A truly great FPS has not come out since 2020
Is FPS a dead genre
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We will get a Doom Eternal 2 this year. It will be called Doom Year Zero.
Id software will also reveal Hexen Remake.
>Hexen
I would be all over it, but still why the frick Hexen?
Phil seems to be a massive fanboy.
Also when they aquired ActiBlizz he namedropped it out of nowhere.
Do you trust it to not turn out utter shit?
Won't run on steam y
Hexen yeah!
I want a new quake game bros
i don't after seeing what they did to Doom
>guy in charge of doom shitternal proceeds to go on joe rogan and admits to playing with a controller on pc
>also gets defensive when asked about real multiplayer
if you can keep up, controller is fine.
>controller is fine.
here we go, the doom eternal audience in 1 post, my god how ID software and its games have fallen
/thread
It's singleplayer.
The game is SP, and there's only a little bit of AA (and gyro on PC and switch).
it's not a big deal.
>play DE on Switch
>get to use gyro aiming
Best of both worlds.
>play at 30fps with a resolution the size of a postcard
>have to use the weapon wheel, so no combos
Sounds dreadful.
It's fine when it's all you have. Also you can still quick-swap between two weapons.
My PC is for work, not gayming.
>It's fine when it's all you have
The Switchgay mentality.
and?
it's also the primary platform of DOOM.
There have been an explosion of indie FPS on steam, that's the current market.
>it's also the primary platform of DOOM.
Yep which is why I still play WADs on my PC, at least it can handle those.
gyro is even better on PC
Mouse is even betterer on PC.
yes, but he was mentioning gyro as a +, but gyro on PC has more features. (especially with flickstick, and alt-binds to get quickswaps)
Quake Eternal makes more sense than Doom Eternal. This game is clearly not Doom. I've resigned myself to the fact that my generation is dying off. Though I feel sad for the zoomers. They don't know better.
>Hexen
In the new Id engine, this will look phenomenal. If it has the same gameplay, it will be phenomenal. Holy crap, is the FPS back on the menu, boys?
commercial FPS has been on the menu since 2016.
if be down for a hexen remaster. idk about a remake though...
Male.
ID is not working on new Doom IP and if it isn't made by ID then it might as well not exist. They are working on a quake reboot.
>if it isn't made by ID then it might as well not exist.
The absolute state of Doom bootlickers
>We will get a Doom Eternal 2 this year. It will be called Doom Year Zero.
2 more weeks.
This year had Deadlink and Turbo Overkill. Good games.
Eviternity2 came out last month.
Also these
I don't like doom eternal. It's too hard for me even on lowest difficulty.
I like doom 2016.
I'm on Hurt Me Plenty, and it's giving me a challenge. Ultra-violence is off the table for me. Stressful, but fun.
how spooky is doom 2016/eternal? i finished doom3 years ago but honestly it was too stressful for me
not spoooky at all. pure carnage and fun
Think of it more like Hotline Miami fist only mode in first person and with demons
They're not spooky in the slightest, but they can be stressful in their own ways.
it gets hard depending on the difficulty but its not in any way spoopy like doom 3, which is like a different genre from all the other doom games
Wow, isn't that the badass LE DOOM SLAYA!?!? This is so epic and metal XD! le based dev god Hugo and his butt buddy le Marty want to EXPAND THE DOOM POWA FANTASY, uh, yayah!!! Shut up and take my money lmao 😛 THE DOOM SLAYA NOW HAS EXPOSED BICEPS OMGG!!!!!, I'm getting really horny!!!! Oh wow all wads are canon... wowow omg that means NUTS.WAD IS CANON OMG SO WACKY AND CUHHHRAZEH OMG DOOM SLAYA FIGHTING FOR AEONS OF TIME UHHHH MMMMM YESSSS THE ANCIENT DEMONS SAVED HIM UHHHH FEELS SO GOOD MMMM LORE EXPOSITION IM FEELIN REAL NICE!!!! MY PENIS HAS BEEN MEGASPHERED UHHHH *looks down at his shrivelled member and grabs it with a swipe from the side like an edgy DOOM SLAYUH cutscene* WOW, WHAT'S THIS?? HE STAYED IN HELL TO FIGHT THE DEMONS LIKE IN DOOM 64?!?!?! HOW BASED CAN ID GET?!! *starts stroking and making epic revenant AHHH meme noises* I-IS THAT A FLOATING QUESITON MARK AND EXTRA LIFE IN MY DOOM GAME, UH YYYYYYYESSSS!!!! *hand turns into a fricking mach 5 piston with iron man colors and a snoo decal* AHHHHHHH OH MY GOD HE IS AN ANCIENT WARRIOR AND LE ANCIENT CIVILIATION ALIENS LE ALIEN QUEEN AND VEGA ROAD TRIP THROUGH SPACE AAAHAAAHAHA IM COOOOOOMING AND CONSOOOOOMING REDDIT-TIER LOOOOOOOOORE!!!!!!!!11111 *wipes cum on doomguy amiibo and strokes 3d printed crucible he made from an r/doom tutorial while waiting out his refractory period by dressing up as doomgirl and posting it for karma then getting hard again because he read an epic marty strapon tweet about how mick gordon is farting into a mic for the third time to score the epic kar en kukold dlc*
The game has no atmosphere and its attempts at humour are not funny. It comes off as a slick corporate product, pandering and compromising for mass appeal. It won't have the longevity of the original Doom because it's a very hollow experience by comparison.
It won't have the longevity of the original Doom because it's not open source and doesn't have an easy-to-use map maker.
that's really what makes me sad about eternal, that a lot is left on the table when it comes to mods.
>boomers when you have to aim along the vertical axis now
>boomers when you need to jump and dash now that A/D is not enough to beat the strafeslop
shit for zoomers with ADHD
jumping has no place in Doom
>PRESS X TO KILL MONSTER
>zoomers numales and trannoids proceed shit and piss at the amazing gameplay
>boomers when ammo/health is no longer strewn all over for zero risk pickup
I'm playing turbo overkill
Try it
>mfw Doom 64 turned out to be the best Doom game
>Consoleslop
>best doom game
Embarrassing
>Doom64
>best
>missing the best enemies in the roster (revenants and archviles)
how?
Sadly the era where DOOM .wads was the only good source of FPS is forgotten.
It's spooky enough, and the lighting is amazing. Only after playing it I realized how Doom 3 was even dreamt up.
The combat sucks, it's too easy and spammy (mainly knights and barons)
I appreciated how creepy it was when I was a kid but it was too slow and methodical for a Doom game.
This sounds like something my younger sister would type.
blood west came out just last year
true kino
i watched yahtzee play it and it looked like complete shit
Do you not remember the great FPS drought of 08-16?
>Ads
>turret sections
>regenerating health
>2 weapon limit
>qtes
>sprint button
>it's another middle east monkeys with ak as your main enemy
Grim
Borderlands and wolfenstein carried that era HARD
Borderlands2 sucks, no fun enemies, just sponges.
BL2 is the best borderlands game
new world order/old blood are pure kino, even new colossus and i dont understand why ppl claim its not kino. fricking storygays i swear.
and it sucks
>even new colossus and i dont understand why ppl claim its not kino.
Played worse, borderline forced stealth sections, levels didn't naturally flow between eachother compared to previous. Felt like reaching a generic Doom end of level button.
>Played worse
>borderline forced stealth sections
wat
>levels didn't naturally flow between eachother compared to previous
everything is contextualized within the narrative just like the previous games
Borderlands was never good.
Ganker brain rot in action
>hur durr, Borderlands bad because silly dialogue *shits adult diaper*
No, borderlands is garbage.
I call it shit cause the gameplay is shit, not because of dialog.
Borderlands sucks, dickhead
no use trying to argue with contrariantrannies, if these games were small indie games they would be wanked over nonstop
wtf was that colourful disgrace? I can't handle that kind of shit at my age. why do all the games look the same now? god damn it
>hipfire sucks so bad that only spells are used (so much for the guns that are supposedly so good)
>jumping around to hide how slow you move without sprint
is this meant to be a W, indie games stomp this.
>indie games stomp this.
nah
absolutely, turbo overkill obliterates this.
come back when there are alt-fires and a real strafe speed.
that's why nobody talks about it lol
who is nobody, maybe not console players, but when mentioning fast-paced fps with PC players, it's mentioned all the time, and absolutely more than borderlands.
bro stop, i hadn't even heard of this game before this thread and i have 5000hrs+ on PC fps games
that's cause you're playing console FPS that use garbage like sprint and not fast PC fps.
my pb in devil daggers is 300, i play mobility shooters like quake, diabotical, tribes, and i never heard of your game lol
and then you argue for slow ADS+sprint shooters over shooters with actual speed you've never played.
a 6/10 fps is better than BL
TO is just ok
>garbage optimization
>endlessly cringey go there kill this do this
no
Played both nuDooms and the first was okay, Doom Eternal wasnt good. What are some actually good FPS games?
I like boomer shooters
>Cultic ( blood sequel we never got )
>Boltgun
>Ultrakill
>Turbo Overkill
My brother gifted me Viscerafest,Dusk and Hedon for christmass, can't wait to play them when I get home from holidays
make sure to check out mods too
if you like CULTIC, you will absolutely love deathwish.
Or Arcane dimensions for quake
And .wads have are basically a free (quality) boomershooter factory
>Boltgun
Act 3 and especially the last boss were such lower quality than the previous acts I had to force myself to finish it on Exterminatus.
I recently played through Nightmare Reaper. Gives the boomer shooter thing a roguelike twist and it's real fun if you get a fricked up weapon.
Turbo overkill
Boltgun
Deadlink
Trepang 2
Robocop
Prodeus
Ion fury aftershock
Roboquest
Beat the Doom Hunter base and the boss wasn't that bad. They literally eternally spawn zombies for you to farm but I had a few close calls and I kinda felt in the zone.
>boomers actually think this is good level design
Thank god Eternal is redefining the genre. It’s evolution. No more savescum shitscan key hunting corn mazes. Hopefully all FPS games from this point forward take inspiration from Doom Eternal like superior shooters like viscerafest, turbo overkill and devil daggers have done. Boomers, your time is over and done. The fun zone is the future.
>Thank god Eternal is redefining the genre. It’s evolution.
I mean it's pretty cool to have a Mario game where you can jump and shoot the goombas.
I understand time passes and things change, but the original doom had those kind of level designs because it came from D&D type of games, which are also very niche now. so now it seems like fun is super doomario 64. but I'm old and don't care anymore.
What per se is wrong with a maze or even a twisty linear corridor? Potentially could be great design, like going deeper and deeper into hell.
if you get confused by vanilla doom maps you are a brainlet. like yeah some fan maps are like this, but vanilla maps are very progressive and have plenty of hints
YOOOOOO DIS GAMEPLAY FIRE!!
Quake 2 remaster is literally better than Zoom Eternal
Who cares, Doom 2 with the community WADs is all you need.
My 40-something year old uncle that's been PC gaming most of his life couldn't get into Eternal. He said there was "too much going on."
that game sucks. fricking halo clone
Man has helmet, and gun?! AND HE ISN'T ON EARTH???
halo is a physics shooter with vehicle gameplay where there's no movement mechanics besides "run. walk. maybe sprint."
I honestly have no idea what happened to the singeplayer fps scene in he last 10 years. Doom at least came out (though personally I hated it) but I can count AA+ singleplayer shooters on one hand, and 40% of that is Doom
doom 2016 was better than eternal imo
far cry, borderlands, wolfenstein, sniper elite, sniper ghost warrior are all great althoughbeit
ZOOM eternal
NuDoom was made for non Doom fans, basically it was made for the fortnite audience but with even less aiming required
>less aiming
Have you ever actually played Doom? The aim assist in the old games was off the charts.
because there was literally no vertical aim, and after the new engines came out no one used it any more.
most importantly what old doom didn't have was QTEs to kill monsters, which is an incredibly pathetic thing to have in a game called "Doom", but so is parkour and yet here we are.
Show me a gif of the aim assist that you have experienced in Doom eternal, because the hitboxes seem pretty tight to me.
>QTEs
Is this a joke? Having to press a button during gameplay is a QTE? No, homosexual. That is not a quick time event. A quick time event is a button press that occurs during a cutscene.
>but so is parkour and yet here we are.
I always find it so strange cause even .wads have platforming.
Why are you such a gay with your fake problems
Game is a masterpiece
All these zoomers failing to troll boomers would frick cry and piss their pants jobbing on Quake 3.
>Doom Eternal
>truly great
If I want to play ADHD Brutal Doom I can just make a wad.
We splatoon now
>be me. almost 40yo boomer
>search info about games
>DLC
>DLC
>Remaster aka recicled garbage
>shameless dead horse beating
>DLC
>Mobile version
A friend of mine insist that this is the golden age of videogames. that there was never a better time than this on vidyia.
I fricking hate it.
Don't play games you hate.
I mean, ive had not trouble with AAA crap cause i don't buy it and play indies and mods instead.
> zoom eternal
> truly great
ultrakill mops the floor with DE
doom eternal at its best (keyword best) can match the fun of ultrakill, but its nowhere as remarkable / memorable because it still has very generic guns. it doesnt do anything groundbreaking, like UK having the only non-trash bossfights in the entire genre or the unique mechanics with the weapons
And replaying doom eternal just feels like a major snorefest, even when in combat and not in shitty cutscenes or platforming meme puzzles. Doing most master levels (except arc complex that level is simply kino) on nightmare after beating the campaign bored me to death already. UK too gets super easy on a replay but the quick fast action and just melting the shitty meme enemies feels a lot more satisfying and less chorey to the point people will want to do the P ranks, and then people will get to play the prime sanctums after these P ranks. combine that with uk's bigger arsenal variety and general skill ceiling (even if theres no much place to apply said skill outside of cybergrind and p-2 / act 3) and it just has so much lasting power
The only thing Ultrakill mops is the shit on the floor from anal dildo induced incontinence.
ywnbaw
There's that Mickey Mouse/Cuphead FPS on the horizon.
Is there a single indie shooter that hits the same gameplay balance as DE? I feel like Ultrakill is closest as far as tight-feeling combat encounter but it's more about just throwing out attacks while dodging and maneuvering than in-their-face constant offense like Eternal is. That's good too though
There are a lot of games with "nudoom inspiration" but I haven't played any that actually feel like eternal precisely
SW3 apes eternal the hardest.
Nope, but I discovered eternal has a level modding scene and I've been enjoying the cbt so far.
borderlands actually does blow though, the only reason 2 was anything even approaching passable was because gearbox stole money from another game they were supposed to be making lol
post your gameplay , turbo overkillgay
that wasn't me, but post borderlands with an actual strafe speed lol.
post your turbo overkill gameplay, gay
>have to ADS
>instantly slowed to a crawl
>have to use sprint anyways
better than i thought, i will admit, but still not very good.
Though what character allows this in BL2, cause it is still an improvement?
lol you stupid frick
keep crying, while not posting your indieslop gameplay that gets hard mogged
>try to ask about character that may actually have a real strafe speed. You may be able to sway me to try BL again.
>"frick you"
ok then lol, seems using sprint to hide mediocre strafe speed is what you do best.
Ok, any way to approximate? aren't the games similar enough?
why do you think i care what you play, lol
Cause wouldn't it be good to see more people like what you like, if you don't care, why argue for a games quality other than to feel better about yourself, which is a sad way to use this site.
you already claimed borderlands is worse than some game where you walk around clicking enemies. i bet you despise doom eternal because it plays very much like borderlands, and you can't just walk around with a shotgun oneshotting enemies and have to apply actual logic and strategy to succeed
I love eternal and it doesn't play at all like borderlands, it's more like an advanced quake.
and for the sake of argument, lets say that it did, i would be a version that fixed all my issues with the game.
>Real strafe speed (+ dashes), omni-directional evasion is much better than what i played in BL2 (which was super slow other than sprint)
>amazing and vibrant enemy roster (the enemies of BL2 feel like they can only challenge using more health and garbage design)
>real alt-fires, real weapons that allow you to focus on movement and speed, no need for ADS
So it doesn't really apply. BL stuff like elemental effects are not the issue, it's the movement and shooting part that's an issue.
BL is much more about build crafting than about being a mobility shooter. You can make a mobility build and just run around with a shotgun if you want but it's suboptimal to creating a build around some specific legendary weapon
>no need for ADS
you basically never ADS in actual endgame borderlands, it plays like a mobility shooter where you kite the pack of enemies around the map and jump and weave around the projectile spam while focusing weak enemies to proc your cooldowns etc. that's why it's similar to D:E
If that's the case, i never got near to that point.
I'm not super willing to just "stick" with a game when it feels like im stuffed with good indies. After the 16 hours i played (idk how much that even is for BL2, it seemed like it wasn't much cause i was dicking around a fair bit, but i don't stick with games waiting for them to be good), i was really not having any fun.
Lets say you were playing Turbo overkill (sticking to this game, even though i only used it cause it was what first came to mind lol), and after 10 hours, you hated it, you would be right to trash the game for all time.
BL2 is the best game in the franchise in terms of endgame imo (not the gameplay) but it doesn't really start until you get to TVHM which you need to beat the game 2 or 3 times to unlock but once you know what to do you can just knock the base campaigns out the way in a few hrs. I played BL2 for about 70 hours and I was at lvl 72 (max) and TVHM, I think it still had some prestige levels or something to unlock but I was kinda done at this point.
if i have to play a game 3 times to get to the good gameplay i want. It's basically never going to happen without a save editor. (and i'm maybe too lazy for even that).
Maybe years ago (before DOOM2016) when other than some DOOM and quake mods, there was no classic style FPS to play (and playing just mods gets old, so you need to break it up with new FPS), so any way to get that kind of gameplay, but now, i can be very picky.
Is BL3 better about it? cause it does look a bit better, but i trusted Ganker when they said BL2 was better.
the way you unlock endgame in BL3 is by just beating the base campaign once and then you toggle on mayhem levels which add modifiers and other crap, i agree BL2's campaign forcing was probably my least enjoyable aspect but overall it's alright because i didn't hate the campaign unlike BL3 where the campaign is full of HL-esque forced in game cutscenes where you have to wait for the insufferable characters to stop talking until you can carry on. whereas with BL2 much of the story was conveyed via the floating hologram face and people radioing you while you're blasting enemies.
to be honest the endgame in tiny tina's wonderlands aka the BL3 spinoff is more enjoyable to me, its like the bloody palace of DMC, i forgot the actual setup for endgame in BL3 but it didn't appeal to me nearly as much as bl2
I'm not sure if i can beat something worse than BL2's campaign, i already gave up on BL2.
Why can't the normal campaign just be good as is (this is more something im asking the world), cause despite me calling BL a slow console FPS, i do try to be open minded when playing new FPS. But i'm not sure i feel like blowing 20$ just to be sad again.
on PC you can delete some .pak files and the engine will simply skip dialog and i used that for about half of wonderlands, supposedly the same works for BL3 but i'd only recommend that if you're desperate on playing the game and just hate the story, and it sounds like you're not that desperate to play the games
The dialog is less the issue (it's cringey, but i can tolerate that), it's the gameplay, maybe i am doing something wrong, but it fails to deliver any fun (for the reasons described), and it seems if i want fun from BL, i need to play 40-60 hours. (which is doing it 3 more times) of an unfun game. (and ive dropped games for not being fun in 3-5 hours)
BL3 plays a lot faster than BL2 from the get go so you might like it, the gunplay and movement in general is also less jankier than BL2. I'd say pirate it or play <2hr on steam, unless I misunderstood and you already did.
i have not tried BL3 yet, when i first thought about getting into BL, i was torn between 2 and 3 and i trusted that 2 was better cause Ganker told me so.
And i may do that (if not now, next sale)
frick, the sale just ended.
moron that's not borderlands 2
Eviternity II is basically done (in RC) and it's at least 5-10x better than Round Arena Monkeybars: Weapon Roulette Edition.
What a fricking watch mojo cuck. Do you even play videogames?
Pic rel literally the best evolution of shooter gaming after quake and cs. I'm even ashamed to bring this up in the thread about the asset flip of a reboot. Fricking hell...
>troonyKill
>Good
>Rent free
>Ultrakill
it's decent enough if you are looking for something to synch your anal dildo to.
>cs
>evolution
>the game that was created by slowgays filtered by arenashooters to casualize and make fps more accessible
>evolution
least intelligent larpergay
Give me a proper blood sequel
I have been on a boomer/retro shooter spree at the moment
Any games youd recomend?
Sticking to older style ones.
>Arcane dimentions is an easy rec.
>Ancient aliens is DOOM2 at it's peak.
>Hellforged is a great one.
>REKKR is nice (the first three episodes are free)
for newer ones (trying to not just say ultrakill)
>Metal Hell singer is nice
>turbo overkill is a good recent one
Is it silly that I want to unlock Doom 1 and II in Eternal even though I literally already own the anniversary releases?
A little silly
True. Thanks for giving it to me straight.