>$60 games were already expensive
>now they're fricking 70
how do you justify this?
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>$60 games were already expensive. >now they're fricking 70
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>now they're fricking 70
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Simple: dont fricking buy them
You dont need to play the latest goyslop at the immediate release
If the game is worth playing, it'll also be worth playing for half of its price in a few months time
Clear your back catalogue
Most games die in 2 weeks (see the massive decline on Palworld, Helldivers etc) so anything online will be dead if you wait anything longer than a month
What a fricking stupid thing to say. They won't hit an inconveniently low player number for 10 years minimum
>digital
>pc troony
>online mutliplayer
why is it always so predictable
>pc troony
go watch your sodomy baldur's slop 3
>YOU WORSHIP DA ASS LIKE Black person@!
Your own fault by only consuming garbage. Play single player games.
maybe you should stop buying games that die in 2 weeks then?
you can't seriously believe that the answer to "shit games get even worse too fast" is "we should buy shit games faster"
>be ausgay
>games die anyway
Disregard multiplayer
Embrace singleplayer
>Most games die in 2 weeks
>(see the massive decline on Palworld, Helldivers etc)
This is some quality bait.
You’re replying to a post with “don’t buy slop” with “but I want to buy slop”.
palword and helldivers have massive numbers and will continue to have massive numbers for a long time. things don't become irrelevant once the videos by the king of manlets and tech support indian #203747827 hit page 2
this. also if its a single player game just pirate it.
>usa is the whole world
homie i paid 40€ for zelda tears of the kingdom and super mario bros wonder brand new
This is honestly why I think AAA games have flopped left and right in the last year, and why budget games like Helldivers, Palworld and Lethal Company have had such success. People aren't willing to pay that much for games anymore.
I live in the third world and it costs 90$ here. Wish I lived where you live.
>budget games like Helldivers, Palworld and Lethal Company have had such success
I wonder if AAA devs are ever going to take note of this or if they will just continue pumping out garbage for full price.
You'd think that if they were going to develop shit games they would charge a shit game price for it.
Here's the thing: they can't justify making small games because their development teams are now bloated to include 1000s of people (no, the recent layoffs wasn't enough).
So considering the high number of people working on games and the long development times, they have to put a big pricetag to try and get some profit back.
This shit is unsustainable and only now we are starting to see the cracks.
The simple solution would be to split all the teams into multiple smaller projects, of about 200 developers each. But corporate moves so slow we'll see this change only after multiple studios will go bankrupt.
>development teams are now bloated to include 1000s of people
I wonder how many of these jobs are bullshit non-jobs like HR or consultancy and how many of them are actually writing code or designing graphics.
suits exclusively take the worst possible lesson from everything
Really? I paid nothing to play them on an emulator.
I paid what was then $95USD for Demon's Souls PS5 day 1.
In The Netherlands BOTW was €69,99 day 1. TOTK was €64,99.
can't you just wait couple of weeks for sale? nobody forces you to buy at msrp price
dont fricking care games being 60 or 70 isnt the problem, the n°1 prtoblem is that the games fricking suck id pay 200 bucks for a god tier giga game from heaven people paid 15 bucks a month to play wow back then
wheres the SOVL, where the deep carefully designed gameplay, i just wanna dr34m m4n ....
that's what your AAA slop eating ass deserves, don't forget to buy all the DLC as well
If morons stopped purchasing games at full price then we would see price drops but unfortunately the majority are moron consumers.
I don't buy them unless it's something I really want to play...so only like 1-2 games every 1-4 years.
4 years sounds like a long time, but 2018-2022 was a wasteland of poo for me
why do you not save your money?
People have less disposable income than ever, what do you think they'd rather spend their money on. A shitty game or necessities?
>inb4 don't be a poorgay
forgot everyone earns 7 digits a month on this site
I think people are richer than ye old framers back in the 1800s
So thats a lie.
Old farmers had
>A house
>Animals
>Farming equipment
What does your average student have? A ton of debt atleast.
>we have technolog like cellphones so that means we are richer than people 200 years ago!
This is such a moronic take. Let's just ignore the fact that people who build houses have to live in vans or with multiple roommates to survive. But hey at least we have mass produced pocket computers!
A believe a Van is more comfortable than a old farmers house back in the day.
You've not been in a comfy farm house then
Neither have you dipshit.
Houses today are nowhere the same as they were in the past.
You must be willfully ignorant to think living 200 years ago was any better than living today.
Of course I have, I grew up and live in the boonies. There are many ancient houses here still maintained by the locals. All I'm saying is that you aren't richer than farmers from 1800s if you're a modern student. You can have many quality of life improvements, but their value is very much not a farm's equal.
My favorite is when people say shit like "we have treasures that the kings of old would have longed for and still aren't happy" as though kings.were known for being particularly content in the first place
Thats only white goyim with no family ties, immigrants are richer than ever, indians basically own every house in the UK because they dont hate their family
Pajeets are infection
>people making less wih each year
>life costs more with each year
eventually all this shit will crush
>eventually all this shit will crush
no it won't thats what illegal mass immigration is for they will drive your salary even lower
Watching Americans get what they fricking deserve is what keeps me going. I’m a spiteful creature and I love seeing “my fellow Americans” suffer.
Europe isn't doing too hot either anon. It's pretty fricked tbh. Same for Asia.
>I le hate everyone and le everything, am I le cool yet?
cope mutt
you sold yourself to israelite, now learn what "consequences" are
>The Secret of Monkey Island PC release date: 1992
>1992 $20 accounted for inflation in current day: about $44
hmm
I think the last game I bought was TWWarhammer 3 for like $30 and Ive put in like 400 hours in it. Git gud lmao.
Didn't pay for DOTA2 at all and have over 4k hours in it
For many pay is small and rent is big. Not for me though, shit costs like $450 for 600sqft flat
Yeah but with DOTA you pay with your soul instead.
>Not for me though
I'm happy for you anon
>People have less disposable income than ever
true that's why i the only things i do outside of work is sleep and play old vidya
easy money saved for the rare good new game
I recall the new FF7 reborn to be 80 eurostan rupees here.
Has any 70$ besides COD or Zelda done well. It seems every game that tries to sell itself for that much under preforms or flops. Guess even normies have a balking point
The only ones I can see doing well are DD2 and the new GTA, as well as future game from legacy series.
60 was already bullshit and it even more is in the digital era.
Try 80€ for final fantasy, I tried the demo and it felt like a win, like I actually played probably the best bit for free.
PC version can't come soon enough so I can play the whole thing for free at 60+ fps with cheats.
>cheats
Disgusting
Who cares for single player games? You can turn your character into thomas the tank engine for all i care
>Try 80€ for final fantasy
Which one? You homies don't know how to use the internet
>only $40 postage and who knows if it'll ever arrive (thanks national postal service)
yay
you ok usa troony nobody is talking about your sjw homie country you are not the centre of attention that anon was talking about euro
pay your 100 bucks for slop and stfu you can't suffer in the usa
No one from the US would use the words "postage" or "national post service." They would say "shipping" or "post office/USPS."
Lrn2english esl scum.
frick u
stfu Black person
What about UKgays?
I might have confused him using dollarydoos as the currency. It's just a habit for the US-centric website, am europoor
>90% of Ganker users are not us american
>they still pretend to be american and use dollar and imperial units
I will never understated the logic behind this
Where did you get that number from? I'm getting my feelings of america-centrism from other boards I usually visit, calling me a poor eurostan everytime I use the metric system
>Where did you get that number from?
from Ganker it's the 3rd biggest board on this site and the us generals are one of the slowest on the whole site plus it's full with mexicans and canadians
Isn't international's purpose to be international, e.g furthest from US-only?
so you think video games are not international and full with with indians, brazilians and germans?
you are delusional if you really think that this board is over 20% us american
Americans make up the largest single group on Ganker so everyone just does it for your convenience for obvious reasons.
90% of Ganker users are american
sure but maybe the third world part such as brazil and chile
Yeah we all secretly want to be fat, stupid, and a transsexual.
>it's cheaper to buy games from germany
wtf
fun fact danish and dutch people living near the border flood germany in order to buy groceries
sounds like the hungarian border, lol. When they had that massive price inflation a while back they crossed the border to do groceries in romania
Only alcohol and "super sized groceries", the other shit is expensive enough here, you fun-fact clown
you are not welcome here stay in your shithole homosexual
Nice schizo rambling, looks like /misc/ suits you well, virgin
take your meds troony
Cute rebuttal, you newbie board tourist, too bad you got no other material but "no you". Now shut the frick up kid 🙂
disgusting dutch reddit troony kys already you schizo
There hasn't been a $70 game worth buying since.
i just don't buy them at launch or at all.
If they're charging that much, most of the time it's cause of advertising and the actual game is mediocre at best, with most money going into marketing and other bullshit.
>how do you justify this?
I don't. I bought Palworld and Helldivers 2 instead. I ain't paying 70 for Sucide Squad or Skull & Bones. AAAA slop is garbage these days.
I'm never fricking paying $70 for a game. $60 is already a lot, $70 is fricking outrageous.
>groceries and other essentials more than quintuple in price in the last 20 years
>*yawn*
>video games go up 16% in price in the last 20 years
>"Fricking highway robbery! REEE!!"
That's the point. People are getting bled dry from everything increasing in price.
How normies are able to tolerate being a wageslave under these conditions is beyond me.
Don't forget the season passes, monthly charges for online access, various microtransactions, $40+ DLCs and whatever else they might have.
Yeah, the powers that be forgot that in order for bread and circuses to be effective in pacifying the masses, they need to have prices that the masses are actually able to afford. These days a lot of people have to choose one or the other, and it's causing a lot of resentment.
Capitalism.
You morons keep defending it, of course its going to take more, thats the nature of capitalism. Its evil
>keep voting and pushing foe socialism.
>wonder why shit keeps getting worse.
new games can cost $100 for all i care
i will still only buy games on sale for $20 or less
By not caring, not like I was buying shit at $60 when it came out idk why that changes for when it’s $70
>Not waiting for games to go down and go on sale for less than $10
Lmao. Simply Lmao.
Did they think covid bucks would last forever when bumping prices?
buy physical and they are not 70 or 60 anymore, its actually that simple
physicalchads stay winning
Inflation. Games have been $60 since the 90s. By staying the same price they have been steadily been getting cheaper over the years.
>$60
>expensive
Are you underaged? Do you earn minimum wage?
You can eat for over a week for $50, of course it's a lot
It is honestly depressing how poor you are.
Having more money doesen't make food cost any more though? Potato still $0,10 a pound
Haven't paid for a video game in 15 years. Everything worth playing can be emulated/pirated.
I haven't even played a video game in 15 years
Ganker in a nutshell
>Ganker crying about muh heckin $70 games
>meanwhile I paid $180 for a game I can't even play
n64 snes games were more expensive
Don't buy them, I sure as shit don't. I don't remember the last time I ever paid full price for a AAA game, even at launch
I only play atleast AAAAA games
I pirate anything if it's possible. Beyond that I'll use a key site/wait for a sale
I always buy on sale, just got Skyrim Special Edition for 10 bucks
It doesn't matter to me. I'll still just buy them at $5.
I have never paid more than 10 bucks for a game
it's called bidenomics
>Numerous high profile games have dropped at sub-$60 launch prices
>Plentiful success stories
>Numerous AAA games have dropped at $70 launch prices
>Seemingly none of them have even broken even, many of them have been utter disasters for the companies associated, Skull and Bones apparently launched to a roaring fanfare of less than 1 million players (including Free Trial players) and is set to never break even on its decade-long $200 Million production costs
This, combined with the Sweet Baby witch hunt, has convinced me that gaming as was previously understood is on its way to the coffin, and a new era is beginning. The only places where these incomprehensibly shitty practices seem to thrive are in EA and Actiblizz titles, where their lobotomized fans will effectively support anything and everything they do.
I don't justify, i pirate it
I can't name a AAA game I'd gave played on release if it was free in the past 5 years or so.
No game should cost more than $30.
mcDonalds employees make $20/hr get your life sorted out
wow a whopping $1000 every 2 weeks to pay for my $2000 a month in expenses
>$1000 every 2 weeks
thats what you get in germany in one month, you can't suffer in the usa
The only inflation you know is the furry porn that rotted your brain
No they don't.
Big cities do but anon conveniently forgot to mention that a big mac also is also costing up to $20 in those places
Maybe in Commiefornia where a Big Mac is $14. It seems you’re either stuck making shit wages but having time for hobbies. Or earning high wages but having to work 50-60 hours a week to do so.
>waaaaaaah game expensive
>Doesn't pirate instead
Just pray that a tripBlack person delivers. Reloadgays got lucky that an Aigisgay fired off dozens of keys everytime the tripcode homosexual offered it.
Minimum wage in NY was $8 a decade ago. Now it is almost double. So getting a game now should take about half the time despite the $10 increase.
Now google how much the living cost increased
Another reason NOT to complain. Give up three Big Macs and you can get a game instead.
Living costs going up means everything goes up, smartass
Groceries, water, rent/housing
Yes, complaining about $10 for games is stupid especially since the quality of games has increased drastically since when they were $60 on SNES. The quality of water, Big Macs and quality of life near apartments decreased.
I only pay for indies but lately I'm starting to regret some of those
>>now they're fricking 70
>what is inflation
C-Canada-kun?!?
You don't buy them. There is no justification for it. Not even inflation.
That's the only way to make it clear. Stop paying for overpriced AAA slop. There's MAYBE one AAA game worth playing every year, and you'll hear by word of mouth if it is actually good.
Studios b***h and moan about costs of development but none of them want to ever talk about economies of scale, where there are hundreds of millions more people playing games of every genre than ever before, so the market they tap into is so much more massive than in the past 10-20 years, so even if they are making 5 less dollars per sale, they are making 10 times the sales so it doesn't fricking matter.
Games can charge 20-30 bucks with little to no monetization and still make money hand over fist. They are only charging more because they are greedy frickers trying to appease shareholders, thats all there is to it.
>how do you justify this?
I wait for them to lower to the price of a sandwich
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>how do you justify this
I only buy good games or wait til they’re 20/30 dollars.
I’m far more bothered by the rising cost of food. A good $70 game could last me 100+hrs before I get bored, meanwhile my $50 grocery bill has grown to $80 and I’m actually getting less in many instances.
You can’t. Problem is nerds are famously financially illiterate so they’ll always line up to be first to play the latest slop because FOMO. It’s hard to convince people, especially Americans, if they don’t buy the product the price will go down. Supply and demand.
I can't considering games are generally worse now.
I have plenty of money and there has still been only a single game released since publishers started this nonsense where I was actually willing to spend $70.
I buy maybe 3 games a year
99% of the slops released these days is not even worth playing
Justify? Pay up goy.
Inflation (of everything except my salary)
With the current state of games... it's pretty expensive. If the games were actually good, no one should have a problem even paying $100. But most games at the highest price range are just fricking shit.
Don't buy western AAA day 1. Wait like 2 months and it'll be half off.
Also don't buy 5 hour pieces of shit.
I buy games from 3rd party key sites before they're released and get a huge discount.
>Inflation
>Studios constantly using and developing new tech to use (it costs a frickton just in equipment to simulate light particles).
>Devs (programmers, animators, artists, musicians, voice actors, and other staff in general such as marketing, accounting, heads of staff, etc) asking for more money thanks to inflation and decent working conditions (sometimes a raise too, if they think they are doing a good job).
>Most of AAA marketing teams not being able to adapt to current trends without looking like morons or oldfarts, so they end up with the most expensive and unnecessarie method as possible.
>Have to convince investord that their funds re safe, so you require even more money to just store away so you can pay back their investment in case they become morons and want their money back before it is even invested.
>Have to also have enough money for maintainece and repairs, and other costs.
>There are also other costs in oegal fees, and using intelectual properties, so now you have to hire lawyers as well.
>Shit somehow ends up costing millions already because you need a lot of people.
>Make the shitty cross graph to determinate sales and costs after making a speculation on how our market looks like (manchilds), end up with that amount
>Do not take into account how much fun can players actually have, because these homosexuals only care about how does the game look.
Its simply not profitable anymore.
The AAA market its crashing because all of this and more.
Its simply more profitable now to make indies using outdated tech, less resources, less personal, less budget, all while you focus on your idea with trial and error until it works, and you focus on your target market (still manchilds, but with ceartain acquired tastes), and then work and change from there.
After that its just a matter of enough people liking your game and publicity for becoming best seller of the month and get enough revenue to just do your own thing until popularity dies down.
>it costs a frickton just in equipment to simulate light particles
If you're referring to raytracing (or more generally BVH-acceleration), it's actually a huge timesaver from development standpoint once you don't need to put time also doing it the old way. Material-based lighting is super easy compared to all the tricks you need to pull off normally.
>from development standpoint
That's why every "AAA" needs a +5k computer
Sure, but an SW developer's salary starts at 5K too, it's not a big investment for a company to write off.
It is not, until you take into account that in a major project deemed to be a AAA game you might need between 50 to 200 of these units, with working spare parts available for small fixes if things broke down (or at least the funding for those parts).
The accounting will have to take into account the cost of all units, take into account how long does it take for each part to brake down and its cost.
This eventually goes into the graph to calculate costs, which will definetly impact on the price of the game.
They might be able to cost it at the start of the project, but if you do not have emergency funds or start to charge customers with preorder shits and bonuses, you are definetly going to start to run into some problems on the work place as things start to degrade between months and years.
They do not develop everything on a single PC, they use a ton frick of them, and depending on whatever they are doing shit might be breaking down all the time.
codeBlack folk refuse to work in wagie cucksheds so you can force them to use their own pcs if they want their wfh
the single largest contributor to cost ballooning is budget tallying in the millions, and the easiest way to pop that bubble is to hang all marketers. They single-handedly cost their respective team more than the those actually making the game.
Ad space and celebrity shilling isn't cheap, and the best way to sell units to normalgays is to advertise to them. And the sad reality is that the ROI on dumping millions of dollars into ad campaigns have been shown to work, price increases are just a byproduct of hang-wringing to maximize that payoff vs those who drop out due to being harder to manipulate.
Games are no longer made to be fun (although developers may still aspire to create something enjoyable), they're cynically made to be sold by the publishers that only care about big number.
>one man indieprojects can essentially set themselves up for life if they get everything right
>the only costs they end up accounting for is their own and whatever the publishers want in regards to their cuts
The next funding model is being prototyped now with Stormgate and was initially pioneered with Scam Citizen. You will use the fanaticism of cultivated consumers from the last 30 years to set the bedrock with free advertising and starting capital. While you receive top ups from private equity firms and whatever Uncle Fink is working next. Your loyalty program for the starting cultists will not be payed out in dollars but in Discord badges, socially approved titles and livestreams with the developers. Your mere presence to the unwavering faithful is reward enough. Filling in the spiritual void that modern society hasn't been able to fill with cheap goods and broken promises.
>expansion pack that includes a new campaign, new maps, new faction, new heroes, new dwellings to map, etc.
>all fan made and completely free
>meanwhile modern games cost $100 dollars for an expansion
Why do people pay for modern games again?
I'm still paying 0 dollars
You don't. Keep consuming, addict.
I haven't bought a single video game since that period where I was struggling not to be homeless.
by pirating
>>$60 games were already expensive
You should be thankful, it has been 60 for more than a decade. Increasing the price to fit current inflation isn't awful when you were reaping it for absolute nothing
Good consumer.
piracy
just pirate everything and support cool cheap stuff like palwolrd and helldivers 2
>palwolrd and helldivers 2
Why would I support garbage like that?
I play on Switch, only one game was 70. I don't have to bother with that.
Whatever it takes to resist capitalism I'll pay any price
i always enjoy that you can immediately tell who the trannies are
Gotta pay for that ~~*marketing*~~
>60 is expensive
I met people who spend 80 in beer and drugs every Friday, but spending 60 in a videogame every six months is impossible for the average people?
>i met pampered morons who don't have to value their money why those filthy goyim don't behave the same and just consoom?
I own over 100 games and the most expensive one was Elden Ring at $35, that was painful
the last time I bought a game full price was DMCV, nothing good's come out since
They know I'm only ever going to pirate, rent from the library, or buy games pre-owned, so they need the sort of idiots who buy games at full price to pitch in a bit more than they used too.
Lol I'm selling my old gamecube games for 70-100 bucks, don't know why people pay so much. Heck I sold a pokemon game for 150.
People pay either way.
>imagine paying for digital copies of games that you don't truly own and you can't resell them if you don't want them anymore.
>how do you justify this?
>game-sharing and splitting the cost
>buying used games months after launch at a discount
>pirating
pretty fricking easy to justify tbqh
Bidens economy