We’re never getting 90’s JRPGs ever again. Devs are too uncreative and scared to take risks, audiences are too stupid and impatient to understand a story or battle system above a 4th grade reading level.
Nope. Make way for in-your-face snorefest stories, over explanation of simple mechanics, yawnworthy “atmospheric” OSTs, soulless asset shop world design, and no less than 40% of the game being cutscenes that are just shitty movies that take too long to give the player information.
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Can you please just say "RPG like the 90s"? Of course it's not temporally possible to get a 90s after the 90s.
get over it, idiot.
Thread OP is a huge bait for smartass replies instead of focusing on the topic, that's a problem.
>Chrono Trigger
Ah yes, the most overrated game of all time
Probably the worst fricking xombat system too, fricking piss easy and mindless
I liked it, and you are a moron. A masterpiece is a masterpiece because all elements are perfectly combined in the right amount. Go back to discord
mindless npc post
Contrarianism for the sake of it are the NPCs on Ganker.
>no u
>not a single coherent argument so far
average 0 IQ NPC chrono trigger fan
It's a 30 year old game that is universally loved. It doesn't need me to defend it. 30 years from now, it'll still be loved while no one will give a frick about you.
thanks for thinking nothing, saying nothing and contributing nothing
keep being an unthinking NPC drone
>my favorite streamer told me to think this
>no I’ve never actually played the game.
>Go back to discord nooo xits impossible someone genuinely dislikes this game
>Chrono Trooner is a masterpiece!!!
Glad Toriyama fricking died sl you mediocre slop eaters dont get a remake
damn that's crazy I didn't think I'd go on Ganker today and see a troony baiting for attention. very unexpected
>piss easy and mindless
anon that's almost every game that's not an online pvp sweatfeat or a memeshit "difficult" souls-type game. I bet you're the kind of gay that brags about games you've beaten and takes pride in being "good" at videogames.
>Movie games are good when its chrono trigger
Wild
no moron, basically all games are easy. I don't care what you call them or how you want to incorrectly classify them to be an antagonistic gay. only trannies and underaged carry about being challenged by games or being competitive. grow up and dilate
No one is talking about games being easy or hard, or whatever you are crying about.
Nice made up argument.
Chrono Trigger being having piss easy and mindless combat, is bad from a deeper level than you're able to understand.
name a game you consider challenging and thought provoking (lmao)
I'd rather name games that are better JRPGS
>Chrono Cross
>Live A Live
>Ff7
>MOTHER 1
>Golden Sun
Hell I'd even say shit like Xenogears and Mario RPG are better.
Most of those are 90’s JRPGs; which is what the post is about
deflective answer, as expected from a troony. all of those games are just as easy and mindless as CT anyway. Which is fine, but you're the one that made that moronic argument.
> FF7
Oh so you need a literal troon scene for you to like the game.
It's not the most overrated JRPG on the SNES (that would be EarthBound) nor the easiest (that would be Mario RPG, or FF Mystic Quest). People need to stop repeating the "Chrono Trigger is overrated" like it's still 2005.
Meanwhile, a mediocre ass pokepedo is going to defend this mediocre sloppy jrpg
Like clockwork. Do you ever sleep Chrono Black person shitposter?
Not really, I should
Funny enough, now saying Chrono Trigger is the most overrated game in itself is banal and overrated.
We started off saying it's underrated, then we said it's overrated. We'll go back to underrated soon. The cycle will continue. It MUST continue.
games had shallower stories and combat back then. chrono trigger is ninja pirate zombie robot bullshit and there's no challenge whatsoever
>a game can’t be good if it isn’t hard
Zoomer take
OP specifically praised the complex battle system
It’s a good thing that the post wasn’t about chrono trigger exclusively
>Use chrono trigger as the example
>Deep story
Lavos is evil just because
Future lacks food
Frog vs a mage
>Complex combat
Lmao
Either you’re being purposefully obtuse, or you really didn’t play the game
nta but chrono triggers gameplay is very fricking basic lol. Playing through the game normally and doing all the sidequests after you revive chrono makes lavos a fricking cakewalk. I will say chrono trigger has some of the best osts, aesthetic, and characters out of any rpg I've played
>CT has some of the best characters
There were characters? I just saw some Dragon Ball cardboard cutouts on my game
sounds like good characters to me
not my fault you have shit taste
Ok Dbz mutt
Ganker is next door btw go shitpost about Gohan con Cabello Rojo
their designs are wonderful but do they matter? it's like a party full of umaros man
the character work and world building are paper thin in CT by design. it's all to facilitate the break neck pacing and to usher people to the next set piece. there's barely any characters to talk about.
Lavos isn't really evil, it's just a space calamity. The real villains are characters like Queen Zeal who want to use Lavos' power.
I don't believe Zeal is a real villain, only she's getting used by Lavos.
chrono trigger's complex battle system was endlessly praised in its time
nobody cared about games being hard as frick back then like you pretend to now. we didnt pretend like you do, trying to get a leg up on others
hint...no oldschool gamer considers any single player game hard
So wheres the complexity in autoattacking everyone to death or instakilling them with techs in Chrono Trigger?
You can't autoattack most bosses in Chrono Trigger or you'll die. Most of them have some kind of gimmick that'll result in either you dying or the boss taking no damage if you just mindlessly auto attack.
3 of them do.
That's a lie. You just think that because you've metagamed to the point that you brute force most bosses.
That's precisely why CT is so good - because of its simple plot they were able to polish the pacing and characters. Those 2 things are FAR more important when it comes to writing and it's exactly why modern JRPG's are so terrible - because they get bogged down with endless convoluted plot twists
>claims to yearn for the "golden age" of RPGs
>posts Chrono Trigger, the most casualized JRPG of its time
>when JRPGs were already a turbo casualized genre
Huh?
CT was for casuals.
Real men played Final Fantasy 1 and shunned everything that followed as the watered down pale imitations they were.
>Final Fantasy 1
>exact same battles for the entire game
Final Fantasy didn't get good until IV, stop denying it.
ff1 is a masterpiece
Why? Maybe during that time, it could be praised for class freedom but the gameplay itself is repetitive and fricking boring.
Are you moronic? Chrono Trigger is a game for literal toddlers, with a story to mach.
Anyway, Baldur's Gate 3 came out last year. Seems like real RPGs are doing fine, kiddo.
>Baulders gate
Western RPG slop with no imagination at all
>imagination
You can enjoy your kiddie shounenslop story in a casual toddler game with no RPG mechanics to speak of. Just don't pretend you're anything above a bottom feeder. You have no authority on this matter.
Ironic you used the word "toddlers" because they are the ones that place so much emphasis on """story"""
Oh no! We'll never get games that consisted entirely of grinding random encounters with the in-depth strategic decisions of selecting between
>Attack
>Magic
>Item
>Run
What a horrible tragedy! We won't get games that consist entirely of selecting Attack over and over.
Fricking Pokemon has more depth.
You can't just attack over and over against this guy unless you're extremely overleveled.
Is this the most overrated game of all time?
>Combat is so fricking easy that you never even hear the battle theme get to the good part, just the shitty intro
>Overworlds are empty as shit and small too, you can walk entire continents in 7 seconds flat
>The game lets you explore a bunch of time periods, but going anywhere other than the main story just gets you overleveled / overgeared for the rest of the game making an already easy game piss easy
>You can very easily overlevel and get to op
>even if you don't the combat is mindless easy and you can destroy anything with iust regular attacks
>If you somehow struggle in combat just spam your techs which obliterate everything and have almost little to no MP cost
>Even if you run out of mp (unlikely) there are too many shelters that both fully heal and restore MP
>Dino chapter is a fricking slog
>the main theme is overplayed, more likely to hear it more than just the regular battle theme
>The best part is frog vs magus and that's only like 1 hours of the total 17 hours runtime
>no side content aside of giving money to poor family and the side quests at the literal last hour of the game
>characters are shallow as a puddle consisting of
>Engineer girl that likes tech and crono
>Caveman girl that likes fight and crono
>Princess girl that likes israeliteel and crono
>Robot
>Crono
>a frog and mage that actually have some story
>Bosses are mostly bad with 1 gimmick attack like COUNTER, COUNTING FROM 5 TO 0, and more
>The bosses are just damage sponges with 1 gimmick, they are either a joke or too long for their own good
>Time periods feel like an afterthought alongside the whole time travel sequence since the overworld is so small it could of easily worked the same with them just being different regions
>final boss is a rerun unless you crash the ship
don't care
didn't read
chrono trigger still a 10/10
>Literally 0 arguments
Easy peazy chrono trooners
yeah not reading any of that
nice diary entry homosexual
>2 or 3 subjective nitpicks reworded and repeated 25times
lol
you're right but all jrpgs are garbage. even if the battle system is decent, the horrendous dialogue and characterization bring them down every time
>piss and moan that AAA isn't charging him $80 for pixelshit jrpg slop
>probably thousands of indie troon game that are exactly what he wants but he doesn't know about them because he's a moron consoomer who doesn't know a game exists unless he sees it advertised on TV
Looks like a bunch of ugly edgy midgets.
>saves 2d jrpgs
i cant play this because i cant beat the real final boss in the first game
1. it's not that good, or on par with 90's JRPGS
2. It's not 2D, not even close to being 2D. Not even 2.5D
SE just lost 5 trillion dollars because they've spent the last few years making nothing but chrono trigger descended set piece theme parks instead of real crunchy rpgs where you have to sort things in your back pack. you chrono Black folk are so stupid it's unreal
JRPGs are the worst video game genre of all time, get real you fricking morons
Nah, some of the greatest games of all time are JRPGs. What kind of games do you enjoy?
only muttmerican nintentards care about JRPGs because that was the only thing the SNES could run
You know that the snes could do a lot more than just RPGs, don’t be bad faith. Hell it’s most popular game is super Mario world
>We’re never getting 90’s JRPGs ever again.
Good. I still haven't played all of them.
>they will never make tasty buttered popcorn of this type again
>good! i have a lot in my pantry
moron logic
>Overexplanation of simple mechanics
Didnt chrono trigger have like a 40 minute tutorial you could take?
>40% of tge game being cutscenes
This is chrono trigger too
>could take
>could
>as in you don’t have to
Meanwhile Xenoblade 3 is still force feeding you tutorials 25 hours into the game because it assumes you’re moronic.
>A game having long ass tutorials is bad
>Ah sorry I meant only if they are OPTIONAL you know, so if its your first time playing the game you have to take it so you dont miss anything the game MIGHT have
Lol.
you're laying on the troony snark too thick to the point of incoherence
If you aren’t moronic, you don’t need to take the tutorial. You have the option
How else would I know about the super complex positional """"mechanics""""" of chrono trigger?
That arent totally half baked, useless and tacked in.
Even Persona 1 did them better
You experiment and learn over time. You know that the post isn’t exclusively about CT right? I just used it for the picture but it seems to be all anyone can focus on
because it's hilariously ignorant to espouse chrono trigger as the quintessential 90s jrpg when in reality it is a huge departure from 90s jrpg design. you just look dumb man.
I didn’t say it was, I just grabbed an example of a 90s JRPG that I thought people would recognize
What games have you even played
the main lesson here is that the OP post was low-quality ragebait to begin with. the actual post was just a vague inflammatory statement which said absolutely nothing, yet you expected people to make your argument for you in the ensuing discussion. you failed because your added image made the already vague sentiment completely incoherent. it's obvious that that's the only thing people took away from it, there was no substance to the text anyway. i don't know if you really are a clueless fricking idiot who has no idea what he's talking about, but you made yourself look like it. make a better thread next time.
good threads slide to page 10 immediately, ragebait is the only thing that survives here
>Experiment and learn over time
>You know that the post isnt about ct?
You tried to specifically defend CT mh saying some stupid shit about the tutorial.
Suck my ass
But alright we are experimenting, now tell me, how do you unlock more Limit Breaks in FF7? You arent a moron, you should know without looking it up online right?
I don’t think you’re understanding what’s going on. Have you played any other 90’s JRPG or are you just going to keep raging about this one?
You instantly discredited your entire argument. Deleting the thread is your option.
How is it discredited?
>nu Ganker is filtered by rpgs
fricking GRIM
The worst part is JRPGtards with no self-awareness who think the casual slop that they're passively gobbling down is a real RPG and that it might filter anyone. Fricking moron lol, frick outta here.
I'm not even a super huge JRPG guy but talking about "deep combat systems" in reference to 90s JRPGs is fricking laughable. What game do you even have in mind that's supposedly so complex and deep?
FF8 and Chrono Cross seem to set people off for being too complex
Nah, those games are actually good.
CT just isnt.
Okay, well this post is about JRPGs that came out in the 90’s, so it includes them as well
It’s alright. It’d be better with fewer cutscenes and no voice acting
turn off voice volume
>We’re never getting 90’s JRPGs ever again
we just got 90s jrpgs the other year, crosscode
>We’re never getting 90’s JRPGs ever again
Maybe, who knows
However, I am pretty certain you did not play them all as in you missed out on some gems somewhere
Enjoy going through the old libraries and let the modern goyslop kill itself
This thread is a perfect example of why we can't have good things anymore, kids today HATE the idea of having fun and would rather tribal post instead of play a damn game.
Lmao chrono trigger sucks ass just face it
I'd rather beat Battletoads in Battlemaniacs if I wanted a fun SNES game
Yes exactly, a solid example of what a child today does in their free time. This world is fricked.
>Noo toads make me feel insecure
Imagine being a boomer, born in the era of hard games, and sucking at vidya
couldn't be me
Final Fantasy 6 was better and I love Chrono Trigger
FF6 actually is overrated. It's not even as good as FF5.
>ff6 actually is overrated
More similar to CT than you think
no, ff6 is only half good
Hell no. CT has extremely barebones design, but what's there is mostly good. I'd much rather take that over FF6's actively shitty clusterfrick design.
Random encounters is cancer
>We’re never getting 90’s JRPGs ever again.
We could've gotten distilled kino in Americana Daen but the kickstarter failed and the core team then proceeded to either die or go insane.
>Daen
Dawn*
Is this like Persona 1 or what?
How does the combat work?
It underwent several changes but I think the core of it was that there was a timeline for character turns, some characters got to move faster depending on stuff like speed but you could do various things to hinder or boost other character positions on the timeline so their turn is either delayed or arrives faster.
Here's the trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFFf5xOFyr0
Speaking of Zeal, I feel like drawing porn of her, but it's wrong!
No shit it's wrong, draw Magus and Schala incest instead.
>draw Magus
no.
I don't want to draw Magus unless he's kneeling.
>Devs are too uncreative and scared to take risks
jrpgs take more risks now than in the 90s
audiences dont even want good rpgs
they just play gatcha games and other grindfests
also there's no way for a traditional rpg to stand out against the hundreds of thousands of other games now, in the 90s rpgs only had to stand out from about 30 other games per year, not to mention making an rpg is very expensive, and who's going to buy it? it's the end of your company if you make a big rpg without a dedicated audience, so only DQ and FF survive
>Devs are too uncreative and scared to take risks
SaGa Emerald Beyond came out a week ago.
Why does she have sex hair?
>the more token e-girl characters were phased out from the genre the worse it got
Coincidence?
why does every charecters face look the same.
Why are you a stupid newbie?
Should Queen Leene get more art?