Nobody cares about the moronic cinematic universe retcons.
Also if you actually played the first game then it's stated pretty clearly that he cant change whatever he wants, it has to make sense. Which is why also Casey makes no sense.
Sam Lake is a hack.
You take this as a sign of some grand conspiracy, when it's a mere logical move on behalf of minorities that are systematically oppressed and continue to experience bigotry and hatred based on their identity alone. Have you never read about Black Panthers, moron?
>Main (male) character is not the main character anymore >Side (female) character is now the main character and she's race-bent into being black >mfw Alan Wake 2 is a Netflix adaptation of Alan Wake's stories
But Ganker told me it was a flop and Remedy would shutter...
Literally get woke go broke.
When other game is selling double, triple their predecessor nowadays I don't think being your own fastest selling game is a noteworthy achievement, especially when it comes to Remedy.
Also fyi, this game cost almost 2.5 times more to develop than Control did.
So they at least need to triple the sales for it to be as profitable as Control, and 1.3mill copies is ain't it.
>Cost TRIPLE the Control.
damn sister, how big of a cut do those gays at sweet baby inc get for sitting in a writers room and doing frick all for a few days?
>already turning profit
Zero chance when most of its sales 100% glcame from when it went on discount kek.
Most likely it needs a few more months to really break even.
They literally say it isn't. >“The price point has also remained at a high level, and the game has already recouped a significant part of the development and marketing expenses.
It recouped a part of the costs. But it's still a loss at the moment.
But don't worry. I am sure this game will break even the moment they put it on Steam....Oh wait! That won't happen! Because its Epic published.
>Oh no no fandom menace sisters. Looks like we miscalculated, and picked the wrong the wrong game to randomly accuse of being LE WOKE to grift our moron audience
Love to fricking see it.
The funniest shit is, Saga's story literally culminates with her explicitly rejecting a false racially charged victim narrative
This. The only "woke" dialogue is the dark place preying on her fears and Saga counters it with the reality. They literally paint woke thought as a evil, capturing, and self-defeating mindset. It's really easy to tell who has and hasn't actually played the game. If they claim it's woke, they haven't played it to the end.
actually yeah
the game cost them over 100 million US dollars by just reconstructing their capex accounts so they're going to need quite a lot of sales here to break even
>If this is a flop then what was control?
Funny you say that, because Control was successful because of constant re-releases paid by platform owners and subscription deals.
They got paid by Amazon, Google, Sony for PS Plus monthly game, Microsoft for Game Pass every now and then and then there was Epic.
And 9th gen version was a separate game you couldn't upgrade to, coming from 8th gen version.
Google in general paid $5 million for Stadia ports btw.
Bro. The fricking dogshit SAINTS ROW reboot sold faster than that. And this is with the sales it already went on back in December.
Remedy is cooked lmao.
It's all laughs and games until they recon the Max Payne remake to fit their memeuniverse and delist the originals so you can only play the "improved" version.
Alan Wake. A. Wake. Awake. Awakening. The Great Awakening. The Great Reset. The Woke agenda. Wakanda.
Wake = Wakanda.
Alan. Anal.
Alan = Anal.
The Anal Awakening. The gay agenda. Anal wakanda. Chadwick Boseman. Ass cancer. Black gay anal sex. Buck breaking.
Alan Wake = Buck Breaking.
Saga Anderson MC of Alan Wake 2.
Sara Anderson. Half-black. White name. Racemixing. The offspring of the broken buck. The Kalergi Plan.
Saga Anderson Formerly White in Quantum Break. Raceswapping. Woke agenda.
Saga Anderson. MC of Buck Breaking Wakanda 2.Product of the woke agenda.
Buck breaking. Anal sex. Hemorrhoids. Blood. AIDS. Ass Cancer. Chadwick Boseman. Anal Wakanda. Anal Wokeness. Anal awakening. Anal Wake. A-Wake. Alan Wake.
>took longer than P3R >took longer than Infinite Wealth >took longer than Relink >took longer than Palword >took longer than Helldiver 2
Is this supposed to be impressive?
>original post is about budget >"why are you talking about that?"
For the record AW2 already has nearly unanimous good reception among those who played it which certainly doesnt include those who crusade against it because they have a political agenda.
CoD regularly sells almost as much as the aggregation of video game sales happening in your island of zipperheads yet it didn't get any awards so I fail to see why you would bring up Japan, sale numbers and awards.
ill be honest i dont know if this will even outsell control
remember control eventually came out on steam too
it has 40k reviews on steam that translates to like over a million sales
i have no fricking clue how alan wake 2 will keep selling that isnt just pity desperation sales
it was the only remedy game released in a long fricking time lol >release game >leave important lore and other cool bits in a NG+ bullshit free DLC 2 months down the line
get fricked morons, i'm not fricking around with your multi-media bullshit anymore just to deal with Alan Wake getting sidelined in his own fricking game
a reminder that saga has >more dialogue >more screentime >bigger maps >bigger inventory >more guns >more puzzles >charm gimmick
and the worst part >because it's the second game, we need a new Black person to be there and 'learn' how the dark place and everything works >because of this, they retread the exact same plot lines of Alan Wake 1 and it's DLC's with Alan 'realizing' he is forgetting days inside the dark place and that he needs to escape >can only escape because they made a brand new character who can just enter and leave the darkplace because his name is door >brand new character can enter the dark place, and be totally fine, do everything Alan can't and fricking makes herself an editor to Alan's story
what a fricking joke
I firmly believe that nobody who likes it has played or liked AW1.
Shills tried really hard to deny that Saga is more prominant in the game. Also a reminder that the lore is severely rewritten and the fricking game ends by solving nothing.
Good luck getting another sequel in 10 years morons, lmao
I firmly believe that nobody who likes it has played or liked AW1.
Shills tried really hard to deny that Saga is more prominant in the game. Also a reminder that the lore is severely rewritten and the fricking game ends by solving nothing.
Good luck getting another sequel in 10 years morons, lmao
it was the only remedy game released in a long fricking time lol >release game >leave important lore and other cool bits in a NG+ bullshit free DLC 2 months down the line
get fricked morons, i'm not fricking around with your multi-media bullshit anymore just to deal with Alan Wake getting sidelined in his own fricking game
a reminder that saga has >more dialogue >more screentime >bigger maps >bigger inventory >more guns >more puzzles >charm gimmick
and the worst part >because it's the second game, we need a new Black person to be there and 'learn' how the dark place and everything works >because of this, they retread the exact same plot lines of Alan Wake 1 and it's DLC's with Alan 'realizing' he is forgetting days inside the dark place and that he needs to escape >can only escape because they made a brand new character who can just enter and leave the darkplace because his name is door >brand new character can enter the dark place, and be totally fine, do everything Alan can't and fricking makes herself an editor to Alan's story
what a fricking joke
I loved Alan Wake 1 (read all the tie in comics and the prequal web series) and love Alan Wake 2. Cope you fragile homosexuals lmao
It's fricking hilarious how none of Ganker has any functional fricking memory of Alan Wake 1 much less Control.
Alan Wake committed suicide launching right next to fricking RDR1 but it had strong ass legs and ended up being successful in the long run. Likewise Control also had a really long tail.
And yet Alan Wake 2 is being put under much more scrutiny for arbitrary and inane reasons.
Because the game is old as frick. Remedy took too fricking long to release 2 and they fricked themselves by making it an EGS exclusive. this is hardly worth the praise for selling a mil copies.
>People are still calling the game woke when the game jokes about the writer rewriting the heroine into a negress so it's more "liked" AND has the only other Black folk act like moronic baboons and thieves in the first hour of the game
It went for like 20 bucks 2 weeks post launch when the winter sales had started, so them selling 1.3m copies doesn't seem meaningful in any way. there's a good reason they haven't recovered dev and marketing costs.
I watched (yes) the start of this game and i'm like how the frick are all of you stomaching this humor. I haven't seen any comments about it even though every line out of each characters mouth is more cringe anything in life is strange ever was
>A triple A single player survival horror game that isn't Resident Evil sold well
You know this is a good thing right? am I the only one glad a horror game sold well? do you know how fricking rare that is? big budget horror games almost always flop Resident Evil being one of the few exceptions
And Ganker is mad that AW2 did well? feels petty as shit.
Ganker has literally turned itself into a politics-aligned board to the point it looks for politics in games where it isn't even there, and I know from fricking experience given I used to try and suggest horror games this place would like only to get a hundred fricking "WOKE" posts in a couple of minutes.
Ganker doesn't want the horror genre to do well, no matter what morons here may say in those shitpost threads they make daily. They just want more drama to jerk off over.
>B-But other games!
So fricking what? AW2 sold well the devs are happy about it. that's what matters here. and we will get more AW in the future. time to admit you lost Ganker
It hasnt even broke even yet. And there's no shot this'll have the same tail as Control when it wom't even have the "NOW OUT OM STEAM" marleting hype later this year.
>Oh yeah, I'm sure it's super difficult.
Your example literally proves it is.
Yakuza spent over a decade failing to achieve any success beyond Japan. That's why the PSP games, Kenzan, and up until recently Ishin never saw a western release. That's why they almost scrapped the whole western side of the series until enough fans asked loudly enough for Y5 digitally.
Yakuza 8 is the culmination of Sega paying a shitton of ecelebs and giving out as many review codes as possible with 0, and then working their ass off to ride the subsequent popularity wave with 3 remakes, 2 new games, a spin-off series with 2 games, and 3 remasters in the span less than 7 years.
>The company name has been around for a long time
How many employees at the studio are, and how much does it matter when times have changed since 2000s.
How many "industry veterans" ended up making failures? Fricking simpleton.
name one full price single player only game made by a "literal who" studio that sold more than AW2, how out of touch do you have to be to think 1mil is nothing lmao, someone else said Tlou2 was a flop because it sold 11 million in 2 years, this board is just moronic sometimes
>Alan Wake went on sale instantly so it actually mostly sold 30-45 buck copies >it sold 1M DESPITE Gamepass >no one even knew Nexon was behind Dave
Frick it. Let's add Atomic Heart as well.
AW2 didn't go on sale before February, what happened in December is a EGS 33% off coupon that can be used on ANY game, not a sale, and the coupon wasn't on PS5 or xbox where it sold most
>Alan Wake went on sale instantly so it actually mostly sold 30-45 buck copies
Literally not true. Epic had a christmas sale and you could get whatever percentage off any game of your choosing. AW2 is not an has never been on sale.
>it sold 1M DESPITE Gamepass
Getting on gamepass is a huge advertising boost, moron. People buy games on gamepass to support developers all the time.
>no one even knew Nexon was behind Dave
Yeah, and that was kind of the fricking point of the games' marketing campaign.
This actually might be one of the lowest selling GOTY nominees if all time. Jesus.
>zoomer confused by the fact that a videogame's quality does not correlate with popularity
Guess Five nights at freddies and Fifa should win every year then, huh?
??????????????
Here’s what it says: >name one full price single player only game made by a "literal who" studio that sold more than AW2
We did that. (You) LOST.
none of those are full price except ACVI, which is not made or published by a "literal who" studio, dumb ESL moron
3 months ago
Anonymous
>none of those are full price
Really…? So, what is “full price”? $60…? >of cours-
Alan Wake 2’s full price is $50 on PC. >…
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes full price is $60, Alan wake is just that on all platforms except PC, concession not accepted obviously because you lost miserably
3 months ago
Anonymous
Oh okay okay sure, let’s go with that. I wonder why the Epic Games Store has a reduced price… oh wait! It’s because they published the game…
Huh, I didn’t know that EPIC INC was a “literal who” studio… maybe you meant to type developed?
3 months ago
Anonymous
maybe read the post i was replying to when i said that before you embarrass yourself like this? crazy to think this whole discussion would have been avoided if you weren't a moronic ESL who can't read >Remedy are industry veterans. There are more literal who studios that reach 1M sales faster and without the journo TGA circlejerk.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>m-maybe if you read-ACK!
I did read your post, here
none of those are full price except ACVI, which is not made or published by a "literal who" studio, dumb ESL moron
Oh no no no… >wait!!! I meant my original post!!!
Oh, this one…?
name one full price single player only game made by a "literal who" studio that sold more than AW2, how out of touch do you have to be to think 1mil is nothing lmao, someone else said Tlou2 was a flop because it sold 11 million in 2 years, this board is just moronic sometimes
>made by a literal who studio
I gave you an example with ACVI, to which you then deflected and specified (saying along the lines of): >no no no no noooooo that doesnt count! that was published by bandai namco!!! give me a full price game [later clarified to be $60] PUBLISHED by a literal who studio!
Not a good look here…
3 months ago
Anonymous
>he thinks From Software is a literal who studio
Oh I'll name a one too then, call of duty! we sure showed xer
3 months ago
Anonymous
Oh okay okay okay, so the creators of MAX FRICKING PAYNE are a literal who studio, but the random dipshits that made that Dave the Diver game the other anon mentioned are world renowned? >no no nooo them making Max Payne doesn’t count because they then only made dogshit games after that!
3 months ago
Anonymous
>max payne
Where do you think you are? Is this 2005?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>>it doesn’t count because they only made dogshit games after Max Payne!!!!
Okay? Fromsoft hasn’t made a good game since Last Raven, and Obsidian hasn’t made a good game since Planescape Torment. That doesn’t suddenly make them literal who studios. You want to know an actual literal who studio? PocketPair. Their oldest game is like 6 years old and literally NO ONE played their games or heard of them until Palworld came out.
3 months ago
Anonymous
What the frick are you on about lol
All I am saying is that Max Payne has no relevance at all in todays market
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody said they're a literal who you fricking moron, the entire point is that NO they're not being outsold by "literal who" studios under the same circumstances which is what that anon was saying, and the fact that you can't name a single game proves that, also dave the diver is published and develop by the largest Korean gaming studio you fricking pleb, maybe actually play videogames before posting
3 months ago
Anonymous
Now explain Brotato, Needy Girl Overdose, Lies of P, Atomic Heart and Dredge.
These are the most literal fricking who indies.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>dirt cheap, not full price >dirt cheap, not full price >gamepass >gamepass >dirt cheap, not full price
read homie READ
3 months ago
Anonymous
None of them had the entire fricking journo industry slobber on their dicks for weeks on end. MILLIONS of people saw the meme musical. Epic made a fricking Fortnite collab and event for this. They BEGGED people to buy it with all the sales in Winter.
Jesus lad. The fact that we're even using literal whos as comparison points to fricking REMEDY is embarassing.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Epic made a fricking Fortnite collab.
They sure did, I've gotten plenty of victory royales with him too!
3 months ago
Anonymous
…that’s because “literal who” studios DONT SELL THEIR GAMES FOR $60. (Alan Wake 2 didn’t even do this for the ENTIRE PC MARKET)
Also Alan Wake 2 might as well have been $30 full price considering it has been on sale for that amount like every other week since a month after its release ROFL
>Yakuza 8 broke a mil in less than a week
Oh yeah, I'm sure it's super difficult.
>CoD, HALO, FIFA and Yakuza always sell millions so every game must
You literally don't know what the frick you're talking about. There are hundreds of games released every day. For every game that sells a million, there are thousands of games that don't even sell ten fricking copies. Watching you morons get completely mindraped, because your e-daddies lied to you about the game being le woke and le bad, and being puzzled that functional adults don't give a frick what some morbidly obese britbong CHAV thinks is good or bad writing.
name one full price single player only game made by a "literal who" studio that sold more than AW2, how out of touch do you have to be to think 1mil is nothing lmao, someone else said Tlou2 was a flop because it sold 11 million in 2 years, this board is just moronic sometimes
TLOU2 actually was a financial flop, because it's budget was completely out of control.
>Remedy's fastest selling game!!! >only sold 1.3 million copies in this entire time despite all the journo and industry shilling and forced meme dance >meanwhile some literally who games get 1 million in the first week
I like how they always need to specify it in some way to make even look like anything special. Really is a reason to celebrate, good on them for doing... kinda average?
Remedy just makes remedy games, aw2 isn't really horror.
Anyway the sales are a bit low considering the games quality level, its on egs which lowers the marketing potential so maybe its not that unsurprising.
and yes Ganker is shit, please close down the board and ban the 3rd world from Ganker
>Remedy just makes remedy games, aw2 isn't really horror.
If AW2 isn't horror, neither is Resident evil or Silent hill. Horror is more of an aesthetic anyway.
>Anyway the sales are a bit low considering the games quality level
Consider the fact it's a sequel to a 13 year old game that didn't sell very well in the first place in a genre that's not very popular, it's trapped on the Epic game store, the budget (including marketing) is only around 50-60 million range, and then consider the fact that the 1,3 mil is only in the first two months and i'd say it's doing pretty fricking good.
Control had 50-60mil budget and aw2 looks way better in every way so I'd be very surprised if the budget was that low
They did sell the game for 36€ during holidays on pc to boost the sales, and the 1.3mil is from 4 month period. If people didnt buy it on sale by now after geoff award hype I can't expect the game to get much more sales on pc.
Control was on gamepass so maybe thats a way to boost the numbers further.
>Control had 50-60mil budget
Wrong, Control was actually 30 million dollar game. https://archive.is/v7ska
>They did sell the game for 36€ during holidays on pc to boost the sales
Epic had a seasonal sale to draw people in to their launcher and they ate the cost, Remedy still got paid the full 60$. You think they can just arbitrarily drop the price of any game without compensating the developers? That's not how any of this works.
>and the 1.3mil is from 4 month period.
Sauce? OP's screenshot explicitly says AW2 sold 50% more in the first two months than Control did in 4 months.
Literal who indie games sell 1 million faster than Anal Woke 2 [...].
Yeah, and there are 10 of those survival crafting games released every week that don't sell a 100 copies in years.
>Remedy announces sales information for Alan Wake 2
Alan Wake 2 was released in October 2023 to worldwide critical acclaim, earning a Metacritic score of 89 at launch. Today, Remedy Entertainment Plc (“Remedy”) announces that Alan Wake 2 has sold 1 million units by the end of December 2023, and 1.3 million units as of the beginning of February 2024. Alan Wake 2 is Remedy’s fastest selling game so far.
>By comparison, Alan Wake 2 sold over 50% more copies and over three times more digital copies in its first two months than Control did in its first four months. Since its release in 2019, Control has sold over 4 million units, generating net revenue (shareable revenue between Remedy and a publishing partner, excluding taxes and platform fees) of approximately EUR 100 million. A great game can generate excellent long tail sales, and we expect this to be the case with Alan Wake 2 as well.
AW 2 is a walking simulator that pretends to be a horror game.
Resident Evil is an action game with actual gameplay that has horror elements.
Silent Hill is an atmospheric/tense horror game with subpar gameplay.
That's nice.
I actually like Control, Alan Wake, their whole little series. I think it's a fun horror series and Control was an unexpectedly competent SCP-themed game and PSI simulator (female protagonist was super annoying though. Really aggressively dislike where they feel they seemingly *need* to write every female character as a c**t who constantly makes unfunny, annoyed, snarky remarks to themselves about every-fricking-thing). I'm glad to hear they're seeing some success.
I'm still not gonna download Epic. It could be free and I still wouldn't download Epic.
I'm gonna wait for it to launch on Steam.
>female protagonist was super annoying though. Really aggressively dislike where they feel they seemingly *need* to write every female character as a c**t who constantly makes unfunny, annoyed, snarky remarks to themselves
moron did you even play Control? I had the opposite problem, I thought Jesse was a goody two shoes that instantly liked everyone 10 seconds after meeting them and was too eager to help the shady organization that kidnapped her brother. I'd actually prefer it if she was a distrustful b***h as it'd make more sense for her character. Instead she's like "aww the poor little feds are getting killed by the Hiss, we must help them Polaris! " her quips were mostly self-deprecating. Like 99% of this board you have zero understanding of nuance and just want to complain about female characters
>moron did you even play Control?
No, like 99% of nu-/v/. It's nothing but favelaBlack folk mad that they can't run a game made in 2023 on a graphics card that was almost obsolete middleware in 2015, and inventing excuses as to why the grapes are sour and they didn't want them anyway. The quality of this board is honestly the worst it's ever been. Motherfrickers literally don't understand that financial success is measured relative to how many games you sold vs the investment needed to ship the product, unironically making EA/Activision-tier statements like >if your game isn't selling CoD/FIFA/Minecraft/Asscreed numbers, why was made at all?
Once again, that was a seasonal sale that Epic offered in an attempt to draw people to their store and ate the cost on with their fortnite money, Remedy still got paid the full 60$.
sick of this shit in all forms of media. only gays care about the sales of a game, or box office of a film, you aren't getting paid, you aren't a shareholder, you should only care about if you enjoyed playing the game and found value in the time you spent on it jesus christ
The funniest shit is when they don't even understands the basic principles of business.
>still got paid the full 60$.
Who knows what the publishing agreement is besides "epic will pay something to remedy after sales exceed development costs"
You are actually right, Remedy certainly aren't getting the full 60$. I just googled it, and the standard cut Epic slices off per sale is 12%, but considering it's an EGS exclusive and they published it, it's probably something like
>we take 50% until the development costs are covered, after that it's 8-10% per sale
Epic takes 100% until costs are covered then it reverts to 50/50.
https://www.gamedaily.biz/epic-launches-new-publishing-program-with-50-50-profit-sharing-for-developers/ >once costs are recouped, developers earn at least 50% of all profits
>“Epic Games Publishing will cover up to 100% of development costs, from developer salaries to go-to-market expenses such as QA, localization, marketing, and all publishing costs,” Epic said in a press release. “Developers earn a fair share for their work — once costs are recouped, developers earn at least 50% of all profits.”
Seems better deal than what they had for control
>On May 3rd 2017, Remedy announced the signing of a publishing agreement with Digital Bros S.p.A. regarding the Control game, and disclosed Remedy to receive 45% of game sales net revenue. The revenue share is calculated from net sales, which takes into account deductions such as retail and marketing costs of the game. Once the game starts to sell and before paying the game developer, the publisher is typically allowed to deduct upfront specific costs, such as manufacturing and distribution costs of physical game copies as well as marketing costs.
3 months ago
Anonymous
ye Epic's publishing terms are actually very good. If they had done stuff like that from the beginning and not tried to poach a bunch of exclusives off Steam, EGS wouldn't be nearly as hated.
sick of this shit in all forms of media. only gays care about the sales of a game, or box office of a film, you aren't getting paid, you aren't a shareholder, you should only care about if you enjoyed playing the game and found value in the time you spent on it jesus christ
I care about AW2 selling well for two reasons
One It means will likely get more Alan Wake games in the future.
and two it means there's a chance will see more survival horror games on the market.
Well its sufficiently critical hit that sales matter less.
Remedy is already developing more stuff in the cinematic universe, they're not going under anytime soon.
How is it not? everything you'd expect from a classic survival horror game like silent Hill or Resident Evil game is present in AW2 besides the fixed camera
Selling your game is a life and death situation for studios nowadays
Okay, my point is that i'm sick of seeing the discussion around this game being focused around sales figures and imaginary woke boogeymen. I really enjoyed it but it's an anomaly. All of Remedy's games are anomalies (except Quantum Bore) and they all sell reasonably well. All I need to know is if the story will continue, I don't care otherwise.
Also no way this will spawn more survival horror games, considering the mechanics of a good survival horror game are only here in a barebones state because it all takes a backseat to Sam Lake going full autist. The best you're getting is whatever comes of the Silent Hill 2 Remake, indie slop and another 50 RE games.
Once again, EGS is informational black hole even with media shilling and fawning over "GOTY" game
They probably wouldn't even make to 2 millions by the end of the year, it's quite literally over
I still don't understand why Ganker seems to hate this game so much when compared to all the other shit out on the market.
At least this game was made with a clear vision made by a creator who clearly loves what he made.
This isn't like the Suicide Squad where it was made by people who hate what they worked on.
You'd think Ganker would be happy a director got to make his own dream project instead of some licenced shit or live service crap.
Why should I care about "MUH AUTEURS"?
The entire initial climax of the game with Saga in the Mind Place getting screwed is complete dogshit because it tries to make you care about the case board. Byt that dogshit """gameplay"""" mechanic only existed to infodump and progress block the player. It was completely braindead. And the musical segment that everyone seems to jerk off to is just Ashtray Maze but even worse. Watcjing it live at TGA is a bettet experience than playing it.
If this is the best Sam Lake can come up with then genuinely just be a fricking show director instead. Decades of TPS experience and this is what they shit out. I spit.
>use it when you have to >the game starts shitting itself for some reason due to the way the mind palace is overlayed over the actual game world and now your map doesn't load when you press M. >huh
i appreciate the idea behind the mind palace, but execution sucks.
Because I wanted an ACTUAL case board dumb frick. Not let mary suega solve everything for me. Imagine how much harder the Mind Place climax would have been if the case board wasn't just an arbritrary exposition.
Play Shadows of Doubt. That's a game that lets you genuinely build a case board using collected evidence, deduction, and fulfilling the purpose of the mechanic itself. By seeing connections which you eventually, using your actual head and not being spoonfed, solve.
I'm ok with the game but it's only real value is the atmosphere
The gameplay is dreadful, the story is convoluded. The game isn't scary. The ambiance is the only real strength it has
>I still don't understand why Ganker seems to hate this game so much
Because Ganker is infested low IQ third worlders who follow american politics obsessed "anti-woke" Britbong welfare leeches like Mauler religiously. Remember though, God of Onions and the last of us TV show are based and redpilled, but AW2 is le WOKE.
Epic takes 100% until costs are covered then it reverts to 50/50.
https://www.gamedaily.biz/epic-launches-new-publishing-program-with-50-50-profit-sharing-for-developers/ >once costs are recouped, developers earn at least 50% of all profits
Huh, actually informative. However, i will point out
>“Developers earn a fair share for their work — once costs are recouped, developers earn AT LEAST 50% of all profits.”
So they almost certainly have a better deal worked out.
Ofc it'd be nice if Remedy could take the leap and publish the games themselves
I mean you already have digital platforms that handles the payments and distribution.
>but what about the STOOCKS
If you haven't noticed, the entire vidya industry is currently tanking. Most companies are laying people off, Remedy is hiring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8MZBUoQt68
I guess as an investor theres room to be actually worried. >oh they made a 90 metacritic score title with multitude of awards and sells just okay >what if the next game is 85 metacritic, is it a flop then?
Investors are scared shitless regardless of what they invest in. Most of Ganker is neets and children, so they've missed the fact we've been printing literal billions just to stay afloat during covid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv1n6WdYTeQ
>cyberpunk 2077 sold millions >stock drop >spiderman 2 sold millions >insomniac gets layoff >like a dragon IW sold millions >sega gets layoff >baldurs gate 3 sold millions >wizard of the coast layoff 1100
it's always the same story, i wonder if the video game industry is just a one big house of cards
It's because all of those games had a larger marketing budget than Remedy's entire budget for AW2. You can't measure financial success on sales alone, it's all relative to what you invest vs what you earn back.
>cyberpunk 2077 sold millions >stock drop >spiderman 2 sold millions >insomniac gets layoff >like a dragon IW sold millions >sega gets layoff >baldurs gate 3 sold millions >wizard of the coast layoff 1100
it's always the same story, i wonder if the video game industry is just a one big house of cards
gate 3 sold millions
of the coast layoff 1100
and what does this have to do with Larian, you know, the ones who made the game?
you can't be that moronic, anon
>high budget ass game >1.3mil copies sold
oof, anyway I pirated it
Alan's story sucked dick
Saga's was fine
Overall a big downgrade compared to the first game
You notice how no one really gave a damn about this game until it got dicksucked at the game awards show? And how none of the"fans" even try to look like genuine human beings? This is just TLOU2 all over again. Alan Wake 1 at least was doing cool shit and was an actual GAME about a white man and his white best friend fighting the forces of darkness to save his white wife. While the sequel is about a ugly nigress mary sue and Alan Wake is somewhere in there too.
You notice how no one really gave a damn about this game until it got dicksucked at the game awards show? And how none of the"fans" even try to look like genuine human beings? This is just TLOU2 all over again. Alan Wake 1 at least was doing cool shit and was an actual GAME about a white man and his white best friend fighting the forces of darkness to save his white wife. While the sequel is about a ugly nigress mary sue and Alan Wake is somewhere in there too.
Exactly this, Alan wake 2 was astroturfed HARD. Alan Wake 1 wasn't exactly a booming series nor was control, quantum break. Alan wake 2 was talked about in every main stream journo space including TGA and summer games.
What do I care about a game selling? Especially an AAA game with a marketing budget that's supposed to sell. I'm not a shareholder.
>I didn't go to the threads before the awards so nobody care
lol?
The only threads were obvious shilling/marketing threads around the release that then went quiet until the game got dicksucked at the game awards.
Palworld and Hogwarts probably
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Exactly this, Alan wake 2 was astroturfed HARD. Alan Wake 1 wasn't exactly a booming series nor was control, quantum break. Alan wake 2 was talked about in every main stream journo space including TGA and summer games.
Alan Wake 1 is a nice game and the light/darkness mechanics combined with the pretty good use of lighting and shadow + various atmospheric effects like fog make it still a pretty impressive title with a cool stephen king/twin peaks atmosphere. It's not "omg shit your pants" scary at all, but it's a fun shooter with unique enemies and a lot of atmosphere. Alan Wake 2 is a sweet baby movie game for normalgays and coworkers that don't play videogames.
>acts like a person trying to sell a product and manufacture hype and not a genuine human being >WHAT DO YOU MEAN I AM A SHILL???????????????????????
EVERY TIME. Hey, here's a tip for starters - normal people don't give a damn about game sales. Those are important to the people who made the game and their shareholders, not the players.
I've been lurking these threads since pre-release, and all you motherfrickers talked about was how WOKE it supposedly was and how everyone who liked the game was a SHILL SHILL SHILL, because apparently nobody bought it. Of course, now that it's proven that the game actually did sell well, anyone discussing the fact that the game did sell well is also a shill. How convenient.
>dec: it sold 1 mill >everyone knows that this is a gigaflop for a game this expensive >shill: reeeeeeeeeeee >2 months later: it sold 300k more with heavy discountry >still a giant flop >shill: SEE THIS PROVES IT WAS A SUCCESS
what mental illness possesses people to behave like this
3 months ago
Anonymous
How is it a flop if it sold faster than their previous games, and those games sold well over time?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>i-its selling fast!!!
Cope. You were mocked when you acted like 1 million is an achievement for an AAA game getting this much dicksucking, 300 thousand more doesn't change things.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not even that anon, but wouldn't call Remedy AAA company, more like A or AA. You can cry about it all day but AW2 is a hit for them and it's going to sell well in a long term. Keep coping and seething
3 months ago
Anonymous
The only reason Control sold well long term is because it had a hyped up Ultimate Edition rerelease on Steam. That push alone made them an extra million and a half.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The only reason Control sold well
it helped that it was a decent game and one of the rare games that had RT looking good.
Despite Christoph Waltz playing the female lead.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>A or AA
Get your head out of your ass. “A” studios don’t get bankrolled by Epic Games.
>I've been lurking these threads since pre-release, and all you motherfrickers talked about was how WOKE
It's a sweet baby game with a b***hy nigress protagonist. Also nice reddit image. Lurk more.
also >continues babbling about the game "selling well" while ignoring my point that normal people don't give a damn about game sales.
I've been lurking these threads since pre-release, and all you motherfrickers talked about was how WOKE it supposedly was and how everyone who liked the game was a SHILL SHILL SHILL, because apparently nobody bought it. Of course, now that it's proven that the game actually did sell well, anyone discussing the fact that the game did sell well is also a shill. How convenient.
If a game is on epic the developers don't expect it to sell well, that's why Timmy foots the bill and pays a lot of money for the game. Epic also hides their numbers and it can't be seen as easily as steam numbers
>The price point has also remained at a high level, and the game has already recouped a significant part of the development and marketing expenses. We will continue to develop the game to serve existing fans and attract new players and expect the game to continue selling well
What the frick are they doing if the game still hasn't broken even yet? How much did this cost?
AW1 only made 300k at it's first month, since it released at the same time with RDR2, and that game still become a cult classic and sold itself back over the years. Same thing happened with Control, and it's going to happen with AW2, it's going to sell well over the years. It's just a stable with Remedy games, they always had a strong long-term selling games. Cope and seethe
Didn't alan wake 1 fricking suck? I remember playing it and it was so fricking mind numbingly boring that I think I wanted to shoot myself while playing it. I will pirate it if someone can convince me.
it's jank af... and a retread of Steven King cliches in vidya form... it's alright if you like the survival horror type of games, it's absolutely okay game but I don't why the devs decided it was some masterpiece or something to based some metaverse bullshit on it...
I mean, for a horror game it's not very scary at all and it does have a lot of "walking" parts, plus the day scenes drag on a little - however the atmosphere is top notch and the mechanics of fighting enemies with light are pretty neat. It's a pretty cool shooter and it still looks genuinely really good for its age, especially when you're in an area that lets you appreciate the lighting & shadows. Genuinely better graphics than in a lot of games coming out today. i saw some guy talking how this game was behind the times graphically back then and looks really bad but I genuinely have no idea what the hell he was talking about, maybe he was playing it on low settings on a potato pc
>had a massive fricking journo shill campaign for it >ended with a MASSIVE jerk off fest at the awards show >1.3m
kek
glad to see """critics""" no longer have the shilling power they used to have
Don't point out the fact that the only people who dislike the game are morbidly obese gay welfare leeches obsessed with American politics, who think being born British makes them a genius media analysts.
Don't point out the fact that the only people who "like" this game agressively insist that a game released under the wing of Sweet Baby, a company existing only to put woke shit into videogames, somehow isn't woke
Maybe you shouldn't watch shitty clickbait/ragebait videos from said british grifters and you should actually play the fricking game and come to your own conclusions, homosexual.
I played the first game and enjoyed it. You didn't even care about Alan Wake until Alan Wake 2 started getting deepthroated by the media. Enjoy playing sweet baby shit and insisting that it's not woke.
Not even that anon, but wouldn't call Remedy AAA company, more like A or AA. You can cry about it all day but AW2 is a hit for them and it's going to sell well in a long term. Keep coping and seething
Good for them? How does them making money affect me? I am not a investor or shareholder.
Daily reminder that this dude is apparently a convicted child abuser brutally beating a child type of abuse, not sexual. So heckin' BASED AND REDPILLED FELLOW CONSERVATIVES. Reminder that Sam Lake who is a happily married right-wing christian is le WOKE though, because he doesn't give a frick about race.
>Reminder that Sam Lake who is a happily married right-wing christian is le WOKE though, because he doesn't give a frick about race.
Is that why he teamed up with Sweet Baby, a company that exists only to insert woke shit into videogames, and changed the race of a woman that was shown to be white?
>Americans think that taking copious amounts of drugs daily is normal/common
Why are they like this? Is it because their pharmaceutical industry has a death grip on their country?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>SBI says they worked on Alan Wake therefore that means it was SBI that told Remedy to turn Saga Anderson into a black character
you are legitimately moronic if you believe this.
Literally did not happen, and they say so on their own website. Once again, try watching less shit outrage-bait videos from moronic politics grifters and play more games.
I've been watching Worth a buy for years. is that really true?
Yes. He's an opioid addict and alcoholic, and beat his spouse and their child so badly he's only allowed supervised visits.
>happily married Christian
Why are you playing and supporting this chud game??
Because i am also a chud, i'm just not an illiterate troglodyte subhuman like the people who hate this game.
Daily reminder that this dude is apparently a convicted child abuser brutally beating a child type of abuse, not sexual. So heckin' BASED AND REDPILLED FELLOW CONSERVATIVES. Reminder that Sam Lake who is a happily married right-wing christian is le WOKE though, because he doesn't give a frick about race.
I unsubscribed from Mack because his videos are pure pandering, I'm as anti woke as the next guy but Mack beats you over the head with it
He's also horrible at games, and the story with his broken arm/wife is pathetic, can't take him serious after that
lots of people who lean into a political group end up going down the pandering rabbit hole and eventually the people who aren't politically motivated and just want neutral opinions are alienated
Dylan will probably be a co-protagonist and you'll find yourself missing Jesse due to how aggravating he'll be. But yes, you're correct, Jesse is a charisma void.
Remedy is one of the most irrelevant developers currently. Hardly anyone knew Alan Wake 2 was even a thing until it got shilled hard at the game awards.
All this fricking shilling and Helldivers, the Sony GaaS game everyone expected to flop, made 1M in 4 days.
Three niche JRPGs hit a million in less than a month.
And yet another survival crafting game that released right next to Palworld still did a million.
Some fricking shota hentai game sold a million.
Blasphemous sold a million.
Sure, palworld was a huge success but AW2 was successful for Remedy's goals, didn't sell quarillion copies but enough for them to have multiple games in development in the future
>playing vidya
Alan Wake 2 is for those kinds of people that talk at work about how they're super cool gamers and only play shit like GTA5 and RDR2, only to switch into the fluoride stare and react with apathy and disgust when someone brings up other kinds of games
>SBI says they worked on Alan Wake therefore that means it was SBI that told Remedy to turn Saga Anderson into a black character
you are legitimately moronic if you believe this.
>SBI says they worked on Alan Wake therefore that means it was SBI that told Remedy to turn Saga Anderson into a black character
Yes? That is what they do. You are genuinely moronic if you don't understand what Sweet Baby does despite them literally explaining it to everyone in big letters.
>Yes? That is what they do.
No anon, what they do is give script advice.
Do you want to know what actually happened?
Remedy wanted the same actress from the QB clip to reprise her role as Saga Anderson. She was currently filming some Sweedish TV show or some shit during the time that Remedy had to mocap and record the Saga Anderson character, so they went to find someone new.
Of the prospective hires, only one of them was able to do the work in the timeframe AND had previous mo-cap experience, and that's the black lady they went with.
They then, a couple of white dudes, wrote the script where you play as a black lady for a decent bit.
They then took that script and shot it over to SBI to have them help out with anything that needs touching up, and since it's a group of white dudes writing a black lady, SBI had some input on how to better write the Saga Anderson character and make her feel more natural.
That's quite literally it. And yet every single one of you idiots on here seem to think that it was SBI's decision to change a character to black, as if they have that kind of say or power to dictate things. You guys are just as bad as the left with their TDS.
Whats the source of wanting to use same actress? I know they wanted to use the same guy for Door characters who is black and is sagas father, so its a bit weird if they wanted to use a white actor for saga.
>They then took that script and shot it over to SBI to have them help out with anything that needs touching up, and since it's a group of white dudes writing a black lady, SBI had some input on how to better write the Saga Anderson character and make her feel more natural.
This should be pretty obvious to anyone who isn't a schizoid. You just use consulting talent to fix up your writing teams lack of knowledge.
Sam Lake in an interview aruond the time the game released mentioned that they needed to replace Saga due to scheduling issues and the actress they went with surprised them with how knowledgable of the mo-cap process she was.
>they only [headcanon]
What industry do you work in? Have you seriously never dealt with consultants in any capacity? Deloitte?
I work in the construction industry and deal with consultants at least once a week, more often than not it's upwards of half a dozen times a week. They don't have the power that you idiots seem to think they do.
>construction
Okay so you don’t work an office job. Consultants are a bit different here.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Consultants are a bit different here.
They are the same in every field.
3 months ago
Anonymous
How many consultants do you have in construction that focus on DEI sensitivity training?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Okay so you don’t work an office job
I've literally never stepped foot on a jobsite in my 15 year career. I worked in offices for a bit but have been working from home for the last decade.
I still deal with the wienersuckers on at least a once weekly basis from zoom and teams meetings.
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Alan Wake 2 got funded and then canceled several times over the 13 year period, and Malla Malmivaara was supposed to play her. When they called her again, she refused because she's an actress and a singer, she recently gave birth, and she already had her entire work schedule get fricked by the game several times.
>Malla Malmivaara was supposed to play her. When they called her again, she refused because she's an actress and a singer, she recently gave birth, and she already had her entire work schedule get fricked by the game several times.
They obviously casted her at quantum break scene, but at some point they'd have to make narrative decisions like what sagas role in the story is, what her powers are, how she is related to other characters ingame. You would've had to cast warling as a white guy if they planned to use white actress for saga, then you would've had the entire cast be bunch of finns while the game is set in usa.
3 months ago
Anonymous
also Door is a not-so-subtle expy of Hatch from QB who was black
3 months ago
Anonymous
>you’d have to have a bunch of white people in a game taking place in one of America’s whitest states
Oh no…!
3 months ago
Anonymous
Does being a pol grifter pay well
3 months ago
Anonymous
So the original mocap/face actress was in fact Malla Malmivaara, a Finnish woman, just like the mocap/face actress for Alan is a Ilkka Villi, a Finnish actor, because it's cheaper and easier than flying in Americans. Like Ilkka says in the video i posted, he himself didn't believe Alan Wake 2 would happen this time around either because it was already 100% confirmed to be habbening and then cancelled four times. The AW2 we got is the fifth one.
How many consultants do you have in construction that focus on DEI sensitivity training?
>he doesn't know
Get a job, neet. That shit is everywhere, because you literally don't get investments unless you comply with that shit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>get a job, neet
I do, in an office. I’m not sitting on the side of a road doing jackshit for 4 years like construction “””””””workers””””””” on their “job”site.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So then you should already know that the diversity & inclusivity mafia enforces that shit everywhere.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I have first hand experience with it. I was saying that I didn’t think that consultants working in construction would be the same way >yeah we think this project should be built this way to adhere to safety standard X
As opposed to >we noticed your finance department doesn’t have any non-binary Dominicans, you need to fix that
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well you have safety consultants that do exactly that, and then you have the identity politics hustlers complaining the company doesn't have enough black transgender paraplegics working for it in order to qualify for ESG funding and therefore you need to heckin' pay the carbon tax. So it's an extra layer of bullshit red tape.
>These are people who needed to be killed as children.
Because when they were 5. they bought into American idpol drivel and started spewing ideological horseshit, after they got indoctrinated by browsing imageboards in their teens, right? And anon isn't wasting his breath, the truth points to itself as one ambassador once said, despite people cowering that their blackwashing narratives are falling apart when presented with clear cut evidence there was no grand conspiracy at work, but were scheduling differences that made the previous actress impossible to repeat her role as Saga. What he is doing is being a beacon of light in a heap of trash, daring to go against the reactionary grain who has become so accustomed to their circlejerk that they lost sight of perspective, actual rational reasoning and real life, in exchange for isolating themselves into a dark corner of the internet where they get fed with "truths", fearing any and all opposition that would put their frail ideological immune systems to scrutiny.
>These are people who needed to be killed as children.
Because when they were 5. they bought into American idpol drivel and started spewing ideological horseshit, after they got indoctrinated by browsing imageboards in their teens, right? And anon isn't wasting his breath, the truth points to itself as one ambassador once said, despite people cowering that their blackwashing narratives are falling apart when presented with clear cut evidence there was no grand conspiracy at work, but were scheduling differences that made the previous actress impossible to repeat her role as Saga. What he is doing is being a beacon of light in a heap of trash, daring to go against the reactionary grain who has become so accustomed to their circlejerk that they lost sight of perspective, actual rational reasoning and real life, in exchange for isolating themselves into a dark corner of the internet where they get fed with "truths", fearing any and all opposition that would put their frail ideological immune systems to scrutiny.
>schizo aggressively samegayging paragraphs of schizo nonsense
why do crappy games induce such mental illness? it's like Dark Souls 2 all over again
Having actual interest in videogames and playing all kinds of vidya, not just shit that is currently "viral" or a "hot new thing".
Not developing the Fluoride Stare when someone starts talking about games that are not Fifa or Call Of Duty
Not sucking off "cinematic experiences"
Not defending Sweet Baby.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>can't name 1 (ONE) game to prove his point
Yep, thought as much. Too busy sperging out here to play any vidya. Sad!
3 months ago
Anonymous
Alright, humor me, what does someone need to play to be a real """GAMER""" according to you, the expert?
NTA but Palworld, Mechwarrior, and Age of Wonders. Boom. You lose.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Palworld
Mmm, sorry, that's too "viral" and "hot new thing" for me.
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
Call of Juarez Gunslinger
Star Sector
Hyper Light Drifter
Heat Signature
Enslaved: Odyssey To The West
Marlow Briggs and The Mask of Death
Binary Domain
World In Conflict
Sleeping Dogs
Way of The Samurai
Bushido Blade
Monster Hunter Freedom
There you go Black person
>Sleeping Dogs >You're not a real gamer unless you play knockoff GTA instead of real GTA
epic, I can tell you're a real gamer cause you said the Black personword too
I am kneeling
3 months ago
Anonymous
>uh uhhhh *shits pants*
Mechwarrior, Age of Wonders, and Craftopia. Boom. You lose.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Just googled whatever Palworld's devs did last
Keep trying, kid, you're simply not a REAL gamer if you play open world survival crafting games.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>uhhhh no that uhh doesn’t count okay????
Mechwarrior, Age of Wonders, and Swirl W@tch. If you haven’t cleared a level 5 sector with no additional tools or upgrades you aren’t a real gamer.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>look up Swirl W@tch >30 all-time reviews
How do you even find these kinds of games?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
Call of Juarez Gunslinger
Star Sector
Hyper Light Drifter
Heat Signature
Enslaved: Odyssey To The West
Marlow Briggs and The Mask of Death
Binary Domain
World In Conflict
Sleeping Dogs
Way of The Samurai
Bushido Blade
Monster Hunter Freedom
Roughly 90 and some change in revenue
75 million dollar dev budget
It’s not much but it’s a profit, still not playing it til it’s significantly on sale
It's crazy just how badly this one game has mind broken Ganker
It's like everytime this game gets mentioned now fat morons on Ganker shit themselves in pure rage.
The only "mindbroken" ones are corporate dicksuckers like you. You forgot how to even act like a genuine human being.
>Yes? That is what they do.
No anon, what they do is give script advice.
Do you want to know what actually happened?
Remedy wanted the same actress from the QB clip to reprise her role as Saga Anderson. She was currently filming some Sweedish TV show or some shit during the time that Remedy had to mocap and record the Saga Anderson character, so they went to find someone new.
Of the prospective hires, only one of them was able to do the work in the timeframe AND had previous mo-cap experience, and that's the black lady they went with.
They then, a couple of white dudes, wrote the script where you play as a black lady for a decent bit.
They then took that script and shot it over to SBI to have them help out with anything that needs touching up, and since it's a group of white dudes writing a black lady, SBI had some input on how to better write the Saga Anderson character and make her feel more natural.
That's quite literally it. And yet every single one of you idiots on here seem to think that it was SBI's decision to change a character to black, as if they have that kind of say or power to dictate things. You guys are just as bad as the left with their TDS.
>n-nooo you don't understand, only a black woman was available to play the role of a white woman!
Uh huh. >where you play as a black lady for a decent bit.
They then took that script and shot it over to SBI to have them help out with anything that needs touching up, and since it's a group of white dudes writing a black lady, SBI had some input on how to better write the Saga Anderson character and make her feel more natural.
You know what anon, go ahead and keep thinking the way you are. I'm sure it won't cause myriad mental issues when you think literally everything is a conspiracy to erase the white man from existence. You'll be a perfectly healthy and adjusted individualy that totally won't shoot up a school or church or grocery store when you inevitably snap
But they literally barely marketed it. The little marketing they did didn't even do as much for their sales as the pc requirements controversy or the tga dance.
Why would someone genuinely wanting to talk about the game make a thread on a place filled with alt right conspiracy nuts obsessed with having sex with toddlers
I don't believe this. Websites were begging people to buy it and not forget it last month. I think this is way to save face Sweet Baby Inc from investors after the disaster of Suicide Squad.
Definitely trying to make sweet baby look good after after Suicide Squad disaster. Still going to avoid any game they're associated with like the plague.
>this troony walks up to Sam Lake >"Hey i'm a huge fan and a big youtube influencer, can i feature in your coffee drinking tik-toks?" >"yeah, sure" >they film a 10 second video on Sam Lake's phone camera and he posts it online >the BASED AND REDPILLED white nationalists (who are totally not obsessed, closeted homosexuals who spend 10 hours a day gooning to the sad pornos of this dude in a dress reluctantly sucking dick for a living) lose their shit and claim this is proof Sam Lake is LE WOKE >Sam Lake moves on with his life never knowing or caring that it was a former pornstar troony
But it's the truth, though. After that video was posted, it was literally a week of non-stop emotional meltdown threads about it, when literally no normal, heterosexual man knows anything about sphere hunter besides the fact they make game review videos on youtube. If you spend every waking moment obsessing over and stalking this troony's social media and who they interact with, i've got news for you; You're a homosexual. And not only are you a homosexual, you're a weird, parasocial homosexual.
Imagine what these people could do with their lives, if only they didn't choose to waste their limited time on Earth and decided to not obsess over ideological drivel they got indoctrinated into by browsing imageboards. Truly makes the noggin joggin.
iam just posting here to say AW2 was the most fun singleplayer game i played since forever
absolute kino experience from beginning to end
thank you sam lake and please dont make me wait too long on the dlc
I could run AC VI on high in fluid 60 FPS, but my PC wasn't even good enough to star AW2 and to play it in suboptimal 30 fps. So yeah, it is technically demanding, one of the most technically demanding games on PC in recent years next to Cyberpunk 2077.
Depends how you wanna optimize playing it, but if you want a preferable experience, you need to have a strong PC. Same goes for AW2.
Specs? Works on my Ryzen 5 3600, and that's bread and butter as far requirememts go.
Starfield is another story.
Doesn't matter, I intend to buy a new PC at the end of 2024 so I can run AW2 on high as it was intended to be played. I waited for a decade to play it, what's 10 months more?
>1.3 million
Remedy and Microsoft have to be pulling some kind of tax scam right? How the hell else are they able to get away with flop after flop? I can't even think of another studio that has lived as long after a string of flops like they have.
>no one even heard of this shit
Suuuuuure, the original never existed and its fans haven't been loud enough for the past decade about wanting a sequel, no no!
>alan wake 2 cost 70 millions euro to develop >alan wake 1 was considered a flop by microsoft and remedy which sold 3 million copies at the time
TOTAL CHUD VICTORY!
you do realize the reason Saga became black was because Alan changed her history to make her the daughter of Door, right?
You do realize they made her the daughter of door just so she is black, right
proud of her swedish heritage
NEW EUROPEANS
Anon its just whites being obsessed with blacks again, youbare overworking.
Nobody cares about the moronic cinematic universe retcons.
Also if you actually played the first game then it's stated pretty clearly that he cant change whatever he wants, it has to make sense. Which is why also Casey makes no sense.
Sam Lake is a hack.
Nah, they took israelite money.
You take this as a sign of some grand conspiracy, when it's a mere logical move on behalf of minorities that are systematically oppressed and continue to experience bigotry and hatred based on their identity alone. Have you never read about Black Panthers, moron?
I accept your concession
g-man looks like THAT?
Literally nobody will ever think a black woman is "cool", it's actually fricking impossible.
Id say saga is pretty equivalent on alan wake when it comes to how the player is meant to feel about them
>Main (male) character is not the main character anymore
>Side (female) character is now the main character and she's race-bent into being black
>mfw Alan Wake 2 is a Netflix adaptation of Alan Wake's stories
Get woke go bro-ACK
Literally get woke go broke.
When other game is selling double, triple their predecessor nowadays I don't think being your own fastest selling game is a noteworthy achievement, especially when it comes to Remedy.
Also fyi, this game cost almost 2.5 times more to develop than Control did.
So they at least need to triple the sales for it to be as profitable as Control, and 1.3mill copies is ain't it.
>cost more than control
>sold more than control
so.. it's fine?
Cost TRIPLE the Control.
Does not sold TRIPLE the control
Kapish?
>Cost TRIPLE the Control.
damn sister, how big of a cut do those gays at sweet baby inc get for sitting in a writers room and doing frick all for a few days?
Control costs 30m, AW2 costs 50m, stop making shit up homosexual the game is already turning profit and you can't do anything about it 😀
50 mil is pretty cheap for what has been called the best looking game of last year (along with the Avatar game I guess)
the price of not having huge amount of employees and an original IP instead of a licenced one
Finns are used to working with limited funds.
>already turning profit
Zero chance when most of its sales 100% glcame from when it went on discount kek.
Most likely it needs a few more months to really break even.
They literally say it isn't.
>“The price point has also remained at a high level, and the game has already recouped a significant part of the development and marketing expenses.
It recouped a part of the costs. But it's still a loss at the moment.
But don't worry. I am sure this game will break even the moment they put it on Steam....Oh wait! That won't happen! Because its Epic published.
>unironically using kapish
>being this angry at a company's success
yup, its an autist alright
Nah
>Literally get woke go broke.
>the most selling games are woke
hm....
>Oh no no fandom menace sisters. Looks like we miscalculated, and picked the wrong the wrong game to randomly accuse of being LE WOKE to grift our moron audience
Love to fricking see it.
The funniest shit is, Saga's story literally culminates with her explicitly rejecting a false racially charged victim narrative
This. The only "woke" dialogue is the dark place preying on her fears and Saga counters it with the reality. They literally paint woke thought as a evil, capturing, and self-defeating mindset. It's really easy to tell who has and hasn't actually played the game. If they claim it's woke, they haven't played it to the end.
actually yeah
the game cost them over 100 million US dollars by just reconstructing their capex accounts so they're going to need quite a lot of sales here to break even
Timmy paid for it.
Remedy will layoff no one.
They won.
Remedy posted disappointing sales for Alan Wake 2 and they're announcing layoffs.
Get woke, go broke.
Soon or later, but always.
2 more weeks i'm sure they'll fold
You mean epic will fold since they paid for the games development and marketing
epic just got 1,5 billion in free money from disney
/vtweets/
Its doing so well that its already 50% off everywhere
I thought the gameplay was pretty slow compared to Max Payne
>digital game sold over three times more copies than physical game
funny what happens if you bundle it with GPU huh?
But Ganker told me it was a flop and Remedy would shutter...
>AAA
>1.3m
flopped lmao
>sold more and faster than Control, another AAA game
Seems like they are doing just fine?
Control was a major failure. Female lead? Flop indeed!
If this is a flop then what was control? They made this after control. Are they flopping upwards?
Ganker cant stand it when they're wrong, they start short circuiting and posting one-liners
This entire board turned into a den of narcissists just as vile as Twitter and its been depressing watching it in real-time.
>Got an infusion of cash from Epic and Tencent
Hmm...
Control cost 15% of what AW2 did
Source: your butthole
>If this is a flop then what was control?
Funny you say that, because Control was successful because of constant re-releases paid by platform owners and subscription deals.
They got paid by Amazon, Google, Sony for PS Plus monthly game, Microsoft for Game Pass every now and then and then there was Epic.
And 9th gen version was a separate game you couldn't upgrade to, coming from 8th gen version.
Google in general paid $5 million for Stadia ports btw.
>source: trust me bro
fricking morons always just making up random bullshit lmao
Fastest selling because it didn't sell as much as previous games despite putting alot of money into shilling the game and the games actual tech
Most of the custscenes in game are just real videos i am pretty sure that alone saved them a lot of money
>le connected universe of piss and shit
>only 1.3M
Bro. The fricking dogshit SAINTS ROW reboot sold faster than that. And this is with the sales it already went on back in December.
Remedy is cooked lmao.
>Remedy Connected Universe
I hate modern devs so much
They were always interconnected. There are references to the events of Max Payne in the first Alan Wake.
And the first Alan Wake was shit too.
>nooo you can't have multiple separate stories in a shared universe because mahvel did that and mahvel is le bad!
yeah imagine people on Ganker actually substantiating opinions
unironically marvelization of every media is bad
accept it, fartso
It's all laughs and games until they recon the Max Payne remake to fit their memeuniverse and delist the originals so you can only play the "improved" version.
Would.
She ain't ugly.
I think the black girl is way hotter than any of the white women.
THEY STILL HAVENT FRICKING BROKE EVEN
THIS IS ACTUALLY FRICKED LMAO
REMEDY IS COPING SO HARD
>Sold 50% more digital copies than Control did in its first 4 months
>Control had both a physical and digital release - Alan Wake 2 is digital only
Hahaha
Alan Wake. A. Wake. Awake. Awakening. The Great Awakening. The Great Reset. The Woke agenda. Wakanda.
Wake = Wakanda.
Alan. Anal.
Alan = Anal.
The Anal Awakening. The gay agenda. Anal wakanda. Chadwick Boseman. Ass cancer. Black gay anal sex. Buck breaking.
Alan Wake = Buck Breaking.
Saga Anderson MC of Alan Wake 2.
Sara Anderson. Half-black. White name. Racemixing. The offspring of the broken buck. The Kalergi Plan.
Saga Anderson Formerly White in Quantum Break. Raceswapping. Woke agenda.
Saga Anderson. MC of Buck Breaking Wakanda 2.Product of the woke agenda.
Buck breaking. Anal sex. Hemorrhoids. Blood. AIDS. Ass Cancer. Chadwick Boseman. Anal Wakanda. Anal Wokeness. Anal awakening. Anal Wake. A-Wake. Alan Wake.
I've never considered this, but you're absolutely right... about all of it.
>took longer than P3R
>took longer than Infinite Wealth
>took longer than Relink
>took longer than Palword
>took longer than Helldiver 2
Is this supposed to be impressive?
Considering that it isn't on steam, yeah.
holy cope
And yet it took them 4 months just to reach that point. Yakuza 8 took less than 2 weeks and it had a smaller budget.
Sega didn't get a fat check from Epic so cope along gay
sega don't need epics help to make a game but the creators of AW sure did.
So were talking in an interest and profitability of a product instead of its reception amongst the gamer?
Interesting...
>original post is about budget
>"why are you talking about that?"
For the record AW2 already has nearly unanimous good reception among those who played it which certainly doesnt include those who crusade against it because they have a political agenda.
It's no Palworld
Didn't this go on sale immediately during the holidays?
It did but I don't see your point.
It's on a 100% sale on the high seas
It was like $25 on EGS.
Everything but BG3 on Xbox went on sale idiot, why do I keep seeing this as a actual fricking argument
>Being proud of 1.3m
>This is their fastest selling one.
This won some awards right? Yet, it's getting out paced by recent Japanese game releases.
>game is praised by critics and won several awards but sells like shit
hm i swear ive seen this happen before
CoD regularly sells almost as much as the aggregation of video game sales happening in your island of zipperheads yet it didn't get any awards so I fail to see why you would bring up Japan, sale numbers and awards.
Pretty good, considering it's a single-player story game that's not very trendy right now and doesn't come with a huge following.
>This won some awards right?
yes they changed the race of the female mc into a black woman
>t-this is proof you have to let us keep our jobs, Western game companies!!!
LMAO. Your desperation is delicious.
>fastest selling game
fastroturfed
ill be honest i dont know if this will even outsell control
remember control eventually came out on steam too
it has 40k reviews on steam that translates to like over a million sales
i have no fricking clue how alan wake 2 will keep selling that isnt just pity desperation sales
>i have no fricking clue how alan wake 2 will keep selling that isnt just pity desperation sales
It's going to be really hard especially without the Steam release. They need to REALLY shill the content updates later.
I don't know anyone thats actually played it
I would have added to that number if it came out on Steam. Now I probably won't get it unless it has a deep sale.
-ACK in the thread
it was the only remedy game released in a long fricking time lol
>release game
>leave important lore and other cool bits in a NG+ bullshit free DLC 2 months down the line
get fricked morons, i'm not fricking around with your multi-media bullshit anymore just to deal with Alan Wake getting sidelined in his own fricking game
a reminder that saga has
>more dialogue
>more screentime
>bigger maps
>bigger inventory
>more guns
>more puzzles
>charm gimmick
and the worst part
>because it's the second game, we need a new Black person to be there and 'learn' how the dark place and everything works
>because of this, they retread the exact same plot lines of Alan Wake 1 and it's DLC's with Alan 'realizing' he is forgetting days inside the dark place and that he needs to escape
>can only escape because they made a brand new character who can just enter and leave the darkplace because his name is door
>brand new character can enter the dark place, and be totally fine, do everything Alan can't and fricking makes herself an editor to Alan's story
what a fricking joke
I firmly believe that nobody who likes it has played or liked AW1.
Shills tried really hard to deny that Saga is more prominant in the game. Also a reminder that the lore is severely rewritten and the fricking game ends by solving nothing.
Good luck getting another sequel in 10 years morons, lmao
>I firmly believe that nobody who likes it has played or liked AW1.
that was blatantly obvious since the first shill thread started
I loved Alan Wake 1 (read all the tie in comics and the prequal web series) and love Alan Wake 2. Cope you fragile homosexuals lmao
>noooo p-please buy my game it’s on sale for $25 ok please please please
Sorry, I think I’ll play some more Helldivers instead while I wait for DD2.
It's fricking hilarious how none of Ganker has any functional fricking memory of Alan Wake 1 much less Control.
Alan Wake committed suicide launching right next to fricking RDR1 but it had strong ass legs and ended up being successful in the long run. Likewise Control also had a really long tail.
And yet Alan Wake 2 is being put under much more scrutiny for arbitrary and inane reasons.
>Likewise Control also had a really long tail.
Control sold a frickton on Steam despite the year long exclusivity. That's where the tail came from.
AW2 is stuck on EGS. Permanently.
It's a permanent exclusive? At least there is no Denuvo
BRO DID YOU HEAR?
DEAD ISLAND 2 GOT ANNOUNCED
IT'S FINALLY COMING TO PC IN APRIL
Because the game is old as frick. Remedy took too fricking long to release 2 and they fricked themselves by making it an EGS exclusive. this is hardly worth the praise for selling a mil copies.
Anal Woke flopped.
Cope.
>astroturfed movie game for normies sells thanks to all the dicksucking and marketing
Wow
>People are still calling the game woke when the game jokes about the writer rewriting the heroine into a negress so it's more "liked" AND has the only other Black folk act like moronic baboons and thieves in the first hour of the game
It went for like 20 bucks 2 weeks post launch when the winter sales had started, so them selling 1.3m copies doesn't seem meaningful in any way. there's a good reason they haven't recovered dev and marketing costs.
I assume EGS took a huge piece of the pie from remedy.
Frick no, they must have paid a lot to have it as an exclusive
And all it took was for some game to finally capture Lynch's spirit correctly
Silent Hill took itself too seriously, Deadly Premonition was too goofy
Alan Wake 2 was just right
This but unironically
Shame about the combat
We are fricking back bros.
Alan Wake 3 here we FRICKING GO!!
>Ganker is so mad about Alan Wake 2 being a hit they have to cope about it by talking about other game sales and trying to pretend AW2 did flop
love to see it. AW2 has buck broken this board.
You must be proud of yourself for making an image in less than a minute just to shitpost
Anon that image has existed for months now. check the archives you sad fricker.
That doesn't make you whining over anons not liking your game any less pathetic and fricking gay.
You come to a thread for a game you don't like a year after its release, to post images from an anime you haven't seen.
I watched (yes) the start of this game and i'm like how the frick are all of you stomaching this humor. I haven't seen any comments about it even though every line out of each characters mouth is more cringe anything in life is strange ever was
>A triple A single player survival horror game that isn't Resident Evil sold well
You know this is a good thing right? am I the only one glad a horror game sold well? do you know how fricking rare that is? big budget horror games almost always flop Resident Evil being one of the few exceptions
And Ganker is mad that AW2 did well? feels petty as shit.
Ganker is committed to thinking if a game has a nig in a major role that the game is irredeemable
Ganker has literally turned itself into a politics-aligned board to the point it looks for politics in games where it isn't even there, and I know from fricking experience given I used to try and suggest horror games this place would like only to get a hundred fricking "WOKE" posts in a couple of minutes.
Ganker doesn't want the horror genre to do well, no matter what morons here may say in those shitpost threads they make daily. They just want more drama to jerk off over.
Most on Ganker don't even play games
>Most on Ganker don't even watch movies
ftfy
meant for
fricking phone posting
>horror game
It isn't even a game to begin with
Three fricking Japanese games hit 1M in less than 2 weeks.
Are you AW gays this desperate for a win?
>B-But other games!
So fricking what? AW2 sold well the devs are happy about it. that's what matters here. and we will get more AW in the future. time to admit you lost Ganker
If a game didn't sell as many copies as Palworld can you even call it a game?
It hasnt even broke even yet. And there's no shot this'll have the same tail as Control when it wom't even have the "NOW OUT OM STEAM" marleting hype later this year.
What was the budget?
Cost 50% to make more than Control.
Went on sale near instantly once the holiday sales started.
1.3 million homosexuals got cucked by cuckmaster sam lake
AW2 is the only Remedy game I haven't played yet but I'll get on it once I get my new card.
TOTAL ALAN SWEEP
I'm actually enjoying Control and I want to see it get a sequel
>I-IT WAS HARD OK?????
This is actually pathetic.
Remedy are industry veterans. There are more literal who studios that reach 1M sales faster and without the journo TGA circlejerk.
>Yakuza 8 broke a mil in less than a week
Oh yeah, I'm sure it's super difficult.
Granblue is a bigger anomaly considering everyone expected it to flop and it was in dev hell for years.
1m is barely enogh for the gorrillion years it took to make that trash game. Hope Cyhomos file for bankruptcy soon.
>Oh yeah, I'm sure it's super difficult.
Your example literally proves it is.
Yakuza spent over a decade failing to achieve any success beyond Japan. That's why the PSP games, Kenzan, and up until recently Ishin never saw a western release. That's why they almost scrapped the whole western side of the series until enough fans asked loudly enough for Y5 digitally.
Yakuza 8 is the culmination of Sega paying a shitton of ecelebs and giving out as many review codes as possible with 0, and then working their ass off to ride the subsequent popularity wave with 3 remakes, 2 new games, a spin-off series with 2 games, and 3 remasters in the span less than 7 years.
>The company name has been around for a long time
How many employees at the studio are, and how much does it matter when times have changed since 2000s.
How many "industry veterans" ended up making failures? Fricking simpleton.
name one full price single player only game made by a "literal who" studio that sold more than AW2, how out of touch do you have to be to think 1mil is nothing lmao, someone else said Tlou2 was a flop because it sold 11 million in 2 years, this board is just moronic sometimes
Drege.
Lies of P.
Dave the Diver.
Off the top of my head.
>$20
>gamepass
>fricking Nexon
moron
B-but dave the diver was nominated for best indie-game so it must have been made by an indie company. The dorito pope would never lie.
>Alan Wake went on sale instantly so it actually mostly sold 30-45 buck copies
>it sold 1M DESPITE Gamepass
>no one even knew Nexon was behind Dave
Frick it. Let's add Atomic Heart as well.
AW2 didn't go on sale before February, what happened in December is a EGS 33% off coupon that can be used on ANY game, not a sale, and the coupon wasn't on PS5 or xbox where it sold most
>Alan Wake went on sale instantly so it actually mostly sold 30-45 buck copies
Literally not true. Epic had a christmas sale and you could get whatever percentage off any game of your choosing. AW2 is not an has never been on sale.
>it sold 1M DESPITE Gamepass
Getting on gamepass is a huge advertising boost, moron. People buy games on gamepass to support developers all the time.
>no one even knew Nexon was behind Dave
Yeah, and that was kind of the fricking point of the games' marketing campaign.
>zoomer confused by the fact that a videogame's quality does not correlate with popularity
Guess Five nights at freddies and Fifa should win every year then, huh?
>defending AW2 and TLoU2 in a single post
Holy kek
ACVI lol
>bu-
You lost.
Also Overdungeon.
>Bandai from soft Kusoge
>cheap indie Kusoge
>cheap indie Kusoge
>cheap indie Kusoge
read the post you ESL kun
??????????????
Here’s what it says:
>name one full price single player only game made by a "literal who" studio that sold more than AW2
We did that. (You) LOST.
none of those are full price except ACVI, which is not made or published by a "literal who" studio, dumb ESL moron
>none of those are full price
Really…? So, what is “full price”? $60…?
>of cours-
Alan Wake 2’s full price is $50 on PC.
>…
Yes full price is $60, Alan wake is just that on all platforms except PC, concession not accepted obviously because you lost miserably
Oh okay okay sure, let’s go with that. I wonder why the Epic Games Store has a reduced price… oh wait! It’s because they published the game…
Huh, I didn’t know that EPIC INC was a “literal who” studio… maybe you meant to type developed?
maybe read the post i was replying to when i said that before you embarrass yourself like this? crazy to think this whole discussion would have been avoided if you weren't a moronic ESL who can't read
>Remedy are industry veterans. There are more literal who studios that reach 1M sales faster and without the journo TGA circlejerk.
>m-maybe if you read-ACK!
I did read your post, here
Oh no no no…
>wait!!! I meant my original post!!!
Oh, this one…?
>made by a literal who studio
I gave you an example with ACVI, to which you then deflected and specified (saying along the lines of):
>no no no no noooooo that doesnt count! that was published by bandai namco!!! give me a full price game [later clarified to be $60] PUBLISHED by a literal who studio!
Not a good look here…
>he thinks From Software is a literal who studio
Oh I'll name a one too then, call of duty! we sure showed xer
Oh okay okay okay, so the creators of MAX FRICKING PAYNE are a literal who studio, but the random dipshits that made that Dave the Diver game the other anon mentioned are world renowned?
>no no nooo them making Max Payne doesn’t count because they then only made dogshit games after that!
>max payne
Where do you think you are? Is this 2005?
>>it doesn’t count because they only made dogshit games after Max Payne!!!!
Okay? Fromsoft hasn’t made a good game since Last Raven, and Obsidian hasn’t made a good game since Planescape Torment. That doesn’t suddenly make them literal who studios. You want to know an actual literal who studio? PocketPair. Their oldest game is like 6 years old and literally NO ONE played their games or heard of them until Palworld came out.
What the frick are you on about lol
All I am saying is that Max Payne has no relevance at all in todays market
Nobody said they're a literal who you fricking moron, the entire point is that NO they're not being outsold by "literal who" studios under the same circumstances which is what that anon was saying, and the fact that you can't name a single game proves that, also dave the diver is published and develop by the largest Korean gaming studio you fricking pleb, maybe actually play videogames before posting
Now explain Brotato, Needy Girl Overdose, Lies of P, Atomic Heart and Dredge.
These are the most literal fricking who indies.
>dirt cheap, not full price
>dirt cheap, not full price
>gamepass
>gamepass
>dirt cheap, not full price
read homie READ
None of them had the entire fricking journo industry slobber on their dicks for weeks on end. MILLIONS of people saw the meme musical. Epic made a fricking Fortnite collab and event for this. They BEGGED people to buy it with all the sales in Winter.
Jesus lad. The fact that we're even using literal whos as comparison points to fricking REMEDY is embarassing.
>Epic made a fricking Fortnite collab.
They sure did, I've gotten plenty of victory royales with him too!
…that’s because “literal who” studios DONT SELL THEIR GAMES FOR $60. (Alan Wake 2 didn’t even do this for the ENTIRE PC MARKET)
Also Alan Wake 2 might as well have been $30 full price considering it has been on sale for that amount like every other week since a month after its release ROFL
Needy Girl Overdose
Brotato
>literal who studio
>360 employees
>CoD, HALO, FIFA and Yakuza always sell millions so every game must
You literally don't know what the frick you're talking about. There are hundreds of games released every day. For every game that sells a million, there are thousands of games that don't even sell ten fricking copies. Watching you morons get completely mindraped, because your e-daddies lied to you about the game being le woke and le bad, and being puzzled that functional adults don't give a frick what some morbidly obese britbong CHAV thinks is good or bad writing.
TLOU2 actually was a financial flop, because it's budget was completely out of control.
Literal who indie games sell 1 million faster than Anal Woke 2
.
>insane epic funding
so hard bros, meanwhile some literally whomst game
Black person
Probably because they discounted it like a week after release and also sacrificed James Mcaffery in an occult ritual
Woah woah woah, are you just shitposting or do you have some reason to suspect this? Any symbolism across their social media or something?
Chuds won.
>Gamepass
>Sweetbaby buying copies
thats good, it was a good game.
>Remedy's fastest selling game!!!
>only sold 1.3 million copies in this entire time despite all the journo and industry shilling and forced meme dance
>meanwhile some literally who games get 1 million in the first week
I like how they always need to specify it in some way to make even look like anything special. Really is a reason to celebrate, good on them for doing... kinda average?
This actually might be one of the lowest selling GOTY nominees if all time. Jesus.
Remedy just makes remedy games, aw2 isn't really horror.
Anyway the sales are a bit low considering the games quality level, its on egs which lowers the marketing potential so maybe its not that unsurprising.
and yes Ganker is shit, please close down the board and ban the 3rd world from Ganker
>Remedy just makes remedy games, aw2 isn't really horror.
If AW2 isn't horror, neither is Resident evil or Silent hill. Horror is more of an aesthetic anyway.
>Anyway the sales are a bit low considering the games quality level
Consider the fact it's a sequel to a 13 year old game that didn't sell very well in the first place in a genre that's not very popular, it's trapped on the Epic game store, the budget (including marketing) is only around 50-60 million range, and then consider the fact that the 1,3 mil is only in the first two months and i'd say it's doing pretty fricking good.
Control had 50-60mil budget and aw2 looks way better in every way so I'd be very surprised if the budget was that low
They did sell the game for 36€ during holidays on pc to boost the sales, and the 1.3mil is from 4 month period. If people didnt buy it on sale by now after geoff award hype I can't expect the game to get much more sales on pc.
Control was on gamepass so maybe thats a way to boost the numbers further.
>Control had 50-60mil budget
Wrong, Control was actually 30 million dollar game. https://archive.is/v7ska
>They did sell the game for 36€ during holidays on pc to boost the sales
Epic had a seasonal sale to draw people in to their launcher and they ate the cost, Remedy still got paid the full 60$. You think they can just arbitrarily drop the price of any game without compensating the developers? That's not how any of this works.
>and the 1.3mil is from 4 month period.
Sauce? OP's screenshot explicitly says AW2 sold 50% more in the first two months than Control did in 4 months.
Yeah, and there are 10 of those survival crafting games released every week that don't sell a 100 copies in years.
https://investors.remedygames.com/announcements/remedy-entertainment-plc-remedy-announces-sales-information-for-alan-wake-2/
>Remedy announces sales information for Alan Wake 2
Alan Wake 2 was released in October 2023 to worldwide critical acclaim, earning a Metacritic score of 89 at launch. Today, Remedy Entertainment Plc (“Remedy”) announces that Alan Wake 2 has sold 1 million units by the end of December 2023, and 1.3 million units as of the beginning of February 2024. Alan Wake 2 is Remedy’s fastest selling game so far.
>By comparison, Alan Wake 2 sold over 50% more copies and over three times more digital copies in its first two months than Control did in its first four months. Since its release in 2019, Control has sold over 4 million units, generating net revenue (shareable revenue between Remedy and a publishing partner, excluding taxes and platform fees) of approximately EUR 100 million. A great game can generate excellent long tail sales, and we expect this to be the case with Alan Wake 2 as well.
>we expect
won't happen because they'll never release it on Steam
most sales happen on consoles
consoles were never responsible for long term sales of games
for the long term, pc is king when it comes to that
you mean people impulse buying games on steam sales and never play them
Not entirely true. PC lagged 33% behind in game sales compared to consoles in 2023
AW 2 is a walking simulator that pretends to be a horror game.
Resident Evil is an action game with actual gameplay that has horror elements.
Silent Hill is an atmospheric/tense horror game with subpar gameplay.
>all that fricking shilling
>for 1.3 mil
The game has been 50% off since like day one. This would equate to *only* about 700 thousand full prices copies.
The game fricking bombed, but it sure is amusing watching you woke idiots claim that it was actually a hit.
How are these people, you know the ones, ever going to gets socialized?
How are they going to find jobs
only 1.3m copies made them break even
how does remedy manage to make AAA games with a much healthier budget than all their fellow developers in the west ?
That's nice.
I actually like Control, Alan Wake, their whole little series. I think it's a fun horror series and Control was an unexpectedly competent SCP-themed game and PSI simulator (female protagonist was super annoying though. Really aggressively dislike where they feel they seemingly *need* to write every female character as a c**t who constantly makes unfunny, annoyed, snarky remarks to themselves about every-fricking-thing). I'm glad to hear they're seeing some success.
I'm still not gonna download Epic. It could be free and I still wouldn't download Epic.
I'm gonna wait for it to launch on Steam.
It's free and doesn't require Epic if you pirate it and you can buy it later if you feel like it.
>female protagonist was super annoying though. Really aggressively dislike where they feel they seemingly *need* to write every female character as a c**t who constantly makes unfunny, annoyed, snarky remarks to themselves
moron did you even play Control? I had the opposite problem, I thought Jesse was a goody two shoes that instantly liked everyone 10 seconds after meeting them and was too eager to help the shady organization that kidnapped her brother. I'd actually prefer it if she was a distrustful b***h as it'd make more sense for her character. Instead she's like "aww the poor little feds are getting killed by the Hiss, we must help them Polaris! " her quips were mostly self-deprecating. Like 99% of this board you have zero understanding of nuance and just want to complain about female characters
>moron did you even play Control?
No, like 99% of nu-/v/. It's nothing but favelaBlack folk mad that they can't run a game made in 2023 on a graphics card that was almost obsolete middleware in 2015, and inventing excuses as to why the grapes are sour and they didn't want them anyway. The quality of this board is honestly the worst it's ever been. Motherfrickers literally don't understand that financial success is measured relative to how many games you sold vs the investment needed to ship the product, unironically making EA/Activision-tier statements like
>if your game isn't selling CoD/FIFA/Minecraft/Asscreed numbers, why was made at all?
Another thing being conveniently omitted here is that the Epic Games Store less than a month after release discounted the game by 53%
That is not a small number
Once again, that was a seasonal sale that Epic offered in an attempt to draw people to their store and ate the cost on with their fortnite money, Remedy still got paid the full 60$.
The funniest shit is when they don't even understands the basic principles of business.
>still got paid the full 60$.
Who knows what the publishing agreement is besides "epic will pay something to remedy after sales exceed development costs"
You are actually right, Remedy certainly aren't getting the full 60$. I just googled it, and the standard cut Epic slices off per sale is 12%, but considering it's an EGS exclusive and they published it, it's probably something like
>we take 50% until the development costs are covered, after that it's 8-10% per sale
MAH BOIIIII
Epic takes 100% until costs are covered then it reverts to 50/50.
https://www.gamedaily.biz/epic-launches-new-publishing-program-with-50-50-profit-sharing-for-developers/
>once costs are recouped, developers earn at least 50% of all profits
>“Epic Games Publishing will cover up to 100% of development costs, from developer salaries to go-to-market expenses such as QA, localization, marketing, and all publishing costs,” Epic said in a press release. “Developers earn a fair share for their work — once costs are recouped, developers earn at least 50% of all profits.”
Seems better deal than what they had for control
>On May 3rd 2017, Remedy announced the signing of a publishing agreement with Digital Bros S.p.A. regarding the Control game, and disclosed Remedy to receive 45% of game sales net revenue. The revenue share is calculated from net sales, which takes into account deductions such as retail and marketing costs of the game. Once the game starts to sell and before paying the game developer, the publisher is typically allowed to deduct upfront specific costs, such as manufacturing and distribution costs of physical game copies as well as marketing costs.
ye Epic's publishing terms are actually very good. If they had done stuff like that from the beginning and not tried to poach a bunch of exclusives off Steam, EGS wouldn't be nearly as hated.
How do I get a Rose gf?
Is that a fake fireplace in a TV stand?
I want to believe they store the logs here.
She can't dance to save her life.
Sam Lake > Hidumbass Kojimoron
sick of this shit in all forms of media. only gays care about the sales of a game, or box office of a film, you aren't getting paid, you aren't a shareholder, you should only care about if you enjoyed playing the game and found value in the time you spent on it jesus christ
Tell that to Barry
I care about AW2 selling well for two reasons
One It means will likely get more Alan Wake games in the future.
and two it means there's a chance will see more survival horror games on the market.
Well its sufficiently critical hit that sales matter less.
Remedy is already developing more stuff in the cinematic universe, they're not going under anytime soon.
>alan wake
>survival horror
whut?
How is it not? everything you'd expect from a classic survival horror game like silent Hill or Resident Evil game is present in AW2 besides the fixed camera
>classic survival horror game like Silent Hill or Resident Evil
Yes?
Okay, my point is that i'm sick of seeing the discussion around this game being focused around sales figures and imaginary woke boogeymen. I really enjoyed it but it's an anomaly. All of Remedy's games are anomalies (except Quantum Bore) and they all sell reasonably well. All I need to know is if the story will continue, I don't care otherwise.
Also no way this will spawn more survival horror games, considering the mechanics of a good survival horror game are only here in a barebones state because it all takes a backseat to Sam Lake going full autist. The best you're getting is whatever comes of the Silent Hill 2 Remake, indie slop and another 50 RE games.
Selling your game is a life and death situation for studios nowadays
Once again, EGS is informational black hole even with media shilling and fawning over "GOTY" game
They probably wouldn't even make to 2 millions by the end of the year, it's quite literally over
Well there's still two AW2 DLC coming up so that's two chances to shill the game again.
I think it's going to reach 2M by the end of the year.
I still don't understand why Ganker seems to hate this game so much when compared to all the other shit out on the market.
At least this game was made with a clear vision made by a creator who clearly loves what he made.
This isn't like the Suicide Squad where it was made by people who hate what they worked on.
You'd think Ganker would be happy a director got to make his own dream project instead of some licenced shit or live service crap.
>at least this movie was made
ftfy, Remedy hasn't made an actual game after the first Max Payne
Why should I care about "MUH AUTEURS"?
The entire initial climax of the game with Saga in the Mind Place getting screwed is complete dogshit because it tries to make you care about the case board. Byt that dogshit """gameplay"""" mechanic only existed to infodump and progress block the player. It was completely braindead. And the musical segment that everyone seems to jerk off to is just Ashtray Maze but even worse. Watcjing it live at TGA is a bettet experience than playing it.
If this is the best Sam Lake can come up with then genuinely just be a fricking show director instead. Decades of TPS experience and this is what they shit out. I spit.
I never understood why people wouldnt like the case board
its such a nice way to track the games progression
>don't use it for a while
>reach a point where you're required to use it
>have to spend 10 minutes putting all the evidence back together
>use it when you have to
>the game starts shitting itself for some reason due to the way the mind palace is overlayed over the actual game world and now your map doesn't load when you press M.
>huh
i appreciate the idea behind the mind palace, but execution sucks.
Because I wanted an ACTUAL case board dumb frick. Not let mary suega solve everything for me. Imagine how much harder the Mind Place climax would have been if the case board wasn't just an arbritrary exposition.
Play Shadows of Doubt. That's a game that lets you genuinely build a case board using collected evidence, deduction, and fulfilling the purpose of the mechanic itself. By seeing connections which you eventually, using your actual head and not being spoonfed, solve.
It works to remind what the narrative is. What person or thing is connected to what. What did you experience past 15 mins, and where things are going.
>It works to remind what the narrative is
Right. That's what I said.
It's a pacing destroying clunky fricking excuse for infodumping.
That would be a super nice mechanic if it only butted in when I fricking asked for it instead of making you shuffle around photos every 30 minutes
I'm ok with the game but it's only real value is the atmosphere
The gameplay is dreadful, the story is convoluded. The game isn't scary. The ambiance is the only real strength it has
>I still don't understand why Ganker seems to hate this game so much
Because Ganker is infested low IQ third worlders who follow american politics obsessed "anti-woke" Britbong welfare leeches like Mauler religiously. Remember though, God of Onions and the last of us TV show are based and redpilled, but AW2 is le WOKE.
Huh, actually informative. However, i will point out
>“Developers earn a fair share for their work — once costs are recouped, developers earn AT LEAST 50% of all profits.”
So they almost certainly have a better deal worked out.
Ofc it'd be nice if Remedy could take the leap and publish the games themselves
I mean you already have digital platforms that handles the payments and distribution.
>troonyshill crying because Ganker is making fun of shit flop game
This board is just full of Taken at this point.
Sam Lake is all soul, and his game was a success. Anyone who's played it knows it.
>The average Ganker poster.
>uhhhh its actually fine okay!?!
People have eyes. No need to cope, Remedy.
Based, frick this woke ass developer
>but what about the STOOCKS
If you haven't noticed, the entire vidya industry is currently tanking. Most companies are laying people off, Remedy is hiring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8MZBUoQt68
I guess as an investor theres room to be actually worried.
>oh they made a 90 metacritic score title with multitude of awards and sells just okay
>what if the next game is 85 metacritic, is it a flop then?
Investors are scared shitless regardless of what they invest in. Most of Ganker is neets and children, so they've missed the fact we've been printing literal billions just to stay afloat during covid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv1n6WdYTeQ
It's because all of those games had a larger marketing budget than Remedy's entire budget for AW2. You can't measure financial success on sales alone, it's all relative to what you invest vs what you earn back.
>cyberpunk 2077 sold millions
>stock drop
>spiderman 2 sold millions
>insomniac gets layoff
>like a dragon IW sold millions
>sega gets layoff
>baldurs gate 3 sold millions
>wizard of the coast layoff 1100
it's always the same story, i wonder if the video game industry is just a one big house of cards
gate 3 sold millions
of the coast layoff 1100
and what does this have to do with Larian, you know, the ones who made the game?
you can't be that moronic, anon
Remedy really should make the push into mobile gacha space to really pump up those stock dividends.
KEK all the seethe in this thread, it's unreal. Months of screaming "THIS SHIT FLOPPED OK???"
compared to bg3, palworld, enshrouded, lies of p, lords of the fallen, granblue, persona 3 and yakuza, alan wake 2 is a flop
ugly Black person woman
not playing
don't care
simple as
1.3 million copies seem low for an AAA title. Not shitposting, just my opinion
Well in absolute terms aw2 development cost 50% of what cdpr spent on cp post launch fixes + dlc.
Remedy is just budget AAA.
>high budget ass game
>1.3mil copies sold
oof, anyway I pirated it
Alan's story sucked dick
Saga's was fine
Overall a big downgrade compared to the first game
1.3m is okay if it wasn't too expensive
You notice how no one really gave a damn about this game until it got dicksucked at the game awards show? And how none of the"fans" even try to look like genuine human beings? This is just TLOU2 all over again. Alan Wake 1 at least was doing cool shit and was an actual GAME about a white man and his white best friend fighting the forces of darkness to save his white wife. While the sequel is about a ugly nigress mary sue and Alan Wake is somewhere in there too.
>I didn't go to the threads before the awards so nobody care
lol?
When was the last time Ganker was happy about a game selling well?
I guess people were cheerful of hogwarts legacy selling well since the Ganker's arch enemy, the trannies that are in the room RIGHT NOW, lost.
P*lworld? Did you just wke up from a coma?
Palworld and Hogwarts probably
Exactly this, Alan wake 2 was astroturfed HARD. Alan Wake 1 wasn't exactly a booming series nor was control, quantum break. Alan wake 2 was talked about in every main stream journo space including TGA and summer games.
What do I care about a game selling? Especially an AAA game with a marketing budget that's supposed to sell. I'm not a shareholder.
The only threads were obvious shilling/marketing threads around the release that then went quiet until the game got dicksucked at the game awards.
Alan Wake 1 is a nice game and the light/darkness mechanics combined with the pretty good use of lighting and shadow + various atmospheric effects like fog make it still a pretty impressive title with a cool stephen king/twin peaks atmosphere. It's not "omg shit your pants" scary at all, but it's a fun shooter with unique enemies and a lot of atmosphere. Alan Wake 2 is a sweet baby movie game for normalgays and coworkers that don't play videogames.
>Threads about a game? All shilling.
Yup, it's Ganker.
Also:
>this game isn't talked on Ganker, therefore it's a flop!
>but also if it's talked on Ganker, then it's all shilling
>acts like a person trying to sell a product and manufacture hype and not a genuine human being
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I AM A SHILL???????????????????????
EVERY TIME. Hey, here's a tip for starters - normal people don't give a damn about game sales. Those are important to the people who made the game and their shareholders, not the players.
I've been lurking these threads since pre-release, and all you motherfrickers talked about was how WOKE it supposedly was and how everyone who liked the game was a SHILL SHILL SHILL, because apparently nobody bought it. Of course, now that it's proven that the game actually did sell well, anyone discussing the fact that the game did sell well is also a shill. How convenient.
>dec: it sold 1 mill
>everyone knows that this is a gigaflop for a game this expensive
>shill: reeeeeeeeeeee
>2 months later: it sold 300k more with heavy discountry
>still a giant flop
>shill: SEE THIS PROVES IT WAS A SUCCESS
what mental illness possesses people to behave like this
How is it a flop if it sold faster than their previous games, and those games sold well over time?
>i-its selling fast!!!
Cope. You were mocked when you acted like 1 million is an achievement for an AAA game getting this much dicksucking, 300 thousand more doesn't change things.
Not even that anon, but wouldn't call Remedy AAA company, more like A or AA. You can cry about it all day but AW2 is a hit for them and it's going to sell well in a long term. Keep coping and seething
The only reason Control sold well long term is because it had a hyped up Ultimate Edition rerelease on Steam. That push alone made them an extra million and a half.
>The only reason Control sold well
it helped that it was a decent game and one of the rare games that had RT looking good.
Despite Christoph Waltz playing the female lead.
>A or AA
Get your head out of your ass. “A” studios don’t get bankrolled by Epic Games.
>I've been lurking these threads since pre-release, and all you motherfrickers talked about was how WOKE
It's a sweet baby game with a b***hy nigress protagonist. Also nice reddit image. Lurk more.
also
>continues babbling about the game "selling well" while ignoring my point that normal people don't give a damn about game sales.
meant for
shit I hate this Ganker x shit
Palworld
Zelda TotK
How can a game that's exclusive to Epic sell well?
It's an Epic exclusive because the developers had 0 faith it would sell well, they literally pay for everything even if you game bombs
Two reasons:
1) It's also available on consoles
2) It was 50% off during the holiday sale thanks to the normal discount + the EGS coupon
If a game is on epic the developers don't expect it to sell well, that's why Timmy foots the bill and pays a lot of money for the game. Epic also hides their numbers and it can't be seen as easily as steam numbers
>1.2m in four months
>good
A shitty demake of Fursona sold more in a month.
>The price point has also remained at a high level, and the game has already recouped a significant part of the development and marketing expenses. We will continue to develop the game to serve existing fans and attract new players and expect the game to continue selling well
What the frick are they doing if the game still hasn't broken even yet? How much did this cost?
Hahaha get fricked Alan Woke tards, it's a flop, straight from the CEOs mouth
AW1 only made 300k at it's first month, since it released at the same time with RDR2, and that game still become a cult classic and sold itself back over the years. Same thing happened with Control, and it's going to happen with AW2, it's going to sell well over the years. It's just a stable with Remedy games, they always had a strong long-term selling games. Cope and seethe
Didn't alan wake 1 fricking suck? I remember playing it and it was so fricking mind numbingly boring that I think I wanted to shoot myself while playing it. I will pirate it if someone can convince me.
Eh, its alright. Not a lot of enemy variety to keep it fresh later on and its one of the ugliest games ever made.
it's jank af... and a retread of Steven King cliches in vidya form... it's alright if you like the survival horror type of games, it's absolutely okay game but I don't why the devs decided it was some masterpiece or something to based some metaverse bullshit on it...
I mean, for a horror game it's not very scary at all and it does have a lot of "walking" parts, plus the day scenes drag on a little - however the atmosphere is top notch and the mechanics of fighting enemies with light are pretty neat. It's a pretty cool shooter and it still looks genuinely really good for its age, especially when you're in an area that lets you appreciate the lighting & shadows. Genuinely better graphics than in a lot of games coming out today. i saw some guy talking how this game was behind the times graphically back then and looks really bad but I genuinely have no idea what the hell he was talking about, maybe he was playing it on low settings on a potato pc
I played the remake on a pc recently and the forests just look like gray smog
I can go outside right now and have way better time visually
that's crazy cuz i don't know a single person who actually played this game
The homosexual spamming twitter gifs is the worst attempt at astroturfing I've ever seen
Are the twitter gifs in the room right now?
Overrated writer's wank for redditors, Control 2 when.
Alan Wake has never been good, why would I care about the sequel?
That really isn't saying much though
>had a massive fricking journo shill campaign for it
>ended with a MASSIVE jerk off fest at the awards show
>1.3m
kek
glad to see """critics""" no longer have the shilling power they used to have
even better anon, the game selling one million was already said back in december
and everybody roundly mocked it for selling like shit
now shill are trying to retcon this huge failure 2 months later as massive success somehow
LMAO
>troony troony troony TRANN-
Don't point out the fact that the only people who dislike the game are morbidly obese gay welfare leeches obsessed with American politics, who think being born British makes them a genius media analysts.
Don't point out the fact that the only people who "like" this game agressively insist that a game released under the wing of Sweet Baby, a company existing only to put woke shit into videogames, somehow isn't woke
Maybe you shouldn't watch shitty clickbait/ragebait videos from said british grifters and you should actually play the fricking game and come to your own conclusions, homosexual.
I played the first game and enjoyed it. You didn't even care about Alan Wake until Alan Wake 2 started getting deepthroated by the media. Enjoy playing sweet baby shit and insisting that it's not woke.
Good for them? How does them making money affect me? I am not a investor or shareholder.
>Alan Wake
Woke trash.
>actually did not understand the game whatsoever
Many such cases.
lest we forget this masterpiece of a review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n451Go1_d_U
>game has a Black person
>Black person means its woke
>4/10
Daily reminder that this dude is apparently a convicted child abuser brutally beating a child type of abuse, not sexual. So heckin' BASED AND REDPILLED FELLOW CONSERVATIVES. Reminder that Sam Lake who is a happily married right-wing christian is le WOKE though, because he doesn't give a frick about race.
>Reminder that Sam Lake who is a happily married right-wing christian is le WOKE though, because he doesn't give a frick about race.
Is that why he teamed up with Sweet Baby, a company that exists only to insert woke shit into videogames, and changed the race of a woman that was shown to be white?
eat your schido meds
>Americans think that taking copious amounts of drugs daily is normal/common
Why are they like this? Is it because their pharmaceutical industry has a death grip on their country?
>SBI says they worked on Alan Wake therefore that means it was SBI that told Remedy to turn Saga Anderson into a black character
you are legitimately moronic if you believe this.
Literally did not happen, and they say so on their own website. Once again, try watching less shit outrage-bait videos from moronic politics grifters and play more games.
Yes. He's an opioid addict and alcoholic, and beat his spouse and their child so badly he's only allowed supervised visits.
Because i am also a chud, i'm just not an illiterate troglodyte subhuman like the people who hate this game.
>Literally did not happen
Oh? So Alan Wake 2 was never "approved" by Sweet Baby and Sara is a white woman?
I've been watching Worth a buy for years. is that really true?
>happily married Christian
Why are you playing and supporting this chud game??
I unsubscribed from Mack because his videos are pure pandering, I'm as anti woke as the next guy but Mack beats you over the head with it
He's also horrible at games, and the story with his broken arm/wife is pathetic, can't take him serious after that
lots of people who lean into a political group end up going down the pandering rabbit hole and eventually the people who aren't politically motivated and just want neutral opinions are alienated
I don't care for control, protagonist is a charisma void. They need to change her completely for 2
Dylan will probably be a co-protagonist and you'll find yourself missing Jesse due to how aggravating he'll be. But yes, you're correct, Jesse is a charisma void.
>fastest selling
>hasn't made a profit
Kek
Ok, but it still doesn’t look fun and I don’t know anyone who has played it.
Remedy is one of the most irrelevant developers currently. Hardly anyone knew Alan Wake 2 was even a thing until it got shilled hard at the game awards.
All this fricking shilling and Helldivers, the Sony GaaS game everyone expected to flop, made 1M in 4 days.
Three niche JRPGs hit a million in less than a month.
And yet another survival crafting game that released right next to Palworld still did a million.
Some fricking shota hentai game sold a million.
Blasphemous sold a million.
ff16 sold 3 million in its first week.
That game probably had way bigger budget, marketing campaign and sale expectations so not really comparable
>ok well uhhh they uhhh had a way bigger budget (bigger than 50mil minimum like AW2 had I swear) and and-
Palworld.
Sure, palworld was a huge success but AW2 was successful for Remedy's goals, didn't sell quarillion copies but enough for them to have multiple games in development in the future
Except they didn't sell enough, most of their games don't as they continue having to prostitute themselves out to various companies
True, all their good assets like Max Payne are gone, now they are pushing this SCP meets Woddy Allen on shrooms ripoff as the "Remedyverse"
Once again Ganker has been utterly and completely BTFO
Big win for people who actually play vidya
>playing vidya
Alan Wake 2 is for those kinds of people that talk at work about how they're super cool gamers and only play shit like GTA5 and RDR2, only to switch into the fluoride stare and react with apathy and disgust when someone brings up other kinds of games
>SBI says they worked on Alan Wake therefore that means it was SBI that told Remedy to turn Saga Anderson into a black character
Yes? That is what they do. You are genuinely moronic if you don't understand what Sweet Baby does despite them literally explaining it to everyone in big letters.
>Yes? That is what they do.
No anon, what they do is give script advice.
Do you want to know what actually happened?
Remedy wanted the same actress from the QB clip to reprise her role as Saga Anderson. She was currently filming some Sweedish TV show or some shit during the time that Remedy had to mocap and record the Saga Anderson character, so they went to find someone new.
Of the prospective hires, only one of them was able to do the work in the timeframe AND had previous mo-cap experience, and that's the black lady they went with.
They then, a couple of white dudes, wrote the script where you play as a black lady for a decent bit.
They then took that script and shot it over to SBI to have them help out with anything that needs touching up, and since it's a group of white dudes writing a black lady, SBI had some input on how to better write the Saga Anderson character and make her feel more natural.
That's quite literally it. And yet every single one of you idiots on here seem to think that it was SBI's decision to change a character to black, as if they have that kind of say or power to dictate things. You guys are just as bad as the left with their TDS.
Whats the source of wanting to use same actress? I know they wanted to use the same guy for Door characters who is black and is sagas father, so its a bit weird if they wanted to use a white actor for saga.
>They then took that script and shot it over to SBI to have them help out with anything that needs touching up, and since it's a group of white dudes writing a black lady, SBI had some input on how to better write the Saga Anderson character and make her feel more natural.
This should be pretty obvious to anyone who isn't a schizoid. You just use consulting talent to fix up your writing teams lack of knowledge.
Sam Lake in an interview aruond the time the game released mentioned that they needed to replace Saga due to scheduling issues and the actress they went with surprised them with how knowledgable of the mo-cap process she was.
I work in the construction industry and deal with consultants at least once a week, more often than not it's upwards of half a dozen times a week. They don't have the power that you idiots seem to think they do.
>construction
Okay so you don’t work an office job. Consultants are a bit different here.
>Consultants are a bit different here.
They are the same in every field.
How many consultants do you have in construction that focus on DEI sensitivity training?
>Okay so you don’t work an office job
I've literally never stepped foot on a jobsite in my 15 year career. I worked in offices for a bit but have been working from home for the last decade.
I still deal with the wienersuckers on at least a once weekly basis from zoom and teams meetings.
>Whats the source of wanting to use same actress?
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Alan Wake 2 got funded and then canceled several times over the 13 year period, and Malla Malmivaara was supposed to play her. When they called her again, she refused because she's an actress and a singer, she recently gave birth, and she already had her entire work schedule get fricked by the game several times.
>Malla Malmivaara was supposed to play her. When they called her again, she refused because she's an actress and a singer, she recently gave birth, and she already had her entire work schedule get fricked by the game several times.
They obviously casted her at quantum break scene, but at some point they'd have to make narrative decisions like what sagas role in the story is, what her powers are, how she is related to other characters ingame. You would've had to cast warling as a white guy if they planned to use white actress for saga, then you would've had the entire cast be bunch of finns while the game is set in usa.
also Door is a not-so-subtle expy of Hatch from QB who was black
>you’d have to have a bunch of white people in a game taking place in one of America’s whitest states
Oh no…!
Does being a pol grifter pay well
So the original mocap/face actress was in fact Malla Malmivaara, a Finnish woman, just like the mocap/face actress for Alan is a Ilkka Villi, a Finnish actor, because it's cheaper and easier than flying in Americans. Like Ilkka says in the video i posted, he himself didn't believe Alan Wake 2 would happen this time around either because it was already 100% confirmed to be habbening and then cancelled four times. The AW2 we got is the fifth one.
>he doesn't know
Get a job, neet. That shit is everywhere, because you literally don't get investments unless you comply with that shit.
>get a job, neet
I do, in an office. I’m not sitting on the side of a road doing jackshit for 4 years like construction “””””””workers””””””” on their “job”site.
So then you should already know that the diversity & inclusivity mafia enforces that shit everywhere.
Yeah, I have first hand experience with it. I was saying that I didn’t think that consultants working in construction would be the same way
>yeah we think this project should be built this way to adhere to safety standard X
As opposed to
>we noticed your finance department doesn’t have any non-binary Dominicans, you need to fix that
Well you have safety consultants that do exactly that, and then you have the identity politics hustlers complaining the company doesn't have enough black transgender paraplegics working for it in order to qualify for ESG funding and therefore you need to heckin' pay the carbon tax. So it's an extra layer of bullshit red tape.
>they only [headcanon]
What industry do you work in? Have you seriously never dealt with consultants in any capacity? Deloitte?
>it came to me in a dream
why are shills like this?
Anon, please don't waste your breath on these creatures. These are people who needed to be killed as children.
>These are people who needed to be killed as children.
Because when they were 5. they bought into American idpol drivel and started spewing ideological horseshit, after they got indoctrinated by browsing imageboards in their teens, right? And anon isn't wasting his breath, the truth points to itself as one ambassador once said, despite people cowering that their blackwashing narratives are falling apart when presented with clear cut evidence there was no grand conspiracy at work, but were scheduling differences that made the previous actress impossible to repeat her role as Saga. What he is doing is being a beacon of light in a heap of trash, daring to go against the reactionary grain who has become so accustomed to their circlejerk that they lost sight of perspective, actual rational reasoning and real life, in exchange for isolating themselves into a dark corner of the internet where they get fed with "truths", fearing any and all opposition that would put their frail ideological immune systems to scrutiny.
>schizo aggressively samegayging paragraphs of schizo nonsense
why do crappy games induce such mental illness? it's like Dark Souls 2 all over again
>Alan Wake 2 is for those kinds of people that ... play [vidya]
Yeah that's what I said
People who play shit like GTA5 or RDR2 are not "gamers". Are people who only watch Netflix originals passionate movie fans?
Alright, humor me, what does someone need to play to be a real """GAMER""" according to you, the expert?
Having actual interest in videogames and playing all kinds of vidya, not just shit that is currently "viral" or a "hot new thing".
Not developing the Fluoride Stare when someone starts talking about games that are not Fifa or Call Of Duty
Not sucking off "cinematic experiences"
Not defending Sweet Baby.
>can't name 1 (ONE) game to prove his point
Yep, thought as much. Too busy sperging out here to play any vidya. Sad!
NTA but Palworld, Mechwarrior, and Age of Wonders. Boom. You lose.
>Palworld
Mmm, sorry, that's too "viral" and "hot new thing" for me.
>Sleeping Dogs
>You're not a real gamer unless you play knockoff GTA instead of real GTA
epic, I can tell you're a real gamer cause you said the Black personword too
I am kneeling
>uh uhhhh *shits pants*
Mechwarrior, Age of Wonders, and Craftopia. Boom. You lose.
>Just googled whatever Palworld's devs did last
Keep trying, kid, you're simply not a REAL gamer if you play open world survival crafting games.
>uhhhh no that uhh doesn’t count okay????
Mechwarrior, Age of Wonders, and Swirl W@tch. If you haven’t cleared a level 5 sector with no additional tools or upgrades you aren’t a real gamer.
>look up Swirl W@tch
>30 all-time reviews
How do you even find these kinds of games?
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
Call of Juarez Gunslinger
Star Sector
Hyper Light Drifter
Heat Signature
Enslaved: Odyssey To The West
Marlow Briggs and The Mask of Death
Binary Domain
World In Conflict
Sleeping Dogs
Way of The Samurai
Bushido Blade
Monster Hunter Freedom
There you go Black person
Roughly 90 and some change in revenue
75 million dollar dev budget
It’s not much but it’s a profit, still not playing it til it’s significantly on sale
Not taking into account marketing. Marketing alone is another $50 mil (seriously it is ridiculous how much they charge you)
It's crazy just how badly this one game has mind broken Ganker
It's like everytime this game gets mentioned now fat morons on Ganker shit themselves in pure rage.
The only "mindbroken" ones are corporate dicksuckers like you. You forgot how to even act like a genuine human being.
>n-nooo you don't understand, only a black woman was available to play the role of a white woman!
Uh huh.
>where you play as a black lady for a decent bit.
They then took that script and shot it over to SBI to have them help out with anything that needs touching up, and since it's a group of white dudes writing a black lady, SBI had some input on how to better write the Saga Anderson character and make her feel more natural.
>sweet baby
>natural
You know what anon, go ahead and keep thinking the way you are. I'm sure it won't cause myriad mental issues when you think literally everything is a conspiracy to erase the white man from existence. You'll be a perfectly healthy and adjusted individualy that totally won't shoot up a school or church or grocery store when you inevitably snap
>You'll be a perfectly healthy and adjusted individualy that totally won't shoot up a school or church or grocery store when you inevitably snap
>they didn’t do anything! they just did the thing that you said they did
>and that’s a good thing!
Uh huh…
That is fricking pathetic considering the amount of money and marketing they put into this game.
But they literally barely marketed it. The little marketing they did didn't even do as much for their sales as the pc requirements controversy or the tga dance.
A SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!
Those numbers are awful.
AW2 had a huge marketing push, was nominated for awards and gaming sites were running articles about it daily for like 2 months.
Remedy might not make a penny from this for like another year, since Epic financed it and all money goes to them until they make their money back.
Sweet baby won.
I think you're the first person in 3 months to even talk about this game here outside of the paid shill threads during it's 1 month of release.
Why would someone genuinely wanting to talk about the game make a thread on a place filled with alt right conspiracy nuts obsessed with having sex with toddlers
If you genuinely believe that then what are you still doing here gaytron?
How about check aw2 threads and count the posts of people who bought and played the game vs people who didnt
You're not going to trick me into playing a game of "Finding a needle in a haystack" anon.
Answer the fricking question
instead of trying to swap subjects like a b***h or broken AI.
If you believe that horseshit then why are you STILL here?
I don't believe this. Websites were begging people to buy it and not forget it last month. I think this is way to save face Sweet Baby Inc from investors after the disaster of Suicide Squad.
continue coping
There's nothing to cope
why are you trying to cope so hard then?
FROM WHAT I'VE GATHERED
YOU GREW UP NICE AND SHELTERED
WITH MOMMA'S LITTLE STORIES
AND YOUR OWN MADE UP FURRRRRRIIIIIIEEEEEEESSSSSS
he fricking won
>sales
Who cares?
>doritos awards
Who cares?
The game is shit.
>I have to enter this thread to say that I don't care!
Lmao
Gratz, I guess?
>sweet baby won
>black saga won
>sam lake won
>Ganker lost
Definitely trying to make sweet baby look good after after Suicide Squad disaster. Still going to avoid any game they're associated with like the plague.
mindbroken
Not buying your games sweet baby fricker.
seethe harder
test
Nice try sweet baby fricker
>Palworld had more concurrent players than all AW2 sales combined together
wew
And wow made more money from a single horse armor than starcraft 2
based
The meltdown over this was also pretty funny.
>this troony walks up to Sam Lake
>"Hey i'm a huge fan and a big youtube influencer, can i feature in your coffee drinking tik-toks?"
>"yeah, sure"
>they film a 10 second video on Sam Lake's phone camera and he posts it online
>the BASED AND REDPILLED white nationalists (who are totally not obsessed, closeted homosexuals who spend 10 hours a day gooning to the sad pornos of this dude in a dress reluctantly sucking dick for a living) lose their shit and claim this is proof Sam Lake is LE WOKE
>Sam Lake moves on with his life never knowing or caring that it was a former pornstar troony
>words words words
Haha, uh… yeah man…
But it's the truth, though. After that video was posted, it was literally a week of non-stop emotional meltdown threads about it, when literally no normal, heterosexual man knows anything about sphere hunter besides the fact they make game review videos on youtube. If you spend every waking moment obsessing over and stalking this troony's social media and who they interact with, i've got news for you; You're a homosexual. And not only are you a homosexual, you're a weird, parasocial homosexual.
>you’re an [f-word]
Yikes… another terminally online chud. What would your employer think of this language, I wonder? :3
Imagine what these people could do with their lives, if only they didn't choose to waste their limited time on Earth and decided to not obsess over ideological drivel they got indoctrinated into by browsing imageboards. Truly makes the noggin joggin.
iam just posting here to say AW2 was the most fun singleplayer game i played since forever
absolute kino experience from beginning to end
thank you sam lake and please dont make me wait too long on the dlc
I'm positively surprised by this and am glad for Remedy, but it could have sold even better if the game wasn't so technically demanding.
It wasnt demanding, it runs on series S
In the end it was just FUD by the devs posting misleading hardware requirement chart
I could run AC VI on high in fluid 60 FPS, but my PC wasn't even good enough to star AW2 and to play it in suboptimal 30 fps. So yeah, it is technically demanding, one of the most technically demanding games on PC in recent years next to Cyberpunk 2077.
cp is not technically demanding, it scales very well across different hardware tiers. It was made to run on ps4 even
Depends how you wanna optimize playing it, but if you want a preferable experience, you need to have a strong PC. Same goes for AW2.
Doesn't matter, I intend to buy a new PC at the end of 2024 so I can run AW2 on high as it was intended to be played. I waited for a decade to play it, what's 10 months more?
Well if you're buying a 5090 to play them with full ray tracing suite you're gonna have a great time
Specs? Works on my Ryzen 5 3600, and that's bread and butter as far requirememts go.
Starfield is another story.
>1.3 million
Remedy and Microsoft have to be pulling some kind of tax scam right? How the hell else are they able to get away with flop after flop? I can't even think of another studio that has lived as long after a string of flops like they have.
troony game.
>oh no a black woman woke woke woke woke woke woke woke
if this is you, have a nice day
Go eat some fried chicken, a negress being a detective is as believable as the kids off your virginity
I take offense to your besmirching of fried chicken.
Astro turfed trash, no one even heard of this shit prior to the game awards.
define astro turfed without googling it
it means replacing your lawn with a bad video game
What if instead of plastic video game you use a real live one that comes in rolls
>no one even heard of this shit
Suuuuuure, the original never existed and its fans haven't been loud enough for the past decade about wanting a sequel, no no!
>alan wake 2 cost 70 millions euro to develop
>alan wake 1 was considered a flop by microsoft and remedy which sold 3 million copies at the time
TOTAL CHUD VICTORY!
They made an Alan Wake 2?
he woke up twice?
>Alan Wake 2 is Remedy's fastest selling game ever
So which of there games outsold it? 🙂
noice
Would have played it if the black chick was gone, anyone whose spent time around black women know how horrible they are.
Palworld sold 15x moee
I'm holding off playing this until I get an OLED monitor
did you watch this vid?
watch what? Three buttholes just talking out of their asses?
3 people talk about alan wake 2 and similar games, ips glow and oled monitors
I know this might be hard for a turboBlack person to understand but the video is somewhat related to the post it replies to.