90% of the hate this game got just boiled down to people being filtered by not being able to do braindead i-frame spam
I dont even like this game anywhere as much as ds1 but this is literally the truth. People were just mostly shitters that are unable to adapt; They werent able to actually look at the enemy's attacks and strafe/roll accordingly in order to attempt to evade the hitbox, and instead of learning to overcome their crippling reliance on a braindead i-frame button, they decided to blame the game instead for '' making levelling ADP a requirement for it to be playable '' (which is ironic, adaptability ended up primarily as a stat for people that cant adapt for shit),
If the game simply had high i-frames on rolls by default, that would be enough for people to say ''oh its a great game but its not as good as the first''.
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>disliking a meal means you were FILTERED from being able to finish your plate
nah
>he doesn't eat his daily deenz
NGMI
Those aren’t sardines.
>food anal orgy
Those actually taste great once you finally put them in your mouth, so looks like your own food analogy btfo you
I think it's a bad game
the game is designed around low ADP, most enemies have very slow and simple attack patterns that function much better with strict i-frames. It's a bad stat not because it should be higher but because it shouldn't exist.
Which is true for DeS and DS1 as well. Neither needed the iframes those games have.
You can play the entire game i framing with just the basic ADP stat
Fromdrones are brain damaged. I come to these threads just to watch you cultists argue with each other. You're like israelites. You operate like a hivemind when it comes to defending your shitty games but when you're not doing that you try to undermine each other. Literal psychopath morons.
DS2's hardest boss
defeated with base ADP
and no rolling
cope
the frick are you on, anons?
the OP literally agrees with you. Thats literally the point, the game is designed about actually dodging attacks and putting thought into it instead of just phasing through the enemy slashes. People couldnt deal with that
>putting thought
It really isn't its just knowing the timings of i frames. Its the same shit as usual just slightly different
Seethe
>That hit sound
>That weightless animation
Jesus Christ
these games are such a fricking joke. I feel bad for PCTards since they're stuck playing this dogshit
>get 1 hit in
>circle strafe around him to get another 1 hit in
I see why people say Elden Ring is just DS2
Alonne is at least 10 times harder than Fume.
I am talking about my personal experience with 30k SM character(s), no weapon infusion, and no resin and/or brightbug.
Honestly, I'm thinking about demolishing all those enemies before Alonne to make them stop spawning (if that's even possible in this area) because that shit is really annoying.
yes, you can make em despawn in memories
Damn it's been so long since bosses were designed to let the player have a turn. What changed From Software's approach to bosses from honorable duels to the player scavenging for an opening to counter attack like a rat hunting for food scraps in garbage?
>strengthlets
>honorable duel
>just runs around and hits the boss in the back 50 times.
>let's player have a turn
>people In duels take turns
How did elden ring manage to mind break people so badly that they post shit like this?
>those animations
>somebody playing Frustration in the background and popping the dice bubble in time with every hit
Why do people defend this reject
ugly and boring
>muh slow and deliberate gameplay
Yawn. Boring. Demon's Souls did it better than this God Forsaken series
Drop ER from Great to Fine, and I'd agree with this list.
I wanted to remake this list with that exact change, ER's 1st playthrough is magical. Frustrating, but a true sense of adventure.
Except it has 0 replayability outside of trying a Guts build, but I even quit doing that. Never played ER more than once as a result.
>bloodborne ranked at the top
>really really shitty opinion
We need a name for this phenomenon.
I don't like Dark Souls. Bloodborne took Demon's Souls' formula to the next logical step.
I also prefer item consumable heals to flasks cause they promote forward exploration being that they're common enemy drops instead of pussying out to regroup at a bonfire when you run out of estus.
DS1 is unfinished
DS2 shouldnt exist
DS3 is DARK SOULS: GREATEST HITS with more focus on annoying bosses than actual good level design.
I'd rather play Stonefang Tunnels forever than another fricking Dark Souls game
>having a bunch of grass is better than a reusable flask
opinion discarded.
Yes, cause you get multiple types of grass which have varying degrees of healing.
The only problem is grinding but the Tower Knight archstone in Boletaria has enemies that drop a shitton of grass, so it eventually becomes a non-issue.
In BB I go to farm at the guy banging on the gate outside of Ludwig's boss room. After 30 minutes I have max heals and can play freely. Or I just grind heals until I feel satisfied with the quantity that I have.
Estus is a boring mechanic
Estus is better system, running around with a bunch of grass is moronic. It broke Demon's Souls worse than the fricking Mana system.
>I'm bad at resource management so I require 20 free sippies please.
Yes.
>20
Its 5, at the Firelink its 10 after Pinwheel it becomes 15. I think originally it wasn't even liked that until they changed it. Demon's Souls wasn't even charged it was shit from the beginning.
>more shitty opinions
Yes we get your point now we need a name for bloodtroons always having shit opinions.
Dark Souls is lame. Keep coping
NTA but I thought Bloodborne was lame. Every boss until the DLC is ass aside from like 4. Yharnam was the peak of the game and it never does anything better or more interesting. Insight was such a cool idea that they did practically nothing with. I think the combat is fun, but it's only utilized to its fullest a handful of times.
>Insight
What the frick did you expect to do with it? Its a currency and a mild gameplay condition, they can't get stupid with it without fricking it up.
>this other shit you wrote
What in the frick are you talking about you moron? Nightmare of Mensis and Cainhurst are some of the best locations they've ever designed. The only boss from the bar game that's truly bad and disliked is the Hemwick Witches, every other boss was interesting in their own way.
>Insight
Is an extremely minor gameplay condition. I would have loved to see it taken in more interesting directions and be more involved with the game. Just because it is a currency system currently doesn't mean it should have been.
>Areas
This has to be a joke right? Nightmare of Mensis and Nightmare Frontier are some of the least inspired, worst areas they've ever made. Cainhurst is fine, but it certainly doesn't even come close to Yharnam. Henwick Charnel Lane was also entirely forgettable, Forbidden Woods was a joke and Byrgenwerth was absurdly lazy.
>Bosses
Absolutely not. What the actual frick are you talking about?
>Celestial Emissary
>Rom
>Micolash
>The One Reborn
>Witches of Hemwick
>Mergo's Wet Nurse
>Moon Presence
>Amygdala
>Darkbeast Paarl
Are all genuinely terrible
>Shadows of Yharnam
>Gascoigne
>Gherman
>Logarius
>Ebrietas
Are the only ones that are genuinely good, and of those only Gascoigne and Gherman stand out as some of the best they've made. The game only has 17 base game bosses, the fact that so many are bad is a joke. A boss being "different" doesn't automatically make it good. I'm not going to claim Ceaseless Discharge or Bed of Chaos are good because they're unique
Like what? You didn't answer the question about insight. You're just spewing incoherent shit.
Sorry, I forgot Bloodborne is immune to criticism. I can't believe saying "I wish this mechanic were more involved" is somehow incoherent to you. If you somehow need someone to do thinking for you, I wish Insight had more of an impact in the game. More special enemies that appear depending on your insight, more enemies that change depending on it, more secrets or special things you can see or do depending on it. I loved the idea of slowly seeing the world for how it truly is and found Bloodborne's use of it lacking.
lol every bloodborne boss is some ugly thing constantly screeching
lame af
it's called being a secondary
ESL here. Isn't fine better than good?
Out Loud it sounds something like this
>Ehh, its Fine
and
>This is Good
Fine just means acceptable while Good here means actual enjoyment through and through
I'm ask because when a man sees a nice lady he says
>Damn, that's a fine piece of ass
and not
>Damn, that's a good piece of ass
so...you see why I am confused. I'm not trying to be a smartass, I just asked.
Fine is a modifier. It doesn't always mean good. It's only definite meaning is: not bad
>damn, that's a not bad piece of ass!
"Fine" is very confusing, you're correct. "Fine wine" vs "it's fine" mean very different things
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/fine
So close to greatness
>er
>10/10
Yes, it is. How mindbroken were you when it became the highest awarded game of all time?
NTA but I was pretty upset in 2020. when Void Terrarium wasn't even nominated for the best OST, and I start shaking when I hear that over 12 mil PS4 players have played Bloodborne but only 2 mil copies were sold. Meaning only 1/6 of players bought it and other 5/6 played when it was ''free'' on PS+
>game awards
why did from software never return to demon's souls style level structure? it's my favorite aspect of that game
>bloodborne at the top when the game right next to it does it's concept of aggressive parry based combat to near perfection and makes BB look like DS2
Yeah swap it with DS1 and ER and maybe moron
I am gonna be that moron and ask again, because answers on the net are confusing me.
If I join Covenant of Champions I will basically play
>hard mode
where enemies have more HP and deal more dmg, but they have infinite respawn. If I join CoC to farm certain item (while wearing Agape Ring for reason obvious) and when I'm done I switch to other covenant in Majula, would that leave my character in hard mode, or would I switch back to normal?
if i remember correctly, leaving the CoC reverts the difficulty back to your NG cycle.
not that it would matter if you ever use a bunch of bonfire ascetics in the same area for item farming
That's good to know, thanks. Yeah, I never played with CoC and I have hundreds of hours in DS2, and because of my specific run I have to farm few items which require bonfire ascetic (which, again, can be farmed over and over in Aldia's Keep), but I already know where to get those items:
>human effigy - first bonfire in Forest of FG, 5x in the wooden chest in the cave
>lifegems - The Gutter, 20x in some breakable pot before you jump down to Black Gulch
That's basically it. What I need is a Rapier but NOT the one from blacksmith. I read that ugly-ass enemies in Shaded Woods drop it, but I never got one. They only dropped Broadsword for me (or some other sword, not sure). For that reason I need to join CoC and hope they willl drop one.
Nice. Thanks.
The game is dogshit. Its been almost 9 yrs and you homosexuals are still coping about it.
Shit game erased and literally left in the trash by its devs.
Most shat on game in Ganker history and its not even close.
Dark Souls II will forever be shit, I agree.
Even the controls are objectively bad. Anyone saying that the game is good is just coping hard.
You know what else is there? Firelink Shrine, the worst hub in the series.
>oh no here comes a ds2 boss!
>quick! Slowly walk to his side to avoid any of his attacks!
Before I start asking questions about modding and cheating, can you explain why is character's HP bar at 0:40 suddenly grey, but at 0:42 it's red again?
>b team in charge of color overlaps
Video compression
not me. what I disliked is the graphics downgrade, the floaty movement and the lack of interesting locations/enemy designs.
will fromtrannies ever be able to talk about their games without devolving immediately into incoherent screeching about difficulty
What?
You don't even need ADP.
Thanks for this video, I will watch it but never attempt it. In first 3 mins I noticed 2 things:
>first, he was surrounded at fog gates in Forest of Fallen Giants; that won't happen if you stick to left side when you get up the ladder and you willl wake up only one enemy who is near the fog gate and even him won't attack you
>second, how the frick was interrputed when he tried to open the door that leads to Cardinal Tower bonfire
That shit never happens, when you try to open the door the attacking enemy won't hit you. It's the same with, say, lever in Lost Bastille that raises the iron ''gate'' near the blacksmith's room.
I think he's playing Scholar in the video.
Yes, that's the only version I played. I have never experienced that shit with doors that lead to CT bonfire, and I'm always attacked by that enemy on the left (with big sword)
Weird.
Why is criticism of this company verboten across all video game discussion websites?
We've seen "Git Gud", "Skill Issue" used to dismiss critique of the game once Dark Souls hit the PC platform. This became the normal deflection tactic that started to plague even the once pleasant DeS discussion threads back in the day.
There are bad actors in the industry wrongfully criticizing Souls "hardcore" nature, and it is frustrating to be lumped in with those bad actors when we point out questionable game design or flaws. (DaS's second half, Izalith, Bed of Chaos, etc)
Dark Souls 2 started the same way, and it wasn't until Mathewmatosis' video started being shilled on Ganker everyday until discourse around the game became splintered. One half saying git gud, and the other half dogpiling on the game.
With BB, criticism was deflected by use of the Fox and the sour grapes image at every turn.
Dark Souls 3 we saw a return to form with DaS, where all criticisms were dismissed with "Skill Issue" and "Git Gud". Problems with the game linearity and the low stamina+ generous iframe rolls were quickly silenced due to the same tactics. We saw the same thing with Sekiro.
Now with Elden Ring we have a png of some discord drama being used to dismiss and invalidate all critique by deflecting and calling the poster a troony.
Why and how did it get this bad?
Cause morons believe the whole point of these games is PREPARE TO DIE!!! LOL!!!! instead of having an actual sense of adventure
unironically the games have become some weird badge of honor for a lot of normalgays who think they're part of an exclusive club because they play them
Because they're good games? People celebrate Blizzard and id like its still the 90s when Diablo and Quake haven't been good in forever. FROM has a community that deeply cares about their games, particularly the ones Miyazaki is involved with, the completion rates for their games are some the highest in gaming history, there's a lot of people that romanticize games like LoZ: Windwaker, Beyond Good and Evil, Shenmue, and Jet Set Radio as some exclusive club that they only appreciated those games when no one else does/did, there's those that feel FROM and their community is like that, but I never felt that way about it and I've examined the community since 2010.
>FROM has a community that deeply cares about their games
lol
Who has a more rabid fanbase right now in gaming? I guess only Nintendo with Pokemon and Animal Crossing.
It's a toss up between Sonyshils and Soulsgays.
>Sony
Sony is about to abandon their core audience since they're chasing F2P money with Jim Ryan as boss. Everyone knows Forbidden West, and TLOU Part II underperformed.
You copy paste this exact comment every thread schizo-kun. Not once have you ever responded to anyone calling you out for your bullshit.
nothing he said (me) is wrong tho
>proving him right
zero self awareness as usual
Not a single person on this board will ever claim that Lost Izalith or Bed of Chaos aren't issues with Dark Souls. Criticism of these games is, and has always, been accepted and talked about frequently. Criticism of Elden Ring is extremely widespread. There's dozens of multi-million view YouTube videos documenting all the issues they have with the game. There are thousands of reddit threads complaining about the bosses or the open world. You aren't special. You're being told to frick off because your arguments are laughable and disingenuous
>which is ironic, adaptability ended up primarily as a stat for people that cant adapt for shit
I clapped. I stood up from my srat and clapped. I don't care if my boss fires me.
its shit because the level design is shit, the combat is shit, the enemy design is shit, the bosses are shit, the graphics are shit, every fight is a fricking horde of annoying enemies who can stunlock you to death because when you roll once you're out of stamina
and why does the game look so fricking unfinished? 70% of the game is empty rooms with repeated textures
Calling something shit, because it's shit is not real criticism.
*a real
filtered
the levels are linear, the movement feels like you're walking through custard, the combat is floaty and the hitboxes are trash, you can just walk around most bosses and they cant hit you,
apart from a few areas like Majula, Dragon Aerie and Tower of Flame, the game looks like absolute shite with repeated textures everywhere and no detail in the world
the attention to detail in every other from game is amazing, DS2 is just a mess, random chests everywhere full of shit like torches, barely any visual storytelling, items are placed haphazardly everywhere, the levels dont even make sense like they do in every other from software game
skill issue
>the levels are linear
Like every souls game? Not reading the rest.
>the game looks like absolute shite
I fricking hate Scotland and its people.
>the combat is floaty
DS2 is the only one where the combat isn't floaty. There's no weight or momentum to consider when moving and attacking, in the others, like there is in 2.
>no 8 way movement Is actually a good thing! See my crippled, janky movements? Don't you like this?
Okay. I don’t like it cause I think it’s very flawed.
8 years and people still seethe about Bloodborne.
Why is it such a floaty piece of shit compared to Dark 1, which was a floaty and slow piece of shit compared to Demons?
Lol, Demon's Souls is damn near shit, don't pretend its better you dumb homosexual
The games are literally all shit until BB lmfao. Demons is at least swift turd
>ie the game I can just spam r1 like an idiot feels the best
Dark Souls 1 and Demons are peak r1 spam. Especially dark1, you just ignore everything with poise
Filtered.
DS2 is the one that isn't floaty. All the others are spastic, jerky, weightless, and floaty. With no sense of momentum or inertia. It's not up to interpretation or personal feelings. It's facts. You don't know anything about what you're talking about. There's nothing weighty about Demons Souls. Even DS1 is better. You're a buzzword spewing bot.
Have you looked at that webm or played the game?
Yes. DS3 is floaty spammy trash. DS2 is tactical and grounded. You can see evidence of that right there in the webm. You can feel it when you swing a weapon and have to commit because you cant rotate around willy nilly like an inflatable tube man.
Ds2 is stuck in the mud with poor mechanics, poor hit detection. And poor visuals.
No you just got fricking filtered because you're bad and 12 years old
No. The game doesn't have 8 way movement. It is 100% inferior to even demons souls.
Yes it does. You're a filtered moron reaching for muh deadzones to excuse being shit. If Dark Souls was a first person shooter or Mario you might have a point.
Dark Souls 2 is a real mess of a game. I don't understand stand how there are real people who genuinely believe that the game is anything above a 7/10. The game is obviously scrapped together last minute and it shows. I do think the crowns DLCs are really good although they have some bullshit like the frozen waste area and the blue smelther demon area. The base game feels like the second half of dark souls 1 but they made a full game from it. Idk if this is just for the Scholar of the first sin PC port but all the movement feels slow and delayed, the animations feel weightless. I don't think the game is trash and I don't think it deserves the amount of flack it gets but it is understandable the amount of disappointment people had when it came out, the dogshit graphical downgrade was one of the reasons why I didn't buy the original version of dark souls 2 when it came out.
Based, anyone who still hates DS2 should watch this video, one chapter at a time
I didn't hate it, but its easily my least favorite of the series. It was probably the easiest as well. Enemy placement is stupid sometimes though and they knew it which is why they added the despawn mechanic.
>needs a youtuber to tell him what to like or dislike
kys
The lighting was great when there were actual light sources. Dark areas looked like complete dogshit.
I wish the game kept the torch mechanic dependency it was going to have, one of my favorite moments of DSII is lighting all the torches in the Forest.
What grinds my gear is that person here is fighting enemies in No Man's Wharf with not upgraded Estus Flask.
>first area, single enemy
>early area, aggro'd multiple enemies
what should I compare? I don't see anything wrong with either clip.
DS2 trannies have to lie, nothing new. Don't bother.
He wants you to look at the shadows but also not to notice one rotating around in perfect clarity like a dradle lol
What I can't get over is how jank it all feels. I enjoy every other game in the series except DS3 which I think is kind of shit for totally opposite reasons as DS2. I've tried to play DS2 so many times but it just feels so jank, like a less smooth version of DS1.
I've played DS1, BB, and Sekiro like 10+ times each but can never get myself to finish either DS2 or 3.
see
You're wrong. Objectively speaking
Nah I don't think I am, even the controls are off as one person in this thread has already indicated. DS2 feels like Jank Souls.
I played it and got decently far, same with DS3, but ended up dropping it out of lack of interest everytime.
Not a difficulty thing, game is way easier than Sekiro. I don't think I died to a single boss.
Your feelings dont mean anything. I don't have time for them. You're objectively wrong.
Does being moronic 24/7 benefit you in some way? Don't bother answering, just popped in to call you in a homosexual
Can you explain what part of DS2 is inherently less interesting than DS3? It's literally the same stuff, random ass run down fantasy locations. The enemies in 2 are actually even more varied than 3.
>it’s the same
Is this what it’s like through the eyes of a 2fan? No, the Covetous Demon and generic Medusa gorgon Mytha aren’t as interesting design wise as Pontiff, sorry.
nta but a lot of enemies and bosses in ds2 are really generic, like the iron king looks like just some big devil guy from hell and one of the bosses is just a really big spider
it has some unique enemies but not usually
ok thats all the games? Capra demon looks like diablo and a des boss is straight up lifted from another franchise.
yes there are generic enemies in all the games but most of them are unique, in ds2 is the opposite, most are generic and some are unique
also I can't talk abou demon souls as I have not played it yet
>I can't talk abou demon souls as I have not played it yet
I knew DS2 haters were newbies
ok
No they aren't
wrong
Yes they are you're just a deluded fanboy
>no they aren't
>yes thet are
>most of them are unique
wow dude here's your original ds3 boss. It's not totally a generic looking skeleton.
skill issue. ds2 plays the best
Rolling is one frame faster. Fine. It's still a completely shit game, and you're moronic for not understanding this. DS2 lacks everything which made DeS and DaS good.
Cry about it baby it's better then des and ds1
There's this sort of severely autistic and frustrated feeling to all the pro-DS2 posts. The rolling is slightly more responsive! You can run in more directions! The lighting engine is superior!!! It's genuinely quite sad to read, as it's coming from people who quite clearly didn't understand what made the first game unique. It's like saying that the Disney Star Wars movies are better than the originals because they're in 4K. Sure, it's objectively better in some technical aspects, but what's the point, when it's so completely soulless and unoriginal?
none of this means anything. you're a bot
Boo hoo autist
DeS and BB are my favorite, wish they weren't gated behind Sony consoles.
>that weightless and floaty attack
holy shit
i dont wanna hear about ds2 tracking ever again
ADP is a minor problem with a easy work around the real problem is the game's baron areas with no detail, the obvious drop in animation quality, and the lack of actual difficulty other than spamming the same enemy in a area.
mentally ill webm spammer has arrived. thread is now complete.
geee i wonder why sissy bandwagon casuals got filtered hmmm?
but it's the easiest one
the ground is a different color
How are you posting every 30 seconds lol
you using multiple IPs to spam?
Yep, blowing small issues or things that aren't issues at all completely out of proportion is the foundation of DS2 hate. It's really bizarre.
>no matter how tender, how exquisite...
A lie will remain a lie.
>that skyrim movement and animations
holy frick
>someone dares to shit on ds2
>RELEASE THE WEBMS
That's a fricking filtering I tell you hwut.
>get hit in the face with the Tooth of a dragon
>wooowww
what kind of cope is this? you can put 5 points into adp and it becomes easier than dark souls 1
Yo this combat is fire and so fast!
No one has ever said that, moron.
oh no he is getting desperate now
This tells you everything you need to know.
ds2 looks way better than 3
>DS2 was downgraded
>has shadows
>DS3 was not downgraded
>doesn't have shadows, but has 50 shades of brown and gray
Can someone explain this to me?
DS2 blew its budget and developing time in good lightning which is why its probably the best in the series
>good lighting
>Looks the worst, plays the worst and sounds the worst
Pretty based.
In DS3, when you hit an enemy with a sword, this hit produces a sound that sounds like a slap. Is that normal to you, or anyone?
It sounds like a slash.
>It sounds like a slash.
You mean SPLASH. Water splash. Or slap.
Same hit sounds for enemies in armor or not. Kill sound for add children.
please don't add children to the hitsound
you must be used to some pretty brutal slapping man
DS2 doesn't have enemies REEEEE'ing every 5 minutes so it automatically sounds better than Swamp Rolls 3.
filtered
the difference in enemy design is pretty insane
>the DS2 fan that has a folder of images and webms dedicated to hating on DS1/DS3 is spam posting again
Hahahaha, the only way to keep DS2 threads alive is to seethe about better games in it’s series.
go make a ds1 or 3 thread if you like them so much
??? I’m already in one. About 100 of these posts are about those two games ROFL
No you aren't you spend all your time in ds2 threads. Go 5 minutes not thinking about ds2.
Alright I went 6 minutes without thinking about DS2 what do I win? More crying about DS3 being rollspam or DS1 being backstabspam?
I am in one right now
holy shit...
Nah lol
Shit levels, shit atmosphere, forgettable music, inexplicably slow, dogshit MMO enemies and bosses, weird movement, etc. Agility or whatever is an incredibly small gripe solved by some point investment
Why did this one feel the most like an actual rpg?
Its the most generic looking one so it feels closer to other rpgs
True, it felt like fricking Baldurs Gate or fricking troony Age.
AI-generated-tier enemies and bosses and areas that feel like they're from generic dark fantasy and lacking the weirdness of the earlier games. If you like generic RPGs, you might like DS2 the most.
I view dark souls 2 as okay for it’s time with no real reason to play today, but I remember my aim to be a lightning paladin as actually feeling more like a typical rpg progression than other souls games
I can't see myself replaying it. It handles worse than any of the other games just in terms of raw gameplay.
No it handles the best
It doesn't. It's the slowest, animates like shit, and has dead zone movement. It's the worst one by a massive margin.
ds1 is slower
It's not. Either way, it's competing for dead last for slow dogshit
You can play Ninja Gaiden or Nioh if all you want is speed zoomer. None of the souls games are fast.
Demons souls is much faster than dark souls 2. The later games are also faster. Dark Souls 2 being a slow piece of shit ≠ I want to play NG, but nice try I guess. It's abhorrent and stands out as particularly slow from the other games
Why are you playing souls games for speed you moron zoomers? It's faster than 1 but i never said it's fast.
I played the games on release. DS2 was slow for no reason and it made the gameplay strictly worse than the games before it despite some improvements.
The speed was returned to normal with BB, so the real question isn't why I want it to be fast, but why do you think it should be slow when they started off as faster games.
Don't @ me again without a 2009/2010 DeS plat, bandwagon zoomer
It's faster than ds1. It's not open to your personal feelings. It's the way it is. BB never returned to speed because they were never fast games to begin with.
You didn't answer my question and you didn't show your DeS plat. You say it's faster by literal normalBlack folk can tell
Why do you want the games to be slower and shittier than Demon's?
We're talking about ds2 being slow not demons which is also slow but not in a painful way.
Demon's gameplay still feels pretty good today. There's other reason for that, like fighter and punchier movesets too, but man, does DS2 feel like a slippery and slow turd.
His made up friend doesn't mean anything. If you want speed why don't you play Nioh or actually fast games? You think DS3 or any of these other pseud from action games are "fast"? lmao. Way to completely miss the point of a souls game. The speed isn't the appeal.
Nothing you say means anything either frankly.
Are you going to answer my question or not? I want the games to play as fast or faster than the original game, not way slower. You want the abhorrent slower versions of the game. Why did you bandwagon in this opinion?
Are you saying ds2 is faster than BB????
BB is slightly faster than Demon's and Sekiro is slightly faster than BB. ER and DeS are the same speed. DS2 is the slow dogshit. Your brain is clearly fricked up.
you're objectively wrong
You move slower across the board in DS1. And you have to limit yourself no greater than 25% equip load if you don't wanna be any slower. Compare a 26% roll in DS2 to one in DS1 and then tell me 1 is faster. You're an idiot.
Walking around in ds2 Is like walking in mud.
Prove it with even a scrap of evidence. Almost everyone will say DS2 is slow. The onus is on you to prove your contrary opinion
>slowest
wrong
DS2 has omni-rolling, fastest response times, minimal input queuing, free way sprinting when locked on, faster strafing, longer distance rolls. You got filtered by more tactical gameplay and stricter execution. Sorry.
It's slower than Demons, Dark 3, BB Sekiro, and ER. It's as slow or slower than Dark Souls 1
It's definitely slower than ds1. Even my friend who barely plays vidya could tell after immediately going from 1 to 2.
something good about replaying ds2 is that ng+ has new enemy encounters, pretty cool
I just replayed all the Soulsborne games back to back and I have to say ER is still my favorite. It was my favorite when I played it last year but I thought that might have just been because of recency bias but no, it's still my fav.
unfortunately you just have bad taste
Lost Judgment is my favorite RGG game.
Sekiro and BB are the only ones I ever replayed. The others have worse gameplay and ER is miserable with repeating dungeons and maingame chalices
>force the devs to make dark souls 2
>they make it shit on purpose
Based
I know ds3 is 99% dark and gray but a comparison between a dark room and a room with fire in it makes no sense
Amazing how shit these games are compared to Bloodborne
They fell off so hard after 2
>after 1
FTFY
>After Demon's
FTFY. luckily Japan Studio saved the atmosphere of BB
tfw you realise that DS2 wasn't downgraded to run on weaker consoles, but to make upcoming 18fpsBorne and DS3 look less shitty in comparison
>mfw the bearer of the curse became completely immortal at the end of the game
I wish we get to see him again
usual das2gay cope where they pretend the game is hard and that's why people hate it.
it's a piss poorly designed mess of asset reuse after they fricked up their original concept for the game. it's like if an alien saw dark souls and tried to recreate it.
I just learned that Hbomberguy moron made a video response to Matosis' video and it's so fricking bad it's hilarious. Did Matt ever respond back in someway?
No
>YouTube troony fighting
Are you really this pathetic?
Yes. Are you?
matt doesn't interact with youtube spergs and it's honestly something every creator should do, he's content just getting drunk at home and harassing his daughterwife so that she draws sprites for his shit game
huh? most of the people saying DS2 dont like it because it is braindead easy and shittier than the other entries in the series. almost everyone who hates DS2 is a dark souls fan. youre a fricking idiot.
>it is braindead easy
It is objectively not. There are mechanics that punish you for playing badly and plenty of ambushes that cross the line into unfair. Moreso than any other game in the series.
the slow heal of the estus kills any difficulty anyway
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>antids2gays don't even know basic shit about the game they're criticizing
DS2gays new tactic is to pretend that ds2 is actually a more methodical high iq game the rest of the series and say shit like “it makes you feel like an adventurer who has to use his head” or some shit
That is objectively the truth though. You can't just brainlessly roll through everything when your rolls are limited in both number and effectiveness.
My first playthrough was rolling with no adp cause I didn’t know about it and I still adapted to the lack of i frames but now I’ve realized I could have just strafed around the enemy instead
It is or else you sissies wouldn't cope about enemy placement, fog walls, stamina, and a dozen other things.
the argument that ended everything
it literally can't be refuted no matter what
No because I played the non SOTFS version first
DS2gays are terminally mindbroken by DS3. Despite the fact that people were disappointed by DS2 even at launch, they will still deflect to DS3 and say that the only reason why people don't like DS2 is because they can't rollspam like in later games.
Overall DS2 was just okay, it doesn't deserve all the hate it gets, but it's not nearly as good as the people defending it try to make it seem.
Average boss quality in FromSoft RPG's has always increased from game to game.
DeS < DaS < DaS2 < BB < DaS3 < ER
I had a friend that I couldn't get into dark souls even though he was into fantasy rpgs, but he loved dark souls 2. I didn't keep up with him long enough to know if it functioned as a gateway to the other games or not
Ds2sissies... Why are we the least played dark souls on steam? I thought ds2 was the best game in the series...
I forgot that dog shit game has two versions, lol.
But you can do braindead i-frame spam. In fact, it's easier than ever to do braindead i-frame spam without any downsides because your roll speed has no impact on your i-frames, so you can roll with heavy armor and have the same i-frames as you would in DS1 w/ DWGR. It's just a fricking moronic way to approach i-frames, and you're moronic for defending it.
>the game where you get like 3 rolls before running out of stamina is easier to rollspam than the one where you get 10 right at the start of the game and has zero recovery and equip load doesn't matter anyway so this is viable at 69%.
Something no one brings up is how ds2 started the homogenization of dex and str weapons. In ds1 it made sense str weapons were slow and dex weapons were fast but in the rest of the series onwards we have god damn str curved swords and dex ultras. The best twin blades aren’t even dex in both this and ER
No one has deep discussion like that over DSII because its dogshit to begin with. Why bother. Might as well talk about Ninja Blade while we're at it.
What filtered you guys? For me it was the soulless art direction and level design
thats ds3
Ds3 didn't lie about its looks.
Jesus, that fricking game. I will never forgive FROM for attaching their name to that garbage.
I just can't get over the fact that Dark Souls 2 looks like someone booted up the console and typed 'fullbright: on'
It has pretty decent graphics but the last minute adjustments to the lighting engine just make the whole thing look like absolute dog shit.
I preferred the npcs of DS2 tbh
That's the one good thing the game has. Lucatiel is pretty good.
I also preferred majula to the firelink shrines. It's the closest in the souls series to looking like a functional town
He found a cure for hollowing and was nice enough to give it to you
>the cuck king
What did B team mean by this?
he looks like he is playing the flute haha
it had some great ones, i really liked vengarl and the guy who calls you FEEEEEBLE CURSED ONE
Holy shit I forgot about Vengarl.
He was so cool.
The game had very good and memorable NPCs. The voice acting was perfect for pretty much every character and mighty be the best of the three
I only remember Aldia, Vendrick, Alsanna, and Lucatiel.
Oh and Gavlan cause he wheels and deals.
You should have been able to give the crown to Lucatiel ;_;.
>didn't mention him
You're a fricking homosexual.
I think I completely missed this guy on my first playthrough.
Did he have a quest or anything?
I remember Darklurker and how it was supposed to be connected somehow but I don’t recall much.
Oh yeah he was cool too. I liked how there were guys like him and the Rat King just minding their own business with some interesting flavor. Especially the folk tale kind of story the rat king tells about humans and rats making an ancient agreement.
>buy the twin dragon greatshield
>buy a gorrillion lifegems after the first boss
enjoy the cake walk
I beat the game with the flame sword. It was fricking cringe.
Or play like a man with only 30k souls.
>SL 22
>SM 30000
>HP is over 1500
>STA is over 100
LMAO
Christ that game was build with morons in mind.
Feel free to beat the game with 30k
Good luck. 🙂
I could beat the base game but not the DLC like that; Alonne and Fume would filter me. Squalid, Gank Squad and Sinh would be annoying too.
Not gonna lie, Alonne is hard.
Sinh is easy.
And yes, I'm too much of a pussy to even try Duo Catz.
Lud and Zallen are fricking annoying, I hate those homosexual felines more than Watcher and Defender. Have you tried killing Aava atleast like that?
I have Vessel Shield on that pic, and you get it after beating Aava. So yeah.
Done: Aava, Fume, Squid Queen, Sinh
Not done: Alonne, Blue Smelter (didn't even try yet, might as well cheese him with poison knives), Duo Catz, Trio buttholes (didn't attempt yet), Ivory King (didn't even attempt)
I got both challenge rings in 1 run but it wasn't low soul memory, I wish I had the time to do that shit
You know, anon. I think this thread brings a good luck. I started NG today with the same goal, but better. Now I got to Shaded Woods 2nd bonfire, used that rusted coun from Things Betwixt and look what I got.
I will farm some more in hope they'll drop Rapier, but if not this will do. This just saved me 2000 souls (that I would guve for blacksmith key and Rapier) and, if my calculations are correct, this will allow me to raise my char to lv 24 (previous one was 22)
>I will farm some more in hope they'll drop Rapier
Anon, stop pressing Enter after quote.
>health bar bigger than his dick
>braggart
One is Rolly Polly Duty 3 and the other borderline Tom Clancy. Guess which one the kiddies are gonna like
When I followed DS2 leading up to release, it seemed like the devs stated a lot that they wanted the combat to be very deliberate and tactical, with each action being a careful consideration by the player. But because DS2 got bad press they 180'd on that design philosophy and that's probably why we have Dark Rolls 3: The R1 Spam Edition
I just finished my DS1 replay, online was disabled so it was pretty lonely, hoping I get invaded in DS2
Is that Xbox or PC? Cos I thought the PC Version got fricked when they delayed PTDE, and split the base in half with remastered. I played DS1 on PS3 not too long ago and it was still filled with ass wipes.
It's the old PC version, I didn't know there was a remaster until I was halfway through
Why 28 faith?
I wanted to be a sunbro when I started the run
I was using velkas talisman for lightning spear/wrath of the gods
Is the guy defending DS2 to the death and spamming webms every time still here? I have a question.
Do you believe the earth is round or flat? Your posting style and spamming of proof very much reminds me of flat earthers.
>SOTFS is apparently bad
what happened? i thought it was better and fixed shit