Am I wasting my time replaying Oblivion when I could be playing Skyrim with 20gb of vanilla-enhancing mods installed?
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Am I wasting my time replaying Oblivion when I could be playing Skyrim with 20gb of vanilla-enhancing mods installed?
Oblivion and Skyrim are fundamentally different games that are enjoyable for totally different reasons. Same with Morrowind and Daggerfall (Arena is never enjoyable).
That's the issue then. Playing each game, different downsides of them slowly begin adding up on the mind until they outweight the fun, resulting in the uninstallation.
If you're enjoying Oblivion then keep playing Oblivion, my dude. When you want to go play Skyrim, it and all its mods will still be there. Personally I recommend Enai's gameplay mods, they're fantastic.
How are they fundementally different? They all feel like slightly varying iterations on the same fundemental game design to me.
Daggerfall is dungeon crawling and autismmaxxing
Morrrowind is immersiongay masturbation and lore autism
Oblivion is a wacky shenanigans simulator with endless layers of AI strangeness (and also some gorgeous landscapes)
Skyrim is power fantasy: the game and inevitably becomes about expanding your infinite arsenal
From similar design principles spring four dramatically different games. There's a reason TESgays all give each other endless shit.
Isn't Morrowind also a power fantasy sim? It just makes it more difficult to become a God, but you eventually do. Likewise, they all place great emphasis on immersion.
I think what everyone argues about is more about how successful each one is at executing their iteration of the strong and addicting Tes formula. Each have their style and own strengths/weaknesses. I think what Tesgays tend to argue about is how successful each one is at being a TES game - I find Tesgays usually enjoy each one though. Kind of like the Bond franchise. They're all fundementally the same.
Daggerfall definitely feels more different to the others though because of it's focus on dungeon crawling and lifesim elements. Morrowind more defined the formula for the series.
I'm probably being autistic in your use of 'fundementally different'.
>skyrim
>enjoyable
I'd rather watch paint dry
play the game with more landscape variety and larger, more diverse cities
and most importantly, no respawn so you can clear out literally any interior and make it your base
Not really. Oblivion has some good content worth doing while, apart from Enderal which is the strictly superior game, mods can make aspects of Skyrim less bad but no amount of modding justifies playing it.
Real shame the story in enderal is fricking trash filled with stupid bullshit of constantly being knocked out or restrained while characters monologue in front of you for over 10 minutes. The guy at the end was especially bad, unskippable dialog while he explains the whole fricking game to you. Its especially bad that the writer is the lead designer himself so their next standalone game has no chance in having a decent story.
Everything else about Enderal was way better though, besides the books and elementalism being so much better then everything else.
I think books should have just been swapped for trainers for like half the price at least. Each of the books for 75-100 were like 1400+ gold with end game quests giving you like 300-500 gold, meaning you have to constantly be shoving loot up your ass for HOURS to shit out at vendors just to get your stats up because you need 35k+ gold.
Also the "secret" skill books that give you cooler skills should have just been integrated into the skill tree and the mystical spells should have a quest centered around getting them, you have to explore fricking everywhere to hope to find them and needing to look them up on a wiki is gay. Same with the classes, they're a cool idea and can do some cool stuff but you have no idea what they do or which you'd want without going onto a wiki.
I don't get why everyone praises Enderal as the second coming of christ. Last I tried it, it was fricking boring and the cities felt even more dead than vanilla Skyrim. The writing was also bland as hell which was why I dropped it. The only thing it had going for it was the scenery.
I thought the dungeons were very well designed with a lot of detail. Some people, especially skyrim fans, like turning their brain off and dungeon diving dungeon after dungeon so I can see why they view it as an 11/10 which is why I'm still excited for their next project even if the story was poorly written with "epic" stuff like rebuilding an airship to go to a sky city which is probably what "wow'ed" so many people.
I just hope the next game has better gameplay to have fun with their nice dungeon design.
Skyrim's main problem is that main quest and most of the side quests suck, no amount of mods will fix that
We had this thread just yesterday. Ok, so yet again.
Morrowind>Oblivion>Skyrim
Oblivion has the better Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild quest lines
It's amazing just how aesthetically pleasing Oblivion is compared to Skyrim despite being the older release with no dozen HD remasters.
I found Skyrim to be a lot more pleasing to look at. Oblivion had its moments but most of the time it looked awkward and ugly, and I often got uncanny valley feelings when I saw some realistic forest close up with a hideous looking mountain and billboard trees not far off in the distance.
Oh yeah, and Oblivion's horrible bloom once turned off made the lighting extremely flat and unappealing but it was either that or blinding myself any time a light source was on screen.
Oblivion is also really charming to explore
I have never found Skyrim that interesting to explore
What? How the frick is Oblivion fun to explore and Skyrim isn't?
But there are 0 mods that enhance the horrible writing or the "go to dungeon and retrieve item at the end" quests that make up 99% of skyrim.
Oblivion at least has some variety that you'll never find in skyrim