is it worth it to switch to linux for pure gaming? I saw a couple of games comparisons between windows and linux and it seems that they're about the same
With proton linux is pretty damn good for gaming now, but you'll still run into the rare game that's a hassle to run or issues with games that use anticheat. Luckily for the latter those types of games are only played by plebs.
>is it worth it to switch to linux for pure gaming?
For gaming? Absolutely not. It's a worthwhile alternative if you're so fed up with Windows itself that you're willing to make some compromises just to move out, but there are no benefits when it comes to gaming except some rare edge cases.
SOLELY for gaming? No. You switch because you want to use Linux as a daily driver, and then you're pleasantly surprised when 95%+ of games work great. But if you use your PC for gaming ONLY and nothing else, it's an objectively less compatible experience.
>Intel CPU >AMD GPU
I am beyond God Tier. You will kneel.
No point buying intel, escpecially for gaming. 7800X3D is faster than the 13900k, much cheaper, more energy efficient (you don't need high end water cooler) and it's on a better platform.
To be fair they essentially trade blows in gaming but the 7800X3D is $300 and the 13900k is $500. The 13900k also draws like double the power and is harder to cool
You're moronic if you're getting a 5950x for gaming though, that's a CPU meant for things that are heavy in multi-threading. A 5800X3D was *the* gaming CPU before the latest chips tho.
Nvidia has a great top end offering if you got the money to waste and it's pretty fricking premium. Poorgays on the other hand rocking a 4070 feeling like hot shit are on the same level as poorgays walking around with an iphone 11
Like what? I'd assume it's the opposite, the cpus were mogging intel for a while and are about even now while the gpus can't stand up to nvidia and all they really have going for them are open source drivers.
They're bullshitting.
AMD CPU's are the best option right now, performance on par with Intel, very competitive pricing, better platform with more room for upgrades down the line.
Like what? I'd assume it's the opposite, the cpus were mogging intel for a while and are about even now while the gpus can't stand up to nvidia and all they really have going for them are open source drivers.
GPU's are more of a mixed bag. 7800XT stomps 4070 and 4060TI in rasterization but lags behind in ray tracing, although it it is usable. 7900XT and variants do the same to the 4080 and are generally slightly cheaper. 4090 is in a class of it's own. Used cards vary wildly in price, but the 6700xt and 6800XT are both strong budget picks for rasterization only.
FSR2 gets rekt by dlss 2/3. Doesnt look like FSR3 will do much to change that.
Finally, if you're on Linux the only nvidia card you should consider is the 4090. It's not worth dealing with nvidia jank for anything less than the best.
It's a case of picking your poison.
NOVIDEO >Good day 1 support for new hardware >Feature parity with windows for rtx and dlss >No good overclocking support >No good Wayland support >Pervasive microstutter everywhere that you can't get rid of >Yes the nvidia microstutter DOES stack on top of the xorg microstutter if you're on xorg. Which is the only platform they support properly. >Will randomly break key features like HDMI working at resolutions higher than 1080p >Riddled with small glitches and issues >When things break, no communication, no timeline just radio silence until they decide to patch it. >Patching can take literal years >They might not bother
AyyyMD >Easy to install >It just werks >Great Wayland support, it just werks >No microstutter(except on xorg, but that's expected) >Can overclock >All the small bugs which you have to
live with on nvidia are gone >new hardware typically not supported well on day 1 >open source drivers work better than prop ones, but typically lag behind in features(full ray tracing for RX 6000 has only just been added) >Stuff still breaks sometimes >but it's typically fixed much faster and you can almost always workaround it
What's really hard to summarize briefly is the experience of dealing with nvidia jank. You'll see stuff like windows randomly flickering, or have glitches with menu transparency and think, oh that's a linux problem, but it's actually an nvidia problem. Really can't recommend unless you must have the highest framerates or you need a secondary card for cuda.
In 2023 you should really be getting a 5800x3D (or 7800x3D if you want to pay a bit more for a newer platform), 32gb of RAM, any compatible motherboard, any SSD and then spend the rest of your budget on the best Nvidia GPU you can afford, personally I think a second hand 3090 is the best mid-range option right now. 3060 (non-TI) for low end and if you can afford it then 4090 is obviously the best you can get
AMD stuff has been infamous for years for overheating and breaking after a short period of use.
I got an old Intel laptop from 2004 with xp and it's still working no problem. I dare you find an AMD one that old that still works.
sapphire nitro+ are great cards
have both a 5700xt nitro+ and a 6750xt nitro+ in different builds and am very happy with them, they run cool and quiet though i have fractal torrents for cases with all the fan slots filled up for lots of airflow
I like amd cpus because their sockets don't change constantly, making it easy to upgrade to a more powerful one a few years down the road without doing the whole motherboard.
No. I dropped AMD for the second time in my life now. The fricking thing will disable the graphics drivers after coming back from sleep. How moronic is that? I had to fricking reboot 6 times a day.
>inb4 lmao just use linux
Intel ARC works much better on linux, no reason to use AyyyMD
AMD cards are for contrarian homosexuals. There's a reason why they're so cheap. GARBAGE graphics cards. Just spend the extra $100 for something that will work
Yes. I have a 5800x3d and 6750xt. I had a ryzen 1700 and rx 580 for six years before that, all I had to do to upgrade was drop the new cpu and gpu into the same motherboard. Never had any problems. I imagine anyone buying into AM5 now will be able to do something similar in 5 years.
>"Are AMD builds worth it"
Depends, how much money do you have? >not much
Get a Ryzen 5### CPU and an RX6600 GPU. >i've got some money i guess
Get a Ryzen #800X3D CPU and an RX6800XT GPU. >i've got money
Get a Ryzen 7800X3D CPU and an RTX4090 GPU.
have no experience with AMD CPUs. AMD GPUs are good for gaming, useless for anything else. just don't update your drivers unless you absolutely have to because it's literal russian roulette, there's a 50/50 chance of it either working fine or hard crashing every 2 minutes.
If you use your PC for work, no. AMD GPUs still have so many driver issues, ever time I update graphics drivers it's a gamble as to whether or not my software will work
>CPU
absolutely
the 7800x3d is god tier >GPU
only if the nvidia alternative is unreasonably cheaper so the AMD offering of that same tier is much better performance per dollar (see: 6700xt/6800xt) otherwise no, they're second rate
Sure, why not?
only the cpu part of them
Best bang for your buck
AMD CPUs aren't
Worse price/performance than Intel, a $150 i5 12400F beats a $500 5950X in gaming/emulation workloads
AMD GPUs are absolutely worth it if you use Linux or plan to switch to Linux, they have open-source drivers that are better than Nvidia.
If you're using Windows OS like a good goy and care about fake frames and generating AI porn then buy Nvidia.
is it worth it to switch to linux for pure gaming? I saw a couple of games comparisons between windows and linux and it seems that they're about the same
>is it worth it to switch to linux for pure gaming?
Now but it's worth it for freedom, security, and privacy.
With proton linux is pretty damn good for gaming now, but you'll still run into the rare game that's a hassle to run or issues with games that use anticheat. Luckily for the latter those types of games are only played by plebs.
>is it worth it to switch to linux for pure gaming?
For gaming? Absolutely not. It's a worthwhile alternative if you're so fed up with Windows itself that you're willing to make some compromises just to move out, but there are no benefits when it comes to gaming except some rare edge cases.
SOLELY for gaming? No. You switch because you want to use Linux as a daily driver, and then you're pleasantly surprised when 95%+ of games work great. But if you use your PC for gaming ONLY and nothing else, it's an objectively less compatible experience.
No point buying intel, escpecially for gaming. 7800X3D is faster than the 13900k, much cheaper, more energy efficient (you don't need high end water cooler) and it's on a better platform.
>7800x3d is faster than the 13900k
don't tell him
To be fair they essentially trade blows in gaming but the 7800X3D is $300 and the 13900k is $500. The 13900k also draws like double the power and is harder to cool
You're moronic if you're getting a 5950x for gaming though, that's a CPU meant for things that are heavy in multi-threading. A 5800X3D was *the* gaming CPU before the latest chips tho.
I feel like I have seen this exact post copypasted in any thread AMD comes up in.
CSGO is highly multi threaded and even that benchmark is bullshit
There's a CSGO benchmark in this video too
Single-thread 5900X/5950X are even worse than 5800X cause of chiplet latency.
>Intel CPU
>AMD GPU
I am beyond God Tier. You will kneel.
dumbass
smartass
This is the best combination right now.
>highest clock speeds
>fastest memory speeds
>lowest driver overhead
>amd cpu
>nvidia gpu
w-what am I?
a normie
me too fren
>i7 13700
>7900XTX
>crossfire/SLI
>in 2023
My two 780Ti are still crying. Second died last year. It was good run.
Do not support ANTISEMITIC MICRO DEVICES
I SUPPORT ANTISEMITIC MICRO DEVICES
Better than coIntelpro
Worth what? AMD is for poorgays so that question doesn't really make sense.
why do moron pretend there is a gpu that iis not for poor people?
you are buying a fricking toy, poor people is the target market
>look guys I'm getting scammed by letting israelitevidia piss in my mouth haha look how rich am I
lmao
t. 4060TI owning moron
Nvidia has a great top end offering if you got the money to waste and it's pretty fricking premium. Poorgays on the other hand rocking a 4070 feeling like hot shit are on the same level as poorgays walking around with an iphone 11
Classic bait, aged like fine wine.
only the GPUs, CPUs have a lot of problems
Like what? I'd assume it's the opposite, the cpus were mogging intel for a while and are about even now while the gpus can't stand up to nvidia and all they really have going for them are open source drivers.
I've got amd cpu and Nvidia gpu. works great
They're bullshitting.
AMD CPU's are the best option right now, performance on par with Intel, very competitive pricing, better platform with more room for upgrades down the line.
GPU's are more of a mixed bag. 7800XT stomps 4070 and 4060TI in rasterization but lags behind in ray tracing, although it it is usable. 7900XT and variants do the same to the 4080 and are generally slightly cheaper. 4090 is in a class of it's own. Used cards vary wildly in price, but the 6700xt and 6800XT are both strong budget picks for rasterization only.
FSR2 gets rekt by dlss 2/3. Doesnt look like FSR3 will do much to change that.
Finally, if you're on Linux the only nvidia card you should consider is the 4090. It's not worth dealing with nvidia jank for anything less than the best.
>It's not worth dealing with nvidia jank for anything less than the best
I'm going linux soon. Can you elaborate on this?
It's a case of picking your poison.
NOVIDEO
>Good day 1 support for new hardware
>Feature parity with windows for rtx and dlss
>No good overclocking support
>No good Wayland support
>Pervasive microstutter everywhere that you can't get rid of
>Yes the nvidia microstutter DOES stack on top of the xorg microstutter if you're on xorg. Which is the only platform they support properly.
>Will randomly break key features like HDMI working at resolutions higher than 1080p
>Riddled with small glitches and issues
>When things break, no communication, no timeline just radio silence until they decide to patch it.
>Patching can take literal years
>They might not bother
AyyyMD
>Easy to install
>It just werks
>Great Wayland support, it just werks
>No microstutter(except on xorg, but that's expected)
>Can overclock
>All the small bugs which you have to
live with on nvidia are gone
>new hardware typically not supported well on day 1
>open source drivers work better than prop ones, but typically lag behind in features(full ray tracing for RX 6000 has only just been added)
>Stuff still breaks sometimes
>but it's typically fixed much faster and you can almost always workaround it
What's really hard to summarize briefly is the experience of dealing with nvidia jank. You'll see stuff like windows randomly flickering, or have glitches with menu transparency and think, oh that's a linux problem, but it's actually an nvidia problem. Really can't recommend unless you must have the highest framerates or you need a secondary card for cuda.
The difference in rt is like 5%
>ray tracing
won't be an usable technology for the next 5-10 years
In 2023 you should really be getting a 5800x3D (or 7800x3D if you want to pay a bit more for a newer platform), 32gb of RAM, any compatible motherboard, any SSD and then spend the rest of your budget on the best Nvidia GPU you can afford, personally I think a second hand 3090 is the best mid-range option right now. 3060 (non-TI) for low end and if you can afford it then 4090 is obviously the best you can get
No.
They are cheaper for a reason.
Because they're the underdog who has to fight to win their audience whereas intel and nvidia can take it for granted. Give actual reasons.
AMD stuff has been infamous for years for overheating and breaking after a short period of use.
I got an old Intel laptop from 2004 with xp and it's still working no problem. I dare you find an AMD one that old that still works.
Sapphire Nitro+ RX 7800 XT any good?
It's not worth paying extra for Nitro over Pulse or even reference model of 7800XT.
sapphire nitro+ are great cards
have both a 5700xt nitro+ and a 6750xt nitro+ in different builds and am very happy with them, they run cool and quiet though i have fractal torrents for cases with all the fan slots filled up for lots of airflow
I like amd cpus because their sockets don't change constantly, making it easy to upgrade to a more powerful one a few years down the road without doing the whole motherboard.
I have a complete AMD build and its fine.
CPU: Ryzen 7 7700X
GPU: XFX RX 6800 XT
RAM: 2x 16 GB G.Skill 6000 EXPO
For my next build i will go with full Intel.
>For my next build i will go with full Intel.
moron alert
why? its just fun.
Only if you are a linux/blender gay
I really like this case design but I would much prefer it at a m-atx size than a frickhueg e-atx. Is there something like it but smaller?
i3 12100f+6650xt or 5 5600+6600?
6750xt and 6850xt are amazing value atm
>7950x
>7900 xtx
>64gb ram but using all 4 slots so can't enable expo
How'd I do?
>so can't enable expo
I hope you aren't running JEDEC for the love of God.
expo and xmp are still shit, better than jedec but you should tune your ram
ive always been AMD cpu and nvida GPU. never had a problem till my 5950x. shot run fricking hot. ive had plenty system crashes...
Yes they are
CPI are fine.
GPU are okay but only if you don't care about meme tracing.
Yes.
>she fell for the 5900 meme
No. I dropped AMD for the second time in my life now. The fricking thing will disable the graphics drivers after coming back from sleep. How moronic is that? I had to fricking reboot 6 times a day.
>inb4 lmao just use linux
Intel ARC works much better on linux, no reason to use AyyyMD
AMD cards are for contrarian homosexuals. There's a reason why they're so cheap. GARBAGE graphics cards. Just spend the extra $100 for something that will work
prove it
if it was for contrarians and homosexuals it'd be popular on Ganker instead of frowned upon.
what is the actual point of the 7950x3D
good gaymen cpu, good workstation cpu.
everyone says the 7800 one is better, is it just a sour grapes thing or are those people just talking about gaming
the 78x3d is a tiny bit better at gaming, but worse at production workloads
Works for me
t. 5600x and 6700xt
Yes. I have a 5800x3d and 6750xt. I had a ryzen 1700 and rx 580 for six years before that, all I had to do to upgrade was drop the new cpu and gpu into the same motherboard. Never had any problems. I imagine anyone buying into AM5 now will be able to do something similar in 5 years.
>"Are AMD builds worth it"
Depends, how much money do you have?
>not much
Get a Ryzen 5### CPU and an RX6600 GPU.
>i've got some money i guess
Get a Ryzen #800X3D CPU and an RX6800XT GPU.
>i've got money
Get a Ryzen 7800X3D CPU and an RTX4090 GPU.
have no experience with AMD CPUs. AMD GPUs are good for gaming, useless for anything else. just don't update your drivers unless you absolutely have to because it's literal russian roulette, there's a 50/50 chance of it either working fine or hard crashing every 2 minutes.
*laughs in random usb disconnect noise*
Cpus yeah. Gpus you're still stuck with the green israelite
If you use your PC for work, no. AMD GPUs still have so many driver issues, ever time I update graphics drivers it's a gamble as to whether or not my software will work
>CPU
absolutely
the 7800x3d is god tier
>GPU
only if the nvidia alternative is unreasonably cheaper so the AMD offering of that same tier is much better performance per dollar (see: 6700xt/6800xt) otherwise no, they're second rate
i meant only if the nvidia alternative is unreasonably more expensive*
sure, if you're poor