>absolutely loved Medieval total war 1
>cant stand every modern TW game
Is it my nostalgia googles or the genre peaked in MTW1?
>absolutely loved Medieval total war 1. >cant stand every modern TW game
>absolutely loved Medieval total war 1
>cant stand every modern TW game
Is it my nostalgia googles or the genre peaked in MTW1?
I loved how the trait system in the game worked with regular generals as well as family members
There was one trait called 'Merciful', which you could you could rank up if you regularly set free Prisoners of War, which would reduce enemy morale. I found that kind of stuff pretty fun
How do you feel about shogun 1?
MTW2's chivalry and dread system have a similar effect.
Not him but I think Shogun 1 is perfect in terms of aesthetics and is the superior STW, but MTW got so much right in terms of being a sequel with no regressions.
Liking both is a preference for that style of game and less the nostalgia, especially if you can still play them.
Personally I can't deal with the UI and low resolution.
I play both games at 1920x1080 since the re-release. I always used to play RTW and M2TW with the minimal UI anyways. The secret to the first two games is to use RMB for panning your camera in first person like the Warscape titles and using wasd to move around.
>re-release
Looks like I've been out of the loop for a bit. Really loved MTW, and am a bit narked that it's been broken for years - at least on my rig. Ah well, off to sail the seven seas, yarrrr!
Ah damnit it's still fuxx0red
Was it the steam release specifically? That's the one with compatibility fixes and widescreen support. It works for me on Win7-11 but I haven't tried it on Linux yet.
I don't think so. It came as an iso, which suggests not. Have looked for a steamrip, but not came up with anything specific.
I'm pretty sure the steam version is DRM free, I can upload it at some point.
If it'll play on Win10/32GB/16TB storage/ATI6700 I'll spring for the 7 bongbucks it costs. Feels a bit annoying that I have the original CDs here tho.
The original CDs probably work fine with Wine. Also make sure to go to "Total War Medieval 1 GoldTexturesMenItemsShield2" and rename SpanishJinettes to SpanishJinetes because CA left a typo in the game files for 20 years that make their shields invisible.
it is drm free
you can try it
https://www.mediafire.com/file/43z0r9ikuz6vku0/Total_War_Medieval_1_Gold.7z/file
Much obliged anon, will give it a go.
Looks to me like you might not even need the Steam version:
https://www.moddb.com/games/medieval-total-war/downloads/medieval-total-war-v11-patch
nevermind i'm moronic
Thanks for the linksbreh
Heres the guide to play MTW and STW for modern OS that ive found
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This, the old trait system is fantastic and incredibly immersive. I love seeing my generals develop as they wage their campaigns, eventually becoming old alcoholized men administrating cities in the interior.
RIP to my real homie generals who helped an autistic teen conquer Spain
The music is also kino.
the main menu song is stuck in my head to this day everytime someone mentions medieval TW games and i didnt even play that game that much.
It peaked with first Shogun, series was on downright spiral ever since.
i love campaign map (it easier to have battles with your allies) and that sometimes dead factions back into game. kino game. i wish they made this game avaible on android/ios not shitty rome
The abstract pixel-based battle engine and province-based movement on the campaign map meant most of the programming work went into non-graphics things, resulting in robust AI and gameplay, with very little buggy behavior.
I edited the game files to have the ottoman muskets fire like machineguns with explosive bullets. I also boosted the clerics conversion power to hoyohoyo levels.
>Is it my nostalgia googles or the genre peaked in MTW1?
It peaked with Rome (the first one).
absolute 100% nostalgia goggles
historical TW peaked with Shogun 2
go back
Is there a word for games with 2d sprites moving around in a 3d landscape? I swear these games are the peak of rts, units rarely glich out on the terrain like 3d models do.
No, but you should play Myth: TFL and Myth 2 if you haven't before.
>20 bazillion spies failing to kill one meeple
YES
No, I just replayed Medieval 1 and 2 and it's crazy how much better of a game 1 is.
I like how you can retreat to castles, unlike in PDX games where armies can't seek shelter from forts.
Total war discussion:
>oh you like Warhammer III, what a fricking normie playing a game made for babies, l prefer the older Total War games, the series truly peaked with Three Kingdoms
>oh you like Three Kingdoms, what a fricking normie playing a game made for babies, l prefer the older Total War games, the series truly peaked with Attila
>oh you like Attila, what a fricking normie playing a game made for babies, l prefer the older Total War games, the series truly peaked with Shogun 2
>oh you like Shogun 2, what a fricking normie playing a game made for babies, l prefer the older Total War games, the series truly peaked with Medieval 2
>oh you like Medieval 2, what a fricking normie playing a game made for babies, l prefer the older Total War games, the series truly peaked with Shogun 1
and then us empirechads are over here conquering the entirety of france on the first turn as the brits. vgh
>Oh you like Empire, what a fricking normie playing a game made for babies, l prefer the newer & improved Total War game, the series truly peaked with Napoleon
napoopan was better, but i loved empires colonialism
NTA but same here, I can acknowledge Napoleon was better even if I think Empire is more interesting
Anon nap came after emp
I did say newer, my man
You've never played the first two games. They are very different.
>the series truly peaked with Three Kingdoms
said no one ever
It had the best sound design, the best visual design, the best implementation of cavalry (where you can actually stampede on helpless infantry), and the best campaign map.
TW clearly did peak with 3 Kingdoms but then it was abandoned and DLC made bugs appear.
anon what are you talking about the bugs were always there
Welcome to Ganker, enjoy your stay
Ganker*.
well, its not that any of this statements is wrong
It's just a fact. With every engine iteration of Total War, gameplay gets worse. Of course for most people the peak is usually whichever was the oldest (and usually first) game they played.
>the series truly peaked with Medieval 2
Only memers claim that
OP try attila, one of the few new tw games that actually holds up
I've played literally every other TW game except Medieval 1. Is it still worth playing today? What sets it apart from the later games?
1) Do you enjoy Shogun 1?
2) Do you want is being turned into a meh/10 clone?
If both flag "yes", then you shoulld try it. Otherwise - you aren't missing anything of value, especially since you already played Shogun 1 and thus know the engine
med 1 have plenty mods tho
nah, even shogun 2 is old and shit
It's your nostalgia googles. That game was dumbed down Shogun and opened spigot for all sort of shit that's plaguing the series ever fricking since.
You've clearly never played either game. Why post?
>If you disagree with moron OP, you never played the game in question
Original Shogun was a fun little game. Med 1 was meanwhile "hey, what if we overcomplicate everything for no real gain and also give everyone completely unbalanced unit roster", adding nothing of real value to the mix. Took them fricking forever to figure out this is not working out, and when they finally figured that out, they've just made Shogun 2, starting yet another decline of TW games ever since.
... yes, and...?
You still haven't convinced me.
No, it's you being contrarian for the sake of farming (You)s
I started up a campaign as the Lithuanians in XL mod. Any tips for early expansion?
I wonder why nobody do games similar to Med1/S1
>risk style or node style map
>tactical battles
>developing provinces/cities
>named leaders with stats(for every unit if possible)
They do.
It's just you being clueless homosexual not knowing them. And I'm not going to spoon-feed you
you again?
if you don't have anything worthwhile to say frick off
>Schizo is having an episode
Meds, now
Okay homosexual i am feeling generous today, open wide.
>Koei rotk/nobunaga ambition
>Grand Tactician Civil War
>Ultimate General/Admiral
>Oriental Empires
>Great War Western Front
>Steel Division 2
>Battlefleet Gothic Armada
>Dust Fleet
>Stardust Exile
>Chaos Galaxy
Inb4 those doesn't count because reasons
literally none of those play like STW
>risk style or node style map
>tactical battles
>developing provinces/cities
>named leaders with stats(for every unit if possible)
Literally all these points are present in every game from the list. And this is also why nobody wanted to spoonfeed your autism.
So you haven't actually played the games then, because Ultimate General is nothing like STW or MTW aside from having sprite units.
I knew that you were just shitposting but you are doing it in dumb way, like why you even behave like that anon? you are rude with no reason and then its apparent that you have no idea what you are talking about
in short, yeah they don't count because of good reasons and you should seek help(imb for its your cry for help)
Even if old TW are outdated, the new TW are not the better updated versions of the old ones, but they feel different, with different camapign flows and management of units. So a new total war can't scatch the itch and old tw can.
Since Shogun 2/Napoleon they've been going steeply downhill. It's not nostalgia, you can go back any play these games again and they are fun.
Incest was in medieval 1, they dropped it in every TW after.
Same as the immersive sprite and development system on campaign map, its not been in the games since Medieval 2.
>mfw me and my schoolfriend played a English campaign of this. I was the general, he was the king.
>I did the battles, he did the campaign map
>We made fake maps and letters with papers,pen and teabags
>We conquered the world with literal armies of peasants
Good times.
>be a long time RTW and M2TW player
>decide to try M1TW since people speak so highly of it
>CTD after intro cinematic
>fixes don't work
welp
Which version of MTW? The re-release or original?
re-release
Worked for me on Win7-11. Don't use any compatibility modes and try installing the old DirectX runtimes if you're missing them
https://download.microsoft.com/download/8/4/A/84A35BF1-DAFE-4AE8-82AF-AD2AE20B6B14/directx_Jun2010_redist.exe
try shogun
can upload no drm version if you want
please do. Anon's fix didn't work, unfortunately
https://www.mediafire.com/file/fo4c4zczqve9br4/Total_War_Shogun_1_Gold.zip/file
enjoy(if you can start it)
domo arigato gozaimasu
Anyone remember what the pre-warlord edition reinforcement system was? I don't remember nowadays but stumbled across some old posts about it. Also I find myself dropping my S2TW campaign to go back to the classic because of how much I dislike moving around the map in the new games.
>pre-warlord edition reinforcement system was
in Shogun 1?
you could either merge units or retrain them to full strength(you only paid for missing soldiers), you could would lose honor if you have higher than dojo where you retarin your troops but get also all upgrades(morale, armor, weapons and honor if your unit had less)
tip: if you play on large or huge unit sizes you actually spend 2 turns for training(but not retraining) them(instead of 1) which change whole gameplay flow(for the better)
>stumbled across some old posts about it
post it then
I think he's talking about in-battle reinforcements. I don't know anything about a change in Warlord Edition, but I do remember each unit would enter the map from a seemingly random direction. One from the east, one from the south, etc. Medieval I was a lot better in that regard.
not sure tbh but I don't think it was random - they were coming from the side of province they were coming from
maps for provinces were always the same - just direction of attack was changing
>post it then
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/107579-Original-vs-Warlord
anon
these posts are like from 2008 - 15 years old
interesting read but i wonder how much still apply to steam edition
Steam edition is Gold yet seems to use non-warlord balance with original power firearms and pre-nerf samurai archers based on checking the .txt stat files.
>Stardust Exile
Anyone have Medieval 2? Always wanted to try that.
Have you tried this?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/345260/discussions/0/3826425639845470341/
thanks, will do later
shogun work for you?
will try tomorrow, i'm heading out soon
How is BKB Super Mod? XL has been crashing on me and I've been thinking of trying it out.
its fine, nothing great
why xl is crashing on you? what os you have?
Shit, same with xl mod
Just adds unit, faction, and province bloat
Same problem modern tw has
>Is it my nostalgia googles
Its goggles and yes.
It's not though, med 2 sucks ass compared to the first game.
How Medieval Total War 2 players reacted to Rome 2 Total War is how I reacted when Rome 1 came out. Such a downgrade and terrible direction for the series. The tile system was clearly superior and the option to start in different period of Medieval times was great. The AI could handle the tile system better and was thus smarter compared to Rome 1.
pretty much
BAI was also much better, I think Med 1 BAI is the best one in whole franchise, Rome 1 BAI is so fricking dumb sometimes
I hate what this game did to guns but they're mostly inaccessible so it's irrelevant unless you try the Shogun mod. Solid game otherwise. I wish they kept a number of the mechanics in the future titles.
>guns
they are hand cannons anon and not arquebuses or muskets like in shogun(100 years later than end date of medieval 1)
you can always play Pike and Musket mod I guess
No. You just correctly understand the 3D map was a mistake.
pretty much
2d risk style map have its bad sides but it allow AI actually handle stuff better also it can lead to great battles
I really liked 3 tiered system in Genghis Khan(old KOEI game)
>strategic - risk style world map
>operational - with armies on province map during invasion
>tactical - actual battles
Honestly, the fact that after two decades the Ai STILL can't handle the 3d map does make me question if it was ever a good idea.
>I really liked 3 tiered system in Genghis Khan(old KOEI game)
I agree. That does sound like a pretty good way to handle it. Wish Total War would try something like that at least once.
%3D
This soundtrack makes me feel things I can't even fully comprehend.