tab targeting in ff14 is the worst thing ever created you specifically keybind the "target closest enemy" and yet it still targets the enemy 30 yards away and not the one right in your face
both, seeing and attacking, you should only be able to have vision in the direction your character is facing, if you want to look into certain direction, well, turn to that direction
Action combat can be many things, just look at Dark Souls and Monster Hunter with the target locking which is sort of the same as tab targeting except all the projectiles and moves are physical objects that can be dodged.
The problem is that every Action-MMO for some reason adopts a shooter control scheme where the camera is locked to the mouse and you need to aim everything. It sucks.
I can't think of a single Action-MMO that uses more conventional singleplayer action control schemes like unlocked movement and target locking except for maybe PSO.
No I just hate shooters, I played them to death when I was younger but I realized they're bland nonsense when compared to good action games and fighting games.
>I hate when I have to point my spear at the enemy before thrusting, it reminds me too much of guns and I hate using guns
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's the same control scheme, the movement of your character is locked towards the camera direction. Instead of adding depth to the gameplay itself through animations and timing you play this dumb little mini-game of aiming your move over the character you want to hit, it never changes, it's always the same and it's boring.
I don't mind tab targeting but I do notice how it seems to be atrocious in nearly every game, e.g., you are fighting two enemies at the same time and have one targeted but the game will target through mobs on the other side of the screen before it targets the goddamn second add in front of you.
Action combat will never work for MMOs, the technology just isn't there. At most you'll have split action like ESO. Whatever combat system Riot decides to implement in their mmo will define the standard, and it will most likely be tab target.
It's true though, new world has full action combat and ranged weapons with ballistics, it's basically everything you ever dreamed of as a kid when playing wow. Idk why everyone shits their pants whenever new world is mentioned.
I posted videos here which show it fully:
New World is the only mmorpg with true action combat and ballistic projectiles for ranged weapons. It's a massive step up from tab targeting.
>nah the combat is shit
nah, it's really good and you're seething that tab targeted combat is outdated and will go the way of turnbased combat.
2 years ago
Anonymous
actually the opposite, new world will be a cautionary tale for aspiring mmo devs, if anything new world killed enthusiasm for action combat. good day, pajeet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cool video from launch week, but whatever you're not interested in having an intellectually honest discussion, which is extremely ironic since you keep throwing around shill.
We're getting there, New World works even though it's a really bad action game. It's only a matter of time before the server architecture becomes cheap enough for others to use it; or similar solutions.
I like tab target MMOs but I like target-locking action games better.
all 11 people that still care about mmo pvp agree with you already
action combat is horrid for pve too
>dead genre should abandon anything that makes the genre feel less dead
MMO gamers are just mobile gamers who can't afford phones
tab targeting in ff14 is the worst thing ever created you specifically keybind the "target closest enemy" and yet it still targets the enemy 30 yards away and not the one right in your face
New World is the only mmorpg with true action combat and ballistic projectiles for ranged weapons. It's a massive step up from tab targeting.
3v3s:
20v20s:
50v50s:
OWPVP:
>It's a massive step up from tab targeting
But the game is a massive step back from everything else
I wouldn't say everything, but yeah you're basically right
>open world
>1 vs 2
its shit
50vs50 its the only thing thats a improvement
I just youtube'd new world owpvp, there will be larger battles over forts, but it all depends on how many people show up to contest it
here's another one:
if only for the big pvp it would be worth trying but i dont see myself wasting 23 bucks to see if i enjoy it
to be fair, you'd also have to grind to max level which is a much higher cost than 23 bucks as well
t. boomer moron
ok but camera should be attached to character's head, no seeing what's behind you while you are facing the other direction non-sense.
>seeing
you mean attacking?
both, seeing and attacking, you should only be able to have vision in the direction your character is facing, if you want to look into certain direction, well, turn to that direction
Mmo is a dead genre and nobody gives a shit.
Only popular mmo's nowadays focus on plot and story.
there's not much difference between well implemented tab targeting vs lock on
>lock on
what are you talking about, that is basically tab targeting
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Action combat can be many things, just look at Dark Souls and Monster Hunter with the target locking which is sort of the same as tab targeting except all the projectiles and moves are physical objects that can be dodged.
The problem is that every Action-MMO for some reason adopts a shooter control scheme where the camera is locked to the mouse and you need to aim everything. It sucks.
I can't think of a single Action-MMO that uses more conventional singleplayer action control schemes like unlocked movement and target locking except for maybe PSO.
>It sucks.
Nah it's based, you shouldn't be able to lock on skillshots for abilities.
I'm sick of shooters man, your amazing head-clicking skillshots belong in fortnite.
I rather do an unlocked fireball throw like in Elden Ring.
ok so you're just bad at video games
No I just hate shooters, I played them to death when I was younger but I realized they're bland nonsense when compared to good action games and fighting games.
>I hate when I have to point my spear at the enemy before thrusting, it reminds me too much of guns and I hate using guns
It's the same control scheme, the movement of your character is locked towards the camera direction. Instead of adding depth to the gameplay itself through animations and timing you play this dumb little mini-game of aiming your move over the character you want to hit, it never changes, it's always the same and it's boring.
Tab target? Get the frick out of here. MMOs should go back to being turn based.
I don't mind tab targeting but I do notice how it seems to be atrocious in nearly every game, e.g., you are fighting two enemies at the same time and have one targeted but the game will target through mobs on the other side of the screen before it targets the goddamn second add in front of you.
the only mmo i've played to the end was classic wow and the tab targeting in that did not have that problem
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Action combat will never work for MMOs, the technology just isn't there. At most you'll have split action like ESO. Whatever combat system Riot decides to implement in their mmo will define the standard, and it will most likely be tab target.
New World already has it, and it's really good.
you're not fooling anyone, shill
It's true though, new world has full action combat and ranged weapons with ballistics, it's basically everything you ever dreamed of as a kid when playing wow. Idk why everyone shits their pants whenever new world is mentioned.
I posted videos here which show it fully:
nah the combat is shit and i'm well aware of the videos you've been spamming across various threads, shill.
>nah the combat is shit
nah, it's really good and you're seething that tab targeted combat is outdated and will go the way of turnbased combat.
actually the opposite, new world will be a cautionary tale for aspiring mmo devs, if anything new world killed enthusiasm for action combat. good day, pajeet.
Cool video from launch week, but whatever you're not interested in having an intellectually honest discussion, which is extremely ironic since you keep throwing around shill.
We're getting there, New World works even though it's a really bad action game. It's only a matter of time before the server architecture becomes cheap enough for others to use it; or similar solutions.
I like tab target MMOs but I like target-locking action games better.
Incorrect. Legend of Zelda/Dark Souls style Z-Targeting action combat MMORPG when
It seems most MMO players can't wrap their head around what this means.
Man I wish Dragon's Dogma Online came out in the west.
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