>4060 8gb
"NOOO DON'T BUY IT IT ONLY HAS 8GB"
>4060 Ti 16gb
"NOOO DON'T BUY IT IT'S A 4050 Ti"
>4070
"NOOO DON'T BUY IT JUST GET THE Ti"
>4070 Ti
"NOOO DON'T BUY IT JUST GET THE NON Ti"
>4080
"NOOO DON'T BUY IT IT'S TERRIBLE VALUE"
>4090
"NOOO DON'T BUY IT IT MELTS"
I just want to play fricking video games.
right. so get 3080 and save money
>10 gb VRAM
No, don't buy it. Unironically.
Then just get the 12GB model.
Still very high power consumtion, no aigger cope fake frames, and were I live at least they're still more expensive
>used
Rofl
>10gb, 400W and still sold for 500+ bucks
Why not just get the 4070 at that point.
>500+
used 3080s are like $400 and wipe the floor with the $400 4060Ti. Same for a $500> 3080Ti compared to a 4070
the chips on the 30 series are really really sensitive and once you mine on them they are toast. DO NOT BUY a used 30 series card
Nice try, Jensen
i wonder if people actually believe this shit. most serious miners heavily undervolted their cards for maximum $ / kilowatt and installed them in well ventilated racks to ensure they were working mining stable at all times. At worst the fans will give out sooner since they've been on for such a long time, but those are trivial to replace.
>300 bucks for a 3080
man we europoors are fricked
man, this makes me mad that I bought a 3060 Ti from best buy as soon as they were back on stock
>buying used graphic cards
Sorry I'm not a cuck
Because the 40XX line is busted.
NOOOOOOOOO DONT BUY IT
This. Got one with a bad fan (cost a whole $7 to replace) off ebay for $340.
Just make sure to undervolt, the stock curve is fricking moronic and you can easily improvement performance while cutting down on temps and power consumption pretty dramatically.
I'm gaming on a GTX1080
hey me too
R9 290 here
I didn't spend a single dollar on PC hardware since 5 years, but I still get to play all the games I want
think of all the slop you're missing out on, Anon
How's it holding up?
Not that anon, works decently for 1080p/60. RE4 was good enough for 144fps but my next game was supposed to be Aliens: Dark Descent but it's apparently gorgeous and I don't know how hard can I push it (I have a setup from 2017)
My 1060 is still good enough 1080p/60 fps for most modern games. Its only been this last year or so that its been struggling to meet 60 fps for super unoptimized games like Elden Ring.
well lah di dah mr fancy rich man
1080/Ti owners
>1080
Pfffff
1060 here and I'm still going stonk
proofs
>8GB of ram
Hope you don't upgrade to Windows 11
1060chads...
>Still chugging along even on the 3gb version
I have the 6GB version but it's a Zotac. Still runs everything fine and I don't feel the need to upgrade yet. Kind of pissed about my RAM getting lost to the zone in 10 though and might upgrade that soon.
Zotac have a history of making some truly absurd OC edition cards. Their old 970 amp extreme was as fast as a stock 980 because they clocked it so high. Galax is lesser known but do the same thing.
That's slightly below starfield minimum specs, good luck
starfield could run 3x-6x faster if the m$ devs had just clicked the "enable DLSS" button in Unreal Engine. But, no, it is AMD sponsored, so no, sweetie
Wouldn't help with a 1080 though
I'm still on my default 2060. I've thought about upgrading my graphics card but it feels wasteful to get rid of mine when I still pull 60 fps on most games at high/ultra.
Splendid little card the 1080/ti is. Massive leap over my old 980. Mine unfortunately died and I splurged on a 3080ti so I can continue emulating PSone and GBA games.
Still going strong with a gtx 1080. Have a backlog that it can handle no problem.
>still running an 8 year old R9 390X
>haven't come across a single game where it so much as chugs on higher graphics
The closest I ever got to having issues is out-of-the-box VR support and it still worked after a bit of futzing about with drivers. (not that it was worth it sold mine pretty quickly)
Unless you're running local AI models on your PC it doesn't matter.
The only hardware that does matter nowadays is high-end M.2 SSDs and mainly for unoptimized pieces of shit like Total War.
M.2 ssds cost almost the same as comparable capacity sata ssds these days.
You are coping on a GTX1080*
>i3 6100, 16GB of DDR3 RAM POWER and GTX 960 4GB
>that haven't felt the need to upgrade because 99% of games are fricking atrocious
4090 is the best GPU ever made, period. All of the other 40 series cards are bad. Also buying ayymd, rofl.
4090 or bust. Or just don't upgrade. Don't buy mid/low range stuff and don't fall for amd shills.
>4090 is the best GPU ever made, period
Yes, but it kills itself in the process.
Only if you're moronic and deserve it
>and deserve it
Ah yes, no blame can be put on the israelites designing these things to specifically frick the consumers in the ass.
>is too Black person brained to know how to claim a warranty
>Implying the nvidia israelites or any of the other third parties will honor a warranty
I've claimed a warranty on a 1070 I bought from a crypto miner
Clearly their policies won't be the same for the new ones
cope
>Yes Mr Shekelberg! It tastes so good!
They have no choice. It's what the warranty is for and about, also consumer protection laws. I use warranty on stuff that breaks very close to the end of warranty. Got a free upgrade from R9 390 that gave me heat strokes to an RX 580 of similar performance but reduced power consumption, because card died. Got a free upgrade from a G502 spectrum with a thick wire to a G502 HERO with a nicer thin wire, because mouse wheel tilt right didn't work. Got a free new M705 because my old one started double clicking or refused to work without a mousepad.
Just go to the store with the warranty and receipt and get the product replaced. Easy peasy.
>spend $1600 on a GPU that'll be obsolete in a year or don't play video games
okay thanks
>that'll be obsolete in a year
homies are still playing on 10 series cards just fine lol
>you can't claim warranties on your card because.... because i said so okay?!
cope lol
>No I'm afraid that is deliberate user damage, we cannot replace that, please purchase a New™ RTX™ 4000 Series™ Graphics Card!
>It was a pleasure attending you here at Nvidia™, please come again!
There hasn't been a single good game released that doesn't run on a 1080 Ti
Anything more demanding than that is AAA slop and not worth playing
The fact that graphics have more or less plateaued for good games means you might never actually need to upgrade ever again
I have been playing on 1060 6GB for years my friend.
If your card starts with 3, it ain't gonna be obsolete for a while
I'm on a 2080 and probably won't be able to run most games coming out next year, it's already struggling with some new titles now but I didn't want to play any of those anyway
im on an ancient 2019 2080ti itz gonna be good for a long time re4 and re8 ran brilliantly
There is a big difference between a 2080 and a 2080Ti friend
not really my 2060 laptop goes hard as frick even with nvidia gimping them with no rebar or dlss3
frick nvidia btw
When you stop obsessing over hardware you start to enjoy games much more. Knowing how to tweak settings for a balanced quality/performance goes a long way.
>terrible value
is often not always, but often poorgay cope.
i have never bought something and later regretted it, even when i spent slightly more than i should have
if i buy something it's because i WANT it, and the satisfaction of having it is much greater than any potential regret.
this mostly applies to coomlecting old consoles though, i don't know wether it's much relevant with graphics cards as well
Literal cumsoomer
i just bought an old pearl white psp go from ebay
i can't wait for it to arrive, bro
>DUDE ITS A TERRIBLE TIME TO BUY THE NEW CARDS ARE COMING
>DUDE ITS A TERRIBLE TIME TO BUY THE NEW CARDS JUST CAME OUT
>DUDE ITS A TERRIBLE TIME TO BUY THIS GENERATION SUCKS
All true
the last time it was good to buy you got a 1060 for a bit under 250 bucks
30 series would have been a good gen for prices if covid hadn't happened. Now 40 series prices are inflated in proportion to the scalper prices and there's no reason to think 50 seires won't also inflate in proportion to 40.
>he didnt buy the 30series price crash last year
Got rtx4060, I just prefer dlss antialiasing to taa and fsr. And it's not the most offensive frame/$ Nvidia card at the moment.
I got an RX6600 and an i5 12400f last year and I've had a lot of fun playing PC games. I wouldn't worry too much about specific hardware - just make sure that there's games you want to play, and that they run decently on the hardware you plan to get.
>AMD
It was within my budget and it works fine.
>reddit frog opinion
outside of poor performance with openGL drivers if you are on windows, I've never had any issues with AMD GPUs, I switched from a 5600XT to a 6700XT and none of them have given me issues.
I just use my laptop's integrated graphics and don't worry about it.
Wanted to hold out with my 1060 6GB/1080p setup until the 5000 series dropped before upgrading to 1440p, but my monitor's frickin dying. Should I get a new 1080p monitor or go for 1440p now?
seems simpler to get an OK 1080p monitor now and wait a bit longer
Either get a 1080p or 4k monitor
4K is a moronic meme unless you have a frickhuge TV (and then it’s a meme because console couch gaming might as well put on a movie). 2K is where the sweet spot is at if you go both for resolution and fps.
t. coping poorgay
>but my monitor's frickin dying
>Should I get a new 1080p monitor or go for 1440p now?
None of those, here's what you do
>Buy 1280x1024 monitor (a dime a dozen, plus 5:4 aspect ratio is super super comfy)
>HODL
>Spend the next 2 years saving as much money as you fricking can, frick food, frick gas, you SAVE
>In 2025 you buy a giant 4K 144hz monitor and a 5090
>???
>Profit
We don't truly appreciate modern technology until we go back to using 2000's devices for a few months.
>1080ti
>out preforms 3060ti
>200 bucks
explain why you need more
750ti bros, are u still alive?
Yikes, I was still on a 770 a few years ago and it was really showing its age
>720p
>30fps
let me guess, you need more?
Literally me
960m reporting in.
Played boltgun no problem gonna try re4 remake next
I upgraded to a 4080 from a 670 2GB last week.
we'll never die
>GTX 1650
Still comfy because I don't give a shit about graphics
If it runs the game is good enough for me.
My old PC which I was using until the start of this year had a 1050ti and 2500k, my biggest issue was ddr3 ram was really starting to show its age.
Rate this build:
Windows 10 or 11 Operating System
- Gaming PC Case with Three Cooling Fans
- MSI Triple Silent Liquid Cooler - designed for CPU
- Intel i-9-13900 - (13th Generation)
- ROG Gaming Motherboard
- Geforce RTX 4090 24GB with dedicated Liquid Cooling Unit
- 64 GB RAM with RGB effect
- Samsung 980 2TB SSD - Primary Storage
- Crucial 1TB SSD - Secondary Storage
- Thermaltake 600W Powersupply
- Mini LCD Controller for Front Case LCD Graphics (Cool Mod)
it's shit and the powersupply is too weak
What else is wrong with it b***h boy?
Ok what about this one?
AMD RYZEN 9 7950x 16cores 32 threads
Gskill 64gigs DDR5 RAM 6000mhz/mts
ASUS PRIME X670 Motherboard (wifi6)
MSI X TRIO RTX 4090 Graphics Card
MSI MPG 1000watt Power Supply (12pin)
LianLi Galahad 360mm AIO Liquid Cooler
LianLi Dynamic EVO Case
Samsung EVO 2TB M.2 SSD Gen4
INLAND 2TB M.2 SSD NVME Gen3
6 fan (plus 3 on the cpu cooler) total 9
Windows 11 Professional
AI overclocking and optimization
>LianLi
lol, rumao even
>AI overclocking and optimization
explain pls
https://www.gadgetvoize.com/2020/07/21/asus-makes-gaming-pc-optimization-beginner-friendly-with-ai-overclocking-ai-cooling-and-ai-networking/#:~:text=ASUS%20Makes%20Gaming%20PC%20Optimization%20Beginner-Friendly%20With%20AI,for%20overclocking.%20...%203%203%3A%20Apply%20AI%20OC
>AI Overclocking, AI Cooling and AI Networking
>3 year old article by Pajeet
I'm fricking... I'm gonna really hurt you if you do not stop posting...
What else is wrong with this
build?
>AI overclocking and optimization
What is this Black person fricking talking about...
>Windows 11
That's fricked up. Game?
Massively overpriced AIO but no m2 nvme? I rate you moronic.
>i9
>4090
>600w PSU
???????
brilliant build
buy it immediately
>Windows 10 or 11
>Included case fans
>Meme ass 360mm cooler
>13th generation (because the model number doesn't specifically say it already)
>No mobo model just "gaming"
>Liquid cooled GPU meme
>Ram with lgbt lights
>SSDs for long term storage
>SIX HUNDRED Watt PSU for all that
Good lord I know it's b8 but I'm still biting it so hard.
>Meme ass 360mm cooler
There is literally nothing wrong with an arctic liquid freezer II 360
>4090
>i9
>600W PSU
north korea blackout/10
>bought new computer at the start of the year
>immediately after requirements start shooting through the roof and it becomes shit
>can't get 60 fps in some of these games without dropping to 1080p
i'm going to go back to consoles i think
>can't get 60 fps in some of these games without dropping to 1080p
What sorts of garbage goyslop are you playing?
Why did you build a shit PC then?
meanwhile my 2080ti is actually a titan rtx with half the ram
im fine with this
2060 mobile also underated same with 1050ti notebook i have
I game at 1440p and it feels amazing.
I hear its best to wait until the new 50 series if you are now on 30. Is this true?
40 series is a shitshow so pretty much you need to wait and see if they get their shit together for 50 series (unlikely) and just buy the next generation of intel gpu
>Intel doesn't support CUDA drivers yet in any of its GPUs.
I need CUDA for simulations
They probably never will, just use 3rd party if you really need it otherwise enjoy getting buttfricked so Chingchong can buy another leather jacket.
no 4090Ti is coming, so yes
the 4000 gen is also shit
Just avoid the 40XX series if you don't want to get israeliteed by nvidia.
Get a used 3090 or a 6900XT.
>Just avoid the 40XX series if you don't want to get israeliteed by nvidia.
They said exactly the same thing about 30XX.
>They said exactly the same thing about 30XX
When it was new and there was a GPU shortage.
Used priced are not moronic now.
>pic
game for this feel?
For me? it's rx6600. 1080p 60fps max settings, why would i need more when I sit less than a metre from my screen?
Cool. You spent 400 bucks in 2022 or 200 in 2023 to play at 1080p.....some more. It's fine to not progress since 2013, I guess.
Even worse, even at 1080p actual next gen games are too much for 8giglets if they don't pick low settings lol. Based moron.
4k only makes sense if you have a 40+ inch display which looks ridiculous on the desk and hurts your neck
>Even worse, even at 1080p actual next gen games are too much for 8giglets if they don't pick low settings lol.
This is just simply wrong
Then you'd be as mentally ill as he is.
Yeah sure, shut the frick up. The only thing you were correct about was the price.
Every game produced in the next two years will work fine with 8gb. You can thank the xbox series S for this. You won't see this phased out til maybe 2026.
>Every game produced in the next two years will work fine with 8gb
Yeah, at low settings.
Why are you trying to justify your purchase so hard? a 1070 is fine and can max just about anything, so can an rx66600. Say hello to a screenshot from an rx580 8gb.
>actual next gen games
Such as?
Silly boy
>still rocking my 1050ti
it just works
>1070 is running baldur's gate 3 at 30+ fps
Frick, I still need to wait for 1.5 years for NVidia to announce their fricking 50xx series
>bought a 3070 because it was available at MSRP at the height of the price spike
>have NEVER used it for anything other than about 15 minutes of Quake 2 RTX, because modern games are utter dogshit and everything i play is from like 2003
feels fricking good
Works fine for me at 1440p.
Just wait for the 5000 series
Friendly reminder: If you play on one of these you will NEVER need a new GPU.
Based square monitor enjoyer.
I have one of those keyboards, it sucks ass.
if you're buying a new gpu there are only two cards to consider: 6700 XT for price/performance and RTX 4090 for pure performance.
Nothing else is worth considering.
What about this build:
Windows 11 Home
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
CPU Cooler: Deepcool LS720 SE
MOBO: ASRock B650E
RAM: 2x16GB DDR5
SSD: 2TB NVME 4.0
GPU: RTX 4090
Case: Corsair 5000D
PSU: Corsair 1000W
You are a stupid fricking Black person. Stop posting.
>4090
Pretty good if you want 4k and have very high budget
>4080
Overpriced pos
>4070ti
Also overpriced pos
>4070
Ok 2k card
>4060ti 16gb
The worst 4000 series so far
>4060ti
Can't even beat 3060ti @2k
>4060
4050 in disguise, ok if you are using sub 550w PSU
Wanna play games in a financially responsible way? But a console
>paying a yearly ransom to use the internet your ISP already bills you for
Falling for a scam is not financially responsible.
I have an 8 year old pc build I just can't justify upgrading. An equivalent mobo went from 250-300 to 500 fricking dollars for no reason. Gpu prices doubled. Everything with building a pc is insanely expensive now. Frick off. I could buy a ps5, a controller, several games, and a year of the internet service and still come out cheaper than a 4070ti and decent mobo.
Whats your point? A modern cpu with a 4070ti runs laps around a ps5. If you want a ps5 equivalent build you can do one for 700 bux. Consoles are good for two things: You have kids and just want to give them something easy to use rather than messing up a PC, ornyou like collecting physical games. Calue is a complete non argument, you do not save any money by getting a console. Anyone who thinks they do is just a moron without a capability for long term thinking, made to get nickel and dimed.
You get nickel and dimed with a console. You get dollar and dimed with buying PC parts. I don't buy that many games to begin with. Im going to give up pc gayming over the insane prices of building. Muh 700 buck console killers are bullshit. The GPU alone is that much numb nuts.
A ps5 would be a downgrade from an 8 year old PC though.
A 970 is better than a ps5 LMAO that's 3.5gb vram. And it's slow vram. A ps5 has 8+ gb vram
Let me guess, you need more?
Buy an Intel A750 it's the comfiest for Linux and it's dirt cheap, plus it has AV1 which you want
>Intel
>Loonix
>which you want
Give me one video game which is worth to play past 2007 and requires one of these.
unteralterbach
I played Hogwarts Legacy at High settings 1080p and almost locked to 60fps most of the time on my RX 590 8GB.
I don't know or understand how.
The game downgrades textures in real timewhen it runs out of memory. You'll be seeing ps2 tier mud despite having every setting on "high".
>You'll be seeing ps2 tier mud
I didn't notice any of that and I 100%'d the game
You must not pay attention a lot then. Honestly I guess its easy to miss when you just concentrate on the action, but its a well reported issue.
Why so defensive? 8GB vram forces you to downgrade textures in a oot of modern releases, that's simply a fact. If it doesn't bother you that's fine but you dont have to deny reality. And I have a 3060ti with 8gb vram myself. I don't personally mind it because i dont play new games much.
>8GB vram forces you to downgrade textures in a oot of modern releases
you're just making shit up at this point.
speaking to you really is a strange experience anon. i could tell you water is wet and you would accuse me of making things up.
Name a single game that uses more than 8gb vram.
At ultra settings? Callisto Protocol, Last of Us, Hogwarts, Forspoken. All pretty large profile games and their vram usage has been discussed on Ganker (and every other gaming forum, tech site, youtube etc.) so much that its mind boggling you're accusing me of making shit up.
Literally maxed all of them besides the last of us because I hate Sony movie trash.
Good for you.
those games lower your settings automatically if it detects your vram/memory bus is not suitable yet you actually think you're running shit at ultra LMAO
Novideo cheaping out on memory again? Say it ain't so!
Nah
Frick yeah stfu moron you actually thought you were gaming at ultra when the devs were fricking you from the start fricking stupid jit
You're weird. point out the compressed textures.
graffiti on the booths on the right
vending machine on the left
simple as
you lost.
you are wrong, good sir
why are you posting a game from 2020? we were specifically speaking about modern releases.
because that game from 2020 looks better than everything else.
good for you. the original post in this reply chain was howerever "Name a single game that uses more than 8gb vram" and then i named Callisto Protocol, Last of Us, Hogwarts, Forspoken". See, i very clearly did not name Cyberpunk, a game from 2020. Is this your way of admitting that 8gb is not enough for games in 2023 anymore?
based moron
There is no need to be upset. I sincerely wish you enjoy your 8gb card, its still perfectly fine for older games and even newer titles if you're willing to lower the settings, I just hope I was able to clarify some misconceptions.
I don't need to turn settings down, paypig.
Denying reality is probably not a healthy thing to do, anon, but if that's what makes you happy then I suppose its not my place to tell you to snap out of it.
>paypig
Wow, rude.
>Last of Us
ah yes, the ps3 remaster. Definitely needs more vram than the ps3 has actual ram
>all of them horrible ports
Big think. Almost like companies make ports worse to sell better cards.
What's your point? Thats modern PC gaming for you.
My point is that one of the main reasons for getting new graphics cards is ports getting worse and worse and I hate it.
well, yeah. although playing devils advocate, modern console have a shared memory pool of 16gb. since thats where the majority of the sales will be, its not unreasonable for devs to target those specs first and optimize for PC as a distant second.
8GB of ram was the standard for a $379 1070 SEVEN YEARS AGO moron.
Imagine people in 2004 complaining Doom 3 didnt run on their 4Mb voodoo 1
Imagine in 2007 people complaining that Crysis wasn't supported on a 64mb Geforce 2(oh wait crysis didnt even run in 4 year old cards lmao)
I get your point, but the problem is the new games with new requirements dont look any better to justify themselves. RDR2 for example looks a ton better than hogwarts or forspoken and it runs fine on 4gb vram.
>2080 super
>runs every game I want to
I'm so glad I don't get into all this part homosexualry
I got a 4080 and despite my first one needing to be replaced, I can't say I'm unhappy. I'm blowing away anything at 14400p and don't need DLSS half the time, even with RT enabled. Feels good.
homosexual, just buy a card that meets your needs for a price that you consider reasonable (can include older cards). Why does it matter what Stanley the neet says?
>tfw i have a 2070 and haven't felt the need to upgrade in years because i still have a 1080p monitor.
can one of you guys help me out, I'm very confused.
Both CPUID and MSI Afterburner show my GPU Memory Clock jump from idle 400-500MHz to exactly 7,5k as soon as I open a videogame. Doesn't matter if its terraria or something else.
Is that just allocated ressources, or actual usage, because the second would be worrying.
Pic realted was taken on the title screen of vermintide 2.
your gpu is not idle playing a game so your memory is not idle either.
only have 1 sensor program up you fricking moron you create race conditions and false reading
don't buy nvidia moron
the 6800 or 6800xt is all you need for years
>What is AI
Yeah, keep buying AyyMd moron.
this goof is seething, what's the matter chief? did your 1060 burn your house down?
>AI
Poojeet cope that doesn't do much. At best it's a pet project for most people, at worst just marketing for morons. Even if AI develops, you aren't gonna be doing shit with 1st gen cards just like the pascal gpus are fricking horrible at ray tracing.
Stop being a Black person and start using AMD on Linux
>AMD
>Linux
Kill yourslf.
I have a 3050 laptop and play games in mid-high settings and happy. It looks pretty much the same as ultra high graphics in motion anyways.
>I just want to play fricking video games.
NOOO DON'T PLAY IT IT'S A WASTE OF TIME
I'm waiting until 2025 to upgrade for 3nm cards and for RT and A.I upscaling to be less of a meme.
ironically games will look the same as graphics have plateaued. You're just wasting your money, anon
Just buy it, play what you want and sell it when you need to buy a new one.
What GPU brand do I buy now since EVGA stopped.
Who has comparable customer service
Sapphire and power color
Wait....you mean nvidia? Msi
I guess.
FRICK
>Zotac & PNY
Shit quality
>MSI
Compromised source code and furry company
>Asus
Doesn't honor warranties
>Gigabyte
Brittle PCB that cracks itself
You're completely shit out of luck. Sapphire is the only good manufacturer and they only make AMD trash.
Just buy from a store that has a good warranty policy, I've never had to deal with GPU retailers directly.
>still not a single game worth upgrading for
maybe in 5 years or so
if a game is hyper focused on graphics it's not that good of a game, tbh.
Honestly AA games with poor graphics tend to be the one that runs the least smoothly, that's the issue. Games that focus real hard on graphics also tends to be very scalable.
I'm afraid to upgrade bro's. Don't know what to get. Been using the same lappy for years.
>got a 7900xtx for 1200cad
>sub 900usd
>24gb VRAM
>plays whatever I want pretty much maxed out
>will age like Fine Wine™
Enjoy never doing AI moron.
Can you STILL not cloud that shit?
>Oh, you used more than 4.7 seconds of our GPUs? Your usage of Colab has been locked
>Also please phone verify your Google Account 🙂
>m-muh AI
I can just rent server space, moron. Nobody who's actually doing this stuff seriously is doing it on a gayman peesee at home
https://rocm.docs.amd.com/en/latest/release/windows_support.html
You have to use Linux to use AMD on SD and I'm never fricking touching Linux have a nice day.
You literally cannot read the URL ESL-Kun.
>No 580 support
I sleep.
Frick you and frick AMD
Why would they support a discontinued GPU driver
Stop shilling your AMD fricking trash, 580 not supported but a 1050 can run SD fine. Frick off. Now I have to give money to the nvidia israelites.
1050 has no vram for SD. you need at minimum 12gb or the app stack won't launch on cuda or rocm.
You are fricking moronic can you stop being fricking moronic
https://github.com/CompVis/stable-diffusion/issues/148
Frick you there's people in /sdg/ generating with 3GB 1060's.
takes them minutes to generate one decent sample while 6900xt/3090 takes seconds for a batch of samples.
>6900xt
>implying
Frick off linux moron
wtf are you talking about. i ran SD just fine on my 3060 ti which has 8gb. IIRC by default it needs at least 6gb, but if you fiddle around a bit you can make do with less. Plenty guides on that available online.
"just fine" you mean slow as shit. rx 6900xt/3090 does it in seconds on cuda/rocm, 1050/3060ti takes minutes.
yeah no, it didnt take minutes, it took like 7-8 seconds for one 512x512 image at 40 steps. not exactly blazing fast but perfectly fine for some fun. i dont know where you come up with this stuff.
512x512 is small as shit and exactly what I mean. you have no vram so you have to cope with extremely small images or extremely long compute times.
whats your nvidia effective bandwidth again without l3 cache
512x512 is the default size for SD, anon. larger images are composed of 512x512 cells. have you ever even used SD or are you just making up stuff as you go?
have a nice day you subhuman pajeet, ywnbaa
>>will age like Fine Wine™
yeah, just like the crossfired 5770s. You've got more money than sense.
>7970GE
>RX580
>Vega56 with Samsung memory
All quality cards that lasted me years, the later 2 still getting regular updates while support for contemporary Novideo cards was dropped
>hurr durr crossfire fog u no gud with money!
Funny you say that because the most I ever spent on graphics cards were a pair of GTX Titans, but at least I had a use for all those CUDA cores back then. Still cheaper than a 4090 when adjusted for inflation
Seething poorgays like you provide me sustenance.
>if you don't spend cash on the latest shit you're poor
kek, okay you filthy israelite.
Coping poorgays too
3080 or 6800xt
12600K or 5800x3d
1440p monitor or 4K w/ upscaling. Any other take is contrarian bullshit.
/thread
As always you just buy whatever you get the best price on in your region
I have an RTX 3070
Works fine
>People are only just discovering Nvidias VRAM israelite
>They still defend Nvidia
Lol
Lmao
Especially when the VRAM Nvidia uses is like $25 per 8GB.
Can you solder your own ram chips if you have enough autism like the guy that made a 1TB iPhone?
Some guy in brazil did it apparently.
https://www.custompc.com/nvidia-rtx-3070-mod-more-vram-does-matter-8gb-to-16gb-mod
Even if you could the firmware is likely locked to the exact specific vram modules.
>firmware is likely locked to the exact specific vram modules
What if you buy the same ones but with bigger capacity?
If you buy a 40 series card you are the absolute definition of a cuck. You're unironically buying a card that nVidia made deliberately unappealing so that they could focus all their resources on manufacturing H100s for misguided AI startups (90% of which are no doubt doomed to failure but that's not their problem).
4060TI - 22.9 billion transistors
MRSP: 400 USD
H100 - 80 billion transistors.
MRSP - 40,000 USD.
Who do you think they'd rather be doing business with? Not poorgay gamers.
If you support them right now you are a shitty human being.
RTX is a fricking meme and even if you're such a consumer zombie moron that you need to have it then just buy a fricking used 30 series card.
This, gaming cards are just a side business for the trillion dollar company now
>another 10 years before 4k is viable because israeli manufacturers skimp on the cheapest part of a gpu that is vram
its all so tiresome
>saw the newest leak prices for 5xxx series
>bought the best thermal paste i can and repasted my 2070s
looks like its just me and you little guy for awhile longer
>saw the newest leak prices for 5xxx series
...Do I really want to know
lets just say if your a normal person you might have to change your upgrade lengths to 3 generations maybe even 4 at this rate
Just tell me the prices...
they wouldn't set the prices in 2023 for a 2025, don't listen to these people
>price leaks
Don't exist. Just look at the 7600, AMD changed the price of that card overnight, manufacturers can always do that. The "leaked" price of a card that is 18 months from releasing is about as real as your mom's flat belly
why is the 1080 just so fricking based man, i can even play games at 1440p 60fps no problem.
You are lucky you got on the longest lifespan gen in history
Anyone unironically defending nVidia at this point is not a free-thinking human being and should not be addressed as one.
Do not treat it like a human.
You are not arguing with a human.
It might have flesh but it is not a human.
It might make human-like noises but it is not a human.
Yep.
*spits*
The 40 series aren't bad cards just horrible value for what they offer, you're better off getting a 30 series or waiting for the 50 series
I will continue to play SimCity 4 on my 750 Ti and nothing else, there is nothing past 2010 worth playing
>there is nothing past 2010 worth playing
Dark Ouls 1 and 3, Dragon's Dogma, Witcher 2, Cyberpunk, Human Revolution, the list goes on.
The reality is right infront of your face. not my problem, israelite.
Bloodborne, Elden Ring, Witcher 3, Hi-fi Rush, Rabi-ribi, the Ascent, Hotline Miami 1 and 2. Somebody stop me.
>1080 Ti Aorus
It's as good as a 4060 Ti. Next gpu will be a 3090 Ti with a huge undervolt. That will last me until the heat death of universe.
93 posters. Frick every single one of you.
Shut the frick up 94.
Frick you. What's a good card for playing videogames gayshit.
Secondhand 3060ti/6600xt. Current gen is just shit.
WRONG my 3060 can't run modded witcher 3 with ultrahomie hidden graphics options at 60fps i need something more!
Then stop being moronic and buy AMD like an adult.
Enjoy never doing AI work Black person
I took that into consideration when changing to AMD but decided it was a cost worth paying
My motherboard can actually hold 2 GPUs so if NVIDIA weren't such israelites about having both sort of drivers installed I might have been able to keep the old card in just for AI, although I would have had to find a setup to only run 1 card at boot to have enough power
why are you listening to people who know nothing about technology? You know your setup, you know the games you want to play and the resolution/quality you want to play at. Buy something that matches what you need, unless you also know jack shit about technology.
>3080ti still over $1000
lmao, no thanks.
You can find second hand ones for $700.
Are they reliable? I assume all the used ones are burnt out from mining
At this point, most likely. The burnt ones were probably the first to be resold while the ones that only saw little use from idiots jumping late on the bandwagon are the ones being sold currently. I'd still pick a reseller that has mostly positive reviews, at least genuine reviews, unless you want to do the legwork about making sure that what you're buying works before at money is exchanged.
Miners all under-drive their cards for power efficiency (and thus more money) and run them in open air which keeps them way cooler than they could ever be inside some claustrophobic gaming PC. They also generally upgrade every generation because better hashes per watt and not because the card is actually worn out.
Miners depended on their cards for money and they treated them that way.
Whereas cards coming out of gaming PCs are just toys that someone either broke or got bored of.
$700 is way too much for a used one, $600 is meh, $500-550 is decent
Cards dont burn out from mining lol that's Nvidia FUD
Anyways 3080Tis were released later down the line with LHR locks and when crypto profitability was going down, so it's less "risky" than most other cards.
i have a 4080 i bought at launch, i'm happy with it
>Buy AMD
>It just works
>Buy Nvidia
>Stutters and driver crashes
today in opposite land
>Windows
There are 3 GPUs worth buying at the moment
>any 250-300 dollar GPU for 1080p
>4070Ti for 144hz 1080p or 1440p
>4090 undervolted for 144hz 1440p or 4k
That's it.
moron
homosexual
>i3 7100
>16gb
>RX 570 8gb
>1366x768
we eating good
>i5 8500
>32gb ram
>rx6600
1080p boys
why does Ganker - Video Games care só much about AI
DLSS is AI
I thought the AI people are talking about in this context is shit like image generation and the like.
DLSS is image generation, idiot
I meant outside DLSS moron stop being pedantic
DLSS uses AI cores on the die to generate images
Now you know why we have so many Loomis threads
New games are shit, no hyperbole, so only complete idiots care about them. Idiots are too smooth brained to notice obvious upscaling or care about bad value hardware. This is how we got here.
because generating coom toons is a game unto itself and if you only cared about gaming all the time you wouldnt be on Ganker right now.
Ai slop is for the lowest tier of coomer & pajeets who pretend they're artists.
>6650xt
>cheap
>plays latest games
>runs cool and low power
1080p wins again
Why do people still pretend AMD is a garbage choice?
>m-muh drivers!
Buddy, right now Nvidia drivers are not any better. In fact some features are objectively worse than AMD's.
>m-muh raytracing!
Lol. Lmao, even.
>m-muh DLSS!
See above
Stop spending the israelite premium and save a few hundred with AMD you moronic frickers
Amd GPUs get a worse rap than they deserve for sure, but when you pick one you need to make sure you:
>don't care about raytracing
>don't care about DLSS/framegen
>don't care about AI
>don't care about productivity (CUDA)
>don't mind driver crashes and instability or weird compatibility from time to time (fricking runescape 3 doesnt run on radeon)
>don't care about higher power usage (rdna3 vs rtx 4000)
>can find them for significantly cheaper than their NVidia equivalent (often not the case outside US)
0.5 AI generated frames have been deposited to your account.
>m-muh DLSS
That's the funny part, DLSS in motion is fine. Looks just like normal but the performance is so much better but in still images it looks like absolute shit and i have no idea why that's the case.
Rtx 3080 MSRP $700
Rtx 4080 MSRP $1200
you forgot
3080 90% ±3 of the performance of the 3090
4080 75% ±3 of the performance of the 4090
Just fricking buy one. Waitgays are pathetic
>buy that overpriced shit that's gonna be shit in 2 years goy
Shut up njewdia.
something better is always on the horizon. might as well never buy anything.
No, I just buy something that makes sense. The 4060s are absolute dogshit, and the 4070s are just overpriced as shit for performance that's barely better than a 3000 series outside of dlss. So I just buy a 3060 ti for 300 bucks. That's half the price for 90% of the performance. Just like the 3000 series were moronic as msrp from cryptardation, it's moronic to buy a 4000 series at inflated msrp from aitardation.
could have gone with a 6700xt or if you must have nvidia you could have looked for second hand offers on ebay. buying a new card for 300 bux with 8gb vram is just gay.
>>4090
>"NOOO DON'T BUY IT IT MELTS"
Literally nobody said this. It has a massive overkill cooler because the power limit was droppee before release
>meltgate didn't happen
>no it's not the reason they've been scrambling to change the plugs, stop asking question
The only current GPUs worth buying are the RTX 4090 (unlimited budget), the RTX 4070 ($550 or less), the RX 7900 XTX ($950 or less), the RX 6950 XT ($630 or less), the RX 6700 XT ($330 or less), and the Arc A770 ($350 or less).
Is a new 3080ti for $1000 worth it, my bros? Dont have a new PSU, dont want to deal with cable melt on 40 series. Currently on 3060
>Is a new 3080ti for $1000 worth it, my bros?
No.
You'd have to be genuinely moronic to pay that much for a 3080 Ti.
And the 4000 series generally uses less power than the 3000 series.
like I said, I cannot deal with the new cable melt on the 40 series. My case is also ill suited for 40 series cards as it is reversed - a fractal torrent
If you're already playing with the idea of spending 1k+ on a GPU you might as well drop 1500 on a 4090. Models that were produced since december include the new connector and if you buy that doesn't you can request one from the manufacturer. Then undervolt it and you have a certified beast of a card for the next 4 years, 5 with DLSS.
>Models that were produced since december include the new connector and if you buy that doesn't you can request one from the manufacturer.
and how do I guarantee a new model when I buy from amazon and some frick just throws whatever into the cardboard box
>hey -manufacturer-, yesterday i bought one of your 4090s off amazon and it doesn't include the new 12vhpwr connector, can you send me one?
how will I be able to tell when it arrives that it does or does not have the connector with out opening the box
>with out opening the box
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/16-pin-power-connector-gets-a-much-needed-revision-meet-the-new-12v-2x6-connector
what is GamersNexus and Jayz2Cents saying about this then anon? What is their stance?
even on MSI website they are only advertising 16 pin connector. Why are you lying?
I've ejected from the nvidia hustle. I got a 6700xt and never looked back.
Is this worth New for $500?, Or should I buy a 3090?
My 1060 died so I'm thinking on building a new PC
If you can get that new for $500 it's a steal (assuming you've got the PSU to run it).
Yes, don't forget to undervolt. Unless you can somehow get the 3090 for around the same price..?
>don't forget to undervolt
Did I miss something?
>3090 for around the same price
I think that would be impossible
>Did I miss something?
No it's just that the 6900 use even more power than you'd think, so I really think it's better to just cut 6% of the performance for 30% less powerdraw if you do it right.
>who the frick plays at 1080p in 2023
Me on my 4K tv
just get a 20X0 or 30X0 series. none of these issues and no issues on recent games.
>1060 6gb
>xeon e3 1270
>runs a 2023 baldurs gate 3 on ultra in comfy 30 fps
there is literally no games, what the frick would you want to play that would require you a 4060
cyberpunk? are you moronic, anon?
>30 fps
>moronic zoomer unironically wants to play a turn based game in 100fps
Yes.
Because I have a GPU capable of doing so.
4070ti owner here. All that matters is VRAM. The safety net is 16gb currently. Not due to new cards being shit but just due to dev costs not prioritizing PC optimization esp for multiplat titles.
you guys are absolutely moronic if you're still buying Nvidia
they haven't had reasonably priced cards since the 10XX series
The only excuse I will except is if you are professionally into /3/ or AI and I find it hard to belive people on Ganker are productive in any capacity
even then there are plenty of guides on Ganker to do AI shit with an AMD card
>inb4 poorgay cope
if not wanted to get blatantly israeliteed out of my money makes me a poorgay fricking shoot me
posted from my 6800XT machine
Even if you're doing AI at home you'd be moronic to buy new Nvidia stuff when used nvidia stuff gives you more VRAM for your dollar.
>The only excuse I will except is if you are professionally into /3/ or AI and I find it hard to belive people on Ganker are productive in any capacity
if you browse GPU threads you might get the impression that everyone on Ganker is fricking around with AI and 3D rendering.
i always figured it's just paid shills and shills who do it for free to justify their purchase
I upgraded from a 650 to 1050 last year.
OP what do you want from a gaming rig? Do you want to play 60fps in 1080p, 1440p or 4k? Also what's your budget? Depending on your answers I can tell you what you should get.
Is 530 eurobucks a good price for a 4060ti 16gb version?
captcha:RTX2T
No.
https://www.gputracker.eu/en/category/1/graphics-cards
seems to be the cheapest price in the EU, but it's not exactly good value either way unless you really want frame generation for some reason. around that price you can get an rx 6800 xt or a 3070 ti instead.
Current build looking for upgrade path
>CPU Ryzen 5 5600
>GPU RX570
>16GB RAM
>450W PSU
>SSD 512G HDD 2TB
>Build a computer
>Use it until something slows down too much or outright stops working
>Replace it with whatever is in an acceptable price range and manages to handle whatever Im doing currently
Simple as pie.
>buy amd
>doesn't even compete at the high end
I'm going to get a pc soon, I have my eyes on getting a 3060ti because I'm happy with max settings 60fps 1080p, will that be enough?
get a 2080 ti
does the 2000 series get the fancy ai shit? I've seen some tests of ddls and honestly it looks decent enough and will only get better with time, I don't want to depend on it but having it as an option is a plus
>gay tracing
lmao
why are you greentexting
if you think you need a 3060Ti for 1080p it means you want to play those garbage games with raytracing. otherwise you'd be looking a 6600 tops
I'm posting this from a 12 year old government laptop that barely runs minecraft at 720p with optimization mods and this is the first time I'm upgrading in my life, I have no clue of what to get. that's why I'm asking
Nothing wrong with 3060ti particularly but if you don't care about RT maybe RX7600 or 6650xt is good enough for you @1080p
You unironically need a 4090 to run Cyberpunk RT Overdrive at 1080p60. So it's over bro I'm sorry.
get a 6700xt instead. 8gb vram isnt enough for max settings in modern games.
yeah I've heard that 12vram is now the minimum because game devs are moronic, I'll think about it
I've heard AMD has worse drivers and it's ai stuff is worse than Nvidia's, with my budget I think that if I hold for a few weeks more I might be able to get a 4070 for 2k stuff but I have to see some prices because I live in a third world shithole and everything is way more expensive here
Yes, the 4000 series is a scam, as will be all future Nvidia cards.
yeah so what's a good upgrade to a 1660ti if I just want high fps with non-shit graphics at 1080p and no gimmicky shit
>at 1080p
First buy a 4k TV, who the frick plays at 1080p in 2023?
me, b***h
Oh, honey. Reporting in from the days of leaving messages on college dorm room door made with Hollerith cards. Jonesing over the advertising for why you should spend extra to get a 9x14 dot matrix printer. Paying over a grand for a modem and B&W CRT to dial in to a supercomputer. And later amazed at what Sierra could do with CGA (not lazy devs).
We wouldn't be in this situation if AMD wasn't fricking useless garbage. They haven't done anything good since the 9700/9800 All in Wonder
Get a 7900 XT (but only if decently cheap) or XTX and do a non-full driver install then anon.
None of the driver frickery that way, handles all the RT reflection memery because NOBODY will ever implement real RT lighting, and because it focused on real shit it basically has 4090 performance in a large chunk of games for 800 bigbois cheaper. Unless you're making tons of AI generated porn there's no reason to choose nvidia this time.
homosexuals shill for DLSS but it looks like tripe in motion, it needs a few more generations in the pipe before it becomes indistinguishable from the normal rendering methods. Then we might actually be able to turn on RT lighting if there isn't a superior new version of lighting available by then that replaced RT altogether. Nvidia are trash right now, save for morons who want to enable full ray tracing in the 2 games it exists in there's no real reason to choose them.
Think about it, what RT are you going to get real access too? Because it's practically just Cyberpunk and that game is shite and nothing is coming in the future.
If you want low wattage and decent power that will very likely last through most of this gen, 4070 non ti is the way to go. It's still far too expensive for what it is, but if you NEED a gpu, that's the one I'd go for. consoles have 16gb unified ram, meaning when accounting for forced overhead like OS functionality in recording and parties and other shit like that, they'll probably only have 10-12gb available for usage. Of course that's just on paper so it means nothing in actuality.
4090 is fine, it doesn't melt. It's people using stupid Black person third party power cables that are melting.
>HMMM I WANNA USE A THIRD PARTY ADAPTER ON THIS VERY HIGH POWER DRAWING DEVICE
>SURELY THIS RANDOM CHINK COMPANY HAS TESTED THEIR PRODUCT
luh
fricking
mao
>"only" 8gb
>tfw gtx980
just get a prebuilt and call it a day, only autists with money and a looooooot of free time care that much about graphic cards only to be able to see dicks on 8K HD 3000 FPS with RTX on and Realistic pubes phisics.
>7900 XTX
Take the AMD pill.
maybe if it was another 100 dollars cheaper. as it stands its within 130 dollars of a rtx 4080 and thats not enough of a price difference to go with AMD over NVidia for me.
Enjoy never doing AI cooms ever
I couldn't imagine having standards so low that I actually jerk off to AI shit.
There's money to be made from losers with standards that low, so yeah, give me Nvidia trash instead of AMD garbage.
t. never wielded the power to ask an ai to draw whatever he wants
ai pictures are trash but making any rp scenario you want is so fun, not even for porn just dropping any random character in a chatroom with joe rogan is fun on it's own
which llm do you use and whats your card?
I've only done stuff with scrapped gpt keys, but local models keep improving and I'm sure than in the mid term we will get stuff running on our pcs that rivals what gpt4 can do today
AI pictures make the big pp become the small pp without making gf's snack.
I did.
>Radeon VII
Those are not a myth? There's actual people who bought them...?
What's the Nvidia equivalent?
>What's the Nvidia equivalent?
Give or take a 2070 super or 2080. I actually bought the card on release and only recently sold it on after getting the xtx.
7700x + 7900 xt master race
It's true though moron. VRAM is cheap as frick yet these GPU making fricks give you crumbs, and companies like nvidia cut corners like having no displayport 2 on their """""top of the line""""" shit, even the 4090, and still charge you $1,600+.
Shit's AIDS.
If you want to charge that much for your hardware actually make it reflect that MSRP in value, most modern GPUs barely deserve being even half the cost they currently are.
This is the primary reason why I still haven't upgraded. I'm not poor, but out of principle I refuse to fricking pay such horse-shit amounts of money for a fricking GPU because the israelites have had a taste of "muh covid (" and will never let it recover.
AMD doesn't offer full fat DP2 on their gpus either - the ports are only 54gbps connections rather than the full 80gbps DP2 goes to which annoys me greatly for an absurd niche use case I want.
>can buy a high end PC right now
>don’t have a good desk to sit it on or a good table to just sit a M+KB on
Literally the only thing holding me back. I don’t want to spend a hundred bucks for some tiny table I have to assemble for this. I’m debating just going pure controller big picture 24/7 mode
>I’m debating just going pure controller big picture 24/7 mode
I did that for a while. It worked just fine but since I prefer playing with a mouse I just got a nice desk eventually. It was definitely a "console-like" experience and pretty smooth one at that.
How about you stop being a dipshit who needs 60 frames per second at 1920x1080 resolution with all graphics options to the max and just get a decent video card. Go check out a $500 gaming PC video on Youtube and get one of those video cards.
Which monitor would you homosexuals recommend at the $300 price range?
Since I doubt any of those have HDR worth a damn the one that has the best srgb mode.