>Party defeats moronic number of enemies
>They all have swords or spears or crossbows
>Other player tries to grab dirt to throw into face of one who is on top of him
>Denied because the "ground is made of a tough clay and your fingers cannot get any purchase" (important for later)
>When all enemies are dead my guy takes all of their swords off the bodies
>Cut up leather armors and use wood to create bellows
>Use clay to create primitive forge
>Start melting down swords and metal armors and speartips from enemies
>Making iron ingots to sell
>DM is getting mad at me because I am "wasting time"
>I say it's what my character would do which it is, why put myself in harms way in a dungeon when I could just make iron ingots
>Kicks me out when I try to leave dungeon to go sell ingots
Wtf, I'm just trying to make some money
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Yes. You are wrong for imagining this stupid story, wrong for typing it up, and even more wrong for posting it.
You don't need to out yourself so eagerly, newbie.
OP's story is typical and anyone who has had the misfortune of starting with D&D has experienced something like this.
You get pulled into the hobby with promises of immersion, roleplaying and infinite freedom and the the first GM you come across only wants to railroad a bland, combat-heavy dungeon crawl where you can't do anything non-standard.
And the GM is also too moronic to talk with the players in a normal way or ask them what they expect of the game.
>promises of immersion, roleplaying and infinite freedom
That's not dungeons & dragons, go play a fricking powered by the apocalypse game or something
Yeah OP D&D isn't good for anything other than killing enemies in a dungeon
What surprises me is that usually the other half of the equation is selling loot in town but apparently that's a bit too much for your GM
Always so easy to spot faux-SR gays.
I refuse to believe this actually happened.
There cannot be two people in the same group that are both this fricking moronic *and* autistic.
Makes me want to see critical role but everyone is very autistic
Yes, you are totally in the wrong and should feel bad about it.
PF2e has rules for this situation. It's not as profitable as going adventuring specifically to annoy players like you. I love this game so much bros.
I did this to the homosexual who decided he was going to shave coins all fricking day, based DM
Oh yay let's just dogpile on the entroponeur and side with homosexual DM instead of explaining what exactly the problem is, I even offer to take over temporary party member (dog) while I am walking back to town to sell my goods but not good enough???
I will give you benefit of doubt and assume this isnt a troll.
You are probably on the autism spectrum and struggle with social communication, this is common in the ttrpg community.
The reason is that the other players (including GM) came to enjoy a game about fighting monsters, and you turned it to a trade game. The GM disliked that because you were stubborn about it and because it felt like a mockery of his work.
Bro obviously your party has absolutely no intention of becoming gay little recycle scrappers.
And learn how to spell entrepreneur,
Go kill a monster for some coins instead
How the frick would iron ingots be worth more than weapons and armor made out of them? If there's a sudden overflow of iron arms on the market that might make sense, but usually raw iron is forged into iron goods, not the other way around, so the latter must have an added cost.
captcha: AXPNP
I tried to do it before that I take the weapons and sell them to merchants but the DM made it so that nobody wanted to buy them
I mean you're making poorly processed pig iron. If I was the DM I would have let you sell several pounds of it for a small amount of money, proper processing has to be done on those metals and I don't think you would have had access to the charcoal furnaces necessary to do this. It would have taken several days of building, charcoal burning, preparation etc. as well as several skill checks and even then you would have been given a hard roll in order to make anything of value. You would have had to have spent hours cooking crucibles and bricks, making molds, then there's the fact that you would have needed to shred the iron to make it melt properly, removing all leather handles, wood or any other features that would taint the resulting metal.
Then after if I had to guess around 8-12 days of constant work, collecting wood, and running this construction project to get everything set up then I would have let you roll to see if you made some mediocre quality metal. The idea is still stupid, it's just that your DM was even more moronic because he had no concept of proper pre-industrial metallurgy protocol.
Then he reaped what he'd sown, the crops nourished by your magnificent autism.
I was on the GM's side when reading the OP, but now... he deserves you.
It could be that there's no demand for weapons and armour and a lot of demand for tools which a blacksmith could make out of OP's metal.
If there's a
>moronic number
of armed folks around, there's demand for weapons and armour. The dm had to mangle together a cultural aversion to using the arms & armour of whatever op was fighting.
Real issue is the dm and player wanted incompatibly different sorts of game.
OP being autistic didn't help either.
It’s a RuneScape economy
5e rules state that the weapons of enemies are worthless and cannot be sold.
Cite the exact book and page
>melting down already made weapons and armour to resell raw ore
you idiot
Okay the point that quality is bad is fair, I think it is overboard to kick me for it but then guys if you could all suggest some money making ideas that I could make work that is more realistic and acceptable?
Some ideas
>Use leather to sew capes for market stall
>Sell tickets to dungeon and give guided tours to npcs in rooms party have cleared
>Ask party to capture enemies live and use them as "freak shows" for profits
>Convince children to play in dungeon and lock them in until parents pay me a ransom
Use weapons and armour to make your own bandit gang, steal and loot as needed with your thugs.
Update, the GM blocked me without replying to idea, my game is over sadly
Gotta be more subtle before diving right into dickassthief stuff autism next time autism anon.
glhf
You're in luck and should have quite the game long ago.
BAHAHA you autistic moron, they have been looking for an excuse to get rid of you since day one. You've been nothing but a detriment to the game and have actively made participating in it unpleasant
Try looting dungeons
DM just gives stupid shit and it's hard to make money, I want to be a millionaire and also make businesses so I can adventure in comfort
I messaged DM this idea and he read but not answered, will update
>DM just gives stupid shit and it's hard to make money, I want to be a millionaire and also make businesses so I can adventure in comfort
What are you playing?
What was the campaign elevator pitch?
Adventuring in comfort isn't really an adventure.
Path Finder, in this campaign there is a town that is experiencing missing people and their chewed up body parts are being found, people "witness" different things so it is apparently a werewolf/demon/vampire/shadow ghost doing it, anyway there was an old man who said that when he was a kid he fell into a well in a courtyard and there was a big iron door locked up and recently he was able to buy the property and hired a adventerer down there to explore it but the adventurer disappeared and since then all the murders have happened, anyway he came to us as a group and hired us to stop it
So why aren’t you just playing into the hook? By the time you build your successful business in 5-10 years this menace will have eaten your customer base.
Should slay the beast and then go into business selling beast slaying branded weapons and knives.
I said I would be a dog temporary party member while my MC goes back into town to sell ingots but they said no bc dogs arern't supposed to talk, I try my best to work with but also make my business succeed
And it's a big town, tens of thousands, only like 6 people are dead so far in months
Sounds like they want to run a gritty-dark-fantasy-horror-mystery sort of thing and you're trying to play it as a breakable-fantasy-videogame-economics thing to have imaginary swag.
Coordinate what sort of game you want to play, if its incompatible find a different group.
bump
Nah you don't know how to vibe with the party, you deserve to be kicked from EVERY game.
>The local merchants guild arrives with a retinue of 20 level 7 fighting men to break your kneecaps for unlicensed business.
Assuming you aren’t being a troll just play the game like a normal person and ask the GM for money making opportunities in your character’s downtime
Holy kek, if this is a troll it's a good one cause I frickin laughed.
If you aren't already diagnosed you should look into getting tested for autism
Great minds think alike, any dungeon room will likely have more opportunities for monetization than just looting of it's denizens.
GO INTO THE DUNGEON KILL MONSTERS GET TREASURE AND SURVIVE TO RETURN TO TOWN, PLAY A DIFFERENT GAME IF YOU WANT TO BE A LITTLE homosexual MERCHANT
These are all good ideas
>Start melting down swords and metal armors and speartips from enemies
Why? Who is buying a sword worth of steel for more than they'd pay for the finished article?
Why would you waste time melting down ready weapons to sell them you fricking mong?
Do you have any idea how long that would take and how little yield you'd get?
Kill ttrpg players. Embrace 40k instead.
This is objectively some video game shit to do, so it's gay, but a good DM should have been able to negotiate the situation more effectively than just "stop that, get out."
You're a fricking moron. A dungeon probably isn't properly ventilated for forging. You're character probably doesn't know how to make a proper kiln, or crusible. You're probably too much of a fricking idiot to know that you are supposed to clean the steel before you heat it. Or the stupidity of mixing unknown steels together. Swords are hardenable steel with soft cores, armor runs the gamut depending on certain factors. Also did you know you can burn metal if you're not careful?
I would have your character die from heat & fumes on a mountain of burnt slag.. I'd tear your sheet & tell you to kick rocks
> That's what my character would do.
Heart attack, you die. Make a character that wouldn't do that. And wouldn't betray, backstab or abandon his team.
Did you have a very limited carrying capacity? A finished product like a sword or armor is going to be more valuable than it's material components.
Also while that's neat and all, why go back to town immediately? It's not like your ingots are going to go bad over night.
The thing is, conservation of matter implies swords and spearheads would be just as heavy to carry back as the resulting raw iron, so it's still stupid.
You might be removing the wooden bits. And it might be easier to carry as an ingot than a bundle of swords and bulky armor. But yeah, DnD goes only be weight not awkwardness.
kek
>GM said all the merchants are racist towards enemies and don't want their stuff so
Seems like the GM has a scoop of the tism too.
I wasn't allowed to sell looted swords, GM said all the merchants are racist towards enemies and don't want their stuff so this was me trying to work with that limitation and make some profits
I wanted to go to town straight away because I would be able to burgle the old man on my way out, he has some opulence and I bet I could even steal the deed and get ownership of the house that way before the party comes out, I thought it would be a nice surprise for them to come out and have lots of gold all ready for them
OP is the reason why talking to people don't work
All the reasonable attempts have been made. At this point its just seeing how hilariously autistic OP can be at the hapless GM.
>That’s fine Anon.
>Since iron ingots aren’t covered by the dungeon salvage treaty put in place by the local gentry you’ll have to join the merchant union to sell those legally, meaning you need to pay licensing fees, taxes, handling fees, registration fees, goods transportation fees, tariffs, and other miscellaneous fees and taxes associated with being a merchant in this area
>I have the rules written down here for being merchants in this setting if you want to use them, however I already ran the calculations and the costs associated come to around 31700% of the iron’s actual worth and you should break even in about 27 years after initial fixed costs
Chad knows the score. I for one like it when the Dwarf God personally takes the limbs and tongue of any unlicensed mineral peddlers.
This story is fake and gay but if it were true I would immediately boot you out of the game for wasting everyone's time with this dumb shit.
Has 5e caused everyone to forget the concept of downtime?
>DM
Yes, you're wrong.
Rectify this by playing a game.
Entirely deserved. If your character has the motivation of "why put myself in harms way in a dungeon when I could just make iron ingots" then the DM is giving your character the comfortable life to make iron ingots without getting in harms way.
You really should thank your DM for not killing your character off and you can rest easy knowing he's living a comfy life making and selling iron ingots while others traverse dungeons.
Your only mistake is trying to apply OSR approach in what seems to be nu-DnD (presumably 5e run by a zoomer DM).
>leaving the dungeon while doing it
>potentially alone
just asking for dungeon bandits to rob you or for monsters to just repopulate that area of the dungeon with traps
Anon, no chance in hell some clay bricks and a campfire can get refined iron hot enough to melt it into ingots. You need around 2.8K F to melt pure iron, but chacoal only gets up to around 700 F, you'd need actual coal for that, since they can burn to around 3.5K F under ideal circumstances (which a makeshift """forge""" isn't).
African natives figured blast furnace smelting in 2000 BCE, I'm sure average (10 Int, 10 Wis) player character can do the same.
Do you. REALLY think the average moron that inhabits this website could come up with that on the spot with an average character?
Yes
If moronation on YouTube can, yes absolutely
You're a fricking moron. You're playing a game about being a dungeon robber and instead you want to turn it into your autistic cottage core simulator
>wasting everyone's time to make number go up
OP is still a gay, and in other news water is wet
Bro do you think you're playing Skyrim lmfao
>Wojak poster
>Wall of greentext
Yes, you are in the wrong, regardless of what's in that post that I didn't read