>750k players bought it on release. >That number has dropped by nearly 40% in two months

>750k players bought it on release
>That number has dropped by nearly 40% in two months
>Blizzard is currently on their FIFTH "please buy dragonflight with this bonus" promotion already
>Youtube and twitch grifters already realising theres no views in talking about the content and going back to "why WoW is dead, for real?!?" dramaclicks
>Every WoW focussed websites traffic is the lowest its ever been
>raid and M+ participation is plummeting
>shuts down entirely in china in 10 days

So Shadowlands was the actual WoW killer all along huh?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah it turns out when you arrogantly ignore your playerbase and double down on everything they've hated from the last several expansions it pisses them off and makes them not want to play your game. who knew!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the problem is they're listening to people on the forums that actually enjoy M+
      every time someone asks the director why they keep doubling down on cancer he just says "the feedback we've received says players enjoy it"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        idk the forums have plenty of people who hate the m+ focus, ion is just a liar. same deal with flying, overwhelming negative response to removing it and pathfinder etc but they refuse to listen to players because they're arrogant.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >pathfinder
          people hated this shit when it was introduced in wod, now they want it back?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. For 3 expanaions straight they have said they were listening but they werent. While I like Ion as a person he is responsible for making WoW so shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they are listening
        they're listening to addicts who haven't enjoyed the game since MoP

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is probably the main reason why the game is in the state that it's in. Top that off with developer arrogance and bias towards developing certain types of content.

          >Vanilla WoW launches
          >majority of content is leveling, interacting with people out in the world, doing dungeons
          >raiding end game was something only a niche of the population did, and even then it wasn't that difficult to do
          >developers that worked on WoW after launch were pulled from Everquest poopsocking guilds and thus they wanted more instanced raiding content in the game, going against the philosophy that was established in early vanilla
          >start directing the game towards raiding content-only, by TBC the patches for WoW are purely raid-centric. "Major patch = new raid" is established.
          >from developer arrogance (from being the #1 online game for several years in a row) gives developers the idea they can do-no-wrong. Ignore the casual and roleplaying audience (which the game was designed for), listen only to top raiding guilds for feedback
          >each following expansion is more and more about piping people towards raiding, casuals are complaining that there isn't any content outside of raiding. The solution? Get them to raid
          >blizzard spends a great deal of effort to polish the pipeline of gearing to funnel people towards raiding, it doesn't work
          >literally trying to guide the horse to water and make them drink it
          >put in timegated systems to obscure the fact the game is dead and doesn't have any content because they were hyper-focused on making raiding content
          >continue to only listen to top raiding guilds about how to make the game better, ignore the majority
          I'm not against raiding, it's a great activity, but when the game starts to cater heavily towards it and neglect the rest of the game it's a bad thing. Blizzard doesn't understand how to interpret their own data and have no understanding of what survivorship bias.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they try to make different kinds of content all the time but nobody likes it, i'm glad they stopped with the solo instance bullshit, that was celestalon AIDS and he got moved to hearthstone luckily

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There was never going to be any other outcome other than raiding. How else do you expect to keep people playing?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They still do the same shit they make a new raid for people like max instead of releasing a complete balanced product for everyone.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They listen but they only care about opinions of streamers, world first parse groomers and paypigs who are actively subbed. You could have 30k hours in game, play every single expansion every single day and have more experience and knowledge than wow devs - the moment your game time runs out you can't even post on their forums. I think blizzard gave up on trying to retrieve their playerbase, that's why modern wow is omega pozzed and they decided to release classic for addicts they couldn't bring back

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they've done a good job fixing leveling for new players, what's sad is they should've done that back in cata

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I haven't played since bfa but how is leveling experience good? You skip 90% of content, if you don't know about Chromie and time walking as a new player you will probably finish to do the new introduction zone and get thrown straight into bfa, where you finish few zones and get to current xpac, all while being confused why to fuck everyone keeps calling you champion of Azeroth when you were a lvl 1 scrub surviving a shipwreck 12 hours ago. They should force players to complete entire wow story and make leveling meaningful again while rewarding players who have the patience to do so with some of the old mounts and xmogs. But that's the issue with modern wow community, this change would literally kill the game as most trannies just want to parse using queues and pugs. People apparent don't even raid with guilds anymore as those hit lowest numbers ever

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            wow didn't get a story until mop when they were trying to compete with swtor

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wrong, it always had a story and became a story driven game with wotlk.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's not told in a linear way that you can force players through like

                I haven't played since bfa but how is leveling experience good? You skip 90% of content, if you don't know about Chromie and time walking as a new player you will probably finish to do the new introduction zone and get thrown straight into bfa, where you finish few zones and get to current xpac, all while being confused why to fuck everyone keeps calling you champion of Azeroth when you were a lvl 1 scrub surviving a shipwreck 12 hours ago. They should force players to complete entire wow story and make leveling meaningful again while rewarding players who have the patience to do so with some of the old mounts and xmogs. But that's the issue with modern wow community, this change would literally kill the game as most trannies just want to parse using queues and pugs. People apparent don't even raid with guilds anymore as those hit lowest numbers ever

                wants

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Current wow has the worst new player experience in all of video games.
          >Start as a new player
          >World outside of the current patch content is completely dead and abandoned. You will feel like you are playing a single player mmo if you choose to do open world questing.
          >Because devs want you to rush to the max level nothing in the world makes sense and feels like you're missing 90% of context.
          >everyone expects you to fully understand your class and instances even in leveling dungeons. Get flamed or kicked on first wipe.
          >Finally hit max level
          >PvP is doomed and doesn't offer any meaningful progression unless you have thousands of hours of experience and understand every class in the game which isn't explained to you anywhere in the actual in game client, death recap or anything similar. You either study it like some fucking art of war or you play long enough to try every class at max level.
          >PvE is even worse, your worth in m+ is tied to a number, same expectations and toxicity except now you also have to get ilvl and m+ rating higher than what you actually have to get invited to any pug that offers progression.
          >guilds are dying out, with the lowest number of players killing at least one boss on normal diff in history of WoW.
          >gl pugging without AOTC
          >Your spec or class suck? Better reroll!
          >Also I hope you didn't pick alliance because you happened to like the look of a specific race, because end game WoW is a monofaction game where you play horde to do content.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nah buddy, going woke was the WoW killer, that and nothing else. Dragonflight is a LGBT propaganda platform, woke shit started HEAVILY in 9.1.5 when they censored and pozzed up the game, it's been a freefall since then. Another classic case of go woke go broke. I weep for the most epic fantasy universe ever created being reduced to this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The gameplay was already on the floor on fire. The 9.1.5 patch was just the modern devs pissing on the corpse trying to put the fire out. It's dead, let go.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      people put up with all kinds of woke shit in other games, no one would care other than lorefags if the gameplay was still good, the game is just trash now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its not only the copious amount of propaganda, the writing is the worst i have seen in a while. Today I did the renown 12 questline for the valdraken accord, they literally introduce the shitiest mcguffin ever (a solid silver dragonscale) and trough a horrible, poorly written questline you experience the last meeting of watcher Tyr and his beloved dragon aspects.

      Think about this, these fucking retards made this scene under the pretense that this is the last goodbye between this very important characters.......... they talk mostly about the mcguffin the writer introduced 10 minutes ago.

      Just straight unfiltered shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i have a feeling tyr is going to be the big bad, they're doing the exact same storyline SL had with the Primus, who everyone thought was going to turn out to be the jailer, and when he wasn't and there was no twist blizzard got shit on a lot

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >XIVtrannies can't stop making wowhate generals

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon are these "XIVtrannies" in your room with you right now?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They were openly admitting to being in the last thread that just died.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          oh god. they have infiltrated all levels of society, they could be in the house right now...

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    evoker is shit, should've just done tinker, also weird chud shit doesn't sell

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, everyone was hyped when they believed one of the leaks basically making it where the new race is ANY of the old races with dragon features and alexstraza racial bikini armor but it ended up being gay twink dragons that look retarded instead.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        evoker is shit, should've just done tinker, also weird chud shit doesn't sell

        Evokers look like drag queens, probably on purpose.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you know the diversity hires pretended to cheer about it #transgirlsgetitdone!

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WoWbros... this was not our destiny...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        WoW is a shadow of its former shadow.
        Final Fantasy XIV is chud central.
        OSRS is the non-chud autist's choice.
        Come home autistic man.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >thinking wow boomers care about twitch numbers

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hey retard, you might want to look back at all the wowgag threads during the month after Dragonflight launch about MUH TWITCH VIEWERSHIP

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >half a dozen Gankerincels represent an entire player base
          And you dare call ME a retard? LMAO

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NEXT TIME ON DRAGONFLIGHT LGTV: "OMG OMG SOOP, I CAN MAKE SOOP, AND IT IS EVERYTHING!

    This game is like pure distilled californium.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    being a wowchud in 2023 is a mental illness

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FF content creators log in and play FF. WoW content creators ignore WoW and create clickbait react videos.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nooooo d00d, dragonflights LEGIT, its lit, lits litty on a stack, on god frfr no cap. Its just the wasp andies making me weird and not stream the game.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd like to know where you're getting these numbers from

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    First expansion I didn't buy, gay dragons just don't appeal to me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are you gay, furry and trans though???

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >people thought it couldn't get worse than vulpera
    >it immediately gets much worse than vulpera

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i got aotc today!!!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and nobody in the billions of people that exist right now will ever give a single fuck.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wanted
    >world revamp
    >more customization
    >player housing
    >evergreen content
    >HOTS model Alexstraza

    got
    >furry enabling
    >shitty GW2 rip off mount system
    >chud astroturfing of dragon lore
    >blood elf model Alexstraza
    >no content

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      but i don't want any of that shit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mmos arent for you, then.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >world revamp
        when are revamps ever a good idea
        >more customization
        what does this even mean, cosmetics?
        >player housing
        not happening, the game is in maintenance mode
        >evergreen content
        cancer
        >HOTS model Alexstraza
        alexstraza will always be feminist cancer, "queen of the dragons" but where's the king? more matriarchal trash.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >player housing
      kys lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you first

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Player housing
      Sorry anon, but this is LITERALLY impossible because of how fucked up the spaghetti code of Blizz is. The best they could do was Garrisons because they can't exactly get it to work in such a way that you can place items on your own, just pre-determined locations.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pretty weird since private servers were able to make it work
        see Epsilon

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The lore was getting REAL shaky with Legion, then they turned the most important old god into a literal fart in the wind in BfA, then Shadowlands actively just murdered whatever was left over and the final raid beat the corpse with a stick.

    tbh the gameplay felt as good as ever in shadowlands apart from some obvious standout trinket issues and the mandatory mods that Blizzard seems totally cool with. But I just can't stand the game and the team behind it any more with how butchered the lore was. I got into WoW because of the lore carry-over from WC3, and they just fucking killed it. Unforgivable. I cancelled my subscription the day the Anduin boss end trailer leaked.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My will to play disappeared immediately after clearing the raid on normal.
    And honestly, it's mainly due to people being retarded. How do you mess up such a simple fight like Raz? People didn't run out with the circles, stood in beams, ignored the small adds and just hit the big one, stacked on the tank for the beam etc. It's SO FUCKING SIMPLE, yet despite having a million addons telling you what to do and automatically marking where you should go they still fucked it up.
    I don't want to play with these people.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wow died with phasing and cross server anything.

    The server should have remained absolute. You never see a player not on your server. Fucking this up was truly what killed WoW. They could come back from most of their mistakes. Even gay pandas can be overcome. But killing the entire purpose of your game and destroying the feeling of a WORLD of warcraft. That shit is a critical failure.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >gameplay that people loved has been fucked with and largely ruined, the deliberate play of the past has given way to mindless button mashing
    >the world has gone from a living thing that was exciting to explore and the focus of the game to just fucking set dressing in the background
    >quests aren't about learning about the world and it's story outside of the player's perspective and is now all about the player proving he's the chosen one and the most important character ever via basically singleplayer content in a multiplayer world
    >exploration is dead and there's nobody to encounter but chinese gold farm bots in the world
    >dungeons used to be a special occasion adventure that you and a party would have to coordinate and plan for and do your best to overcome for rare rewards that could give you a great advantage for your time out in the world questing or pvping, now they're wow's matchmaking mode for exp farming since reading quest text is too boring or difficult apparently
    >lore from the original warcraft series being absolutely dumpstered on with shit-tier fanfiction writing that asspulls characters and contrives events left and right, with writers spending more time on twitter arguing with critics about their mary sue waifu than getting anything done
    >blizzard is consistently showing amazing levels of incompetence and bad management with every decision to prioritize superficial bullshit to make them look better over any material improvement in their game
    >constant arrogance
    >constant greed
    >constant disrespect for core fanbase
    >constant catering to vocal minorities over visible majority
    >WHY IS WOW DYING?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No its clearly the alt right chudlets that are making WoW die a slow, cringey death. Its the antagonistic players.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      catering to vocal minorities
      That's exactly how the game got to the point, anon. Arrogant devs listening to even-more ignorant vocal fans on their echo chamber forum.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why am I seeing the same WoW thread throwing out fake numbers being spammed daily on Ganker? Every one of these threads are the same copypasted post. The moment the thread dies, the schizo makes a new one

    I hate WoW and I believe it lead to the downfall of gaming but is it really just one autistic FFXIV schizo making the same thread? Ive never seen someone so mindbroken over a game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Whether it's being spammed by the same autist or not it does seem like WoW is losing a lot of players. It'll probably keep getting expansions as long as there's enough playing though, like Everquest did.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean true but theres a lot of dogshit games that die too and yet nobody on Ganker obsessively spams about it daily

        I just asked if maybe it was a FFXIV schizo. Why so defensive about FFXIV eh?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Doubt its an FFXIV player, since those would just laugh and move on. I personally think its a disgruntled ex-WoW player that can't let go.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Take meds, not everything is fucking conspiracy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes its always final fantasy players out to attack our game. we are victims of harassment!

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    6.3 flopped.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Negative thread about WoW
    >say something negative out of the blue about FFXIV
    >get a bunch if defenders in the replies
    >BUT THE FFXIV FAGS ARE NOT MAKING THE THREADS
    Kek its so obvious this is the flamwar thread and the FFXIVfags are too stupid to not respond to bait

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >No major feature except dragonflying, fun at first then fucking annoying thanks to Vigor resource
    >All zones just derivatives of zones from old expacs
    >Dragons everywhere as friends/foes feels weird
    >Established heroes shelved
    >No real threat
    >Tries to convince players a reused rare model is a big deal
    >Crafting revamp a clusterfuck
    It's a case of trying to turn the ship too fast and completely going off course

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >750k players bought it on release
    Source???

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They really put this bro in a wheelchair

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        arent dragons magic n shit? id imagine in a world with resurrection magic fixing some legs would be easy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if its legs are disabled, ok, but it has wings, it could ostensibly float or fly around everywhere. Why need the wheel chair?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        arent dragons magic n shit? id imagine in a world with resurrection magic fixing some legs would be easy

        bro its like they put it in as a fetish or something, its so fucking weird and makes no sense

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Dracthyr as a whole is a fetish race

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        because if you think about how wings work, if they wanted to "stand" somewhere they would constantly be flapping their huge wings and blowing shit around them. but them being disabled makes no sense because they can shapeshift and have healing magic dragons.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Euphrosyne was garbage and Endwalker has the worst job design of ANY MMO.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Red Mage is Shaman if Blizzard didn't regret adding the class.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Talk about wow in the wow thread, chuds

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shadowlands finally killed WoW so we can finally get other MMOs, maybe League MMO, to offer something more OR Microsoft wakes the shit out of Blizz and decides to make a brand new WoW 2 with better graphics, better systems, that finally ditches the dogshit faction system and lets us be free agent mercenaries and a better class system where we can advanced classes etc.
    Otherwise they can let the game die for all I care.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you're a mmo addict so your opinion has no value

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Having come back to WoW for the first time in ages, how the fuck are you supposed to enjoy M+?
    >lmao, just play perfectly or get oneshot by one of the million things spawning under/around your anus, or that one mob in the pack that looked at you funny, or that one spell you couldn't interrupt because the nameplates in the game are just as bad as they were 19 years ago

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just wait until they nerf it like always. The changelog for dungeons are longer than the entire lord of the rings trilogy at the end of an expansion

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >enjoy M+
        Only a masochist can enjoy that now. Blizzard sucked all the fun out of it, as usual.

        Well fuck me. I'm already 8/8 N/H this week. Guess it's time to go get shit on in PVP.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >enjoy M+
      Only a masochist can enjoy that now. Blizzard sucked all the fun out of it, as usual.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I actually bought Dragonflight because I had a several week vacation already during launch and decided why not when I was in between games. Could only make it halfway through the leveling before just giving up.

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