>if you want to save money but have to constantly troubleshoot everything
why are AMD cards like this
after switching to nvidia this year the one thing that never stopped surprising me is how much shit is plug and play that wasn't on AMD
if you want to save money but have to constantly troubleshoot everything then yeah.
I built with a ryzen 5 7600 and a 7900 XTX and it was literally plug and play. no issues at all. sounds like you need to learn how to build a pc properly
my 7970Ghz edition still allows me to play monster hunter world at 1440p on medium.
I bought that card in 2013.
Lol, looks like you've been scAMmeD
>if you want to save money but have to constantly troubleshoot everything
why are AMD cards like this
after switching to nvidia this year the one thing that never stopped surprising me is how much shit is plug and play that wasn't on AMD
ryzen x3d cpus are awesome for gaming, but amd gpus are meh. theyre ok for budget builds but they arent really even trying to compete with nvidia anymore otherwise.
There are plenty of CPU bound games, Anon. Off the top of my head, >Any extensive strategy game, not just Factorio, e.g. Anno 1800. >Kingdom Come: Deliverance >RDR2
Besides, you want a decent CPU if you're going for higher framerates instead of higher resolution, which I am.
The 7800XT casually slaps the nvidia budget line up to and including the 4070 and the 7900XTX is basically a 4090 at an almost reasonable price.
But it's true they don't really have a contender for the 4080 and their mainstream offerings are poor if you can't save up for a 7800XT.
>AMD CPU
Powerful, cheaper than Intcel, more reliable upgrade path since AMD doesn't change sockets with every iteration. Can't go wrong. >AMD GPU
I'll admit they're a better value than Novidya, but they shit the bed at path tracing, and the driver issues are real.
>AMD CPU
Powerful, cheaper than Intcel, more reliable upgrade path since AMD doesn't change sockets with every iteration. Can't go wrong. >AMD GPU
I'll admit they're a better value than Novidya, but they shit the bed at path tracing, and the driver issues are real.
>but they shit the bed at path tracing
i like how the goytracing goalposts already moved away from raytracing
when amd catches up to path tracing performance what do you think will be the next crippleworks abandonware goyvidia will cook up?
you would have a point if goyvidia didn't completely forget about their shiny new toy the instant they can't frick AMD in troony benchmarks with it
they are unironically the reason why UE5 is bloated slop at this point
>you would have a point if goyvidia didn't completely forget about their shiny new toy
PhysX is used in pretty much every single game.
DLSS is used in pretty much every single game.
RT is used in an ass ton of games.
What did Novidya drop?
>PhysX is used in pretty much every single game.
Where's all the dynamic destructible environments? Games today aren't any more interactive than N64 games were. >DLSS is used in pretty much every single game.
This is unironically a bad thing because it's a crutch for devs.
At this rate we will be rendering games at 240p native and 20fps then upscaling and frame generating fake shit only for the game to look worse than PS1 games. >RT is used in an ass ton of games.
Name 1 that isn't AAA goyslop.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Where's all the dynamic destructible environments?
Ask game designers. >This is unironically a bad thing because it's a crutch for devs.
Maybe, maybe not. Either way, devs use it as crutch because the technology fricking works, which proves my point. >Name 1 that isn't AAA goyslop.
Ghostwire: Tokyo.
Consumer GPU market just doesn't have the profit margins that selling overpriced chips to AI data centers has. Nobody cares about making powerful affordable products to make no money on them. Welcome to capitalism, son.
>more reliable upgrade path since AMD doesn't change sockets with every iteration
How often do you really upgrade your processor though? Usually when I get to the point of needing a CPU upgrade, I'll end up getting a new mobo too to take advantage of the new shit that's come out since I upgraded.
>easy replacements if shit ever hits the fan
I've been building PCs since 1995 and I've never had a CPU die outside of stuff I've salvaged from literal e-waste. >AM4 and AM5 MBs [...] cheaper
Maybe like five years ago this was the case
>muh power muh shekels
What really matters is backwards compatibility, which Intel has always reigned supreme at thanks to their dedicated autism to have everything compatible with a 40 year old microcomputer processor.
>you try different games and if some games work = likely driver
Some.of these cards come factory oc'd what if they are just unstable in different games
i'm surprised you stopped spamming these daily threads for like a week
what happened to you bro? i know it wasn't a 3 day, you took more than that as a break
I have a RX6600XT and can stream, record, edit, play games at high settings, emulate, rendor content...
I don't understand Gankers obsession with the latest video cards. I swear it's just larp posting by poors and underages who really don't know any better.
My 6600 will carry me for long time to come just fine.
>I swear it's just larp posting by poors and underages who really don't know any better.
A huge chunk of Ganker are 30+ year old boomers. Autistic loner boomers with tech meme jobs and a lot of disposable income.
I legit make 6 figures and don't have a family to worry about. I can afford to go out and buy 3 or 4 of those meme cards if I wanted. But, I'm not a moron willing to throw away 2 grand when what I have works perfectly fine.
BTW, I don't disagree with you, you're probably right, but there really is no such thing as "disposable" income. All money should be put to work or saved as a backup for emergencies. No such thing as money you can just freely burn (unless you're a billionaire).
>All money should be put to work
Yeah, put all your money away so you can have the chance enjoy it when you're old and broken (assuming you even live that long). Hell, put away even more so whatever's left once you die can be taken by the government and given to Shaniqua to feed her five bastards.
Thrift is gay
5 months ago
Anonymous
Where did I say to NOT enjoy it? I have a PS4 as well as a PC. It still works. I can still use and play games on it just fine. I don't "need" a PS5. So, why should I run out and sink $500 +tip on something that I don't need right now?
People who are always broke and bad with money almost ALWAYS rush about buy the newest shiny toy.
5 months ago
Anonymous
at some point when you grow up you realize diminishing returns are a b***h
you could spend 2 grand on a whole computer and get something good, or spend 7 grand on something overkill that is only marginally better in practice
even if you have the money, after the novelty wears off you learn there's no point in wasting it
First time buyers tempted to consider the RX 7700/7800 XT by AMD’s army of Advanced Marketing scammers (youtube, reddit, twitter, forums etc.) should be aware that AMD have a history of releasing benchmark busting, heavily marketed, sub standard products. Although Nvidia’s 4070 only offers comparable performance, it has a broader feature set (RT/DLSS 3.0) and offers far better game compatibility (drivers). PC gamers looking to join AMD’s “2%” GPU club (Steam stats: 5000/6000/7000 series combined mkt share) need to work on their critical thinking skills: Influencers (posing as reviewers) are paid handsomely to scam users into buying inferior products. Experienced gamers know all too well that high average fps are worthless when they are accompanied with stutters, random crashes, excessive noise and a limited feature set.
I get them with my shitty 1660ti card, too. I thought it was because it was old/getting too hot or some shit which is why I bought a RX 7600 but I still see them. Everything looks mostly normal but under certain lighting I'll see crap like pic related. This is upon game load so it's vram or system ram related I think.
That looks like it's just a bad model...
But if you've changed GPUs then system ram is the most likely culprit. Always start hardware troubleshooting with RAM. It's by far the easiest to test, replacing it is relatively cheap and your system will still work after you remove a faulty stick.
I've already tested each individual stick and ran memtest (which found no issues), swapped PSUs, ran DDU multiple times, swapped HDMI cables, etc. The only things that I haven't been able to replace are the motherboard and CPU. I've even tested with onboard graphics and the issue even persists there so I'm thinking that the motherboard or the CPU itself might be faulty. I'm at a loss at this point but since my games are stable and I only very rarely see artifacts, I'll just put up with it until I have the money to do a proper, full rebuild. It's definitely not that specific character model--issues persist in basically every game that I test now and it all started a few months ago while playing BG3. I mostly have issues with flickering shadows and occasional geometric artifacts (stretched textures that fix themselves if I zoom in or out).
AMD CPUs, the 3D cache variants in particular, are especially good for gaming. Radeon graphics cards aren't as good as the top of the line NVIDIA cards but depending on your price point they may still be a good deal.
Intel GPUs are AIDS right now for driver support and AMD/Nvidia have turned the currently relevant GPU market into a bet on what developers will do with ray tracing in the coming years, with AMD being the best buy for pure raster gaming unless you have 4090 (hopefully 4080 super beats the XTX too) money or really like certain Nvidia-favored games.
> Cyberpunk creates Path Tracing and puts it into their games > nobody doing these comparasion tests ever turns on Path Tracing, they all still use Ray Tracing only
>Performs as well as a 3090 in meme tracing >Almost on par with 4090 for raster >Costs significantly less than 4090 >This is supposed to be bad
I dont get it. It's more than enough for any RTX title except CP 2077 with path tracing, a mode that often looks worse than raster + regular RTX.
>Almost on par with 4090 for raster
Yeah that's a cope. It gets destroyed by the 4090 in most games, the XTX competes with the RTX 4080 in reality, while drawing 100+ more watts and being useless for RT/AI.
Huh. you're right, I just glanced at a few games instead of looking at the average. Thing is, it's still beating the 4080 in raster and it's within striking distance for ayy tracing while costing a third less.
>A hundred more watts
Beating the 4080 for a hundred watts sounds fine. And if you're happy to settle for 4080 equivalent performance you can down clock and undervolt. >AI
Yeah, if you want serious AI don't buy AMD. That said it's still fine for generating coom pics i.e 90% of local AI's current use cases. If you're not a researcher/professional/coomtard it's probably fine.
Bullshit.
I have been using nVidia for almost 2 decades. It's hit or miss. I have a dual boot with Linux and Shitdows, and I have issues with my RX6600XT and the Shitdows install.
The meme is real and still alive. AMD drivers are fantastic on Linux machines, but they are hit or miss on Shitdows machines.
since HAGS is now on AMD, Nvidia is obsolete. AMD GPUs have the more advanced GPU scheduler just like AMD CPUs have the scheduler advantage over Intel.
amd also has that "duct tape 2 7900xtxs" thing going on too, they are making actual tech advancements while goyvidia gave up when they couldn't just brainlessly keep shrinking the dies
what comes with the cuck vertical stand should be the case
i can't remember the last case that came with a meme sag holder
cards never come with it either unless it's extremely rare exceptions...... like OP's card which literally comes powercolor branded
depends on budget. amd cpus tend to be better regardless, but if you want the best gpu and dont give a frick about the pricetag go for a 4090 / 4080. otherwise a 6700xt is good performance per dollar. >blender
oh yeah absolutely go for NVIDIA, no reason to even consider amd radeon.
No, just buy a good tower cooler and keep your case ventilated. AIOs are good if you want a small meme build in a cramped case or you're running a top of the line chip that you're actively overclocking or you live somewhere where the ambient temperature is regularly above 28 degrees C
>AIOs are good if you want a small meme build in a cramped case
even in those, the outsides of the case are close enough and ventilated enough for that computer to be a test bench with some protection covers
at least on the non-shit SFF cases this is how it works
You definitely don't need a watercooler. I'm using 7800X3D in a very heat inefficient place (pocket under the table with only a single side open, radiator is nearby) with NH-D15, and that cooler is already overkill. I get 60 degrees under most load.
the problem is an air cooler is just as good for a fraction of the price
i would also take cleaning a generic tower cooler over doing maintenance on a radiator, that shit should be enough to make anyone swear off water cooling forever
are aio's pain to maintain compare to good ol wind?
5 months ago
Anonymous
short answer: YES
long answer: it really depends on your setup, but usually yes, compare a good tower cooler that at most will require you to use one of those stupid looking clips to hold in the fans or have a rail that lets you slide one in the middle of it for easy maintenance, your AIO will most likely require you do undo anywhere from 6 to 12 screws and unplug 1 to 5 cables to clean the damn thing, assuming you can wrangle it without unmounting it from your CPU, if you can't then have fun basically disassembling the entire fricking computer just to clean the radiator
this is not a joke by the way, people usually buy AIOs for SFF builds, and there's a reason most SFFgays do a single build before going back to good old ATX or stay SFF but go air, because if you think doing maintenance on a normal PC is bad, then you haven't felt suffering until you clean a SFF computer
5 months ago
Anonymous
i see, it depend how big ur case and how the aio assembly.
thx m8 for answering.
5 months ago
Anonymous
the pain in the ass comes from the fans you have to stick to the radiator
corsair is on the right track to fixing the problem with their moronic ass daisy chain fan system, but don't expect anyone else to catch up any time soon
No, my 6800xt is a marginal improvement from my old 1070 founders and the fsr 3.0 makes games crash when I turn it on. Nevermind the drivers randomly causing one of my monitors to stop working, I've since fixed that with no help from AMD, which assured me that the drivers were not the issue.
No, it was just a general driver issue, still in 2023. It was working fine for almost a year before I updated the drivers and the monitor stopped working. They wanted me to rma it before my brother recommended trying the amd cleanup utility.
You sound like one of those Gankereniuses. Get over it fanboy, in 2023 amd's drivers are still liable to brick something.
>Put new graphics card in >Install factory software >Update factory software >Factory software causes monitor to stop working >AMD tech support assures software is not the issue >User error
>Don't use DDU >Causes problem >Blames everyone and everything but the person who didn't DDU
5 months ago
Anonymous
But how would myself or anyone else know to do that? AMD tech support didn't know that lol. It's a graphics card, it's meant to be plug and play.
So if you're asking me, NVIDIA is the better choice. Thanks autistiGanker anon.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>But how would myself or anyone else know to do that?
by following extremely basic advice basically every single tech eceleb and rando poster here would tell you when jumping across gpu brands? >AMD tech support didn't know that lol.
they probably wrongly assumed you weren't a fricking moron and already tried to DDU
5 months ago
Anonymous
But everyone told me the problem wasn't driver related. Not only here and in Ganker, but AMD also. I very clearly explained everything I did to diagnose the issue, which included a factory reset of drivers and at no point did anyone here or at AMD say "hey the factory reset in adrenaline isn't going to cut it, use the AMD cleanup utility".
And you're still running away from the very embarrassing fact that in 2023 AMD drivers will brick shit.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>But everyone told me the problem wasn't driver related.
because it isn't, it's not a driver problem, it's a windows problem >which included a factory reset of drivers
then you fricking lied because you didn't use DDU or the memelin cleanup but claimed you did
5 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't lie about anything, I followed all the tutorials and successfully installed the new card and software which worked fine for about a year until I updated the drivers lol. AMD sucks shit, that's it. I don't want to admit it, I fricking hate NVIDIA after 2020 but AMD is still fundamentally selling garbage lol. The state of the hardware industry is embarrassing but there's no safe haven buying AMD products, they're still fricked up. Sorry to rustle your jimmies.
5 months ago
Anonymous
FYI you will get the exact same problems going from AMD to goyvidia if you don't DDU.
>fricking moronic marketing and youtube shills constantly talk about pushing higher resolutions and using technology to deal with framerates >always about ray tracing >now about path tracing >then some other meme technology
jesus what water are you guys drinking. 1080p is all you need.
So the 7800xt I have is huge. Are vertical GPU mounting frames worth the cost? I can't trust the shitty little piece of metal anti-sag bracket they gave me for horizontal mounting.
I'm happy with my 6800XT. And now fluid motion frames makes some raytracing feasible. Apart from metro exodus, they pulled some black magic there and even runs well with RT enabled
the prices are permanently irreparably fricked at this point and it goes double for goyvidia because of the hottest new meme that is AI shit
just buy it now
if you want to save money but have to constantly troubleshoot everything then yeah.
>if you want to save money but have to constantly troubleshoot everything
why are AMD cards like this
after switching to nvidia this year the one thing that never stopped surprising me is how much shit is plug and play that wasn't on AMD
I built with a ryzen 5 7600 and a 7900 XTX and it was literally plug and play. no issues at all. sounds like you need to learn how to build a pc properly
>he posted while fighting back the tears
you are far, far more transparent than you think you are
ok how you know
>ok how you know
Most likely because you are an ESL pajeet shilling AMD graphics cards, I would assume.
>ESL pajeet shilling
The pot calling the kettle.
so you dont know
newbie
I have the same card and it just werkz.
Glad I didn't fall for the nvidia shilling.
Werks on my machine™
NVIDIA scalpers already at it.
my 7970Ghz edition still allows me to play monster hunter world at 1440p on medium.
I bought that card in 2013.
you guys are moronic
Lol, looks like you've been scAMmeD
It literally doesn't matter. Buy whatever makes you happy, they all do the same thing.
ryzen x3d cpus are awesome for gaming, but amd gpus are meh. theyre ok for budget builds but they arent really even trying to compete with nvidia anymore otherwise.
Is there a single game cpu bound besides a 1000 hour Factorio save? If you're cpu bound you probably haven't upgraded in the last 12 years
There are plenty of CPU bound games, Anon. Off the top of my head,
>Any extensive strategy game, not just Factorio, e.g. Anno 1800.
>Kingdom Come: Deliverance
>RDR2
Besides, you want a decent CPU if you're going for higher framerates instead of higher resolution, which I am.
plenty modern games are prone to cpu related stuttering.
Every emulator.
unironically false when every console game since ever is fps capped
moron.
Came here to post this. Why would I buy a new Intel CPU when they don't have AVX 512 while new AMD CPUs do?
The 7800XT casually slaps the nvidia budget line up to and including the 4070 and the 7900XTX is basically a 4090 at an almost reasonable price.
But it's true they don't really have a contender for the 4080 and their mainstream offerings are poor if you can't save up for a 7800XT.
Yes. Intel is pretty shit. X3d blows it out of the water and their cards are cheaper with the same performance.
>AMD CPU
Powerful, cheaper than Intcel, more reliable upgrade path since AMD doesn't change sockets with every iteration. Can't go wrong.
>AMD GPU
I'll admit they're a better value than Novidya, but they shit the bed at path tracing, and the driver issues are real.
Post a picture of your amd gpu that you have since you can confidently say that. Thread will die before you do it.
STILL WAITING.
>but they shit the bed at path tracing
i like how the goytracing goalposts already moved away from raytracing
when amd catches up to path tracing performance what do you think will be the next crippleworks abandonware goyvidia will cook up?
"it can't DLSS"
So it's not consolegays that are holding back gaming, it's AyyMDgays being luddites.
you would have a point if goyvidia didn't completely forget about their shiny new toy the instant they can't frick AMD in troony benchmarks with it
they are unironically the reason why UE5 is bloated slop at this point
>you would have a point if goyvidia didn't completely forget about their shiny new toy
PhysX is used in pretty much every single game.
DLSS is used in pretty much every single game.
RT is used in an ass ton of games.
What did Novidya drop?
>PhysX is used in pretty much every single game.
Where's all the dynamic destructible environments? Games today aren't any more interactive than N64 games were.
>DLSS is used in pretty much every single game.
This is unironically a bad thing because it's a crutch for devs.
At this rate we will be rendering games at 240p native and 20fps then upscaling and frame generating fake shit only for the game to look worse than PS1 games.
>RT is used in an ass ton of games.
Name 1 that isn't AAA goyslop.
>Where's all the dynamic destructible environments?
Ask game designers.
>This is unironically a bad thing because it's a crutch for devs.
Maybe, maybe not. Either way, devs use it as crutch because the technology fricking works, which proves my point.
>Name 1 that isn't AAA goyslop.
Ghostwire: Tokyo.
Consumer GPU market just doesn't have the profit margins that selling overpriced chips to AI data centers has. Nobody cares about making powerful affordable products to make no money on them. Welcome to capitalism, son.
>more reliable upgrade path since AMD doesn't change sockets with every iteration
How often do you really upgrade your processor though? Usually when I get to the point of needing a CPU upgrade, I'll end up getting a new mobo too to take advantage of the new shit that's come out since I upgraded.
it's not just about upgrades, it's about easy replacements if shit ever hits the fan
reusable sockets also tends to make AM4 and AM5 MBs far cheaper
>easy replacements if shit ever hits the fan
I've been building PCs since 1995 and I've never had a CPU die outside of stuff I've salvaged from literal e-waste.
>AM4 and AM5 MBs [...] cheaper
Maybe like five years ago this was the case
>muh power muh shekels
What really matters is backwards compatibility, which Intel has always reigned supreme at thanks to their dedicated autism to have everything compatible with a 40 year old microcomputer processor.
Yes. If you're a Win 7 luddite, or a loonix troony.
Windows 7 isn't supported even on Ryzen 1, you'd have to go back to FX for that, and at that point just get Ivy Bridge or something.
How can you tell if it's a driver issue or a GPU issue
>Game not work ever
Grug say GPU issue
>Game not work then work or work then not work
Grug say driver issue
What if it's the power supply
>PC work but slow
Not power supply issue
>PC work then not work
Power supply issue
Congratulations on outing yourself on not knowing anything about hardware diagnosing.
you try different games and if some games work = likely driver
if nothing works = gpu or some other hardware
>you try different games and if some games work = likely driver
Some.of these cards come factory oc'd what if they are just unstable in different games
returns policy
i'm surprised you stopped spamming these daily threads for like a week
what happened to you bro? i know it wasn't a 3 day, you took more than that as a break
AMD CPUs are just good.
AMD GPUs are trash on windows and god-tier on Linux.
The only bit of truth in the whole thread.
I've been running full AMD for over three years and never had any major issue. Things just werk
>7800XT with a chipset limited to PCIe 3.0 slot
why bro
Even a 4090 runs fine at pcie3
It only matters for the x4 cards like the 6500xt, not even the x8 cards really mind pcie3
I have a RX6600XT and can stream, record, edit, play games at high settings, emulate, rendor content...
I don't understand Gankers obsession with the latest video cards. I swear it's just larp posting by poors and underages who really don't know any better.
My 6600 will carry me for long time to come just fine.
>I swear it's just larp posting by poors and underages who really don't know any better.
A huge chunk of Ganker are 30+ year old boomers. Autistic loner boomers with tech meme jobs and a lot of disposable income.
I legit make 6 figures and don't have a family to worry about. I can afford to go out and buy 3 or 4 of those meme cards if I wanted. But, I'm not a moron willing to throw away 2 grand when what I have works perfectly fine.
BTW, I don't disagree with you, you're probably right, but there really is no such thing as "disposable" income. All money should be put to work or saved as a backup for emergencies. No such thing as money you can just freely burn (unless you're a billionaire).
>All money should be put to work
Yeah, put all your money away so you can have the chance enjoy it when you're old and broken (assuming you even live that long). Hell, put away even more so whatever's left once you die can be taken by the government and given to Shaniqua to feed her five bastards.
Thrift is gay
Where did I say to NOT enjoy it? I have a PS4 as well as a PC. It still works. I can still use and play games on it just fine. I don't "need" a PS5. So, why should I run out and sink $500 +tip on something that I don't need right now?
People who are always broke and bad with money almost ALWAYS rush about buy the newest shiny toy.
at some point when you grow up you realize diminishing returns are a b***h
you could spend 2 grand on a whole computer and get something good, or spend 7 grand on something overkill that is only marginally better in practice
even if you have the money, after the novelty wears off you learn there's no point in wasting it
The more you talk about tech here the more you realize it's mostly underages slapfighting about which prebuilt their parents got them is better.
Only 4090's are starting to use the full PCIe x16 3.0 bandwith.
is the 7800XT good? have a 2060s and planning on upgrading to either a 4070 or 7800xt
it's the best amd gpu you can get right now before diminishing returns in flagship prices start fricking you in the ass
First time buyers tempted to consider the RX 7700/7800 XT by AMD’s army of Advanced Marketing scammers (youtube, reddit, twitter, forums etc.) should be aware that AMD have a history of releasing benchmark busting, heavily marketed, sub standard products. Although Nvidia’s 4070 only offers comparable performance, it has a broader feature set (RT/DLSS 3.0) and offers far better game compatibility (drivers). PC gamers looking to join AMD’s “2%” GPU club (Steam stats: 5000/6000/7000 series combined mkt share) need to work on their critical thinking skills: Influencers (posing as reviewers) are paid handsomely to scam users into buying inferior products. Experienced gamers know all too well that high average fps are worthless when they are accompanied with stutters, random crashes, excessive noise and a limited feature set.
this unironically reads like you grabbed it off userbenchmarks
Anon did. I've read that exact same copypasta there.
Love me some userbenchmarks
Get a 6800XT instead. The drivers are a lot better and performance loss is negligible.
even if they are not good, that fricking machine looks HELLA EPIC Sweet
Yeah, way lower wattage for same performance
>switch from Nvidia to AMD card
>brand new card
>still see the exact same artifacts even though the card runs at 60 C
Life is suffering. They're really minor and don't affect performance but still
ram issue, if you have intel xmp or something, try turn that off
>artifacts
>radeon
let me guess micron vram?
try alt tab over and over when gaming (borderless window/fullscreen)
I get them with my shitty 1660ti card, too. I thought it was because it was old/getting too hot or some shit which is why I bought a RX 7600 but I still see them. Everything looks mostly normal but under certain lighting I'll see crap like pic related. This is upon game load so it's vram or system ram related I think.
That looks like it's just a bad model...
But if you've changed GPUs then system ram is the most likely culprit. Always start hardware troubleshooting with RAM. It's by far the easiest to test, replacing it is relatively cheap and your system will still work after you remove a faulty stick.
I've already tested each individual stick and ran memtest (which found no issues), swapped PSUs, ran DDU multiple times, swapped HDMI cables, etc. The only things that I haven't been able to replace are the motherboard and CPU. I've even tested with onboard graphics and the issue even persists there so I'm thinking that the motherboard or the CPU itself might be faulty. I'm at a loss at this point but since my games are stable and I only very rarely see artifacts, I'll just put up with it until I have the money to do a proper, full rebuild. It's definitely not that specific character model--issues persist in basically every game that I test now and it all started a few months ago while playing BG3. I mostly have issues with flickering shadows and occasional geometric artifacts (stretched textures that fix themselves if I zoom in or out).
Is your time worthless?
AMD CPUs, the 3D cache variants in particular, are especially good for gaming. Radeon graphics cards aren't as good as the top of the line NVIDIA cards but depending on your price point they may still be a good deal.
If you don't care about RT or upscaling
Intel GPUs are AIDS right now for driver support and AMD/Nvidia have turned the currently relevant GPU market into a bet on what developers will do with ray tracing in the coming years, with AMD being the best buy for pure raster gaming unless you have 4090 (hopefully 4080 super beats the XTX too) money or really like certain Nvidia-favored games.
rtx 4090 cost $2000
7900xtx cost $900
Now post the RT benchmarks.
AHHHHHH
This is all slideshow tier anyway. Maybe next gen, right guys?
> Cyberpunk creates Path Tracing and puts it into their games
> nobody doing these comparasion tests ever turns on Path Tracing, they all still use Ray Tracing only
lol
can't be helped since that review is many months old
>Performs as well as a 3090 in meme tracing
>Almost on par with 4090 for raster
>Costs significantly less than 4090
>This is supposed to be bad
I dont get it. It's more than enough for any RTX title except CP 2077 with path tracing, a mode that often looks worse than raster + regular RTX.
all things considered it just feels bizarre that you can buy a full amd near top of the line gayman pc for the cost of a 4090 alone
>Almost on par with 4090 for raster
Yeah that's a cope. It gets destroyed by the 4090 in most games, the XTX competes with the RTX 4080 in reality, while drawing 100+ more watts and being useless for RT/AI.
Huh. you're right, I just glanced at a few games instead of looking at the average. Thing is, it's still beating the 4080 in raster and it's within striking distance for ayy tracing while costing a third less.
>A hundred more watts
Beating the 4080 for a hundred watts sounds fine. And if you're happy to settle for 4080 equivalent performance you can down clock and undervolt.
>AI
Yeah, if you want serious AI don't buy AMD. That said it's still fine for generating coom pics i.e 90% of local AI's current use cases. If you're not a researcher/professional/coomtard it's probably fine.
>turns on DLSS and hits 100fps+
gg
the future is not hardware
at the point you're turning your display into melted slop you're better off turning down the resolution manually
why would you benchmark something that only a few select tech demos have?
>no RT
>all good
>turn on RT
Game looks barely different but with a crippled FPS regardless of hardware
I'll stick with AMD for now, thanks.
Hell nah
AMD works great with PopOS! Have no problems at all - with Windows 11 I have a frick ton of problems/.
>muh GPU
One month in no issues whatsoever.
Must be skill issue.
it looks transgender
why does it still wear the condom?
I'm so fricking envious of people that can actually buy Yeston shit.
cute girly gpu, anon
it's been how many years since ryzen CPUs released?
>Are AMD computers good for gaming?
AMD is basically snake oil.
How are the thermals on that? It's nice looking but that shroud looks like it may impede the fans a bit
Can't say I've seen any appreciable difference from any regular GPU
all aftermarket cards at the minimum should be better than reference cards. amd cards are rated for up to 110c without error/damage.
I have a full AMD build and its just fine.
I had a novidya and intel built and it was just fine.
I only switched to AMD because I finally grew tired of windows.
The no driver crap is basically bullshit that some nvidiot shout just because they heard some other nvidiot say the same shit.
amd vs. nvidia wars on Ganker near exclusively parrot shit from ten years ago that was already being parroted in 2007 and 2008
Had this been the case, people would have been talking about MOAR CORES, Bulldozer, or the lack of high end on AMD's part.
Bullshit.
I have been using nVidia for almost 2 decades. It's hit or miss. I have a dual boot with Linux and Shitdows, and I have issues with my RX6600XT and the Shitdows install.
The meme is real and still alive. AMD drivers are fantastic on Linux machines, but they are hit or miss on Shitdows machines.
>red devil
jej
I’m still playing modern vidya on high settings, 1080p, 60fps with an AMD phenom II x6
[Headcanon]
Could have skimped on the watercooling meme for a decent air block and getting a better motherboard with a debug display, at least there is no RGB
looks like a tall cpu so it's probably goytel
he unironically needs the cooling or the damn thing will melt
Friends don't let friends by AMD. Do the needful and buy Nvidia.
Stop hoarding AMD hardware anon
no
Windows users: AMD is shit
Linux users: Nvidia is shit
Mac users: videogames?
Name one reason to use Apple tech for reasons that doesn't have to do with work
Rabid homosexuality.
since HAGS is now on AMD, Nvidia is obsolete. AMD GPUs have the more advanced GPU scheduler just like AMD CPUs have the scheduler advantage over Intel.
amd also has that "duct tape 2 7900xtxs" thing going on too, they are making actual tech advancements while goyvidia gave up when they couldn't just brainlessly keep shrinking the dies
Had to repair a anon's gaming rig with Ayymd rx 7900 shit was bussin it was like cream was coming out of the monitor
THIS IS AN NVIDIA BOARD AND DON'T YOU FRICKING FORGET IT. KNOW YOUR PLACE.
very true sir yes
Ganker is the nvidia board for all the time, very beautiful graphics to have
>Nvidia
>pajeets
Lel, meanwhile AMD just opened their biggest R&D department in India
>have a vertical mounting point
>use a cuck stand instead
just mount the card vertically man
it's one of those moronic cases with a hinged side panel to scam morons
doubt it comes with a riser and doubt OP even knows it's a thing
do cards come with the cuck stand or was that something you had to buy seperately?
what comes with the cuck vertical stand should be the case
i can't remember the last case that came with a meme sag holder
cards never come with it either unless it's extremely rare exceptions...... like OP's card which literally comes powercolor branded
>finally upgrading my old college pc from i5 3470 so i can work in blender and play more games
amd cpu + nvidia gpu is the way to go?
depends on budget. amd cpus tend to be better regardless, but if you want the best gpu and dont give a frick about the pricetag go for a 4090 / 4080. otherwise a 6700xt is good performance per dollar.
>blender
oh yeah absolutely go for NVIDIA, no reason to even consider amd radeon.
>but if you want the best gpu and dont give a frick about the pricetag go for a 4090 / 4080
lol
Even in your cherrypicked chart, the RTX 4090 beats your gAyMD shit.
If I get a ryzen CPU like the Ryzen 5 7600x, do I need to run an AIO to keep it cool? Or is there a good heatsink fan that does fine?
AIOs are a scam, just buy an air cooler and have acceptable case airflow
No, just buy a good tower cooler and keep your case ventilated. AIOs are good if you want a small meme build in a cramped case or you're running a top of the line chip that you're actively overclocking or you live somewhere where the ambient temperature is regularly above 28 degrees C
>AIOs are good if you want a small meme build in a cramped case
even in those, the outsides of the case are close enough and ventilated enough for that computer to be a test bench with some protection covers
at least on the non-shit SFF cases this is how it works
You definitely don't need a watercooler. I'm using 7800X3D in a very heat inefficient place (pocket under the table with only a single side open, radiator is nearby) with NH-D15, and that cooler is already overkill. I get 60 degrees under most load.
can't beat the gold standard brahbrah. You buy a nhd-15 and you literally never have to buy another cooler again.
the problem is an air cooler is just as good for a fraction of the price
i would also take cleaning a generic tower cooler over doing maintenance on a radiator, that shit should be enough to make anyone swear off water cooling forever
as long as you dont fall for the aio meme you won. I just prefer noctua.
are aio's pain to maintain compare to good ol wind?
short answer: YES
long answer: it really depends on your setup, but usually yes, compare a good tower cooler that at most will require you to use one of those stupid looking clips to hold in the fans or have a rail that lets you slide one in the middle of it for easy maintenance, your AIO will most likely require you do undo anywhere from 6 to 12 screws and unplug 1 to 5 cables to clean the damn thing, assuming you can wrangle it without unmounting it from your CPU, if you can't then have fun basically disassembling the entire fricking computer just to clean the radiator
this is not a joke by the way, people usually buy AIOs for SFF builds, and there's a reason most SFFgays do a single build before going back to good old ATX or stay SFF but go air, because if you think doing maintenance on a normal PC is bad, then you haven't felt suffering until you clean a SFF computer
i see, it depend how big ur case and how the aio assembly.
thx m8 for answering.
the pain in the ass comes from the fans you have to stick to the radiator
corsair is on the right track to fixing the problem with their moronic ass daisy chain fan system, but don't expect anyone else to catch up any time soon
>NH-D15
Nice, its actually a decent price too. I'll slot it into my list
No, my 6800xt is a marginal improvement from my old 1070 founders and the fsr 3.0 makes games crash when I turn it on. Nevermind the drivers randomly causing one of my monitors to stop working, I've since fixed that with no help from AMD, which assured me that the drivers were not the issue.
sounds like a lack of DDU user error
No, it was just a general driver issue, still in 2023. It was working fine for almost a year before I updated the drivers and the monitor stopped working. They wanted me to rma it before my brother recommended trying the amd cleanup utility.
You sound like one of those Gankereniuses. Get over it fanboy, in 2023 amd's drivers are still liable to brick something.
>trying the amd cleanup utility
So exactly what DDU does. So just a user error caused by a moron.
>Put new graphics card in
>Install factory software
>Update factory software
>Factory software causes monitor to stop working
>AMD tech support assures software is not the issue
>User error
Do you hear yourself?
>Don't use DDU
>Causes problem
>Blames everyone and everything but the person who didn't DDU
But how would myself or anyone else know to do that? AMD tech support didn't know that lol. It's a graphics card, it's meant to be plug and play.
So if you're asking me, NVIDIA is the better choice. Thanks autistiGanker anon.
>But how would myself or anyone else know to do that?
by following extremely basic advice basically every single tech eceleb and rando poster here would tell you when jumping across gpu brands?
>AMD tech support didn't know that lol.
they probably wrongly assumed you weren't a fricking moron and already tried to DDU
But everyone told me the problem wasn't driver related. Not only here and in Ganker, but AMD also. I very clearly explained everything I did to diagnose the issue, which included a factory reset of drivers and at no point did anyone here or at AMD say "hey the factory reset in adrenaline isn't going to cut it, use the AMD cleanup utility".
And you're still running away from the very embarrassing fact that in 2023 AMD drivers will brick shit.
>But everyone told me the problem wasn't driver related.
because it isn't, it's not a driver problem, it's a windows problem
>which included a factory reset of drivers
then you fricking lied because you didn't use DDU or the memelin cleanup but claimed you did
I didn't lie about anything, I followed all the tutorials and successfully installed the new card and software which worked fine for about a year until I updated the drivers lol. AMD sucks shit, that's it. I don't want to admit it, I fricking hate NVIDIA after 2020 but AMD is still fundamentally selling garbage lol. The state of the hardware industry is embarrassing but there's no safe haven buying AMD products, they're still fricked up. Sorry to rustle your jimmies.
FYI you will get the exact same problems going from AMD to goyvidia if you don't DDU.
I did though
hello userbenchmark enjoyer
I love their cpus, their graphics are solid but I prefer nvidia
>fricking moronic marketing and youtube shills constantly talk about pushing higher resolutions and using technology to deal with framerates
>always about ray tracing
>now about path tracing
>then some other meme technology
jesus what water are you guys drinking. 1080p is all you need.
>1080p is all you need.
with the absolute state of the industry right now 1080p 60fps native is going to be a luxury for the foreseeable future
>1080p is all you need
>playing slop and basing slop statistics to define your reality
keep seething
>what i can afford at most is all you ever need
wow, never heard an anon say that before.
So the 7800xt I have is huge. Are vertical GPU mounting frames worth the cost? I can't trust the shitty little piece of metal anti-sag bracket they gave me for horizontal mounting.
I'm happy with my 6800XT. And now fluid motion frames makes some raytracing feasible. Apart from metro exodus, they pulled some black magic there and even runs well with RT enabled
CPUs are identical to intel CPUs but cheaper but videocards are a bit worse
CPUs are good, GPUs are utter dogshit because of AMD's incompetent drivers. Play it safe and just go Intel + Nvidia tbh
would you say graphics cards are ok to buy now or wait til price drops?
wanting to get a 3060 or 3070
the prices are permanently irreparably fricked at this point and it goes double for goyvidia because of the hottest new meme that is AI shit
just buy it now
ok, no nvidia
then which amd gpu should i aim for? i just want to be able to play new shit without any having to set everything on low
what even are you upgrading off from? post specs
Cases have got fricking trap doors now?
Dunno bout their GPU's, but I'm not going back to Intel after I got Ryzen CPU. These things are stupid fast.
I have a Radeon RX 6750 XT. Might even be the same model in OP's pic. Runs games great on 1080p
Is it worth waiting for the 4070 Super over buying a 7800xt now?