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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >is shit compared to over shmups so he has to call it a 3D shmup even though the gameplay is 2D

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >3D shmup
    A 3D shmup would be something like Space Harrier, Galaxy Force, or Star Fox
    The games you posted have 3D graphics but no 3D gameplay

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Einhänder and it isn’t even a question. Better presentation, better music, better graphics, and more unique gameplay even though radiant silvergun is also pretty unique.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Let's not pretend Radiant Silvergun's graphics and music aren't spectacular either.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I can’t disagree, but Einhänder is platinum to RS’s gold.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >and it isn’t even a question
      That's true, the question doesn't even make sense since it's 2D gameplay, and the game isn't even good but a typical Square graphics wank

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Muh not true three dee!

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit not even close my guy.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >my guy
        Back to twitter, moron.
        Also Silvergun sucks.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    ...R-Type Delta.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >VS
      Better comparison.

      This game is insanely good and plays like god while sounding like heaven. Not into rtype at all but delta oozes game design chops and feels amazing to play

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love how Einhander basically made Irem step the frick up and make R-Type Delta stylish. And of course all of that went away with R-Type Final.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >VS
      Better comparison.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >VS
      Better comparison.

      Are webms not allowed sound on /vr/ or something? Just curious.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        the only board I know of that allows webms with sound is /wsg/

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          that’s so gay

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Einhander

    Best shoot ‘em up I’ve ever played in my life.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Both games are shit. Try a little harder, zoomie.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I feel like you’re the same dip-shit that says the same post on every thread. Go frick yourself, wiener sucker.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      How rent free do Zoomers live in your head that when anyone says an opinion you disagree with all you can do is use a meaningless word. At least provide an argument for why the games are shit.

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ikaruga, b***hes

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unfathomably based. Was just playing conquest mode on this masterpiece about an hour ago. I'm trying to get down the proper chain for 3-1. I know an easier chain for that part, but I'm leaving so many points on the table that it was bugging. My chains through levels 1 and 2 are very solid but 3 and 4 are a b***h

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is the correct answer. Either that or something like Border Down or Chaos Field. But to satisfy OP I'll just say Einhander, didn't get the hype surrounding Silvergun (or Saturn shmups in general) when I actually tried it

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        After the DC's demise, I was pissed every time they announced another shmup rather than different types of games. Only now can I appreciate what gifts Chaos Field, Border Down, and Under Defeat were. Under Defeat is probably my favorite, Border Down is incredible, but tough as nails. Chaos Field's music can carry the game on its own:

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          After playing probably over a dozen shmups on Saturn, Border Down, Chaos Field, and Ikaruga were like a breath of fresh air to me. Finally an actual step up from 16-bit

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          @ :43 Holy shit!

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ikaruga is so fricking hard. I just can't handle it.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I would tell you to “just get good” but then again I took 2 Adderalls just to beat it on normal mode last year.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          I was on Adderall XR too and still couldn't do it. Complete ball-buster of a game. Radiant Silvergun is zen by comparison.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does ikaruga have any DEEP LORE? The ship design is bizarre

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >DEEP LORE?
        The term is "background story".

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    border down unironically

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Vertical Force for the Virtual Boy

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      that’s a good one anon.

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing I hate about Einhander is how only the first level looks cool and the rest is very run of the mill

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You again.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      it has it's moments, fighting a mech while pursuing a giant rocket about to take off is one of the game's highlights (frick the spaceport tho)
      >the rest is very run of the mill
      how so? the only game that looks similar is rtype

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I tried my best to make Einhander gfcore, and I'll be honest, she enjoyed playing it for a while, also enjoyed the music... but eventually she kept losing all the time and I was the one making any advance in the game.
    RSG? forget it lol, that's not gfcore at all, too hard for girls.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      incel website, scram

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    THERE WAS A TIME
    IN THE ERA OF GREAT CHAOS

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      WHEN THE EARTH
      AND THE MOON
      WERE AT WAR WITH EACHOTHER

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        A DAREDEVIL FROM THE MOON PILOTED A BIZZARRE AIRCRAFT

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          IT WAS FEARED
          AND BECAUSE OF ITS SHAPE
          CALLED...

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous
  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every time I think of Einhänder, I think of that one fujoshi artist who drew male Sonic characters gets raped.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm interested.

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    ENTER

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      is this a troll thread??????

      >VS
      Better comparison.

      based
      but this one was NEVER PORTED TO ANYTHING

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        not my problem, it runs perfectly on mednafen

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its either getting or already got a release on PS4.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          not out yet
          but good lookin anon
          i might be picking up a copy
          even though i hate limited releases
          one of my all time favorite shmups

          nebulas ray is forever a deepcut
          which is a shame

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dezaemon 3D

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I still need to play this but from what I've seen it looks like a better Silvergun than Silvergun. Also need to check out Bangai-O and Star Soldier: Vanishing Earth at some point... Really regret playing only Saturn shmups and not more N64 and PS1 shmups

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Einhander had a great soundtrack haven’t seen anyone bring this up yet. Ikaruga only had two or so good songs. Just joining the thread.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Einhander has the best overall sound design of any PS1 shmup. Everything just felt so large, mechanical and cinematic.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        yup the bosses were pretty varied
        it also made me subconsciously hate krauts

        Einhander had a great soundtrack haven’t seen anyone bring this up yet. Ikaruga only had two or so good songs. Just joining the thread.

        so good they still include it in some recent FF/KH titles

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >gigafishwiener G Darius chad power drills into the chat

      ?t=34

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like SoR3 and by that I mean it sounds shit

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >SoR3
          I've seen Anons starting to say SoR3 has the best OST in the series. Dunno if it's just pure contrarianism because everyone always agreed that SoR3 has the worst music in the series BY FAR
          SoR2's OST is god tier then you get fricking SoR3. I'd rather play SoR1 even if it feels almost a gen older

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    To pic related

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Step aside for the 32 bit goat. https://youtu.be/QSShngXBSIs

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thunder Force IV is better imo

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is the correct answer. Radiant Silvergun is second. I’d say Border Down is third. Then Einhander which is also great. I couldn’t really get into Ikaruga, but haven’t tried all that much. Layer Section 2 is ok but not as good as the first one.

      Star Soldier: Vanishing Earth on the N64 is not in the same league as any of these games. That said, I always see it get shit on hard when its actually decent. Like its easy and relatively simple but theres nothing wrong with it.

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Border down

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    is this a troll thread??????

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      3d?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is overdesigned slop

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        GET GOOD

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Get good games instead of this autistic garbage? Absolutely.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            cave gets all the hate because they're the best

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Silpheed

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blocks your path. The bullet hell sub genre is a gimmick that only appeals to massive autists.

  24. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    My favorite is thunderforce 4. Cool music and the energy sword is a pretty badass power up.

  25. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is a very patrician choice. both raystorm and raycrisis fricking rule. I do wish they had scoring extends like rayforce but getting good is always an option

  26. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    radiant silvergun is so fricking good, I really recommend it

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      4 frame lag on mednafen AND original hardware
      very poor optimization

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        3 frames on real hardware.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          2 too many
          All PSX games have 1-2 frames of delay, saturn was shit for lag management because of clunky 2 cpu architecture

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            It got nothing to do with the dual CPU, it's all input reading microcontrollers fault in how it buffers inputs.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        How's the PC port?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          same as mednafen/x360, 4 frames
          theoretically if you have a REALLY good CPU, you can runahead 1 frame

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        2 too many
        All PSX games have 1-2 frames of delay, saturn was shit for lag management because of clunky 2 cpu architecture

        How they should be calculating lag is: whatever original hardware is should be set to baseline zero, and any other ports should be how many additional frames of lag they have (e.g., +1 frame, +2 frame) That's a more useful metric.
        If the original hardware of any game had input lag, I assume the developers controlled the design and difficulty for it. The reason input lag is so annoying is that muscle memory doesn't work when newer ports have more lag than the original.

  27. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love the overall atmosphere and sound design of this one a lot.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      only ever got to stage 4 with my gf.
      of course I've beaten it playing alone.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      BASED

  28. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nice covers. It's like looking back into another time, when life was better. I think I need to be alone for a bit now...

  29. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >shmup thread
    >all normie youtuber recs aside from a couple actually good games

    vr sucks now
    shameful

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh youtubers
      Excuses and boogeymen.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >everything is bad except cave
      kill all scoringgays, burn them alive

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >kill all scoringgays, burn them alive

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >heh muh cave shooters aren't normie tier
      They are literally the most normie tier scroll shooters. More zoomers have played them than Gradius

  30. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Einhander is easier to get into, Silvergun is more complex takes a bit getting used to but overall way better

  31. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone got tips for me? When I play shmups I lose track of where I am. It's like when the screen starts getting covered with enemies/bullets my eyes kind of glaze over and I don't really know where to look. It's the one thing holding me back with this genre.

  32. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    G Darius is better than both

  33. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    RS is an absolute masterpiece. Einhander is a good PS1 Shmup, but it's not even in the same league as RS. Einhander is a game like Earthbound that has been bolstered by redditors beyond how good the game actually is.

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