>alt fire
>shoots two rounds
What were they thinking?
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>alt fire. >shoots two rounds
>alt fire
>shoots two rounds
What were they thinking?
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>I think the alt fire should fire two rounds
Probably something like that
They were thinking "let's make the most satisfying shotgun in FPS history"
I genuinely can't argue with that. Nothing else comes close
f.e.a.r. and halo ce
untrue. HL1's (and by extension black mesa's) shotgun is king
2's is better, 1 shotgun feels like shit. Ragdolls improve it a hundred percent.
the sound effect isnt as good. Black mesa does it better
black mesa's gun sfx are awful. the mp5 particularly so
>Black mesa does it better
Black Mesa weapons have dogshit sfx and animations to the point of being unplayable without the KF2/COD gun animation mod.
>can't shoot to interrupt reloading
Black Mesa is fricking garbage.
I definitely remember you can do that in hl2 and bm is in source engine
But you can? The damage is kind of shit, but most weapons are.
HL1 shotgun is garbage on Hard and if you don't play HL games on Hard you're a fricking casual.
Some say it's the bottom barrel shooting, but I doubt it. You can hear two consecutive shots, when you alt fire
HL2's shotgun maybe, in 1 it's more of an
>aw frick I have no SMG/revolver/TAU cannon ammo left
gun
The popup when you get it says 'mouse2: fire both barrels.'
There is no bottom barrel on a SPAS 12. That tube you see is the magazine for the shells.
It's not a real life SPAS 12. It just sort of looks like one.
>hl1
>SMG>shotgun
what's your favorite flavor of glue, anon?
>Shotgun requires you to be at the melee range AND not missing any pellets to kill half a second faster than the smg
>Not headshotting with the smg
Not to mention that the HECU have the tendency to zoom across the map after you hit them once
HL 1's shot gun is great for deleting vortigaunts and zombies. They're not worth the ammo from high tier guns
With an orange tiger skin
Yes. I think the only other shotgun that comes close is the one from F.E.A.R.
HL1 shotgun is almost Doom 3 shotgun level of bad if you play on hard mode. The shotgun becomes a glorified melee weapon.
The shotgun is designed to be a close range gun, especially the double barrel alternatate fire. It definitely becomes a pea shooter at even medium distances. I think Valve made it that way so people could use the nice variety of weapons.
Every gun in HL1 is bad on hard
SMG is decent on hard until you deplete all of your ammo.
The SMG is the worst weapon on hard because it deals so little damage, it's only useful for killing headcrabs
Nah, it has great DPS but burns though ammo quickly. And the grenade launcher is very useful. The worst weapon is the Hive Hand, but it at least has the niche of firing around corners. And snarks because they are very situational.
DPS is useless when you objective is killing the enemy before he kills you
In this respect
TAU > Gluon > Magnum > SMG Grenade > SMG > Shotgun
Worst first, right?
>Need to wind up gun and find a spot that doesn't ricochet back at you VS just double fire someone as soon as they pop out of the cover
It's HL1, -you- create the conditions of engagement in 99% of fights. Since everyone has perfect aim, the faster you kill the better. TAU > all.
The game hands you a lot of explosives. Personally I use up all my grenades and remote mines whenever I see the HECU troopers.
>you- create the conditions of engagement in 99% of fights
Sure you do, if you've already played the game 100 of times, but at that point, you just toss nades around corners to avoid engaging them to begin with.
>Perfect aim
357, no question. 6 grunts taken out easily.
dumb list when you don't even have the tau cannon and gluon gun for large portions of the game
where's the fricking crossbow
you get tau about halfway through the game, maybe earlier
>the shotgun only deals 60 damage
That's before you take headshot multiplier into account
>where's the fricking crossbow
reserved for killing sharks
I love damage/health autism, especially in a /k/ thread.
If I were to rework the guns, I would take away the double shot, but give one shot nine pellets. The SMG would be fine if the silencer actually worked. Otherwise, it should not have a damage penalty over the glock, but give the HECU 100 health to compensate.
HECU can tank a fricking double barreled shot to the face on hard and you can't switch your weapon during the pumping animation like in HL2.
The smg is better in every way.
>HECU can tank a fricking double barreled shot to the face
They kinda can't but you need to be really close and you to hit specifically the face part, not the helmet, which I believe is protective in the same way shiny parts of Agrunt armor's are (40% less bullet damage).
HECU has 80 HP while the shotgun only deals 60 damage. It is only strong enough to one shot a vortigaunt at melee range.
1+2 is objectively faster than sustained SMG fire, especially if you're not an aimlet and skip the first shot
they will usually retreat after catching an m2. that's when you hit them in the back with the smg. you are fricked if you click on their head and they have a helmet tho
HL2
bootiful
Doom 3 begs to differ. It's so bad that it loops back around and becomes the best of all time...
I like Doom 3's shotgun too. It's underpowered and the range is way too short but has a cool design and nice feedback. If it were a little stronger in game it'd be perfect.
Doom 3 shotgun can consistently down a hell knight in three shots if you aim for the head. You can only do that at melee range but Doom 3 level design centered around CQC anyway.
not enough people understand D3's shotgun is extremely powerful, you just have to be point blank. and that's intentional, it's a risk/reward thing.
instead people try to snipe with it and then call it shit.
I like it since it's just Quake 3 shotgun.
Nevertheless, I think the Doom 3 shotgun got rightfully shat on. The enemy shotgun marine can consistently hit you across the corridor because their shotgun is akin to the original Doom shotgun.
Flak Cannon.
My favorite gun in COD: Black Ops it feels right
gta 4 combat shotgun
PUBG shotguns are good
you can literally see 2 barrels though and not sure why the developers don't make use of the top barrel
almost got me anon
don't mean to be a gungay but thats where the shells sit before they go into the gun
Bad bait
not an fps gay but do they do less total dmg at least ?
>game never unfolds the stock
>tfw your back hurts from being the only thing keeping their channel alive
The stock is shit anyways.
IRL there's no reason to have the stock folded unless you're in extremely cramped space but in-game view models look better when it's folded.
>but in-game view models look better when it's folded.
I must be the only person who thinks top folding shotgun stocks look moronic when folded.
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Soldier of Fortune did.
I'm not sure how it's been changed, but in Payday 2, you had to "buy the stock" to the Spas-12 in order to use it. It was like $40,000 to just unfold the fricking stock
Supposedly it's a piece of shit IRL. Known for firing when you turn the fricking safety off in early models.
>this dude has cancer now
I fricking hate this world
the spas-12 pounds loaded ;^)
The early lever safety's had a defect that over time would wear down a latch on the hammer itself and eventually would drop the hammer upon taking the safety off. For this reason, it's recommended to use the bolt unlock/quick deploy safety tab on the left-hand side of the trigger guard, since that will also disconnect the trigger. If you have a later model, it might have a more typical crossbolt style safety which from what I've heard has no issues.
>t. owns a spas-12
Maybe that's why the alt-fire fires two rounds. The one you meant to and one accidental discharge.
Would a over under pump action even be possible?
There's probably a way to engineer some fancy loading system to load each barrel, but at that point you may as well make a semi-auto or a regular over under shotgun
>semi auto double barrel
woah hold on my penis can only get so erect
>primary fire is inaccurate as shit
>secondary turns it into a sneeze
Ah yes my designated barnacle and headcrab killing weapon.
Really even Barney's pistol is more useful overall, you can even headshot HECUs reliably with it.
Notice: If your shotgun can't gib stuff then it's not even in S rank.
Gordon just very quickly, turns on semi-auto, pulls the trigger twice and turns it back to pump action. He should be able to do that, he's a highly trained professional.
You think devs go out and shoot these guns? I mean, how often do you see an alt mode for a M1897 to be slamfire 'auto'?
Is this a shotgun or a SPAS thread?
>Alt-fire is pumping more shells into barrels
I'm moronic
I've definitely played something other than Turok Evolution that had it. Though maybe I'm thinking of UT's rocket launcher or something that uses a similar idea.
what games did this? I swear I've played one but can't remember the name.
Syphon Filter let you pump the shotgun whenever you like but it didn't really do anything outside of making a cool sound.
Gunman Chronicles lets you shoot 1, 2, 3, or 4 shells at once for its shotgun, along with a tight / medium / wide spread. Some of the weapon modes are pretty creative.
Is there any other gamem besides half-lifem that allows you to shoot with the "two" spas-12 barrels?
Some developer mistook the magazine tube for a second barrel
Half Life HD model shotgun has the most satisfying SFX of any vidya shotgun ever made.
>Fire semi auto gun twice
>Take a break because the double recoil hurt your arm
It's not that complicated.
Why was this THE shotgun of 90's movies?
It looks quite futuristic
Shotguns were either plain old pump-actions like a Remington 870, or generic double-barrels. Spas-12 looked heavy, mean, exotic, and industrial.
it looks cool
Can you think of any other shotgun that worked with almost every shell, was visually distinct and didn't require an ffl license to own, all of these in the same time period?
Wrong, the spas 12 is notorious for being picky with what shells will cycle it in semi, plus it's heavy as all frick.
It does look cool that being said, doesn't matter the Benelli M2 and M3 super 90 made the spas 12 and 15 irrelevant.
For me it's Area 51's M-170
?t=96
The best weapon in the game.
Is he ok
Tis but a flesh wound
>leave the spas-12 to me.
I have an m3, is that good enough?
you can pump an m3 so it gets points for that
No, it's too old by now, Beretta 1301 mildly better and have a bigger after market.
>no holding alt-fire that lets you slamfire a shotgun
the game was already censored enough to get a german release
Beta Counter-Strike does use slamfire for the M3 shotgun
i recenently watched the first jurassic park and finally learned what the metal thing at the top is good for
thank you "clever girl"-guy
>>What were they thinking?
>We need "something" for alt-fire
>Ah frick it just make it fire two rounds
>What were they thinking
Is this fun?
Yes!
Okey let's do it.
I think it was because the double barrel shotguns in fps were getting REALLY popular back in the day , from doom to quake and etc. Both in single player and in online deathmatches.
Valve wanted to HL to be revolutionary and "not like the other games", but also be familiar to other gamers of the period. So they mashed and mixed a single pump action and double barrel shotgun function into a one, impossible irl gun.
TFC which actually directly comes from Quake strangely enough does seperate a single shot and double shot shotguns into 2 weapons.
Because there is a second barrel under the first barrel.
>Game has a great shotgun
>Ammo is extremely rare or else it would break the game
Goddamit I hate it but I get it, at least give me infinite ammo mode after beating the game as a reward so I can blast everything away
Marathon 2 is good about this. Shit is OP as frick and there's a few levels where ammo literally gets dropped on you as you run around slaughtering everything, but outside of those times its rare. Best of both worlds.
who rember
>What were they thinking?
It's a video game. That's what they were thinking. Designing video games around IRL restraints is boring.
They probably didn't know that the thing under the barrel is the magazine, not another barrel.
Valve in particular had a lot of noguns which is why you had shit like pulling on the forward assist as if it was the charging handle.
>alt fire
>shoots two rounds
In Area 51 they just gave the gun two barrels
You know the spas 12 is a semi automatic shotgun anon, right ?
>SPAS-12
>pump-action
What were they thinking?