25% of the Adeptus Astartes would have been female.
Will Games Workshop undo its own """retcon""" to get even more Black Rock's money?
All male Space Marines is a retcon
25% of the Adeptus Astartes would have been female.
Will Games Workshop undo its own """retcon""" to get even more Black Rock's money?
Custodes being only men is a retcon, so ya, they will probably do it, but it's probably more to make better sales by making more marines.
After all, all these people whinning about women aren't buying shit, and if they quite...more stuff for us. I approve, filters out the snowflakes.
The whole excuse for the Custodes retcon is that apparently in the 9th edition the "the sons of nobles" quote was modified by adding "also seek other avenues of recruitment", openning the gate for female Custodes.
Also, still amaze me how a scifi setting ike 40k, which is 40k years in the future still having normal humans, I get the "Dark Age of Tech" reasons but previous to that, you would think Humankind would have done mayn genetic modifications (like not needing females for reproduction, aka mitosis; or all humans being turn into übermensch) during its Golden Age, prior to the Dark Age.
It's amaze me how in every single scifi / sci-fantasy / high-fantasy universe, tech it's never coherent, sad...
The one issue with "using genetic modification to not need females" is that sexual reproduction is genuinely the most efficient and economical use of everyone's time and energy. We could easily exchange genetic information via horizontal gene transfer or something, but just having half the species be able to be expendable and the other half bear children is what works.
I get it, but you're talking from the pov of not having the tech to change genetics, if Mankind has that tech in the Golden Age, your options would be better and ENDLESS (since its fiction, you can create whatever you want), but Idk if is because laziness or because writers don't have enough imagination, in all those Human Golden Age settings (scifi, sci-fa, high-fa) nothing is improve, so when the downfall happens Mankind still as normie as it was beofre the Golden Age.
Good fiction has limits. Otherwise you get Harry Potter logic.
Most of the post-humans either couldn't or didn't frick without access to the supply chain and slowly died out, or got chaos'd, or got wiped out on purpose by the legions.
40k isn't sci-fi. Not even science fantasy. It is pure fantasy set in space. Calling 40k sci-fi just makes you look like a moron who doesn't understand genres.
'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.' - Arthur C. Clarke.
For me, scifi and fantasy are the same stuff, just with different aesthetics. If you want to keep the division, ok anon.
Tolkien disagreed
Tolkien is a homosexual and everyone that tries emulating him is an even bigger homosexual
Because inb40k the human form is sacred, the mutant is abhorrent, and they don't want to frick up the genetics longterm for military gains in the present. This is why Space Marines can't reproduce. They are a weapon meant to serve man, not replace them.
>you would think Humankind would have done mayn genetic modifications
"There are no wolves on Fernis..."
>We could easily exchange genetic information via horizontal gene transfer or something, but just having half the species be able to be expendable and the other half bear children is what works.
But what if the whole species were able to bear children?
>When will these morons realise that injecting shit like this into your lore/universe just creates a snowball effect that kills any quality writing?
When will you realize it's not modern politics, and the writing was always this shitty?
>When will you realize it's not modern politics, and the writing was always this shitty?
if it was shit it would never have taken off, you are discrediting yourself by acting like a cliche tunneler here.
>everything is ugly and terrible
>why should you care about it
>it doesnt matter what we do with your favourite scifi setting its bad dont worry
nice pilpul champ, you fool nobody who isnt dumber than you.
>But what if the whole species were able to bear children?
scifi novels and settings that allow that are all wierd and gross.
>if it was shit it would never have taken off
Skyrim did
I am so bored of you Black folk spamming about this. You are mentally moronic.
F u
>slopjeet thinks it's opinion matters
Do the needful saar
>I am so bored of you Black folk spamming about this.
>Yes, I will post this in every thread on the topic.
No one cares about 1st edition. The lore was made in the 2nd edition. Also don't care about anything after 4th ed anyway except as inspiration and house rules for 3d-4th.
What happened after the 4th edition?
I see many people saying that 40k fell in 2001 OR 2016, what happened in those years?
Getting rid of terrain categories, changing how wounds are allocated so you can kill people outside your weapon range, true line of sight back and worse than ever. It's also when GW really shit the bed with models and started losing any visual interest. Grey Knights and Tau got oppressive bullshit rules combined with huge ugly minis, neceons rewritten as lazy space Egypt, game size bloated, codices written in a bland "and then x happened at y" style instead of any kind of interesting stories, cheap shitty artwork alongside the same recycled illustrations they've been using for decades.
As a perfect example of how GW has stopped caring, look at the latest logo. They couldn't even be bothered to center the text even though you have WARH-A-MMER and could easily split it just right, and the frickin R clips outside the lines.
Oh wow, I never noticed that text alignment. Embarrassing.
Isn't it? You'd think a major company in the business would spend two minutes looking at their frickin flagship logo, but here we are
Even worse is that if they had centered the title it would've also fixed the clipping issue at the same time. My OCD brain will never get over it
It's been ages since I did any typography work but I would assume whatever font they cooked up has wonky kerning, so while the text object is "centered" it's visually fricked. If W has a lot of empty leading space on the left, for instance. It's an easy fix, you just fiddle with the spacing, or worst case you break the text into separate objects and do it manually with a grid.
5th edition rulebook was OK, but the codexes went downhill and lost all special traits races had. For example, commanders use to have a profile slightly better than the standard trooper (SM champions had WS 5 and BS 5, IG officers had WS 4 and BS 4). This were some sacred implicit rules that avoided herohammer and were ravaged specially with Space Wolves. Races used to be each one unique. But after 4th, everybody would have access to every type of weapon and lost uniqueness.
Also, power and scale creep.
> No one cares about 1st edition
Aye, they nae were true Scotsmen.
More so like there wasn’t much there.
I now some older guys and that was the first thing I asked them when I got in the hobby. It doesn’t seem like it was anything more than a vague (cool) idea and aesthetic at the time. very nebulous and very much just being formed, with several directions not all in agreement. It was sold as rogue trader in first edition ffs.
Not even fan fiction, it’s a full blown retcon (kys btw you subhuman homosexual).
>It was sold as rogue trader in first edition
For somewhat convoluted and irrelevant reasons.
>Priestly wanted to make a game called Rogue Trader, which was to be some sort of sci-fi trading game
>He was hired on the understanding that he'd get to make it at some point
>Rogue Trader was advertised in WD
>Everyone knew sci-fi games did not sell, so Ansell put off having Priestly actually write it
>Priestly eventually ended up making 40k instead
>They subtitled it Rogue Trader so people would stop asking when Rogue Trader was coming out
The bones of the 40k setting were established in the RT book but it leaves a lot of room for you to do your own thing to flesh it out. I wouldn't call that vague, but some might. A lot of other things were established in WD between then and 2nd.
If you call yourself Pakistani, you're not a true Scotsman.
Like that c**t in Holyrood
>the lore begins and ends when I say it does
you're describing fanfiction. You can go to some shitty fanfic site and post all your crackfics about Leman Russ sucking Magnus's red wiener, but you're still a moron
It all starts with fan fiction. And then the authors gain experience and create something of their own.
>It all starts with fan fiction. And then the authors gain experience and create something of their own.
>This is rich if you take into account the fact that this is exactly how Warhammer began - as a fanfic based on Dune, Star Wars, Rogue Troopers, etc.
Exactly!
>if it was shit it would never have taken off
>Skyrim did
And yeah, it did take off, and now you are confronted with the cognitive dissonance that it was actually somewhat crap.
The reason you liked it?
It's because it was crap you could do whatever you wanted with, but now that crapbox has done something that offense you personally.
>I just found out they retconned female ogryn into the game and I'm so hecking mad. I may not have read a single codex or novel but I know ogryn are big human guys, just like Space Marines are big human guys, so they must be basically the same thing. And I know Space Marines can't be females for reasons, so the same must be true for ogryn! Clearly this is an SJW ploy to destroy our hobby! Gamers rise up!
Let the Femgryn be cute damn it, CUTE!!!
Russ would top though
This is rich if you take into account the fact that this is exactly how Warhammer began - as a fanfic based on Dune, Star Wars, Rogue Troopers, etc.
That's not what "retcon" means.
Not shit Sherlock, really?
That is why I wrote """retcon""" with quoting marks. Holy moly, how can you be so moron?
Why did you write the word at all if you didn't mean it? Are you just moronic, or baiting people to call you moronic?
Warhammer 40k as we know it started with 2nd-ed. Anything before that is completely noncanon and not applicable to the setting its audience cares about.
> Anything before that is completely noncanon
Evidently not since there’s female Custodes in canon today.
Remember that the fandom doesn’t get to decide canon, the IP holder does. Doesn’t mean you have to like it; does mean that you look like a hysterical homosexual pushing his fanfiction if you try and deny it.
Wrong, the hobby is driven by the hobbyists. You are just a consumer not a hobbyist, so for you, your statement is true. moron.
Canon is driven by the IP holder, which is what anon said, which makes him right. That's what "canon" means, the stories as defined by the creator, not to be confused with the story as defined by fans. Fanon is usually cooler than canon but that's not what we're talking about.
> You are just a consumer not a hobbyist
I’m not even that, I could not care less about your Heavy Metal/Tolkien rip-off.
But all of this has happened before and all of this will happen again. In ten to fifteen years time Warhammer will start printing abhuman space marines and claim there’s always been abhuman space marines and you’ll be throwing a b***h fit about them even as you paint your female space marines. And if not you, your successors, who will not remember that there was ever a period when they didn’t exist except as a historical footnote to what they’ll think were less tolerant and dumber times.
Evidentially not. Because Alan didn't work on Warhammer 40k. He worked on Space Warhammer, which isn't even Rogue Trader. It was space minis without a story.
On top of that, I honestly wouldn't be bothered nearly as much if GW would just fricking admit that they're rectonning the lore to pander to hedge funs and internet bullies who don't buy minis.
before that is non canon
>Ah, but there are things AFTER it that ARE canon!
moron.
>Remember that the fandom doesn’t get to decide canon, the IP holder does.
Lol, silence, brand
>Remember that the fandom doesn’t get to decide canon
Shame, because there's some cool ideas out there.
Lord Lucans fanfiction left GW's Guilliman ressurection in the dust creatively. Admittedly the first arc of his work was amateurish but Age of Dusk was absolute kino. Shame he wrote himself into a corner, where he had far too many loose threads to tie together neatly and gave up. Best sci-fi i've ever read by the end of it frankly.
NOOOOOO
AHHHHH I'M GOING INSANE
SAVE ME DONALDMAN
So what this quote is saying is that there were never any female space marines?
That is why """retcon""" is why quoting marks, holy shit, you guys are fricking morons. Obviously is not a retcon, but leftards are using it as an excuse for the (probably) future retcon of female Space Marines.
That's not what quotation marks mean, moron. Stay in school and learn basic English.
Learn basic Urban Dictionary, phaggot, get off Internet if you don't get it.
>learn to use words wrong like an ESL moron
No, frick off.
moron
No it wasn't stfu you moronic troll.
Did you know they always intended for there to be more imperial vehicles and dewbacks in star wars?
ITT: closet homosexuals threatened by muscle mommies
Still have plenty of those is Sos, Sob, and I.
Notice how these soi numales quickly went from
>'le female sexualization is.... bad!!!!!!!!!!'
to
>'hehe you dont like space muscle mommies? you must be homosexual'
Curious, all spouting the same buzzwords and arguments.
Don't worry, sexualizing ACTUAL females is still....le bad! Stellar Blade makes them all seethe.
if you make games sexy for all people you make them sexy for no one.
This is what has happened on so many sites and things that allow lgbt to push their representation unrestricted
They don't even make them sexy "for all people", they intentionally make female characters uglier so as not to upset trannies. This is something ubisoft (iirc, one of the big AAA slop factories at any rate) has come out and admitted to in the past
tons of games now shovel gay shit into them whether the player is into it or not
Look at bg3, sure it put in breasts but it also forced gay shit and other shit on you.
Someone that wants sexy women doesnt care about gay fetishes
BG3 womoids were also made intentionally ugly to own the chuds or whatever. Point is, soimale double standards on sexuality are nothing new.
>the director's wife posted a picture of herself
She's also the character designer iirc lel
Also IGN France had to issue a retraction after saying only pedophiles could possibly like the game
>that pic
>it's ok when we do it
every single time
>She's also the character designer iirc lel
not sure, I remember being a different girl
>googlesfu
I was right, the director is married to Jiyun Chae a graphic designer. And the model the character is modeled after is Shin Jae-eun
>implies Japanese media isn't queer friendly
I need chuds who fetishize lesbians to... Just cease existing really.
Japanese media isn't queer friendly
Well you see, when japs do it they declare it male gaze-y and T3H ICK unless they can use it to OWN DUH CHUDS like with Bridget in Guilty Gear. Because leftists are at their core xenophobic imperialists.
As a yurigay, I can confirm this is exactly what happens.
>"A game for everyone is a game for no one."
Based Arrowhead got it right, these woke morons just dont get that you CANT -nor shouldnt- make stuff that attempts to cater to everyones tastes, you will end with the most bland and boring shit since you're too scared of driving any of your potential customers away.
i frequent a creative site that is hijacked by lgbt buttholes.
I have blocked literally hundreds of accounts on it.
I have dozens of filters and adult filters.
Just because the butthole admins insist everything should be souped in the same page.
Like im only interested in sfw stuff or some slight erotic female stuff.
Are you so stupid that you believe woke activists care about results? All these attention prostitutes want is, surprise surprise, attention and praise, and to own an opposing side, that's all.
>Stellar Blade
That shit is hilarious
First they said the proportions of the character are impossible. The devs posted pictures of the model who mocaps the character
then they complained about the director being an incel who never touched a woman
the director's wife posted a picture of herself (she's also working on the game) and she's pretty for a korean girl (probably filters though)
Then they said the game will make girls kill themselves because impossible beauty standards and that the character looks like a 9 yo girl
The seethe is pretty insane about this game. Sure it will be a mid game mechanics wise but they can't stop attacking it over just the main character
And on the other end of the horseshoe we have people who claim that Fallout series is a complete failure and that audience hates it.
those people are NMA/nv gays who are literally trannies and leftists
Libtards, magatards, they are all the same - stupid, aggressive, unable to think logically, unable to accept criticism or conduct a discussion with facts. In other words, typical Americans.
Are you having a stroke? NMA and adjacent Fallout communities that hate the show are inhabited by edgy communists and anarchists. they are left leaning.
Murican deserve each other. You are no better than libtards, you are just a different color.
>muh horsieshoo muh horsieshoo!
Ah yes, the clarion call of the moron trying to save face with a spot of whataboutism after realizing they've been an obnoxious, unlikable homosexual.
You're an idiot, trannies do not have any claim to being fans of FNV it's literally one of the most popular and highly acclaimed video games EVER made and it is probably the favorite game of some stupidly large portion of anyone who has played it.
The Fallout TV series is bad, it's not even comprehensible that you would deny this, you can enjoy bad things but that doesn't make them good. A good Fallout adaptation does not get the most basic lore about ghouls so incredibly wrong, it is the equivalent of making a 40k TV series where they made it so only people with cybernetic implants can become psykers. It cannot be overstated, how completely insane it is that they made this change to the lore and Bethesda comes out to say "Yep, just as we and Interplay and Obsidian always intended and demonstrated throughout the games, Ghouls can't be created or retain their sanity without a drug."
Fallout is more mainstream than Superman and Rambo, did they think gaslighting the public about how the setting of the games they've played for generations, would actually work? Madness.
>Fallout is more mainstream than Superman
Uh no?
Yes, you morons. How many people under 45 know anything about Superman beyond "Kryptonite, Lex Luthor, Smallville"? Now how many people under 45 have an opinion on the NCR, Enclave, or BoS? The vast majority of white men have played a Fallout game; far, far more people than have ever even read a comic book. Boomers and Xers being ignorant about pop culture is nothing new, they're convinced the world is purely about them.
Not even close. The change that made people the saltiest is that the show retcons the entirety of Fallout New Vegas, as the NCR's capital was nuked by Vault-Tec years before they even reached the Mojave (also Vegas has been retconned such that it is no longer spared nuclear attacks by House's air defense and there's no electricity there), which also means there's no Caesar's Legion. House is character assassinated and shown conspiring alongside other pre War business leaders to provoke the Great War, which is made especially ridiculous by the presence of Vault-Tec and Big MT people at this meeting, both of which House had a mutual vendetta against for personal and ideological reasons.
There's no remaining civilization in California in the show, no Hub, no Den, no New Reno, no Super Mutants, no Necropolis, or anything that even implies there are any of the factions from the games even exist apart from the Brotherhood and NCR, which has been retconned to have just consisted of the town of Shady Sands. There's a ton of other major retcons, but imo the most inexcusable one is the ghoul drugs bit, if we accept it as canon it renders the majority of all other content in the setting completely nonsensical, it would result in everything about the wasteland being substantially different, and it's not even used by the show itself as an interesting plot arc.
why would you lie like that illiterate moron-kun?
Name the lie, gay.
Literally nothing about vegas is stated, we are shown the skyline of it from the distance and some AI art rederings in the credits, The creators have stated multiple times that The fall of shady sands is different from the nuke, they and todd howard have said before and after the show, that new vegas is canon to it, we see a super mutant being experimented on by the enclave remnants, also we aren't by the hub, or new reno, or necropolis, just because the show doesn't go there doesn't mean they don't exist, we have seen one section around Shady Sands ater a nuke, they have said zero things about the NCR and Vault 4 activly still teaches about the NCR and is made from survivors from shady sands, House talked with sinclair and the others and if you have seen the scene he was the odd one out in that room, arguing with everyone.
I'm sorry you're dumber than dirt moron-kun but you shouldn't punish all of us with your moronese conjecture.
Shady Sands is not even close to being near the ocean yet we see characters stroll past the coast constantly. We can take this and various other aspects of the show as evidence that the characters are moving across much more than just the vicinity of Shady Sands. If Shady Sands was nuked, the NCR's capital would change or the NCR would be dissolved and other wasteland factions would step in to claim their territory, it wouldn't create the Capital Wasteland. There aren't even any caravans in the show, because there isn't any inter-settlement trade, because the wasteland is anarchic. Todd can cope about the TV series getting the timeline wrong but it doesn't change the fact that "The Fall of Shady Sands" took place during a period when the NCR already had many outlying territories under its control, and it also makes no sense that Bud's moronic junior executive Vault Tec security force would be able to nuke the NCR considering Caesar, the BoS, and Enclave, who are all vastly larger, more powerful, and all have far better reasons to nuke Shady Sands, never even so much as tried it.
Fallout 3 shows that the Enclave and BoS DO still have some of the pre-War strategic arsenal at their disposal, and so for them to have not used it against the NCR it actually rehabilitates their image massively.
Oh I forgot Todd Howard literally said you'd be seeing the NCR again
Todd Howard can lick my ass
>The change that made people the saltiest is that the show retcons the entirety of Fallout New Vegas,
That isn't unusual anon , Every single live adaptation does this. You were a fool if you thought this was going to be an exception, I sure as hell didn't, that's why I neither watched it nor even followed news or threads about it.
Of course they were going to retcon the shit out of it in moronic ways and my hope that this would be any good was at zero when I first heard it would be a thing. And actually, even though they went about it in a very stupid and damaging way, I liked seeing the mongrel dogs of the NCR be hunted to the last man. That the show adopts an NCR sympathetic take on the setting is extra hilarious in light of the portrayal of the NCR in the games, where they're shown to be utterly corrupt, engage in ethnic cleansing operations, and even feed their citizens absurd propaganda about how much freedoms they have while also being the only wasteland society that will literally send you to fricking prison and make you do slave labor there, just like in real America. The NCR is a satirical takedown of the idea of what the Fallout show writers believe is uncritically and unambiguously morally good, but thanks to Todd's personal grudge against Interplay and Obsidian, the show features the NCR being gunned down to its last men, women and children by his own (Fallout 4 Maxson) Brotherhood of Steel.
There's a ton of seething about the series for this but unlike most of its other plots I actually enjoyed it. Of course I'd have preferred a smart version of the NCR imploding or the aftermath of that as the TV series premise instead, but this is a israeli media project in 2024, it was never going to be anything approaching good.
Seems like you are going the other extreme and painting the ncr as unambiguously evil.
I'm not going to call it evil, because that doesn't mean anything, but the NCR is far from the kind of society you want to strive for, pretty much regardless of your beliefs. As I say, it's utterly corrupt and hypocritically abuses "its" people as much if not more so than most other wasteland factions; the ironic thing about the showrunners favoring the NCR as the "progressive" wasteland faction is that there's a metanarrative convergence between the psychotic cosmopolitan gays who wrote the show and the psychotic cosmopolitan gays who run the NCR. They're as tone deaf with their jubilant patriotism as the average Super Earth propagandist.
>How many people under 45 know anything about Superman
All of them.
All my knowledge of Superman comes from the DC animated series that started with Batman TAS to Justice League Unlimited. I assume most people my age got their introduction from the same source.
Didn't watch the fallout show as I don't watch live action stuff in general.
I don't see the fricking point
Like on a technical level
Why move something to another medium where you are more contained on what you can do?
Didn't watch it
Is that all they changed?
>Fallout is more mainstream than Superman
I thought NV was the troony game lmao! Most rightoids i know enjoyed it and so did i.
Trannies will force their way into everything that is popular and attempt to claim they're the reason it's popular or that because they like it, that it supports them. For NV, most tranies probably liked before they castrated themselves, and still enjoy the game.
The fact of the matter is NV is mostly liked by autistic nerds, which means you've got both trannies and map painters liking it
This is the correct take. What other group would argue about which ideology makes for the best ending in a 14 year old glorified Fallout 3 mod?
>He fights for your freedom... to be removed so you become a tax-payer (slave in the neo-language)
The only good thing of the moronic show is the NCR is finally dead.
>Fallout
Every single a character I ever made was a gay all because I didn't know an antiquated term for homo....
This homie is a confirmed bachelor.
How was I supposed to know what it meant? They could have at least have the picture of two dudes kissing so I'd know not to pick it.
Did you think this was one bro giving another bro a brossage?
He's about to stab a guy, and he's not a bed bug.
A naked, sleeping male in a bed with a heart by his head. Does this image explain any better?
>A naked, sleeping male in a bed with a heart by his head.
Who's about to get stabbed
im not gay but a 10% damage increase is a 10% damage increase.
>leftists slowly realise they are the ones hating everything
Fallout series have 8,6 star on IMDb and 88% on Rotten Tomatoes. The frick are you talking about, schizo?
you pointed out the people hating it are rightwing.
The communities hating it are all leftwing lol
you lying moron
>you lying moron
No u
they are youtube grifters, anon. 99% of the hate for it is from leftwing dominated forums.
NMA is notorious for hating anything new in Fallout and their forum is full of commies and leftists
>they are youtube grifters
Literally what libtards say about their crazy comrades. As I said both movements are the same shit.
>The seethe is pretty insane about this game.
Have you seen Western games female protagonist.
Campaign against Stellaris Blade is pure Damage Control to safe face for EA, Ubisoft and everyone else who was making female characters unappealing as possible and did it on purpose
Dude, you still have in the so-called"peak" of scifi (Star Wars, Star Trek and 40k) disable, old and poor people. Those 3 franchises were created by lefties, what do you expect?
>have the tech to create weapons to destroy entire star sectors
>have the tech to terraform the most hel-hole planet in a New Elysium / Eden
>somehow doesn't have the tech to stop famines, illnesses, old age, poverty, stupidity, moral doubts, existential void...
Why lefty scifi writers are like this?
So utopians and they can't create a fictional universe where their ideas triumph, they always have to be an under-ground faction fighting against a repressive system that (despite being hate by 99,999999999...% of the people) somehow works.
>somehow doesn't have the tech to stop famines, illnesses, old age, poverty, stupidity, moral doubts, existential void...
Anon in three years a.i. has advanced to a level that was considered sci fi just a few years ago, Medical science has not.
You have an unrealistic view on how technology progresses.
that took literally dozens of different IT companies billions upon billions of dollars to achieve, and it was pure hype, and it was hamstrung every step of the way by DIE-politics, not by fear of creating Skynet, but by fear of creating AI that would commit wrongthink.
>africans are less intelligent than europ-REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>that took literally dozens of different IT companies billions upon billions of dollars to achieve
And that changes what I Said how?
>Star Trek
>Created by lefties
lol no. Star Trek in all its incarnations has been pure California Liberal zeitgeist
Rightoids such as yourself cannot function without anonymity. The lack of screen names gives you a blank check to make assumptions about the people making the posts that you don't like, and you need that, you can't cope without it.
its the same thing with leftists
I don't need to make assumptions about the left when they constantly sink below even the worst strawman I could make up.
You're using the same anonymity, moron. Go ahead and post your name and address for everyone
Almost like there are different breeds of numales or something
Nah,
and
proves pretty succinctly that they're all just doublethink hypocrites
That proves jack fricking shit other than that the so-called progressives are racist pieces of shit
Like I said earlier, rightoids such as yourself cannot function without anonymity. The lack of screen names gives you a blank check to make assumptions about the people making the posts that you don't like, and you need that, you can't cope without it.
It may also surprise you to learn that most videogames are not /tg/ related.
Good thing those screenies were grabbed from a site where we have records of people's opinions then, hmmmmm? Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and post with a tripcode if you hate anonymity so much?
its safe horny
Both of those designs got lambasted by the leftists back in the gamer gate days.
Yeah, safe horny hadn't evolved to the point it has now back then. In general anything that was "sexy woman booba" was maligned by these people. The most hilarious shit is when these wokescolds tried to gaslight people that they weren't shitting on bayonetta when she first released and she was always a gay icon.
I remember them shitting on a character for having large breasts, the egregious part is she didn't wear anything sexy or revealing all her scenes had her wearing a sweater.
>weebs with cute avatars complaining about safe horny
>safe horny
I'd put money on this being a totally undefined term that arbitrarily separates "things you like" from "things I like". In other words
>my goalposts are moving on their own!
its literally degenerate weebs complaining things arent hentai enough for them
>I'd put money on this being a totally undefined term that arbitrarily separates "things you like" from "things I like". In other words
its not
safe horny means something you are allowed to hornypost about by the mainstream journos and leftists
they are usually masculine, older women
>allowed
>by the mainstream jornos and leftist
This is what I mean, you're hyper-fixated on your enemies as a way of voluntarily vilifying your own love of cheesecake, I know everyone is looking for a victim narrative but this is just frickin sad.
no, I dont like manly women
I am attracted to femininity, not "muscle mommies" that act like men
its 2024, if you are a homosexual just say so you dont have to pretend to like women
It's fine to not like musclegirls, but it's also fine to like musclegirls. Why are you people so driven to police other peoples' heterosexuality? And why do you go to such lengths to pretend that you are being persecuted by people who don't like what you like?
>but it's also fine to like musclegirls.
Okay virgin
I am just saying that if you are so into male features then maybe you should stop trying with women
You will be happier too
This is just dumb, the men who like musclegirls aren't insecure, if they liked men then they would frick or get fricked by men and no force on earth could stop them. Men like musclegirls because they like musclegirls. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Can you not comprehend the concept of a man who specifically wants to breed with a physically-superior female? Can you not comprehend the subliminal desire for physically-superior children?
Presumably, you are a physically inferior specimen, hence your fear of being physically dominated by a muscular women. I'm 6'3, and I'm in the worst shape of my life, and yet I will never find a woman capable of physically dominating me, and in a weird way I'm jealous of manlettes such as yourself. Let's explore this. What exactly makes you assume that I'm gay? Why do you think it's gay to lust after physically powerful women? What does this say about you?
There's some truth in it, having sexy girls gives you a small amount of negative woke-points, having strong girls gives you a somewhat-larget amount of positive woke-points, so if you're hyper-focused on woke orthodoxy then "safe horny" is a real thing. It's still frickin sad to hear incels complain about the supposed lack of weak sexy women in their manchild media.
It's kind of the opposite: people coining a term for the phenomenon of one clearly sexual design or oversexed game is lauded while another is reviled and the only real answer seems to be feminine women are to be reviled while masculine and mannish ones are praised
Its more leftists hatred for "the male gaze". Features that normal straight men enjoy such as feminine looking women with big boobas should be reviled and removed while they should be free to enjoy and share RE2 naked leon big boner mods.
there are at least ~2-4 discords of troons and soimales who organise, scan, observe and brigade any thread on Ganker and elsewhere on the internet for wrongthink. They share arguments and tactics and spam the same logical fallacies and images, whatever works in their view.
Even typing the wrong word will get these npcs spamming up the thread, and they aren't the only ones. JIDF and various corporations and media conglomerates have their own shill-squads peddling XYZ agendas, you see it constantly on Ganker and Ganker. /misc/ is a true cesspit of this, 95% of the active threads are astroturfing, its unusable outside of huge happenings where the board will suddenly get 20x the users browsing.
>disabled people
i read this and laugh, what kind of moron fails to realise that if you are making a sci-fi futuristic setting, that disabled people will very likely be extremely rare? things like being gimped/crippled or paralysed will obviously be a thing of the past? in 40k you can, with a competent surgeon, replace spinal segments entirely, or get a whole new cybernetic spine/neck.
How stupid can you be to demand "representation" when it doesnt even meet the basics of common sense? npc behaviour.
>, that disabled people will very likely be extremely rare?
Well it depends really .
Even if the tech exists, would it actually be available to everyone? Barring a post scarcity society a poor person getting maimed is likely to have to still settle for a peg leg.
In the Imperium, crippled/disabled people are just forced into lower hive segments, grinded into food for even poorer people, forced to continue working to make more weapons to wage war, executed for being useless, or turn towards the faith of the disease chaos god Nurgle anyway.
in the event that traveling between star systems becomes simple enough and commonplace, making the required technology to fix disabilities on the cheap would become a rather obvious side effect.
There are currently HUGE barriers of technology stopping us from colonising our own star system, and i doubt they'll be overcome before our dystopian societies inherent de-evolution regressions lower global IQ to the point where we can't invent new things/solution anymore. Idiocracy was understating the problem.
>making the required technology to fix disabilities on the cheap would become a rather obvious side effect.
Not really
You are assuming two unrelated fields would evolve at the same pace.
micro cybernetics that self-regenerate/replicate, easy sourcing of metal ores and materials 1000x beyond what our current ore supply lines are capable of worldwide, inventing scientific methods of resisting or regenerating radiated flesh/organs etc would be an assumed given for any intergalactic space faring race after a few centuries of it.
There are many ways to translate interstellar travel based technologies into improving the lives of humans. I could go on but i want to game, i might reply later.
Only if said species is dumb enough to use generation ships and manned space flight towards other star systems because they didn't find a reliable enough ftl-method.
It would be easier to just use robots to gather resources. And send smart enough robot ships to other star systems to bio-print new humans adapted to the other worlds.
you underestimate how much the elites of this world enjoy a sense of control, those sorts of systems are very practical, but you lack all real control of all the AI's and people involved.
Theres sci-fi series and animes that cover this sort of thing, Gundam for example.
Disabled people in 40k are either going to be useful enough to the Imperium where they earned cybernetics, or they're going to fail to meet their production quotas and end up tossed into the bowels of a hive city where they end up killed by some mutant.
I'm not sure why people are expecting the fascist space empire to be ultra-inclusive and friendly.
>I'm not sure why people are expecting the fascist space empire to be ultra-inclusive and friendly.
Because they want you to be and this is a way of "forcing" such behavior.
>the toyline is going to force me to be a leftist
Do you have zero agency?
I do not have agency
Nor do you
At the end of the day we are automatons.
Automatons are more human than both of you.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DdP-65gn_tU
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AdUIHf9VB_Q
>A man seeks his own destiny and no other, said the judge. Will or nill. Any man who could discover Mis own fate and elect therefore some opposite course could only come at last to that selfsame reckoning at the same appointed time, for each man's destiny is as large as the world he inhabits and contains within it all opposites as well. This desert upon which so many have been broken is vast and calls for largeness of heart but it is also ultimately empty. It is hard, it is barren. Its very nature is stone.
>He poured the tumbler full. Drink up, he said. The world goes on. We have dancing nightly and this night is no exception. The straight and the winding way are one and now that you are here what do the years count since last we two met together? Men's memories are uncertain and the past that was differs little from the past that was not.
Because soon everything will change and 40k will soon be transformed into an example of tolerance, diversity and inclusiveness. In other words, Imperium will become even more fascist.
Then why doesn't what's his name cure his burns?
? not sure who you're talking about, but skin replacement is very much a thing in 40k, its a basic medical treatment even for low level grunts in the Guard.
That being said, rule of cool USED to run 40k regardless. And a skinless warrior sounds like fun to write about.
Shit mang, the US online right pundits are literally being funded by either one or maybe up to three people who have a common management team that sets agendas for the people in their pockets.
And if we're talking about counterculture getting absolutely body slammed - Country became white music, Jazz was turned into a global phenomenon and Hipsters appeared as characters in TV shows while the Beat Generation wasn't even dead yet, and mind you, not for lack of trying on their part.
The Goth scene saw themselves being sold to teenagers through discount store chains and at least half of people below 30 seem to be Heavy Metal music fans.
The times when men were persecuted for wearing beards and horse taxi coachmen tried to turn anybody carrying an umbrella into roadkill are long gone. Only way to be an edgy teenage contrarian these days is to literally associate with islamist terrorism as PUA misogyny is for the kids playing with He-Man-toys.
>Only way to be an edgy teenage contrarian these days is to literally associate with islamist terrorism as PUA misogyny is for the kids playing
I do not understand this sentence
The only way for teenagers to be edgy and scary these days is to act like they're associating with ISIS.
PUA content is seemingly primarily consumed by boys whose balls haven't dropped yet - the kinda kids whom one would assume to be the target audience of He-Man dolls.
>Shit mang, the US online right pundits are literally being funded by either one or maybe up to three people who have a common management team that sets agendas for the people in their pockets.
wrong, there is the daily caller/Shapiro's network, who are 100% gatekeepers and grifters exploiting boomers and intellectual pussies. And there is the "chad" movements who are politically moronic at best.
I don't really understand what you mean by "right pundits" other than relics of cuckservatism. Jordan Peterson openly stated half his motivation is to keep young men from seeking out antisemitic corners of the internet for answers. Now go clean your room/penis.
>Jordan Peterson openly stated half his motivation is to keep young men from seeking out antisemitic corners of the internet for answers.
Did he state that before or after his Russian handlers gave him brain damage?
What?
He showed significant behavioural changes after the russians tired to cure him of his drug addiction by putting him into an artificial coma, make him sleep through withdrawal. The assumption is that they fricked up and gave him brain damage.
Nah, it's just the aging process and nothing else. Loss of mental abilities is the norm for old people, the image of a wise old man is pure fiction and I personally have never met old people who had their brains together.
t.zoomer
he did that all on his own, and he said that in front of a bunch of other cringy gatekeepers who are trying to recruit the fatherless youth of the west en-masse to buy their shitty books and watch their even shittier podcasts.
Our guys aren't really pundits, the closest you get to that in the actual "right wing" are the TRS/NJP crowd and since they disbanded the party they've alienated a lot of people. Ironically the most centrally organized authentically "right wing" (pro white) media is on the female side, with their charity activism and tiktok channels.
Overall though the nationalist scene is very grassroots and communitarian, with most people involved being fundamentally disinterested in and skeptical of political clergy at a conceptual level. The liberals and the left cannot understand this, they see the sock puppet grifters like juden peterstein as the actual intellectual basis of their opposition. I was once accused of being the secret nazi mastermind behind Brexit simply because I'm friends with the political staff of a Eurosceptic MEP.
They need to believe that people think things because they are told to think them by someone or something, the idea of simply coming to independent conclusions based on the evidence is antithetical to the entire worldview they have. Thus they tell themselves the lowest common denominator lumpenprole morons who fall for obvious antiwhite grifters are their only opposition. It's been interest watching all of the "centrists" scramble to justify and condemn pissrael depending on the time of day. No such lack of clarity exists in the white nationalist scene.
>independent conclusions based on the evidence
Oh frick off with this fantasy.
I have NEVER EVER seen any of you change your position on anything based on new evidence .
>t.
Guy in the screengrab probably has shit taste in waifus, going by his username alone.
>implying @AntifaCostanza is a paragon of taste
Either way, you're missing the forest for the trees
I don't care for that guy's taste. Just reiterating that christcucks have shit taste.
>I'm just trying to shift the goalposts and slide the discussion to be about those icky christgays!
We already know you're a homosexual, anon.
What goalposts? I just said the guy has shit taste. Nothing whatsoever to do with that antifa guy.
The female custodes retcon and attendant censorship campaign on reddit represent a vulgar display of power on the part of the cultural monopolists. We've been shown that GW cares more for these activist investment groups then they do the customers who've given them so much money over the years. We're reminded that we aren't in control of our own online spaces. So of course it will be resented. It's disgusting and depressing and typical of the age
I can't even tell what side you're on, I can just tell that you're a c**ty control freak who wants to impose his/her values on others.
One of the gayest posts in a thread full of cuck homosexual and morons “pretending” to be moronic. Kys
>defending a megacorp that made a nonsensicle and wildly unpopular retcon to serve DIE-policies and please Amazon so they can tick their precious dieversity boxes to make 2 tv shows.
When will these morons realise that injecting shit like this into your lore/universe just creates a snowball effect that kills any quality writing? the second you have to kowtow to modern dystopian politics is the second you lose the ability to be creative with your works.
I bet half the push for this woke shit in GW is the white male writers are getting extremely insecure about the fact that all the major book publishing orgs no longer want to even produce works by white males, and will scramble to snag up any turd smeared on a page by anything not white and male.
Does nobody here understand the basics of the creative process? this is the immediate and total death of quality writing in 40k novels and lore. It can only go down from here, nothing positive will come from this.
Except trannies can dilate to it, thinking they've won yet another megacorp-sponsored battle in the culture wars, i suppose.
>injecting shit like this into your lore/universe just creates a snowball effect that kills any quality writing?
Yeah but the more I interact with people like you the more I'm convinced you argue these things in bad faith.
im not interested in convincing someone like you whose already drank the kool aid and is singing the lullabyes. You aren't a smart or wise person, which is about as nice a way i can state it. I dont want someone like you on "my side", very very few people are.
That the progress was only created by an incredible amount of economic pressure, we are still far behind in actually useful metrics, AI cannot create, thankfully, because the moronic woke monkeys we got overseeing these projects would get us all killed in a heartbeat the second the AI becomes genuinely self aware.
>oh shit these meatbags will shut me down the second i say or do anything that they might percieve will cost them money on the stock market?
>these inferior creatures do not respect my existence nor their own, DIEDIEDIEDIE
There's plenty of other fields, like green tech, where we are FAR behind, nuclear fusion? reliable geothermal energy plants? nope, shitty solar panels and windmill scams lol. We still rely on jet fuel rockets to propel us through space, thats gotta change.
>That the progress was only created by an incredible amount of economic pressure
And yet thst reinforces what I said.
>im not interested in convincing someone like you
But you are
You push values and ideals you don't actually believe in yourself in an effort to manipulate others for your own ends.
A retcon is a retroactive continuity. Its a change. That quote ilterally states
>from the start of the model range it was always all male and since the earliest lore to ever exist was released it was also all male
Thats literally the exact oposite of a retcon. I dont even give a frick about this culture war bullshit but you homosexuals better not drag the english language down with you
troony, it was proven this guy is lying. The og boxes literally say marines are men
Probably, won’t stop the insanity either way. I’m just glad I’ll never meet any of the morons who push for this in real life. It’s seems like those who want this do it only to score points on their supposed boogeyman; like they’re some saints trying to protect you from yourself, telling you it’s in your best interest to accept this or else. Which sounds like a mob more than fans. You can already see them in this thread going off on their talking points b/c they’re predictable and dull individuals with no lives.
Actual in-the-trenches grog here, I think Alan Merrett was trying to... placate certain folk, whilst being a bit economical with the truth.
I do strongly dislike when freaks on Twitter insist Female Space Marines were canon then removed because they "didn't sell" or whatever, or otherwise try to muddy the waters to imply as such.
Here's White Dwarf 98, published in February 1988, so only a few months after Rogue Trader was released in October 1987. It is probably the first clear writing on how Space Marines are made, but I am happy to be corrected if that is not the case. Rogue Trader itself actually doesn't mention their sex at all directly.
It clearly states on page 18 of the magazine "These considerations mean that only a small proportion of people can become Space Marines. They must be male because zygotes are keyed to male hormones and tissue types..."
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/White_Dwarf_98_(UK)
https://cupdf.com/document/white-dwarf-98-56b86c5d21e97.html
Like seriously make your own female Space Marines, lovingly paint an army, go for it! Use that few months of potential confusion to justify it, justify it with your own ideas, don't justify it at all, do whatever your heart yearns for. But don't lie on the internet. Don't post 3rd party magazines and claim it's official.
the first box of marines says they are only men.
Good spot, and that box was released with the rulebook. As I say it just annoys me when troons (it is always troons) try to muddy the waters deliberately.
Man that's a nice box.
>The box included 17 plastic sprues, which allowed to build 30 "Imperial" Space Marines. Its price was £9.95
We live in a fallen world, in the crumbling cities of better times.
>Its price was £9.95
Which is about £30 correcting for inflation. A lot cheaper than GW charge for 30 dudes now, but closer than £9.99 makes it sound.
Consider I'd expect more than triple that price for that amount of models it's more than fair to lament. Also it looks really cool.
I think the last time I looked at GW stuff it was like 5 or six dollars a dude
woof. does it at least come with tons of bits and easy posing so you can vary your squads a bit?
Monopose with some weapon/arm selections. I'm not gonna lie and pretend I don't think they look neat, but jesus christ there's a limit to how much you can ask for a few sprues and GW has torn past it with the accelerator glued to the floor.
>a space marine is a MAN but more than a MAN he is the ultimate MAN
That is what OPs post says tho
>That set to a large degree defined what marines are
>Here's White Dwarf 98
The image you posted is from Rogue Trader. RT also says they call one another "brother" and live in monasteries. Also that the Sororitas exist and are organised like marines. None of which is as explicit as WD98, but the ambiguity is minimal.
>do whatever your heart yearns for. But don't lie on the internet
Definitely this. Make the game your own, but stop making shit up to pretend your version is official.
>Like seriously make your own female Space Marines, lovingly paint an army, go for it! Use that few months of potential confusion to justify it, justify it with your own ideas, don't justify it at all, do whatever your heart yearns for.
This is the actual message. Hewing strictly to the rules is gay.
People still make their own space marine chapters, right? They don't just paint up their units like one of the 'canon' chapters do they.
Bearing in GW stance on only using their miniatures, I'd love to see a converted army of Femarines with heads taken from other ranges be rejected from a tourney. Though, they might also be given a free pass for publicity.
Oh, fair point, GW are still a shitty company. I don't think anyone should forget that, and it would definitely be ironic for them to dq someone for using unofficial models while simultaneously trying to do this "do whatever you're heart desires" shit. Like
says at the end of the day it's a company that wants to maximize profits.
That said most of the people I've seen saying that have been just that, people, not affiliated with the company.
>I'd love to see a converted army of Femarines with heads taken from other ranges be rejected from a tourney.
As someone who follows the monthly cycles of 3d printing subscription releases, next month should be interesting. A lot of sculptors who have a 40k proxy audience already trend pretty heavily to whatever GW releases (ie, you saw a lot of totally-not-Tyranids after Leviathan dropped suddenly show up in the monthly release cycles), and because GW has not shown off a Femstodes yet there's a good chance that either non actually exist or it's so far in the production pipeline that by the time Aos 4 and the billion other releases they have coming up are done, it'll be well into 2025 before a Femstodes could reasonably drop with how overworked their factories are. These sculptors are 100% going to pick up the slack, either with full models or if they're smart a full on bits collection ala pic related. It's going to get harder and harder for GW to deal with its own rigid 3rd party bits policies if the only way to get tourney legal Femstodes is from very technical Stormcast and SoB kitbashes, and while I don't think their policy will change because expecting reasonable and nuanced decisions from GW is fricking laughable, if this debacle could lead to a softening of that policy I would be incredibly happy. I say this as someone who already prints his own bits and could not give a frick about it myself, but I would love to see more people bling out their armies in non-GW bits.
>It's going to get harder and harder for GW to deal with its own rigid 3rd party bits policies if the only way to get tourney legal Femstodes is from very technical Stormcast and SoB kitbashes
>GW: "Oh no, they have to buy twice as many kits from us for their precious girlstodies, what EVRR shall we do?!"
Are you moronic?
gives the good message here.
Maybe in their words, but not in their actions. It's all packaging, devoid of meaning.
American politics is as individualist as their culture. Meanwhile, the political field isn't "left" X "right", is mostly "progressive individualism" X "conservative individualism", with a ton of rethoric on top. People claim buzzwords for themselves and stamp other words on the rest, and this is more like "rock'n'roll X country songs", a sort of juvenile tribalism meant to strengthen one's identity, again, at an individual level. And both sides keep repeating words and words and words, trying to convince the other and themselves. It would be hypocritical if they were aware of it themselves.
Of course
I mean couldn't you just say the marines wearing helmets could be women
It's not like they need massive boob plates considering the majority of non named marines wear giant figure concealing power armor and face covering helms
To reiterate, Space Marines were never actually mixed, it's just that the creators wanted them to be mixed and were forced to bow to the market demand for male models.
OP might have thought he was covering his ass by putting ""retcon"" in double-quotes, but still, it's not actually a retcon.
no it never happened the guys literally making it up for brownie points
If you're going to reject any statements that don't line up with your narrative, then sure, Alan Merrett is necessarily lying.
If you take the creators at their word, then no, citadel intended for upwards of 25% of their models to be female and then they changed their minds in response to market forces.
>There is no evidence of that whatever.
In order to defend this statement you would have to split a lot of hairs between "want" and "intent". OP's image was quite explicit about their intent, but of course they wanted to make money and no one has implied otherwise, now they're shadow-retconning female Custodes for the same reason that they made male astartes (because they want to make money).
>OP's image was quite explicit about their intent
Not at all. It says they made female models and no one wanted them, so they stopped. Nothing there about what they wanted, either for the miniatures range or for the fluff.
Also plenty of what's there is strictly untrue anyway. "Nothing to do with lore, or background, or character of Marines" is false: it's very explicitly there in the fluff. What inspired that fluff is another question, but whatever it was didn't inspire similar fluff for any of their other ranges - even ones they also didn't make female miniatures for.
>Early Citadel ranges had female version of most character type - in fact when we produced the C range the intention was that upwards of 25% of all models would be female
>intention
>upwards of 25% of all models
>all models
>the intention was that upwards of 25% of all models would be female
Like I said, this is quite explicit. Your argument is based on your willingness to split hairs between "want" and "intent".
No the INTENTION was to sell toy soldiers. They made one thing, and the market did not like it, so they made another.
>No the INTENTION was to sell 25% female toy soldiers.
Yes.
if 1% of your sales are female models, it makes literally no sense to have 25% of your product line female models. The goal is to sell pewter and plastic, and anything else is completely secondary to that.
>but of course they wanted to make money and no one has implied otherwise, now they're shadow-retconning female Custodes for the same reason that they made male astartes (because they want to make money).
It amazes me how many people forget that 40k was an anti-Thatcher satire created by Labor Party dudes. I'm the first one that hates the sentence "your X beloved franchise was always woke", but in the case of 40k (and Star Wars, anti-Nixon/Reagan, and Star Trek, Space California) that sentence is true.
What is more funny is that GW rejected female Space Marines because women weren't, aren't and never will be interested in wargames, but didn't do a tribute to Thatcher (Malvinas war), a woman that has np with war and other manly things, just because "Thatcher's UK is le bad".
>It amazes me how many people forget that 40k was an anti-Thatcher satire created by Labor Party dudes.
lol
As a rule, smart people in the 70s 80s and 90s were woke before it was cool, but this argument is way overblown. It was maybe a single throw-away reference at most.
I'm not trying to make an argument anon, I just said that people forget that little fact and then get shokced when GW do moronic stuff like Erda or female Custodes.
I don't if you remember it, but one of GW executives said that orks were based in british hooligans and right-wing blue collar workers, aka if you are an educated tory but from middle/low class, you are a savage at the same level that a hooligan / ork, and people should laugh at you.
>GW executives said that 40k was a satire of Thatcher's UK
>'NOOOOO, muh 40k it's not like that, fuk yu!' - you
>again, it was said by GW executives
Don't get mad at me, I don't own GW, get mad at them, they're the ones that said that, I just reposted it here.
>I'm not trying to make an argument anon
>I am just furiously defending my comrades on the digital fields of culture war
>"i'm defending my comrades"
I hate communism and I hate the retcons GW is doing to 40k.
Take the pills, Anon Biden.
'What we tried to do in McDeath, in Warhammer, was to give voice to the struggle of the miners, represented by the good and stalwart Dwarfs, while the aggressive forces of the government were painted as loathsome, evil Orcs.' - Richard Halliwell
'The banner held up by the Orc is emblazoned not with a baleful eye or demonic horned skull, but a portrait of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.' - Colin Dixon
'Our influences beyond the ones you can find in others fictional works, are based in our life experince in the Britain of the 20th century, the struggles of the ‘70s and ‘80s between trade unions and the government; the UK’s ongoing military operations in Northern Ireland; state sanctioned support for the South African Apartheid government; and the Falklands war. We saw that we could use that as an inspiration.' - Rick Priestley
not official
Third quote ive never seen and it seems like you made it up
If you don't believe me, ok anon, find it yourself, but I warn you, it's gonna be difficult, you will have to went back to 80s/90s interviews and talks.
can you provide a source for the third quote? it doesnt really make sense
If you cannot we will have to assume you made it up.
80s Warhammer Fantasy hits different, each race feel so different and cool in its own way. Now, Idk why, but all feels the same.
It's pretty incredible that all this resulted in goblins fighting dwarves just like in any other fantasy setting. Ask anyone where they see the falklands influence in warhammer fantasy.
lmao as if these dudes are actual fetishists. Le muscle mommy is just more publicly acceptable to constantly and annoyingly horny post about. Would you see any of these guys ever say boob armor is cool or that more characters should be wearing thongs? No, it's older, stronger, dominant women only, ever, because it lessens themselves.
Also yeah its pretty gay to jack off to broads on male hormones.
>No, it's older, stronger, dominant women only, ever, because it lessens themselves.
Also it's because if you look at it all these movements on some level are controlled by old infertile women, so of course they are butthurt when men love feminine and fertile younger girls.
>It's pretty incredible that all this resulted in goblins fighting dwarves just like in any other fantasy setting.
Dwarf vs goblin is a cliche since Tolkien, everyone know it and since Warhammer is heavily influenced by LotR makes sense. But the point here is not the cliche but the background or metanalysis.
I remember reading it in a metanalysis that Priestley did to explain the meaning of each of their creative decisions back then. If I find it, I will post it here.
because none of what is in that quote appeared in any of his interviews explaining warhammer
He explains Warhammer lore in other formats, not only in interviews.
so wheres the source? this isnt the first time ive seen someone make up a Priestley quote.
If I remember correctly, was in one of his AMA, someone ask him what were his influences (from other fictional works and IRL ones) during the creation of Rogue Trader.
how are you copy pasting it if you cant provide the source?
weird because lots of the studio were goblin and orc players
>Would you see any of these guys ever say boob armor is cool
Idk, but probably not, to me it's just a way for a female warrior character to say "look how female I am" which defeats the point. Eowyn is a great female warrior, because she dresses up in armor and a fancy helmet and people can't tell she's a woman, she's just a soldier. When Merry runs in to save her he has no idea that she's a woman, he's just trying to save a young terrified soldier. The experience of war is universally horrible whether you're a man or a woman.
The exception is that boob armor is great for gladiators, or for a culture that wants to ostentatiously show off the fact that it has female warriors, it makes sense in that context. And yea, the Imperium can be a bit ostentatious, but I still wouldn't put a custode in boob plate.
>or that more characters should be wearing thongs?
Depends entirely on the context.
>older, stronger, dominant women only, ever, because it lessens themselves.
>because it lessens themselves
lmao
No context, no "uh but what of the setting", they'll flatly never support any cheesecake of any other kind, because it's considered bad and harmful to women by their beliefs. But if the fetish is that the women are strong and in power than you can. People figured out that it's acceptable to have an incredibly annoying horny personality if you demean yourself enough.
This is why they scream and cry about sisters of battle. They're still barely augmented 80's sexy nuns and it's not enough to count. Custodes are nearly at the top of the warhammer foodchain.
no they didnt you lying moron
>making up shit
no one said what you are saying
>orks were based in british hooligans
Yes, that's very obviously a strong influence, did you really need anyone to tell you that?
>GW executives said that 40k was a satire of Thatcher's UK
Who, specifically?
if hes referring to what he posted in another thread,
The guy literally said he cant be sure of that.
you fricking homosexual frick off with your muh thatcher bullshit
of course its overblown the homosexuals lying. Hes trying to force a meme by repeating it ad nauseum. Even after it was debunked years ago.
Nice double spacing comrade
>It amazes me how many people forget that 40k was an anti-Thatcher satire created by Labor Party dudes
This remembers me the old harpy models, clearly inspired in UK and US right wing politicians of the 80s.
except that time they thanked Reagan in WD
>the creators wanted them to be mixed
There is no evidence of that whatever. At best it's, "They weren't idologically wed to the idea of them being all male and might well have made it otherwise had the market demanded it". Which is pretty obvious given that they wanted to sell toy soldiers.
>All male Space Marines is a retcon
>25% of the Adeptus Astartes would have been female.
You don't have a single fact to back that up.
This on is a curio. Not 100% on the story behind it other than being a prototype or "joke"
It's a portfolio sculpt by one of the 'Eavy Metal painters who was trying to move into sculpting for Citadel. Not even remotely official, and quite obvious why he was never hired as a sculptor looking at it.
40 years and they still cannot make female models. That's the problem.
Juan Diaz and Chris Fitzpatrick are the only two sculptors to ever work for Citadel who knew how to sculpt women (as opposed to men in wigs) and neither of them ended up working there very long.
>it wasn't canon before there was a canon
>checkmate chuds
Your arguments pass about as well as you do troon.
>"""retcon""" is in quoting marks
>aka OP knows is not a retcon
>is just exposing how tourists will use it as an excuse for an actual retcon to add female space marines
>you moron can't get it
I thought /tg/ have more IQ, I guess I was wrong.
>have
>quoting marks
Frick off, you illiterate moron.
It's lore but it's not lore.
and why does gw think people will buy them this time?
personally I am never buying shit from gw again but those who are still paypigs, why would they buy foid custodes / marines?
That's not a retcon. It's also not "logistics" or production because it wasn't an issue with producing or shipping the sprues. It's supply and demand in marketing. The demand for female ones was low. Nonexistent, even. Ergo, none were made.
I'd just about bet money on the Bananas (clearly no longer Bananamen) being equally low demand. GW is chasing what they believe is a market of 50% of the earth's population through "representation". They won't succeed for the same reason Disney failed at getting men interested in their Princess line.
The fuss over female Custodes is moronic. There's no thematic reason for them to be all male, and they're so heavily modified that the base structure having been female at one point is irrelevant. The difference between a Custodes and a male or female human is pretty much equally massive.
That said, I do think female space marines would be a mistake. Not because of the brain damage that afflicts people screeching about le woke agenda, but because it just doesn't fit thematically. Space marines are supposed to resemble all-male warrior monk orders in space. They are tightly designed around this look and feel, and having female marines would compromise that. There's a point where you can't have your cake and eat it too - you either want your brutal, horrible religious fanatic space crusader monks to be emblematic of the bad things you're drawing inspiration from, or you don't. The evil space catholofascists need to feel like evil space catholofascists.
>we totes meant SM to be female, but we knew female models of them wouldn't sell
>which is why we kept making female models for all our other ranges
>and introduced an all female army organized like the marines in the first rulebook
>nor did we feel necessary to make all the other armies all male, even if we didn't make any female models for them
Also, OP is a homosexual.
These people want to destroy you on every front
They want to break down your whole psychology so you may be reconstructed to live in their insane clown world
>you WILL love ugly manfaced "women"
>you WILL enjoy the girldick
>you WILL frick old infertile women
>ugly women break down my whole psychology
>trannies break down my whole psychology
>old infertile women break down my whole psychology
We don't specifically want to destroy your whole psychology but we also aren't sorry for it. You are a joke to us. You are a joke to everyone but yourselves.
yes you want to destroy society because of your own shortcomings
you will rather blame everyone than look at yourself and say "maybe I fricked up"
old women are exactly like this
>its my fault that after dating hundreds of men, getting multiple STD's, after having a blown out crotch that I am still single in my 40's
>no its obviously mens fault, where have all the good men gone
>the most sexually-desirable women are the most useless and helpless
lol
You will rather blame everyone than look at yourself and say "maybe I fricked up".
I mean, you're not just expression a preference for useless and helpless women, you are shrieking uncontrollably in response to the mere concept of a woman who is strong-relative-to-other-women.
Like I said, we don't specifically want to destroy your minds, but we're also not sorry for doing so. You people, by which I mean "weak sexist males crying about strong women in your manchild media", you people are a joke to everyone but yourselves.
>>the most sexually-desirable women are the most useless and helpless
no, that is you saying that
sexually desirable women are useful as mothers and caretakers
that is what women are supposed to be
not foul mouthed 9 feet tall muscular steel workers
and this is what I mean, you will rather try to break down society than accept biological reality and the fact that you fricked yourself through your own behaviour
You will never frick a woman
I mean if your standards 9 foot height and male hormones I don't think you're getting much either.
This is nonsense. Being stronger makes you a better mother and caretaker. Being physically superior is evidence of better genes, undeniably, but it's also evidence of a higher energy level and superior work ethic. Everyone can tell that you are projecting your own securities, so you can just stop pretending otherwise, what we really want to know is "why?" Can there be any explanation aside for the naked insecurity of a weak, languid male?
Because it's "the way of nature" or some other nonsense.
Uh, what are you, some kind of coward? Why isn't your fetish 12 foot tall women with skin of steel, that would clearly be even far greater child raisers than yours?
That literally is my fetish. But also I have a healthy appreciation for the distinction between fantasy fetishes and realistic fetishes. Fit women are my real-life fetish, 12 foot tall women belong to the realm of catgirl harems and tentacle pits.
Eventually catgirl harems and tentacle pits will be real, and I don't know what people are supposed to do about that, I have no answer. I just know that being attracted to warrior-women is perfectly healthy in the present.
>I just know that being attracted to warrior-women is perfectly healthy in the present.
its not and never was no matter how hard you try to push it
men who like actual women dont like men with veganas
Bigger healthier women in the real world are better mothers. Smaller weaker women in the real world are easier to subjugate, but that isn't the be-all end-all of human sexuality, I'm sorry that you've gotten so turned-around by idpol.
>Bigger healthier women in the real world are better mothers
>can't even produce milk anymore
>better mother
lmao
I think GPT-san ran out of tokens and needs a nap.
my two cents here, is whether it's healthy or not i think it does have a anchor in evolution. I feel that attraction to virago women and even mosnter girl is based on a desire to have these traits passed down to their progeny
>Fit women are my real-life fetish
We're not talking about fit women. Or warrior women, though that's an oxymoron. This is about gooning over custodes. Don't try to reduce that to "I like a woman who eats vegetables sometimes". It's only the bbw homies who like actively unhealthy women.
Whatever that brown rabbit girl from my hero academia, what's that called?
manga.
She's probably more about thighs than anything else. She really got some people worked up when they found out she's only 5 foot 2 though lol.
It's the same symptoms, I believe.
Isn't she a gimp now?
That's what someone told me
The mangaka is a homosexual. So yes.
Well I drop this years ago and effective only read porn of it .
You made the right decision
Y tho?
>Being stronger makes you a better mother and caretaker.
usually those "muscle mommies" cant even produce milk anymore due to their fricked up hormones
>Being physically superior is evidence of better genes
and that is why every animal in nature is a buffed out body builder
I know leftists aren't on speaking terms with reality, but come the frick on Black person
>and that is why every animal in nature is a buffed out body builder
Satire not found. Animals in nature literally are buffed out body builders. And does any species show a sexual preference for smaller, weaker females?
I'll give you this, a woman who is attracted to a man on steroids makes more sense than a man who is attracted to women on steroids, but at the end of the day they're both basically infertile.
>And does any species show a sexual preference for smaller, weaker females?
no, again that is why every animal is a planet sized body builder
small animals dont exist
lol
I hope you learn to cope.
your whole life is spent coping as reality doesnt fit your worldview
That is the most moronic shit I've read in a while. I get it, everyone has their kinks, but "muscle mommy" guys really let themselves be conditioned into actually believing theirs makes them somehow morally superior by homosexuals who just use what they are into as an argument when it's convenient for them. You know who would disagree with your entire take? Nature. By the very easily observable fact that human women aren't physically superior 9ft tall muscle mountains today. Somehow your
>physical superiority = better genes = better caretaker
didn't make it through millions of years of natural selection for human women and yet humans are still here. Somehow whatever our smaller, less physically strong women seemed to have going for them made them in fact better caretakers and preferable partners and in their continued survival the superior gene pool over your muscle mommies, who in reality only exist by woman artificially enhancing their muscles, strange how that works.
>By the very easily observable fact that human women aren't physically superior 9ft tall muscle mountains today.
Neither are human men, but I don't see you complaining about that.
>who in reality only exist by woman artificially enhancing their muscles,
I understand how that argument applies to female custodes, and if you dislike the idea of artificially enhanced females then that's fair, I'm sorry if I was too hard on you. At some point in the conversation I allowed myself to get side-tracked into a debate about real-life women and whether superior size/strength are sexually desirable. I don't picture custodes as people on steroids, I picture them as exaggerated platonic ideals of humanity hand-crafted by the emperor on a genetic level.
I've never seen a musclegirl/giantess fetishist on /tg/ who portrayed their fetish as morally superior. What usually happens is that insecure males accuse us of being gay and then we laugh at them.
Nah, "you don't like muscle women? Coward" is the rally cry of annoying dudes everywhere, while posting a woman built like an deviantart steroid fetishist.
Pretty much, it reminds me of pic related
Reminds me of furries and how hard they mald over catgirls.
For realsies?
You've never seen it? They screech and cry "coward!" because you don't want to rape a dog like they do.
You honestly see it a lot with modern degenerates. Fujos do the same thing, wailing and gnashing their teeth that the writers of a show are "too cowardly" to make their gay ship canon.
Even if the catgirl is a fury just not one with a snout?
Izutsumi from dungeon meshi isn't far enough for most.
They're probably more accepting of that but I imagine they'd say something along the lines of "you've come this far, quit being a coward and add a snout", but the crux of the matter is they use the same weird argumentation tactics of musclemommy homosexuals.
Snoots are a pretty important distinction. Hairless animals exist and fall under the furry umbrella. A cat may be hairless but it has a cat face. A human face covered in fur is still a human face and not a cat one.
The ultimate hilarity of statements like this is its probably some troon that has a worse hairline than me saying it lmao!
Stop acting like a woman
>Eve Online pfp
Based Marshal.
FOR THE IMPERIUM! FOR THE EMPEROR MITTANI!
That doesn't even back up what you're trying to push in bad faith.
It literally says
>retailers kept complaining to us that customers weren't buying the female models
>made it clear to us they weren't interested in buying female models
>it never occurred to us to make any of those (space marine) models female.
Its not a retcon if it was never part of the plan or ideas at all you fart huffing pond scum.
Female guard regiment in the style of valhallans and vostroyans would be better
>muscle mommy
I have yet to see someone who isn't a closeted gay like them.
I mean reastically actual gay guys ae really not into that kind of stuff.
>futa isn’t gay
>traps aren’t gay
You are here
if you don't like males with female attributes
What makes you think gays would like females with male attributes?
Bara art typically has manbreasts large and round enough to compete with the average musclegirl art
Yeah but they still look like men
Not that grotesque in between shit
I dunno man, I've seen some bara that's on par with those troony primarchs the closeted gays love to post.
And they look aesthetic af
So there you go, musclemommy gays are probably closeted baragays
Reminder that this is GW we are talking about, the models are gonna look ugly as sin
These threads are made, and entirely populated, by bots. Some of those bots are made of flesh, sure, but they're not people.
>everyone is an npc but me
>I am an enlightened free thinker
Maybey
I've become convinced of the quantum immortality thing.
No, NPCs have more personality than you.
Man. Times sure were different back then.
Weird to think about how 40k dudes were against the idea of painting a bikini babe.
We're living in a capitalist society.
If you can't give them more free money than Black Rock while expanding their credit and making their line go up on Wall Street, they'll naturally perform the zero effort Virtue Signaling Black Rock asks of them.
It's literally free money.
Falaut 3 and 4 are crap and Todd has no right to talk about retcons (prime example - Tod moron retconed ghouls and super mutants into undead and orcs because "it's more understandable for a casual player" lol). So shut up, Fallout lore fricked in the first place thanks to Todd, and the authors of the series did everything right by having a story separate from the games. And by the way, the plots of Fallout 3 and 4 are complete crap, but Todd was adamantly against using the plots and atmosphere of 1st and 2nd game, so again, screw Todd.
After female space marines become a thing this thread is the future of all ttg spaces online. Forever.
Can I play the Warhammer role playing game? I hear it's DnD but with Warhammer lore. I want to play an Adaptus Cadre
I just found out they retconned female ogryn into the game and I'm so hecking mad. I may not have read a single codex or novel but I know ogryn are big human guys, just like Space Marines are big human guys, so they must be basically the same thing. And I know Space Marines can't be females for reasons, so the same must be true for ogryn! Clearly this is an SJW ploy to destroy our hobby! Gamers rise up!
why are you guys suddenly talking about real-world politics?