.0
dead coomer game, there's thousands of similar shovelware released every year
Rapelay is historically significant due to the controversy it caused.
Is this the linux thread? Haven't seen one in a while.
GTA 3 and Vice City have problems. The RE3 port doesn't work with simple texture mods, it just crashes. Running through proton/wine is fine, even fully modded, but I get weird hitches every now and then as well as a weird misalignment of polygons on buildings only a pixel wide which is unnoticeable but kinda annoying if you catch it. Anybody experience this or have advice?
No problems with any other games ever since the steam deck came out so it's weird only these gta games have issues.
I had a problem with a crash when using rocket launcher in GTA3. It was fixed by using the 1.0 executable. This was the old version no longer sold in Steam and everyone were complaining it having problems with that being the fix. It depends what version of GTA3 you're trying to run.
Where are my arch @ cachyos repos bros at?
Is it just me but i kinda see that penguin as overweight beer belly fatneck sitting on a couch....
>nothing works
every game i've tried to play in the past year has run on linux. i finished armored core 6, sekiro, front mission 1st remake, axiom verge, and unavowed. i played cs2, quake, quake live, quake champions, ace combat 7, cyberpunk 2077, remnant, and a bunch more. i haven't had a single problem playing any games on linux so far.
oh yeah, i played dragon quest 11 and trials of mana, too.
>can't play pirated games
yeah, linux is the biggest DRM enabler
what do you mean? You can
not this shit again.
Try to unpack or install codex games or any other installer versions and linux shits itself unable to do it.
You need GOG tier games with no DRM to work on linux.
there is literally a solution and you are just banging your head on the wall, refusing to adapt
there isn't, I'v posted in 2 fricking linux threads now and every time it goes like this
>there is no problem
>yes there is
>prove it
>here is the proof
>but we need more information
>it literally has an error code and shit
>well you expect us to fix it for you tard?!
>nobodys fixed it so far
>YOU ARE JSUT TROLLING AND MAKING IT UP EVERYTHING JUJST WORKS ON LINUX
and then repeat the next thread.
I still haven't managed to install/unpack those games on linux, while it just works on windows.
And yes, the linuxgays literally suggested I rely on windows to unpack/install the games so I can run them on linux as a solution.
But then.... why would I use linux to play them
fitgirls stuff works for on my machine. How about you actually start troubleshooting instead of screaming around
Works on my machine, try to raise your IQ above 60 before considering moving to linux.
as always....
seethe && cope && touch grass && stay on windows
You're a moron, you know that right? There are pirated games that are the equivalent of noinstall of the old days and all you have to do is unzip them to your game folder and even comes packed with .net distributables. Having to use codex or fitgirl is 2014 tier.
>You're a moron, you know that right?
you can't fix it either moron, which is why nobody in the linux threads has given a way to fix it
> There are pirated games that are the equivalent of noinstall of the old days and all you have to do is unzip them to your game folder
NOT EVERY FRICKING GAME HAS THAT!!!! THE SAME WAY NOT EVERY GAME HAS A FRICKING GOG VERSION YOU ABSOLUTE SWINE!
>NOT EVERY FRICKING GAME HAS THAT!!!!
Works for me, moron. Get working sources instead of using old shitty pirate sites.
Also, I'm on windows 11 Edu. You have a serious skill issue.
>Nothing works
I rarely run into any games that don't work perfectly, and the ones that don't can almost always be easily fixed with minor tweaking.
>but but muh anti-cheat games don't work
Don't play online multiplayer slop like Fortnite and Apex Legends, moron. The only game with anti-cheat that will ever matter (War Thunder) works fine on the Deck's SteamOS too so I'm sure it works on the other popular distros as well.
>I rarely run into any games that don't work perfectly,
that speaks of the games you play rather than the OS compatibility with games.
Some games run just fine. Some games just don't, lot of games have problems
>but but muh anti-cheat games don't work
>Don't play online multiplayer slop
as always
>everything just works what are ytou talking about
>this thing doesn't work
>why do you want that thing, you shouldn't want that thing, don't want that thing, anyway as I Was saying everything just works
completely dishonest delusion
Because the distros are run by autists, lefties, loonies and trannies.
which ones are the autist, but not lefty, loony or troony?
I don't know. Listen the point is that you can't trust this people to make a functioning OS.
sho-sho, go crawl into a tunnel like a rat and seethe there israelite, your chutzpah is useless here
You will never be a real desktop OS.
Been maining penguin os for 15 years now I think. NixOS is the end game. First it started out of curiosity, then I realized the freedom, then it gave me easy high paying job, and now it can even game.
>Bocchi the reddit
Go back.
Anime board
>Valve still hasn't updated proton with new wine version which has fixes for mod organiser 2
I just want to finally play and finish Oblivion properly this time.
Because only morons want to use linux