not the anon but it's not that simple, amd cpus got this problem in their majority, that's why u have to use https://github.com/JamesCJ60/Universal-x86-Tuning-Utility and setup accordingly to your cpu.
t.ryzen5 gay who traded for a lenovo intel i5 and never got that problem again
yep, i have to do this to my cpu otherwise any game made past 2010 will cause to overheat in 5 minutes
I know this feel. If you haven't already try limiting framerate instead using rtss. Losing all turbo can make you cpu bound in some games. My laptop is basically 2.1GHZ max with no turbo enabled.
it does work. what it does is it limits the computing power from 100% to whatever you set it to. obviously it means you can't 'max' it, but you're also saving your laptop from higher temps.
That's one way of doing it, I suppose.
XTU or Throttlestop should give you more control. You might even be able to undervolt your shit to get a better performance to heat profile.
Dumb idea. You literally disable any sort of boosting if you do that which means you'll be CPU limited for some games since you're locked at base clock. Just use whatever software your machine is bundled with to adjust the TDP or whatever other settings are available to manage overheating. Using GHelper I set max temp to 85 and power from 30-80w depending on the game. Also allows you to set boost mode in there which I have set on efficient aggressive for CPU heavy games or efficient enabled for lighter games, and disabled entirely in silent mode.
I used to be, same laptop too, now I used a Switch and Steam Deck for everything, I don't play powerful games. My gaming laptop is now just my laptop, I am typing on it now. When I game on handheld I have my laptop play video's or podcasts in the background... I think I invented laptop NTR.
I've had a handful of gaming capable laptops since 2011. Just got a used Acer Nitro with an older i5 + GTX 1050ti. Does surprisingly well in most games, even at real 1080p / 60fps.
Fellow Legion owner here. I hope you didn't make the same mistake I did and didn't change any part of your thermal interface. Its thermal paste is supposed to be dry because it liquifies under high temperatures. Source: pic related and https://4pda.to/forum/index.php?showtopic=1023646&st=12200#entry112078501. If you want to change it anyway, use Honeywell PTM7950, some people on that forum believe that it's the very thermal paste. >inb4: I don't speak your language
Press RMB then "translate to English"
nah, I did the usual undervolting stuff and that's it
it doesn't throttle when it hits 75, sometimes 80 degrees so I don't even bother with temp anymore
Only bad thing so far is that the speakers is not very good, I think the prob is the placement. I have a surface book 2 with the speakers on the sides of the top screen as it is designed to be detachable which sounds much better
Only reason I have a laptop is so I can play in bed because I'm on my feet 12 hours a day at work so the last thing I want to do when I get home is sit at a desk or a couch.
I have this same piece of shit laptop
I hate this so much because temperature goes to 90c on any game and fan sound like a jet engine
Never ever ever buy gaming laptop, this shit is a meme, also the build quality is dogshit
I have one for when I travel or stay with my family.
It’s a couple of years old with a 3070. it’s really fricking meh. I guess you either splash the cash for a 3-4K top of the line one or you have to live with really lousy performance. But I could never justify that money for one or two years of good performance.
>3070 >lousy performance
what the frick am I reading...
either you are running the thing with the "battery saving mode", accidentally play your shit with the iGPU instead of the Nvidia card, or you are some elitist 144fps / 2-4K gay.
My 1050ti can do just fine 1080p / 60fps with modest settings in most games, even without FSR and such.
It's not the same thing as the desktop GPU with the same name. It's gonna be roughly equivalent to a desktop 2070 Super. Yes, that card will give you "meh" performance if the laptop has a 1440p screen or if you enable any sort of ray tracing.
a desktop 1060 is still plenty enough to play any game, and it does not even support DLSS.
>enabling Gay tracing
your mistake #1
>playing at 1440p on a fricking laptop
second mistake of yours.
even 900p looks more than passable on a 15-17".
Well that's entirely down to your subjective expectation isn't it? There is clearly and undeniably a difference between 1440p and 1080p on a 17 inch screen, whether or not the latter is adequate for you is down to personal preference. Some people would be happy at 360p, does that mean I can argue that a game runs well if it only runs well at that resolution?
And there are plenty of non-raytracing games that are graphically demanding. Red Dead Redemption 2 would net you around 50fps at ultra settings on a 3070 mobile. Is that not meh performance for a 6 year old game?
>ultra settings
Yup, a LITERAL idiot confirmed.
Literally no game this day and age requires Ultra, and only tanks your performance.
The RDR2's console original versions ran most settings at Low to VERY Low settings.
Plus if all you play is generic triple-A slop, you deserve what you got.
It's not the same thing as the desktop GPU with the same name. It's gonna be roughly equivalent to a desktop 2070 Super. Yes, that card will give you "meh" performance if the laptop has a 1440p screen or if you enable any sort of ray tracing.
just get a key that you rarely use (I chose the 4 key on the top row, I use the numpad for numbers anyway) and swap the keycap and/or the plastic/rubber underneath.
I fricked up my S key and snapped the little plastic clip underneath, now it works perfectly fine.
cooling pads do nothing. its being on a flat surface, improving airflow, that helps
Yeah, I know that cooling pads do almost nothing, my question was: do aluminum or any other high heat conductivity material cooling pads actually work, or it's the same garbage?
I've got a Katana 15 B13VEK and for whatever fricking reason I can only adjust the core and memory clocks, but I want to adjust the power limit. Why is it greyed out and how do I fix it?
If you're asking if there's a way you can "safely" modify the fricking bios to increase the hard locked power limit on your components while knowing precisely frick all about what you're doing then the answer is quite obviously a resounding no.
protip for my fellow laptop gamers.
use quickCPU and set the CPU speed to something like 3/5 (kek) of your max
it will literally never overheat and you won't miss out on anything, will be able to play whatever you want.
I've got one
it's fun and handles most games I want to play anyway
nice to just sit on the beanbag/couch and play a vn comfortably
have to use headphones though because the thing sounds like it's gonna take off if I play something like Helldivers 2
it's better than my Steam Deck because I don't have to frick around with linux homosexualry to make any game I own work
which kinda sucks because I really wanted the deck to be good
but linux is a piece of shit so what can you do?
gaming laptops will ALWAYS have an overheating issue but you can try to mitigate that with a cooling pad and a fresh application of thermal paste. As for lifespan, it mainly depends on how often you use and/or clean it, and what brand it is (seems lenovo is the go-to for longevity nowadays but I'm not certain on that)
not him but yeah. None. Even phones generate heat while gaming to the point of it being unconfortable. It's not something that has been solved. Steam Deck also overheats. Shit sometimes the switch does too for shit optimized games for it.
Phones I get since most don't have active cooling, but there's no reason a gaming laptop couldn't have a balanced hardware cooling assembly combination.
How weird.
What is the actual point of laptop gaming?
The mobility, mostly.
Being able to game in the bathroom, the living room, your parents house, your buddy's place when house sitting, etc, is really, really cool.
If that's not a consideration, you might as well have a desktop.
There was one
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assuming they're the same brand and specs and you give equal attention to maintenance and cleaning, I'd say you can get an extra year or two out of a desktop compared to a laptop, but this is also assuming you don't do any part upgrades (obviously desktops are the superior choice for this and you can get a desktop to last you way longer than a laptop on that basis)
there's no such thing as balanced hardware cooling. It's just a fan and heatsinks. Anon take a step back and remember the heating issues the PS5 had. I mean if even that thing which is so much more spacious and literally half of it a heat sink has problems with heat then every laptop will struggle just as much. Especially since it's not a real graphics card. If you have an old one just screw it open and see how it looks inside and you'll never gonna buy one ever again
how much longer would a gaming desktop last over a gaming laptop assuming the usage is the same?
assuming they're the same brand and specs and you give equal attention to maintenance and cleaning, I'd say you can get an extra year or two out of a desktop compared to a laptop, but this is also assuming you don't do any part upgrades (obviously desktops are the superior choice for this and you can get a desktop to last you way longer than a laptop on that basis)
Don't fall for the laptop meme
Here is the garbage you'll have to deal with:
- moronic LOUD FANS
- Dogshit battery when gaming
- cannot be upgraded in any meaningful way, meaning in a few years you'll have to buy another overpriced turd
- if something breaks or your CPU/GPU dies, there's nothing you can do to fix it
- Laptop GPU are not as powerful as their desktop counterpart, a """"""""laptop"""""""" 3080 is only as powerful as a desktop 3060/2070 super, a 3070 laptop is equal to a fricking 1080
- overheating and thermal throttling
>moronic LOUD FANS
Clean your fans and cooling system every year you homosexual, if you live an a place that's prone to dust accumulation than bump that number up to twice or even three times a year. >Dogshit battery when gaming
Laptop batteries are become dogshit whenever you do anything that's taxing on the CPU/GPU,
just look at how long the battery lasts when browsing the internet. >cannot be upgraded in any meaningful way, meaning in a few years you'll have to buy another overpriced turd
Considering that games are becoming more and more complex the same can be said for GPUs eventually. We won't talk about consoles because this is a PC thread. >if something breaks or your CPU/GPU dies, there's nothing you can do to fix it
That's one of the few caveats that laptops have. It's also why insurance, if the store you're buying the latop from offers it, is wise investment.
> Laptop GPU are not as powerful as their desktop counterpart
That's one of the trade-offs that you kind of have to accept with laptops. This is also why you should pay attention to the amount of integrated RAM a GPU has when buying a laptop. >overheating and thermal throttling
See the first response.
>let me whip out my gaming laptop at the frickin bar, everyone will clap.
>let me whip out my gaming laptop at the frickin bar, everyone will clap.
That sounds like more of a "you" problem than a "him" problem, why the frick are you pulling out a gaming laptop at a bar in the first place? Pull it out at a coffee shop or some shit like that.
>amount of integrated RAM a GPU
And the TDP.
There are models out there with TDP limits that cripple the performance of the part hardcore.
As for the bar thing, one funny piece of information is that my manager (in partnership with his buddies) does actually own a bar.
The last company party was on his bar, and they asked me to take my Quest 2 because Beat Saber is so fricking fun.
That's not directly related to laptops, but it is a fun mobile technology related anecdote I guess.
Those are the kind of guys that would 100% agree with taking our gaming laptops there for an impromptu LAN party, were our schedules to ever match.
I'm not pulling it out in public period because I'm not autistic and can go 10 mins without constant fricking stimulation. that's why I built a desktop
>- moronic LOUD FANS
use headphones, literally not a problem >- Dogshit battery when gaming
plug it in then >- cannot be upgraded in any meaningful way, meaning in a few years you'll have to buy another overpriced turd
SSD and RAM can be easily replaced, and a good enough technician can easily replace the CPU. GPU is the only component you're stuck with unless you get an external one. >- if something breaks or your CPU/GPU dies, there's nothing you can do to fix it
There is a technician in my city who does exactly this, you can't upgrade it yourself like legos sure. >- Laptop GPU are not as powerful as their desktop counterpart, a """"""""laptop"""""""" 3080 is only as powerful as a desktop 3060/2070 super, a 3070 laptop is equal to a fricking 1080
Only a problem if you don't know what you're buying in which case you shouldn't be spending hundreds of $ on anything. Unless you're rich and have money to waste in which case doesn't matter. >- overheating and thermal throttling
The only real problem you listed, but is only really an issue for CPU-intensive games and can be mitigated somewhat with power limits and undervolting.
I hate how every single gaymer laptop looks
I'm waiting for a laptop to arrive that doesn't exactly look premium, but it looks "normal". As in, nobody's gonna fricking bother with it. It can run RDR2 at 30fps, that's good enough for me.
Got this in 2020 (HP Omen 15). Literally just use it like a PC. Only add a 2TB SSD and there's this settings in the AMD that makes it hot all the time and changing the option makes it cooler significantly.
I kid you not, I only choose this laptop because of its looks. The specs were secondary.
I have a pavilion plus and it honestly looks fricking nicer than any picture I've seen. It's like plastic garbage on internet and then I get it and this shit is sleek.
I have a laptop with 6gb of vram, core i5 13th gen and 16 homiebytes of ram
But I don't use it, I only play on my desktop with an rx 6600, ryzen 5 5600 and 32 nigs or ram + ssd
>bought lappy for $1250 >8GB 3070 w/ i7-11H >undervolted it and sits nicely at 4.20ghz >run everything on high without temps ever going above 80C >able to use 2.25 dlsdr on most titles
god life is cozy
playing through mass effect LE for the first time w/ mods. bummed you cant go above your screens resolution but the game still looks beautiful
>undervolted it and sits nicely at 4.20ghz
Based. The temps on my old gaming laptop went down like 15 - 20C after undervolting the CPU and the performance is just as good
>undervolted it and sits nicely at 4.20ghz
Based. The temps on my old gaming laptop went down like 15 - 20C after undervolting the CPU and the performance is just as good
How do I undervolt without using MSI Afterburner because my vBIOS apparently won't let me adjust power limits through it
buy a monitor. I got a laptop because it was cheaper at the time than buying all of the parts individually. I just use it like a desktop, have a monitor, good keyboard, and mouse hooked up to it. having 2 monitors is awesome
Me but it's really pissing me off, performance has gotten worse. Game won't use full CPU or GPU. I'm pretty sure one of my fans doesn't work anymore. Last time I tried applying thermal paste I couldn't fully get it on there because it was under a heatsink that I couldn't find a way to unscrew.
Got my laptop for an obscene amount if maple bux, but was worth it, plays helldivers at a higher fidelity than PS5 and at 90fps, with every setting maxed except textures and the upscale option.
Just got my bonus though so might replace my ancient desktop. But not nessecary right now so might wait for 5000 series.
It will depend on the specific model and how well you take care of it.
laptops accumulate a lot more wear and tear than an equivalent desktop simply by virtue of being handled directly, moved, picked up and down, etc.
just clean it out every once in a while and you'll be okay
be gentle on the hinges while opening/closing the lid, those are usually what goes first.
I personally don't bother with shutting the lid unless i'm taking the laptop somewhere
Just depends on the manufacturer and how you take care of it. It's not like the old days where your CPU will melt, shit is designed to thermal throttle if it ever reaches maximum temps
Yeah I guess you're right. I've heard stories of USB ports or wifi cards dying because they were too close to heat exhausts, never happened to me personally
at the expense of some CPU performance, if you have an intel CPU then you can use ThrottleStop to undervolt your CPU. It should help with temps and improve some more GPU heavy games
My laptop is over 10 years old, has been reaching 90+ celsius almost every day. Cleaned the fans every 2 years or so, replaced the thermal paste once. With toothpaste. Never gave me any issues.
How good is the Ryzen 7 7840U for light gay mes?
Last modern game I played that was intensive was Lost Judgment. I'm not looking for that kind of stuff.
gayming laptops are a SCAM do NOT trust this man. OP is a fricking FOOL and his head is full of water. you will never use it as a mobile gaming device, dragging around a mouse and always needing to have it plugged in because the battery life if 5 mins will stop that. it will had overheating issues and be obsolete within a year. you will get infinitely more out of a desktop, take it from someone who was using a gayming laptop for the past 7 years, its a fricking scam.
>dragging around a mouse
I always just used the touchpad.
People at work call me crazy for that too, then they go and act all impressed when I'm better at manipulating shit on the screen than they are.
Funnily enough, I do have an USB mouse, only I use it on my Android TV.
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How do I undervolt without using MSI Afterburner because my vBIOS apparently won't let me adjust power limits through it
You don't. Gotta unlock the voltage controls in the vBIOS.
you got scammed, doesn't make gaming laptops a scam
i've been using an acer nitro as my daily driver for the past 3 years, no issue
even bought a second more powerful one last year, which i use to generate ai porn 24/7
for the same price you can build a desktop with better specs, or build one with the same specs for less money, regardless of who makes it, you're making sacrifices to get it in laptop form. if you're not absolutely mega autistic and don't need 24/7 constant stimulation like a fricking zoomer, then having a PC that is slightly easier to bring places will come up so rarely that its not worth it.
>bringing my gaming laptop to work
they're patronizing you as the mentally moronic diversity hire. I have dedicated work PC because I actually do work at my job.
The notebook I use at work is not my own, it's the company's.
And being able to take my gaming machine everywhere is the fricking best.
Taking my gaming laptop and my Quest 2 to parties and gatherings and shit is a killer move. My friends and my coworkers love it.
To be clear, I'm not disputing that a desktop is a better value. It's a better value across time too as you can upgrade individual components instead of throwing the whole thing away, if the mobility has no value for you.
It does for me.
>they're patronizing you as the mentally moronic diversity hire
I see, so it's projection.
Everything makes sense now. At least the thread knows not to listen to your advice now.
you got scammed, doesn't make gaming laptops a scam
i've been using an acer nitro as my daily driver for the past 3 years, no issue
even bought a second more powerful one last year, which i use to generate ai porn 24/7
I've got an ASUS TUF F15 last year when Best Buy was doing its Black Friday sales, I was initially wary of ASUS due to a friend having a 2021 F15 die on him a few months after he bought it. >Model: FX507ZI >Processor: 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H >GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Laptop >RAM: came with 16 GB of DDR4 RAM installed, upgraded it to 32 GBs because 16 GBs is terrible in this day and age. >Storage: 1TB SSD
Despite my fears it hasn't died on me yet, it works well enough right now and considering that I don't do a lot of "heavy" gaming the 4070 will serve me well until I have to upgrade it later. The one thing I KNOW I'll have to do in the near future is upgrade the SSD, having a lone 1TB SSD is iffy.
They aren't a scam if you KNOW what you're getting yourself, one of the few points you're right about is the comparison between laptops and desktops (the latter will almost always be better than the former). >you will never use it as a mobile gaming device
It's more mobile than dragging around a display, keyboard, mouse, the PC itself, and all the necessary cords needed to run a PC. >dragging around a mouse...
That only true if you're only playing games that don't have controller support. >...always needing to have it plugged in because the battery life if 5 mins will stop that.
This is true but that's because of the way the battery works the amount of power it can supply the CPU whilst unplugged. IIRC there are ways to get around this but they run the risk of damaging the battery. >it will had overheating issues
As long as keep the laptop's inner workings clean, keep up on replacing thermal paste, and don't buy a model with a shitty cooling system then you're fine. >obsolete within a year
This is tru to an extent but I just follow the same rule I do for TCGs: when the time to shift/upgrade comes, back up your data and sell your shit to get some scratch for new shit.
I had a gaming laptop and was sick of turning down the graphics settings of every single game I played so the POS didn't overheat. I got a desktop now.
I have a ThinkPad t14s from work with two separate partitions. Ryzen 7840u is a fricking workhouse jesus. Considering I have nothing else to play on at the moment it's pretty cool being able to play certain newer games at high at max resolution 60fps
Anyone got any recommendations for optimizing this particular apu?
The one with the RTX 3070? I'm eyeing that model and the acer nitro 5 with a RTX 3070 ti to replace my recently dead dell g5.
>Gotta unlock the voltage controls in the vBIOS
How do I do that safely? I don't want to accidentally brick my GPU
> I don't want to accidentally brick my GPU
In theory, you shouldn't be able to, since there are checks in place and stuff, but you should go ask the in the techpowerup forum or somewhere like that.
Go watch some nvflash tutorials and talk to some people on the tomshardware and techpowerup forums and such.
I got the RTX 3080 one actually. I'd definitely recommend it. Just make sure to do a quick stress test when you receive it. Acer is sloppy with thermal paste on cpu's sometimes. Ask them to re-do it themselves if the cpu gets into 90's and starts throttling. My first computer had that problem when gaming.
Current one does everything I need so far gaming-wise. GPU also shares the system ram if it needs, so that 4gb memory never stopped me.
That's more like it.
Speccy is weird like that. You want to use CPU-Z + GPU-Z or HWINFO
there's no such thing as balanced hardware cooling. It's just a fan and heatsinks. Anon take a step back and remember the heating issues the ps5 had. I mean if even that thing which is so much more spacious and literally half of it a heat sink has problems with heat then every laptop will struggle just as much. Especially since it's not a real graphics card. If you have an old one just screw it open and see how it looks inside and you'll never gonna buy one ever again
>I mean if even that thing which is so much more spacious and literally half of it a heat sink has problems with heat then every laptop will struggle just as much
Not necessarily, but I get you.
Engineering wise, manufacturers could implement better cooling solutions, but that would increase cost, so I suppose that's the real bottleneck, even if the form factor of the heatsink and fans is nowhere as optimal as a desktop tower cooler for example.
>let me whip out my gaming laptop at the frickin bar, everyone will clap.
I also have a nitro 5. It's been fine for every game I've wanted to play in the past several years EXCEPT Dragon's Dogma 2. That has me seething more than a little, but I've only had it 4 years so it's too early to upgrade
I have a little table like that and it's so good for playing games with a gamepad.
Not so much using the keyboard and touchpad unless it's a turn based game or something, but still.
Great buy.
here's my kbm setup
like you said not enough real estate for FPS but good enough for RTS/turn based gaymes w/ high dpi.
speaking of gamepads i just ordered one - hoping to get it by this weekend.
Not a fan of using kbm with a laptop, but I get that I'm in the minority. >gamepads
I love my Gulikit Kingkong 2. I use it on everything. My phone, my Oculus Quest 2 , my TV, my desktop, my notebook.
I like it so much I own 3.
No it's doable for all games homosexual. I have a setup just like that and I use it for TF2 just fine, probably because I'm not a hardcore sweatbag and don't need pinpoint aim flicks while playing as nothing but sniper
3 months ago
Anonymous
different demographics
if you aren't one tapping heads from across the map in Valorant your "friends" will have some very choice words for you
and its not like i was particularly great at FPS anyways so why bother
can't tell if pajeet or 100% white muttistani
somewhere in the middle
100 % white pajeet
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's not what you said though is it. You said it's no good for FPS which just isn't true. It's no good for a very specific style of competitive FPS play. I took issue with your assumption that everybody plays that way.
No problem. If you see the legion 5 pro version, I would recommend that one as well it falls in line with your price range and it's a more refined version of the 5. However, legion 5 is much cheaper, so that's a huge plus.
I have a legion 5 with a 3060 and it's pretty good except for one thing: the fans are mounted under the heatspreader and you have to remove it entirely every time you want to clan the fans and radiators
I'm looking at a disassembly tutorial and, oof.
I get why they had to do that, that's some pretty good space optimization, but god damn.
How often do you clean it?
A tangential question for the thread, what kind of thermal paste do you guys use when doing maintenance on your laptops? Do you replace thermal pads too?
Ever use that pad like phase change thermal paste, dos it work well?
I cleaned it at the end of last year after 2 years of constant use. For paste I use a random tube of cooler master paste I have lying around from my old desktop
I have one. I got it back in 2020 cuz I needed a computer for work, and the place I was in had very few options. I've been satisfied with it, but this I'm going to get a new high-end one.
Yeah. My parents got me an Acer Nitro for my birthday a year or so ago and it works perfectly. Obviously I'd be better off with a good desktop but you won't hear me complain about it.
I bought a cheap asus tuf from 2020 for 350 eurodollars, it was practically unused. Repasted and dropped tdp, works at sub-80 degree temperatures, it's fine.
Used to be one for the better part of the 2010s. I treat it as an all in one PC that fits inside a backpack so it stays on my desk plugged in. Not like it can play vidya on battery power in the first place
Now that I'm not moving between places anymore I built a desktop instead
Don't waste your money. You will literally get better performance for free by propping up your laptop at the back so it has plenty of airflow underneath. That will give you better performance than one of these obstructive pads.
If you can afford $100-150, get a GT500 or GT600. They are the only cooling pads that work.
>moving to another country either this or next year >got a laptop instead of a desktop so traveling with it isn't cancer >runs any game but performs poorly on high end games >can't play vr
honestly I'm regretting this and wondering if I should've just gone for a desktop and deal with the baggage cancer
Yeah, I bought one as a desktop replacement but I haven't fully replaced my desktop with it, for reasons because I can actually eat over my dying desktop's keyboard, drink, use it to watch TV/movies, etc. Its not something I just stay on for a few hours to shitpost/game and leave, I'm literally on it all the time whenever I'm not at work, with friends, etc.
Eventually I figure I'll need to switch over to the laptop once the HDD on this desktop fully dies, I already use the laptop for more resource-extensive tasks, like actually playing games. Would laptopchads here recommend I buy a docking station for the time when I need to do this eventually? I don't wanna change my habits just because I change machine.
hell yea laptops are the best
5 years old machine and can run literally everything
moved my setup into my bed recently when I had a bad fever, it was pretty comfy
It won't overheat, it's impossible by design, unless you live in a sauna. The CPU will throttle long before it reaches its thermal limit. The only concern is that this will rape your performance in the ass.
Most laptops have options for adjusting power limits and TDP. On an Asus laptop you would do this in Armory Crate in manual mode. You should always do this, the stock turbo option is nearly always overkill and delivers unnecessary amounts of power and heat to the CPU for no gain. Most games will use 30-50% of modern CPUs at most, you don't need 80 watts of power for that.
I've been using throttlestop with these settings on my acer nitro
I have no idea what I'm doing but saw someone doing it and it's been helping with the temperature
I'm a fan. Started with desktops then moved over to only Laptops over time. I just like being able to take em anywhere. Ever since I figured out you just lift the fricking things an inch off the ground I never had overheating issues ever again.
I have an ASUS TUF A17 from a couple years back, with some Ryzen 7 and a 3060. I got it only because I had to move a bunch of times, I normally always prefer desktops.
It's fine, it does its job better than I expected. I can emulate/play anything modern fairly comfortably. That said ASUS put a faulty WiFi/BT card in it and it straight up disappears from the hardware sometimes. The only solution is to disassemble and replace it with a better brand. Also there's no MUX switch and the HDMI port doesn't connect to the proper GPU, the only one that does is USB-C for some reason.
Also I feel like even if a mobile 3060 is supposed to be fairly identical to its desktop variant, I'm getting consistently shittier performance than a friend of mine with a desktop 2060. And my GPU's wattage is higher than stock and is pretty decent so I'm really at a loss. I guess laptops are just shit but I have no alternative for now
I haven't played any of the games that the good sir doing the needful here is playing but >nuGoW, a fricking PS4 game can't even hold consistent 60 FPS
Also I think my model is older than his, I have R7 5800H
>Also I feel like even if a mobile 3060 is supposed to be fairly identical to its desktop variant, I'm getting consistently shittier performance than a friend of mine with a desktop 2060. And my GPU's wattage is higher than stock and is pretty decent so I'm really at a loss. I guess laptops are just shit but I have no alternative for now
Might be similar in architecture but you still could be power limited. If your GPU is maxed out while gaming then you know it's simply an inferior model. If it isn't then you need to check with Afterburner or HWinfo to see what's maxed out.
You're a homosexual if you really think this. Laptop keyboards are already cramped shit without a numpad, now you want to have your entire typing experience completely asymmetrical for the 2% of time you need a numpad? External mechanical numpad master race
>External mechanical numpad master race
not only are external numpads dumb given how you most likely lose another spot for connecting USBs, but at that point why not just buy an external keyboard with said numpad OR, as mentioned earlier, a laptop with a keyboard with a fully integrated numpad?
You're a homosexual if you really think this. Laptop keyboards are already cramped shit without a numpad, now you want to have your entire typing experience completely asymmetrical for the 2% of time you need a numpad? External mechanical numpad master race
nevermind the advantages you get in some games that heavily use said numpad
got the msi alpha 15 with the rx6600m 8gb for 700 dollars, upgrade the ram and get another ssd for 80 dollars, feels good honestly, this laptop is futureproof till 2030-2035
Nah, I tried to get one but they are overpriced to hell and back here in ex Yugoslavia.
Ended up getting a 64 GB Deck instead and a 2tb ssd for 500-ish euros
This thread reminded me of the last time I had a gaming laptop
I bought a decent used laptop with a 1060 for 500 bucks. Hooked up a shitty monitor I already had for a 2 screen setup, shitty mechanical kb, and a cool deskmat, it actually made for a relatively aesthetic poverty battlestation. I used it for a year and it was the best pc I had ever had at the time, it served me well
I ended up taking pics that really made it look like a kino setup, and sold it as a full gaming setup (including the mat, peripherals, an old headset) to some pajeet homosexual for 1500
I then bought an actual pc with a 2070 super and 2 real monitors right before pandemic raped the market
Thanks for the pc indiaBlack person
Yeah, kinda, I have the msi stealth gs65 with a 1070 and a 6 core i7 as my main laptop, it's a nice little thing. Really just light gaming since I use a real desktop for games, but it's great as a general purpose daily driver with a little extra gpu power when I want it
i have a budget nitro with a 3050 in it. thing gets hot as frick even when idling unless i prop the b***h up and let it breath and even then it still like to stay warm doing nothing.
Nitro 5 are the go to for people who really are on a budget, but still wish to play pc games. Unfortunately, despite being a decent budget laptop, it does get very toasty at times. I hear cooling pads may help with that, but I haven't tried one myself.
I bought a Lenovo flex 5 as a Linux machine but it had a dead pixel so I'm going to return it and get something else. Why do the trails in the sky/crossbell games not work on Linux? I just want to replay the good games. Laptop gaming is gay.
Got this in 2020 (HP Omen 15). Literally just use it like a PC. Only add a 2TB SSD and there's this settings in the AMD that makes it hot all the time and changing the option makes it cooler significantly.
There is one thing to do to keep your laptop from overheating and it's CLEANING.
Once per year, open this bad boy up and take off the heat sink and the fans. Then clean the fans FROM THE INSIDE; open the frickers, take the blade off and remove the lint/dust mortar that is stuck on the INSIDE of the air evacuation grid.
I swear, I always find it completely obstructed after 1 year of use.
I get 75 C in games such as Elden Ring after cleaning (vs 90 when it's clogged).
RTX 3070 / ryzen 6800
i'm planning to purchase a laptop soon due to work travel. the thought of it already makes me want to throw up, but i suppose it will find some use.
i think the laptop 4060 will suit my needs fine, but the 4070 is 200 more dollars. is the 4070 worth 200 dollars more?
the screen will be a 1440p 165hz panel. i usually run a desktop 3060 on a 1080p 60hz monitor so i don't really care about fps over 60 but i suppose it would be nice
Laptop 4070 has the same power as a desktop 3060ti, so if you're fine with thar I'd say go for it
Don't go for a 1440p monitor since your GPU will struggle playing some games
im a cum top gamer.
yeah, whatchu want?
yep, i have to do this to my cpu otherwise any game made past 2010 will cause to overheat in 5 minutes
Change your thermal paste you autismo
Do you know how fragile this piece of shit is, everything is so tightly packed
Got it, you're tech illiterate
There's probably a video of a dude opening your exact laptop's model and fiddling with shit.
It's how I put thermal paste and declogged the exhaust heatpipes on my 10 year old MSI Apache - it's worth it anon, you can do it.
>buy one of those industrial grade thermalpads and put it in my laptop
>no longer have any heat issues
it just werks.
not the anon but it's not that simple, amd cpus got this problem in their majority, that's why u have to use https://github.com/JamesCJ60/Universal-x86-Tuning-Utility and setup accordingly to your cpu.
t.ryzen5 gay who traded for a lenovo intel i5 and never got that problem again
Based Nitrochad
Uh does it really work?
what are your specs anon?
I have RTX 3050 i5 11th gen, 16gb Ram
I also have a Jade laptop (Swift X 16).
I know this feel. If you haven't already try limiting framerate instead using rtss. Losing all turbo can make you cpu bound in some games. My laptop is basically 2.1GHZ max with no turbo enabled.
>pic
i like how you can easily tell that both of the people are indian
nope they're from another SEA country
Indonesia or Malaysia if I had to guess
wtf is that
it does work. what it does is it limits the computing power from 100% to whatever you set it to. obviously it means you can't 'max' it, but you're also saving your laptop from higher temps.
That's one way of doing it, I suppose.
XTU or Throttlestop should give you more control. You might even be able to undervolt your shit to get a better performance to heat profile.
Dumb idea. You literally disable any sort of boosting if you do that which means you'll be CPU limited for some games since you're locked at base clock. Just use whatever software your machine is bundled with to adjust the TDP or whatever other settings are available to manage overheating. Using GHelper I set max temp to 85 and power from 30-80w depending on the game. Also allows you to set boost mode in there which I have set on efficient aggressive for CPU heavy games or efficient enabled for lighter games, and disabled entirely in silent mode.
How'd you do that?
That's the advanced settings under the windows power plan configurations I'm pretty sure.
My brother has one of these for 3D graphics.
Even when browsing the internet, it can turn into a jet engine for no reason.
I literally run FFXIV off my laptop for craftbotting otherwise I use it to ERP with a chatbot.
I bought a laptop even though I have a desktop just so I could see what the fuss was about with Linux
Linux is garbage
About 5 years ago, when I had Asus X502C, I installed Lubuntu on it and it almost tripled its performance. But other than that Linux still sucks
filtered
>filtered
There's nothing "hard" about it. I've been using linux on my servers for longer than you've been alive. It's objectively worse for gaming.
yeah but I’ve been thinking of building a pc to basically become a console but keeping my laptop for work and other stuff
probably a moronic idea
I used to be, same laptop too, now I used a Switch and Steam Deck for everything, I don't play powerful games. My gaming laptop is now just my laptop, I am typing on it now. When I game on handheld I have my laptop play video's or podcasts in the background... I think I invented laptop NTR.
I've had a handful of gaming capable laptops since 2011. Just got a used Acer Nitro with an older i5 + GTX 1050ti. Does surprisingly well in most games, even at real 1080p / 60fps.
yeah, I have Legion Pro 5, it's pretty fricking good and runs everything
Fellow Legion owner here. I hope you didn't make the same mistake I did and didn't change any part of your thermal interface. Its thermal paste is supposed to be dry because it liquifies under high temperatures. Source: pic related and https://4pda.to/forum/index.php?showtopic=1023646&st=12200#entry112078501. If you want to change it anyway, use Honeywell PTM7950, some people on that forum believe that it's the very thermal paste.
>inb4: I don't speak your language
Press RMB then "translate to English"
nah, I did the usual undervolting stuff and that's it
it doesn't throttle when it hits 75, sometimes 80 degrees so I don't even bother with temp anymore
Only bad thing so far is that the speakers is not very good, I think the prob is the placement. I have a surface book 2 with the speakers on the sides of the top screen as it is designed to be detachable which sounds much better
Are they down firing speakers, the kind that needs to be on a flat sound-reflective surface to sound even ok?
Based. I have a legion 7 and pretty much love it. It plays pretty much everything I've thrown at it extremely well.
Yeah.
what command is that?
neofetch.
thank you
sup
Only reason I have a laptop is so I can play in bed because I'm on my feet 12 hours a day at work so the last thing I want to do when I get home is sit at a desk or a couch.
I have this same piece of shit laptop
I hate this so much because temperature goes to 90c on any game and fan sound like a jet engine
Never ever ever buy gaming laptop, this shit is a meme, also the build quality is dogshit
I have one for when I travel or stay with my family.
It’s a couple of years old with a 3070. it’s really fricking meh. I guess you either splash the cash for a 3-4K top of the line one or you have to live with really lousy performance. But I could never justify that money for one or two years of good performance.
>3070
>lousy performance
what the frick am I reading...
either you are running the thing with the "battery saving mode", accidentally play your shit with the iGPU instead of the Nvidia card, or you are some elitist 144fps / 2-4K gay.
My 1050ti can do just fine 1080p / 60fps with modest settings in most games, even without FSR and such.
3070 laptop GPU is weaker than a desktop 1080
a desktop 1060 is still plenty enough to play any game, and it does not even support DLSS.
>enabling Gay tracing
your mistake #1
>playing at 1440p on a fricking laptop
second mistake of yours.
even 900p looks more than passable on a 15-17".
Well that's entirely down to your subjective expectation isn't it? There is clearly and undeniably a difference between 1440p and 1080p on a 17 inch screen, whether or not the latter is adequate for you is down to personal preference. Some people would be happy at 360p, does that mean I can argue that a game runs well if it only runs well at that resolution?
And there are plenty of non-raytracing games that are graphically demanding. Red Dead Redemption 2 would net you around 50fps at ultra settings on a 3070 mobile. Is that not meh performance for a 6 year old game?
>ultra settings
Yup, a LITERAL idiot confirmed.
Literally no game this day and age requires Ultra, and only tanks your performance.
The RDR2's console original versions ran most settings at Low to VERY Low settings.
Plus if all you play is generic triple-A slop, you deserve what you got.
It's not the same thing as the desktop GPU with the same name. It's gonna be roughly equivalent to a desktop 2070 Super. Yes, that card will give you "meh" performance if the laptop has a 1440p screen or if you enable any sort of ray tracing.
My y key is fricking up and pressing it sometimes registers and sometimes not. What do?
buy an actual keyboard obviously
even the good mechanical ones will cost less than a potential repair
just get a key that you rarely use (I chose the 4 key on the top row, I use the numpad for numbers anyway) and swap the keycap and/or the plastic/rubber underneath.
I fricked up my S key and snapped the little plastic clip underneath, now it works perfectly fine.
Yeah my laptap was pretty cool until after 3 years it slowed down to unusable levels
YEP
Anons, is there any difference between aluminum and any other material cooling pad?
It just werks
Mine exploded after 4 years.
I use a sealed box of floppy disks.
Yeah, I know that cooling pads do almost nothing, my question was: do aluminum or any other high heat conductivity material cooling pads actually work, or it's the same garbage?
cooling pads do nothing. its being on a flat surface, improving airflow, that helps
Is this a gamer cooktop?
No, you ignorant frick, it's a gamer meat dryer
I've got a Katana 15 B13VEK and for whatever fricking reason I can only adjust the core and memory clocks, but I want to adjust the power limit. Why is it greyed out and how do I fix it?
It's probably locked in the vBIOS.
Locked as in no way I can safely unlock it? What alternative do I have to change the power consumption and lower temps?
You could try and find a compatible unlocked vbios, or dump the vbios on your own and edit it.
I said 'safely'
If you're asking if there's a way you can "safely" modify the fricking bios to increase the hard locked power limit on your components while knowing precisely frick all about what you're doing then the answer is quite obviously a resounding no.
protip for my fellow laptop gamers.
use quickCPU and set the CPU speed to something like 3/5 (kek) of your max
it will literally never overheat and you won't miss out on anything, will be able to play whatever you want.
I've got one
it's fun and handles most games I want to play anyway
nice to just sit on the beanbag/couch and play a vn comfortably
have to use headphones though because the thing sounds like it's gonna take off if I play something like Helldivers 2
it's better than my Steam Deck because I don't have to frick around with linux homosexualry to make any game I own work
which kinda sucks because I really wanted the deck to be good
but linux is a piece of shit so what can you do?
how good are gaming laptops these days?
do they overheat fast?
do they crap out in a short timeframe?
gaming laptops will ALWAYS have an overheating issue but you can try to mitigate that with a cooling pad and a fresh application of thermal paste. As for lifespan, it mainly depends on how often you use and/or clean it, and what brand it is (seems lenovo is the go-to for longevity nowadays but I'm not certain on that)
>gaming laptops will ALWAYS have an overheating issue
Really? There are zero gaming laptops with sufficient cooling for their hardware?
Not even one?
not him but yeah. None. Even phones generate heat while gaming to the point of it being unconfortable. It's not something that has been solved. Steam Deck also overheats. Shit sometimes the switch does too for shit optimized games for it.
Phones I get since most don't have active cooling, but there's no reason a gaming laptop couldn't have a balanced hardware cooling assembly combination.
How weird.
The mobility, mostly.
Being able to game in the bathroom, the living room, your parents house, your buddy's place when house sitting, etc, is really, really cool.
If that's not a consideration, you might as well have a desktop.
I remember that beast.
A literal mobile desktop.
there's no such thing as balanced hardware cooling. It's just a fan and heatsinks. Anon take a step back and remember the heating issues the PS5 had. I mean if even that thing which is so much more spacious and literally half of it a heat sink has problems with heat then every laptop will struggle just as much. Especially since it's not a real graphics card. If you have an old one just screw it open and see how it looks inside and you'll never gonna buy one ever again
There was one
assuming they're the same brand and specs and you give equal attention to maintenance and cleaning, I'd say you can get an extra year or two out of a desktop compared to a laptop, but this is also assuming you don't do any part upgrades (obviously desktops are the superior choice for this and you can get a desktop to last you way longer than a laptop on that basis)
not the anon asking about the heating issues but is the acer predator still good or is it outdated?
If you consider 1080p@120Hz gaming with no ray tracing to be outdated, then yes
Otherwise it can still confidently handle anything you throw at it
sounds good actually! idc about ray tracing and 1080p is fine for most games
It can handle emulation well to
how much longer would a gaming desktop last over a gaming laptop assuming the usage is the same?
Don't fall for the laptop meme
Here is the garbage you'll have to deal with:
- moronic LOUD FANS
- Dogshit battery when gaming
- cannot be upgraded in any meaningful way, meaning in a few years you'll have to buy another overpriced turd
- if something breaks or your CPU/GPU dies, there's nothing you can do to fix it
- Laptop GPU are not as powerful as their desktop counterpart, a """"""""laptop"""""""" 3080 is only as powerful as a desktop 3060/2070 super, a 3070 laptop is equal to a fricking 1080
- overheating and thermal throttling
>moronic LOUD FANS
Clean your fans and cooling system every year you homosexual, if you live an a place that's prone to dust accumulation than bump that number up to twice or even three times a year.
>Dogshit battery when gaming
Laptop batteries are become dogshit whenever you do anything that's taxing on the CPU/GPU,
just look at how long the battery lasts when browsing the internet.
>cannot be upgraded in any meaningful way, meaning in a few years you'll have to buy another overpriced turd
Considering that games are becoming more and more complex the same can be said for GPUs eventually. We won't talk about consoles because this is a PC thread.
>if something breaks or your CPU/GPU dies, there's nothing you can do to fix it
That's one of the few caveats that laptops have. It's also why insurance, if the store you're buying the latop from offers it, is wise investment.
> Laptop GPU are not as powerful as their desktop counterpart
That's one of the trade-offs that you kind of have to accept with laptops. This is also why you should pay attention to the amount of integrated RAM a GPU has when buying a laptop.
>overheating and thermal throttling
See the first response.
>let me whip out my gaming laptop at the frickin bar, everyone will clap.
That sounds like more of a "you" problem than a "him" problem, why the frick are you pulling out a gaming laptop at a bar in the first place? Pull it out at a coffee shop or some shit like that.
>amount of integrated RAM a GPU
And the TDP.
There are models out there with TDP limits that cripple the performance of the part hardcore.
As for the bar thing, one funny piece of information is that my manager (in partnership with his buddies) does actually own a bar.
The last company party was on his bar, and they asked me to take my Quest 2 because Beat Saber is so fricking fun.
That's not directly related to laptops, but it is a fun mobile technology related anecdote I guess.
Those are the kind of guys that would 100% agree with taking our gaming laptops there for an impromptu LAN party, were our schedules to ever match.
I'm not pulling it out in public period because I'm not autistic and can go 10 mins without constant fricking stimulation. that's why I built a desktop
>- moronic LOUD FANS
use headphones, literally not a problem
>- Dogshit battery when gaming
plug it in then
>- cannot be upgraded in any meaningful way, meaning in a few years you'll have to buy another overpriced turd
SSD and RAM can be easily replaced, and a good enough technician can easily replace the CPU. GPU is the only component you're stuck with unless you get an external one.
>- if something breaks or your CPU/GPU dies, there's nothing you can do to fix it
There is a technician in my city who does exactly this, you can't upgrade it yourself like legos sure.
>- Laptop GPU are not as powerful as their desktop counterpart, a """"""""laptop"""""""" 3080 is only as powerful as a desktop 3060/2070 super, a 3070 laptop is equal to a fricking 1080
Only a problem if you don't know what you're buying in which case you shouldn't be spending hundreds of $ on anything. Unless you're rich and have money to waste in which case doesn't matter.
>- overheating and thermal throttling
The only real problem you listed, but is only really an issue for CPU-intensive games and can be mitigated somewhat with power limits and undervolting.
Used to be. Not falling for it ever again. Same for steam deck. God these people are moronic.
I hate how every single gaymer laptop looks
I'm waiting for a laptop to arrive that doesn't exactly look premium, but it looks "normal". As in, nobody's gonna fricking bother with it. It can run RDR2 at 30fps, that's good enough for me.
I'm
I kid you not, I only choose this laptop because of its looks. The specs were secondary.
I have a pavilion plus and it honestly looks fricking nicer than any picture I've seen. It's like plastic garbage on internet and then I get it and this shit is sleek.
what would be a good deal for a gaming laptop?
I have a laptop with 6gb of vram, core i5 13th gen and 16 homiebytes of ram
But I don't use it, I only play on my desktop with an rx 6600, ryzen 5 5600 and 32 nigs or ram + ssd
What is the actual point of laptop gaming?
i assume for people who travel a lot.
but personally, i like to use a desktop for "heavy" gaming and a work laptop for "light" gaming.
Laptop bros? What are you gaming??
Currently playing Rain World, and Nier Replicant
Risk of Rain 2 and The Finals
Playing mhw at 40fps 🙂
>bought lappy for $1250
>8GB 3070 w/ i7-11H
>undervolted it and sits nicely at 4.20ghz
>run everything on high without temps ever going above 80C
>able to use 2.25 dlsdr on most titles
god life is cozy
playing through mass effect LE for the first time w/ mods. bummed you cant go above your screens resolution but the game still looks beautiful
>undervolted it and sits nicely at 4.20ghz
Based. The temps on my old gaming laptop went down like 15 - 20C after undervolting the CPU and the performance is just as good
How do I undervolt without using MSI Afterburner because my vBIOS apparently won't let me adjust power limits through it
I used Throttlestop to undervolt the CPU
I was playing rimworld and palworld before my laptop died on me.
Balatro
Noita
Elden Ring
Frogcomposband. Truly I'm pushing my graphics card to its limit with this demanding unit of a game
Playing Cyberpunk 2077 in 4K/120FPS rn
pic related is a (stock) photo of my lappy. any other questions?
pic related is a (stock) photo of my nappy. any other questions?
why do you wear diapers
Literally my old Lappy, had with 1660 ti still works but replaced with desktop. Still gaming casul gaems on it that dont make it heat up.
>1660 ti
rich homie over here mine has a 970m.
Thats rough buddy, im on a desktop 4070 now
>muh fan noises
>muh uncomfortable temperatures
if your shit isnt getting throttled for safety reasons, it's not overheating
I bought this 2 year ago and i have to replace fans 2 time
Msi Laptop have good performance but really not worth it
unironically the main problem with laptops today is screen size. makes some games simply unplayable.
buy a monitor. I got a laptop because it was cheaper at the time than buying all of the parts individually. I just use it like a desktop, have a monitor, good keyboard, and mouse hooked up to it. having 2 monitors is awesome
>buy a monitor
I draw the line at mouse and keyboard. Otherwise I just get a desktop pc.
Why are steam decks praised but gaming laptops still aren't?
Me but it's really pissing me off, performance has gotten worse. Game won't use full CPU or GPU. I'm pretty sure one of my fans doesn't work anymore. Last time I tried applying thermal paste I couldn't fully get it on there because it was under a heatsink that I couldn't find a way to unscrew.
>rtx 3050 4gb
how long do I have bros?? Atleast the Weebsona 3 reloaded runs.
Got my laptop for an obscene amount if maple bux, but was worth it, plays helldivers at a higher fidelity than PS5 and at 90fps, with every setting maxed except textures and the upscale option.
Just got my bonus though so might replace my ancient desktop. But not nessecary right now so might wait for 5000 series.
My laptop looks 100% identical, except I think mine might have an i5 (I'm not going to bother to check)
My gaming laptop is relatively new and this thread is scaring me, so you're saying that it's gonna die in a few years?
no, people are dumb. i think after 4-5 years it starts showing some wear and tear, but nothing too terrible.
It will depend on the specific model and how well you take care of it.
laptops accumulate a lot more wear and tear than an equivalent desktop simply by virtue of being handled directly, moved, picked up and down, etc.
just clean it out every once in a while and you'll be okay
be gentle on the hinges while opening/closing the lid, those are usually what goes first.
I personally don't bother with shutting the lid unless i'm taking the laptop somewhere
Just depends on the manufacturer and how you take care of it. It's not like the old days where your CPU will melt, shit is designed to thermal throttle if it ever reaches maximum temps
Kind of.
The GPU and CPU will not melt, but a badly designed laptop could have heat related issues on other components.
Yeah I guess you're right. I've heard stories of USB ports or wifi cards dying because they were too close to heat exhausts, never happened to me personally
at the expense of some CPU performance, if you have an intel CPU then you can use ThrottleStop to undervolt your CPU. It should help with temps and improve some more GPU heavy games
My laptop is over 10 years old, has been reaching 90+ celsius almost every day. Cleaned the fans every 2 years or so, replaced the thermal paste once. With toothpaste. Never gave me any issues.
Buy Clevos if you can, I guess.
(obviously the battery lasts for about 2 seconds, but very surprisingly i'm still on the original power adapter)
I have a steam deck
How good is the Ryzen 7 7840U for light gay mes?
Last modern game I played that was intensive was Lost Judgment. I'm not looking for that kind of stuff.
gayming laptops are a SCAM do NOT trust this man. OP is a fricking FOOL and his head is full of water. you will never use it as a mobile gaming device, dragging around a mouse and always needing to have it plugged in because the battery life if 5 mins will stop that. it will had overheating issues and be obsolete within a year. you will get infinitely more out of a desktop, take it from someone who was using a gayming laptop for the past 7 years, its a fricking scam.
>dragging around a mouse
I always just used the touchpad.
People at work call me crazy for that too, then they go and act all impressed when I'm better at manipulating shit on the screen than they are.
Funnily enough, I do have an USB mouse, only I use it on my Android TV.
You don't. Gotta unlock the voltage controls in the vBIOS.
>Gotta unlock the voltage controls in the vBIOS
How do I do that safely? I don't want to accidentally brick my GPU
for the same price you can build a desktop with better specs, or build one with the same specs for less money, regardless of who makes it, you're making sacrifices to get it in laptop form. if you're not absolutely mega autistic and don't need 24/7 constant stimulation like a fricking zoomer, then having a PC that is slightly easier to bring places will come up so rarely that its not worth it.
>bringing my gaming laptop to work
they're patronizing you as the mentally moronic diversity hire. I have dedicated work PC because I actually do work at my job.
The notebook I use at work is not my own, it's the company's.
And being able to take my gaming machine everywhere is the fricking best.
Taking my gaming laptop and my Quest 2 to parties and gatherings and shit is a killer move. My friends and my coworkers love it.
To be clear, I'm not disputing that a desktop is a better value. It's a better value across time too as you can upgrade individual components instead of throwing the whole thing away, if the mobility has no value for you.
It does for me.
>they're patronizing you as the mentally moronic diversity hire
I see, so it's projection.
Everything makes sense now. At least the thread knows not to listen to your advice now.
>let me whip out my gaming laptop at the frickin bar, everyone will clap.
you got scammed, doesn't make gaming laptops a scam
i've been using an acer nitro as my daily driver for the past 3 years, no issue
even bought a second more powerful one last year, which i use to generate ai porn 24/7
what's the cheapest laptop i could get to generate decent ai art?
I've got an ASUS TUF F15 last year when Best Buy was doing its Black Friday sales, I was initially wary of ASUS due to a friend having a 2021 F15 die on him a few months after he bought it.
>Model: FX507ZI
>Processor: 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H
>GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Laptop
>RAM: came with 16 GB of DDR4 RAM installed, upgraded it to 32 GBs because 16 GBs is terrible in this day and age.
>Storage: 1TB SSD
Despite my fears it hasn't died on me yet, it works well enough right now and considering that I don't do a lot of "heavy" gaming the 4070 will serve me well until I have to upgrade it later. The one thing I KNOW I'll have to do in the near future is upgrade the SSD, having a lone 1TB SSD is iffy.
They aren't a scam if you KNOW what you're getting yourself, one of the few points you're right about is the comparison between laptops and desktops (the latter will almost always be better than the former).
>you will never use it as a mobile gaming device
It's more mobile than dragging around a display, keyboard, mouse, the PC itself, and all the necessary cords needed to run a PC.
>dragging around a mouse...
That only true if you're only playing games that don't have controller support.
>...always needing to have it plugged in because the battery life if 5 mins will stop that.
This is true but that's because of the way the battery works the amount of power it can supply the CPU whilst unplugged. IIRC there are ways to get around this but they run the risk of damaging the battery.
>it will had overheating issues
As long as keep the laptop's inner workings clean, keep up on replacing thermal paste, and don't buy a model with a shitty cooling system then you're fine.
>obsolete within a year
This is tru to an extent but I just follow the same rule I do for TCGs: when the time to shift/upgrade comes, back up your data and sell your shit to get some scratch for new shit.
I had a gaming laptop and was sick of turning down the graphics settings of every single game I played so the POS didn't overheat. I got a desktop now.
I have a ThinkPad t14s from work with two separate partitions. Ryzen 7840u is a fricking workhouse jesus. Considering I have nothing else to play on at the moment it's pretty cool being able to play certain newer games at high at max resolution 60fps
Anyone got any recommendations for optimizing this particular apu?
You don't get shit for using your work laptop for personal stuff? Would dual booting for this just be fine?
Acer predator helios 300 reporting in. I travel all the time for work and pleasure. It's a necessity for me.
The one with the RTX 3070? I'm eyeing that model and the acer nitro 5 with a RTX 3070 ti to replace my recently dead dell g5.
> I don't want to accidentally brick my GPU
In theory, you shouldn't be able to, since there are checks in place and stuff, but you should go ask the in the techpowerup forum or somewhere like that.
Go watch some nvflash tutorials and talk to some people on the tomshardware and techpowerup forums and such.
I got the RTX 3080 one actually. I'd definitely recommend it. Just make sure to do a quick stress test when you receive it. Acer is sloppy with thermal paste on cpu's sometimes. Ask them to re-do it themselves if the cpu gets into 90's and starts throttling. My first computer had that problem when gaming.
Current one does everything I need so far gaming-wise. GPU also shares the system ram if it needs, so that 4gb memory never stopped me.
>RTX 3080
>4gb
What?
How in the hell? The RTX 3070 has 8GB of vram, what the frick.
There's something off anon, could you provide a GPU-Z screenshot?
Hmm, GPU-Z shows as 8GB indeed. Maybe Speccy fricked up somehow.
That's more like it.
Speccy is weird like that. You want to use CPU-Z + GPU-Z or HWINFO
>I mean if even that thing which is so much more spacious and literally half of it a heat sink has problems with heat then every laptop will struggle just as much
Not necessarily, but I get you.
Engineering wise, manufacturers could implement better cooling solutions, but that would increase cost, so I suppose that's the real bottleneck, even if the form factor of the heatsink and fans is nowhere as optimal as a desktop tower cooler for example.
>bar
lol.
I also have a nitro 5. It's been fine for every game I've wanted to play in the past several years EXCEPT Dragon's Dogma 2. That has me seething more than a little, but I've only had it 4 years so it's too early to upgrade
Got a Lenovo legion 5 pro. It's not perfect, but it's pretty badass for a gaming laptop.
Yuh
What model is that?
I have a little table like that and it's so good for playing games with a gamepad.
Not so much using the keyboard and touchpad unless it's a turn based game or something, but still.
Great buy.
here's my kbm setup
like you said not enough real estate for FPS but good enough for RTS/turn based gaymes w/ high dpi.
speaking of gamepads i just ordered one - hoping to get it by this weekend.
ok why am i upside down here?
Not a fan of using kbm with a laptop, but I get that I'm in the minority.
>gamepads
I love my Gulikit Kingkong 2. I use it on everything. My phone, my Oculus Quest 2 , my TV, my desktop, my notebook.
I like it so much I own 3.
I just assumed you were Australian.
>not enough real estate for FPS
There's plenty there unless you're a low-sens arm-aiming flick homosexual who practices with an aim trainer
yeah its doable for single player games ig
alight
No it's doable for all games homosexual. I have a setup just like that and I use it for TF2 just fine, probably because I'm not a hardcore sweatbag and don't need pinpoint aim flicks while playing as nothing but sniper
different demographics
if you aren't one tapping heads from across the map in Valorant your "friends" will have some very choice words for you
and its not like i was particularly great at FPS anyways so why bother
somewhere in the middle
100 % white pajeet
That's not what you said though is it. You said it's no good for FPS which just isn't true. It's no good for a very specific style of competitive FPS play. I took issue with your assumption that everybody plays that way.
what's the best bang for the buck for ~1200$
Lenovo legion 5 but only when they go on sale, so you can save money if possible.
>Lenovo legion 5
thanks beast
No problem. If you see the legion 5 pro version, I would recommend that one as well it falls in line with your price range and it's a more refined version of the 5. However, legion 5 is much cheaper, so that's a huge plus.
Hi
don't post feet
can't tell if pajeet or 100% white muttistani
gaming laptops are truly the master race solution for non-poors
damn you stupid asf cuh
envious poor Black person comment
brown people thread
I mostly just play old emulator games and watch movies on mine
I have a legion 5 with a 3060 and it's pretty good except for one thing: the fans are mounted under the heatspreader and you have to remove it entirely every time you want to clan the fans and radiators
I'm looking at a disassembly tutorial and, oof.
I get why they had to do that, that's some pretty good space optimization, but god damn.
How often do you clean it?
A tangential question for the thread, what kind of thermal paste do you guys use when doing maintenance on your laptops? Do you replace thermal pads too?
Ever use that pad like phase change thermal paste, dos it work well?
I cleaned it at the end of last year after 2 years of constant use. For paste I use a random tube of cooler master paste I have lying around from my old desktop
Oh and I don't replace the thermal pads (or at least haven't felt the need to)
I have one. I got it back in 2020 cuz I needed a computer for work, and the place I was in had very few options. I've been satisfied with it, but this I'm going to get a new high-end one.
Bought this back in 2022. It's okay and gets the job done.
Yeah. My parents got me an Acer Nitro for my birthday a year or so ago and it works perfectly. Obviously I'd be better off with a good desktop but you won't hear me complain about it.
You don't even need a gaming laptop. I beat Elden Ring on a laptop with a ryzen 5 5500u playing on 720p and medium graphics
I bought a cheap asus tuf from 2020 for 350 eurodollars, it was practically unused. Repasted and dropped tdp, works at sub-80 degree temperatures, it's fine.
Yup, I love Crysis!
posted on my chromebook btw
writing this from a lenovo idea pad y580. For gaming I use a GPD Win max 2021 and a GPD win mini with a g1 when at home.
Are gaming laptops good for game dev or should I just spend the money and get a PC
Used to be one for the better part of the 2010s. I treat it as an all in one PC that fits inside a backpack so it stays on my desk plugged in. Not like it can play vidya on battery power in the first place
Now that I'm not moving between places anymore I built a desktop instead
I need my enormous screen. Laptop gaming is just not satisfying.
I have never bought a "gaming chair" and never will!
>putting your laptop on a blanket
bro... the thermals...
Don't waste your money. You will literally get better performance for free by propping up your laptop at the back so it has plenty of airflow underneath. That will give you better performance than one of these obstructive pads.
If you can afford $100-150, get a GT500 or GT600. They are the only cooling pads that work.
>GAYming SLOPtop
No.
>Got the gaming laptop
>Got a La-Z-Boy recliner
Yep it's peak comfy gaming
>moving to another country either this or next year
>got a laptop instead of a desktop so traveling with it isn't cancer
>runs any game but performs poorly on high end games
>can't play vr
honestly I'm regretting this and wondering if I should've just gone for a desktop and deal with the baggage cancer
Yeah, I bought one as a desktop replacement but I haven't fully replaced my desktop with it, for reasons because I can actually eat over my dying desktop's keyboard, drink, use it to watch TV/movies, etc. Its not something I just stay on for a few hours to shitpost/game and leave, I'm literally on it all the time whenever I'm not at work, with friends, etc.
Eventually I figure I'll need to switch over to the laptop once the HDD on this desktop fully dies, I already use the laptop for more resource-extensive tasks, like actually playing games. Would laptopchads here recommend I buy a docking station for the time when I need to do this eventually? I don't wanna change my habits just because I change machine.
hell yea laptops are the best
5 years old machine and can run literally everything
moved my setup into my bed recently when I had a bad fever, it was pretty comfy
Are you black?
Eastern Euro, so yes
At what cpu temperature should I start worrying about overheating?
Probably 95c for most of them, worst case scenario you start dropping frames randomly and blue screening or the machine just turning off by itself
It won't overheat, it's impossible by design, unless you live in a sauna. The CPU will throttle long before it reaches its thermal limit. The only concern is that this will rape your performance in the ass.
Most laptops have options for adjusting power limits and TDP. On an Asus laptop you would do this in Armory Crate in manual mode. You should always do this, the stock turbo option is nearly always overkill and delivers unnecessary amounts of power and heat to the CPU for no gain. Most games will use 30-50% of modern CPUs at most, you don't need 80 watts of power for that.
I'm too lazy to figure out manual settings and just use the middle power option
I've been using throttlestop with these settings on my acer nitro
I have no idea what I'm doing but saw someone doing it and it's been helping with the temperature
Me
Took me way too damn long though to connect my gaming laptop to a 27" monitor and use a different keyboard than the laptop one
>nvida gtx
bro how could you expect it to run the latest tripple a with a mobile gtx
I'm a fan. Started with desktops then moved over to only Laptops over time. I just like being able to take em anywhere. Ever since I figured out you just lift the fricking things an inch off the ground I never had overheating issues ever again.
why are you using laptops now? Just get a mini pc.
>type-c
I swear to god that the LGBT community have gone too far
I have an ASUS TUF A17 from a couple years back, with some Ryzen 7 and a 3060. I got it only because I had to move a bunch of times, I normally always prefer desktops.
It's fine, it does its job better than I expected. I can emulate/play anything modern fairly comfortably. That said ASUS put a faulty WiFi/BT card in it and it straight up disappears from the hardware sometimes. The only solution is to disassemble and replace it with a better brand. Also there's no MUX switch and the HDMI port doesn't connect to the proper GPU, the only one that does is USB-C for some reason.
Also I feel like even if a mobile 3060 is supposed to be fairly identical to its desktop variant, I'm getting consistently shittier performance than a friend of mine with a desktop 2060. And my GPU's wattage is higher than stock and is pretty decent so I'm really at a loss. I guess laptops are just shit but I have no alternative for now
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hello sir the laptop runs very well sir thank you
I haven't played any of the games that the good sir doing the needful here is playing but
>nuGoW, a fricking PS4 game can't even hold consistent 60 FPS
Also I think my model is older than his, I have R7 5800H
>Also I feel like even if a mobile 3060 is supposed to be fairly identical to its desktop variant, I'm getting consistently shittier performance than a friend of mine with a desktop 2060. And my GPU's wattage is higher than stock and is pretty decent so I'm really at a loss. I guess laptops are just shit but I have no alternative for now
Might be similar in architecture but you still could be power limited. If your GPU is maxed out while gaming then you know it's simply an inferior model. If it isn't then you need to check with Afterburner or HWinfo to see what's maxed out.
>buying a laptop without a numpad
heresy
You're a homosexual if you really think this. Laptop keyboards are already cramped shit without a numpad, now you want to have your entire typing experience completely asymmetrical for the 2% of time you need a numpad? External mechanical numpad master race
>External mechanical numpad master race
not only are external numpads dumb given how you most likely lose another spot for connecting USBs, but at that point why not just buy an external keyboard with said numpad OR, as mentioned earlier, a laptop with a keyboard with a fully integrated numpad?
nevermind the advantages you get in some games that heavily use said numpad
laptop gaming is the dumbest idea ever
if you want proper airflow you have to turn the fricking thing upside down lmao
got the msi alpha 15 with the rx6600m 8gb for 700 dollars, upgrade the ram and get another ssd for 80 dollars, feels good honestly, this laptop is futureproof till 2030-2035
>this laptop is futureproof till 2030-2035
I do envy people who don't care about graphics
just turn off memetracing and I can play every game at 60fps honestly
And you think that will be the case for another 6-11 years? You'll be turning DLSS down to ultra performance long before then.
Nah, I tried to get one but they are overpriced to hell and back here in ex Yugoslavia.
Ended up getting a 64 GB Deck instead and a 2tb ssd for 500-ish euros
This thread reminded me of the last time I had a gaming laptop
I bought a decent used laptop with a 1060 for 500 bucks. Hooked up a shitty monitor I already had for a 2 screen setup, shitty mechanical kb, and a cool deskmat, it actually made for a relatively aesthetic poverty battlestation. I used it for a year and it was the best pc I had ever had at the time, it served me well
I ended up taking pics that really made it look like a kino setup, and sold it as a full gaming setup (including the mat, peripherals, an old headset) to some pajeet homosexual for 1500
I then bought an actual pc with a 2070 super and 2 real monitors right before pandemic raped the market
Thanks for the pc indiaBlack person
Got this bad boy and i am not disappointed at all.
Runs everything i need smoothly.
Yeah, kinda, I have the msi stealth gs65 with a 1070 and a 6 core i7 as my main laptop, it's a nice little thing. Really just light gaming since I use a real desktop for games, but it's great as a general purpose daily driver with a little extra gpu power when I want it
i have a budget nitro with a 3050 in it. thing gets hot as frick even when idling unless i prop the b***h up and let it breath and even then it still like to stay warm doing nothing.
Nitro 5 are the go to for people who really are on a budget, but still wish to play pc games. Unfortunately, despite being a decent budget laptop, it does get very toasty at times. I hear cooling pads may help with that, but I haven't tried one myself.
I bought a Lenovo flex 5 as a Linux machine but it had a dead pixel so I'm going to return it and get something else. Why do the trails in the sky/crossbell games not work on Linux? I just want to replay the good games. Laptop gaming is gay.
>has a problem with Linux gaming
>blames it on laptop gaming
Linuxgays are delusional
Great reading comprehension shitskin.
Got this in 2020 (HP Omen 15). Literally just use it like a PC. Only add a 2TB SSD and there's this settings in the AMD that makes it hot all the time and changing the option makes it cooler significantly.
Laptop gaming is comfy gaming
we asked for your laptop, you dont have to post pictures of your MANSION
holy shit, you live like a king
That could be you, anon.
Take the minimalism pill.
it's cute how minimalistic men are.
have a nice day, man!
Cringe weeb. Get a chair.
There is one thing to do to keep your laptop from overheating and it's CLEANING.
Once per year, open this bad boy up and take off the heat sink and the fans. Then clean the fans FROM THE INSIDE; open the frickers, take the blade off and remove the lint/dust mortar that is stuck on the INSIDE of the air evacuation grid.
I swear, I always find it completely obstructed after 1 year of use.
I get 75 C in games such as Elden Ring after cleaning (vs 90 when it's clogged).
RTX 3070 / ryzen 6800
yeah
my stinkpad runs system shock enhanced and thats good enough.
i'm planning to purchase a laptop soon due to work travel. the thought of it already makes me want to throw up, but i suppose it will find some use.
i think the laptop 4060 will suit my needs fine, but the 4070 is 200 more dollars. is the 4070 worth 200 dollars more?
the screen will be a 1440p 165hz panel. i usually run a desktop 3060 on a 1080p 60hz monitor so i don't really care about fps over 60 but i suppose it would be nice
Laptop 4070 has the same power as a desktop 3060ti, so if you're fine with thar I'd say go for it
Don't go for a 1440p monitor since your GPU will struggle playing some games
Those 100+ Hz monitors are literally wasted on laptops, AND they sap way too much power to boot.
you dont always play latest aaa. i am playing dragons dogma at 4k 120 without problem with laptop.
i'd say if you can, go for the 4070. extra performane is always nice
back when i lived in the turd world, i used to play cs 1.6 on one of these bad boys running at 10 to 15 fps