Now that D&D has iconics to represent the different classes, how many pictures of the fat elf rogue will we see in books?
Also the cleric having a transactional relationship with "every god" seems like the biggest copout possible.
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>Also the cleric having a transactional relationship with "every god" seems like the biggest copout possible
That sounds more like a warlock
You would think so
>Designed by the Dungeons & Dragons team, these five adventurers and their monstrous mascot honor the game’s founding classes while putting a contemporary spin on fantasy archetypes. They’re the perfect party for newcomers looking to explore the Dungeons & Dragons universe and for fans seeking new escapades in a beloved setting.
>Tessalynde is an ambitious young rogue who dreams of leading Faerûn’s foremost adventuring party. While the crew she’s gathered isn’t the stuff of legend yet, she’s confident her guidance can get them there.
>The team: Anson, a fighter too stubborn to stay down, even when the odds are stacked against him. Cazrin, a self-taught wizard determined to test her theoretical mettle against the real world. Baldric, a cleric who refuses to tie himself to a single deity when he can trade favors with them all. Lark, a bard with as many secrets as songs. And, of course, Uggie, a monstrous pet otyugh who loves giving hugs and eating trash.
They said these characters are planned to be used for exploring legendary Forgotten Realms characters and places, so presumably we'll be seeing a lot of modules with them.
Lol
>And, of course, Uggie, a monstrous pet otyugh who loves giving hugs and eating trash.
So why hasn't he eaten the party yet? It's clear he's the most competent member of their crew
Well they called him the mascot in the first sentence, so presumably they're going fully off of the anime trope of him being a near useless member of his species except for the one or two times where he's useful.
>so presumably they're going fully off of the anime trope of it being an all-powerful creator god or at least an interstellar battleship that rapes physics by simply being cute eating carrots somewhere.
Fixed.
I mean how many warlocks are upfront about their pacts? Could still be a secret celestial warlock
>these five adventurers and their monstrous mascot honor the game’s founding classes
That's complete rubbish. The game's founding classes were three: Fighting-man, Magic-User, Cleric.
If you go with Basic it's six, there should be no bard and they're missing the Dwarf, the Halfling and the Elf. That the fat one is apparently an Elf doesn't honour the Elf class any more than the short one might be a Dwarf, and there's still no Halfling.
How long before the art department stats making the fat one look more slim and athletic?
>six
*it's seven, but that just makes that advertising spin more bad.
>Baldric, a cleric who refuses to tie himself to a single deity when he can trade favors with them all.
I can't precisely describe why but this really bothers me
Because the terminology implies that they need him more than he needs them and that divine powers are just something you pick up at the Walmart instead of developing through devotion and living in a godly way.
It would be like someone saying "I asked Jesus for forgiveness so I get heaven because that's what someone's sign said" without ever trying to live a good life or live by His teachings.
I haven't been in a church in over a decade and even I recognize the problem there.
Because a cleric isn't meant to be in a transactional relationship with a God, but blessed by them for their faith. Even in a polytheistic pantheon where you're expected to worship more than one deity at a time (for example I'm off to war so I go to the shrine of Aries, but I'm going in a boat so I'm definitely also sacrificing to Posiedon so He doesn't kill me first) you're not "trading favours" with them you're supplicating yourself to them. Its really more of a Sorcerer relationship than that of a Cleric
Do you have faith in dogs and rocks? If gods are real, then they're just dogs and rocks, then submission is all they can demand of you, like how you'd go to your knees when a rock caves in your skull, but not faith.
In roman-like religions you're quite literally trading favours with the Gods.
It really depends on the setting unironically. Mystaran "gods" for example, only need mortals to be aware that they exist. Establishing religions and tossing small amounts of power to clerics is the most robust way to do that, but just being in a history book that some mortals who are currently alive have read is fine too (But risky, since those mortals could die without anyone else reading the book). "Spread word that I exist" is literally the most useful thing a cleric can do for a god in that setting. Someone who does some research and finds out about some old dormant gods that have slipped into obscurity could easily get power in exchange for that, because the alternative for the god is to go dormant again when this one mortal dies.
So everyone can gestalt into cleric? If you literally don't need any commitment and just passerby interest, nice. Just adding lots of spells and features to my current 8th level barbarian
>Baldric, a cleric who refuses to tie himself to a single deity when he can trade favors with them all.
This would be a great character concept if he was a priest by profession only and had no levels of cleric whatsoever. Instead it just sounds like your average, WoTC-standard "denounce and belittle the past" attitude
>Now that D&D has iconics to represent the different classes
>Now
Black person, that's a thing since ADD, before you were even born
Also
>giving a single flying frick about pictures in game of pretend
>Michael Jackson Tiefling
It just fits.
Its a novel, anon. A NOVEL.
>Licensed by Wizards of the Coast, The Fallbacks: Bound for Ruin introduces a new Dungeons & Dragons adventuring party, The Fallbacks, whose encounters with classic Forgotten Realms locations, villains, and monsters will be chronicled across multiple publishing initiatives. Someday, The Fallbacks might be Faerûn’s finest adventuring party. Right now, they’re the backup plan.
They're a novel for now, but they were designed by the marketing team for "multiple publishing initiatives"
They're going to be the premades in modules and in other locations as well.
Sounds like the marketing department can't figure out how to advertise D&D to anyone so got frustrated and demanded some characters that they can try and turn into marketable personalities for consoomers to latch onto.
You think people these days read books?
Surely they could have stolen from the movie if they wanted that.
They had a good variety of classes, could have thrown in something of a different race, and people already have a touch stone for them.
That would have made sense, but the movie wasn't the billion dollar franchise-launching success they expected it to be, so marketing doesn't want to use them for anything.
How does an elf get fat in the first place. This reeks of someone's fetish or self-insert.
Especially in the Forgotten Realms where Greenwood has on record said Elves don't get fat.
Especially as the rogue, one of the few classes you would think could never be fat to do half of their fricking job.
Honestly I can't wait until this fat acceptance thing finally dies.
By consuming more calories than it expends, the same as any other animal.
She eats the sound she makes.
>cleric having a transactional relationship with "every god"
Wut?
>Also the cleric having a transactional relationship with "every god" seems like the biggest copout possible
That's how ancient polytheistic religions worked. Do ut des. You could be a sacred prostitute of Asherah and if a Roman travelled back in time and explained to you his crops grow plentiful when he offers oxen to Ceres and Proserpina, you fricking started offering oxen to Ceres and Proserpina.
Okay, but that doesn't seem to be how the gods of D&D behave in any of the established settings.
not a single one of those characters looks inspiring.
Looks like shit, micheal jackson tiefling bard gets a pass though because it's funny, Black persondwarf is too tame, i would even given him a pass if was moronly overt like the bard. Chingchong elon musk fighting man is slightly better, brown/tanned halfelf chick magic user is completely forgettable. The chubby body positivity elf chick in the middle is absolutely, laugh inducing, moronic.
>Chingchong elon musk fighting man
Elon Musk would play an evil bard who's trying to become a dragon so that he can impregnate everything.
>that pic
What a fricking freakshow. Literal mental moronation.
Why does that half elf motherfricker look like Elon Musk?
Musk probably paid the artist off.
why are there two mom-body characters in there?
I've never played 5e. Is that the audience? If so, you have my interest... MILFs
I will make it my mission to play that rogue and act like a fat clumsy karen, blaming the patriarchy & internalized fatphobia every time she fricks up.
>Rolls a dud to pick locks.
"Fricking undersized lockpicks! Betcha they were designed with /elvish/ fingers in mind, and not a /real/ woman's. It's all a conspiracy, you know, to force us to conform to patriarchal beauty standards!"
When the get Evasion, describe it as your character falling over and rolling out of the way of the attack. Not in a dark souls dodgeroll sort of way, but they are just naturally round enough that they roll like a wheel of cheese. They only pretend that was intentional after the fact to save face.
Go back to your containment thread, troony
You do know that in ancient cultures with a pantheon you DID pray to every god as the situation called for it, right? It didn't matter if your favorite god was Apollo, you made your sacrifice to Poseidon before you set out to sea like everyone else. Because worshiping Apollo didn't mean Poseidon wasn't going to frick you in the ass for slighting him. You invoke Hera's name during your wedding, and whispered a prayer to Hades at a funeral, etc etc.
A cleric that deals with many gods isn't a bad idea, it just should obviously come with limitations. The good news is that you can get spells from a wide variety of domains as you need them, but you'll never get the *best* spells, the highest level magic, because the gods are not going to shell out the good shit for a guy who pays in cash under the table. That stuff is for people on payroll with proven loyalty.
> the cleric having a transactional relationship with "every god"
that's called a warlock
> his cleric never prays to his patron god, makes sacrifices, or does divinely ordained missions
> the god just gives him his powers 'for free' and never expects anything in return
Lame and boring
I want to know the weight of the woman who designed that Rogue
>Fat frick being sneaky
What you want skinny attractive women white man, frick you!
Fatties can't be rogues
They can but only if they are ugly bastards
I'll accept that, because it's funny
To be fair, Mirt was from back when Thief and Thief acrobat were two different things.
He's just a fat moneylender who was a mercenary but got thief levels to explain his acquiring new skills despite no longer fighting.
Then why the frick were you allowed to make one, tubby.
>5e has twisted players minds so much they can't imagine a rogue with flat DEX and ranks in lockpick or disguise, decipher script gather information and listen or otherwise
Furthermore that's exactly how I know she won't be any of those things and will instead be an action hero who sometimes hides well
>will instead be an action hero who sometimes hides well
Wow, how were you able to deduce that one, Sherlock. Maybe the little clue that it is fricking Dungeons & Dragons and that is all anyone has been for the last 2 editions.
Uh wrong they actually don't hide at all because stealth is not RAW
They are not iconics. They are just slop for young liberal readers to slurp up that will be forgotten in a week.
Smooth Criminal and White Male Fighter are the only two with any hope to be based, here's hoping fat elf and the pet aren't too annoying in this YA novel for brats.
WotC now copying Paizo's notes like it is the day before the exam.
>homosexual Michael Jackson looking tiefling bard in fedora
>Elon musk looking dude who is probably a dyke
>fat elf in modern day button shirt you could buy at WalMart who has a cat mask in mockery of based Darkwolf
>Indian magic user
>dindu dwarf with giant mace staff
The pet otyugh is cute but fricking moronic. This shit is literally just "here's some monster made cute so we can give brand identity" fricking soulless slop. A pet otyugh could've been cute if Salvatore did it but that's because he wasn't a complete shill. This is talentless corporate trash. This is what you homosexuals get for not gatekeeping in 2014 when you had the chance.
TN white male fighter is actually a not chris pine expy imo. They should take some notes from anime or something that actually makes money and have the mascot character just be part of the main squad like Tony Tony Chopper from One Piece, they don't need a nonsensical monster when a gay kobold or a wiry tabaxi kid or something would be much easier to sell
The best iconics were the late 4e/early 5e ones that had that kick ass comic book. It was the only decent thing 5e ever produced.
They Don't Care About Us and ambiguously Van Darkholme with his circumcised hyper weapon may stay. Everyone else should go touch the Sphere of Annihilation.