>one of said world designers bounced out after the frickup that was Fallout 76 >dropped a few hints about how the company is going through a corporate restructure ever since M$ bought them out causing a small exodus to happen in response >now hes working on his own game about hunting cryptids with a bow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXu7b9l-LWg
The writing has been on the wall for a while but it was clear that a lot was riding on this game to be a runaway success that would mog Skyrim in its heyday. Maybe the mods will fix it if they ever come out in the next decade or so.
For once I dont think Microsoft was to blame for Starfield
Zenimax would had forced Bethesda to release a year earlier and the game would had been equally soulless and with extra bugs
Seriously. Game Pass absolutely RAPED the games sales. Both Microsoft and Bethesda refuse to state sales numbers and tout meaningless number of "players" instead because the sales are so bad.
Skyrim >Has creation kit out >has 13 years worth of mods that let you turn it into anything you want >Long established IP
Starfield >New IP >No Creation Kit >Limited mods due to no Creation Kit
>WHY ARE THEY DIFFERENT!
Besides all of the game breaking bugs and shitposting Skyrim is actually a fun game. Starfield is the worst thing a game could be….completely fricking BORING.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Besides all of the game breaking bugs and shitposting Skyrim is actually a fun game.
This is some nice historical revisionism from what people said in 2011 where the number one claim was that EVERYTHING in Skyrim was garbage, and only mods could save any aspect of it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
nta but they're very similar and I'm genuinely confused by how much the Skyrim crowd seethes about Starfield. The main quest is horrible, I'll give you that. Other than that it's just Skyrim with extra loading screens
3 months ago
Anonymous
Skyrim has exploration with a lot of unique content. Starfield just has procedurally generated planets that repeat the same Pirate outpost and caves over and over. There is zero immersion.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>lot of unique content
The frick are you on about, Starfield has more unique content than Skyrim had on launch. Yes outposts are repeated but there's absolute shitton of them so you can do a lot without repeating. I played the game for 140 hours and the only times the game actually forced me to do repeated dungeons was in the main quest. Like I said, the main quest is shit, I agree. Outside of it you don't really have to do repeated dungeons, you can tell if you've done it or not and just ignore it if you did >exploration
In Skyrim you walk until you stumble upon something to do and sometimes you run into an NPC. Here you scan planets to find something to do and sometimes you run into an npc in orbit. Yeah Skyrim does feel more natural but is it really that big of a deal, it's just the way you go from A to B that changed, A and B are exactly the same
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Starfield has more unique content than Skyrim had on launch
Does it though? Genuinely asking. As far as I know we don't have any quantitative data to compare but from the impression I've got it actually has less content, it's just more spread out to give the impression of a bigger scope
3 months ago
Anonymous
>walk to the regional checkpoint >loading screen >walking along the road >forsworn random encounter >loading screen >"Never should of come here!" >FUS RO D- >loading screen >*crashes to desktop* >last autosave was six hours ago
3 months ago
Anonymous
Anon there's a loading screen every time you open a door in Skyrim. Let's not pretend it's some kind of a seamless experience
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah for a game that was already outdated 15 years ago. The fact that these problems still persist means that time runs slower over at Bethesda HQ.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Never said the game is a masterpiece, just that it's bizzare to me how much Skyrim fans hate it. It's not that different from Skyrim, it just seems different at first
3 months ago
Anonymous
>just that it's bizzare to me how much Skyrim fans hate it
Most normal people expect a better quality product 13 years later, not the same shit with a different coat of paint.
3 months ago
Anonymous
After F4 and F76 literally nobody expected a game better than Skyrim the frick are you talking about. It's better than F4 which already eclipses my expectations
3 months ago
Anonymous
>After F4
One of the best selling games of the game >and F76
Not even made by Bethesda Maryland.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Might have something to do with the fact that the next TES game is set to release sometime around late 2030. I'd be pissed too if I ended up kicking the bucket long before the gameplay trailer goes up.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not him but many games still use loading screens for interiors. Its a fairly typical thing to do. Bethesda just doesn't hit it behind a short cutscene loadscreen.
3 months ago
Anonymous
If Skyrim was like Starfield you would need a loading screen for every POI on the map.
3 months ago
Anonymous
not him you need a load screen to investigate basically every POI on the map that isn't just >Giant camp with two giants sitting around
Caves? Dwemer ruins? old imperial forts? Ancient nordic ruins? LOAD SCREEN LOAD SCREEN LOAD SCREEN
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Giant camp with two giants sitting around
If it was like Starfield you would need to fast travel just to access this.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not really. Once you land at a spot on a planet there's like 10-15 POIs on average in the area you land.
Which include the larger buildings and smaller outdoor only shit like giant cmaps in Skyrim.
It's not just that tho, there is something fundamentally lacking in starfields gameplay loop. I'm not saying it's a horrible experience, just very dissapointing. The amount of loading and fricking around is actual dogshit. There is no magic or wonder that can match the first time I played Oblivion or Skyrim
Skyrim >otherworldly success from day 1 >bethesda proudly stated its sales numbers >beloved by millions even with the thousands of bugs making the game barely playable >map vacuum packed with points of interest >still being played by the tens of thousands every single day even 13 years later
Shitfield >brand new game 20 years in the gaming >its just fallout 4 with 16x the loading screens and somehow even worse character models >bethesda refuses to state its sales numbers, to embarrassed by how badly it flopped >absolutely fricking nothing to explore and find, and that's literally by design >forgotten in a month
3 months ago
Anonymous
>bethesda refuses to state its sales numbers, to embarrassed by how badly it flopped
You're actually demented if you think its a flop.
And Bethesda didn't give out sales numbers for Skyrim for several years after it came out.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You're actually demented if you think its a flop.
And yet they refuse to state it's sales numbers. Successes aren't afraid of revealing sales numbers. >And Bethesda didn't give out sales numbers for Skyrim for several years after it came out.
KEK
>Starfield has no mods is the difference
Currently the 11th most modded game on Nexus, even without its CK.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>11th place
3 months ago
Anonymous
>it has literally 1/100th the downloads of skyrim mods
Did you intend for this to be a self-own or are you actually moronic
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Expecting a game with NO CK to have the same number of mods/downloads as a game thats been out for 13 years
Do you really think that something thats been out for less then 1/13 of the time having nowhere near the downloads is a self own?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>but guys it's 11th place!
3 months ago
Anonymous
>No actual response >Just memes
K
3 months ago
Anonymous
>11th >place
3 months ago
Anonymous
11
1
3 months ago
Anonymous
Black person it has significantly less downloads than a majority of the games on that page, most of which do not have official modding tools.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Black person it has significantly less downloads than a majority of the games on that page, most of which do not have official modding tools.
There are over 2,709 games on Nexus. starfield is number 11 >Less downloads than a majority of games
Uhh no?
And
1. Starfield doesn't have official mod tools yet either.
2. Those other games have been out far longer.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>11th place
3 months ago
Anonymous
ELEVENTH PLACE
3 months ago
Anonymous
>less downloads than a majority of the games on that page
Is what I said you stupid gigaBlack person
3 months ago
Anonymous
>11th most modded game
3 months ago
Anonymous
and most of these mods are insignificant changes because like stated before there's no Creation Kit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>script extender >UI revamps >Lighting overhauls >insignificant
That's like 95% of skyrmi's mods even with the CK
Skyrim was a worldwide cultural phenomenon instantly on release, people discussed it everywhere for months and months, Skyrim was so popular it was a gateway into gaming for many people who didn't even play games before.
Starfield is a laughable wet fart in comparison and if you think 13 years later anyone will ever remember it, aside from mocking comparisons with Skyrim, you are simply delusional.
https://gamerant.com/starfield-sales-xbox-game-pass/ >Starfield became the best-selling game in the U.S. over a five-week period, outselling other new releases, and positioned itself as the seventh best-selling game of the year.
https://gamerant.com/starfield-sales-xbox-game-pass/ >Starfield became the best-selling game in the U.S. over a five-week period, outselling other new releases, and positioned itself as the seventh best-selling game of the year.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Saying "its the best selling game, trust us!" doesn't equal stating sales numbers. Try again pajeet
[...]
SARS DO MOT REDEEM BLODDY b***h BENCHOD FRICK
The absolute fricking STATE of Starfield. Imagine getting raped day after day, week after week, month after month, by a 13 year old game.
Skyrim >Has creation kit out >has 13 years worth of mods that let you turn it into anything you want >Long established IP
Starfield >New IP >No Creation Kit >Limited mods due to no Creation Kit
>WHY ARE THEY DIFFERENT!
Hmmmm
Skyrim >otherworldly success from day 1 >bethesda proudly stated its sales numbers >beloved by millions even with the thousands of bugs making the game barely playable >map vacuum packed with points of interest >still being played by the tens of thousands every single day even 13 years later
Shitfield >brand new game 20 years in the gaming >its just fallout 4 with 16x the loading screens and somehow even worse character models >bethesda refuses to state its sales numbers, to embarrassed by how badly it flopped >absolutely fricking nothing to explore and find, and that's literally by design >forgotten in a month
>11th place >still can’t beat morrowind >STARDEW VALLEY and cyberpunk beat it
I’m fricking LAUGHING
this is the OP that has been making daily filteredcope threads about starfield for 6 months now, btw
I really don’t know what the frick you’re talking about but I find it hilarious either way. This is the 2nd thread I’ve made since starfield released. Might want to double up on those meds.
assuming most people post 1 time and close the thread, that means 16 people have contributed 99 posts
1 of those is the samegayging spammer OP, considering he has been in this thread for at least 2 hours, and in the previous thread for at least 5 hours, he's been spamming for 7 hours straight
now you try to tell me this is your 2nd thread, when you clearly have mental illness to do this...?
>make thread on shitter >Go watch boxing with a friend occasionally pulling up Ganker while having a smoke >see thread is still up >laugh at the replies >make new thread and laugh more while I lay down next to my wife
>seethes on Ganker for 7 hours on a weekend
your life is sad, and you having to lie to cover it up is sadder
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ok have a good night anon, I’ll be laughing again when I pull up the thread again in the morning. Maybe I’ll make another one before I go grab some breakfast sandwiches from the deli.
3 months ago
Anonymous
do whatever you want, im not sure what lying about your unhealthy obsession with spamming about starfield on Ganker is going to accomplish, people are going to keep playing the game and discussing it long after you get bored of spamming threads about it
3 months ago
Anonymous
not him but you are the only one that has been seething in this thread
if you had to load into a new zone every time you traveled halfway across a province and were visually limited from seeing an interconnected, detailed, living world around you, Skyrim would get boring so fricking fast
>uh oh someone isn't part of the circlejerk
Don't worry I won't be around for long, arguing with people who haven't played the game gets boring very fast
I played the game, it’s not a fun or engaging experience at all and to top it off I had a save bug after a few hours of playing where my ship was spawning lopsided at the akila city port and couldn’t fast travel anywhere. You have bad taste man.
>You have bad taste man.
I'm not saying it's a great game, just that it's not much worse than Skyrim. If you assumed that means it's great, well that's your taste revealed
With most Starfield haters it's true, they haven't done anything outside of the horrible main quest and then they try to tell you how horrible everything outside of the main quest is. It's bizarre arguing with these people
I hope they just abandon it and make tes 6 really good. I know neither of these things will happen tho. They will continue to try to fix this dogshit game fail for years and push back the release of tes 6 and when that comes out it will be even more dumbed down trash.
>I know neither of these things will happen tho
What could I have meant by this
If that one TES6 leaks thread is anything to go by they took all the wrong lessons from SF and are doubling down on the proc gen content. You have to understand that asking Bethesda to make a good game is asking them (Todd, Emil, etc.) to be fundamentally different people. There’s absolutely no reason TES6 will be any different from the games that came before it. And you’re especially fricked if you think Phil Spencer is going to hold them to any kind of accountability.
I think Emil is the absolute worst of the worst at Bethesda which is very impressive considering how incompetent these Black folk are. Emil should be fired and thrown to the streets homeless without a dime to his name. I hate that homosexual so much. Todd has always been a liar hack but he is at least a bit fun to meme about and trick morons that fall for todd posting he can stay but he should have nothing to do with making games.
If that one TES6 leaks thread is anything to go by they took all the wrong lessons from SF and are doubling down on the proc gen content. You have to understand that asking Bethesda to make a good game is asking them (Todd, Emil, etc.) to be fundamentally different people. There’s absolutely no reason TES6 will be any different from the games that came before it. And you’re especially fricked if you think Phil Spencer is going to hold them to any kind of accountability.
He lost 50% of his games' charm by not having soule anymore
And the other 50% (atmosphere and exploration) was lost by trading it for a slightly better polished piece of shit in that old engine being manipulated by outsourced pajeets
They ditched the only things that made bethesda games somewhat unique lmao what a fricking curly turd of a game
>He lost 50% of his games' charm by not having soule anymore
Zur has done better then Soule outside of Soule's main themes for Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim
There probably will be one major release coming still.
They'll want to turn it around like cyberpunk if they can, but this being bethesda, whatever they do isn't going to be half as good to everyone else as they think it is, so it'll be over after that.
>skyrim and fallout 4 both had all of their dlc released within a year (two expansions each + multiple small dlcs) >it's been six months and we still don't have any word on starfields first dlc (which was announced before release)
uhhhh toddbros? should we be worried....
>TES6 will take at least 6 years in development >people will have to wait entire generation to see if Bethesda learned anything from FO4, 76 and Starfield (likely not)
Funny thing is that people most likely bought PS4 expecting TES6
It works both ways, if you schizo spam starfield, then you will get schizo defenders. If you weren't a loser moron like the OP who spends 7 hours a day seething about the game on Ganker you'd have moved on like everyone else.
Some “people” base their entire personality and worldview on the products they consume. Any criticism of those products is seen as a personal attack on them as “people” we live in a world full of these hylics
This shit has me so concerned. I've been looking forward to the next ES title and now we're dealing with all this minority check list and AI trash at all levels.
Fallout 4 was dogshit too the only positive to that game is the settlement system that most people hate but I find it adds a shit ton role playing opportunities because I always just conquer the map build up settlements and turn it into a NatSoc empire where I gas all the ghouls synths Black folk and other undesirables. I build very intricate gas chambers with gas grenades the base ball launchers and radiation traps to accomplish this task. Other then that it’s a trash game. I never play the story or any of the quests. I don’t even particularly enjoy the dungeon crawling and the combat is terrible because of the shitty AI.
Its clear there is a market for the kind of RPGs Bethesda used to make, why is no other studio trying to fill the gap they left? Larian took advantage of Bioware's decay took its place >Obsidian?
Nah, Im being serious here
Cyberpunk never tried to copy Skyrim model. There are no persistent elements, no rewards for exploring or roaming around. Its mostly a very linear game stuck in a big, unused map
So was skyrim. The main difference between the two is someone at CDPR has a major fricking hardon for removing random encounters. 2077 shipped with them, then they were removed with a patch. They were added back in again with the expansion, then removed a month later.
I really don't get it but there's this internal back and forth war against making exploration fun in 2077. Skyrim's strength was its random encounters and populating the world around you with tabletop style stuff. Starfield didn't have that either and its why exploration in it fell completely flat.
There is none, he is making shit up
The only thing you can encounter in Cyberpunk is dead bodies with a message about how they died, thats all the reward for exploring
3 months ago
Anonymous
I guess I rang the gaslighting homosexual /vg/ general bell talking about the forbidden 2077 random encounters.
Gangoons would sometimes hunt you down and attack you in their respective territories. After the expansion added vehicular combat it was reintroduced and cars full of them would attack you or random other gangers. It was removed entirely less than a couple months later.
Every time I pointed it out in the 2077 general and asked what the frick was going on a bunch of spergs would start brigading about how they hated it and they're glad its gone because it ruined their ASMR immersive waifu screenshot experience. Very gay and weird.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Gangoons would sometimes hunt you down and attack you in their respective territories.
That has never been in the game. >After the expansion added vehicular combat it was reintroduced and cars full of them would attack you or random other gangers. It was removed entirely less than a couple months later.
That is still in the game, as are police chases with them.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>That has never been in the game.
Yes it was in the game, during two different patch rounds. Right after release and the first major update before the expansion. People were whining about it for the reasons above I stated already. >That is still in the game, as are police chases with them.
Its not. Removed as of the latest patch.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Yes it was in the game
No it wasn't, not at launch. The only time something like this has been in the game was in 2.1, where it was added as a feature. >Its not. Removed as of the latest patch.
No, it isn't. I played this game last night on the latest patch and saw it happen.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>No, it isn't. I played this game last night on the latest patch and saw it happen.
I bet its not the latest patch and/or modded. Double check your shit. I don't need to because I'm playing the latest patch on xbrick that forces updates and it just completely stopped happening entirely after the last one.
As for release I don't know what to tell you. The first time I played the damn game cars full of a gangoons would just roll up and they'd all get out and start shooting until a 'hotfix' removed it. Game felt way deader and sterile afterwards.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I bet its not the latest patch and/or modded.
It's the latest patch. The reason people on /vg/ and now Ganker are all telling you that you're wrong is because, you are wrong. I'll bet what happened is that you're on a streak of none spawning and you're erroneously assuming they've been "removed". >As for release I don't know what to tell you. The first time I played the damn game cars full of a gangoons would just roll up and they'd all get out and start shooting until a 'hotfix' removed it. Game felt way deader and sterile afterwards.
Again, this was simply not a launch feature. I'm going to guess what happened here. There's a handful of Gigs that will spawns enemies outside the building where the Gig takes place, if you go in loud. If you're stealthy or quiet, they don't spawn. You probably experienced the Gig in both versions and made some assumptions.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>you're on a streak of none spawning
Statistically impossibly with the frequency it happened before. Maybe there's a bug where starting a new game skipped to expansion content causes it to not happen at all, but it was already not happening well before I started a new game to try a different build. >Again, this was simply not a launch feature. I'm going to guess what happened here. There's a handful of Gigs that will spawns enemies outside the building where the Gig takes place, if you go in loud.
I thought you were going to say that. No, I know the difference between a random event and a scripted one. I tested it extensively just walking around the city to trigger them and they absolutely were happening up until X patch removed them and a bunch of homosexuals were celebrating the fact on reddit and the general.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>and they absolutely were happening up until X patch removed them and a bunch of homosexuals were celebrating the fact on reddit and the general.
Anon I've been playing this game and in the generals since day one and can tell you that this is false. Proof or frick off please
3 months ago
Anonymous
Do you really hate the idea of random encounters fricking up your waifugay screenshot sessions so much you have to gaslight like this?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't take waifugay screenshots and I quite like the random encounters. You know, the ones that are in the game right now. The ones they made more intricate with the most recent patch
Anon you need your meds. Seriously
3 months ago
Anonymous
There are two possibilities. You're a lying homosexual, because I know I'm not a lying homosexual.
The second is there's an underlying mechanic that determines whether they happen or not we don't know about. Like high enough street cred suppressing the event triggers.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The second is there's an underlying mechanic that determines whether they happen or not we don't know about.
All this talk about patches and you can't read patch notes. The random gangs chasing you has to do with you siding against them in gigs and story missions. If you've done nothing to anger them they won't ever frick with you. You are so stupid anon
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You are so stupid anon
If I'm so stupid why didn't you just say that earlier?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Sorry for assuming you read patch notes when you were constantly talking about features patches added and removed. I gave you too much credit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Its not. Removed as of the latest patch.
I am literally playing through PL a 2nd time right now and can conform it is indeed in the game. These things also did not exist on launch. Proof or frick off you Black
3 months ago
Anonymous
>cars full of them would attack you or random other ganger
It was never a thing, only in car stealing missions and those are still there
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Gangoons would sometimes hunt you down and attack you in their respective territories
This never happened in c2077 on launch
>After the expansion added vehicular combat it was reintroduced and cars full of them would attack you or random other gangers. It was removed entirely less than a couple months later.
This wasn't removed and is still present in the game. Not only is it still present but they actually expanded on it, and the gangs will even fight each other or get chased by the cops while coming after you too.
why does Ganker have such a hateboner for games they don't play
> why is no other studio trying to fill the gap they left?
No one has the tech/history to do it.
Bethesda games have a lot of issues because they are stupidly inefficiently made, because they kidna have to be. Its not worth the risk for any company when they could just make more GAAS shit
Na, to get Bethesda games to be Bethesda games there's a lot of shit they do that very few if any other games do becuase its a coding nightmare/performance sink
Bethesda games >Render each individual piece of armor, clothing, face masks, sunglasses, rings, etc are separate objects so they can be taken of.
This compared to other games where NPCs + clothes are modeled/textured as one object since nothing get removed >Have individual NPC scripting for all named NPCs, and even a lot of the generic NPCs, that has to run AT ALL TIMES, even if the player isn't in the same cell, so the game can keep track of them for quest and shit
Games like GTA on the other hand just use a large master AI to make NPCs walk around the block all day since they don't have to do anything. >Bethesda game have hundreds, thousands, of physics enabled objects everywhere taking up a shit ton of processing power.
Most other games just super glue everything in one spot in the game world and don't allow it to be moved. >Bethesda games saved where every single object has been moved from its original position so that continuity is maintained until the cell resets sometime later
Games like GTA just reset everything every timeyou go through a doorway or go past sight distance so it doesn't have to keep track of anything.
The immersion/intractability in Bethesda games is a giant resource/modeling/coding nightmare no game dev wants to deal with.
>It's fricking OVER
It never began, this game was never going to be anything. The only reason it was even relevant is because fabio and a bunch of shill went apeshit and started spamming threads for weeks before, during, and after release.
It's not over
You'll eat your words
This
Like Pokemon, WE WILL have our revenge
It's actually over.
Sad cope
You're right, things can get even worse
Please redeem!
snoy cope
Game sucks bro sorry
You're being too generous. It's rancid liquid shit, mixed with puke and aids.
You guys make these threads just to draw out that pajeet and laugh at him while he seethes the whole thread don't you
Yea
Either this or you wait for the daily TNV threads to pop up on the catalog. Like a moth to a flame anytime these two topics makes themselves known.
Todd Howard never had a clue wtf he was doing. He was carried by the talents of the world designers.
Funny how the more technology progresses the more old gaming icons get exposed
>one of said world designers bounced out after the frickup that was Fallout 76
>dropped a few hints about how the company is going through a corporate restructure ever since M$ bought them out causing a small exodus to happen in response
>now hes working on his own game about hunting cryptids with a bow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXu7b9l-LWg
The writing has been on the wall for a while but it was clear that a lot was riding on this game to be a runaway success that would mog Skyrim in its heyday. Maybe the mods will fix it if they ever come out in the next decade or so.
Wait didn’t Todd say that they wanted people to be playing starfield for the next 10 years? It hasn’t been even half a year and it’s almost dead.
For once I dont think Microsoft was to blame for Starfield
Zenimax would had forced Bethesda to release a year earlier and the game would had been equally soulless and with extra bugs
there's virtually no overlap in the people who made the """good""" bethesda games and 76, and 76 came out years before M$ purchased bethesda lol
>6 months
>only small bug fixes
>No mods
>No Expansions
>SILL NO SALES NUMBERS RELEASED
>no sales numbers
Wait what? Seriously?
Seriously. Game Pass absolutely RAPED the games sales. Both Microsoft and Bethesda refuse to state sales numbers and tout meaningless number of "players" instead because the sales are so bad.
The absolute fricking STATE of Starfield. Imagine getting raped day after day, week after week, month after month, by a 13 year old game.
Come home, Nord man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqkQRgGdAPo
Skyrim
>Has creation kit out
>has 13 years worth of mods that let you turn it into anything you want
>Long established IP
Starfield
>New IP
>No Creation Kit
>Limited mods due to no Creation Kit
>WHY ARE THEY DIFFERENT!
Hmmmm
>WHY ARE THEY DIFFERENT!
Besides all of the game breaking bugs and shitposting Skyrim is actually a fun game. Starfield is the worst thing a game could be….completely fricking BORING.
>Besides all of the game breaking bugs and shitposting Skyrim is actually a fun game.
This is some nice historical revisionism from what people said in 2011 where the number one claim was that EVERYTHING in Skyrim was garbage, and only mods could save any aspect of it.
nta but they're very similar and I'm genuinely confused by how much the Skyrim crowd seethes about Starfield. The main quest is horrible, I'll give you that. Other than that it's just Skyrim with extra loading screens
Skyrim has exploration with a lot of unique content. Starfield just has procedurally generated planets that repeat the same Pirate outpost and caves over and over. There is zero immersion.
>lot of unique content
The frick are you on about, Starfield has more unique content than Skyrim had on launch. Yes outposts are repeated but there's absolute shitton of them so you can do a lot without repeating. I played the game for 140 hours and the only times the game actually forced me to do repeated dungeons was in the main quest. Like I said, the main quest is shit, I agree. Outside of it you don't really have to do repeated dungeons, you can tell if you've done it or not and just ignore it if you did
>exploration
In Skyrim you walk until you stumble upon something to do and sometimes you run into an NPC. Here you scan planets to find something to do and sometimes you run into an npc in orbit. Yeah Skyrim does feel more natural but is it really that big of a deal, it's just the way you go from A to B that changed, A and B are exactly the same
>Starfield has more unique content than Skyrim had on launch
Does it though? Genuinely asking. As far as I know we don't have any quantitative data to compare but from the impression I've got it actually has less content, it's just more spread out to give the impression of a bigger scope
>walk to the regional checkpoint
>loading screen
>walking along the road
>forsworn random encounter
>loading screen
>"Never should of come here!"
>FUS RO D-
>loading screen
>*crashes to desktop*
>last autosave was six hours ago
Anon there's a loading screen every time you open a door in Skyrim. Let's not pretend it's some kind of a seamless experience
Yeah for a game that was already outdated 15 years ago. The fact that these problems still persist means that time runs slower over at Bethesda HQ.
Never said the game is a masterpiece, just that it's bizzare to me how much Skyrim fans hate it. It's not that different from Skyrim, it just seems different at first
>just that it's bizzare to me how much Skyrim fans hate it
Most normal people expect a better quality product 13 years later, not the same shit with a different coat of paint.
After F4 and F76 literally nobody expected a game better than Skyrim the frick are you talking about. It's better than F4 which already eclipses my expectations
>After F4
One of the best selling games of the game
>and F76
Not even made by Bethesda Maryland.
Might have something to do with the fact that the next TES game is set to release sometime around late 2030. I'd be pissed too if I ended up kicking the bucket long before the gameplay trailer goes up.
Not him but many games still use loading screens for interiors. Its a fairly typical thing to do. Bethesda just doesn't hit it behind a short cutscene loadscreen.
If Skyrim was like Starfield you would need a loading screen for every POI on the map.
not him you need a load screen to investigate basically every POI on the map that isn't just
>Giant camp with two giants sitting around
Caves? Dwemer ruins? old imperial forts? Ancient nordic ruins? LOAD SCREEN LOAD SCREEN LOAD SCREEN
>Giant camp with two giants sitting around
If it was like Starfield you would need to fast travel just to access this.
Not really. Once you land at a spot on a planet there's like 10-15 POIs on average in the area you land.
Which include the larger buildings and smaller outdoor only shit like giant cmaps in Skyrim.
It's not just that tho, there is something fundamentally lacking in starfields gameplay loop. I'm not saying it's a horrible experience, just very dissapointing. The amount of loading and fricking around is actual dogshit. There is no magic or wonder that can match the first time I played Oblivion or Skyrim
Skyrim
>otherworldly success from day 1
>bethesda proudly stated its sales numbers
>beloved by millions even with the thousands of bugs making the game barely playable
>map vacuum packed with points of interest
>still being played by the tens of thousands every single day even 13 years later
Shitfield
>brand new game 20 years in the gaming
>its just fallout 4 with 16x the loading screens and somehow even worse character models
>bethesda refuses to state its sales numbers, to embarrassed by how badly it flopped
>absolutely fricking nothing to explore and find, and that's literally by design
>forgotten in a month
>bethesda refuses to state its sales numbers, to embarrassed by how badly it flopped
You're actually demented if you think its a flop.
And Bethesda didn't give out sales numbers for Skyrim for several years after it came out.
>You're actually demented if you think its a flop.
And yet they refuse to state it's sales numbers. Successes aren't afraid of revealing sales numbers.
>And Bethesda didn't give out sales numbers for Skyrim for several years after it came out.
KEK
BTFO
Got em
Rekt
Somehow, it's even more OVER
shitter shattered
Starfield has no mods is the difference
>Starfield has no mods is the difference
Currently the 11th most modded game on Nexus, even without its CK.
>11th place
>it has literally 1/100th the downloads of skyrim mods
Did you intend for this to be a self-own or are you actually moronic
>Expecting a game with NO CK to have the same number of mods/downloads as a game thats been out for 13 years
Do you really think that something thats been out for less then 1/13 of the time having nowhere near the downloads is a self own?
>but guys it's 11th place!
>No actual response
>Just memes
K
>11th
>place
11
1
Black person it has significantly less downloads than a majority of the games on that page, most of which do not have official modding tools.
>Black person it has significantly less downloads than a majority of the games on that page, most of which do not have official modding tools.
There are over 2,709 games on Nexus. starfield is number 11
>Less downloads than a majority of games
Uhh no?
And
1. Starfield doesn't have official mod tools yet either.
2. Those other games have been out far longer.
>11th place
ELEVENTH PLACE
>less downloads than a majority of the games on that page
Is what I said you stupid gigaBlack person
>11th most modded game
and most of these mods are insignificant changes because like stated before there's no Creation Kit.
>script extender
>UI revamps
>Lighting overhauls
>insignificant
That's like 95% of skyrmi's mods even with the CK
Skyrim was a worldwide cultural phenomenon instantly on release, people discussed it everywhere for months and months, Skyrim was so popular it was a gateway into gaming for many people who didn't even play games before.
Starfield is a laughable wet fart in comparison and if you think 13 years later anyone will ever remember it, aside from mocking comparisons with Skyrim, you are simply delusional.
https://www.ign.com/articles/starfield-was-the-best-selling-game-of-september-2023-in-the-us-even-with-game-pass
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/10/25/starfield-just-made-microsoft-and-xbox-a-ton-of-money/
https://gamerant.com/starfield-sales-xbox-game-pass/
>Starfield became the best-selling game in the U.S. over a five-week period, outselling other new releases, and positioned itself as the seventh best-selling game of the year.
>seventh best-selling game of the year.
That’s kind of a flop for them no?
No? Bethesda games, outside of like skyrim, have never been THE top selling game of the year. Hell even Skyrim was only number 5 in 2011.
>sources for their claims: n/a
Also according to Steams 2023 stats Starfield was the 3rd best selling game on Steam only being BG3 and Hogwarts, ranking in like 235 million.
That's nice and all. Show me the numbers.
See
Saying "its the best selling game, trust us!" doesn't equal stating sales numbers. Try again pajeet
Did anybody get the starfield Uber eats back in October?
>starfield toilet paper
MY FRICKING SIDES
SARS DO MOT REDEEM BLODDY b***h BENCHOD FRICK
>they'll never get a taste of me lucky charms.webm
The one thing I can praise is the variety of foodstuffs available.
Finally we can wipe our ass with shartfield
>Your slop, Commander.
>succulent
It really is nothing short of pathetic how badly they want to fabricate this meme.
why are bots on Ganker so shit?
>bots
I linked to the new thread after the old one hit bump limit moron. Take your fricking meds ranjeet.
You write like AI
You post like redeemer
keeek
this is the OP that has been making daily filteredcope threads about starfield for 6 months now, btw
I really don’t know what the frick you’re talking about but I find it hilarious either way. This is the 2nd thread I’ve made since starfield released. Might want to double up on those meds.
ok explain why the IP stats show 115/33
assuming most people post 1 time and close the thread, that means 16 people have contributed 99 posts
1 of those is the samegayging spammer OP, considering he has been in this thread for at least 2 hours, and in the previous thread for at least 5 hours, he's been spamming for 7 hours straight
now you try to tell me this is your 2nd thread, when you clearly have mental illness to do this...?
>YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO POST IN A THREAD ONCE!!!!
>make thread on shitter
>Go watch boxing with a friend occasionally pulling up Ganker while having a smoke
>see thread is still up
>laugh at the replies
>make new thread and laugh more while I lay down next to my wife
Vs
>you seething for 7+ hours defending a shit game
11th place
>seethes on Ganker for 7 hours on a weekend
your life is sad, and you having to lie to cover it up is sadder
Ok have a good night anon, I’ll be laughing again when I pull up the thread again in the morning. Maybe I’ll make another one before I go grab some breakfast sandwiches from the deli.
do whatever you want, im not sure what lying about your unhealthy obsession with spamming about starfield on Ganker is going to accomplish, people are going to keep playing the game and discussing it long after you get bored of spamming threads about it
not him but you are the only one that has been seething in this thread
you are as deranged as the guy you're trying to expose and you don't even realize
11th place ranjeet
this Black person is the hall monitor at Bethesda KWAB
Mind raped
why are you pretending to be me
people wouldn't be celebrating the failure if they didn't dunk so loud, so early
Todd is on suicide watch
This was never meant to succeed and it succeeded in doing that.
if you had to load into a new zone every time you traveled halfway across a province and were visually limited from seeing an interconnected, detailed, living world around you, Skyrim would get boring so fricking fast
The pajeet is here. Time to kick back and enjoy the thread.
>uh oh someone isn't part of the circlejerk
Don't worry I won't be around for long, arguing with people who haven't played the game gets boring very fast
I played the game, it’s not a fun or engaging experience at all and to top it off I had a save bug after a few hours of playing where my ship was spawning lopsided at the akila city port and couldn’t fast travel anywhere. You have bad taste man.
>You have bad taste man.
I'm not saying it's a great game, just that it's not much worse than Skyrim. If you assumed that means it's great, well that's your taste revealed
>Y-You didn’t p-play it
The ultimate cope
With most Starfield haters it's true, they haven't done anything outside of the horrible main quest and then they try to tell you how horrible everything outside of the main quest is. It's bizarre arguing with these people
At this point, I'm starting to think not even the porn modders will touch this game.
There's already porn mods for Starfield, at least nude mods.
I hope they just abandon it and make tes 6 really good. I know neither of these things will happen tho. They will continue to try to fix this dogshit game fail for years and push back the release of tes 6 and when that comes out it will be even more dumbed down trash.
>make tes 6 really good
Anon, they have done everythin in their power to prove that they are uncapable of doing this.
>I know neither of these things will happen tho
What could I have meant by this
I think Emil is the absolute worst of the worst at Bethesda which is very impressive considering how incompetent these Black folk are. Emil should be fired and thrown to the streets homeless without a dime to his name. I hate that homosexual so much. Todd has always been a liar hack but he is at least a bit fun to meme about and trick morons that fall for todd posting he can stay but he should have nothing to do with making games.
If that one TES6 leaks thread is anything to go by they took all the wrong lessons from SF and are doubling down on the proc gen content. You have to understand that asking Bethesda to make a good game is asking them (Todd, Emil, etc.) to be fundamentally different people. There’s absolutely no reason TES6 will be any different from the games that came before it. And you’re especially fricked if you think Phil Spencer is going to hold them to any kind of accountability.
>he's here
>start seeing rampant arguing in other threads about woke shit
How many posts a day you guys figure this pajeet makes
He gets paid in gamepiss subscriptions
Make a bg3 game and watch him work overtime.
He lost 50% of his games' charm by not having soule anymore
And the other 50% (atmosphere and exploration) was lost by trading it for a slightly better polished piece of shit in that old engine being manipulated by outsourced pajeets
They ditched the only things that made bethesda games somewhat unique lmao what a fricking curly turd of a game
>He lost 50% of his games' charm by not having soule anymore
Zur has done better then Soule outside of Soule's main themes for Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim
Shores of Hazeron MOGS starfield and it was pretty much made by one person over 20 years ago and I can build my own cities and create races.
>11th place
>still can’t beat morrowind
>STARDEW VALLEY and cyberpunk beat it
I’m fricking LAUGHING
Bros….we did it…,the seventh best selling game of 2023 and eleventh in mod popularity
>7/11
PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL
3 cents
This is 3 cents that could be used to save an entire Indian village
Theyll just use the money to get wasted in cow urine anyway
Imagine being the poor c**t that paid full price for this prior to release.
There probably will be one major release coming still.
They'll want to turn it around like cyberpunk if they can, but this being bethesda, whatever they do isn't going to be half as good to everyone else as they think it is, so it'll be over after that.
>skyrim and fallout 4 both had all of their dlc released within a year (two expansions each + multiple small dlcs)
>it's been six months and we still don't have any word on starfields first dlc (which was announced before release)
uhhhh toddbros? should we be worried....
>Skyrim came out Nov 2011
>Dawngaurd didn't come out until June 2012, 7 months later
>Fallout 4 came out in Nov 2015
>Far Harbor came out in May 2016, 6 months later
>Starfield came out Sep 2023
>Its now Feb 2024, only 5 months later
We still got another month or two before shattered Space would come out.
>TES6 will take at least 6 years in development
>people will have to wait entire generation to see if Bethesda learned anything from FO4, 76 and Starfield (likely not)
Funny thing is that people most likely bought PS4 expecting TES6
i bought an xbox one expecting TES6
If it makes you feel better, I bought the Wii in hopes of buying several games that were only ever released in Japan.
This but for Eternal Crusade. I still don't know what actually happened to that game let alone the supposed console ports that were in the works.
why do people who play this game so angrily defend it? It's a mediocre demo at BEST.
It works both ways, if you schizo spam starfield, then you will get schizo defenders. If you weren't a loser moron like the OP who spends 7 hours a day seething about the game on Ganker you'd have moved on like everyone else.
>he was still here
fricking lmao
(You)
Some “people” base their entire personality and worldview on the products they consume. Any criticism of those products is seen as a personal attack on them as “people” we live in a world full of these hylics
>You now notice the new Elder Scrolls game will have AI slop, filled with black and gay people every corner and still somehow being worse than Skyrim
Not buying day 1, waiting till it comes out, Bethesda hasnt made a good game since MAYBE fallout 4
This shit has me so concerned. I've been looking forward to the next ES title and now we're dealing with all this minority check list and AI trash at all levels.
Fallout 4 was dogshit too the only positive to that game is the settlement system that most people hate but I find it adds a shit ton role playing opportunities because I always just conquer the map build up settlements and turn it into a NatSoc empire where I gas all the ghouls synths Black folk and other undesirables. I build very intricate gas chambers with gas grenades the base ball launchers and radiation traps to accomplish this task. Other then that it’s a trash game. I never play the story or any of the quests. I don’t even particularly enjoy the dungeon crawling and the combat is terrible because of the shitty AI.
>make a space sim the most straightest white man genre on earth
>clearly market it to leftist roasties and pocs
>????
>No profit
What did Todd mean by this
Its clear there is a market for the kind of RPGs Bethesda used to make, why is no other studio trying to fill the gap they left? Larian took advantage of Bioware's decay took its place
>Obsidian?
Nah, Im being serious here
They did. Cyberpunk 2077 was an attempt at that, but the next one will be unreal engine and probably even more pozzed than Starfield.
Guess it really is just over.
Cyberpunk never tried to copy Skyrim model. There are no persistent elements, no rewards for exploring or roaming around. Its mostly a very linear game stuck in a big, unused map
So was skyrim. The main difference between the two is someone at CDPR has a major fricking hardon for removing random encounters. 2077 shipped with them, then they were removed with a patch. They were added back in again with the expansion, then removed a month later.
I really don't get it but there's this internal back and forth war against making exploration fun in 2077. Skyrim's strength was its random encounters and populating the world around you with tabletop style stuff. Starfield didn't have that either and its why exploration in it fell completely flat.
Can you describe one of these random encounters that was in the game at launch, then removed, then added, then removed again?
There is none, he is making shit up
The only thing you can encounter in Cyberpunk is dead bodies with a message about how they died, thats all the reward for exploring
I guess I rang the gaslighting homosexual /vg/ general bell talking about the forbidden 2077 random encounters.
Meds please
Gangoons would sometimes hunt you down and attack you in their respective territories. After the expansion added vehicular combat it was reintroduced and cars full of them would attack you or random other gangers. It was removed entirely less than a couple months later.
Every time I pointed it out in the 2077 general and asked what the frick was going on a bunch of spergs would start brigading about how they hated it and they're glad its gone because it ruined their ASMR immersive waifu screenshot experience. Very gay and weird.
>Gangoons would sometimes hunt you down and attack you in their respective territories.
That has never been in the game.
>After the expansion added vehicular combat it was reintroduced and cars full of them would attack you or random other gangers. It was removed entirely less than a couple months later.
That is still in the game, as are police chases with them.
>That has never been in the game.
Yes it was in the game, during two different patch rounds. Right after release and the first major update before the expansion. People were whining about it for the reasons above I stated already.
>That is still in the game, as are police chases with them.
Its not. Removed as of the latest patch.
>Yes it was in the game
No it wasn't, not at launch. The only time something like this has been in the game was in 2.1, where it was added as a feature.
>Its not. Removed as of the latest patch.
No, it isn't. I played this game last night on the latest patch and saw it happen.
>No, it isn't. I played this game last night on the latest patch and saw it happen.
I bet its not the latest patch and/or modded. Double check your shit. I don't need to because I'm playing the latest patch on xbrick that forces updates and it just completely stopped happening entirely after the last one.
As for release I don't know what to tell you. The first time I played the damn game cars full of a gangoons would just roll up and they'd all get out and start shooting until a 'hotfix' removed it. Game felt way deader and sterile afterwards.
>I bet its not the latest patch and/or modded.
It's the latest patch. The reason people on /vg/ and now Ganker are all telling you that you're wrong is because, you are wrong. I'll bet what happened is that you're on a streak of none spawning and you're erroneously assuming they've been "removed".
>As for release I don't know what to tell you. The first time I played the damn game cars full of a gangoons would just roll up and they'd all get out and start shooting until a 'hotfix' removed it. Game felt way deader and sterile afterwards.
Again, this was simply not a launch feature. I'm going to guess what happened here. There's a handful of Gigs that will spawns enemies outside the building where the Gig takes place, if you go in loud. If you're stealthy or quiet, they don't spawn. You probably experienced the Gig in both versions and made some assumptions.
>you're on a streak of none spawning
Statistically impossibly with the frequency it happened before. Maybe there's a bug where starting a new game skipped to expansion content causes it to not happen at all, but it was already not happening well before I started a new game to try a different build.
>Again, this was simply not a launch feature. I'm going to guess what happened here. There's a handful of Gigs that will spawns enemies outside the building where the Gig takes place, if you go in loud.
I thought you were going to say that. No, I know the difference between a random event and a scripted one. I tested it extensively just walking around the city to trigger them and they absolutely were happening up until X patch removed them and a bunch of homosexuals were celebrating the fact on reddit and the general.
>and they absolutely were happening up until X patch removed them and a bunch of homosexuals were celebrating the fact on reddit and the general.
Anon I've been playing this game and in the generals since day one and can tell you that this is false. Proof or frick off please
Do you really hate the idea of random encounters fricking up your waifugay screenshot sessions so much you have to gaslight like this?
I don't take waifugay screenshots and I quite like the random encounters. You know, the ones that are in the game right now. The ones they made more intricate with the most recent patch
Anon you need your meds. Seriously
There are two possibilities. You're a lying homosexual, because I know I'm not a lying homosexual.
The second is there's an underlying mechanic that determines whether they happen or not we don't know about. Like high enough street cred suppressing the event triggers.
>The second is there's an underlying mechanic that determines whether they happen or not we don't know about.
All this talk about patches and you can't read patch notes. The random gangs chasing you has to do with you siding against them in gigs and story missions. If you've done nothing to anger them they won't ever frick with you. You are so stupid anon
>You are so stupid anon
If I'm so stupid why didn't you just say that earlier?
Sorry for assuming you read patch notes when you were constantly talking about features patches added and removed. I gave you too much credit.
>Its not. Removed as of the latest patch.
I am literally playing through PL a 2nd time right now and can conform it is indeed in the game. These things also did not exist on launch. Proof or frick off you Black
>cars full of them would attack you or random other ganger
It was never a thing, only in car stealing missions and those are still there
>Gangoons would sometimes hunt you down and attack you in their respective territories
This never happened in c2077 on launch
>After the expansion added vehicular combat it was reintroduced and cars full of them would attack you or random other gangers. It was removed entirely less than a couple months later.
This wasn't removed and is still present in the game. Not only is it still present but they actually expanded on it, and the gangs will even fight each other or get chased by the cops while coming after you too.
why does Ganker have such a hateboner for games they don't play
> why is no other studio trying to fill the gap they left?
No one has the tech/history to do it.
Bethesda games have a lot of issues because they are stupidly inefficiently made, because they kidna have to be. Its not worth the risk for any company when they could just make more GAAS shit
I doubt those old farts at Bethesda have magical code wizard tech no one else knows
Na, to get Bethesda games to be Bethesda games there's a lot of shit they do that very few if any other games do becuase its a coding nightmare/performance sink
Bethesda games
>Render each individual piece of armor, clothing, face masks, sunglasses, rings, etc are separate objects so they can be taken of.
This compared to other games where NPCs + clothes are modeled/textured as one object since nothing get removed
>Have individual NPC scripting for all named NPCs, and even a lot of the generic NPCs, that has to run AT ALL TIMES, even if the player isn't in the same cell, so the game can keep track of them for quest and shit
Games like GTA on the other hand just use a large master AI to make NPCs walk around the block all day since they don't have to do anything.
>Bethesda game have hundreds, thousands, of physics enabled objects everywhere taking up a shit ton of processing power.
Most other games just super glue everything in one spot in the game world and don't allow it to be moved.
>Bethesda games saved where every single object has been moved from its original position so that continuity is maintained until the cell resets sometime later
Games like GTA just reset everything every timeyou go through a doorway or go past sight distance so it doesn't have to keep track of anything.
The immersion/intractability in Bethesda games is a giant resource/modeling/coding nightmare no game dev wants to deal with.
OH NO
>according to bethesda
>total hours played
lol
lmao
By the time that CK comes out, no one will care
It was shit from the outset. Anyone with sense could tell it was going to be incredibly boring
Bethesda always has been funking useless at patching their games
>It's fricking OVER
It never began, this game was never going to be anything. The only reason it was even relevant is because fabio and a bunch of shill went apeshit and started spamming threads for weeks before, during, and after release.
Still playing it till this day. I got my money’s worth
India lost, reddit lost, Ganker won.