Yeah, Carmack said something along those lines, like that even if VR is as easy as putting on sunglasses, that doesn't make it as accessible as just grabbing your phone. VR and AR has a potential to replace smart phones, but to actually get there it would have to be as easy or easier than using a modern smart phone which it isn't anywhere close to now
Don't trust these shitty chinese product ads, nothing on israelitetube is real or organic anymore. Everything is a paid ad and they don't talk about the many many many problems these products have. I got gipped by the dpvr E4, it's almost unuseable and they keep changing the driver software on the daily. It's like they gave an intern the job to keep fricking around with it.
Also those glasses don't seem to have any sort of tracking, it's nauseating as frick when a display moves with your head instead of staying in place like you expect.
I never said they were perfect, but it's not something far off, a few more editions and it'll be decent
>Also those glasses don't seem to have any sort of tracking, it's nauseating as frick when a display moves with your head instead of staying in place like you expect.
like I said, they need software to make them usable
like this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xreal/comments/17g6wso/its_here_virtual_display_is_ready_and_available/
expect samsung to make their own glasses to compete with apple and they'll wipe the floor with today's smart glasses
I need the hinge. It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't keep fricking with the software and pushing updates you have no control over, it was actually working pretty good a week ago.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I need the hinge
didn't do your homework I see
and missed out on ALL the quest games for a knockoff quest that can only do pcvr
meanwhile I'm playing these gems
5 months ago
Anonymous
also does your knockoff quest have handtracking to be able to do this?
who cares? >Ferraris will never be mainstream because nobody wants to sit so low to the floor and spin out if they press the pedal too hard
that's what you sound like you pathetic little poorgay
that's not the reason, unreal and unity both work on visionpro, they could easily make games for it if they want
the issue is that the system simply isn't designed with gaming in mind
there's no controllers and we haven't seen anything like hand tracking for the vision pro, it severely limits vr gaming options, how would a basic vr game like moss work on visionpro?
gaming has never been a priority for apple, and I don't see that changing, gamedevs are not guaranteed sales from a majority non gaming audience, especially when the unit is $3k, you're just not going to get many sales to make development of anything complex worth it
there's really no real benefit to making a game for visionpro, when it would work as well in pcvr/quest/psvr2 which have vastly more potential customers
it's a high end computer that you strap on your face but with some features straight from science fiction. how much do you need for a VR-ready gaming rig and VR headset?
VR will always be shit because you need to convince mouthbreather consolegays with a 50 pages bulletpoint of games worth playing.
It's fine right where it's at, being a enthusiast hobby similar to late 90's and early 2000's PC gaming.
Yes you're a spirital consolegay with your 500$-tier PC playing triple A slops at 1080p. You homosexuals have been destroying PC gaming for more than a decade now.
Consoles are only nice if you play single player RPG games. All good multiplayer games are on PC, and all competitive games are played via a PC. It’s no surprise EVO was all PC. Sure though, it’s superior bro.
>multiplayer games
where's your smash brothers or mario kart? oh you dont have one lolololol
>and all competitive games are played via a PC
so? all of those series started on consoles
people only play the PC versions cause they run better than the console versions, but the design of those games are still unmistakenly console oriented and it's obvious the devs still care about console more
games designed for PC first are always lame
always some east european game about suffering in an east european shithole with ugly menus, janky animations and buggy gameplay
just described 99% of PC games and you know I am right
pcs still wouldn't have a decent controller if not for consoles
you'd still be using mouse and keyboard for everything, stick to your spreadsheets sonny
imagine a VR/AR horror game like Eternal Darkness with 4th wall breaking and sanity meter but the sanity meter is actually your heart data from Apple Watch
VR is only worth it if you are terminal weeb or furry WITH friends. Everyone else is just normies larping how they used it for 2 hours and whooaaa duude it's so gooood!!
vr is worth it if you like games that try new things and 3d movies
just being able to see the world without buying a plane ticket is worth it to me
have YOU ever been here?
Maybe some day but not because of Apple. Right now VR headsets are the best for gaming and even then they feel like they haven't do anything cool in years.
This specific thing? No. It won't have an application store or 3rd party development. It's like the first iPhone; you can use what it comes with and that's it. Maybe the next Vision.
VR will never be mainstream because nobody wants to put shit on their head. it's uncomfortable and exhausting.
it's not for videogames
wrong
also the quest 4 will probably be something like this
>also the quest 4 will probably be something like this
pointless proof of concept gimick with no use what so ever
>smaller, lighter, higher res, better colors, has eye tracking
>no use
kys moron
Yeah, Carmack said something along those lines, like that even if VR is as easy as putting on sunglasses, that doesn't make it as accessible as just grabbing your phone. VR and AR has a potential to replace smart phones, but to actually get there it would have to be as easy or easier than using a modern smart phone which it isn't anywhere close to now
>which it isn't anywhere close to now
it's not that far away
this + better fov + better software and it'll already be able to replace phones and tvs for many people
Don't trust these shitty chinese product ads, nothing on israelitetube is real or organic anymore. Everything is a paid ad and they don't talk about the many many many problems these products have. I got gipped by the dpvr E4, it's almost unuseable and they keep changing the driver software on the daily. It's like they gave an intern the job to keep fricking around with it.
Also those glasses don't seem to have any sort of tracking, it's nauseating as frick when a display moves with your head instead of staying in place like you expect.
I never said they were perfect, but it's not something far off, a few more editions and it'll be decent
>Also those glasses don't seem to have any sort of tracking, it's nauseating as frick when a display moves with your head instead of staying in place like you expect.
like I said, they need software to make them usable
like this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xreal/comments/17g6wso/its_here_virtual_display_is_ready_and_available/
expect samsung to make their own glasses to compete with apple and they'll wipe the floor with today's smart glasses
>dpvr E4
why the frick would you buy something that has no support and isn't recommended by anyone?
you kinda deserve to get gipped lmao
I need the hinge. It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't keep fricking with the software and pushing updates you have no control over, it was actually working pretty good a week ago.
>I need the hinge
didn't do your homework I see
and missed out on ALL the quest games for a knockoff quest that can only do pcvr
meanwhile I'm playing these gems
also does your knockoff quest have handtracking to be able to do this?
Yup it's the longest running meme in tech.
who cares?
>Ferraris will never be mainstream because nobody wants to sit so low to the floor and spin out if they press the pedal too hard
that's what you sound like you pathetic little poorgay
>exhausting
lose weight fatty
this
Do you want Candy Crush 1 inch from your eyes?
>Apple
>Vidya
Lmao. Linux outnumbered MacOS on Steam despite its huge marketing. I can't even imagine a more hostile company to gamers than Apple.
No developer would get involved with propitiatory hardware made by Apple. They would no doubt lose their IP in some weird contract.
that's not the reason, unreal and unity both work on visionpro, they could easily make games for it if they want
the issue is that the system simply isn't designed with gaming in mind
there's no controllers and we haven't seen anything like hand tracking for the vision pro, it severely limits vr gaming options, how would a basic vr game like moss work on visionpro?
gaming has never been a priority for apple, and I don't see that changing, gamedevs are not guaranteed sales from a majority non gaming audience, especially when the unit is $3k, you're just not going to get many sales to make development of anything complex worth it
there's really no real benefit to making a game for visionpro, when it would work as well in pcvr/quest/psvr2 which have vastly more potential customers
The only VR game confirmed for Vision Pro so far is Rec Room.
it's not released yet. and even iPhone got Resident Evil 4 Remake port
>it's not released yet
Rec Room is already on iPhone
I meant the Vision Pro
What the hell are you talking about? The iPhone has tons of games, most of them are shit but there are some good ones.
Right, apple devices have been the #1 choice of gamers worldwide.
$3499
it's a high end computer that you strap on your face but with some features straight from science fiction. how much do you need for a VR-ready gaming rig and VR headset?
The only thing it'll be good for is separating morons from their money.
Probably no considering it's designed to be operated with your bare hands and voice commands. No the best inputs for games I assume.
it has bluetooth. just connect any fricking controller to it. macOS and iOS have custom menus even for Nintendo's Joy Cons
>just connect any fricking controller to it
that's not going to work even for beat saber lol
>joycons
uh huh, and how is the headset going to track them to act as your hands?
maybe connect a controller that is designed for VR games? fricking moron
oh yeah, this will totally work on the visionpro! /s
Vr will always be shit until a dev team actually takes a risk and commits real money to developing a good game for it.
there's tons of good vr games
Half-Life Alyx and..? Even that is like an early Wii first person shooter
VR will always be shit because you need to convince mouthbreather consolegays with a 50 pages bulletpoint of games worth playing.
It's fine right where it's at, being a enthusiast hobby similar to late 90's and early 2000's PC gaming.
Yes you're a spirital consolegay with your 500$-tier PC playing triple A slops at 1080p. You homosexuals have been destroying PC gaming for more than a decade now.
console games have always been and still are superior to pc games
Consoles are only nice if you play single player RPG games. All good multiplayer games are on PC, and all competitive games are played via a PC. It’s no surprise EVO was all PC. Sure though, it’s superior bro.
>multiplayer games
where's your smash brothers or mario kart? oh you dont have one lolololol
>and all competitive games are played via a PC
so? all of those series started on consoles
people only play the PC versions cause they run better than the console versions, but the design of those games are still unmistakenly console oriented and it's obvious the devs still care about console more
games designed for PC first are always lame
always some east european game about suffering in an east european shithole with ugly menus, janky animations and buggy gameplay
just described 99% of PC games and you know I am right
pcs still wouldn't have a decent controller if not for consoles
you'd still be using mouse and keyboard for everything, stick to your spreadsheets sonny
imagine a VR/AR horror game like Eternal Darkness with 4th wall breaking and sanity meter but the sanity meter is actually your heart data from Apple Watch
VR is only worth it if you are terminal weeb or furry WITH friends. Everyone else is just normies larping how they used it for 2 hours and whooaaa duude it's so gooood!!
vr is worth it if you like games that try new things and 3d movies
just being able to see the world without buying a plane ticket is worth it to me
have YOU ever been here?
howbout HERE?
Maybe some day but not because of Apple. Right now VR headsets are the best for gaming and even then they feel like they haven't do anything cool in years.
This specific thing? No. It won't have an application store or 3rd party development. It's like the first iPhone; you can use what it comes with and that's it. Maybe the next Vision.
>apple anything
>good for vidya
no.