it's disappointing how shallow the theology in 40k is. i understand that the imperial creed is supposed to be vague enough to adapt for whatever planet's society but hardly anyone fleshes out individual cults
Read the Dark Heresy sourcebooks. There's loads of different sects described in there. The Inquisitor skirmish game is also a decent introduction, and the Shria Calpurnia novels are also involved with Imperial theology.
non-religious son of a high anglican C-of-E priest here, AdMech fills the "we really, really, really like our rituals" vibe of high church of catholicism well.
If you were brought up "bells and smells" you may well like them, if you were brought up more charismatic/baptist or just plain low church you may find them silly.
>the labyrinthine religious lore and intricate rituals of the Mechanicus
I'm a technician at a facility that uses tech from the 60s and they mostly just remind me of work.
We have shit that we have to do during trouble calls where we don't really understand why we do it (because everyone who actually understood the system is retired and the company won't replace it), just that when we do the proper steps in the proper order, it works again. We also have a dwindling supply of replacement parts that aren't made anymore.
yeah I have a mate who's my age (born 89/90) who got really into Oldschool Computers in his degree, and he basically graduated directly into working at the local nuclear plant because "oh hey you're under 50 and know COBOL. Here is your 60k salary please do not look at how much other plants are offering we need you so much."
He has to maintain code that could be his father.
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You don't have to go that far back. I'm 40 and used to be a system administrator on at large datacenters back in the early 20k. With the rise of cloud providers nobody <25 really understands hardware anymore, they couldn't replace a power supply or bridge two network devices or configure a RAID if their life depended on it. It's all lost knowledge, all they know is filling up fields of text in the AWS web console with predetermined values to deploy new infra according to "best practices" tables. These values are often nonsensical rituals for them that they learned by rote, they can't explain what they do nor do they want to. Thisused to be common knowledge in the industry but everything got abstracted into blind textual handwaving.
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True you don't have to go back that far, I just happen to have an anecdotal example of the most extreme version, since I think nuclear plants tend to be the sites holding the oldest machines and code that nobody dares touch.
There may be defense stuff that does the same or older, but I'm
a) a britbong and
b) never touched the military
so I have no idea really.
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>You don't have to go that far back. I'm 40 and used to be a system administrator on at large datacenters back in the early 20k. With the rise of cloud providers nobody <25 really understands hardware anymore, they couldn't replace a power supply or bridge two network devices or configure a RAID if their life depended on it.
Scary if this isn't an exaggeration. Don't those kids have phones? If their life depended on it, would they not pull up how?
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*Ehow
Autocorrect, more like Auto-screwup
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Just a personal anecdote here, but search engines are useless to the point of parody now. Even simplistic questions like 'how do I change my battery' get you tons upon tons of ads that bury the answers under commercials.
Same, but it helps that I was brought up behind the scenes of it. Earned my stripes as a boat-boy, learned to swing a thurible properly, etc, before I was old enough to actually decide my path.
Which means while I don't go in for the actual religion, I have a lifelong love of weird intricate rituals. I have been told by pagan roleplayer friends that "I'd make a good ritualist" for my improv high-ritual bullshit in games.
Its a shame there is so little yes, I think its too late for GW to actually do anything, but at least there is the space for one to fill in with a region's own version or just headcannoning it.
>Oi, 'ave ya 'eard da good newz? Geezuz iz in eavn crumpin wit Gork n Mork. Hee'z a mek, and hee'z a painboy. 'Ut most of all, HEE'Z BIG 'N GREEN! >WAAAAGH!
More of these, please, I'm sculpting today and these are hugely inspiring. If you've got any rules shots, or them standing next to Numarines, even better.
I used to be into Chaos when I was younger. These days I like Deathwatch, plus they compliment my brother's orkz. I also enjoy Nids but I don't have models of them or anything.
But I wouldn't consider myself a huge 40k fan. It's too expensive, and I much prefer Battletech. Even then, these days my BT models are getting relegated to being placeholders in my RP campaign.
Formerly yes, I've gotten a bit old for it now and the new shit is gay. I know it's le parody and whatever but it's still more palatable to me and my buddies than all the alternatives which are aggressively gay/antitheist/etc without any shred of tact or irony.
Baptist here. Death Guard are my favorite faction and I have about 1500 points of them painted up but I haven't actually played since 8th - I find it very hard to even want to bother when the actual game itself is so mediocre and the setting doesn't grasp me like it used to. GW's lore changes and "ongoing narrative" certainly haven't helped, but I gotta agree with here; as I've gotten older I've come to appreciate Warhammer Fantasy as a setting more and more as my interest in 40k has waned. I'm not so interested in WHF that I feel the need to paint up a whole army in 28mm scale, but I've been itching to play some Mordheim and perhaps in the future I'll get into Warmaster Revolution.
>Especially the lion just forgiving the fallen with no hesitation, like wtf? Ok, decades worth of lore down the drain. Frick your homebrew chapters.
Strange enough, this is the one I kind of like. Forgiveness is rare in 40k, so it's enjoyable when it happens
Orks would definitely be my second choice if I tried it and thought the Tau weren't very fun. I don't think anyone can ever hate Orks or their players.
Most people that play 40k are over-consumption addicted, prosperity gospel level idolaters who believe that if they just throw a few couple grands more at the shady man selling them their addiction they will be redeemed and join the club of cool people.
Ofcourse, the Imperium are bad guys. The Emporer is evil and what he did to humanity is horrible. But the future generations of the Imperium are ignorant to just how big of a sin the Emporer commited, and they are just trying to survive in a world that is literally out to get them. Quite a few try to live moral lives, but it is also a merciless universe that has long lost forgiveness. And it's better than the only other big human faction, which is Chaos.
I disagree. 40k is an adaptation of Christian themes and is spiritually true, if not literally true.
You can't be a Christian familiar with 40k and look around and not see echoes of chaos in the enemies of Christ.
In a way, by trying to create satirical satanic panic exaggerated bad guys, 40ks writers gave us a pretty good idea what daemonic possession might look like
Catholic, Black Templars and all the Imperium's other big name fanatics. Also Catachans.
This anon gets it. It is kinda weird how many of the things 40k portrays are quite accurate with regards to certain spiritual realities. The corruptive nature of sin being a big one, and the fact that AI really is an abomination that can get hijacked by demons.
>In a way, by trying to create satirical satanic panic exaggerated bad guys >Satanic panic
Do we have any religious grogs here who personally experienced the satanic panic? How did it affect your enjoyment of 40k if it did at all?
My mom kept me from getting involved in D&D because of the panic when I was growing up. >She did good for the wrong reason.
She did not bat an eye at 40K because it was "community building."
They were probably more worried about the ones that were abducting children and torturing them in tunnels under DC while being funded by the CIA and FBI like The Finders. But no, those heckin satanerinos were heckin good boys, wholesome Keanu chungus all the way!
I'd say maybe don't model your protoreddit edgy atheist movement after literal pedophile cults, but let's be real they were likely pedophiles too
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why are you slandering the FBI for the finders shit? their link is being the agency that investigated them.
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Child trafficking is not satanism. And no, christians we're freaking out about Pokemon more than persuing actual crimes.
>spiritually true
Motherfricker the Emperor is not God, and implying as such is idolatry. The Imperium is not the Kingdom of Heaven made real on Earth that the Bible teaches us of. It is the exact opposite of every Christian virtue. The Emperor made a deal with the Devil at the very beginning of the story. He is the Antichrist, an ardent atheist who destroyed the religions that gave humanity a chance at salvation and doomed humanity to be destroyed by literal fricking demons. Goddamn you stupid copium-huffing homosexuals are moronic.
What are you even talking about? Anticosmic satanism is inherently LHP.
I walk this path for almost 20 years, I'm far beyond the point of no return and I'm fine with it. >Suggest you do a Brutal Loyalist legion like Iron Hands or something for balance
I quit tabletop 40k soon after 6e came out. Later I played and GMd WFRP 2e and FFG 40k RPGs a lot, but eventually grew bored of Warhammer.
I believe in my own version of Christianity that is mixed with various pagan beliefs. >Word Bearers
I like the aesthetic of the army with the runes, candles, seals etc and the paint scheme is also nice and simple.
I also love that they truly embrace Chaos and don't do this entire "its just a tool" bullshit black legion does.
You can also field every chaos unit and it fits. >the 4 mono God legions
I collect them as a supplement to my word bearers but I also like their themes and models and personally I can understand why someone would fall to them because the big 4 embody the emotions we feel the strongest when we are lost. >Craftworld Eldar
The faction I emphasize the most with, people once part of a mighty civilization that is now lost and the remaining sane people scattered clinging to what remains of their culture.
Elves are also the embodiment of everything we as humans should strive for >beauty >in tune with nature instead of exploiting it >long lives that bring maturity and wisdom >cultured but aggressive when needed
I could go on.
I also plan to buy 2 Harlequin troupes, vehicles and the HQs because I fear they won't survive the next day of squatting.
If I finished everything else I will consider Dark Angels or SOB
eh, not so much the beliefs. The rituals yes, but that was more out of convenience / conversion.
Oh people are celebrating a fertility festival for spring? Well we dont like the pagan stuff, but it seems a decent thing to celebrate. Lets incorporate it by adding a celebration of Jesus resurrection, just as life returns in spring so to did he return. And thus we have Easter.
Anon, we celebrate the resurrection when we do because it coincides with Passover when Jesus was crucified. It's just the English name that comes from a Saxon festival.
The cult of saints, which is/was fairly common in Europe (at least where I live, in Belgium and France) might have pagan roots. You're not supposed to worship anyone but the Lord, you know? Also bonfires on Saint John's Eve and stuff like that are inherited directly from the pagan festivities that inspired the christian ones.
>That's just heresy
Christianity adopted a lot of pagan beliefs and rituals when it spread to Europe.
It is still heresy by the way, depending on your definition for it and your views on thelogy.
Even though it sort of was, most people do not recognize neoplatonism as pagan.
israeli
Crons and nids
Kek
[...]
It turns out that if you're indoctrinated from an early age and discouraged from developing critical thinking skills that might lead you to demand more evidence than "my feelings and this collection of bronze age scriptures say so", you'll probably stay religious and pass the indoctrination on to your own offspring.
Not how it works, no. I mean it CAN work that way but most of those cases don't really get much about what Jesus taught.
Catholic here. Currently collecting Dark Angels for 30k, I love their aesthetics and lore. No-nonsense guys with the best toys that only care about results is exactly my kind of thing.
[...]
Belief in God is not necessarily belief in magic (though for a lot of people it is effectively the same thing). Besides, there's plenty of arguments for God from a scientific perspective, one of which being that, if energy can neither be created or destroyed, as science would have us believe, would it not also apply to human consciousness, i.e the soul? I believe it does, and reducing our awareness and intelligence down to electrical signals is absurd, for it does nothing to explain how fundamental concepts like language, beauty, truth, etc. came to be or why we think such things important.
>2013
It really beggers belief that just when hating fedoras became the norm, Christians made something so profoundly fricking cringe as a anime waifu 40k crusade power fantasy. That should have killed the tradlarp right out the gate.
This shit is functionally the exact same phenomenon as posing with your katana and trenchcoat. Nothing has ever changed, it's just flame wars between autistic dorks.
It turns out that if you're indoctrinated from an early age and discouraged from developing critical thinking skills that might lead you to demand more evidence than "my feelings and this collection of bronze age scriptures say so", you'll probably stay religious and pass the indoctrination on to your own offspring.
>you need brane 2 know things >therefore the inherently unverifiable is just as valid as things that can be demonstrated through careful study and experimentation
Unlikely doesn't mean impossible, nor does it mean you get to fill in the blanks with "therefore god" unless you don't care about intellectual honesty.
>Lots of Christian tau players
They tend to be Protestant. Probably on account of them having more simple, minimalistic aesthetics compared to the more complicated and ornate aesthetics of the Imperium, and their government is secular compared to the more state-enforced religion of the Imperium.
Christianity is basically a Nurgle cult though. >Centralized around paternalistic figures >Focussed on despair and lack of human agency >Only hope is to be transported to the gods realm after death >Regards all life as equal and worships meekness
all life as equal and worships meekness
Christianity does not regard all life as equal. Humans are very much accorded special privileges that other life forms do not receive.
Meekness is also highly regarded in other religions like Daoism and Buddhism. Both of those also accord special privileges to humans such as being able to awaken or become immortal.
>>Only hope is to be transported to the gods realm after death
This is essentially the same as many schools Buddhism who teach that awakening is only possible for monks and nuns but there is some non-zero chance that one might identify with a buddha or be transported to a buddha realm if one has practised diligently during life, the same as Christians are supposed to accept the Christ as saviour whilst alive.
on despair and lack of human agency
That's 50% Buddhism, but human agency is everything in.
around paternalistic figures
Buddhism and Daoism.
Since you're as right about Nurgle being Buddhism as you are it being Christianity, which is to say you misrepresent some key points, why the hate boner for Christianity?
Because, the topic of this thread is christianity. Although you're right that christianity does not have a monopoly on slave morality which basically is Nurgle worship.
If they are asking if you tried the new blueberry 40k branded cereal it debatably might be. I heard there is a small piece of a space marine at the bottom of each box. Collect them all to get the full mini!!!
There wasn't any porn spam, it was almost all fedora-posting and counter-fedora-posting.
It was a shame, because a bunch of the atheists claimed to play Word Bearers.
And acted like Erebus.
Southern Baptist. About to make the jump from Kill Team to 40k. I was gonna go Dark Angels but with the battleforce boxes coming out now I'm thinking Word Bearers.
Orthodox Christian: I play Black Templars, a mix of various traitor legions, my own homebrew chapter and I own a few ‘nids as well. Just started Necrons
It's quiet funny how meme christians depicting Christ as le Chad just betrays their lack of genuine religiosity. You worship heathen ideals like strength and virility. The entire reason why the Pharisee rejected Jesus is because he WASN'T their promised warlord. He subverted all expectations of what the power of God actually was.
The Antichrist fights against Mystery Babylon so the four chaos gods are likely one force created by whoever created the Emperor so he can escape the universe.
Is it possible to leave the galaxy via the immaterium?
There's very little lore, but the Warp is the emanation of living souls and there's no life in between galaxies, and the Tyranids had never encountered the Warp before, so it seems unlikely.
Buddhist, I play Sisters of Battle and a bunch of Imperial misc. in Kill Team or run them with my Sisters (Naval Breachers, Arbites, Inquisitor + Inquisition squad)
I think Catholics have a slightly more appealing aesthetic to their vestments and their places of worship, but I'm morally incompatible with Christianity.
So at this point jannies have deleted almost every post Ive made ITT and they weren't even off topic. So I don't really see the point in continuing to reply to this thread. Thanks for your tine everyone, it was a good thread but spammers ruined it and jannies can't do their fricking jobs to save their lives.
it's disappointing how shallow the theology in 40k is. i understand that the imperial creed is supposed to be vague enough to adapt for whatever planet's society but hardly anyone fleshes out individual cults
Read the Dark Heresy sourcebooks. There's loads of different sects described in there. The Inquisitor skirmish game is also a decent introduction, and the Shria Calpurnia novels are also involved with Imperial theology.
Funnily enough, AdMech tends to fill that theology niche much better.
non-religious son of a high anglican C-of-E priest here, AdMech fills the "we really, really, really like our rituals" vibe of high church of catholicism well.
If you were brought up "bells and smells" you may well like them, if you were brought up more charismatic/baptist or just plain low church you may find them silly.
I'm an atheist and find the labyrinthine religious lore and intricate rituals of the Mechanicus fun.
>the labyrinthine religious lore and intricate rituals of the Mechanicus
I'm a technician at a facility that uses tech from the 60s and they mostly just remind me of work.
We have shit that we have to do during trouble calls where we don't really understand why we do it (because everyone who actually understood the system is retired and the company won't replace it), just that when we do the proper steps in the proper order, it works again. We also have a dwindling supply of replacement parts that aren't made anymore.
yeah I have a mate who's my age (born 89/90) who got really into Oldschool Computers in his degree, and he basically graduated directly into working at the local nuclear plant because "oh hey you're under 50 and know COBOL. Here is your 60k salary please do not look at how much other plants are offering we need you so much."
He has to maintain code that could be his father.
You don't have to go that far back. I'm 40 and used to be a system administrator on at large datacenters back in the early 20k. With the rise of cloud providers nobody <25 really understands hardware anymore, they couldn't replace a power supply or bridge two network devices or configure a RAID if their life depended on it. It's all lost knowledge, all they know is filling up fields of text in the AWS web console with predetermined values to deploy new infra according to "best practices" tables. These values are often nonsensical rituals for them that they learned by rote, they can't explain what they do nor do they want to. Thisused to be common knowledge in the industry but everything got abstracted into blind textual handwaving.
True you don't have to go back that far, I just happen to have an anecdotal example of the most extreme version, since I think nuclear plants tend to be the sites holding the oldest machines and code that nobody dares touch.
There may be defense stuff that does the same or older, but I'm
a) a britbong and
b) never touched the military
so I have no idea really.
>You don't have to go that far back. I'm 40 and used to be a system administrator on at large datacenters back in the early 20k. With the rise of cloud providers nobody <25 really understands hardware anymore, they couldn't replace a power supply or bridge two network devices or configure a RAID if their life depended on it.
Scary if this isn't an exaggeration. Don't those kids have phones? If their life depended on it, would they not pull up how?
*Ehow
Autocorrect, more like Auto-screwup
Just a personal anecdote here, but search engines are useless to the point of parody now. Even simplistic questions like 'how do I change my battery' get you tons upon tons of ads that bury the answers under commercials.
Same, but it helps that I was brought up behind the scenes of it. Earned my stripes as a boat-boy, learned to swing a thurible properly, etc, before I was old enough to actually decide my path.
Which means while I don't go in for the actual religion, I have a lifelong love of weird intricate rituals. I have been told by pagan roleplayer friends that "I'd make a good ritualist" for my improv high-ritual bullshit in games.
The AdMech are basically made for having their own version of the heresies regarding the trinity and the nature of the Emperor.
>hardly anyone fleshes out individual cults
Its a shame there is so little yes, I think its too late for GW to actually do anything, but at least there is the space for one to fill in with a region's own version or just headcannoning it.
Catholic playing sisters of battle here.
Catholic Black Templar Enthusiast.
Except I can't stand the way that's been goinv.
Christian non-denomination, Orks & Tzeentch.
Never realized how fitting it is...
>Oi, 'ave ya 'eard da good newz? Geezuz iz in eavn crumpin wit Gork n Mork. Hee'z a mek, and hee'z a painboy. 'Ut most of all, HEE'Z BIG 'N GREEN!
>WAAAAGH!
>Da Mekboyz shall 'nherit da earfs.
>Geezuz bilt ma wartrukk
Catholic, Flesh Tearers
FRICK. I mean father Gabriel sorry. Although I'm sure you could see how I made that mistake..
What a horrible thread
Then make it better or frick off.
Protestant/baptist. Haven't played the games much but if I was forced to adopt a faction right away I'd probably pick the Tau.
tg has gone so low that I would consider it to be in the top 50% of threads right now.
Old metal Chaos Marines; protestant, but kinda Catholic leaning theologically these days.
More of these, please, I'm sculpting today and these are hugely inspiring. If you've got any rules shots, or them standing next to Numarines, even better.
Thank you.
I used to be into Chaos when I was younger. These days I like Deathwatch, plus they compliment my brother's orkz. I also enjoy Nids but I don't have models of them or anything.
But I wouldn't consider myself a huge 40k fan. It's too expensive, and I much prefer Battletech. Even then, these days my BT models are getting relegated to being placeholders in my RP campaign.
Christian. Black Templar, Guard, Admech.
Formerly yes, I've gotten a bit old for it now and the new shit is gay. I know it's le parody and whatever but it's still more palatable to me and my buddies than all the alternatives which are aggressively gay/antitheist/etc without any shred of tact or irony.
Warhammer fantasy is cooler than 40k honestly.
t. Traditional catholic
Baptist here. Death Guard are my favorite faction and I have about 1500 points of them painted up but I haven't actually played since 8th - I find it very hard to even want to bother when the actual game itself is so mediocre and the setting doesn't grasp me like it used to. GW's lore changes and "ongoing narrative" certainly haven't helped, but I gotta agree with here; as I've gotten older I've come to appreciate Warhammer Fantasy as a setting more and more as my interest in 40k has waned. I'm not so interested in WHF that I feel the need to paint up a whole army in 28mm scale, but I've been itching to play some Mordheim and perhaps in the future I'll get into Warmaster Revolution.
Backwards compatibility it to 2nd and 3.5 ed, find older players to have a laugh with. Totally different experience.
>Traditional catholic
poseur
Methodist. I like IG but I only kitbash I don't play.
I'm not religious at all.
But I will happily endorse a 4th crusade.
I'm quite religious.
But the fourth crusade is the one I won't endorse.
Catholic Imperial Guard player, specifically Death Korps which fits nicely into the memento mori vibes
I'm Christian and I tried playing Harlequins until the army got dumped
I have no interest in playing space marines or sisters of battle
>Especially the lion just forgiving the fallen with no hesitation, like wtf? Ok, decades worth of lore down the drain. Frick your homebrew chapters.
Strange enough, this is the one I kind of like. Forgiveness is rare in 40k, so it's enjoyable when it happens
Orks would definitely be my second choice if I tried it and thought the Tau weren't very fun. I don't think anyone can ever hate Orks or their players.
Baptist, Tau player.
Orthodox, long time Eldar player
Same but Catholic
Same, also Catholic
When I want christlarp I play Bretonnians
Satanist, Gray Knights.
Hindu, Nurgle
any proper christian would despise the Imperium and everything it stands for. it's mere existence is an insult to the LORD
Most people that play 40k are over-consumption addicted, prosperity gospel level idolaters who believe that if they just throw a few couple grands more at the shady man selling them their addiction they will be redeemed and join the club of cool people.
>Pecuniary reason
Ofcourse, the Imperium are bad guys. The Emporer is evil and what he did to humanity is horrible. But the future generations of the Imperium are ignorant to just how big of a sin the Emporer commited, and they are just trying to survive in a world that is literally out to get them. Quite a few try to live moral lives, but it is also a merciless universe that has long lost forgiveness. And it's better than the only other big human faction, which is Chaos.
I disagree. 40k is an adaptation of Christian themes and is spiritually true, if not literally true.
You can't be a Christian familiar with 40k and look around and not see echoes of chaos in the enemies of Christ.
In a way, by trying to create satirical satanic panic exaggerated bad guys, 40ks writers gave us a pretty good idea what daemonic possession might look like
Catholic, Black Templars and all the Imperium's other big name fanatics. Also Catachans.
This anon gets it. It is kinda weird how many of the things 40k portrays are quite accurate with regards to certain spiritual realities. The corruptive nature of sin being a big one, and the fact that AI really is an abomination that can get hijacked by demons.
>In a way, by trying to create satirical satanic panic exaggerated bad guys
>Satanic panic
Do we have any religious grogs here who personally experienced the satanic panic? How did it affect your enjoyment of 40k if it did at all?
My mom kept me from getting involved in D&D because of the panic when I was growing up.
>She did good for the wrong reason.
She did not bat an eye at 40K because it was "community building."
Maybe I haven't experienced it but I can understand why they panicked. The "Church" of Satan became publicly known during the same time.
Boomers really saw these dorks and though they were acolytes of the devil.
They were probably more worried about the ones that were abducting children and torturing them in tunnels under DC while being funded by the CIA and FBI like The Finders. But no, those heckin satanerinos were heckin good boys, wholesome Keanu chungus all the way!
I'd say maybe don't model your protoreddit edgy atheist movement after literal pedophile cults, but let's be real they were likely pedophiles too
why are you slandering the FBI for the finders shit? their link is being the agency that investigated them.
Child trafficking is not satanism. And no, christians we're freaking out about Pokemon more than persuing actual crimes.
>spiritually true
Motherfricker the Emperor is not God, and implying as such is idolatry. The Imperium is not the Kingdom of Heaven made real on Earth that the Bible teaches us of. It is the exact opposite of every Christian virtue. The Emperor made a deal with the Devil at the very beginning of the story. He is the Antichrist, an ardent atheist who destroyed the religions that gave humanity a chance at salvation and doomed humanity to be destroyed by literal fricking demons. Goddamn you stupid copium-huffing homosexuals are moronic.
Theistic Anticosmic Satanist.
Emperor's Children and Word Bearers.
Dangerous..
Respect.
Please do NOT take the Left hand path.
Suggest you do a Brutal Loyalist legion like Iron Hands or something for balance.
What are you even talking about? Anticosmic satanism is inherently LHP.
I walk this path for almost 20 years, I'm far beyond the point of no return and I'm fine with it.
>Suggest you do a Brutal Loyalist legion like Iron Hands or something for balance
I quit tabletop 40k soon after 6e came out. Later I played and GMd WFRP 2e and FFG 40k RPGs a lot, but eventually grew bored of Warhammer.
I believe in my own version of Christianity that is mixed with various pagan beliefs.
>Word Bearers
I like the aesthetic of the army with the runes, candles, seals etc and the paint scheme is also nice and simple.
I also love that they truly embrace Chaos and don't do this entire "its just a tool" bullshit black legion does.
You can also field every chaos unit and it fits.
>the 4 mono God legions
I collect them as a supplement to my word bearers but I also like their themes and models and personally I can understand why someone would fall to them because the big 4 embody the emotions we feel the strongest when we are lost.
>Craftworld Eldar
The faction I emphasize the most with, people once part of a mighty civilization that is now lost and the remaining sane people scattered clinging to what remains of their culture.
Elves are also the embodiment of everything we as humans should strive for
>beauty
>in tune with nature instead of exploiting it
>long lives that bring maturity and wisdom
>cultured but aggressive when needed
I could go on.
I also plan to buy 2 Harlequin troupes, vehicles and the HQs because I fear they won't survive the next day of squatting.
If I finished everything else I will consider Dark Angels or SOB
>I believe in my own version of Christianity that is mixed with various pagan beliefs.
That's just heresy. Word Bearers is accurate.
>That's just heresy
Christianity adopted a lot of pagan beliefs and rituals when it spread to Europe.
>woooooo boy
eh, not so much the beliefs. The rituals yes, but that was more out of convenience / conversion.
Oh people are celebrating a fertility festival for spring? Well we dont like the pagan stuff, but it seems a decent thing to celebrate. Lets incorporate it by adding a celebration of Jesus resurrection, just as life returns in spring so to did he return. And thus we have Easter.
Anon, we celebrate the resurrection when we do because it coincides with Passover when Jesus was crucified. It's just the English name that comes from a Saxon festival.
Yes, most rest of the world refers to its as Pascha or a variation of Pascha
Easter comes from the PIE root for dawn which is also filtered into the word for east (the direction the sun rises).
>east-aust-eos
Etc.
The cult of saints, which is/was fairly common in Europe (at least where I live, in Belgium and France) might have pagan roots. You're not supposed to worship anyone but the Lord, you know? Also bonfires on Saint John's Eve and stuff like that are inherited directly from the pagan festivities that inspired the christian ones.
It is still heresy by the way, depending on your definition for it and your views on thelogy.
Silence, heretic.
Even though it sort of was, most people do not recognize neoplatonism as pagan.
Kek
Not how it works, no. I mean it CAN work that way but most of those cases don't really get much about what Jesus taught.
israeli
Crons and nids
All my 40k bros are Christian. All my DnD friends are degenerates. My furry friends tend to be both.
Conservative israeli
Cadian Shock Troops
Nondenominational. death guard, orks and nids, with a small bit of BA that haven't been touched in a while, and some black templars.
I believe in both God and 40k. Believing in God is tested less frequently
kek
Catholic here. Currently collecting Dark Angels for 30k, I love their aesthetics and lore. No-nonsense guys with the best toys that only care about results is exactly my kind of thing.
Belief in God is not necessarily belief in magic (though for a lot of people it is effectively the same thing). Besides, there's plenty of arguments for God from a scientific perspective, one of which being that, if energy can neither be created or destroyed, as science would have us believe, would it not also apply to human consciousness, i.e the soul? I believe it does, and reducing our awareness and intelligence down to electrical signals is absurd, for it does nothing to explain how fundamental concepts like language, beauty, truth, etc. came to be or why we think such things important.
>This makes no sense.
Why not? Do the little plastic men I push around on a table somehow need to tie into my religious beliefs?
Open Maltheist/Heretic. I play Chaos, AdMech, GSC, and Imperial Agents (Istvaanian, Xanthite-adjacent Radical).
I acknowledge the Lord and His works. And I am thoroughly disappointed by them.
Protestant, no real denomination.
Orks... I just like them. They are happy and fun to customize even if I kinda suck at it.
Jesuit Catholic.
Adeptus Mechanicus.
christian non denominational guard raven guard nids death guard
Catholic Craftworld Eldar and Custodes fan
Bhuddist, adeptus mechanicus, you should see our temple lol
You can use an organizer to help you keep track of your pills anon so you don't forget.
This is what a caveman would say regarding quantum physics.
I didn't intend to sound smug. I just answered the questions matter of factly.
Off topic but I remember when that gay went to Ganker to shill his diet book because his publicist thought being a meme was good publicity.
>2013
It really beggers belief that just when hating fedoras became the norm, Christians made something so profoundly fricking cringe as a anime waifu 40k crusade power fantasy. That should have killed the tradlarp right out the gate.
This shit is functionally the exact same phenomenon as posing with your katana and trenchcoat. Nothing has ever changed, it's just flame wars between autistic dorks.
It turns out that if you're indoctrinated from an early age and discouraged from developing critical thinking skills that might lead you to demand more evidence than "my feelings and this collection of bronze age scriptures say so", you'll probably stay religious and pass the indoctrination on to your own offspring.
Hey Jannies! Can we please move this to Ganker?
The tg part seems to have run its course.
Again none of this confirms your specific brand of religion. When pushed you homosexuals always just concede to vague deist position.
>religious people actually think this is a good argument
>this homosexual thinks it's not a good argument
Do you sympathize with Donald? I don't think you have to be religious to not buy into his nihilism
>you need brane 2 know things
>therefore the inherently unverifiable is just as valid as things that can be demonstrated through careful study and experimentation
Unlikely doesn't mean impossible, nor does it mean you get to fill in the blanks with "therefore god" unless you don't care about intellectual honesty.
Christian, Horus Heresy Dark Angels/Fallen Angels
>Lots of Christian tau players
They tend to be Protestant. Probably on account of them having more simple, minimalistic aesthetics compared to the more complicated and ornate aesthetics of the Imperium, and their government is secular compared to the more state-enforced religion of the Imperium.
Protestant, leaning Baptist, luv me Eldar
>be christian
>play word bearers
>exclusively play super evil armies on the side
its just a game, r-right?
Muslim, Orks.
Warhammer Orks aren't Porcs, so I guess it's Halal
ok that was a good one
There's actually disagreements whether fungi are halal or haram.
Because it's not against the rules as long as it stays on topic homosexual
Christianity is basically a Nurgle cult though.
>Centralized around paternalistic figures
>Focussed on despair and lack of human agency
>Only hope is to be transported to the gods realm after death
>Regards all life as equal and worships meekness
on despair and lack of human agency
This must be Calvinism
all life as equal and worships meekness
Christianity does not regard all life as equal. Humans are very much accorded special privileges that other life forms do not receive.
Meekness is also highly regarded in other religions like Daoism and Buddhism. Both of those also accord special privileges to humans such as being able to awaken or become immortal.
>>Only hope is to be transported to the gods realm after death
This is essentially the same as many schools Buddhism who teach that awakening is only possible for monks and nuns but there is some non-zero chance that one might identify with a buddha or be transported to a buddha realm if one has practised diligently during life, the same as Christians are supposed to accept the Christ as saviour whilst alive.
on despair and lack of human agency
That's 50% Buddhism, but human agency is everything in.
around paternalistic figures
Buddhism and Daoism.
Since you're as right about Nurgle being Buddhism as you are it being Christianity, which is to say you misrepresent some key points, why the hate boner for Christianity?
Because, the topic of this thread is christianity. Although you're right that christianity does not have a monopoly on slave morality which basically is Nurgle worship.
If they are asking if you tried the new blueberry 40k branded cereal it debatably might be. I heard there is a small piece of a space marine at the bottom of each box. Collect them all to get the full mini!!!
They should have just banned you. That'd fix it. I get 24hr bans without breaking any rules and yet here you are ...
So many deleted posts
Almost like it's an off topic thread or something but don't worry it won't be deleted the tranitor clearly made it himself
Half fedora-posting; Half porn spam in case you were curious
There wasn't any porn spam, it was almost all fedora-posting and counter-fedora-posting.
It was a shame, because a bunch of the atheists claimed to play Word Bearers.
And acted like Erebus.
>There wasn't any porn spam
You must've missed the hentai that one upset homosexual started dumping.
Southern Baptist. About to make the jump from Kill Team to 40k. I was gonna go Dark Angels but with the battleforce boxes coming out now I'm thinking Word Bearers.
Protestant, studying to become a deacon. Used to play World eaters but now play guard, orks and recently dipped hard into kroot.
Polish Catholic guard player here
Baptist
Death Guard
Sisters
Dwarfs
yeah try and figure that out.....
Can you be a Protestant in the grimdark future of 40k?
Chaos protests The Emperor, does that count?
Christianity as a whole is illegal in the Imperium so...no.
Catholic.
Kroot.
Who made that gif?
The king.
See here: https://www.deviantart.com/steeljoe/gallery
That guy makes the best art. Also thanks Janny!
Orthodox Christian: I play Black Templars, a mix of various traitor legions, my own homebrew chapter and I own a few ‘nids as well. Just started Necrons
Catholic here. I play T'au and Nurgle in killteam if that counts
>Peter making excuses to Christ after admonishment for his lack of faith (circa 32AD, colorized)
It's quiet funny how meme christians depicting Christ as le Chad just betrays their lack of genuine religiosity. You worship heathen ideals like strength and virility. The entire reason why the Pharisee rejected Jesus is because he WASN'T their promised warlord. He subverted all expectations of what the power of God actually was.
Orthodox Christian enjoyer of Horus Heresy and Old World here, I know a couple fellow Orthos who are into Warhammer
Christian here, i like me some orkz
Christian here (not a good one I'll admit).
Imperial Guard.
Southern baptist,
DEldar I pretend are Crone world 40K, Pro Horus RG 30K
Asatru, playing Grey Knights mixed with Blood Angels (Because a psychic dreadnought should actually be psychic), Raven Guard, and Iyanden.
My wife, who's an apathetic agnostic, plays Nids... but with models we've built that look like FF14 moogles. Mognet = Hivemind.
I'm a TradCath and I'm not into 40k myself but I know other TradCaths who are.
Theologically the emps is the anti-christ and tzeentch is probably Archangel Michael.
The Antichrist fights against Mystery Babylon so the four chaos gods are likely one force created by whoever created the Emperor so he can escape the universe.
Is it possible to leave the galaxy via the immaterium?
There's very little lore, but the Warp is the emanation of living souls and there's no life in between galaxies, and the Tyranids had never encountered the Warp before, so it seems unlikely.
Buddhist, I play Sisters of Battle and a bunch of Imperial misc. in Kill Team or run them with my Sisters (Naval Breachers, Arbites, Inquisitor + Inquisition squad)
I think Catholics have a slightly more appealing aesthetic to their vestments and their places of worship, but I'm morally incompatible with Christianity.
So at this point jannies have deleted almost every post Ive made ITT and they weren't even off topic. So I don't really see the point in continuing to reply to this thread. Thanks for your tine everyone, it was a good thread but spammers ruined it and jannies can't do their fricking jobs to save their lives.