>othering >view or treat (a person or group of people) as intrinsically different from and alien to oneself
I keep forgetting it's everybody now, not just kotaku, that posts this shit.
Polygon was always worse, Kotaku at least occasionally had some interesting stuff from Schreier before he left... Polygon was always just straight trash like literally docking points from Bayo 2 because it was too sexy
So being exotic is a bad thing now? I play japanese games because they ARE different for me. They are exotic and that's why I play Kingdom Hearts instead of the latest western moviegame labelled as RPG.
JRPG was never an official term with any actual definition besides just 'japanese role playing game' which is why its mostly used as a vague descriptor
im not that anon but i call Souls games JRPG's and i am neither wrong nor right as its subjective as long as its a japanese game with vague role playing elements
people have created their own definitions to better define the terms of themes or gameplay, but none of them are requirements, and mostly just one autists definition vs anothers
Of course Souls are JRPGs you frickin moron. That's why Rivers of Blood and Moonveil were busted OP in week 1. This would never happen in a Western game. They would just have katanas break in half after one swing
Black person you are the one arguing technicalities. There are no technicalities with 'RPG made in Japan by Japanese Developers = JRPG'. You are the one going "well technically it's an RPG made in Japan but it doesn't fulfill my personal criteria for what a JRPG should be like so it's not a JRPG."
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So why does no one call Elden Ring a JRPG outside of these idiotic threads?
>And yet souls games are not considered JRPGs
Dark Souls origins come from the King's Field series, which is rooted in western inspired RPG design. So i don't consider this the norm from Japanese developers and it's a western inspired RPG. The problem with calling it a JRPG is the long established trends of design in this genre. It's not to say those games don't exist from Japan, they're just a very small minority.
Are they aware that the Japanese themselves seem to think their RPG tradition is one that is uniquely their own? I mean for frick's sake they played NieR and Dragon Quest music at the Olympics, they clearly see JRPGs as part of their unique cultural heritage. I think it's quite appropriate to let them have their own category.
It's a label for an identifiable category. Not every rpg made in Japan will fit in to it. It is however a category of games that have primarily been made in Japan for a Japanese audience.
Wow. So othering.
You're right. Square Enix does not deserve the honorable label of JRPG anymore. Only good stuff like Xenoblade 2, Fire Emblem Three Houses, and Persona 5 deserve that honor for being the highest standard of quality that Ganker comes to expect
And that’s why I’ve never played or liked jrpgs. They’re games made by and for disgusting foreigners.
Reminder that if you play anything but western made games you’re a treasonous weak homosexual.
Games Journalists: >The 'JRPG' label has always been othering
Also Games Journalists: >Japanese culture is not valid if it depicts viewpoints that diverge from my own even slightly, and products coming from Japan must be sanitized in order to be acceptable to consume.
this guy gets it. The whole Yoshi-P thing was him talking about how western journos are racist as frick about how they talk about Japanese games in general, he just worded it poorly because... well he's speaking a foreign language so things don't come across perfectly.
It's appropriate honestly. It's a good indicator of differentiation between styles of fantasy. When i want to play an RPG that is somewhat influenced by Tolkien in themes or anything like that, then I'm not likely looking for something that comes from Japan. There's the exception of From Software, but by and large that's not what they put out.
>What are you playing there, sport? >A japanese RPG called Final Fantasy, Dad >WHAT THE FRICK DID YOU SAY? NO SON OF MINE IS PLAYING A GODDAMN asiatic GAME, DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ZIPPERHEAD SLANTS DID TO US IN WWII?
>JRPG is an othering term
dragon quest 11 is just like fallout new vegas
these games are exactly the same!
japan is constantly putting out rpgs like the bottom one, right? where are they though?
There's a lot of genre terms that you could argue are completely stupid. But this is not one of them and it should remain the way it is. Unless Japan starts putting out games like Baldurs Gate, Fallout and Elder Scrolls more often. Then i could potentially see the argument of the terms becoming more meaningless, but that isn't what's popular over there anyway. So it should only ever remain subject to change and JRPG should stay the norm. There are very difference audiences between these types of games. Asking for it to be removed is essentially creating a categorization nightmare.
we don't call them "Japanese Action Games" or "Japanese Strategy Games" or "Japanese Puzzle Games". Why should RPGs the only category where the games are segregated like this?
>what's poyo poyo? >Oh it's a japanese puzzle game where >AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
JRPGs othered themselves by being how they are and copying Dragon Quest instead of following Ultima. It's a different type of game so it's a different genre.
I mean compare this to Ultima, Wizardy or Might and Magic. It's always been clear what the differences are. They actually had to make the covers of retro JRPGs in the west look more western inspired in artstyle so people would buy them. If they had put stuff like this on the cover it would not have sold.
>Why should RPGs the only category where the games are segregated like this?
Themes and artstyle. You could call them animeRPGs instead i guess, but JRPG is already established so there's no reason not to use it. That's at least my understanding of the differences, there's probably something I'm missing at a deeper level than surface.
>no you can't term "JRPG" because it's racist chud >this game is bad because it's too japanese. the industry needs to move on from japanese trends and stop promoting japanese people
why are they like this?
Wait, people still think it's derogatory?
WRPGs don't feel like JRPGs. Or those games that still call themselves CRPGs, to differentiate from the table top pen and paper RPGs out there.
I thought it's just a way to say where it's from, I never once thought it was derogatory.
Now eurojank on the other hand, that's different.
>Because design trends have increasingly homogenized between Japanese and Western games, the term "JRPG" has become a poor way to describe a game's effective genre
Or something like that. It's a decent argument to bring up if you don't phrase it like a games journalist
Eastern and western games arent homogenized at fricking all unless you include shit like final homosexualry 16, and even then the combat is obviously japanese
It's fricking wrong though. Even a modern JRPG is very different from a modern WRPG. Show me a big name WRPG that is even remotely similar to Tales of Arise or Ryuu ga Gotoku 7.
>no ability to impact the story in any meaningful way >no way to solve problems except through combat >choices presented to the player rarely make any difference
why do we call them rpgs at all? rpgs are more than just number go up
The real problem with JRPGs is that they're barely games. They're just cutscene after cutscene, and the "gameplay" is just watching attack animations play out, inbetween boring menuing. You look at any discussion, and it's always revolved around "bro the waifus be hot as frick, bro!" or "dude the game said that revenge is le bad, it's so deep and artistic".
The genre has stagnated for decades now, and if you want to prove me wrong, show me a JRPG that's not afraid to discard its story entirely. Show me a JRPG that doesn't even need a story, it's not afraid to just have 4 guys in a row and beat up monsters for EXP, just because it's fun.
>b-but fun needs context
No it doesn't. >but most JRPGs have 100 hours of gameplay
None of which is good, if it's apparently so boring that you need a cutscene telling you to have fun.
Clicked into the video randomly and it was a boss fight, lol
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Anonymous
>click into the video randomly >it's a boss fight >99% of the time is sitting in one place while dialogue plays out >cinematic attack animation that goes on for hours >player just sits there and does nothing
Riveting gameplay.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Play the game
11 months ago
Anonymous
As soon as I can find the gameplay, sure.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Weak bait. I hope this is just 1 autist sperging out.
>being parked infront of cutscenes for 6 hours, so you can be lectured to, isn't considered long
How ironic that
JRPG is a good term
Because it 99.9% of the time means I am going to play a fun game without getting preached at like westernslop does, or have ugly as sin characters.
laments about western games doing it, but now it's okay if there's femboys and anime waifus?
Nocturne probably has 3 hours of cutscenes MAX, that video is also a ton of gameplay
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why is "reading dialogue" considered gameplay? That's like saying that God of War and Uncharted have alot of gameplay, when it's just walking down hallways with exposition sprinkled over it.
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Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
Whoops. I forgot that cutscenes count as gameplay when it comes to JRPGs. How clumsy of me.
That's not story, that's background motivation you'd find in a manual in a 5-second dialog box. After that, the "story" literally ceases existing until you kill the Dragon King. It literally has as much plot as your average Mario game, and most people consider those games plotless. >t. actually played the game instead of just looking at it on YouTube
What kind of moronic bullshit this? Absolutely not true and anyone who grew up in the late 90s knows this. The term used to be seen as a badge of a quality game and for the longest time was synonymous with just the term "RPG" because wRPGs were so insignificant and were the curious novelty of the genre until Morrowind came along.
jrpg is obviously supposed to denote a certain style of game that is popular in japan so why the frick is calling it a jrpg some racist nazi shit
goddamn people just love to make problems out of such inane shit every day now
JRPG is a good term
Because it 99.9% of the time means I am going to play a fun game without getting preached at like westernslop does, or have ugly as sin characters.
I mean CRPG was a distinction within the west for many years too to let you know it was going to be extra autistic.
JRPG has always been Ultima dumbed down for babies. And we've always been willing to call things like S/T/A/RPG's out of Japan an S/T/A/RPG even if they're cringe anime as frick. It's really just about how the game actually plays that gets it stuck with the JRPG label.
wrong
if it's from japan, it's a jrpg
thats it
japans deserves it's distinction because they choose to create their own systems and innovate
wrpgs base almost everything off of d&d
>historical baggage
The historical baggage of being used by nerds to differentiate Final Fantasy from Baldur's Gate.
God fricking damn even this term makes me rage. "Baggage." It's such a fricking sitcom word. Normal fricking people just say history. "Historical baggage." Like, "Oh, I'm going to act like I know shit about frick and this is an important essay about society, and I'm going to talk like a Sex and the City Character while I do it."
I get what Yoshi P is saying but the JRPG style is clearly a distinct formula and one that more people respect than write off these days. I don't think rejecting the JRPG classification is smart granding at all, especially when you're continuing the legacy of games from the genre's the golden age. This is shameful insecurity, Square Enix should be proud of the JRPG history and tradition - it's 40 years old ffs
If you don't want to get offended by the term then would animeRPGs be more suitable? you're still get othered no matter how you want to slice it. You can't even abbreviate that because you're conflicting with another sub genre known as Action RPG lol
All the persona games are jrpgs
The frick is ottering
Is it like otter mode where a dude is super skin with a bare minimum of muscle?
>The JRPG label has always been othering
You talk like a gay and your shits all moronic.
The JRPG label has always been a sign that the RPG won't be inherently shit.
>won't
othering?
>othering
>view or treat (a person or group of people) as intrinsically different from and alien to oneself
I keep forgetting it's everybody now, not just kotaku, that posts this shit.
Polygon was always worse, Kotaku at least occasionally had some interesting stuff from Schreier before he left... Polygon was always just straight trash like literally docking points from Bayo 2 because it was too sexy
shut the frick up you wienersucking homosexual
So being exotic is a bad thing now? I play japanese games because they ARE different for me. They are exotic and that's why I play Kingdom Hearts instead of the latest western moviegame labelled as RPG.
>othering
Did they forget the B???
I’m going to keep saying JRPG because they biggest proponents in the industry that are calling it racist haven’t made a good game in years.
>why does jrpg label even exist, idk seems kinda racist yall :/
To label rpgs made in Japan, a country that develops lots of RPGs
And yet souls games are not considered JRPGs right?
You are taking polygons side because you're a contrarian homosexual, I presume
JRPG was never an official term with any actual definition besides just 'japanese role playing game' which is why its mostly used as a vague descriptor
im not that anon but i call Souls games JRPG's and i am neither wrong nor right as its subjective as long as its a japanese game with vague role playing elements
people have created their own definitions to better define the terms of themes or gameplay, but none of them are requirements, and mostly just one autists definition vs anothers
Of course Souls are JRPGs you frickin moron. That's why Rivers of Blood and Moonveil were busted OP in week 1. This would never happen in a Western game. They would just have katanas break in half after one swing
They are RPG games made in Japan. Of course they are JRPGs.
>And yet souls games are not considered JRPGs
No one says this but the voices in your head
Because they're not.
JRPG does not simply mean an RPG made in Japan no matter how much morons repeat it.
If someone says "i like JRPGs" you don't ask "did you like Elden Ring?"
Sushi doesn't become Italian food if you order it in Rome.
>JRPG does not simply mean an RPG made in Japan
That is quite literally what it means.
Language doesn't care about technicalities, autismo.
Yes, TECHNICALLY it could mean that. In actuality, it does not.
You Will Never Be Japanese
Black person you are the one arguing technicalities. There are no technicalities with 'RPG made in Japan by Japanese Developers = JRPG'. You are the one going "well technically it's an RPG made in Japan but it doesn't fulfill my personal criteria for what a JRPG should be like so it's not a JRPG."
So why does no one call Elden Ring a JRPG outside of these idiotic threads?
Because it's called a Soulsborne game.
>And yet souls games are not considered JRPGs
Dark Souls origins come from the King's Field series, which is rooted in western inspired RPG design. So i don't consider this the norm from Japanese developers and it's a western inspired RPG. The problem with calling it a JRPG is the long established trends of design in this genre. It's not to say those games don't exist from Japan, they're just a very small minority.
they are, since they are not woke games
They are.
they are action rpgs.
They aren't RPG to begin with
>To label rpgs made in Japan
False
Are they aware that the Japanese themselves seem to think their RPG tradition is one that is uniquely their own? I mean for frick's sake they played NieR and Dragon Quest music at the Olympics, they clearly see JRPGs as part of their unique cultural heritage. I think it's quite appropriate to let them have their own category.
The people arguing for OP’s shit are white Americans, anon
So she probably didn't even consult any Japanese people for the article huh
Naoki Yoshida isn't Japanese?
It's a label for an identifiable category. Not every rpg made in Japan will fit in to it. It is however a category of games that have primarily been made in Japan for a Japanese audience.
Wow. So othering.
It's funny how the japs genuinely seethe about that GDC when they have no reason to.
clickbait screencap thread
OP should kill himself from shame, but of course he won't COWARD
You're right. Square Enix does not deserve the honorable label of JRPG anymore. Only good stuff like Xenoblade 2, Fire Emblem Three Houses, and Persona 5 deserve that honor for being the highest standard of quality that Ganker comes to expect
And that’s why I’ve never played or liked jrpgs. They’re games made by and for disgusting foreigners.
Reminder that if you play anything but western made games you’re a treasonous weak homosexual.
JRPG never meant "made in japan". It was just very common for Japan t9 make those types of JRPGs. The 4 homies archtype was invented in America anyway
Games Journalists:
>The 'JRPG' label has always been othering
Also Games Journalists:
>Japanese culture is not valid if it depicts viewpoints that diverge from my own even slightly, and products coming from Japan must be sanitized in order to be acceptable to consume.
this guy gets it. The whole Yoshi-P thing was him talking about how western journos are racist as frick about how they talk about Japanese games in general, he just worded it poorly because... well he's speaking a foreign language so things don't come across perfectly.
>historical baggage
i want to fricking kill game journos with my bare hands
call them what they are, gay rpgs
It's appropriate honestly. It's a good indicator of differentiation between styles of fantasy. When i want to play an RPG that is somewhat influenced by Tolkien in themes or anything like that, then I'm not likely looking for something that comes from Japan. There's the exception of From Software, but by and large that's not what they put out.
>What are you playing there, sport?
>A japanese RPG called Final Fantasy, Dad
>WHAT THE FRICK DID YOU SAY? NO SON OF MINE IS PLAYING A GODDAMN asiatic GAME, DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ZIPPERHEAD SLANTS DID TO US IN WWII?
>JRPG is an othering term
dragon quest 11 is just like fallout new vegas
these games are exactly the same!
japan is constantly putting out rpgs like the bottom one, right? where are they though?
>Three metal slimes
DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMN!
>Take normal word
>Make up a reason for it be offensive
>Push the meme that it’s offensive as hard as possible
>Repeat
That's a classic leftist past time.
Whining about shit that doesn't matter.
There's a lot of genre terms that you could argue are completely stupid. But this is not one of them and it should remain the way it is. Unless Japan starts putting out games like Baldurs Gate, Fallout and Elder Scrolls more often. Then i could potentially see the argument of the terms becoming more meaningless, but that isn't what's popular over there anyway. So it should only ever remain subject to change and JRPG should stay the norm. There are very difference audiences between these types of games. Asking for it to be removed is essentially creating a categorization nightmare.
basically what this anon said
JRPG are anime games with turn based combat
WRPG are proper RPG
we don't call them "Japanese Action Games" or "Japanese Strategy Games" or "Japanese Puzzle Games". Why should RPGs the only category where the games are segregated like this?
>what's poyo poyo?
>Oh it's a japanese puzzle game where
>AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Puyo Puyo is a derivative of Tetris, so really it's a Russian puzzle game
JRPGs othered themselves by being how they are and copying Dragon Quest instead of following Ultima. It's a different type of game so it's a different genre.
I mean compare this to Ultima, Wizardy or Might and Magic. It's always been clear what the differences are. They actually had to make the covers of retro JRPGs in the west look more western inspired in artstyle so people would buy them. If they had put stuff like this on the cover it would not have sold.
>Why should RPGs the only category where the games are segregated like this?
Themes and artstyle. You could call them animeRPGs instead i guess, but JRPG is already established so there's no reason not to use it. That's at least my understanding of the differences, there's probably something I'm missing at a deeper level than surface.
It's the name of a fricking subgenre. Where did this full-moron take arise from? Are we going to say that Eurobeat is now a racist term?
Yoshi-P started this
Yes the fricking director of fricking FFXIV and XVI started this entire fricking cluster frick
Its always been othering to the WRPGs who can't catch up in quality.
>no you can't term "JRPG" because it's racist chud
>this game is bad because it's too japanese. the industry needs to move on from japanese trends and stop promoting japanese people
why are they like this?
reminder that these are the people telling you that using the term JRPG is racist
This was the writer of the article. Just a woke/gay/potential troony? left leaning nip living in LA.
like all leftists he hates himself and his race
>nip
She's a hapa, says so in her bio.
Todd said it better than anyone else.
This is a dogshit take. Planescape torment and even morrowind in some ways don't feel real. The virtue of western rpgs is player agency.
I don't like grindsloppa so it's a good tag for me to filter.
Agreed, Japanese action-adventure games are NOT RPGs
Wait, people still think it's derogatory?
WRPGs don't feel like JRPGs. Or those games that still call themselves CRPGs, to differentiate from the table top pen and paper RPGs out there.
I thought it's just a way to say where it's from, I never once thought it was derogatory.
Now eurojank on the other hand, that's different.
>Wait, people still think it's derogatory?
only FF14 trannies drinking the Yoship coolaid
FF14 isn't even a jrpg, it's a fricking mmo.
Hashino was really based for the passionate defense of turn-based combat he gave the other month
it's like saying that calling japanese cartoons "anime" is xenophobic and racist
for every reply to this post, a person who browses polygon and posts polygon threads here dies
Thread #999999999 of westgays being disingenuous homosexuals like always.
There's nothing wrong with othering it there's clearly a difference
That's good because JRPGs are something other than RPGs, they barely have any role-playing elements at all.
explain
Don't call them Japanese restaurants
>othering
We need a holocaust sequel
>Because design trends have increasingly homogenized between Japanese and Western games, the term "JRPG" has become a poor way to describe a game's effective genre
Or something like that. It's a decent argument to bring up if you don't phrase it like a games journalist
Eastern and western games arent homogenized at fricking all unless you include shit like final homosexualry 16, and even then the combat is obviously japanese
It's fricking wrong though. Even a modern JRPG is very different from a modern WRPG. Show me a big name WRPG that is even remotely similar to Tales of Arise or Ryuu ga Gotoku 7.
When a real JRPG comes out you know it's a JRPG right away, it's distict enough to be its own subgenre.
JRPGs don't have ugly women like in Fable and Forza Zero Horizon though.
>no ability to impact the story in any meaningful way
>no way to solve problems except through combat
>choices presented to the player rarely make any difference
why do we call them rpgs at all? rpgs are more than just number go up
The real problem with JRPGs is that they're barely games. They're just cutscene after cutscene, and the "gameplay" is just watching attack animations play out, inbetween boring menuing. You look at any discussion, and it's always revolved around "bro the waifus be hot as frick, bro!" or "dude the game said that revenge is le bad, it's so deep and artistic".
The genre has stagnated for decades now, and if you want to prove me wrong, show me a JRPG that's not afraid to discard its story entirely. Show me a JRPG that doesn't even need a story, it's not afraid to just have 4 guys in a row and beat up monsters for EXP, just because it's fun.
>b-but fun needs context
No it doesn't.
>but most JRPGs have 100 hours of gameplay
None of which is good, if it's apparently so boring that you need a cutscene telling you to have fun.
>The real problem with JRPGs is that they're barely games.
Play nocturne on hard and tell me that again
>tell me that again
JRPGs are barely games.
Thats at least half gameplay and the game is 50 hours
>reading dialogue boxes counts as gameplay
Clicked into the video randomly and it was a boss fight, lol
>click into the video randomly
>it's a boss fight
>99% of the time is sitting in one place while dialogue plays out
>cinematic attack animation that goes on for hours
>player just sits there and does nothing
Riveting gameplay.
Play the game
As soon as I can find the gameplay, sure.
Weak bait. I hope this is just 1 autist sperging out.
Are you dumb or something? Nocturne has barely story or long cutscenes at all.
>being parked infront of cutscenes for 6 hours, so you can be lectured to, isn't considered long
How ironic that
laments about western games doing it, but now it's okay if there's femboys and anime waifus?
Nocturne probably has 3 hours of cutscenes MAX, that video is also a ton of gameplay
Why is "reading dialogue" considered gameplay? That's like saying that God of War and Uncharted have alot of gameplay, when it's just walking down hallways with exposition sprinkled over it.
Whoops. I forgot that cutscenes count as gameplay when it comes to JRPGs. How clumsy of me.
>Show me a JRPG that doesn't even need a story
Dragon Quest 1 LITERALLY does not have a story. It's a JRPG driven entirely by gameplay.
>Dragon Quest 1 LITERALLY does not have a story.
Did you miss the part where the king tells you the gist of the story in the beginning?
That's not story, that's background motivation you'd find in a manual in a 5-second dialog box. After that, the "story" literally ceases existing until you kill the Dragon King. It literally has as much plot as your average Mario game, and most people consider those games plotless.
>t. actually played the game instead of just looking at it on YouTube
Also etrian odyssey
>You a gamer?
>I'm a JRPG enthusiast.
>Well, you play much JRPG?
>I've seen a little on Twitch
True, jslop doesn't deserve the term rpg, they have no role playing and no game(play).
They should be called japanese adventure games or something
What kind of moronic bullshit this? Absolutely not true and anyone who grew up in the late 90s knows this. The term used to be seen as a badge of a quality game and for the longest time was synonymous with just the term "RPG" because wRPGs were so insignificant and were the curious novelty of the genre until Morrowind came along.
>Saying jrpg is racist now
Frick off YoSHITp
jrpg is obviously supposed to denote a certain style of game that is popular in japan so why the frick is calling it a jrpg some racist nazi shit
goddamn people just love to make problems out of such inane shit every day now
JRPG is a good term
Because it 99.9% of the time means I am going to play a fun game without getting preached at like westernslop does, or have ugly as sin characters.
I mean CRPG was a distinction within the west for many years too to let you know it was going to be extra autistic.
JRPG has always been Ultima dumbed down for babies. And we've always been willing to call things like S/T/A/RPG's out of Japan an S/T/A/RPG even if they're cringe anime as frick. It's really just about how the game actually plays that gets it stuck with the JRPG label.
wrong
if it's from japan, it's a jrpg
thats it
japans deserves it's distinction because they choose to create their own systems and innovate
wrpgs base almost everything off of d&d
Literally nothing about your post is true.
JRPGs and RPGs are not the same genre how do frick do people not know that?
They were created and grew entitely seperately from each other like fricking dragons and chinese dragons
I'm sure you could apply the same to JPop, Kpop, JDrama, and KDrama. Heck could toss in the US usage of anime and manga as well.
Is the anime label also othering?
whoopsie you're bringing up a point that can destroy the narratiiiiive~~!!
>prefer WRPG over JRPG
>i have played way more JRPG than WRPG
frick you Neptune and Kingdom Hearts, it’s your fault
especially FF7R isn't an RPG.
it's just a sony movie game with shitty action mechanics that don't work.
>it's just a sony movie game with shitty action mechanics
It's nice to see that it's faithful to the original.
>historical baggage
The historical baggage of being used by nerds to differentiate Final Fantasy from Baldur's Gate.
God fricking damn even this term makes me rage. "Baggage." It's such a fricking sitcom word. Normal fricking people just say history. "Historical baggage." Like, "Oh, I'm going to act like I know shit about frick and this is an important essay about society, and I'm going to talk like a Sex and the City Character while I do it."
Fricking c**t.
I get what Yoshi P is saying but the JRPG style is clearly a distinct formula and one that more people respect than write off these days. I don't think rejecting the JRPG classification is smart granding at all, especially when you're continuing the legacy of games from the genre's the golden age. This is shameful insecurity, Square Enix should be proud of the JRPG history and tradition - it's 40 years old ffs
If you don't want to get offended by the term then would animeRPGs be more suitable? you're still get othered no matter how you want to slice it. You can't even abbreviate that because you're conflicting with another sub genre known as Action RPG lol
Persona and SMT still sells, must be a creativity issue with Square if they can't make an interesting JRPG combat anymore.
Does atlus have a patent on press turn? Cause for me its night and day, press turn makes jrpgs actually worth playing. More devs should use it
>wrpg
1 guy and a shitty moral system
>jrpg
4 homies in a row, sometimes with a shitty moral system
>crpg
4-6 homies on a grid with a shitty moral system
>polygon
If it was "strong black woman rpg" they wouldn't say shit, so who gives af. Race baiting homosexuals, the lot if them.
After playing the game, seems like YoshiP was not upset about the J part, but with the RPG part instead.