All memes aside, is it a decent game?
I just want a casual timewaster to binge after work
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All memes aside, is it a decent game? I just want a casual timewaster to binge after work
Why would you want to 'waste' time? Do something you think is enjoyable instead, just wasting time after work is gonna make your miserable once the next work day comes around.
bro, it's a fricking blizzard game
why would you need to ask about anything else
It's fun, yes. Don't know how well endgame stands against other games but I don't play these game autistically and only for like 100-200 hours.
I've been enjoying it a lot, I didn't think blizzard were capable of making decent games anymore.
I have no idea how endgame holds up as I only just got there yesterday but 1-50 was very good for an arpg at launch.
A little safe, as some people have said, but still very solid after the first couple levels drip feed you a few basic skills.
It's only fun if you don't have arpg chronic autism
Huh, that sells the game for me. I enjoy Diablo campaigns but that's about it. I never touch them beyond that
if you like arpgs without being an autistic diablo2 moron you're going to like d4
it's only fun if you're a dad gamer
Luckily, I am
if you only have 1 hour a day to play the game due to having to work 400 hours a week, taking care of your 15 children while at the same time fulfilling your wife needs, then the game can be good for you. But you'll have to ignore all the major flaws and bad design choices
Doesn't hit the spot for mee em though I'm as dad as they come.
just wait til its on game pass.
Yeah, it's fun. I'm level 64 currently, just unlocked world tier 4 (i.e. the highest difficulty), and I've enjoyed my time with it. There are entirely valid points of criticism, but I feel like they've built a really solid foundation to improve/expand upon.
And to be clear, I don't mean that in the whole "they'll fix it with DLC" way, like the game is currently broken and you have to have faith they'll handle it. I mean that everything works as-is out of the box, and its systems are very clearly designed for easy tweaking and expansion. Ultimately, my hope is that they continue to develop for depth rather than just spectacle, flesh out and add variety to the things they've already built instead of the PoE route of just layering more and more gimmicky systems on top of each other.
is there a soloish endgame like adventures in d3?
Yes. Once you beat the campaign you never have to play it again, can start new characters/seasons (eventually) in Adventure mode.
But in terms of the actual proper endgame, it revolves around sigils/Nightmare dungeons. Sigils are just PoE maps, i.e. single use items that transform a dungeon into a harder variant with randomized positive/negative augmentations and a revive limit (if you're playing softcore). Upon completion, you're awarded XP that can be allotted to your glyphs, which are kind of like legendary gems from D3 that give passive bonuses when equipped. The glyphs tie into your Paragon boards, which open up upon reaching level 50 are are sort of the equivalent of PoE's passive talent tree.
In essence, D4 endgame is like a fusion of D3 Greater Rifts and PoE mapping, more complex than the former but simpler than the latter.
I just hit 60. How hard is the capstone dungeon to unlock WT4? I've already done nightmare dungeons with mobs at level 67 so I was curious if I should just attempt to knock it out early instead of waiting until 70.
I think my biggest problem with the game is the level scaling. It just feels so odd. It made sense in D3 when you had rifts that you could just hop right into. But with such a large map and so many dungeons, it feels like it would've been better just to have static levels across the board. I know why they didn't, so that they could do their weird MMO style rotation of content where you run around from point A to point B depending on what lights up or whatever. But it still feels bad.
There's also a weird thing where stuff like nightmare dungeons scale completely differently than other content so it ends up feeling kind of confusing what you should be tackling and when.
Combined with the fact that itemization is so needlessly complex, it makes powercreep feel almost non existent. And I don't mean complex in the good way either. So far I'm having issues trying to prioritize certain stats because you have so much redundancy between them. An example is "Critical Strike" chance versus "Overpower" chance which effectively do the same exact thing of giving you a crit. So what's the point in segmenting the stats? It feels like they split a bunch of stats just to pretend to have a complex system but it ends up trying to optimize builds more annoying than feeling like you're making actual decisions.
Pretty fricking hard, tbh. That's going to vary by player/build (I'm playing a Twisting Blades Rogue), but I was able to pretty easily clear rank 16/17/18 NDs with level 70+ enemies before I could complete the capstone. The final boss is awful if you can't burn him down quick, so it's essentially a DPS check.
>The final boss is awful if you can't burn him down quick
Does he have adds? My whole build sort of relies on it and I'm able to decimate bosses that have them.
Doing a death blow barb at the moment because I refuse to do whirlwind as that's what I see from 99% of barbs. That and I've always loved frenzy.
Yeah, lots and lots of adds. When the fight starts you get a short window to just wail on him solo, then the arena starts getting flooded with mobs and AOE damage. My character is very glass cannon, and it was hard for me to stay alive getting molested from every angle like that, but if you're playing a sturdier build that's good in a crowd you may have an easier time.
>Yeah, lots and lots of adds.
Based, going to try this later then and see how I do. I'm sure I'll get cucked trying it at 60 but frick it
>I just want a casual timewaster to binge after work
And people wonder why new games suck
Its a single player MMOrpg where you do side quests for 100 hours while having 5 buttons to press
do people think mmos having 20 button presses (16 of them being buffs that you have to constantly press to keep them active/macro into 1 button press) was good gameplay?
>compares one extreme to another
how genuine and good faith'd of you
EverQuest was perfection.
Yeah
The game is great fun so long as you follow these steps
1)start in WT2, the extra enemy power is negligible at low levels
2)around the end of act 1 swap to WT1. The leveling is a little slower but you are likely in between power spikes on the leveling curve.
3)when you get your key passive go back to wt2
4)realize that everything nothing is actually scaling up, you are overcoming everything having been scaled down.
Normal is balanced around level 50 and having a full skill tree, you begun to feel powerful at that time. Nightmare is balanced for 70 but you can get pretty strong rocking higher tier NM dungeons. Higher tiers does NOT increase maximum item power you see- thats tied to your level, not the item level!- instead it improves your drops to make the average closer to the high end of your level determined max item power range.
The scaling in normal difficulty can be absolutely horrendous, especially if you get unlucky with drops and stick to WT2.
>The scaling in normal difficulty can be absolutely horrendous
It's really weird. I went from crushing shit from 1-30ish then hit a wall around 30-40ish where I was struggling a lot and barely doing any damage. Then I hit 50 and was thinking WT3 was going to be hard but I've been cruising since then. Level scaling always is done so poorly because the mechanic itself is such shit.
I'm on the fence at whether to get this now for the stupid rrp or wait
D3 was obviously better after launch but this one looks like it might be better to be playing from day 1
Barbarian got boring very quickly once I realised there's no gameplay changing legendary aspects. Essentially the build you get at level 20 is the same you habe at level 50.