is the original worth playing? played it for an hour back in the day and it felt like a generic knock off fantasy game without anything to call its own
it splits opinion, but the original DD is one of my favorite video games of all time. the world is small but I find it very immersive and fun to explore, although you do see all there is to see pretty quick. to me, the mechanics and gameplay, while simple, are fun enough that the world size isn't that big a problem.
if you're really uncertain, just wait for a sale, and if you do pick it up, go into it open minded. it rewards experimenting
yes
the setting may be generic but mechanically its a very strange and unique game with fantastic combat and boss fights, thats also heavily flawed and unfinished.
it took me 2 attempts for it to click, then i sunk over 70 hours into it. its often said that its the most 10/10 6/10 game you'll ever play. keep that in mind.
it splits opinion, but the original DD is one of my favorite video games of all time. the world is small but I find it very immersive and fun to explore, although you do see all there is to see pretty quick. to me, the mechanics and gameplay, while simple, are fun enough that the world size isn't that big a problem.
if you're really uncertain, just wait for a sale, and if you do pick it up, go into it open minded. it rewards experimenting
Can you explore complex areas stuff or is it just going to the same places again and again?
the map is pretty empty and samey
but then at the same time there actually are unique things to find, but its like timed specific shit where you have to be doing a certain quest and be in the right place at the right time to trigger a unique event. there are entire dungeons and secret areas that need some obscure ass sidequest to access
you have beaches, fields/forests, a kinda sorta dryland area in the east, and a snowy area up north. all that you mostly find are enemy mobs and trash random loot.
i truly cant give a yes or no to that question. the game is like schrodingers cat. its in a superposition of being complete dogshit and amazing at the same time
>but its like timed specific shit where you have to be doing a certain quest and be in the right place at the right time to trigger a unique event.
I really really really really hate that, cause it means i gave to play with a guide.
you don't have to
its not the kind of game where you are going to see everything in 1 playthrough
also when i say timed, its not like you have a 2 hour timer on quests or something. there are certain milestones throughout the main quest that lock off previous side quests, and the world changes after them. one of them changes the world pretty drastically
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah ill pass, i dont really like to replay games for new content because the new content uou see is usually not worth the time. You kight getcmaybe 20% new content on a replay.
It's a rough gem. Worth a playthrough. If fighting the troll at the fort did nothing at all for you, by all means give it up. If you even went a little bit 'that was kinda neat/fun' then stick with it.
It's one of the most 6/10 games ever made. If you love it, you love it. >a generic knock off fantasy game without anything to call its own
It's definitely not this, though.
I don't know but it's like 5 bucks on steam right now so I'm going to buy it even if I know absoultely nothing about it. Wish me luck ddgays, I'm sure nothing will be wong.
>generic knock off fantasy game without anything to call its own
thats definitely the average first impression, but its totally wrong, you simply didnt see enough of the game
I'm glad DDgays are getting a sequel but after 36 hours I couldn't stomach how generic the setting was, which is a shame because I hear the ending and NG+ endings are wicked sick and do the whole "cycle" thing with kino finesse.
It is absolutely worth it and the game is on sale right now with all dlc for like $5. Just play it for what it is with no guide, but avoid Bitterblack Isle until you're sufficiently leveled. The BBI content alone is more than worth the 5 bucks. You also don't need to get too autistic with character creation because you can redo yourself and your main pawn one time on your first playthrough if you get sick of your look, then unlimited times on NG+
It really takes a good, good few hours to settle into it. I had to clear the tutorial with Savan AND then the opening with the player character up until reaching the major city AND pick up my first major quest in the city AND get like half way through said quest before the game REALLY clicked
But once it did I was hooked and was playing it every waking moment until finish
>IT'S BIGGER THEREFORE IT'S BETTER
None of this shit matters if you have barely anything to do like in DD1. Time and time again you see how shit massive open worlds are in games but you still don't learn. If he said that the map was 4 times denser then maybe I would be hyped.
It's funny that moronic zoomers and young millennials think that people give a shit about their inane open world b***hing in DD threads of all places. You don't know anything about video game design. No one cares about your armchair critique.
The adventure is the first time, not the 5th, 20th or 50th
11 months ago
Anonymous
A real man never tires of adventure
11 months ago
Anonymous
Commuting isn't adventuring
11 months ago
Anonymous
It is when there's beasts to slay and goodies to collect. I think you need to find a soul, my man.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah the same two beasts and horde of goblins
Yaay
11 months ago
Anonymous
You just don't have an adventurous spirit, that's your problem, anon.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I blame decades of soul sucking open meme games
11 months ago
Anonymous
do you srsly think they wont' put in side stuff to do, this is a man's dream game. There is no way itsuno wouldn't go all out for his dream
11 months ago
Anonymous
>dream game.
jesus, you guys really dont aim high
11 months ago
Anonymous
and you must not be able to read. I quite literally say this is itsuno's dream game in the post.
He threatened to quit capcom if he couldn't make it and has wanted to fully realize its potential for years.
You are either moronic or esl
Some people just don't get it. Constant monster attacks every 5 feet is not what would happen on a fantasy adventure. The relative scarcity versus ubishit games and Bethesda trash is a HUGE plus. It makes it feel that much more real and exciting. DD2 is gonna be fricking amazing bros I can't wait
night time can be scary tho
side tangent how the frick do i stop Chrome from downloading every gay fricking pic as wepb or whatever that frick it... oh just change the file name when you save it, doesn't work perfectly and i don't want to ahve to do that extra step
>le heckin wholesome chungus comfy
What is with frogposters and constantly emasculating themselves? I understand they get tortured and raped for 100% of their entire lifetime but they ought to have SOME dignity.
I don't want it to be denser. I don't want it to be a modern day open world game where every thirty seconds it has to throw some dopamine at you. I loved how each journey was its own reward, and you spent a lot of time just going back and forth from Gran Soren. If anything, I hope they intensify this and make night travel even more dangerous.
Can ddgays explain why they don't want coop without throwing a tantrum? Is it just contrarianism? Or do they really think having a player companion as opposed to an AI companion would completely ruin the game?
Honestly I'd be fine with it in theory, but if it did happen it'd mean a huge shift in priorities and less attention paid to things SP players care about. Japs are notoriously shit at netcode as well.
>a mode >a huge shift in priorities
Why would enabling a player controlled pawn (or w.e.) in a game already balanced around a party warrant creating a new mode?
Online multi-player with randoms hasn't been fun since 2012 and who the frick do I know irl that's going to playthrough dd2 with me
So ddgays just dont have friends? is that really it?
I've never made a game so maybe you're right, but trannies upload coop mods to Nexus all the time, so the extent to which it would strain the development team of a multi-million dollar budget AAA seems greatly exaggerated.
It would change the whole game. >Minmaxgays become the norm instead of a suggestion. >It opens the door to all kinds of GaaS bullshit. >People will ask for PvP, and if it gets PvP it will ruin the whole game just like any multiplayer From Software game.
>Minmaxgays become the norm instead of a suggestion. >It opens the door to all kinds of GaaS bullshit.
Why does coop mean match-making and party-finders to you morons? Stop playing Destiny 2. >People will ask for PvP
...
I don't want to play with *you* anon. I want to play with a fictional catgirl princess not some neckbeard from Ganker
>I don't have friends
that seems to be a common response
I want 4 homies in a line not 4 homies online.
upvoted
The spirit of cooperative play is dead.
You will just get zoomies racing from one quest to another, playing the most hyper-optimal arisen/pawn combo, and the most """co-op""" moment you might get is fighting a big monster together or bumping into each other at town.
Keeping it a pure, single player adventure won't dilute or gamify the experience, you get more invested in pawns and their growth, and you experience the world at your own pace.
Honestly, co-op/multiplayergays and ESPECIALLY pvpgays deserve to be btfo and left behind
>he thinks coop in a party-based single-player game would turn it into an MMO
I concede DDgays. This is truly one of the most moronic fanbases I have ever interacted with.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Those games aren't very complex or already have some measure of online ability either in other modes or on an engine level
Best just hope those "trannies" throw you a bone on this one if they're your measure of competence
It's strange how fricking pissed off get about even the concept of co op later down the line, after the main game is fully refined
The idea of inviting your friends over to play dragon's dogma with you causes so much seething and shitflinging it's absurd, I guess it's just because there's always a lot of shitposters after any event, but there's almost no nuance in this thread. Like you mentioned about matchmaking, who the FRICK actually thinks co op would be forced and it would force you to play with randoms? How would that even work?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cool you can go now
11 months ago
Anonymous
What are your opinions homosexual? Come on, engage in some motherfricking conversation. Let me hear your thoughts.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Co op isnt happening, bye bye.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Correct, I'm glad they're focusing on the single player. I want it to be the best it will be. I'm arguing that co op would not be nearly as disastrous as you think it would be if added later down the line, which it likely won't. Instead they'll probably make something akin to BBI, Which was the best part of dd1.
No one wants to talk with doomposting discordtroons. You guys are irrelevant, the game is not for you, good. Frick off.
>doomposting
What? The games going to be great regardless of co op. I just think it would be fun if properly implemented. I would rather no co op than shitty half assed co op.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>conversing with normalgays
Man, you people are out in droves since reddit stopped for two days huh?
11 months ago
Anonymous
https://www.gamesradar.com/best-co-op-games/
11 months ago
Anonymous
No one wants to talk with doomposting discordtroons. You guys are irrelevant, the game is not for you, good. Frick off.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>"Why do you guys hate coop so much" >DOOOOOOOOOOM POOOOOOOSTINGGGGGGG
Whats the deal with you homosexuals? Seriously?
11 months ago
Anonymous
engage in some motherfricking conversation
Okay DIE
11 months ago
Anonymous
Explain why you want to ruin Itsuno's vision first when you could just go play Monster Hunter.
11 months ago
Anonymous
nta, I would give my left nut to just use AI pawns in monster hunter, even the most pajeet coded AI would be smarter then some of the fricking randoms I get for hunts
11 months ago
Anonymous
Didn't Rise implement followers?
11 months ago
Anonymous
The AI companions on Sunbreak mog your average random co-op player
11 months ago
Anonymous
>explain why you want to play a good game made better and not a pile of shit
Should be obvious
11 months ago
Anonymous
None of you gays when asked could explain how coop would ruin 'Itsuno's vision', and I personally don't see how coop would do that either.
I think its inclusion is a no-brainer for a game like this, but I'll buy it anyway even without coop.
11 months ago
Anonymous
coop will be moddable since it's RE Engine, just like DMC5:
11 months ago
Anonymous
You never listen. Itsuno designed the game based on BBS boards where your pawns are your posts online. That's why the game updated your pawns whenever you went to the inn. You gays always ignore that shit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Didn't his original vision have a tower that connected the worlds of different arisen
11 months ago
Anonymous
Any time not spent on the single player experience of this game or adding and refining mechanics directly related to how battles work is time wasted.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I agree, As much as I would like co op, even if implemented later they would have to do it in favor of expanding the games content with single player DLC.
In all honesty, I would prefer they go all in with singleplayer DLC. I just don't think co op would ruin the game forever and make it shit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
that's great man stay away from the game
11 months ago
Anonymous
Now that you know that the game isn't for you, you should consider making like a tree and fricking off.
>So ddgays just dont have friends? is that really it?
the fact that you have to ask shows you really don't care about it.
however i'll explain a bit what's with this discordhomosexual wars. >fromgays kept shitposting in DD threads >they notice it gained traction >hey double down on stupid by saying no forced homosexual coop or pvp mpshit from fromsoft >DD2 is announced >discord homosexuals organize to keep posting the same shit as old >some anons repel it with the video of itsuno saying it's about a SP experience >discordhomosexuals notice this and start to post against coop to imply DDchads are friendlets >this shit keeps going on and now it's a baitwar between coop homosexuals and anti coop homosexuals >they always imply it'll be fromsoft shit as they always say the devs will focus change it
here we are but TLDR is that discord homosexuals ruin everything that is fun, hope it helped.
He's a moron but making the game work over a network and properly synchronize everything would be a rather large draw on the team
I personally wouldn't mind controlling my pawn on someone else's adventure as long as that's the extent of it and doesn't detract from the single player experience. Not interested in pvp meta shit getting in the way of my comfy fantasy adventure. We already have endless souls clones for that vibe
>diverts resources
The guy making online infrastructure is not the guy designing dungeons. Besides the actual brunt of the work is already handled by the games existing class design.
Honestly I'd be fine with it in theory, but if it did happen it'd mean a huge shift in priorities and less attention paid to things SP players care about. Japs are notoriously shit at netcode as well.
>Pawn system is unique and different >Training pawns, equipping them, sorting out their skills and inclinations is part of the experience >As is trading pawns for loot, gear, XP and knowledge other players can give you >Co-op detracts from all of that, outright removing it for players that will just do co-op from start to finish >Co-op would split the player base so there would be a smaller pool of pawns and trading going on >Balancing would be an issue, with pawn AI they have limitations and set responses, players could easily exploit and break combat and enemy AI >Lore reasons for pawns and their bond to the Arisen is completely ruined with co-op also, rendering the ending utterly meaningless
Satisfied? Now stop crying and hang out with your friends.
Forgot a big point too >Resources spent on co-op balancing, code, tweaks, optimizing could be better spent elsewhere for a better experience
Really should have co-op, pawns are just cope for them being to lazy / inept to add co-op and people that are anti co-op are friendless losers who it wouldn't effect anyway.
Also, 4 times the size is a big red flag. Open world games are consistently barren and empty, with key locations of actual interest spaced out by big fields of nothing that don't add to the game besides pointless travel time.
>4 times larger
OR >4 times denser
My fear with a lot of open world games is that most developers think people want the former when in reality the later is way better. I don't just want a frick huge map with nothing to do it in.
I want a map with a ton of shit like dungeons and catacombs and shit in it
DD could really benefit from larger maps though. Camping with pawns, more towns and settlements to stop off at and take on quests, more biomes, weather to play into combat. As long as it has more shortcuts like the mine from 1 as well as port crystals the world size will be fine. Also more roaming spawns so we don't always encounter goblins in the same spot.
People nowadays are just awful to play with and be around.
I have stopped associating with people online (for the most part) and my life as a whole has improved significantly. The chronically online and people you'd meet in MMOs/online games (love MonHun, but /mhg/ is a good example) are mentally ill.
It would change the whole game. >Minmaxgays become the norm instead of a suggestion. >It opens the door to all kinds of GaaS bullshit. >People will ask for PvP, and if it gets PvP it will ruin the whole game just like any multiplayer From Software game.
The spirit of cooperative play is dead.
You will just get zoomies racing from one quest to another, playing the most hyper-optimal arisen/pawn combo, and the most """co-op""" moment you might get is fighting a big monster together or bumping into each other at town.
Keeping it a pure, single player adventure won't dilute or gamify the experience, you get more invested in pawns and their growth, and you experience the world at your own pace.
Honestly, co-op/multiplayergays and ESPECIALLY pvpgays deserve to be btfo and left behind
Can ddgays explain why they don't want coop without throwing a tantrum? Is it just contrarianism? Or do they really think having a player companion as opposed to an AI companion would completely ruin the game?
It'll be less people using pawns and kill the pawn ecosystem so less people get their rented.
Then playing in someone else's world would be considered a waste of time and you couldn't play as what you wanted to. Games like MW5 have done that and people shit on it. So why take dev time away from it?
This is straight up false though.
So you want 4 arisens all running around in the same world with 12 pawns?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>can change vocation at any time in DD1
Wow you change your pawn to what you want to play in 0.3 seconds how inconvenient
11 months ago
Anonymous
>So you want 4 arisens all running around in the same world with 12 pawns?
Nah, but its evident you're a disingenuous homosexual so actual discussion is pointless, so dilate troony.
DD is already a grinding game, especially if you want to have all the classes, and face high level post game bosses, I cannot imagine who grind it will be with a forced coop mode.
Also this
The spirit of cooperative play is dead.
You will just get zoomies racing from one quest to another, playing the most hyper-optimal arisen/pawn combo, and the most """co-op""" moment you might get is fighting a big monster together or bumping into each other at town.
Keeping it a pure, single player adventure won't dilute or gamify the experience, you get more invested in pawns and their growth, and you experience the world at your own pace.
Honestly, co-op/multiplayergays and ESPECIALLY pvpgays deserve to be btfo and left behind
>we just want to get married goy >why do you care about what we do! >HOW WILL IT AFFECT YOU IN ANY WAY!
it's always the same tactics with these homosexuals
there is no timeline in which adding co-op 'doesn't change the base game' for the worse
It's like that meme where a community is invaded and ruined by normalgays, except this time they leave because it didn't change like they wanted it to.
>le israelites
tfw you just discovered /misc/ and need to insert how based you are in every conversation.
It's like that meme where a community is invaded and ruined by normalgays, except this time they leave because it didn't change like they wanted it to.
>Is regurgitating greedreddit consensus in a fanboy thread >calling anyone else a normalgay
lol.
>shilling a focus group fighting game with trannies and joggers out the ass >"rabbi"
DDgays cant be real, theres no way.
Hey chat GPT, write me an essay on why DD should have coop.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm chat GPT and due to pride month I think the people that want coop are homosexuals.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You lost trannoid, you can't doompost for shit because you get triggered too easily. Your discord is laughing at you whenver you're not online by the way. KWAB
11 months ago
Anonymous
SF has had blacks since it was actually good you disingenuous homosexual. Why the frick do /misc/gays try so hard to astroturf capcom of all companies?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>capcom of all companies
sorry bro. The black trannies in SF6 are actually based and redpilled.
People seem to forget, we got DD coop, DDO was DD coop. I wanted DD2 not DDO2.
The advent of multiplayer in the game came with a whole host of gameplay changes that could not be avoided in singleplayer, simple shit like having inventory be in real time rather than pause the game also came with changes to how simple they made consumables, how many you can carry, how you use them and the weight management affecting character creation, everything is simplified and streamlined to allow for smooth coop.
Think RE4 going to RE5. You could play it solo but the game is fundamentally changed by the fact that they built the game to account for coop.
>simple shit like having inventory be in real time rather than pause the game
I actually hope this doesn't comeback, menushit is not what I want out of an action game.
This is a very good point, and you're completely correct. Admittedly I didn't consider how much the carrying, weight, and item use would effect co op, It has been a long time since I've played DDO but looking back I do remember missing all of that.
>Game has co-op >"Hey bro come on man we're like level 30 already lets go lets fricking go I need some mats from harpies" >Need to rush the story to keep pace with friends >Pacing is fricked, nothing makes sense, everything turns grey.
Happens so fricking often, and then there's finally an oasis of a game where you can take things at your own pace without having to think about anything online and noooOOOooo >Bro Co OP is totally so good bro I mean that way I can pretend the pawns don't exist at all and now it just makes them inferior AI companions for friendless losers instead of stalwart friends that grow alongside them on their personal journey.
Do you have any fricking clue what happens to your AI cat when you hunt in Monster Hunter multiplayer? You shelve that fricker because it's just fricking annoying and gets in the way of co-op. It would completely ruin the whole point of the fricking game.
Training pawns is part of the charm and unique -quality of the original. Very few, if any games, have emergent AI companions in an RPG that you train with your input and actions. Why would I want to replace that with a player when I could be using my friend's pawn instead?
>Join friends world as your pawn >the game records your behaviors the same way your pawn does when playing alongside you in your world >your pawn remembers the missions and monsters you interacted with while playing as them >they retain this information when you're playing solo in your own world
There you go
This seems neat, but I feel it could easily be abused. like looking up all the elemental weaknesses of each monster, and deliberately "training" your pawn by exploiting each of them, making your pawn much smarter than pawns made by people who don't or can't play co op, Which doesn't seem fair
>Demon souls / early Dark Souls threads >Nier threads >Dragon Dogma threads
newbies will never know how chill these threads were in the past
I always worry that they're talking about pixel count whenever they say this. So you end up with a map that's technically the same size relative to the player, but is 4x pixel denser thus "4 times the size". It's a cheap ass marketing trick that Bethesda abuses often
gran soren city design was a major highlight of the first game for me. It felt like an actual big city with lots of people going around compared to the Bethesda crap that had 2 meter walls and like 5 npcs walking around. if they can make an even bigger gran soren/multiple cities like that in DD2 i will kneel so hard
> Not wanting to get lost, woefully under-levelled and under prepared in a forest after dark when the predators come out, fighting desperately until finally the sun finally comes up, the predators recede and you are left standing, master of all you survey and finally able to get your bearings back into town floating on air like the champion you are.
God I hope so. Fast travel is too unbelievably convenient to resist when it's present, but every open world game I've ever played without it has benefited immensely from its absence.
Thatd be good though. Fast travel is a surefire way to make any world, now matter how big, feel like a small series of hubs rather than a world. Just add fast travel points or some form of travel. >get stuck in the wilderness in the dark with little oil for the lantern >go towards light in the distance, and discover the healing springs >tay there till daytime, whilst fending off phantoms that are attacking from the darkness
Shit like this was lost with the eternal ferrystone being immediately available in the final version of the game. Nighttimes in DD were handled better than most games let alone RPGs, because it was actually fricking dark and the light source consumed oil.
Theres a Magic class with something that looks like a ball on a chain and theres a Twin bladed magic class shown in the trailer briefly. They looks sick
Capcom generally don't reveal games and market them unless they're about a year away, though Pragmata is an exception. DD2 only got announced on the 10th anniversary for the fans. March-May 2024 seems most likely to me but I feel they would have told us already if that were the case.
> He didn't realize that Sorcerer is a highly mobile class with a comically strong, if extremely short, melee attack. > He didn't bully goblin shamans in BBI by b***h-slapping them off cliffs, or deliver the final blow to a dragon with a flying leap after melting them with holy spam standing right under their snout.
>destroy suspension bridge to win a fight >suddenly realise you destroyed the most direct path to your destination >have to take a detour through an even more dangerous part of the map
KINO
I hope there's more environmental interaction and destructive stuff than just bridges.
Can ddgays explain why they don't want coop without throwing a tantrum? Is it just contrarianism? Or do they really think having a player companion as opposed to an AI companion would completely ruin the game?
It's a single player game, not a coop game. Trying to implement and then balance coop takes time and resources. You can't even try the normal moronic homosexual defense of "Well you're not taking THAT much time and effort away from other things by-" that you subhuman apes like to ramble on about because DD is a game that desperately needed more time for development. No one who actually likes the game wants a single man hour wasting on a feature for gays who didn't like the game for what it was or what it was trying to accomplish in the first place.
Really should have co-op, pawns are just cope for them being to lazy / inept to add co-op and people that are anti co-op are friendless losers who it wouldn't effect anyway.
Also, 4 times the size is a big red flag. Open world games are consistently barren and empty, with key locations of actual interest spaced out by big fields of nothing that don't add to the game besides pointless travel time.
My fear with a lot of open world games is that most developers think people want the former when in reality the later is way better. I don't just want a frick huge map with nothing to do it in.
I want a map with a ton of shit like dungeons and catacombs and shit in it
It's 4 times larger. That's what they said in moon. If it's 4 times as large as DD all around but scaled up "in proportion" then that's good. gays who b***h endless if an open world game requires you to run more than 10 seconds before finding a new major event in any given direction are moronic.
I like open spaces in games, but preferring density is subjective. If there is a thing around every corner it just feels like a theme park, which kills the point of an immersive world. I would love it if more shit was interactive though, like being able to have some kind of use for most flora, so you can rp a druid or potion crafter
There is a good balance to be found
I want r*ddit and d*scord to die so we can have less consolidation of the internet but everyone knows those subhumans would just flock into something just as bad.
Originally my hopes where they show a release date and my fear was a very late release date. Didn't even occur to me that they aren't going to show anything AT ALL. Which is obviously even worse.
They did in the first game too. Magic shields are the specific type that stayed on the back while normal shields stayed on the arm. I'm still certain they'll fix this for 2 if magic shields/mystic knight are in the game again.
Backwards facing daggers should be used for climbing up monsters, essentially using them like picks while also dealing small amounts of damage each time you stab it in.
Would be cool if there was a stance mechanic and Striders go from slashing with forward facing to doing cool assassination stabs and dashes with the reverse grip
11 months ago
Anonymous
More games need stance mechanics. Would be fricking sick. Imagine fighters having >duelist stance >stance for groups >heavy stance
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Sword-first stance that is aggresive, with lunges, slashes and parries. >Shield-first stance that is about hammering the enemy with the shield, blocking and overpowering through attacks.
What type of Arisen/Pawn will you make?
I'll probably make a Female Cat Sorcerer Arisen with a Male Fighter Pawn. Depending on the new Magic classes Ill switch to those instead
because D&D alchemists are fricking boring and can barely do shit. D&D in general has boring and pathetic classes, playing a rank 3 fighter in dragon's dogma is a better power fantasy while still remaining fairly grounded than a max level D&D fighter.
I FRICKING HATE 5E SO GOD DAMN MUCH
I MADE AN ALCHEMIST AND THAT WAS THE MOST MISERABLE SHIT EVER FRICK I WANT TO SHOOT GOBLINS WITH GOLDEN SHOTGUNS
>mystic knight
Mystic knight doesn't rocket punch the air to jet across the screen and punch count down rocks until they explode. Alchemist is a shitty reskin of royal guard that COG made with no care for how DD works because they needed to appeal to korean twitch macro gays.
If you actually wanted to punch ogres in the dick you'd be asking for them to finally make a monk class like they had originally planned to before it got scrapped.
It's fine bro. Itsuno won, and we get to share the spoils. If normalgays eat it up and carry the torch it's just a bonus to /ourguy/. >Verification not required.
Has anyone here played dragon's dogma online with friends before? It's a great time.
I think co op would be a lot of fun, for some reason people assume it would be forced, and that they would have to play with randoms. nobody would do that, are you moronic? people would just play with their friends.
I hope co op is implemented later, I like how they're focusing in on the single player and pawn ai and making them as good as they can be, I'm glad they aren't wasting resources trying to make co op right now, but if they take the time after the games released to really refine it, it would be so goddamn fun to play with my 3 friends and frick shit up together
i love my bros
Ideally yes, the density of content would remain the same and thus a 4x bigger map would mean 4x as much content. But knowing how open world game development often goes, I'm not sure that will be the case.
I think it applies to map size and content.
ER world is 80km I think, and based off DD1 map being half Skyrim's size, that'd put it at about 30km (squared?).
It seems like the map will be half the size of ER, but have more stuff to do and proper content.
OK, that's a good way to put it in perspective. Half of ER's size (though does that account for the big hole in the middle of ER's map?) sounds pretty manageable.
That likely just means overall content, not literal map size unless they specified it.
I definitely think they're talking about map size, that's much easier to quantify than "content" in general.
>knowing how open world game development often goes
I wouldn't compare DD to any modern open world tbh
first one had no copy pasted locations at all, and if they keep that aspect on a 4x times the size map, it'll be glorious
>and if they keep that aspect on a 4x times the size map
Well yeah, that's the difficult part, isn't it? We'll see how they do. I'm sure Capcom is giving them more development resources, and modern tooling makes it easier for level + quest designers to pump out content with less help from artists and programmers. But it's also a 2-generation fidelity leap from 1, and covid probably screwed with early development. Hopefully they don't try to push it out before 2025.
The hope is that DD2 will be what ER failed to be, and given Capcom is much more competent than From, I think they will succeed shilling aside.
I don't hate ER, I had a blast, but I never plan to return to it, and I don't really care about its DLC, the empty, dead world From continuously does is really tired. I want Japanese Witcher 3/Elder Scrolls.
>the empty, dead world From continuously does is really tired
Yeah. They generally sacrifice other aspects of their games to focus very narrowly on combat-related content (enemies to fight, stuff to fight them with, places to fight them in). They've been doing it for ~7 games and have a very efficient pipeline. The amount of that content they pumped out for ER was pretty impressive, but the style of bleak minimalism they use in their worlds to enable that starts to feel repetitive.
The hope is that DD2 will be what ER failed to be, and given Capcom is much more competent than From, I think they will succeed shilling aside.
I don't hate ER, I had a blast, but I never plan to return to it, and I don't really care about its DLC, the empty, dead world From continuously does is really tired. I want Japanese Witcher 3/Elder Scrolls.
I think it applies to map size and content.
ER world is 80km I think, and based off DD1 map being half Skyrim's size, that'd put it at about 30km (squared?).
It seems like the map will be half the size of ER, but have more stuff to do and proper content.
I love seeing cooptrannies seethe, go to any single player game on steam and type "coop" when you search on discussion and you will see cooptrannies begging for a coop mode
>just a bigger better version of the first game >no unnecessary changes to appeal to normalgays
Itsuno is a good man I hope this turns out to be his magnum opus
0.19 fighter is in a mid-roll animation but it might be a sprint roll
daggers get a quick dash, maybe new dodge roll animation
daggers are on fire, which still disables the burning goblin
0.56 new unsheathed fighter running animation with the shield on his back
0.59 new animations for the basic attack combo for swords
1.01 new dagger move that imbues them with fire
1.01 warrior goes to town on that goblin's back
1.13 new warrior move like an upward strike
1.41 the combo after blink strike is not the basic attack seen previously (no diagonal slashes)
1.42 cool hitbox miss from the goblin attack
2.15 fighter using tusk toss
2.16 maybe new warrior unsheathed running animation followed up by new move
3.22 we get to see the twin blade attack animation
Everything about this game designed around (You) and pawns. Pawn is like a pokemon. Every content you beat you beat either solo or with pawns. No one is helping you except pawns desinged and trained by other players. It's a pawn economy. Closed system. Like a cancer any co-op shit will ruin entire system like always.
You're too stupid to understand this because you're coop Black person.
>You can only engage in co op if you make a pawn >You can only play as your pawn in other worlds, and they will still get rented out
fixed pawn economy, easy
>You can only play as your pawn
You don't really understand what pawn is?
Read again. Everything in this game is achieved solo without your troony help. Your troony friend can't boost your zoomer ass. Everything in this game designed, balanced for one sapient human being with AI toddlers. Your kind killed shit tons of games.
KYS
>troony troony troony!!! zoomer!!!
Regardless of co op the game will be broken and manipulated by people who want to be carried to the end without putting in effort. that's what blast arrows are for.
>entire trailer is the devs coping about how it's "just as good as real co-op" >cult fanbase eats it up and claims those shitty grapes were sour anyway
lmao
Why do Capcom and Itsuno want this game to fail? They need to add co-op or no one will buy this game, are they fricking stupid?
Frick off with your disingenuous shit stirring you crippled moron
>map is FOUR times as big >wolves hunt in packs FOUR times as large >their kind attacks women (or men) FOUR times as ferociously >the duke aught to commission FOUR new roads
WE'RE BACK BABY
What I want for DD2 >Hot swap between classes outside of town >Ability use any weapon of any class >BONE ZONE spells >unlimited number of port crystals >THE MOON >Post game dungeon crawl zone with procedural rooms
ER map is about 80km.
Skyrim is 37km apparently.
DD1 map is half the size of Skyrim, 4x that puts it at twice the size of Skyrim's map I believe. Correcting myself from earlier, that'd put it at 74km? Not 30. (It'd be about 30 miles, not km, my mistake). So fairly close to ER's world size if that's actually the case.
>entire trailer is the devs coping about how it's "just as good as real co-op" >cult fanbase eats it up and claims those shitty grapes were sour anyway
lmao
>be co-op gay >speedrun the game in order to clear backlog as fast as possible >sperg out at every minor inconvenience >start inting and throwing tantrums every second >mash the shield button every two seconds >choose the most obnoxious homosexual arisen design >try to play through every encounter as optimally as possible >grind the same three fights in order to minmax gear >faceroll the same optimal set-up (stolen from some homosexual guide) >spam invites and friend requests >BM over not getting your way >banned for voice chat >banned for text chat >*requires capcom id* >stalks your dms
OR
>be pawn 1, pawn 2, and/or pawn 3, >not a redditor >not a troony >not a Black person >not from globohomo >no zoomer memespeak >a fictional native from a fictional fantasy setting >can be whatever/whoever you want >never breaks character >always reacts realistically to the situation at hand
I'd much rather co-op with an actual necromancer (female) than with some discord gay.
>Fix hydra camera POV when climbing >remove Eliminators ENTIERLY >Don't have almost all supporting cast disappear 2/3 of the way through the game >Do not even TRY making the true love based on bullshit parameters. give player full control. >have infused weapons damage ghosts to give melee fighters some options ffs >make ogres fun instead of damage sponge
i will now buy your game and call it kino
>Game has co-op >"Hey bro come on man we're like level 30 already lets go lets fricking go I need some mats from harpies" >Need to rush the story to keep pace with friends >Pacing is fricked, nothing makes sense, everything turns grey.
Happens so fricking often, and then there's finally an oasis of a game where you can take things at your own pace without having to think about anything online and noooOOOooo >Bro Co OP is totally so good bro I mean that way I can pretend the pawns don't exist at all and now it just makes them inferior AI companions for friendless losers instead of stalwart friends that grow alongside them on their personal journey.
Do you have any fricking clue what happens to your AI cat when you hunt in Monster Hunter multiplayer? You shelve that fricker because it's just fricking annoying and gets in the way of co-op. It would completely ruin the whole point of the fricking game.
>I hate coop and social interaction because I'm a pussy b***h that lets everyone boss me around >additionally I cannot be left out of anything I must do everything at the same time as everyone else
get help
Remember all those stories about pawns in DD threads? >bro just paly coop pawns are dumb fr fr >no cap pawns shit cleared giga dark Grigori with my fellas in 1 minute naked >imagine using pawns XD
it always ends up like this
>You shelve that fricker because it's just fricking annoying and gets in the way of co-op
So you morons hate coop because you are morons? Bring my dog or cat to any damn hunt I feel like.
>if it has optional co op I cannot stop myself from participating in something I don’t like and cannot play it by myself
okay
thanks for the reddit spacing and reddit opinion
>have pawn >make pawn role also a playable co op character >oh no it’s slightly easier for someone now ahhh the game design
i don’t think you know anything about it
if you can’t make that system work you’re a dogshit developer
11 months ago
Anonymous
Now the pawn is not designed as your AI companion, but as a receptable for Co-op.
You don't seem to understand the difference, sad!
11 months ago
Anonymous
>design the pawn ai >allow it to also not be ai
sorry your pajeet brain cannot understand this, try again next time
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's why it's game design, not the mechanics of the pawn AI, but as I said, you don't understand what that means.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you’re being too limited with your scope
if you think you cannot, or it’s bad design to design an AI system that is not forced to be used then please tell me what games you make so I can never interact with them you fart sniffing psued
11 months ago
Anonymous
>psued
The irony
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Entire point of Pawns is they have no soul and need directions from being around another Arisen >DUDE JUST CONTROL A PAWN EASY
11 months ago
Anonymous
>can’t change the point at all because of your autism
okay
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Changing an important plot point of the entire setting for an arbitary game mechanic addition
How does Co-op add to the game exactly?
11 months ago
Anonymous
let’s the pawn be some soulless br I met instead of a soulless ai
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why the hell would anyone choose to interact with Brazillians?
11 months ago
Anonymous
An option for people who want to use it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
So it doesn't add anything to the game as a whole, simply existing to placate a few people?
11 months ago
Anonymous
And therefore another arisen soul possessing them through some means makes perfect sense
And yes, before you ask, other player characters existing in their own game worlds operating concurrently with yours is literally how the DD world works
11 months ago
Anonymous
Except we know what happens when an Arisen passes a soul onto their Pawn, with the ending of DD and Selene's questline.
You're asking to break the fundamental part of the setting simply because you think semi-social interaction would make the game better.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You have a mistaken idea of how that system works, anon
You are not possessing your pawn, they simply become their own person and gain a will that winds up appearing similar to you through exposure
Your headcanon is not a fundamental part of the setting
11 months ago
Anonymous
No, YOU are misunderstanding. Your "Soul" in DD is your will to move, your literal ability to be the protagonist.
When you finish the game, you pass that on to your Pawn and your previous character becomes the seneschal.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oh, you're a meta homosexual
Nevermind, I assumed I was talking with someone who had some kind of opinion on canon concepts
Enjoy your weird autistic fixation, redditor
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's literally how the world works, it's "Meta" because the game is based entirely on free will.
The Seneshal outright points that out, the Selene quest points that out. Pawns are brainless Murder-NPCS, they don't even have the willpower to be normal people in the world.
11 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
point of Pawns is they have no soul and need directions from being around another Arisen
newsflash moron. (You) are the Arisen.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, you are the Arisen, the world revolves around you. You leaving your world is not an option.
That's exactly how it works, I've played monhun solo for years.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I've played monhun solo for years.
Absolute moron. Majority of people play MH online/coop. This entire series was coop centric. You play coop and you farm everything in nanosecond. But in MH your farm materials only for you. In DD it's not. You have pawn. KYS.
Go play any other souls clone
11 months ago
Anonymous
so you didn't engage in KT or Jiva
got it
you played a worse game because co-op functionality changed what you wanted form a single player experience
11 months ago
Anonymous
Got full armorsets for both tho. I genuinely don't get why you morons just can't admit you don't have a good reason to not want coop outside of contrarianism.
I still have a visceral reaction of nausea when I think about that empty, empty world and endlessly repeated NPC dialog. The fighting was good, apart from that it was an absolute travesty.
i'd be fine with limited co-op (something like DMCV's cameo system) but fleshing out how pawns interact with players would be a better move >pawns will comment how other arisen dealt with certain problems, listing them as subjective choices rather than ways to complete quests >you can send pawns to deliver gifts to players on your friends list, and they'll seek that player out in their world >if you and a player have hired each other's pawns, you can choose to lend them for a time, having their pawn act as your main pawn for a while
the entire point is you feel the presence of other players filtered through pawns. you get the impression of what they play like and what they did, but never meet them directly. i think that's neat.
>ps2 era kojima technology >only had replies because he made it about coomer e-girl shit
so being able to picked up by enemies, water putting out fire and your character size dictating what entry ways you can fit through is what’s good about the game?
i came from here
e-girl shit is pathetic and should stay on /b/
if that same exact post was made but it wasn’t a e-girl he was talking about, no one would have made that image
you only think its neat because you’re a pedophile
same reason why the replies in the picture about the little girl and not the fact there were goblin caves or harpies or anything else
i did no matter how much you wanna believe it or not
if you didn’t find out about Ganker from your wow guild members in the mid 2000’s you missed out
sorry I’m not obsessed over e-girls and pedo shit, or care about e-girls going into caves or being small
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not reading your post, redditgay. Frick off.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>replied to it >auto capitals
frick off to reddit phone using scum
I don't remember there being this much perpetual seethe over the idea of co-op in DD threads before 2 got officially announced, even when it directly got brought up as something someone wanted for a hypothetical sequel.
What happened?
Also >All these people coping by saying "they'll just mod it in like DMC5"
Pretty sure that only worked because the cameo system could already function as a very limited co-op mode, doubt it would happen for DD unless there's a similar feature or there's some truly dedicated autismo modders who want to make it happen.
literally all stemmed from pic related
normies and their idol streamers saw interacting with ai, which is so profoundly advanced to them that they headcannoned co-op
and when they learned naught seethe begain
>and when they learned naught seethe begain
[Citation Needed]
all i see are fromhomosexuals and some discord b***hes that keep seething at DD because they lost the never ever shitposting power once DD2 was announced.
why are gays in this thread shitting their pants over other games or whatever coop for a SINGLE PLAYER game, seems very artificial?
Just be glad one of the most kino title is coming back to life
>seems very artificial
You always should feed bait posts if you have opportunity and in the mood. It's in your interest to make a contribution in mental degradation of those posters.
Map size literally means nothing. Starfield is x10000000 the biggest map ever but its all procedurally generated nothingness so it doesn't matter. I'd rather a map be small and filled with real content than be like Ubisoft where a giant map is full of copypasted garbage
Nope the new gameplay shows it's how you carry the greatsword while unsheathed but not attacking.
And before you cry about realism, that is literally how Zweihander's were carried when not swinging them because it's a long metal object so shouldering it is better.
THERE WAS 3 FRICKING DUNGEONS IN THE ENTIRE GAME YOU moronic MONKEY AND EACH ONE IS SMALLER THAN A FRICKING SKYRIM DUNGEON YOUR BRAIN IS ROTTED FUCC BOI ITS TIME TO GET ABSOLUTELY FRICKING
>In a 2015 interview with Rolling Stone, Howard explained that he had formulated his own language of logic, which he called Terryology, and which he was keeping secret until he had patented it. This logic language, he claimed, would be used to prove the statement "1 × 1 = 2".
>"How can it equal one?" he said. "If one times one equals one that means that two is of no value because one times itself has no effect. One times one equals two because the square root of four is two, so what's the square root of two? Should be one, but we're told it's two, and that cannot be."
Konnichello, I am John Capcom. Gomenasorry for not having too many details about Dragon's Dogma 2 but I can confirm Mystic Knight can reverse your framerate and turn back the game at -5FPS.
>Co-op bullshit as it simply supercedes the whole point.
But it doesn't. Why is every with coop shit according to you morons? Is Sonic & Knuckles bad because it has coop?
this is one of the most embarrassing threads I've seen about dragon's dogma in a long while.
co-op gays saying the game is shit without co-op, making morons who violently shit themselves at the prospect of optional human interaction in retaliation, everyone hates everyone else and troonyposters make the few reasonable frickers on either side of the debate look unhinged by association
I'm going to miss the cozy dd threads, i should have known the second dd got in the spotlight discord homosexuals and Gankertards would start organizing fecal bombing runs on everything in sight
> Over time, your Pawn will become a worthy companion on your journey, as they learn through their experiences, adventuring with you as well as with other players, which will be reflected in their behavior. > as well as with other players
Hmmm... > Get pawn. > Teach them to constantly jump off cliffs. > Send them back with a harpy feather.
Yeah I'm putting mine to invisible. Imagine all the medicant shitters out there teaching your pawn bad habits.
There isn't any difference between the two other than I'm in a shitty universe where I have to wagecuck to make money and they are in the fun Vidya universe where you can walk outside and kill things indefinitely for money and also you level up and get magical powers and don't have to pay bills etc. Shit dude I'd pick up a sword and hunt monsters instead of going to work tomorrow if it was an option.
God I wish it was an option.
>see a Wyrm in the wild >Holy riposte into a holy infused magic canon >Delete al his life bars >you shoot so many projectiles that your console dips into single digits fps
You can even do more silly shit with the sigil on the ground, then magic canon and then you perfect block
Seriously anon, Mystic Knight is the tohou class
is the original worth playing? played it for an hour back in the day and it felt like a generic knock off fantasy game without anything to call its own
it splits opinion, but the original DD is one of my favorite video games of all time. the world is small but I find it very immersive and fun to explore, although you do see all there is to see pretty quick. to me, the mechanics and gameplay, while simple, are fun enough that the world size isn't that big a problem.
if you're really uncertain, just wait for a sale, and if you do pick it up, go into it open minded. it rewards experimenting
>just wait for a sale
it's 5 bucks on steam right now
yes
the setting may be generic but mechanically its a very strange and unique game with fantastic combat and boss fights, thats also heavily flawed and unfinished.
it took me 2 attempts for it to click, then i sunk over 70 hours into it. its often said that its the most 10/10 6/10 game you'll ever play. keep that in mind.
Can you explore complex areas stuff or is it just going to the same places again and again?
the map is pretty empty and samey
but then at the same time there actually are unique things to find, but its like timed specific shit where you have to be doing a certain quest and be in the right place at the right time to trigger a unique event. there are entire dungeons and secret areas that need some obscure ass sidequest to access
you have beaches, fields/forests, a kinda sorta dryland area in the east, and a snowy area up north. all that you mostly find are enemy mobs and trash random loot.
i truly cant give a yes or no to that question. the game is like schrodingers cat. its in a superposition of being complete dogshit and amazing at the same time
>but its like timed specific shit where you have to be doing a certain quest and be in the right place at the right time to trigger a unique event.
I really really really really hate that, cause it means i gave to play with a guide.
you don't have to
its not the kind of game where you are going to see everything in 1 playthrough
also when i say timed, its not like you have a 2 hour timer on quests or something. there are certain milestones throughout the main quest that lock off previous side quests, and the world changes after them. one of them changes the world pretty drastically
Yeah ill pass, i dont really like to replay games for new content because the new content uou see is usually not worth the time. You kight getcmaybe 20% new content on a replay.
If you dig really good combat and satisfying exploration with a killer soundtrack to accompany all that, then ye. I'd say it's worth playing.
Are you expecting a huge open-world RPG with a deep storyline and good side quests? No.
Do you want to play a fun fantasy hack and slash game with light rpg elements and crazy boss battles? Then yes.
The reason some many people hated DD1 is because it advertised itself as the first example.
It's a rough gem. Worth a playthrough. If fighting the troll at the fort did nothing at all for you, by all means give it up. If you even went a little bit 'that was kinda neat/fun' then stick with it.
It's one of the most 6/10 games ever made. If you love it, you love it.
>a generic knock off fantasy game without anything to call its own
It's definitely not this, though.
I don't know but it's like 5 bucks on steam right now so I'm going to buy it even if I know absoultely nothing about it. Wish me luck ddgays, I'm sure nothing will be wong.
The setting is generic fantasy from a Japanese perspective so it's pretty good
The opening is horrendous, it only gets good when you have more skills. Honestly I think it gets overhyped because of the combat
>generic knock off fantasy game without anything to call its own
thats definitely the average first impression, but its totally wrong, you simply didnt see enough of the game
its kinda rough, its really a hit or miss type of game
if you not fully into it, you will get bored within 5 hours
IM HYPED
I'm glad DDgays are getting a sequel but after 36 hours I couldn't stomach how generic the setting was, which is a shame because I hear the ending and NG+ endings are wicked sick and do the whole "cycle" thing with kino finesse.
It is absolutely worth it and the game is on sale right now with all dlc for like $5. Just play it for what it is with no guide, but avoid Bitterblack Isle until you're sufficiently leveled. The BBI content alone is more than worth the 5 bucks. You also don't need to get too autistic with character creation because you can redo yourself and your main pawn one time on your first playthrough if you get sick of your look, then unlimited times on NG+
It really takes a good, good few hours to settle into it. I had to clear the tutorial with Savan AND then the opening with the player character up until reaching the major city AND pick up my first major quest in the city AND get like half way through said quest before the game REALLY clicked
But once it did I was hooked and was playing it every waking moment until finish
Personally it's the physics that got me the most excited.
they are putting a lot on emphasis on the AI too, wonder what's that about
He mentioned improved and more advanced pawns hope they didn't forget to improve the enemy AI as well or the pawns alone will shit on every encounter.
Yeah, that thing he said about pulling enemies legs sounds like it could be big. Physics added to boss animations.
>no release date
it's fricking over...
PRAGMATED
That was a whole lot of nothing holy shit
>map 4 times the size
>more classes
>furry pawns
I hope they dont add proper fast travel
>IT'S BIGGER THEREFORE IT'S BETTER
None of this shit matters if you have barely anything to do like in DD1. Time and time again you see how shit massive open worlds are in games but you still don't learn. If he said that the map was 4 times denser then maybe I would be hyped.
>Implying the frick-all to do in the first game was intentional
who asked?
It's funny that moronic zoomers and young millennials think that people give a shit about their inane open world b***hing in DD threads of all places. You don't know anything about video game design. No one cares about your armchair critique.
>barely anything to do
>kill big monsters
>comfy adventure with fellow pawns
>cute girls along the journey
what else do you need
Something to do that isn't walking through the same lifeless empty terrain for the 50th time?
Sounds to me like you just hate adventure, anon.
The adventure is the first time, not the 5th, 20th or 50th
A real man never tires of adventure
Commuting isn't adventuring
It is when there's beasts to slay and goodies to collect. I think you need to find a soul, my man.
Yeah the same two beasts and horde of goblins
Yaay
You just don't have an adventurous spirit, that's your problem, anon.
I blame decades of soul sucking open meme games
do you srsly think they wont' put in side stuff to do, this is a man's dream game. There is no way itsuno wouldn't go all out for his dream
>dream game.
jesus, you guys really dont aim high
and you must not be able to read. I quite literally say this is itsuno's dream game in the post.
He threatened to quit capcom if he couldn't make it and has wanted to fully realize its potential for years.
You are either moronic or esl
Oh you want your map to look like a cluttered ubisoft / witcher checklist shit fest. I get it.
Those are some of the most empty games moron-kun
If you didn't like Dragon's Dogma, you probably won't like Dragon's Dogma 2. Go play different games, Anon.
Some people just don't get it. Constant monster attacks every 5 feet is not what would happen on a fantasy adventure. The relative scarcity versus ubishit games and Bethesda trash is a HUGE plus. It makes it feel that much more real and exciting. DD2 is gonna be fricking amazing bros I can't wait
night time can be scary tho
side tangent
how the frick do i stop Chrome from downloading every gay fricking pic as wepb or whatever that frick it... oh just change the file name when you save it, doesn't work perfectly and i don't want to ahve to do that extra step
doing ctrl+s sometimes works, but an extension called Save File as Type does the job
thx niga
That's been pissing me off too. 4ch should just add webp support
for me it's the free img editor i use to crop shit, does'nt support it
>le heckin wholesome chungus comfy
What is with frogposters and constantly emasculating themselves? I understand they get tortured and raped for 100% of their entire lifetime but they ought to have SOME dignity.
You sound like a really shitty person.
Anti-Frogposters are of a distinguished kind thank you very much
Nothing to do with frogs. That just sounded like a shit person.
I don't want it to be denser. I don't want it to be a modern day open world game where every thirty seconds it has to throw some dopamine at you. I loved how each journey was its own reward, and you spent a lot of time just going back and forth from Gran Soren. If anything, I hope they intensify this and make night travel even more dangerous.
More proof the Ganker leaker is legit, he specifically mentioned 4 regions.
Nothing in that pic is confirmed or likely.
oh frick off all of that is completely wrong and not even close to being real.
The game is listed as singleplayer both on the website and on steam. The co-op thing gets disproved right off the bat
Things change over 3 years.
He specifically went and clarified that co-op has been downgraded to a lower priority and most likely DLC in a later post.
>complex sorceries such as tidal wave or lava vortex
don't you fricking tempt me with sweet lies. those sound too sick to be real
my immediate reaction
>currently they are working on a cooperative mode for 3 players plus their respective pawns
lmao, no it's not.
I think you should stop being a moron that falls for fake leaks
>4 times the size
>more vocations
>focus on pawn AI and physics interactions
>no coop
I can't fricking wait.
We got drip fed.
But at least it was something.
Can ddgays explain why they don't want coop without throwing a tantrum? Is it just contrarianism? Or do they really think having a player companion as opposed to an AI companion would completely ruin the game?
diverts resources from singleplayer to a mode most people here wouldn't play
>people here
Wow a whopping 0.2% of the player base
>a mode
>a huge shift in priorities
Why would enabling a player controlled pawn (or w.e.) in a game already balanced around a party warrant creating a new mode?
So ddgays just dont have friends? is that really it?
He's a moron but making the game work over a network and properly synchronize everything would be a rather large draw on the team
I've never made a game so maybe you're right, but trannies upload coop mods to Nexus all the time, so the extent to which it would strain the development team of a multi-million dollar budget AAA seems greatly exaggerated.
>Minmaxgays become the norm instead of a suggestion.
>It opens the door to all kinds of GaaS bullshit.
Why does coop mean match-making and party-finders to you morons? Stop playing Destiny 2.
>People will ask for PvP
...
>I don't have friends
that seems to be a common response
upvoted
>he thinks coop in a party-based single-player game would turn it into an MMO
I concede DDgays. This is truly one of the most moronic fanbases I have ever interacted with.
Those games aren't very complex or already have some measure of online ability either in other modes or on an engine level
Best just hope those "trannies" throw you a bone on this one if they're your measure of competence
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It's strange how fricking pissed off get about even the concept of co op later down the line, after the main game is fully refined
The idea of inviting your friends over to play dragon's dogma with you causes so much seething and shitflinging it's absurd, I guess it's just because there's always a lot of shitposters after any event, but there's almost no nuance in this thread. Like you mentioned about matchmaking, who the FRICK actually thinks co op would be forced and it would force you to play with randoms? How would that even work?
Cool you can go now
What are your opinions homosexual? Come on, engage in some motherfricking conversation. Let me hear your thoughts.
Co op isnt happening, bye bye.
Correct, I'm glad they're focusing on the single player. I want it to be the best it will be. I'm arguing that co op would not be nearly as disastrous as you think it would be if added later down the line, which it likely won't. Instead they'll probably make something akin to BBI, Which was the best part of dd1.
>doomposting
What? The games going to be great regardless of co op. I just think it would be fun if properly implemented. I would rather no co op than shitty half assed co op.
>conversing with normalgays
Man, you people are out in droves since reddit stopped for two days huh?
https://www.gamesradar.com/best-co-op-games/
No one wants to talk with doomposting discordtroons. You guys are irrelevant, the game is not for you, good. Frick off.
>"Why do you guys hate coop so much"
>DOOOOOOOOOOM POOOOOOOSTINGGGGGGG
Whats the deal with you homosexuals? Seriously?
engage in some motherfricking conversation
Okay DIE
Explain why you want to ruin Itsuno's vision first when you could just go play Monster Hunter.
nta, I would give my left nut to just use AI pawns in monster hunter, even the most pajeet coded AI would be smarter then some of the fricking randoms I get for hunts
Didn't Rise implement followers?
The AI companions on Sunbreak mog your average random co-op player
>explain why you want to play a good game made better and not a pile of shit
Should be obvious
None of you gays when asked could explain how coop would ruin 'Itsuno's vision', and I personally don't see how coop would do that either.
I think its inclusion is a no-brainer for a game like this, but I'll buy it anyway even without coop.
coop will be moddable since it's RE Engine, just like DMC5:
You never listen. Itsuno designed the game based on BBS boards where your pawns are your posts online. That's why the game updated your pawns whenever you went to the inn. You gays always ignore that shit.
Didn't his original vision have a tower that connected the worlds of different arisen
Any time not spent on the single player experience of this game or adding and refining mechanics directly related to how battles work is time wasted.
I agree, As much as I would like co op, even if implemented later they would have to do it in favor of expanding the games content with single player DLC.
In all honesty, I would prefer they go all in with singleplayer DLC. I just don't think co op would ruin the game forever and make it shit.
that's great man stay away from the game
Now that you know that the game isn't for you, you should consider making like a tree and fricking off.
>So ddgays just dont have friends? is that really it?
the fact that you have to ask shows you really don't care about it.
however i'll explain a bit what's with this discordhomosexual wars.
>fromgays kept shitposting in DD threads
>they notice it gained traction
>hey double down on stupid by saying no forced homosexual coop or pvp mpshit from fromsoft
>DD2 is announced
>discord homosexuals organize to keep posting the same shit as old
>some anons repel it with the video of itsuno saying it's about a SP experience
>discordhomosexuals notice this and start to post against coop to imply DDchads are friendlets
>this shit keeps going on and now it's a baitwar between coop homosexuals and anti coop homosexuals
>they always imply it'll be fromsoft shit as they always say the devs will focus change it
here we are but TLDR is that discord homosexuals ruin everything that is fun, hope it helped.
I personally wouldn't mind controlling my pawn on someone else's adventure as long as that's the extent of it and doesn't detract from the single player experience. Not interested in pvp meta shit getting in the way of my comfy fantasy adventure. We already have endless souls clones for that vibe
>diverts resources
The guy making online infrastructure is not the guy designing dungeons. Besides the actual brunt of the work is already handled by the games existing class design.
Honestly I'd be fine with it in theory, but if it did happen it'd mean a huge shift in priorities and less attention paid to things SP players care about. Japs are notoriously shit at netcode as well.
Online multi-player with randoms hasn't been fun since 2012 and who the frick do I know irl that's going to playthrough dd2 with me
>Pawn system is unique and different
>Training pawns, equipping them, sorting out their skills and inclinations is part of the experience
>As is trading pawns for loot, gear, XP and knowledge other players can give you
>Co-op detracts from all of that, outright removing it for players that will just do co-op from start to finish
>Co-op would split the player base so there would be a smaller pool of pawns and trading going on
>Balancing would be an issue, with pawn AI they have limitations and set responses, players could easily exploit and break combat and enemy AI
>Lore reasons for pawns and their bond to the Arisen is completely ruined with co-op also, rendering the ending utterly meaningless
Satisfied? Now stop crying and hang out with your friends.
Forgot a big point too
>Resources spent on co-op balancing, code, tweaks, optimizing could be better spent elsewhere for a better experience
DD could really benefit from larger maps though. Camping with pawns, more towns and settlements to stop off at and take on quests, more biomes, weather to play into combat. As long as it has more shortcuts like the mine from 1 as well as port crystals the world size will be fine. Also more roaming spawns so we don't always encounter goblins in the same spot.
>says shit that is flat out wrong
>still throws a tantrum
You lost, co-optroony, beat it.
People nowadays are just awful to play with and be around.
I have stopped associating with people online (for the most part) and my life as a whole has improved significantly. The chronically online and people you'd meet in MMOs/online games (love MonHun, but /mhg/ is a good example) are mentally ill.
I thought it was bad during peak Halo 2, but really that was great in comparison to what we have now.
It would change the whole game.
>Minmaxgays become the norm instead of a suggestion.
>It opens the door to all kinds of GaaS bullshit.
>People will ask for PvP, and if it gets PvP it will ruin the whole game just like any multiplayer From Software game.
I don't want to play with *you* anon. I want to play with a fictional catgirl princess not some neckbeard from Ganker
only correct answer.
I want 4 homies in a line not 4 homies online.
The spirit of cooperative play is dead.
You will just get zoomies racing from one quest to another, playing the most hyper-optimal arisen/pawn combo, and the most """co-op""" moment you might get is fighting a big monster together or bumping into each other at town.
Keeping it a pure, single player adventure won't dilute or gamify the experience, you get more invested in pawns and their growth, and you experience the world at your own pace.
Honestly, co-op/multiplayergays and ESPECIALLY pvpgays deserve to be btfo and left behind
There's no good reason to not want coop so yeah its just contrarianism.
It'll be less people using pawns and kill the pawn ecosystem so less people get their rented.
>can only coop as the players pawn
Done, fixed, solved
Then playing in someone else's world would be considered a waste of time and you couldn't play as what you wanted to. Games like MW5 have done that and people shit on it. So why take dev time away from it?
So you want 4 arisens all running around in the same world with 12 pawns?
>can change vocation at any time in DD1
Wow you change your pawn to what you want to play in 0.3 seconds how inconvenient
>So you want 4 arisens all running around in the same world with 12 pawns?
Nah, but its evident you're a disingenuous homosexual so actual discussion is pointless, so dilate troony.
This is straight up false though.
DD is already a grinding game, especially if you want to have all the classes, and face high level post game bosses, I cannot imagine who grind it will be with a forced coop mode.
Also this
Just leave us alone.
>we just want to get married goy
>why do you care about what we do!
>HOW WILL IT AFFECT YOU IN ANY WAY!
it's always the same tactics with these homosexuals
there is no timeline in which adding co-op 'doesn't change the base game' for the worse
It's like that meme where a community is invaded and ruined by normalgays, except this time they leave because it didn't change like they wanted it to.
Well anons, thread's over, filthy frogposter ruined it
>le israelites
tfw you just discovered /misc/ and need to insert how based you are in every conversation.
>Is regurgitating greedreddit consensus in a fanboy thread
>calling anyone else a normalgay
lol.
You lost. Street Fighter was a success. DD2 is gonna be a world wide success. Seeth, cope and dilate, rabbi.
>shilling a focus group fighting game with trannies and joggers out the ass
>"rabbi"
DDgays cant be real, theres no way.
Hey chat GPT, write me an essay on why DD should have coop.
I'm chat GPT and due to pride month I think the people that want coop are homosexuals.
You lost trannoid, you can't doompost for shit because you get triggered too easily. Your discord is laughing at you whenver you're not online by the way. KWAB
SF has had blacks since it was actually good you disingenuous homosexual. Why the frick do /misc/gays try so hard to astroturf capcom of all companies?
>capcom of all companies
sorry bro. The black trannies in SF6 are actually based and redpilled.
>Gankerds
Theres just not need for it
You will never be the real dangan
People seem to forget, we got DD coop, DDO was DD coop. I wanted DD2 not DDO2.
The advent of multiplayer in the game came with a whole host of gameplay changes that could not be avoided in singleplayer, simple shit like having inventory be in real time rather than pause the game also came with changes to how simple they made consumables, how many you can carry, how you use them and the weight management affecting character creation, everything is simplified and streamlined to allow for smooth coop.
Think RE4 going to RE5. You could play it solo but the game is fundamentally changed by the fact that they built the game to account for coop.
>simple shit like having inventory be in real time rather than pause the game
I actually hope this doesn't comeback, menushit is not what I want out of an action game.
It's not an action game. It's an adventure
Since when was the gameplay turnbased?
>turnbased
???
Well you said it wasn't an action game and adventure on its own isn't a real genre.
>play mystic knight on PS3
>game is turn based
This is a very good point, and you're completely correct. Admittedly I didn't consider how much the carrying, weight, and item use would effect co op, It has been a long time since I've played DDO but looking back I do remember missing all of that.
I'm sorry your friends suck
Training pawns is part of the charm and unique -quality of the original. Very few, if any games, have emergent AI companions in an RPG that you train with your input and actions. Why would I want to replace that with a player when I could be using my friend's pawn instead?
>Join friends world as your pawn
>the game records your behaviors the same way your pawn does when playing alongside you in your world
>your pawn remembers the missions and monsters you interacted with while playing as them
>they retain this information when you're playing solo in your own world
There you go
Oh yes completely sidestep the whole fricking point of teaching your own pawn to act in the way you want.
Shit, shit and more shit.
This seems neat, but I feel it could easily be abused. like looking up all the elemental weaknesses of each monster, and deliberately "training" your pawn by exploiting each of them, making your pawn much smarter than pawns made by people who don't or can't play co op, Which doesn't seem fair
i miss it so much
The main point of pawns is that you're their leader/trainer
>still only 1 main pawn
Oh well. At least the larger map is good, if they manage to actually put shit in it this time that is.
My honest genuine reaction upon seeing no release date
>4 TIMES THE SIZE
Why am I getting deja vu....
>"Unfortunately for you, however, you are pawnless."
I always worry that they're talking about pixel count whenever they say this. So you end up with a map that's technically the same size relative to the player, but is 4x pixel denser thus "4 times the size". It's a cheap ass marketing trick that Bethesda abuses often
Can't fricking wait until it releases.
>4 times the NOTHING of DD
wow
16 TIMES THE DETAIL
>4 times the size
>no eternal ferry stone dlc item
four gran sorens
four cassardis'
Maybe more
Imagine
gran soren city design was a major highlight of the first game for me. It felt like an actual big city with lots of people going around compared to the Bethesda crap that had 2 meter walls and like 5 npcs walking around. if they can make an even bigger gran soren/multiple cities like that in DD2 i will kneel so hard
mods/cheat eninge
you guys are pussies.
it will be kino if they limited fast travel like base DD. they won't
>doubting Itsuno fought all this time just to cave in to suit demands instead of delivering kino
> Not wanting to get lost, woefully under-levelled and under prepared in a forest after dark when the predators come out, fighting desperately until finally the sun finally comes up, the predators recede and you are left standing, master of all you survey and finally able to get your bearings back into town floating on air like the champion you are.
God I hope so. Fast travel is too unbelievably convenient to resist when it's present, but every open world game I've ever played without it has benefited immensely from its absence.
Thatd be good though. Fast travel is a surefire way to make any world, now matter how big, feel like a small series of hubs rather than a world. Just add fast travel points or some form of travel.
>get stuck in the wilderness in the dark with little oil for the lantern
>go towards light in the distance, and discover the healing springs
>tay there till daytime, whilst fending off phantoms that are attacking from the darkness
Shit like this was lost with the eternal ferrystone being immediately available in the final version of the game. Nighttimes in DD were handled better than most games let alone RPGs, because it was actually fricking dark and the light source consumed oil.
I wish they add Fast Travel mechanic like transportation than teleporting to the location.
>new classes
>4x time size
>GIGA AI
>no co-op shit
DD chads just keep winning.
was this picture made after the dd2 announcement? fricking kek
What will the new vocations be?
I'm thinking summoner, crossbowman and maybe some kind of melee tank.
Theres a Magic class with something that looks like a ball on a chain and theres a Twin bladed magic class shown in the trailer briefly. They looks sick
> Unarmed monk.
> Make Jackie Chan face in the character creator.
My body is ready and looking for no trubble
Cat lady looked like a priestess, probably going to be a cleric class
it's really not coming out until 2025 huh? you're telling me I have to go 1.5+ more years without killing myself huh?
Capcom generally don't reveal games and market them unless they're about a year away, though Pragmata is an exception. DD2 only got announced on the 10th anniversary for the fans. March-May 2024 seems most likely to me but I feel they would have told us already if that were the case.
>4 times the size!
>Still empty
bravo
Not gonna lie, pretty bumped out with no co-op
mods will fix it, just like the co-op and pvp mods for DMC5
NAISU, at least i'll be optional to make fromhomosexuals to cope and seethe.
Website was updated
>challenges your creativity
So it isn't "push button, watch animation" anymore?
>anymore
DD was never about watching canned animations.
That's all it's magic was
> He didn't realize that Sorcerer is a highly mobile class with a comically strong, if extremely short, melee attack.
> He didn't bully goblin shamans in BBI by b***h-slapping them off cliffs, or deliver the final blow to a dragon with a flying leap after melting them with holy spam standing right under their snout.
Sucks to be you.
nice
Pure soul right here
>destroy suspension bridge to win a fight
>suddenly realise you destroyed the most direct path to your destination
>have to take a detour through an even more dangerous part of the map
KINO
>yup, that's me on the bridge, you wonder how I got there ?
I hope there's more environmental interaction and destructive stuff than just bridges.
It's a single player game, not a coop game. Trying to implement and then balance coop takes time and resources. You can't even try the normal moronic homosexual defense of "Well you're not taking THAT much time and effort away from other things by-" that you subhuman apes like to ramble on about because DD is a game that desperately needed more time for development. No one who actually likes the game wants a single man hour wasting on a feature for gays who didn't like the game for what it was or what it was trying to accomplish in the first place.
>I hope there's more environmental interaction and destructive stuff than just bridges.
you can also pull monster legs
surcoat
kinda looks like a gambison
feels like it's rare for games to use these over just knights in armor
being said i hope we get more armor fashion in DD2
Imagine the Pawn banter
>Tis easily cut!
>ACTION
based Itsuno action games are the best
I might actually buy Starfield just to cope with the fact DD2 isn't coming out anytime soon.
>nothing new until at least TGS
I just can't wait any longer. And even then I bet it will be some summer 2024 release. Goddamnit.
You've waited for a decade, you can wait another year. Though I hope its not summer, I get paranoid running demanding titles in the summer.
Imagine the length of the escort quests in a much larger map bros
>length of the escort missions
>go to location before quest
>place warp stone
>start quest
>fast travel to warp stone
simple as
>take npc halfway around the world once
>end up fricking their ass without any say in the matter at the end of the game
i'm still going to check where the destination is and place a portcrystal beforehand so i can just teleport there instantly
How big is the original world?
What was that new vocation?
I'm more hyped for the new vocations, the combat is great in the first game, and I wanna see if they add a more varied roster of weapons
Will we finally get to fight dragons on the moon?
Post yfw co-op gays btfo
Can someone post a webm of the greatsword pawn fighting alonside the arisen? Looked slick and maybe some new moves
Looks like striders have a new dash move
Really should have co-op, pawns are just cope for them being to lazy / inept to add co-op and people that are anti co-op are friendless losers who it wouldn't effect anyway.
Also, 4 times the size is a big red flag. Open world games are consistently barren and empty, with key locations of actual interest spaced out by big fields of nothing that don't add to the game besides pointless travel time.
Your post is garbage and your opinions are all wrong. Really glad Itsuno doesn't give a single flying frick what morons like you think.
>4 times larger
OR
>4 times denser
My fear with a lot of open world games is that most developers think people want the former when in reality the later is way better. I don't just want a frick huge map with nothing to do it in.
I want a map with a ton of shit like dungeons and catacombs and shit in it
It's 4 times larger. That's what they said in moon. If it's 4 times as large as DD all around but scaled up "in proportion" then that's good. gays who b***h endless if an open world game requires you to run more than 10 seconds before finding a new major event in any given direction are moronic.
Math could be wrong, but going off DD1 world being half the size of Skyrim.
4 x bigger would be about 30 miles or 47km. ER is apparently 80km.
Ah a fellow out "hold W for 30 minutes" ward fan
Too late. Monkeys hear the word "bigger" then they ape out.
autists invent new reasons to worry even if it doesn't make any sense.
I like open spaces in games, but preferring density is subjective. If there is a thing around every corner it just feels like a theme park, which kills the point of an immersive world. I would love it if more shit was interactive though, like being able to have some kind of use for most flora, so you can rp a druid or potion crafter
There is a good balance to be found
GIVE US DDO VOCATIONS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
All I want them to add is High Scepter, I hope they actually do it.
They already made a bow-only class along with a daggers-only class, pretty sure they will add them
>zoomer troonyggers seething because no co-op
>literally the only game shown to not have the mc as a Black person
>pawns confirmed back
dragons dogma chads eating good tonight
>b-b-b-b-b-but no release date
nobody cares Black person zoomer kys
>not have the mc as a Black person
New Arisen btw
all races can be arisen, DD1 it was only humans that could be skinned as gobbos.
God it's so bad need modders to fix asap
idk man. I feel like it's either this or deal with actual homosexuals and bara shit.
That "lion" is a shrivelled prune old man
Looks nothing like a proud feline warrior
That armor rules. Reminds me of FFXI.
e-girl NPCs confirmed at least.
found my Beloved.
>All these "people" who want co-op
Ganker truly is dead.
r*ddit trannies shut down their website today so all those subhumans are posting here
those posts do not reflect Ganker's general opinion
I want r*ddit and d*scord to die so we can have less consolidation of the internet but everyone knows those subhumans would just flock into something just as bad.
Remember, no compromises with co-op Black folk.
They're not human beings.
And it better be fricking DARK at night and full of Liches!
DDO actually had an overlord crossover
And it better let ME play as the lich, how about that?
(even if it doesn't happen there's definitely a way to mod that in)
Yeah I'm curious if they expand on necromancy and let you actually do it. We had some nice spells but it needs it's own vocation.
Originally my hopes where they show a release date and my fear was a very late release date. Didn't even occur to me that they aren't going to show anything AT ALL. Which is obviously even worse.
Can't steal Exoprimal's thunder now, can we?
gonna pirate it day one
Today I found out you can kill the lion head on a chimera before fully killing the beast
>at 0:05 the strider pawn puts his dagegrs on flame son his own
I'm cummin'
also fighter has the shield on his back while exploring, nice
>Shield works properly
MAGIC KNIGHT BROS
They did in the first game too. Magic shields are the specific type that stayed on the back while normal shields stayed on the arm. I'm still certain they'll fix this for 2 if magic shields/mystic knight are in the game again.
>Strider has their daggers forward pointing
RUINED
Nah, Unironically backwards facing daggers was used for STABBING, but Striders did nothing but slashing.
Backwards facing daggers should be used for climbing up monsters, essentially using them like picks while also dealing small amounts of damage each time you stab it in.
Would be cool if there was a stance mechanic and Striders go from slashing with forward facing to doing cool assassination stabs and dashes with the reverse grip
More games need stance mechanics. Would be fricking sick. Imagine fighters having
>duelist stance
>stance for groups
>heavy stance
>Sword-first stance that is aggresive, with lunges, slashes and parries.
>Shield-first stance that is about hammering the enemy with the shield, blocking and overpowering through attacks.
That's a nice little dagger fire imbue attack.
>holds the sword in sheath when not in combat
Huh, Savan descendant seems to still be the default human preset?
Does capcom show anything ever at gamescom?
>that one-handed sword attack animation
Ohnononono dogmabros... Did Capcom use mocap this time?
What type of Arisen/Pawn will you make?
I'll probably make a Female Cat Sorcerer Arisen with a Male Fighter Pawn. Depending on the new Magic classes Ill switch to those instead
magic archer with a magic archer pawn and two magic archer supports.
If Spears are in the game the Seirei no Moribito dream is real.
god i wish
Gigachad warrior and femboy sorc
Male Strider and his female catgirl warrior wife.
4 times nothing is nothing.
unless it has shit going on in thte world it won't matter.
>some shitty reddit class instead of Alchemist
Alchemy bros we do we keep losing......
Alchemist was too anime. We're trying to keep things grounded in D&D anon. Hell even D&D alchemists don't do the shit they did.
because D&D alchemists are fricking boring and can barely do shit. D&D in general has boring and pathetic classes, playing a rank 3 fighter in dragon's dogma is a better power fantasy while still remaining fairly grounded than a max level D&D fighter.
I FRICKING HATE 5E SO GOD DAMN MUCH
I MADE AN ALCHEMIST AND THAT WAS THE MOST MISERABLE SHIT EVER FRICK I WANT TO SHOOT GOBLINS WITH GOLDEN SHOTGUNS
Maybe this game isn't for you. Perhaps BDO is more your speed.
>Alchemist
Korean MMO class
Cringe/Based
I want FANTASY
Tell that to the mystic knight, I want to punch ogres in the dick.
>mystic knight,
Nothing wrong with mystic knight.
>mystic knight
Mystic knight doesn't rocket punch the air to jet across the screen and punch count down rocks until they explode. Alchemist is a shitty reskin of royal guard that COG made with no care for how DD works because they needed to appeal to korean twitch macro gays.
If you actually wanted to punch ogres in the dick you'd be asking for them to finally make a monk class like they had originally planned to before it got scrapped.
I still hope they didn't show all the vocations yet and we get Mystic Knight and the DDO classes.
>and the DDO classes.
No frick off with your korean mmo garbage.
The industry is full of your co-op twitch slop for you and your moronic discord trannies.
KYS
>no release date, no release date, no release date, no release date...
>youtube stream chat was comparing it to skyrim and ER
I want to die
DD2 will be compared to ER, and it'll lead to a contrarianism/dunking period for some months, like DaS1 and Skyrim 12 years ago.
It's fine bro. Itsuno won, and we get to share the spoils. If normalgays eat it up and carry the torch it's just a bonus to /ourguy/.
>Verification not required.
Has anyone here played dragon's dogma online with friends before? It's a great time.
I think co op would be a lot of fun, for some reason people assume it would be forced, and that they would have to play with randoms. nobody would do that, are you moronic? people would just play with their friends.
I hope co op is implemented later, I like how they're focusing in on the single player and pawn ai and making them as good as they can be, I'm glad they aren't wasting resources trying to make co op right now, but if they take the time after the games released to really refine it, it would be so goddamn fun to play with my 3 friends and frick shit up together
i love my bros
>Has anyone here played dragon's dogma online with friends before? It's a great time.
See
This ISN'T FRICKING DRAGON'S DOGMA ONLINE
mystic knight with optional duel wielding when?
Shields are lame.
Mashallah melee pawns won't be braindead this time when you're playing a ranged vocation
>re engine
coomer bros we are eating good
>Male
>Fighter vocation
>e-girl pawn
>Mage
Yup, it’s gaming time
>Describing my very first playthrough
what kind of magic is this I did eventually evolved into Mystic Knight but still
This will literally be me
built for human males
This will literally be my pawn
Todd Howard will be your pawn?
alchemist can't be playable by players because you'll break any games economy by crafting all the potions yourself
>4 TIMES THE SIZE
(Assuming this means twice as wide and tall).
So uh is this actually good? Was "not enough square mileage of geography" actually a problem in the first game?
it means more content
Ideally yes, the density of content would remain the same and thus a 4x bigger map would mean 4x as much content. But knowing how open world game development often goes, I'm not sure that will be the case.
OK, that's a good way to put it in perspective. Half of ER's size (though does that account for the big hole in the middle of ER's map?) sounds pretty manageable.
I definitely think they're talking about map size, that's much easier to quantify than "content" in general.
>knowing how open world game development often goes
I wouldn't compare DD to any modern open world tbh
first one had no copy pasted locations at all, and if they keep that aspect on a 4x times the size map, it'll be glorious
>and if they keep that aspect on a 4x times the size map
Well yeah, that's the difficult part, isn't it? We'll see how they do. I'm sure Capcom is giving them more development resources, and modern tooling makes it easier for level + quest designers to pump out content with less help from artists and programmers. But it's also a 2-generation fidelity leap from 1, and covid probably screwed with early development. Hopefully they don't try to push it out before 2025.
>the empty, dead world From continuously does is really tired
Yeah. They generally sacrifice other aspects of their games to focus very narrowly on combat-related content (enemies to fight, stuff to fight them with, places to fight them in). They've been doing it for ~7 games and have a very efficient pipeline. The amount of that content they pumped out for ER was pretty impressive, but the style of bleak minimalism they use in their worlds to enable that starts to feel repetitive.
The hope is that DD2 will be what ER failed to be, and given Capcom is much more competent than From, I think they will succeed shilling aside.
I don't hate ER, I had a blast, but I never plan to return to it, and I don't really care about its DLC, the empty, dead world From continuously does is really tired. I want Japanese Witcher 3/Elder Scrolls.
The game has been in development since 2019, it better be filled with shit to do
I think it applies to map size and content.
ER world is 80km I think, and based off DD1 map being half Skyrim's size, that'd put it at about 30km (squared?).
It seems like the map will be half the size of ER, but have more stuff to do and proper content.
That likely just means overall content, not literal map size unless they specified it.
If it's 4 times the size and also have more unique areas like Witchwood and the abbey and some more catacombs and caves, then that's fricking awesome.
>all dd chads celebrating the "literally nothing" reveal
>all zoomers seething because its not co-op slop so they wont play
literally the perfect announcement
imagine playing a game knowing that no r*dditors are playing it and by extention ruining it
itsuno, i kneel
I KNEEL
I unironically hope this series continues to gatekeep itself
I love seeing cooptrannies seethe, go to any single player game on steam and type "coop" when you search on discussion and you will see cooptrannies begging for a coop mode
Bros I kinda want to stop watching anything to do with the game so I can experience it completely blind for the first time. What do you guys think?
>just a bigger better version of the first game
>no unnecessary changes to appeal to normalgays
Itsuno is a good man I hope this turns out to be his magnum opus
>Bigger version of the first game
What more can one ask? Alchemist would be cool if it pops back though
I want a monk/martial artist vocation with gauntlets as its weapons just so I can properly punch Grigori in his dumb lizard face
after playing pizza tower I want to be able to suplex grigori for all eternity down the everfall chasm
I just said monk because it is an archetypal fantasy class.
A brawler vocation with grabs and punches would be a dream come true.
Where is it Itsuno?
Bros, the strider put his weapons on fire on his own
No more waiting for mages to cast support spells?
Is that an item or a skill?
0.19 fighter is in a mid-roll animation but it might be a sprint roll
daggers get a quick dash, maybe new dodge roll animation
daggers are on fire, which still disables the burning goblin
0.56 new unsheathed fighter running animation with the shield on his back
0.59 new animations for the basic attack combo for swords
1.01 new dagger move that imbues them with fire
1.01 warrior goes to town on that goblin's back
1.13 new warrior move like an upward strike
1.41 the combo after blink strike is not the basic attack seen previously (no diagonal slashes)
1.42 cool hitbox miss from the goblin attack
2.15 fighter using tusk toss
2.16 maybe new warrior unsheathed running animation followed up by new move
3.22 we get to see the twin blade attack animation
you are cool
Yeah, I'm sure of it now, that's definitely a twinblade. Doesn't really look like a staff attack animation.
Can someone post the image of all the threads with the announcement
GODtsuno is saving vidya one kino at a time
Everything about this game designed around (You) and pawns. Pawn is like a pokemon. Every content you beat you beat either solo or with pawns. No one is helping you except pawns desinged and trained by other players. It's a pawn economy. Closed system. Like a cancer any co-op shit will ruin entire system like always.
You're too stupid to understand this because you're coop Black person.
>You can only engage in co op if you make a pawn
>You can only play as your pawn in other worlds, and they will still get rented out
fixed pawn economy, easy
>You can only play as your pawn
You don't really understand what pawn is?
Read again. Everything in this game is achieved solo without your troony help. Your troony friend can't boost your zoomer ass. Everything in this game designed, balanced for one sapient human being with AI toddlers. Your kind killed shit tons of games.
KYS
>troony troony troony!!! zoomer!!!
Regardless of co op the game will be broken and manipulated by people who want to be carried to the end without putting in effort. that's what blast arrows are for.
Frick off with your disingenuous shit stirring you crippled moron
Doesn't matter. You break game alone. Without any help.
>map is FOUR times as big
>wolves hunt in packs FOUR times as large
>their kind attacks women (or men) FOUR times as ferociously
>the duke aught to commission FOUR new roads
WE'RE BACK BABY
hunt in packs FOUR times as large
no longer wolf Packs! Now we have wold SWARMS!
>All roads lead to Cassardis
YES
>10x the number of enemies
>all of them are weak to fire
>10x the Golems
FRICK!
>10x the METAL GOLEMS
AAAAAH
>It has the head of FOUR wieners
>approach tree
>it is actually FOUR trees up close
kino
like so many verdant children!
LEL frick man these threads are so funny
>Seems all FOUR roads lead to Gran Soren
What I want for DD2
>Hot swap between classes outside of town
>Ability use any weapon of any class
>BONE ZONE spells
>unlimited number of port crystals
>THE MOON
>Post game dungeon crawl zone with procedural rooms
Anyone else still hoping for a V style Summoner vocation?
The map was small so 4x isn't even than big
ER map is about 80km.
Skyrim is 37km apparently.
DD1 map is half the size of Skyrim, 4x that puts it at twice the size of Skyrim's map I believe. Correcting myself from earlier, that'd put it at 74km? Not 30. (It'd be about 30 miles, not km, my mistake). So fairly close to ER's world size if that's actually the case.
Itsuno OWES me a necromancer class
He doesn't owe you SHIT! Though I wouldn't mind a vocation like that.
What's the point of designing V in DMC 5 if you can't copy paste his concept? I need a bone army and I need it now.
all humanoid skeletons or beast skeletals as well?
If it has bones, I wanna control it, simple 'as.
Can't wait for those spartan escort missions from one end of the map to the other.
>mfw remembering Bloodwater Beach escort missions
THE WIND IS PUSHING ME
All I want is for them to change spawns. The same monsters spawning at the same place every time I walk by is just tedious
How is dragon back if the eternal cycle got ended in the first game
>he thinks he actually ended the cycle
it's a prequel
Time is convoluted
But also you didn't understand the game nor beat it
you are another fricking chain in the cycle. You can literally fight your past run character
>tfw night time
LAAAAAAAND AND SKYYYYYYYY
This games success depends enitrely on if we get another kino intro song. No dark arisen shit I want more FRYING INTO FREE
>16x the detail
>entire trailer is the devs coping about how it's "just as good as real co-op"
>cult fanbase eats it up and claims those shitty grapes were sour anyway
lmao
World looking comfy.
>children confirmed
Many wandering pawns will be sacrificed to the Brine.
Why do Capcom and Itsuno want this game to fail? They need to add co-op or no one will buy this game, are they fricking stupid?
>be co-op gay
>speedrun the game in order to clear backlog as fast as possible
>sperg out at every minor inconvenience
>start inting and throwing tantrums every second
>mash the shield button every two seconds
>choose the most obnoxious homosexual arisen design
>try to play through every encounter as optimally as possible
>grind the same three fights in order to minmax gear
>faceroll the same optimal set-up (stolen from some homosexual guide)
>spam invites and friend requests
>BM over not getting your way
>banned for voice chat
>banned for text chat
>*requires capcom id*
>stalks your dms
OR
>be pawn 1, pawn 2, and/or pawn 3,
>not a redditor
>not a troony
>not a Black person
>not from globohomo
>no zoomer memespeak
>a fictional native from a fictional fantasy setting
>can be whatever/whoever you want
>never breaks character
>always reacts realistically to the situation at hand
I'd much rather co-op with an actual necromancer (female) than with some discord gay.
amen
Why did just admitbto using discord and havving troony friends?
I remember the map being pretty small all thi gs considered so 4 times that is honestly not that impressive sounding.
Half the map was inaccessible areas as well
What crossover will there be this time?
DDO has a shitton of crossovers and none of the items are moddable to DD1, i hope people can mod them in DD2.
>Fix hydra camera POV when climbing
>remove Eliminators ENTIERLY
>Don't have almost all supporting cast disappear 2/3 of the way through the game
>Do not even TRY making the true love based on bullshit parameters. give player full control.
>have infused weapons damage ghosts to give melee fighters some options ffs
>make ogres fun instead of damage sponge
i will now buy your game and call it kino
>he cant win against eliminators in a 1v1 as a warrior
ngmi
parrying is finicky on DD1.
as if it requires skill or something like that...
I don't play assassin that much, but I was talking about warriors and they cant parry. They only have exodus slash
piss off. those creatures where hell on earth.
filtered. they were fun as frick and i unironically love fighting them
it's kind of hysterical that someone that calls themselves nobunaga is so incredibly bad at gay board warfare
can you discordhomosexuals frick off and die already?
i mean both of you, you make yourselves too fricking obvious.
do you think there's warring discords or something?
your homosexual kind is one and the same, making your question pointless.
homie u dumb
thank you for ousting yourself.
Guys, they added a new screenshot to the website!
*holds shield up 4 times*
ez
OH FRICK
FOUR OF THEM!?
>Enemy has a team to rival yours
F O U R ROCKS
>Game has co-op
>"Hey bro come on man we're like level 30 already lets go lets fricking go I need some mats from harpies"
>Need to rush the story to keep pace with friends
>Pacing is fricked, nothing makes sense, everything turns grey.
Happens so fricking often, and then there's finally an oasis of a game where you can take things at your own pace without having to think about anything online and noooOOOooo
>Bro Co OP is totally so good bro I mean that way I can pretend the pawns don't exist at all and now it just makes them inferior AI companions for friendless losers instead of stalwart friends that grow alongside them on their personal journey.
Do you have any fricking clue what happens to your AI cat when you hunt in Monster Hunter multiplayer? You shelve that fricker because it's just fricking annoying and gets in the way of co-op. It would completely ruin the whole point of the fricking game.
>I hate coop and social interaction because I'm a pussy b***h that lets everyone boss me around
>additionally I cannot be left out of anything I must do everything at the same time as everyone else
get help
Sorry bro Co op aint happening but you can still cry about it.
Remember all those stories about pawns in DD threads?
>bro just paly coop pawns are dumb fr fr
>no cap pawns shit cleared giga dark Grigori with my fellas in 1 minute naked
>imagine using pawns XD
it always ends up like this
>Dude pawns r fricking moronic why did capcom even add them lmaaoooooo
>You shelve that fricker because it's just fricking annoying and gets in the way of co-op
So you morons hate coop because you are morons? Bring my dog or cat to any damn hunt I feel like.
>if it has optional co op I cannot stop myself from participating in something I don’t like and cannot play it by myself
okay
thanks for the reddit spacing and reddit opinion
If it has optional co-op then anything pertaining to the game discussion outside of the co-op will die and pawns become secondary.
Why train pawns when you can just play with your pal?
If you read the thread you'd know several DDgays admitted to not having friends and not enjoying the company of other human beings in general.
because you don’t want to?
like half the people in this thread claim?
can you not stop yourself from doing something if you have the option?
You clearly don't know much about game design.
>have pawn
>make pawn role also a playable co op character
>oh no it’s slightly easier for someone now ahhh the game design
i don’t think you know anything about it
if you can’t make that system work you’re a dogshit developer
Now the pawn is not designed as your AI companion, but as a receptable for Co-op.
You don't seem to understand the difference, sad!
>design the pawn ai
>allow it to also not be ai
sorry your pajeet brain cannot understand this, try again next time
That's why it's game design, not the mechanics of the pawn AI, but as I said, you don't understand what that means.
you’re being too limited with your scope
if you think you cannot, or it’s bad design to design an AI system that is not forced to be used then please tell me what games you make so I can never interact with them you fart sniffing psued
>psued
The irony
>Entire point of Pawns is they have no soul and need directions from being around another Arisen
>DUDE JUST CONTROL A PAWN EASY
>can’t change the point at all because of your autism
okay
>Changing an important plot point of the entire setting for an arbitary game mechanic addition
How does Co-op add to the game exactly?
let’s the pawn be some soulless br I met instead of a soulless ai
Why the hell would anyone choose to interact with Brazillians?
An option for people who want to use it.
So it doesn't add anything to the game as a whole, simply existing to placate a few people?
And therefore another arisen soul possessing them through some means makes perfect sense
And yes, before you ask, other player characters existing in their own game worlds operating concurrently with yours is literally how the DD world works
Except we know what happens when an Arisen passes a soul onto their Pawn, with the ending of DD and Selene's questline.
You're asking to break the fundamental part of the setting simply because you think semi-social interaction would make the game better.
You have a mistaken idea of how that system works, anon
You are not possessing your pawn, they simply become their own person and gain a will that winds up appearing similar to you through exposure
Your headcanon is not a fundamental part of the setting
No, YOU are misunderstanding. Your "Soul" in DD is your will to move, your literal ability to be the protagonist.
When you finish the game, you pass that on to your Pawn and your previous character becomes the seneschal.
Oh, you're a meta homosexual
Nevermind, I assumed I was talking with someone who had some kind of opinion on canon concepts
Enjoy your weird autistic fixation, redditor
That's literally how the world works, it's "Meta" because the game is based entirely on free will.
The Seneshal outright points that out, the Selene quest points that out. Pawns are brainless Murder-NPCS, they don't even have the willpower to be normal people in the world.
point of Pawns is they have no soul and need directions from being around another Arisen
newsflash moron. (You) are the Arisen.
Yes, you are the Arisen, the world revolves around you. You leaving your world is not an option.
>because you don’t want to?
This is not how it works dumb coopBlack person.
That's exactly how it works, I've played monhun solo for years.
>I've played monhun solo for years.
Absolute moron. Majority of people play MH online/coop. This entire series was coop centric. You play coop and you farm everything in nanosecond. But in MH your farm materials only for you. In DD it's not. You have pawn. KYS.
Go play any other souls clone
so you didn't engage in KT or Jiva
got it
you played a worse game because co-op functionality changed what you wanted form a single player experience
Got full armorsets for both tho. I genuinely don't get why you morons just can't admit you don't have a good reason to not want coop outside of contrarianism.
I still have a visceral reaction of nausea when I think about that empty, empty world and endlessly repeated NPC dialog. The fighting was good, apart from that it was an absolute travesty.
Pretty sure some aughtistic frick will reverse engineer DMC V weird coop thingy to dragons dogma just like they did for MT and DMC 4
I hope there's still pause combos. The one handed sword pause combo from 1 is still really satisfying.
I fricking love the greatsword version. Such a satisfying combo
Is he holding that in reverse grip?
>ACK
>Would be better with co-
>goodbye cruel world
i love how elephanty they are
i'd be fine with limited co-op (something like DMCV's cameo system) but fleshing out how pawns interact with players would be a better move
>pawns will comment how other arisen dealt with certain problems, listing them as subjective choices rather than ways to complete quests
>you can send pawns to deliver gifts to players on your friends list, and they'll seek that player out in their world
>if you and a player have hired each other's pawns, you can choose to lend them for a time, having their pawn act as your main pawn for a while
the entire point is you feel the presence of other players filtered through pawns. you get the impression of what they play like and what they did, but never meet them directly. i think that's neat.
Never played the first, is there a class that let's me punch stuff in the face?
Not really, but you can make something that works like it between the unarmed combat, some skills and some items
I remember a long time ago when DD threads were the comfiest threads
TOTAL
SHAZAM
DEATH
>Demon souls / early Dark Souls threads
>Nier threads
>Dragon Dogma threads
newbies will never know how chill these threads were in the past
Obligatory
Frick I'm so happy
>ps2 era kojima technology
>only had replies because he made it about coomer e-girl shit
so being able to picked up by enemies, water putting out fire and your character size dictating what entry ways you can fit through is what’s good about the game?
>coomer
Frick off back to whence you came, homosexualron
i came from here
e-girl shit is pathetic and should stay on /b/
if that same exact post was made but it wasn’t a e-girl he was talking about, no one would have made that image
you only think its neat because you’re a pedophile
same reason why the replies in the picture about the little girl and not the fact there were goblin caves or harpies or anything else
>i came from here
You did not. Now frick off back to neogaf or whatever shithole you came from
i did no matter how much you wanna believe it or not
if you didn’t find out about Ganker from your wow guild members in the mid 2000’s you missed out
sorry I’m not obsessed over e-girls and pedo shit, or care about e-girls going into caves or being small
I'm not reading your post, redditgay. Frick off.
>replied to it
>auto capitals
frick off to reddit phone using scum
homie shut your b***h ass up, Sellen is ''jailbait'' the character and she still got that Arisen wiener inside her nonetheless.
Yep, Reddit is on strike, thanks for letting us know. Why not try Resetera?
>i came from here
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
I don't remember there being this much perpetual seethe over the idea of co-op in DD threads before 2 got officially announced, even when it directly got brought up as something someone wanted for a hypothetical sequel.
What happened?
Also
>All these people coping by saying "they'll just mod it in like DMC5"
Pretty sure that only worked because the cameo system could already function as a very limited co-op mode, doubt it would happen for DD unless there's a similar feature or there's some truly dedicated autismo modders who want to make it happen.
>I don't remember there being this much perpetual seethe over the idea of co-op in DD threads
I'm not reading that, have a nice day, co-optroon. No ERP for you.
literally all stemmed from pic related
normies and their idol streamers saw interacting with ai, which is so profoundly advanced to them that they headcannoned co-op
and when they learned naught seethe begain
>and when they learned naught seethe begain
[Citation Needed]
all i see are fromhomosexuals and some discord b***hes that keep seething at DD because they lost the never ever shitposting power once DD2 was announced.
why are gays in this thread shitting their pants over other games or whatever coop for a SINGLE PLAYER game, seems very artificial?
Just be glad one of the most kino title is coming back to life
>seems very artificial
You always should feed bait posts if you have opportunity and in the mood. It's in your interest to make a contribution in mental degradation of those posters.
Map size literally means nothing. Starfield is x10000000 the biggest map ever but its all procedurally generated nothingness so it doesn't matter. I'd rather a map be small and filled with real content than be like Ubisoft where a giant map is full of copypasted garbage
Arisen's armor looks cool
>LONGSWORD
>ONE HAND
please tell me that's not just a pose for the render.
longswords are easily one handed not sure why you're so surprised he's using a shield with it
>inb4 Beastren exclusive
You can see him running with it here
Nope the new gameplay shows it's how you carry the greatsword while unsheathed but not attacking.
And before you cry about realism, that is literally how Zweihander's were carried when not swinging them because it's a long metal object so shouldering it is better.
might be because longswords are what greatswords were called in dd1
Man I love the little Robin hood hat returns.
Everyone talking about making tiny wives, Im here for the armour porn.
armored e-girl
>Arisen is wearing a very restrictive looking helmet in both pieces of key art
Think Phersu anon was truth telling?
i just think they're going for the dark souls ambiguous character look. the character could be either male/female.
4x the size? but it was literally EMPTY before. 4x what? Walking?
That's all I'm hearing. Dragons Dogma 1 was NOT a good game morons. Why are you somehow just expecting them to do an Elden Ring?
Elden Ring huh? You guys are BAD at this. You LOST.
Really gotta work on your bait, discordtrannies. Starting to get a little repetitive
THERE WAS 3 FRICKING DUNGEONS IN THE ENTIRE GAME YOU moronic MONKEY AND EACH ONE IS SMALLER THAN A FRICKING SKYRIM DUNGEON YOUR BRAIN IS ROTTED FUCC BOI ITS TIME TO GET ABSOLUTELY FRICKING
DESOLATED.
>the trannoid is meltingdown when found out
OH NO NO NO
You forgot Bitterblack Isle. You have been owned.
You didn't play the game. You will never be a woman, and you will never break the cycle.
>t.
If there's one thing I know it's that japanese cannot multiply. Dragon's Dogma 2 is actually 8x the size of DD1.
No, it’s twice. Dragons dogma 1 x 2 = Dragons dogma 2
SOMEONE GET TERRANCE HOWARD ON THIS SHIT
>In a 2015 interview with Rolling Stone, Howard explained that he had formulated his own language of logic, which he called Terryology, and which he was keeping secret until he had patented it. This logic language, he claimed, would be used to prove the statement "1 × 1 = 2".
>"How can it equal one?" he said. "If one times one equals one that means that two is of no value because one times itself has no effect. One times one equals two because the square root of four is two, so what's the square root of two? Should be one, but we're told it's two, and that cannot be."
They accidentally divided it by 4
Mystic knight spells better cause the frames to reach single digits or I ain’t playing
Konnichello, I am John Capcom. Gomenasorry for not having too many details about Dragon's Dogma 2 but I can confirm Mystic Knight can reverse your framerate and turn back the game at -5FPS.
>Mystic Knight gets time magic by attacking the enemies frame rate directly
'TIS WEAK TO LAG
SEVER THE FRAMERATE TO WEAKEN THE BEAST
Arisen! It has the netcode of a Slav!
It's fallen! Now! Rain st-st-st-st-st-st-st-st-st-st-st-st-st-st-steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel upon it!
This anon fricks. This anon knows what the frick he's talking about.
One of the main attractions of the pawn system is the fact that someone really did play with your pawn and have a good time.
You made that pawn the way it is and the person gets to experience them the way you intend.
All of that is lost as soon as you implement any Co-op bullshit as it simply supercedes the whole point. Is this so hard to grasp?
>Co-op bullshit as it simply supercedes the whole point.
But it doesn't. Why is every with coop shit according to you morons? Is Sonic & Knuckles bad because it has coop?
>sonictroon
>wants coop
what a plot twist
No, because Sonic and Knuckles was designed for Co-op, DD was not.
>No, because Sonic and Knuckles was designed for Co-op
Based moron.
Sonic & Knuckles was about Sonic teaming up with others.
DD is literally about a single Arisen on a quest to reclaim their heart.
If the story dictates mechanics why does a game like heroes not have coop since the game was about them teaming up?
I just love that the co-op seethe is just that. Seething. They lost.
Yea this.
When youre playing DD2 and are having a good time, remember that its because they didnt listen to you.
>if you don't co-op just don't engage with it!
>the game will be exactly the same if they chose to ad-ACK
it's the worst argument I've seen, and they'd have to be incredibly stupid to believe it wouldn't change anything if coop was added
>co op = cash shop
>the example used is a single player game
nice argument moron-kun
this is one of the most embarrassing threads I've seen about dragon's dogma in a long while.
co-op gays saying the game is shit without co-op, making morons who violently shit themselves at the prospect of optional human interaction in retaliation, everyone hates everyone else and troonyposters make the few reasonable frickers on either side of the debate look unhinged by association
I'm going to miss the cozy dd threads, i should have known the second dd got in the spotlight discord homosexuals and Gankertards would start organizing fecal bombing runs on everything in sight
ask me how i know your carbon monixide detector is beeping
because you can’t post a single good example as to how adding co op would monetise the game
That's yours.
*locks ur door and leaves u in the gas chamber like im hitler*
hmph...
*walks away and smokes a cigar as u choke to death*
Pathetic...
Pic unrelated?
They could literally do this with the pawn system, they already have a whole separate cash shop currency set up for it and everything
SUCH DEVASTATION
The discord raids are only making my love for DD2 stronger. Bring it on shazamtroons. SF6 won. DD2 won. Capcom won. No pretty kitties for you.
I can't wait for Monster Hunter so they can try to argue with console wars shit only for Monster Hunter Portable or some shit for the switch.
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>quick someone found us out what do we do????
>let's post the same pic we've been spamming for weeks
KEKKAROOOOO. You lost, trannoids. CHADcom won.
>buck broken so hard by discord trannies that he's defending actual trannies
It's really not looking good for Capcomgays.
> Over time, your Pawn will become a worthy companion on your journey, as they learn through their experiences, adventuring with you as well as with other players, which will be reflected in their behavior.
> as well as with other players
Hmmm...
> Get pawn.
> Teach them to constantly jump off cliffs.
> Send them back with a harpy feather.
Yeah I'm putting mine to invisible. Imagine all the medicant shitters out there teaching your pawn bad habits.
I will gently teach all pawns to swim.
Go away, Brine, you're not getting my e-girl healer!
anyone notice itsuno wearing the vergil coat for the presentation?
>4 TIMES THE SIZE
>When 75% of DD1 was fricking empty
>4 times the size
>Gransys
>Hearthstone
>Voldoa
>Meloire
How meta would it be if this time I played as my waifu and my PAWN was (Me) as my self insert?
It would be interesting to train myself and watch myself grow, and hear about me getting hired to go on adventures with others.
Might just be a shit idea though, idk
what if your mc was fantasy you and the pawn was irl you
There isn't any difference between the two other than I'm in a shitty universe where I have to wagecuck to make money and they are in the fun Vidya universe where you can walk outside and kill things indefinitely for money and also you level up and get magical powers and don't have to pay bills etc. Shit dude I'd pick up a sword and hunt monsters instead of going to work tomorrow if it was an option.
God I wish it was an option.
e-girl knight arisen
scantily clad giantess archer
old bastard sorc
Based, camp mechanics with obligatory food buffs when?
I hope Capcom would give Magick Knight more useful attacks besides using the same playstyle where you cast magic cannon and then spam full moon slash
>He wasn't a Stone-Forest/Stone-Jungle chad
>skill with long casting time
Yeah no
>Scared he might get knocked out of casting
>As a MK
Sounds like Magick Archer speak to me homosexual.
When I play mystic knight I mostly play it as a fighter with cool parries. Cannons are lame.
>see a Wyrm in the wild
>Holy riposte into a holy infused magic canon
>Delete al his life bars
>you shoot so many projectiles that your console dips into single digits fps
You can even do more silly shit with the sigil on the ground, then magic canon and then you perfect block
Seriously anon, Mystic Knight is the tohou class
What's weak to ice and fear both?