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SpaceEngine has features that only a Type III civilization could achieve but its not a game just a Universe Simulator
Praise be upon the SpaceEngine, for it got me laid.
its good but not that good, please elaborate.
Chick likes space, I show her space, type in a bunch of nebulas, she goes whoa. We frick later. Too bad the whole relationship ended in disaster, but yay Space Engine.
Space Engine is amazing but the development is ridiculously slow
The dev is literally one single mad russian in a basement isnt it
let us pray that he doesn't get conscripted
Hasn't been like that in years. They have a dev team
soulless techbro autism, nothing will be improved by using more than the resources that are available sustainably from our own planet
brainlet alert.
you'd need to harness the power of a star to achieve lightspeed travel
nothing will be improved by achieving lightspeed travel
you could travel to any location on Earth within 30 seconds. kinda useful for non NEETs who travel.
no you couldn't, if lightspeed travel is even physically possible it's not going to be usable for transporting humans around earth. stop being autistic and punching large numbers into your calculator while you jerk off, actually think about the logistical implications for human life
you should get laid bro
At that speed you'd get instantly ejected from earth because gravity can't keep you on the ground
>nothing will be improved
Having humans across the galaxy is an improvement. It ensures the continuation of the human race.
have one or two outposts elsewhere as a failsafe, if you're that terrified of death. there's no need for the human population to be more than a few billion, or for the bulk of it to be anywhere besides earth.
where does all that energy go when we're done with it? barring human intervention about as much energy enters the earth as leaves it, natural systems stay in equilibrium. do you have a plan for disposing of all the energy we've captured, imported, and eventually turned into heat?
>there's no need for the human population to be more than a few billion
Who are you to make this claim? Do you have any degrees?
>where does all that energy go when we're done with it? barring human intervention about as much energy enters the earth as leaves it, natural systems stay in equilibrium. do you have a plan for disposing of all the energy we've captured, imported, and eventually turned into heat?
allow me to explain
1. solar power on earth
the energy equlibrium doesn't change by a noticeable amount, simply a lower amount of it is initially radiated back into space
2. beaming solar power down from space with microwaves, likely future option
if we're able to beam a substantial amount of solar power onto the earth from space, we also have the technology to create solar shades to limit how much sunlight reaches earth, if it becomes a problem
excess heat becomes a problem if the earth becomes a 40k tier hive world, which it won't in reality because orbital habitats are possible
oh my fauci that sounds heckin poggers. It's just like my trans positive 40k lore
humanity's destiny is to conquer the stars and find alien women to frick
you're free to stay behind
I don't believe in superstition like destiny. You shouldn't force your religious beliefs on others.
as i said, you're free to stay behind 🙂
ok, stay away from kids.
why are you like this
Why what? Are you mad I'm not a part of your cult?
meds
Humans are a virus that doesn't learn from its mistakes and lives in constant strife and destruction, mentally and physically.
Thinking us being able to reach other planets/galaxies/civilizations and perpetuate this animal behaviour makes me shudder.. humans (at least the ones running the world and the ones supporting these systems) are worse than animals
I believe in Humanity, sure we're a moronic species that long for peace yet wage war like a bunch of autistic child's, yet when we come together we can produce wonder that make stand in awe future generation, to reach the star is our manifest destiny and I'm sure we will at some point
This. The minute we do someone will ram something into earth and we'll all die. The only solace is that by the time it happens we'll all be corpses puppeted by nanomachines anyway.
lightspeed is a bold margin, but torchships will still burn at decimals of C for sure. It's not going to be some huge milestone, but rather a natural development of interstellar travel.
would these torchships be piloted by black trans kweens of color too?
I can leave this gay earth for good if this happens
You can simulate twice as complex things with your pc provided you are willing to see it twice as slow. It's pretty much how movies render their cgi
You can easily get lightspeed travel at less energy at the cost of time
lol you got that from a pretend story. is that how lightsabers work too?
Light speed travel is impossible and will always remain so. Even if you could do it you'd frick up causality.
Nah, you can go to lightspeed with current technology, it would take like 3 months to accelerate to that speed but you'd get there if you had big enough fuel tank, it's just that you'd get obliterated if you even hit a grain of space dust
>it's just that you'd get obliterated if you even hit a grain of space dust
It's even worse than that, random hydrogen atoms floating around would become hard radiation and frick the ship and everyone on board
>you can go to lightspeed with current technology
No lmao. If we could accelerate anything to the speed of light, all we would need to do is collide two objects at the speed of light and the resulting impact would create infinite energy. Our understanding of physics states it's absolutely impossible for matter to travel at that speed.
There's no reason to believe FtL travel is at all possible.
That's moronic; if you're able to control an entire solar systems resources you've effectively ended any resource issues. There's more water in a single asteroid than there is on earth; let alone rare metals.
and what do we need to do with all those resources? why should we have such an excessive demand for them? what are we going to do when our exponential resource consumption has eaten up the entire solar system? or are you suggesting we'd be using the entire solar system's resources "sustainably", in which case why is it not sufficient to use the planet's resources sustainably?
Harnessing sun's energy is free power, that's already beneficial for Earth because we wouldn't have to shit things up with gas or tidal energy.
>in which case why is it not sufficient to use the planet's resources sustainably?
because if the planet goes to shit because out of our control reasons (yellowstone volcano goes boom, big meteor impact, axis tilt, etc.) if we only use (and live) on a single planet, we're fricked. However, if we use (and live) on an entire solar system, we can tank those tragedies
like I said
, have an outpost or two as a failsafe if you like, but the costs of splitting the bulk of human civilisation across multiple planets outweigh the benefits
more is the enemy of enough
enough is limiting yourself
failing to recognise the necessity of limits is for children and Black folk, as
helpfully demonstrates
I never said you shouldn't know limits.
But in the context of our discussion, enough as a limit is moronic.
a happy and fulfilling life, with everything a person actually needs, is possible with far less resource consumption than we already consume. conversely, no one in the western world should have failed to notice that no level of abundance of entertainment, knowledge, or advanced technology is sufficient to make life worth living - and in fact without robust limits being imposed on it it will consistently do the opposite.
the autistic focus on making number big and line go up has had disastrous consequences for civilisation and the people living in it.
Yet it is people from outside the western world who keep reproducing like crazy and create the need for more and more resources.
africa needs to stop exploding, but their lifestyles aren't nearly as destructive as ours. the third world industrialising and consuming the way we do is even more of a threat than their population growth.
I'm no misanthrope, but it is definitely not the case that more human life = better. better human life = better. you could double or triple the population of a writhing third world tumour like delhi or mexico city and add nothing to the world. if we stayed within the limits of our resources, everyone on earth could eat meat every day without endangering the planet. If the earth had a population of 1 billion flourishing people it could provide enough sustainable food, mineral resources, and energy for them to all enjoy a far better quality of life that most do at present, in perpetuity. but hey if you're that set on an extra billion indians throwing poo at each other I guess we can just reduce our home to a husk and metastasise into space to find new places to bleed dry
the third world's development is entirely subsidized by the first world though.
there's two paths to not having the third world consume enormous amounts of resources as they industrialize.
one is TND, which is controversial for obvious reasons.
the other is extreme acceleration of their development, which is controversial as this would destroy their own personal autonomy
Africa's development is entirely subsidised, as is some of the middle east, but beyond that they're mostly doing it themselves (albeit with difficulty). in any case though, we should be encouraging them not to transform themselves into more SUV-driving annual-smartphone-purchasing pseudo-burgers. if someone wants to live in a pre-industrial village and be a subsistence farmer with practically no resource needs whatsoever, we should be doing nothing whatsoever to get in the way of that.
>the other is extreme acceleration of their development,
Kek, how extreme can it be when even fricking cats can use a toilet with less training than a pajeet.
I wouldn't expect a misanthrope like you to understand, but more human life = better.
Also, to live is not enough, nor will it ever be enough. You have enough to live; why aren't you happy?
Clearly, there is more to life than sitting around on our ball of dirt eating bugs.
DSP (chinkshit factorio clone) hits type 2, but it would be very hard to represent type 3 or higher while also being a single character.
>more human life = better
only in case of quality human life which is masterfully demonstrated by current situation
You just don't get it. Have a (You).
>more human life = better.
Frick off, Musk.
>the third world's development is entirely subsidized by the first world though.
>Africa's development is entirely subsidised, as is some of the middle east
Not a single country in the world today is developing save for China, at best a few of them have left abject misery and reached the less-than-enviable status of just plain poor (e.g. Bolivia), but none are actually industrializing. The "developing" world is a myth, very few countries have developed since WW2 and the foreign aid by first world governments you mistakenly think is helping them is actually crucial to keeping them undeveloped.
Autistic primitive ape mentality.
Humanity's potential lies beyond this gay planet.
Instead of funding gay wars we should be funding space programs. Nothing on this planet can be more profitable and expand our species more than space exploration.
>americans suddenly wake up and go apeshit at the thought of not mindlessly consuming as many resources as physically possible
>omg le resources are going to run out!!
Space travel, never look back, never care.
>americans
don't insult me like this, I'm european
It's not about consuming, it about using what we have to get more. That stopped being possible on our planet years ago. Hence why we descended into this sustainability craze.
Your soul is weighed down by gravity.
>m-m-muh sustainability!!!
Shut up
I found a picture of you
>techbro
Kardashev memes have been around since Carl Sagan
Human behavior is economic behavior. The particulars may vary, but competition for limited resources remains a constant. Need as well as greed have followed us to the stars, and the rewards of wealth still await those wise enough to recognize this deep thrumming of our common pulse homosexual.
-CEO Nwabudike Morgan
Soulless israelited brain leftist climate change is just being used to take away your rights and sustainability is an unrealizable pipe dream and actually wasteful of resources that could be used to get us off planet sooner
You are aware that resources on Earth WILL eventually get used up no matter what we do, that and the sun will eventually exploded anyways.
Yeah, but only in western countries right?
Defeatist scum
Yeah me when I use the console to cheat
Ain't that possible due to entropy and shit?
god scifi is fricking gay
homosexual
>you were born before we even became a type i civilization
Feels bad.
Stellaris with gigastructures.
dyson sphere program lets you build up to type II, then grabs all the power output of all players and sums it up, pretending to be a type III
Stellaris, dyson sphere, mass effect (not really but they talk about it a few times). I can't name any others
stellaris I guess, but not really
space empires 4 and 5 let you build ringworlds and dyson spheres, which would be type 2, but you could also have tech that manipulated spacetime, so that would be type 4
Spore lets you aproximate type III without a dyson ball, Dead space is set on the same type of civ
Theres also dyson sphere program, if you want to build it yourself, and stellaris/endless space if you just want to paint the galaxy like in spore but without being a one man army
this game looks promising
Functional inmortality is more feasible than any of these things
Type III is just a bunch of type I and II. Nothing requires as much energy as a star to function, a galaxy power grid is a silly idea. You would need more cables than there is material for making them.
Anything starting type IV takes gorillion years to light up a lightbulb and is thus fantasy bullshit
>Cables
Found the Type 0 mouthbreather.
>You would need more cables than there is material for making them
Anon, wireless energy transfer is what you'd use in such a case.
Still not remotely possible at a galactic scale, anyway
>You would need more cables than there is material for making them.
as moronic as it is, i'd love to see a space game where the setting is a single solar system type 2 civilization that has cables from the star to the furthest reaches of the system. Cables so big that you can have entire nations in it. All because they didn't figure out how to do wireless energy transmission
>type 0 civilization
>poor people steal the copper cables
>type 2 civilization
>there's poor people living in the cables
>Space cable favales thousands of miles long
Holy kino
I feel like it'd be similar to any other sci-fi with shitty space habitation, but that sounds rad.
Anything above type 2 is literally never going to happen. Space is too big and the speed limit too minuscule to "control" anything bigger than your solar system.
>not even Type 1
I've never seen Type VI depicted anywhere outside some very specific comic books by DC.
Could somebody please explain why lightspeed is considered the absolute fastest speed possible instead of the fastest speed that we currently know of?
because of how mass works, the faster you're going, the harder it is to go even faster. the speed of light is the point at which it would take infinite energy to make you go any faster.
its the frame rate of the universe
because ~~*science*~~ has been trying to apply physics to cosmic entities for god knows how long and it obviously doesn't work
Because it was assumed to be true by Eistein in his paper. That's it.
i stopped giving a shit about space stuff since all of it beyond our solar system is completely unobservable except through light
Might as well since we'll never leave our solar system anyway, it'd be more practical to euthanize Earth and start over than try and colonize other stars
everything is unobservable except through light retart
Honestly, same, when I was a teen I was fascinated by this stuff, but once I grew up I realized nothing of it will ever matter to me, won't improve my life in any way, I won't leave Earth in my lifetime and bills won't get paid by thinking about space. These days, I just want a gf and a well paying job.
You never appreciated space in the first place
space is a pysop
It’s just a constant. Think of velocity like a vector. You cannot change its length, you can only rotate it. As you “speed up” through space, you are rotating your constant vector OUT of the time direction to point it further in a spatial direction. Once it is fully in the spatial direction, you can’t make it MORE spatial, you are traveling at the fastest possible rate through space and not through time at all. This is the “speed” c.
We think of velocity as distance / time because we can’t appreciably control our motion through time. You could imagine a civilization falling down a bottomless pit; they might measure lateral speed as a function of “horizontal distance / vertical distance” because they’re covering vertical distance at essentially a constant rate. But everything in the universe has a constant-length 4-vector through spacetime at all points. It’s not like the speed of sound where exceeding it is a practical problem, there doesn’t even theoretically exist a speed faster than light, in the same way there doesn’t exist a direction more northern than straight north.
How come it's not possible to go faster than that? Let's say there was dark matter or some quantum particle going faster than light, would that be possible?
No. Again, the idea of “speed” doesn’t make physical sense faster than c. It’s like asking what is even more north than north, or what’s closer to the center of something than its center. If your entire experience with some concept is “approaching” it by taking small steps closer, you can imagine taking a step beyond that, but really a step “beyond” doesn’t exist, at that point you’re no longer getting any closer. You can’t go faster than c because c is the constant rate of all things through spacetime, forever. It’s not even a speed, really. It acts like one when we measure distance versus time, but it’s more like a slope, a rise/run relationship a unit vector can have with a given set of axes. No matter how much you change a vector’s angle it won’t alter its length. You can rotate it closer and closer to some axis but there is a maximum point, beyond which it is meaningless to “keep rotating closer”
Nothing is known to go faster than a massless particle travelling in the vacuum of space.
Tho the speed of photons is limited by the medium they traverse, the speed of light in water is slower because of interferences.
Space vacuum is the emptiest thing we know of but nothing to suggest we can't get any emptier, the emptier we'd get the faster light could travel.
Woah that means the average Ganker poster's cranium has a negative refrective index and light would instantly traverse them in FTL speed
>the speed of light in water is slower because of interferences
No it isn't. It's just taking a less direct route. The photon never slows down.
The interesting part is that technically you can go faster than light. However there is some complications. Picture the universe as an XYZ axis with the Z axis being time. You are a vector traveling on this axis. When traveling at extreme speeds in the x and y plane the vector in the z plane flattens out. It's not that we are limited to the speed of light rather that the flow of time becomes fricked up, to external observers we'd be going at the speed of light even though from our perspective we'd arrive far faster than the speed of light would allow.
TLDR the speed of light is the fastest physical speed the universe can accommodate, after that point rather than going physically you frick with the flow of time around you.
Once you are traveling at c there is no “time”, from your perspective all of your travel distance is squashed to 0 and as soon as you depart, you arrive
Theoretically, it's not, but it's the fastest we can calculate with our current knowledge in physics.
Light speed itself is proof that faster is possible, as light doesn't travel through the vacuum of space instantly. But at our current level, this is the fastest we can observe and calculate.
If you believe anything above I is possible you are a brainlet.
There are only 3 levels in the Kardashev Scale.
4-6 is fanfic level delusion.
Hard sci-fi is gay. Where's my New Age UFO game with Lyran gf?
I'll never forgive /x/tards for being so wrong about these cuties coming to frick us.
>being so wrong
prove it
why aren't you misanthropic, furgay?
>prove it
The date came and went and nothing happened, as usual.
nothing happened to YOU (as it was supposed to)
Kargaydes is pure moronation tho
Isn't Type I Earth and Type VI Heaven basically?
what are you chinese
factorio with the space mods and when you spend like 3 years building mega base
Stellaris maybe? It's a shit game unfortunately
Would humanity have reached type 1-2 if minorities didn’t exist?
Yes. Women got voting rights and human achievement became baby sitting minorities instead of exploring our solar system
No, minorities are a part that stand out from a bigger issue. Humanity at core is fricked up and still primitive despite how much we suck our own wieners in regards to our achievements.
For thousands of years, we improved our tech in many fields, but from a genetical standpoint our species is barely any different from when we were using pointy sticks to hunt.
> but from a genetical standpoint our species is barely any different from when we were using pointy sticks to hunt.
Yes when a computer on my watch can tell me how far the nearest fart is I truly feel like an African tribe member.
Considering white people (You) are global minorities, then no. Of course, that's not the minority you meant.
You have to go back.
>John Glenn refused to engage in capsule reentry unless a minority mathematician confirmed the calculations that a room full of ethnically homogeneous mathematicians had already done
>mRNA was achieved by a minority
>the greatest achievements in science and technology came from a minority
>minorities achieved higher level math than an ethnically homogeneous group thousands of years before they existed
The only thing an ethnically homogeneous society has been good for, is accumulation and redirection of capital. Diversity of thought and culture is necessary for dissent, discourse, and counsel. Absent of that, this society will inevitably reach critical mass for biological diversity. When this happens, gene lines will begin mutating leading to more and more negative neurodivergence until society inevitably collapses as everyone becomes directly related to another and the stability threshold to avoid genetic mutation degrades until the degradation becomes a runaway effect.
We would be Type 6 by now if blacks and browns didn't exist.
So what would type iii level tech even look like?
Aren't type 2, 3 and 4 the same level of tech just on different timescales?
Epistle 3 ;_;
the game with John Halo
reddit
For 3000 years europeans were eating shit out of mud huts. Don't get uppity about achievements in the last 500 years of human kind's thousands year of history when you are talking about progress.
500?
To be fair they got Germ'd 20 years prior followed by a global depression
not everyone in Europe is a germoid who is in an eternal cycle bring devastation to it,
the development of science in the blood on this continent reaches to very development of Mankind,
you on the other hand are a filthy, stinky pajeet from a slave caste that is bringing shitting "culture" (pun intended) everywhere you go
A tiny Island conquered your entire shithole shit-eating sub-continent and kept it for 200 years. Yes, your piece of shit caste system and cow-fricking culture is inferior, moron.
the average person, including in the west, creates negative value - certainly as far as resource usage goes. that's not because there's anything wrong with people, including average ones, but just that no means of resource usage is more efficient than those resources not needing to be used in the first place. at the moment, utilising most of the world's viable farmland and doing so in unsustainable ways (steadily depleting the soil and relying on rapidly diminishing non-renewable fertilisers to amplify output), we can feed the world well enough to more or less get by, but we're not going to maintain post-green revolution output in the longterm, and meanwhile food demand is only set to go up as poor countries start consuming more like rich ones. if we don't want to eat the bugs (and I certainly don't) the only alternative is for food demand to fall. or, to put another way, you say you want westerners to create more efficient means of resource usage, but that's exactly what eating the bugs is, a western proposal to make food production more efficient instead of just reducing demand.
China's the main one but there's a bit of tepid industrialisation happening all over - when I say developing I don't mean they're going to reach our level, but they're moving up into the middle income trap and consuming more resources accordingly.
>eating ze bugs is the only choice, goyim, forget about this pesky genetic research, muh morals!
shut up israelite
oh maybe don't, the more you ruin your own reputation the more chance that real holocaust finally happens
>China's the main one but there's a bit of tepid industrialisation happening all over - when I say developing I don't mean they're going to reach our level, but they're moving up into the middle income trap and consuming more resources accordingly.
It's a Red Queen's race deal here. Their growth is just enough to more or less keep them at the same level of development as before. It's not they who are development, it's just technological crawl which is slowly improving the baseline in a vegetative manner. These countries are no closer to industrialization than they were decades ago, because such a process requires a collective effort and government coordination, things which are lacking in poorer countries and especially nowadays in the age of neoliberalism.
Take refrigeration technology, for example. Early on, having factories capable of producing refrigerators was a sign of high technology and living standards. As time went on and the technology both improved and became cheaper, it became no longer a sign of high technology and living standards, even if it still, obviously, improved living standards.
I'm not reading through this thread but Stellaris is coming out with a DLC that lets you reach type V
in a truly infinite universe, these people exist
>do you really think other civilizations wont have our same faults?
Do you really think evolution can produce nothing but the exact same type of intelligence with identical moral and incentive structures? What a sad little human you are.
on topic of: are there any games with truly alien aliens? like, really fricking good and unique race which doesn't resembles humans but still manages to be believable from both biological and social standpoints?
no shitty cutesy baits with "large human eyes" and no hivemind/caste system other shit.
terminal00's thought-based lifeforms which traverse noosphere and are in symbiosys with barely intelligent probes who travel both in physical world and noosphere and build enromous biological supercomputers to sustain their knowledge come to mind, but that's barely a game and is kind of shit.
I think reddit might be more your speed
Teraurge
No, because pilot of any kind at those speeds is completely obsolete. Meatbags inside will be probably strapped into acceleration couches in clinical coma or frozen into solid chunks of ice and kept dead for the duration of the travel because going even at 0.1 C straight from the launch will take around 120 years to get to the tau ceti, not accounting for ship-survivable deceleration.
so true sister
evolution isn't real
>he thinks there's anything above the firmament
do science cultists really?
stellaris
>mfw high scientist Fauci and robo Sagan announce mandatory euthanasia for all white people in order to advance civilization to the next type. JUST LIKE THE HECKIN KARDASHEV SCALE!!!!!
One thing that always bothered me about the idea of lightspeed travel is how are you supposed to be dodge if there is unexpected debris? Like if a huge meteor appears in the route you are taking then you are fricked right? And i guess that at that speed even a bullet sized rock could breach the ship no?
That's one of the funny issues along with:
Carrying enough fuel
Building an engine capable of burning for dozens of years non-stop with enough gs
Somehow making meatbags survive the voyage
Not accidentally destroying solar systems you pass through (along with your ship)
More fictional settings say "frick it" and have lightspeed travel take place in some alternate space so you aren't physically in normal space.
In a realistic setting, you'd need a big ol plate of some kind to catch debris. At least there's no drag to worry about.
Not really a big plate but more like a debris shield taking up half of your ship's mass to survive constant nuclear detonations in front of your ship
why do you think bubble shields are so prevalent in scifi?
why do you think pedophilia is so prevalent among scifi writers?
Now that i think about another thing that bothers me is that our whole solar system is moving across the space, so if you travel to a planet, then come back to the same spot there would be nothing there anymore. Also imagine some drunk maniac purposely crashing his ship at speed of light on earth.
There's no universal rest frame, all travel is relative to something.
If you traveled 100 years away, pulled a 180, and traveled 100 years back, you'd still end up back at the solar system because you also started with the same movement as the solar system.
not my fault if you're mentally broken, and can't think of anything else apart from troony and pig that get blown up in some backwater region of Russia, try to focus on the positive things anon they are there amidst the trash
Says the guy that is against space travel.
space is a hindu concept. you actually believe that pajeet nonsense?
>schizo raid time again
Energy consumption is a dumb way to categorize civilization advancement
energy manipulation is the only thing that matters brainlet
this, we need more plus sized trans black kweens to consume more energy and advance our civilization. It's the only way.
>science cultist pedo cries and shits his adult biodegradable plastic diaper whenever his cult is criticized
the real neat thing is that a Type 2 civilization around a single star would still beat pretty much any scifi empire in fiction
Hard Scifi gets absolutely crazy fast, when you start scaling up things
hard scifi gets mogged by soft scifi just from the mere existence of ftl travel
you'd think so, but because soft-scifi writers have no sense of scale and don't work from physics and try to maximize what is possible you end up with hilariously underpowered settings where you have an empire that supposedly controls half the galaxy, but still only has a few trillion inhabitants because they only colonize life-bearing planets and each of them has a few million inhabitants at best
Meanwhile the hard scifi empire has expanded to a few dozen systems around it's homeworld, and keep in touch through lightspeed communication, BUT because it's science-maxxed each of those systems houses multi-trillion people
the soft-scifi empire also probably has some robots but they're humanoid robots that still have to use tools, maybe it even uses slave labor
hard-scifi empire meanwhile is deep into self-replicating tech
soft-scifi empire gathers it's fleet and sails in, in a grand armada because that's what looks cool to the soft-scifi writers
hard-scifi empire instead just redirects 10% of their star's power output in a series of focused beams and annihilates that entire fleet when they "jump" in
>keep in touch through lightspeed communication
If you think you're going to have any kind of coherent empire when a message takes decades to arrive (let alone any return message), you're more clueless than anyone.
star systems around so it'll take a couple of years, maybe a decade or 2
which is not really that big a deal because their lifespan is effectively infinite
>which is not really that big a deal because their lifespan is effectively infinite
Lifespan isn't the issue. I'm saying everything is going to fragment when it takes 20 years for somewhere to a) notice that you're up to something, and b) respond in kind.
things will just move more slowly. having to rely on predictions isn't a problem. like, you're playing baseball, the ball leaves the hand of the pitcher too fast to react to. what you're actually reacting to is the pitcher's body language and then making predictions about where the ball is going to fly based on that.
even earth has had nations or cultures that existed in near-permanent stagnation for thousands of years, only REALLY thrown into turmoil because of generational churn or environmental disasters. if there's no generational churn or environmental threats, there's no problem communicating between parts of the empire where communication takes a century.
although why you would bother to is a question that now occurs. I guess the main reason would be to keep them from shooting things at your planets out of fear that you'll shoot things at their planets first. so you want everyone to share the same culture and values to keep that from happening.
Look at how rapidly culture shifts now that we have instant communication with anyone in the world.
Now combine that with decades of lag time with anyone outside of your system.
Human culture in one system would end up looking damn near alien to that in any other system, simply because they are all effectively being left to develop on their own. The "internal" rate of culture churn outstrips "external" influence by orders of magnitude.
The only exception would be if the empire is some extremely rigid fascist government to ensure a static culture, but even that relies on there not being internal politics schisms or similar frickery.
people living for basically as long as they want will introduce quite a bit of stagnation
also they'll still have a sense of unity, especially compared to any hypothetical other civilizations
also remember, that if in a Type 2 civilization only 0.001% of the people want to keep in contact with the 0.001% people in the other star system who want the same, that's still 200 million people working to keep communications up
sure it won't be a cohesive empire in the sense modern day nations are, but they'll still be culturally and technologically connected to each other
and like I said before, a single star system under hard scifi Type 2 already houses more people than the average galaxy-spanning soft-scifi empire
just set up powerful enough indoctrination systems before you start colonizing. (or, more likely, your second colonization efforts after the first results in an interstellar war)
we aren't even type 1 and are already enslavd by type VI archons
it's all so tiresome...
Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Sephiroth is chilling in Type 5. It's not intellectual though it's just "le multiverse"
>Most Scifi is just science fantasy
>Space travel is just ocean travel, including pirates
>Alien civilizations are just fantasy civilizations from different time periods: "Space Egypt, Space Mongolia, Space Paleolithic"
>Scifi "technology" is just magic with a techno theme
Why are there no hard scifi games? Is it because of brainlets?
because of israelite demonspawn who need you shackled to a prison planet to farm souls
meds
kys israelite
there is no point in trying to please hard scifi fans, because the only thing that makes hard scifi fans happy is complaining
scifi is goyslop to pacify the goyim
>there is no god, only Science™
>see, all the institutions agree with us, therefore we're right
Doesn't help that it's all filled with occultism, despite claiming to be devoid of "superstition"
Christianity is the literal definition of goyslop forced upon the western world to pacify them and make them docile and receptive to israeli tricks
Because hard sci-fi is gay. Might as well read a physics textbook instead.
Reminder brainlets are the reason why the Matrix was changed to have it so people in the matrix are being used "as power batteries" for the machines (wtf lmao) instead of having their brains used as processing power to keep the matrix running.
>Christianity is the literal definition of goyslop forced upon the western world to pacify them and make them docile and receptive to israeli tricks