>not being allowed to freely exchange goods and services and everyone living under a ruling cast of people who have total power and control over everything and take everyone's wealth is Aryan and not israeli
Literally couldnt agree more. Hit the nail on the head. Dad gamers are just trying to keep the dream alive despite being ubder the biggest pressures in the world i.e. capitalist pigs.
Just implemente a UBI
Like, holy frick this would solve 99.9% of the world's problems overnight
I will never understand why humans literally choose to suffer
Look anon I get money's isn't real and all making it kind of hard to grasp for people that don't have abstract thinking skills, but you do realize why giving everyone $1000 for literally nothing would be bad for literally everyone that doesn't have their wealth invested into real things right?
it would actually be cheaper to implement than current welfare systems since the majority of the bureaucracy of overpaid idiots and parasite job agency contractors involved in current welfare arrangements can easily be cut out
>here's an explanation of the problems but let's not fix those problems let's just torpedo the whole system
there are people with long term disability who can't work and you want them to be on the same money as workshy students and potheads
>there are people with long term disability who can't work and you want them to be on the same money as workshy students and potheads
The whole point of a UBI system is that it's a baseline that ensures survival for everyone at a minimum. You can tack more onto the UBI for certain people, and people with jobs will obviously be able to supplement their UBI with their own money as well.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>You can tack more onto the UBI for certain people
you've just re-invented the welfare system, but now you're also spending $1000*population/month MORE
anon
you
are
fricking
moronic.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You are the moronic one here. Go read actual studies about UBI. Every single one comes to the exact same conclusion, that it would be better for both the people, the governments and the overall economy.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>those same studies talk about how great money printer is when it goes brrr
Guess I'll have to repeat this every single time since everyone just loves to not listen and sniff their own farts.
Yet again, programs like UBI do the opposite of inflation and provide a deflationary pressure. If you print money then yes there is inflation -- But Yang's plan didn't call for printing money but instead a Value-Added Tax. Everyone pays in, but those who consume the most pay in the most. This tends to be the wealthier. The wealthier also spend their money slower than someone living paycheck to paycheck. Then everyone gets the same amount back: $1,000/mo. By increasing the purchasing power of the lower tier, you increase the velocity of money (how quickly the same dollar bill is spent). Each time the dollar exchanges hands economic activity is generated. The more often and quickly this happens, the more the economy grows. As the economy grows there are increased production efficiencies and more competition in the marketplace. This brings prices down. Since the total money supply didn't change, boom: deflation, not inflation. Yang isn't a politician. He has a degree in Economics from Brown and a Law Degree from Columbia. He knows this stuff, and he knows politicians from both sides aren't doing anything to help us, so he tried.
Here's a piss-simple video explaining the concept: https://youtu.be/fTZ2A_GknZM
>Denial: Capitalism good ! We're just using it wrong, it needs to be more "human" >Anger: WHY THE FRICK DO CEOs AND GOVERNMENT KEEP WORKING HAND IN HAND TO APPOVERISH THE POPULATION SO WE ACCEPT CHEAPER WORKING CONDITIONS !? DON'T THEY SEE IT MAKES US MISERABLE >Bargaining: Maybe with the right arguments we can convince those owning the means of production to go against their own interest to make a better society for everyone... >Depression: They will work us to the bone, I'll never be able to own a home, let alone retire... Why even bother having kids in such a world... >Acceptance: We need communism
>Capitalism good ! We're just using it wrong, it needs to be more "human"
Exactly right, though. Capitalism allows individual people the agency to trade their own goods or services for goods or services that they require. It's the best system for that reason alone. Corporatism is where everything goes wrong.
Communism inevitably is even worse because you hand your right to make decisions about what you may acquire and how much you may acquire to an inefficient at best, and most likely corrupt or ideologically motivated or BOTH bureaucratic body. It can maybe work on a small scale, but even in that instance small scale capitalism wins out.
Capitalism does need to be more human. What you're failing to understand is that communism, beyond the scale of a small village or something, can NEVER be human.
TLDR: imagine thinking communist leaders WON'T work you to the bone and deny you the right to own a home or retire
That's true in theory, but in practice, money is mostly used to buy imported products (everything made in China), which means money is leaving the country. We need to bring back factories and buy local
most imported products are sold by local suppliers. even if you buy direct from the supplier outside the country, you are still contributing to the economy in some way such as costs associated with logistics.
>giving everyone $1000 for literally nothing would be bad for literally everyone
people cannot contribute to the economy if they have no money to spend.
the UBI would not be for everyone, obviously, only those who are unemployed. currently these people contribute very little to the economy because they have very little money to spend. nor can these people afford to take risks to start their own businesses or other ventures that require risk. without UBI, you have people who are nothing but a drain on the economy. with UBI you create potential invested growth.
the reason why things are so fricked up has very little to do with fiat money and a lot to do with how much actual wealth, labor and time is squandered away due to mismanagement. we have homeless people at the same time as we have thousands of empty homes. we have people working 2 minimum wage jobs because 1 job isn't enough to provide a living, while at the same time, we have people who do next to do no work yet earn 100-fold what the first group earns. we have people who cannot go to the hospital to treat cheaply preventable diseases, costing society WAY MORE when they fall more ill and inevitably go bankrupt paying for the more expensive treatment. we are essentially just wasting the money that we could use on UBI by collectively being morons
i guess you can always bring up the concept of "deserve", like some people just "deserve" to live in squalor while others "deserve" to live in excess, but the truth of the matter is that the current system is immensely wasteful and we could ALL live a little bit better, rich and poor alike, if we bothered to eliminate these inefficiencies. UBI wouldn't solve everything, but it would solve a little. people would be healthier, they'd have less strain and pressure to get into illegal shit, they'd have more time to take care of their kids, and so on.
it would actually be cheaper to implement than current welfare systems since the majority of the bureaucracy of overpaid idiots and parasite job agency contractors involved in current welfare arrangements can easily be cut out
Guess I'll have to repeat this every single time since everyone just loves to not listen and sniff their own farts.
Yet again, programs like UBI do the opposite of inflation and provide a deflationary pressure. If you print money then yes there is inflation -- But Yang's plan didn't call for printing money but instead a Value-Added Tax. Everyone pays in, but those who consume the most pay in the most. This tends to be the wealthier. The wealthier also spend their money slower than someone living paycheck to paycheck. Then everyone gets the same amount back: $1,000/mo. By increasing the purchasing power of the lower tier, you increase the velocity of money (how quickly the same dollar bill is spent). Each time the dollar exchanges hands economic activity is generated. The more often and quickly this happens, the more the economy grows. As the economy grows there are increased production efficiencies and more competition in the marketplace. This brings prices down. Since the total money supply didn't change, boom: deflation, not inflation. Yang isn't a politician. He has a degree in Economics from Brown and a Law Degree from Columbia. He knows this stuff, and he knows politicians from both sides aren't doing anything to help us, so he tried.
Here's a piss-simple video explaining the concept: https://youtu.be/fTZ2A_GknZM
What the frick is $12,000 a year going to do? that doesn't solve the fundamental issues of the system that's designed to keep people in dept slavery with multi generation mortgages and millions of dollars in capital.
>I will never understand why humans literally choose to suffer
But muh... I got to suffer, so there's no reason you and the next generation coming after us shouldn't suffer too.
>projecting
Sad.
I really used to feel bad for you poorgays but if this is how you all feel, frick it.
Suffer then.
It's no chip off my block if you keep complaining about ~~*them*~~, do frick all, then go here to cry about it.
There won't be UBI, you dummy. They're just going to euthanize most people who they call the "useless class". That's why they're normalising "assisted dying" like MAID in Canada.
>inserting racial interbreeding and cuckoldry where none is even vaguely implied
get off Ganker
not even kidding, just take a break for a month or something and let your brain reset, you've been browsing too many blacked threads and it is starting to infiltrate every aspect of your life
if not being a bbc-brained moron who can only think about begging his non-existent wife to frick tyrone in front of him is being a normie, then i wouldn't want to be anything else.
have a nice day, Black person lover
>buy game for $70 >pay $50 to beat the game >pay additional $20 to unlock all achievements >uninstall the game, you've done all there is to!
Future looks bright, just imagine all the time saved!
Bully them into shutting up.
Games are made for people that play them. If you can only play an hour a day or whatever, too bad. Play Frogger instead if you don't have the ability to dedicate time to a long form game.
>bully them into not criticizing the corporation's predatory practices
That's right anon, you take blizzard's dick and let the blissful consoomerism wash over you. No need to think or care about anything.
ehh I kind of get it in this case though. if I can make the same progress as you playing 20 hours a day in one, you would stop playing and not be dedicated.
I'm not even sure what the issue here is. the dad wants in game rewards without paying or playing and thinking this is wrong is some how consoooming? I'm not even buying anything. I wouldn't ever play goyablo 4.
>at his own pace
The game has been out for 14 days and he's level 11. It takes 20 minutes to get to level 11. This dude doesn't have any "pace" at all, he is literally stuck in place.
>be dad >only have a limited time to play a week >but I still want to game >what should I play? >COD >Fortnite >Last of Us >any modern game you can jump in and jump out that doesn't require too much investment >no >no I will play the ARPG that requires 40 hours just to get to the start of the part that matters
Why do they always fricking do this? Destiny is filled with these manchildren too
Battle passes for a start. >Keep logging in and grinding to get all the things you cannot play something else or do more important things but also get all the things
I assume the seasonal content system works like Path of Exile, where your character just gets banked in a standard mode when it's over. That's fine enough if he just wants to play the game, but there's no perfect solution I can think of here that pleases everyone.
yes the problem is people playing games they dont like and whining instead of just killing themselves
Heres a trick I learned. Don't buy the battle pass. I know it's complicated. But get this right, the battlepass only contains cosmetics, right? So unless you want to play Barbie dress-up, there is literally no reason to buy it.
Life hack!
No reason to play Seasons at that point, either.
Which leads to the dumb dad's point: why play at all if the "good part" should be avoided.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Which leads to the dumb dad's point: why play at all if the "good part" should be avoided.
That's not the dad's point. The dad doesn't have a point. He just wants the developers to make it easier for him to level, because he's a shitter and a casual.
Actiblizzard and SaaS games in general are shit, but people who just want the game to play itself so that they can fit it into their limited schedule though are "people" who should just accept that not all games are for them.
Algorithmic matchmaking, sunk cost fallacies, in-game currency translation, skinner boxes, FOMO. All that fun shit.
Tangentially related, but I want to know when people accepted being called a consumer, rather than a customer.
It's a dehumanising title that shifts the perspective of respect from the person giving money for an item to whoever is providing the item, as if the customer exists only for that purpose. To consume the product.
considering that he's whining to someone from blizzard I'd say he's a consumer, not a customer. a customer knows what they're buying and a consumer just goes along with the hype
It may have been creeping in earlier. But, I really remember it taking hold in about 2010 or so. It seemed at the time that it was being forced into the language to prop up the green movement. >You are a consumer. You consume all these products that are bad for the environment. Just stop consuming so much product!
Consumers are the only ones that touch the entirety of the battlenet launcher, and by extension anything from EA or Ubisoft too, with a 100 foot pole. Customers are the ones that have high enough standards to not play actiblizzard games to begin with because they know the disappointment and frustration that is down that path before they even begin playing a new sequel from that company.
If you want to stop being called a consumer, boycott more shit, have higher personal standards and the ability to drop a game permanently no matter how much sunk cost fallacy you have towards it, instead of begging the people who have no intention of changing to change their ways. I didn't play overwatch because exactly what I expected to happen to it, happened. It's just the way Actiblizzard is, they have no intention of appeasing you.
You really don't see the issue in all your arrogance. These old homosexuals are jumping on the Diablo brand because they know it's old and it's a big deal. They know nothing about it other than it's popular and since every other game series has become creatively bankrupt it's time to jump on the next hype product.
Only they never played an ARPG and the mechanics of the ARPG don't match the modern slop they are used to. So they get mad and demand it change and resemble the slop they are used to playing.
You will get it when they invade a series you enjoy and demand changes for the worse.
about new mechanics whose sole intention is to siphon money
Their complaint has nothing to do with money israelite stop strawmanning.
I don't want you to talk down to me like I'm a child while also using the latest buzzwords as if they mean anything. "Slop".
By strictest definition of this asinine appellation, Diablo is slop. It's a shameless hamster wheel where you perform repetitive tasks to collect bigger number to find more bigger number until you have the biggest number you can possibly acquire through RNG and build optimisation.
But now on top of this, you have the modern systems of tasks and microtasks that reward returning to the wheel. >You will get it when they invade a series you enjoy and demand changes for the worse
Frick you very much, I've watched multiple genres I love get raped by corporate practice. I still wouldn't go so far as to say that gaming is dead or an utter waste of time these days, but the damage is grave and it's astonishing the levels of control people are willing to hand over to companies in exchange for their dopamine hit.
Diablo has been around as a series a lot longer than you have been alive israelite. It's been pretty consistent in its game design with every iteration making improvements but the overall foundations remain the same. People b***hing that a Diablo game is too grindy or min maxy or whatever stupid shit these morons who never played an ARPG are saying is moronic.
>Frick you very much, I've watched multiple genres I love get raped by corporate practice
So like I thought you are a dishonest misleading israelite.
>Diablo has been around as a series a lot longer than you have been alive israelite.
That's a very bold guess. I also love the irony of you screaming israelite and israelite at everybody who doesn't defend israeli player retention schemes.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>adding more content every season and a ladder system that has been around since Diablo 2 is a bad thing
God you israelites are insufferable.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>D3's RM auction house wasn't the most israeli thing to ever grace a blizzard game, the most israeli of game companies
I don't want you to talk down to me like I'm a child while also using the latest buzzwords as if they mean anything. "Slop".
By strictest definition of this asinine appellation, Diablo is slop. It's a shameless hamster wheel where you perform repetitive tasks to collect bigger number to find more bigger number until you have the biggest number you can possibly acquire through RNG and build optimisation.
But now on top of this, you have the modern systems of tasks and microtasks that reward returning to the wheel. >You will get it when they invade a series you enjoy and demand changes for the worse
Frick you very much, I've watched multiple genres I love get raped by corporate practice. I still wouldn't go so far as to say that gaming is dead or an utter waste of time these days, but the damage is grave and it's astonishing the levels of control people are willing to hand over to companies in exchange for their dopamine hit.
ARPG are perfect for short burst gameplay. >irrelevant story >instant action >short stretches between teleports >short simple quests and dungeons >fast leveling and great drops possible in a short interval
The event and battle pass shit is not just tangential, but antithetical to ARPGs. All the rewards in classic games wait however long it takes you, and drop at the whim of the dice, not when you fill enough progress bars.
>moronic mechanics that are designed specifically for always-online have been around for 25 years?
D2 release date: June 28th, 2000. The first season started in patch 1.10, which was on October 28th, 2003.
So he wasn't too far off. It's not 25 years, but 20 years instead.
seasons in D2 were introduced to fix the economy and hacked items by banishing all old characters into non-seasonal realm where there's no prestige and duped stuff became worthless
Said mechanics are shit, but the game is literally based around them. This isn't a company suddenly adding these things to a game and changing the experience, it's a game where these mechanics are there from the start. If you're time poor to the point where you have no time to play these kinds of games there are fricking countless other games you can play. This shit is the same as whiny homosexuals complaining Souls games don't have an easy mode, at some point you need to accept a game isn't for you or in this case isn't for the lifestyle you chose to lead.
>I want a 12-hour long ARPG
The only way someone unironically thinks like this is if they are so suckered in by FOMO that the only way for them to cope is by making everyone else's experience completely joyless.
The producers/developers add these mechanics because of the modern videogame audience, this is what the average gamer wants, Electronic Arts after all the evil they have done are still one of the biggest videogame companies in the market and that already says everything.
I don't play modern slop, in the case of Diablo i never liked it since it was always slop. And yes they do like those things, gamers always liked their games to have a sense of progression, decades ago progression=having RPG mechanics in your non-RPG game, in these days progression=unlocking a new skin/lootbox/getting a new item you won't ever need
I'm not going to defend blizzard and fomo mechanics but it was public knowledge that the game was gonna be a fomo train with a cash shop, battle passes and all that jazz while also being pay 2 play.
A 5 minutes google search is enough to find that information. If people can't spend 5 minutes to get some info before buying something they deserve even more hate than blizzard because it's fricking morons like them who have been enabling the state of the gaming industry. Frick casual shitters and gambling addicts.
>predatory player retention mechanics >aka being expected to play more than 1 hour a day
lol
To be fair a 70 dollar game with a purchasable battlepass should not require more than an hour of playing a day to progress it.
They already have my money. I'll keep my time.
you'd be expected to play more on the weekdays, i think it's utterly baffling to think basically any game with more than 11 hours of content is too much anyway
>predatory player retention mechanics >aka being expected to play more than 1 hour a day >lol
yes? if your game attempts to get players addicted so they'll spend more money and time on your product it's predatory.
I don't think games like diablo should even be allowed to exist. they're objectively not games and designed to simply get brainlets hooked. we need to protect the underclass from their israelite overlords.
expecting someone to play your game in a grindy genre for 1 hour a day is not predatory >I don't think games like diablo should even be allowed to exist. they're objectively not games and designed to simply get brainlets hooked.
ok so don't play it, but don't pretend that a diablo game should only have 10 hours of content in it either
>no I will play the ARPG that requires 40 hours just to get to the start of the part that matters
Do you want to know the secret of why diablo 4 is shit while diablo 2 was good?
He literally has not played that character for more than two hours, so if that is the timeline that we are working with, Fortnite isn't going to be good for him either since there is no way that he will ever be able to complete a season (which is what he is b***hing about). He would probably not even make it through the first tier of the battlepass.
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PLAY THIS TYPE OF GAME
arpgs are a boomer game
but these spastics WANT the long kino slow digestion games to be catered to them like they're zoomers
its the fricking devs fricking fault for doing this
kill all devs
mutilate all devs
The moment I had a kid I had mostly given up gaming. I just come here to keep up with the news. If you have a kid and still game you are setting a bad example for your kid.
MAU for this game are going to tank, lol. The casual audience is not going to put up with this shit. There's heaps of people in that thread going "Is this your first ARPG?" Yes. For a lot of people, the answer is yes.
It's also pretty predatory that they sold the battle pass as part of the ultimate edition without it being clear that it would be subject to these shenanigans.
Hope it's worth shit-canning the recurring revenue to cater to a bunch of NEETs.
>It's also pretty predatory that they sold the battle pass as part of the ultimate edition without it being clear that it would be subject to these shenanigans.
No one is forcing you homosexuals with no self control to buy anything but the standard edition. Holy shit what low self control you buttholes have blaming others to force you to get the deluxe edition.
I didn't even buy the game, you stupid failed abortion. But the marketing for this game attempted to shove the Ultimate edition down your throat at every point. Every single other battle pass doesn't turn around and go:
"Yeah, back to square one with you."
Blizzard were quick to trumpet how successful this game was, and that was due to catering to normies. They won't even whisper about how its MAU nosedive because people don't have time for this bullshit.
TL;DR: homosexual game is for homosexual NEETs.
defending battle passes is simping
they're horrible FOMO-driven timesinks in every game they're in
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not that guy, but what is actually wrong with "FOMO" in an ARPG with seasons? If there was no kind of FOMO, then there wouldn't be any reason for seasons to exist, and thus an ARPG just kinda dies because now you can complete the game and then there's never anything new, due to no resets.
I agree with him tbh. This is a big problem for seasonal shit like Tarkov or otherwise games that expect you to devote a huge amount of time like Dota or CS or even a battle royale (so you don't die immediately).
Gaming has gotten so predatory with progression systems to get you hooked that there's no good pick up and play multiplayer games anymore. It's a lifestyle
>spend hundreds of hours autistically leveling, filling out you end game board thing, gearing up and spending boatloads of money/mats on rerolls on a single character >you cannot engage in any of the update content with that character
WHEW LAD
>>you cannot engage in any of the update content with that character
This is wrong. That seasons content will fold into the non seasonal queue once the season is over. The boomer can do that seasons new stuff with his old character he just has to wait 3 months
only way to deal with them is gatekeeping and blizzBlack folk wont do it cause d4 is made for casuals
enjoy your dad gamers turning your game into mobile tier shit
dumb homosexuals who have never played an arpg. you want to log in at lvl 100 kill whatever new boss they add then quit? resets are mandatory for keeping the game interesting long time. d2 would not have lived as long as it has without ladder resets. this cancer shit twitter homosexual opinion is what you get when you market your game to as many people as possible. thank frick poe exists
This system is exactly the same as older Diablo games. They only added MTX shit you don't have to buy and you still get the same free experience you get like in older games
>resets are mandatory for keeping the game interesting long time.
Only fricking schizos believe this.
I remember when Anthem had a bug and people were actually enjoying themselves and then BioWare went "Oh, no, if we let you have fun you'll get bored and quit."
Guess what happened after they fixed it? Everyone got bored and quit.
It's honestly no wonder that ARPGs remain a niche genre. Even PoE, which is goddamn free, can barely pull half of L4D2's figures.
how is that relevant at all, even if that's true about anthem? without seasons, the absolute most you can do in an arpg is hit max level on every class and then quit. if you want to play a game once and then quit then good for you, do that, but arpg fans want a game to sink 1000 hours into.
What's the point in gaining power if it gets flushed after 3 months? At that point you're just an addict looking for a dopamine hit. "Oooooo, the numbers went up again!"
If you're gonna be that pathetic, just do it properly and do drugs.
11 months ago
Anonymous
the progression is the fun part. once you cap out and you stop feeling progress, you quit. without fail, every time. everyone does this. it's like when you were a kid putting cheat codes in gta and having fun for 20 minutes then getting bored.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Fricking progression-addicted gamers are the worst fricking blight on gaming. I hate your kind more than I hate the fricking diversity hires that litter games with nogs and trannies.
Play the games for fun, enjoyable gameplay, not "Hurrrr, numbers go up!"
You don't see people bailing on Street Fighter II after 30 years, and that's because those people understand that mastery isn't something that's tracked discretely.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Are you genuinely moronic? This is the numbers go up genre. You can go complain about this for other developers implementing it or something but these games are specifically for people that find everything around designing, implementing and maximizing your characters numbers to be the fun part. You don't see people bailing on Diablo 2 after 20 years either.
11 months ago
Anonymous
dumbfrick, getting good at a fighting game over years IS progression. how it's tracked is irrelevant. if you master a game you will quit it as you will get bored.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Point is, moron, that no one masters a fighting game. But apparently you all hit 100 in these homosexual clickfests and your ADHD-riddled brains need a new dopamine hit.
have a nice day, please.
11 months ago
Anonymous
if that's true why change fighting game when a new one comes out? street fighter 6, tekken 8, mortal kombat, if the games are fun forever and you can never master it why not just play tekken 7 forever? because a reset is fun. new things to learn, new metas, fresh progression. that's why people like resets, starting from zero is satisfying. everytime poe gets a meta shakeup it's exciting to try new shit
11 months ago
Anonymous
pseud
11 months ago
Anonymous
>But apparently you all hit 100
actually a very small percentage of arpg players ever hit 100 more than 1 time
in poe almost no one does it except for streamers and shit
and even then most of the time they get to max like 90 and get bored and make a new character that plays the game slightly differently
and the same goes for diablo 4
i doubt more than 1% of the total active player base has hit 100 one time.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Fricking progression-addicted gamers are the worst fricking blight on gaming
but thats what video games are anon?
you do a thing and you move forward and do another thing and then progress to the next level.
name 1 popular game where you do not move forward or progress in any way, either in terms of the game or individual skill level.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anything on Playstation.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Play the games for fun, enjoyable gameplay, not "Hurrrr, numbers go up!"
anon you're in a diablo thread. we're 5 games into the franchise now and numerous clones.
you may not be aware but diablo has no gameplay. the entire game is left clicking until a pair of magical panties drop which you then wear for 10 minutes until new magical panties drop. the number going up IS the entire game.
>It's honestly no wonder that ARPGs remain a niche genre.
feel free to frick off from my game then and go shove gabe newells wiener up your ass sideways, I don't care if you don't like things about a genre you don't play
I too hate how modern games deliberately waste your time so you buy more. Modern games are designed to be more depressing versions of one arm bandits.
Therefore the guy is in the right, Blizzard shills please have a nice day. That includes you OP, especially you OP, your death would bring me a lot of pleasure.
arpg's are so shit. it's like playing a new playthough on a souls game, but this time you play dex instead of strength, and you still play the game exactly like a strength character because mechanically there is almost no difference.
why is the reading comprehension on this board so poor?
like you just repeated what he said but you think you're disputing him, because you cannot read. You fail at reading. How? How can you possibly fail at reading?
you know who fails at reading. Black folk. I sincerely doubt you're a Black person, so what the frick is your excuse. there are porch monkeys who can read at a higher level than you. Literal fricking Black folk can read better than you? how do you live? how do you wake up everyday being dumber than a fricking Black person?
>why is the reading comprehension on this board so poor?
Have you seen the grammar some of these morons have?
They've all flunked their 3rd grade Intro to English.
Along with them purposefully misinterpreting your statement so they can pretend that the argument is still happening.
>level 11, 2 weeks after release >claims he can only play 1 hour per day >you can get to level 20 in like 1 hour
Is this guy just straight up lying or is he genuinely completely braindead at the game?
These guys should pick up a different hobby if you are literally the meme of "I have 35 kids and can only play for 5 seconds a day" guy. You could genuinely get more done reading or doing woodwork I'm sure. Or manage your time better.
>level 11 after the game has been out for like 14 days
You can literally gain 1 level every 5-10 minutes at that level. What the frick is he doing? The scenario in that tweet HAS to be made up.
Maybe he actually takes his time talking to everyone in town and reading all the dialogue. But still that would unlock quests that quickly get you up. So no clue.
ive literally played like 10 hours of diablo 4 since it came out and am level 25 on 2 characters. if you are only level 10 at this point then you obviously wont care about seasonal fomo shit
35 and been a dad for 4 years.
My autistic "Games to play" schedule went right out the window and I was in a deep depression for months when I realised how important gaming had been to my life and personality.
I got over it though and now I complete maybe 3 good single player games a year, Elden Ring alone took 9 months.
The power went out for 2 days and I went into a deep dark place because I realized literally everything in my life is tied not just to video games, or the internet, but to electricity in general. I tried reading a book but I couldn't get over the feeling that I hated my life because I had nothing to show I existed that represented the life I lived.
Kinda crazy how games still aren't categorized on time commitment.
Fallout 3 was designed so you can play it anytime and find something quick to do.
New vegas has a long narrative and I've only met other nerds like me who beat it in real life
Dads fall in the call of duty and fallout 3 camp. Games with no commitment and plenty of acitivities that don't bullshit your time. Blizzard stopped appealing to casuals way back in 2010 to focus on the autistic raid trannies, (and they've been on the decline ever since)
miss out on what? cosmetics? for a game you don't care about playing anyway or you would be playing the reason regardless of unlocks? so fans should not be rewarded for playing the game regularly because you only want to play once every 2 years for a weekend? frick off
yes, limited time cosmetics are FOMO and they are a predatory mechanic >fans should not be rewarded for playing the game regularly
lol, fricking "rewarded" for giving more of your time to Blizzard
you really are deepthroating corporate dick. It's so sad.
>giving more of your time to Blizzard
you're the one with corporate dick on the brain. i play games if they are fun regardless of who sells them. i value my own enjoyment more than some political agenda. it's nice to have a goal to work towards in each season. if you're so fricking autistic that an exclusive transmog is enough to force you to play a game you don't like for 20 hours then you have major mental problems
11 months ago
Anonymous
> i play games if they are fun regardless of who sells them
Sounds to me like you play games to 'be rewarded' for putting in more time than other people like a good little consumer >political agenda
And this just means you don't have standards and all you care about is getting your dopamine fix. It's not a 'political agenda' to want games to be less relentlessly shit and predatory, it's wanting games to be better as opposed to just shoveling slop into my mouth like you do. >if you're so fricking autistic that an exclusive transmog is enough to force you to play a game you don't like for 20 hours then you have major mental problems
FOMO doesn't work on me, but it's still a disgusting practice
Babies literally just eat, sleep, shit and repeat. It's extremely easy to find time to play a game like Diablo 4 where each dungeon run is like 5 minutes at most.
And being forced to play an agonizing amount of hours of the game in order to not miss out on items, paying for the privilege, then starting all over again every three months, is fun?
i don't think battle passes are good, but in general many playeres want games with a little more depth and you need to invest time in those.
if you make games for dads they're always going to be the most braindead shit.
Time gated grinding slog is not depth
Dads can easily go back to something like D2 and not feel forced to play or missing out
11 months ago
Anonymous
true, but getting the best items in d2 is a tough grind as well
11 months ago
Anonymous
But you can always go back and try to get that drop again. after this battle pass ends, you can never obtain that content again. aka, the antithesis of Diablo
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Dads can easily go back to something like D2 and not feel forced to play or missing out
Are you unaware that D2 also had ladder seasons?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Optional
11 months ago
Anonymous
d4 seasons are optional too.. by the way d2 has ladder-only items. oh no! fomo!
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Optional
Exactly like Diablo 4's seasons.
ladder is the same content, new character
season is new content, new character
>Do these morons want to just...play a maxed out character?
Yes. Games only start being fun once I am strong enough to annihilate everything on the screen with no effort and nothing can harm me. >5 shotting bosses is fun when you're chasing loot, its not fun and mind numbingly boring when you've maxxed.
What you call boring I call fun. Having to lose all my progress every 3 months would make me quit instantly and permanently the first time it happens. Once I finally reach the summit I want to stay there forever.
You are literally not going to play the game once you've finished your character and have no more power or loot to chase.
You are not going to run dungeons 'for fun', you're not going to farm helltides 'for fun'. You can pretend otherwise, but when you don't ever have to pick up any loot, because its all unnecessary, the entire design of the game is absent.
Everything is built around getting loot, when you finish that treadmill, the game is done.
Not that guy you are talking to, but to me the building your character part is just the first phase. Second phase is competing on leaderboards. Unfortunately D3 won't have those until season 2 or 3 though.
i mean what the frick is the alternative? >no no paul you can bring your level 100 maxed out character and full stash and max renown right into season 1 and get burnt out in 2 days because there is nothing actually new to do that isnt made trivial by your max level character and bis gear.
i mean actually what the frick did these people expect.
were they tricked into buying and playing this game?
did they not play diablo 3?(one of the best selling games of all time)
The simple answer to this is to not play games with battle passes. You're never going to get them to stop monetizing games in this way, and you can't play the game on their terms because of your obligations, so don't give them money for it.
but the same thing happens with diablo 3 and path of exile.
and will happen with last epoch
(i dont know about troony ark, never played it)
if you want to play a modern arpg you will have to deal with seasonal resets.
I never played diablo 4 or 3, but "seasonal questline" sounds like it's some optional shit. If the guy has so little time maybe he shouldn't focus on timed optional shit, the way he phrased his question it sounds like he intended from the get go to just ask a gotcha question.
I'm been more and more frustrated with older gamers in general.
So many people cope with age by becoming casual defeatists, and that would be fine, but it doesn't stop there. They also cope by developing a weird sense of superiority over being a casual player, like the only way they can reckon with the fact that they've given up on enjoying struggling with games the way they used to is by internalizing it as having been the wrong way to enjoy games at all. I see this everywhere.
I notice it in my friends, they were always shit at games, but as they got into their 30's they try to blame it on their age and take this more casual approach to everything, but it really just means they use it as an excuse to never try anything or actually improve anymore. It's real annoying these homosexuals act like they're 90 at 34
Dude should be playing Immortal, the gameplay loop is so short that it's ideal for his kind.
Why is he trying to play a hardcore game while being a casual when the casual friendly alternative already exists and is called Immortal.
Multiplayer gaming is anti consumer since the game experience will vary according to stuff like how many people are playing or the skill of said people, like one day all multiplayer games will be unplayable or at the very least unplayable in their original form, something that doesn't happen in singleplayer titles unless they have MP features like Dark Souls
i have just started to do this
like i get to maybe half way just by playing when i want to and then say nah and play something else
but before i would force myself to grind xp to finish it.
But the developers are putting in time developing the battle pass instead of content for the base game. By ignoring the pass you are missing out, not getting the full experience you otherwise paid for. Ignore the game completely, and play something else instead that values you as a customer.
Twitter posts >99.99% of his posts have 0 engagement >crying on Twitter about a game not catering to his specific needs and wants >living life correctly
Nah.
never buying or playing diablo 4 but homosexuals that say they don't have time for a game should be imprisoned. They are the very reason in-game purchases exist. Guess what? I can't buy a 10 million dollar mansion, so why did they make the price 10 million? I can't afford it!
Their issue is that they are uninformed consoomers, they could easily just play something else but no THEY MUST play Diabloslop 4 or else they feel like they are missing out.
People who buy in game purchases are the reason in game purchases exist. Nothing wrong with complaining about games not respecting your time (especially if they do it deliberately to try and monetize you)
You are DESPERATE to defend this. You can play a fricking ARPG with its grindy mechanics and shit without having your time disrespected by forced engagement practices you disingenuous c**t. Stop trying to defend Blizzard's practices and stop trying to defend your own eager consumption of them.
Diablo 2 doesn't have fricking in-game purchases which is what I was talking about when you decided to have your all caps tantrum. I have no problem with Diablo 2. A game taking a lot of time doesn't mean it disrespects your time. Diablo 4 is cancer, which it seems we both agree on.
except diablo 3 was ULTRA casualised and d4 has been going in the same direction and was marketed out the ass to every single person on earth with an internet connection.
they really dont care how much you play as long as you buy.
also the paul c**t says he has 4000 hours between d2 and d3 but never made a seasonal character and has no idea how seasons work in any arpg game
sounds like a grade A moron to me. >writes about video games for forbes and has been a destiny simp for a decade
yeh that checks out.
>he has 4000 hours between d2 and d3 but never made a seasonal character and has no idea how seasons work in any arpg game
bro that's literally me..... Seriously, I just did an Ice Sorc in D2 last year and multishot DH in D3 a few months ago and I have no idea what this shit is, probably because leaderboards seem like exceedingly boring content to me
he also went on to say he has 12 maxed characters in d3
which if you have played d3 doesnt actually mean anything.
i tried skimming through but he tweets like a fricking schizo
something about him trying a seasonal character but "didnt get it" or "didnt like it" or something and never played seasonal again.
which doesnt make sense to me
like you are fine putting 2000 hours into 12 characters that are all "maxed" but the idea of starting a seasonal character is weird????
>but the idea of starting a seasonal character is weird????
For me, if the option is "create new character" or "create new character but with limited time live service features", the former sounds a lot more appealing. Though since the "good" stuff gets added to expansions anyway like Kanai's cube and the companion gear in the Reaper expansion, I don't really mind, I just don't partake in it.
4000hrs in d2 and d3 and he doesn't know what a ladder is lel, then he probably didn't play much diablo 2 because you had to know if you played online OR he exclusively played solo for thousands of hours but then he woudn't be saying such a moronic statement
SO he probably played diablo 2 twice in 2005 and then just played diablo 3 for 4000hrs
Did I play a different Diablo 2 from everyone else? I don't remember playing some live service GAAS with timed limited content and whatever ladders and leaderboards are that everyone else seems to love.
Can't remember if the stuff was eventually dropped in the original or not.
D2R has some new stuff that is ladder only, but it may be enabled to nonladder after 2 or so seasons pass, as new ladder only things get added. It's not much anyway.
Eh, I can understand why. It's like all those PVP updates in Souls games, a PVE player will see it as wasted development time. Someone that doesn't want to play Diablo weekly will likely see seasons the same way. I can't even fault them, and I can understand wariness, fomo pandering makes people extremely rabid and defensive of the game they "dedicate themselves to", like gacha and MMO players.
>fomo pandering makes people extremely rabid and defensive of the game they "dedicate themselves to", like gacha and MMO players.
obviously, you see it every D4 (or any Blizzshit) thread
>israeli player retention tricks (battle passes, season-based content, matchmaking, etc.)
gay and cringe >parents/wagies/etc. who complain about long games "not respecting their time" or whatever
ALSO gay and cringe
If I had kids I wouldn't bother with video games and I would be more concerned about money issues and whether little Timmy will dominate in the footy this weekend or insult me with his pathetic performance again, just like I did as a kid. :^)
If you do play vidya as a parent, play it with the kid.
My uncle did this with his son and I and it was fun.
My dad didn't like any of my games except for Pilotwings 64.
Luckily, I was a sport obsessed like him. A little too obsessed even.
The guy in OPs picture is just a dishonest homosexual. A newborn baby will spend half its time sleeping. Yet this dude is talking about how he's still level 11 after the game has been out for 14 days. It literally doesn't make any kind of logical or rational sense.
You literally get to level 11 in 20 minutes. The dude is just complaining for the sake of complaining. There's probably some sort of underlying psychological issue where he feels immense regret about having a child, and then he channels that into complaining about a video game.
Where did the season craze begin anyway? I don't remember Titan Quest or Torchlight or Grim Dawn having them, but nowadays you are told "you aren't a REAL ARPG player" or "this genre isn't for you" if you don't play them. I know Path of Exile has them and Diablo 3 added them in one of it's updates, but how did it become the face of ARPGs?
This is why dads love shmups so much. You play 2 or 3 credits a day and get dense gameplay with no filler and you get one step closer to your 1cc/score goal.
>mentions a newborn in the first sentence >expresses concern about how this will impact his ability to play video games
imagine being a woman and letting such a fricking manchild impregnate you
imagine coming to the slow realization that you fricked up big time, when you get up at 3am to feed the brat, and your limpwristed hubby is still at it, grinding away
lmao
also
why does having a newborn or even a toddler stop you from playing games?
strap that b***h to your chest and game
the flashing lights will probably entertain them more than you.
>just hit level 11 after grinding all night WOOOOO >oh shit, better keep it down the missus will not be happy!
https://i.imgur.com/dwOkF7j.jpg
Are dad gamers the karens of gaming? How should we deal with them?
i don't really understand starting a new char for seasons in D4 either, 2bhwy. the game is an MMO design and NONE of that early shit like the campaign, hunting Lilith statues and exploring the fog of war etc, has any replay value whatsoever. i thought it was just gonna be new levels of gear and shit added on top for progressing our main character.
PoE is for a fresh start every league, it has infinite builds and the fresh economy, whilst a load of discord c**t shite, is important to the game.
D4 is for sticking on one character and progressing dumb "ilvl" infinitely in increasing Nightmare tiers. it's more arcade-y, and doesn't have builds. i cannot understand for the life of me wanting a fresh start.
>hunting Lilith statues
They carry over through seasons so you never need to do them again.
>exploring the fog of war
Same as above.
>PoE is for a fresh start every league, it has infinite builds and the fresh economy, whilst a load of discord c**t shite, is important to the game.
How can you write this, while then being completely against it for D4, even though it's the exact same thing, minus the economy?
i mentioned it; D4 is arcade-y and more vertical power progression, with long term systems like Paragon. you don't really have builds, the talent tree picks itself once you choose a spender.
the game uses a basic item level system (although to be fair we do have actual mods and attributes now, ilvl doesn't mean much like before, D3's stacking one mainstat). i never feel like i have THEE gear, everything feels like an interim to the next step, which is just more grinding.
With PoE there is ALWAYS another build I can start over with, and reseting the economy is rather important because it gets out of hand quick. In a league, once I kill the new league boss and kill the Maven, I feel pretty complete and there's probably not much more I can do with my character / items, unless I go autismo 500div perfect items which is pointless anyway. so in that way i feel "complete" in a league.
don't get me wrong i'd love to be proven wrong. i haven't taken part in Diablo seasons, so it depends what they offer. i'm grinding hard on "eternal severs" and enjoying it, Seasons will have to be really cool to make me wanna start over, and I really don't see it being nearly as good as a PoE league (and I've skipped plenty of PoE leagues for being shit).
Each season generally adds a new mechanic or a way to get another legendary ability or two on your build. That's why people play them, it's a slight rule change or a new system every few months. These games take a few days to get to level cap, and there isn't much to do when you do the fun of the game is building a character and gearing it up which seasons offer just enough difference to make it "interesting" a second or third time.
>These games take a few days to get to level cap
???
Blizz said it would take an average player 150 hours to get 100. Kripp doesn't even think he will make it there in that time. Zizz etc world first only got there doing autism split dungeon farms in a full group. I've never had a level 100 in PoE in like 3500 hours of playing.
The levelling in this game is painful. S1 will launch and I bet the average player won't be 60, or barely. And you want people to start all over again? Lv6 characters are stronger than Lv60. Resistances are weaker than armor for non-physical dmg. The entire power system revolves around Unstoppable, Crit, and Vuln, with 0 variation in what a good build looks like.
The game is not ready for a Season reset, it's as simple as that.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The game is not ready for a Season reset, it's as simple as that.
The last dev blog thing they did, they had a document that was 13 pages long with changes that are coming before S1. If they just nerf the XP required to level by like 30-40% every level above 80(or buff XP gains from dungeons/NMDs/events), then the leveling speed is in a good spot for 3 month duration seasons.
>Can be skipped.
so you can get straight into the non existent end game? lol >They carry over through seasons so you never need to do them again.
but map completion/side quests/ dungeons/ aspects/ strongholds dont. >Same as above.
did they talk about this in that dev stream they did? because i just started a new character and the map is all undiscovered again. >even though it's the exact same thing
it isnt, d4 dosent have builds. the only way you can play is the way the devs have planned you to play, no one invented a necro corpes explode build, the devs created it and made the game so there is essentially 1 or 2 viable builds for necro corpse explode. like in diablo 3, there were no builds in that game because every way to play was pre designed by the devs, "this season im going to play the inna's EP build" thats not what a build is, in path of exile there are actual player made builds that were not pre planned and designed by the devs.
D4's Rogue is a funny anomaly where there's a shit ton of ways to build them, all are great, all are fun to play and viable and more. Imbue? Trap? Twisting Blade? Flurry? Penetrating Shot? Rapid Fire? Even Barrage? All fun and serviceable throughout the game. Meanwhile all the others are super pidgeonholed.
He's 100% right though. Rogue is somehow the only class that actually has a bunch of specs that all feel fun. Twisting Blades is probably one of the most engaging and enjoyable abilities I've tried in 20 years of ARPGs because it actually involves thinking about trajectory/geometry.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Also multiple ways to inflict vulnerable and more, and basic attacks that are FUN to use too. Rogue's only real balancing issue is how crossbows are like 200% better than every other weapon type for them.
There's really no reason for battle passes to be time limited.
When it's time to switch it out with a new one, just put the previous one as an optional objective you can clear instead of outright removing it, so there's more "content" for new and returning players.
I had to raise my godson from his birth until almost two years old and I gotta tell ya, shit was easy. I played a solid amount of vidya, watched a ton of /m/ shit, still got my own responsibilities handled. I promise the "I have no time crowd" spend hours scrolling the internet on their phone while netflix plays their comfort show in the background as their primary timesink.
Best friend was in the army, got sent overseas right around the birth of his son, his wife was having severe post-partum mental health issues and was deemed a danger to the baby as a result so literally when the kid went home from the hospital he went with me and his was his dad for a while until everything resolved.
Yeah, the experience was positive for me. I had wanted kids before but going through that really put a lot of the fears and anxieties I had to bed. It wasn't like I loved waking up to cries in the middle of the night, there was work involved. It's also way easier than bad dads make it out to be. Absent fathers (like mine lol) are actually laughable to me at this point.
Vidya is actually a great hobby to have in between downtime when raising kids. It's cheap, it's accessible right from your home, it can be started/stopped at will for most games, and eventually you can also engage your child(ren) in it.
The only problem arises when vidya addicted parents start seeing their children as the #2 priority and vidya as their #1 priority. This is why you get all these "I CAN'T GAME ANYMORE BECAUSE I SPAWNED A CHILD". Any sane parent would never say something like that.
i understand the dad since i also went through a minor crisis few years ago.
you just have to leave it behind since there are more important things in life now.
i just play shit that i can pause, it's not that hard.
if you have a kid you should frick off and never participate in the video game community ever again unless you get divorced and lose custody, then you can be a certified gamer again
reminds me of dad gamers raiding on WoW >I simply don't have the time to look up fights, im an adult man with an adult schedule with only 15 minutes a decade to game >my dad guild will now proceed to take thrice as long to kill anything because we dont have... le time
>if you hate season pass shit, just dont play it, it doesnt affect you :^) >if you hate troon and gay shit, just dont play it, it doesnt affect you :^)
D4 literally gives you the eternal realm, where you can play forever and never join any seasons. It's not even remotely the same as devs showing troony shit into games.
Aside from blizzard, this has been a problem in many games, mainly MMOs >I don't have time to play this game, you need to make it shorter!
Frick you pathetic Black person, trying to ruin the experience for everyone else. The world doesn't revolve around your narcissistic ass. If a genre is known to be time consuming, then go fricking find another, I'm sure there are a million other games in which you will fit right in.
I have severe flat feet, so I cannot do running excercises, but there are other sports which I can do without a problem. I don't go around running communities trying to convince everyone that the average race distance should be shortened for my sake.
I fricking hate Black folk like these so much
>trying to ruin the experience for everyone else
Mindless grinding and mobile game tier progression is quite the 'experience'.
Face it. Progression needs to be streamlined. No one wants to spend hours grinding in MMOs.
Not adhd zoomers
Not boomers raising their wife's son
No one.
You need to stop being a NEET.
If I'm paying 70 bucks or a monthly fee the progression in the game better not have time gaps, arbitrary quest or other dumb shit that's just busy work or time gated.
>If I'm paying 70 bucks or a monthly fee
Here's an idea for you, since you're a stupid casual: Stop being playing games like these and go play casual games instead.
>Paying money to grind like a F2P game is a good thing
Holy shit you're moronic
11 months ago
Anonymous
You are the moronic one here. You're the one crying because a game isn't casual enough for your stupid casual ass. Just go play all the other casual games out there instead. They are specifically designed for casuals like you.
Stop strawmanning you homosexual, I am by no means defending time gated progression. I think the introduction daily/weekly systems is the cancer killing MMOs. Plus, if anything, this system is extremely good for those """dad gamers""", because it lets you play games for 30 minutes per day at most.
Aside from that, MMOs are a genre which has been built on sinking time into it. You're trying to redefine the whole fricking genre because it doesn't suit you. Stop being a narcissistic homosexual and go play games which you have the time for.
This guy could beat D2 at his own pace and miss nothing, I know because as a child it took me months to do it because I only had 1h of play time, D4 is simply shit and people attacking him for pointing out there is absolutely no good reason why this content should be time limited are cringe as frick. >here is your new content but it will only be available for a month so don't miss out!
Like what the frick man.
Are you the same type of person who gets angry at cinemas for not showing any movie you want forever? Do you scream about the FOMO of movies only being in cinemas for a certain period of time?
Video games are not movies and you can still watch the movie after it's not longer in cinema, here is a proper analogy since your suck, imagine buying a BD with movie you enjoyed, and every once in a while the director force "update" on it where some scenes are added and some are cut, now enjoy your ghost Hayden Christensen homosexual.
>no good reason why this content should be time limited are cringe as frick.
Apparently you missed the part where D2 also had seasonal-only runewords.
>google it >it's remake thing
You're only proving my point.
>imagine buying a BD with movie you enjoyed, and every once in a while the director force "update" on it where some scenes are added and some are cut, now enjoy your ghost Hayden Christensen homosexual.
You know what I would do? I would just not buy it in the first place, knowing that it would happen. This is what you low IQ chucklefrick morons don't seem to grasp. This has been known for ages, yet you are STILL surprised and you are STILL whining and crying about it.
>You're only proving my point.
https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/runewords-110.shtml
CTRL+F for "The following Rune Words will only work on the Battle.net Realms for Ladder Characters only. They will not work for single or open characters or non-ladder characters".
I have two kids and I make do, work with your fricking wife and it's a non-issue. It only gets easier as they get older. I completed more games so far, this year than I have in the last 3 in total
i encourage people to read more replies that rod gets, shit genuinely blew my mind how moronic these casuals are; they actually need to be bullied away
i immediately realized why chris wilson states they intentionally want to put off casual players by bloating the skill tree and obfuscating mechanics like vendor recipes and crafting
some game genres genuinely need to be gatekept and d4's commercial success may be its downfall if the devs listen to them
Crafting systems upgrades with a chance to fail and only brute force or getting enhancers to help with the success rate.
Is a perfect example of shit game design only there to intice you to buy shit or grind.
sure but chris is still a dumb Black person >sorry we NEED a billion worthless items dropping that NEED to be individually identified with scrolls that take up inventory space, oh and 99.99999% of drops are actually objectively worthless to you and every player so just use a filter to hide all of them
then why even drop them in the first place you bald fat moron? >we balanced hardcore around logging out at any sign of danger
what a useless homosexual.
also yes "weight" is important in video games but not in the way chris talks about it.
>then why even drop them in the first place you bald fat moron?
item filters exists you absolute worthless mongoloid
that useless item which you wouldn't even worth in trade might be useful to someone in ssf
>item filters exists you absolute worthless mongoloid
I LITERALLY SAID THAT IN THE LINE DIRECTLY ABOVE YOU FRICKING ILLITERATE c**t >that useless item which you wouldn't even worth in trade might be useful to someone in ssf
just say you dont play poe and frick off.
the solution is to instead of have an item explosion from every mob, instead have way way way less drops, and increase the quality of each drop.
filters should not be required to play the game and if they are its a sign of bad game design.
especially when the devs themselves fully acknowledge that its a problem.
other aprgs dont have this problem.
and its especially bad when the fricking lead dev constantly talks about weight as the reason why xyz qol cant happen is the same guy defending WEIGHTLESS dogshit objectively worthless for 100% of the player base items that he endorses filtering out all together.
what insane hypocrisy.
>this system has existed since over 10 years >but now I suddenly find it bad game design >it needs to be like my epic diablo lego drops!
also >especially when the devs themselves fully acknowledge that its a problem.
b***h where, they don't even think it's a problem, because it never was and it doesn't suddenly become one
also >pic related
Yeah you can eat shit homosexual
>but now I suddenly
who said that? is someone else here who said that?
diablo 3 also shits out items but its ok because all of them are identified or can be identified all at once in town
and you can dismantle entire inventories instantly
last epoch doesnt shit out items(everything drops identified anyway, and has in game loot filters but are not required at all)
titan quest does not have this problem
torchlight 1,2,3 does not have this problem.
(havent played lost ark, maybe it is a problem in that game.)
as far as i can tell poe is the only game where this is actually a big problem that is acknowledged as a problem and promptly ignored by those same devs. >it needs to be like my epic diablo lego drops!
ok you are literally fighting a straw man. >pic related
lol.
also doesnt prove shit about ssf.
and for a fact i know ssf players still use extensive item filters.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>its a problem because other games are different
not an argument, homosexual >accuses someone of not playing the game >gets proven wrong >t-this proves nothing
lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
>its a problem because other games are different
how the frick is that your take away you actual moron. >accuses someone of not playing the game
moron >t-t
"LOOK I DID THE ONIONS STUTTER MEME LOOK AT ME, AHAHAHA LOOK ISNT THAT SO FUNNY GUYS AHAHHAHA, LOOK IF I DO THIS "T-T" IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE HES A STUTTERING FOOL AHAHAHAHA"
hey champ, could you stop projecting and engage with the topic like an adult.
you literally have no counter argument to why im wrong other than being disrespectful, lying and acting like a class clown.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You don't have an argument you moron. All you're saying is >this is a bad system!
It's not, because we have loot filters >NO YOU SHOULDN'T NEED LOOT FILTERS, WE NEED TO FIX THIS PROBLEM RIGHT NOW
Imagine trying to get devs to waste time on """fixing""" a problem which is already fixed.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>You don't have an argument
you dont know what an argument is. >because we have loot filters
you are bucketing out water instead of plugging the hole. >waste time on """fixing""" a problem which is already fixed.
so you agree that is a problem that is fixed by 3rd party tools.
which would mean playing without filters means the problem isnt fixed and remains a problem.
try playing the next league without using any kind of filters and if you are annoyed or frustrated by the infinite amount of literal dogshit covering your screen you agree that it is a problem and is bad game design.
if the community has to create tools for the game it means the devs failed.
11 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, if that's your fricking moronic argument >try to play the way the game is not intended to play and see how much of a problem it is!
then I'm out
Why are you being this fricking moronic?
Also loot filters are not a 3rd party tools, only the websites you download them from are 3rd party, you stupid mongrel
Why are incels commenting on child bearing hips when they'll never have children?
Why are incels hating on father's who had children but want to pause games because their child shat the bed?
Because they're loser NEETS with 0 responsibilities
So grinding in a game all day is their job and sense of accomplishment.
They'll be damned if you take that from them
Who the frick wants to have children? They are so expensive and take up all your time. And the only thing you get back is that you get to frick them (if you have a daughter). Not worth it.
>Why are incels hating on father's who had children but want to pause games because their child shat the bed?
That is NOT what's happening here. The dude in OPs tweet is the kind of dude who wants the game to be dumbed down and casualized. If he was just asking for a pause button, then most people would agree with implementing that.
even tho i hate this new wave of dadgamers who can only play 1h a month and think their opinion is important. d4 doesn't actually feel like it was designed around having seasons, in other arpgs you only need about 4-8h to have your league starter ready to farm the endgame, here just the leveling takes about 10h if you play solo and that's just to lvl 50, then another 10-20h of sidequests and other shit to unlock your renown, i don't mind playing new seasons in games like d3 or poe but here i'm going to be burned out in s1, it's just feels i'm constantly doing chores in this game, i don't really get that in other arpgs
The XP needed to level after 80 will 100% get reduced at some point. Whether it's before season 1 or before season 2, it will happen. The XP requirement spike is too insane. No one wants to level to 100 every 3 months with these XP rates.
Seasons and battle passes are definitely garbage for the exact reasons the guy mentions. Video games shouldn't be a second job and you shouldn't FOMO elements added into the to manipulate you into playing (or paying for) them
The easiest solution especially for a 70 dollar fricking game is to allow any previous battlepass to be progressed.
The vaulting of that content is gay as frick.
Let people grind the pass on their own time. Removing/time gating content in full price titles should be illegal
Yeah there should be seasonal content for everyone and an optional ladder if you want.
The only reason I can think that they don't do this is that ladder would be a ghost town. If you had the option to keep your shit or be forced to do a single side quest ever again nobody is going to go for the restart and everyone would finish the pass in an afternoon. God forfrickingbid that happen.
this isn't a "Blizzard should let me pause the game" issue
this is a "why is this game I paid $70 for only able to be played online even when I am playing alone" issue
people who give Blizzard money deserve this.
>this is a "why is this game I paid $70 for only able to be played online even when I am playing alone" issue
No. The guy in OP is complaining about leveling being too slow, and how he has to do it again for Season 1. While he's level 11. Which takes 20 minutes to get to. 14 days after the game has released.
>I don't want children, they're too troublesome and annoying >"You spam of satan, killer of western society, nasty fricking NEET without sense of responsibility, kys!"
Why are chuds and breeders like this
To be fair a 70 dollar game with a purchasable battlepass should not require more than an hour of playing a day to progress it.
They already have my money. I'll keep my time.
>To be fair a 70 dollar game with a purchasable battlepass should not require more than an hour of playing a day to progress it.
They have said that the battle passes will take ~80 hours to complete. The seasons will last 3 months, which is 2190 hours. The guy in OPs tweet is complaining about normal leveling, while he's level 11, 14 days after release.
>That's basically two hours of playing the campaign, tops.
It's like 20-30 minutes at most. You get to 10 by just completing the tutorial right before you enter Kyovashad.
No, they are homosexuals and manchildren. I don't care they have children, they are immature homosexuals that want the world to cater to them.
If you can't play vidya because you are busy being a dad and working, then tough shit, you will get time when your kids grow and regardless you should be wanting to spend time with your kids over anything else, so only getting a bit of vidya for a while should not be a problem
How about instead of screaming at the wall you just play games you actually like? You're never going to convince these AAA corporations to change their ways as an individual, so just fricking ignore them instead of wasting your time. There's enough game content out there to last you multiple lifetimes, even if you're addicted to a specific genre. Stop being a consoomer.
>I have no time to participate in this hobby >you must cater to me
Jesus Christ. Not that I'm defending Diablo IV since anyone who actually bought it is a fricking moron
If you have a newborn child, just fricking stop playing with toys for, at the very least, the first 6 years of their lives? is that too much to ask for? put the fricking nintendo down and educate/play/take care of your newborn? you fricking idiots?
Newborn children sleep half of the day. Not sure what the frick that dad is on about. I have a feeling he's just making shit up. He's level 11 after 14 days. It takes 20 minutes to get to level 11 in D4.
As a dadTM I feel the time has come to explain to the virgins on this sub who this game is for : dads. To understand why D4 is a game for dads, and exclusively for dads, you need to understand who dads are :
First of all, by definition, dads are sex-havers. At least once in any case. Many of you won't understand, but once the P goes in the V your interest in endgame mob density is severely reduced.
Second, dads are rich. Dads spend most of their time working, which is why most have only made it half way through caracter creation. Also, kids are very cheap, seeing they eat much less than fully grown humans. This means dads have a LOT of disposable income. So you can understand dads do not care about spending 30$ to play a few days earlier or 25$ for a little wolf hat. This also signals your dad status to other dads.
Thirdly, dads profoundly dislike their spouses and argue with them all the time. Most of them are actually separated (although in a few rare cases they can be in a stable relationship a cool gamer wife / fellow sex-haver). Now what is the theme of D4? Pursuing and killing a mother who got in a disagreement with a dad. We could not relate more.
Finally, dads are nostalgic. They yearn for a time where video games were about having fun, not excel spreadsheets. They don't care that the sorcerer meta is very limited. They are just happy to be casting little bolts of lightning. Unlike you, most of them are not on Adderall and can tolerate a 10 second cooldown.
So in conclusion, please stop with all the dads vs no-lifers endless debates. This game was clearly made for dads. We have so little left, please let us have this one game.
Edit : seeing all the messages from fellow dadsTM who are touching grass and tapping ass really warms my heart. The min/maxing nerds must really feel small this morning.
>fill the map with hundreds of thingalings you need to explore and unlock to have a character that doesn't shit the bed in NM dungeons >bro just do this over and over and over and over again each season it's only like 2 weeks off your life bro just leave your job lmao
Even elden ring doesn't do that shit, you can just beeline to the items you need and ignore 90% of game and still kick ass in PvP or coop
end capitalism and we will have more time for gaming
Yeah, but the downside is there won't be any games for us to play as we're starving to death while fighting off empowered trannies and Black folk
An Aryan society would not be capitalist and we'd be a space faring civilization. Capitalism is extremely israeli in nature.
>not being allowed to freely exchange goods and services and everyone living under a ruling cast of people who have total power and control over everything and take everyone's wealth is Aryan and not israeli
Goylem cope.
Kek an Aryan society would just invite Muslims and Black folk to rape their women just like Sweden
don't ruin the fantasy for them, anon, they have nowhere else to go
Literally couldnt agree more. Hit the nail on the head. Dad gamers are just trying to keep the dream alive despite being ubder the biggest pressures in the world i.e. capitalist pigs.
Just implemente a UBI
Like, holy frick this would solve 99.9% of the world's problems overnight
I will never understand why humans literally choose to suffer
Look anon I get money's isn't real and all making it kind of hard to grasp for people that don't have abstract thinking skills, but you do realize why giving everyone $1000 for literally nothing would be bad for literally everyone that doesn't have their wealth invested into real things right?
it would actually be cheaper to implement than current welfare systems since the majority of the bureaucracy of overpaid idiots and parasite job agency contractors involved in current welfare arrangements can easily be cut out
>here's an explanation of the problems but let's not fix those problems let's just torpedo the whole system
there are people with long term disability who can't work and you want them to be on the same money as workshy students and potheads
yes. although job agency parasites should be excluded and should kill themselves
>there are people with long term disability who can't work and you want them to be on the same money as workshy students and potheads
The whole point of a UBI system is that it's a baseline that ensures survival for everyone at a minimum. You can tack more onto the UBI for certain people, and people with jobs will obviously be able to supplement their UBI with their own money as well.
>You can tack more onto the UBI for certain people
you've just re-invented the welfare system, but now you're also spending $1000*population/month MORE
anon
you
are
fricking
moronic.
You are the moronic one here. Go read actual studies about UBI. Every single one comes to the exact same conclusion, that it would be better for both the people, the governments and the overall economy.
>those same studies talk about how great money printer is when it goes brrr
cutting out the bureaucracy of means testing saves enough money that bill gates getting UBI too is fine
*there will still be tons of homeless guys getting their UBI autogarnished by a woman though
Guess I'll have to repeat this every single time since everyone just loves to not listen and sniff their own farts.
Yet again, programs like UBI do the opposite of inflation and provide a deflationary pressure. If you print money then yes there is inflation -- But Yang's plan didn't call for printing money but instead a Value-Added Tax. Everyone pays in, but those who consume the most pay in the most. This tends to be the wealthier. The wealthier also spend their money slower than someone living paycheck to paycheck. Then everyone gets the same amount back: $1,000/mo. By increasing the purchasing power of the lower tier, you increase the velocity of money (how quickly the same dollar bill is spent). Each time the dollar exchanges hands economic activity is generated. The more often and quickly this happens, the more the economy grows. As the economy grows there are increased production efficiencies and more competition in the marketplace. This brings prices down. Since the total money supply didn't change, boom: deflation, not inflation. Yang isn't a politician. He has a degree in Economics from Brown and a Law Degree from Columbia. He knows this stuff, and he knows politicians from both sides aren't doing anything to help us, so he tried.
Here's a piss-simple video explaining the concept: https://youtu.be/fTZ2A_GknZM
i'm grateful that voters will never vote for this
And I'm glad I no longer feel sympathy for poorgays or consumers
They choose to suffer and gobble garbage
>ever feeling sympathy for poorgays
el oh el
>Denial: Capitalism good ! We're just using it wrong, it needs to be more "human"
>Anger: WHY THE FRICK DO CEOs AND GOVERNMENT KEEP WORKING HAND IN HAND TO APPOVERISH THE POPULATION SO WE ACCEPT CHEAPER WORKING CONDITIONS !? DON'T THEY SEE IT MAKES US MISERABLE
>Bargaining: Maybe with the right arguments we can convince those owning the means of production to go against their own interest to make a better society for everyone...
>Depression: They will work us to the bone, I'll never be able to own a home, let alone retire... Why even bother having kids in such a world...
>Acceptance: We need communism
>Capitalism good ! We're just using it wrong, it needs to be more "human"
Exactly right, though. Capitalism allows individual people the agency to trade their own goods or services for goods or services that they require. It's the best system for that reason alone. Corporatism is where everything goes wrong.
Communism inevitably is even worse because you hand your right to make decisions about what you may acquire and how much you may acquire to an inefficient at best, and most likely corrupt or ideologically motivated or BOTH bureaucratic body. It can maybe work on a small scale, but even in that instance small scale capitalism wins out.
Capitalism does need to be more human. What you're failing to understand is that communism, beyond the scale of a small village or something, can NEVER be human.
TLDR: imagine thinking communist leaders WON'T work you to the bone and deny you the right to own a home or retire
That's true in theory, but in practice, money is mostly used to buy imported products (everything made in China), which means money is leaving the country. We need to bring back factories and buy local
most imported products are sold by local suppliers. even if you buy direct from the supplier outside the country, you are still contributing to the economy in some way such as costs associated with logistics.
china is losing it's role to mexico, china's worker pay has risen to such a degree that it's above mexicans
>human capitalism
lmao just call it socialism, that's literally what it is.
americans really are afraid of words that aren't capit*lism
Socialism is just modern feudalism.
America is already socialist.
>printing money doesn’t increase inflation
This is your brain on UBI propaganda.
>giving everyone $1000 for literally nothing would be bad for literally everyone
people cannot contribute to the economy if they have no money to spend.
the UBI would not be for everyone, obviously, only those who are unemployed. currently these people contribute very little to the economy because they have very little money to spend. nor can these people afford to take risks to start their own businesses or other ventures that require risk. without UBI, you have people who are nothing but a drain on the economy. with UBI you create potential invested growth.
the reason why things are so fricked up has very little to do with fiat money and a lot to do with how much actual wealth, labor and time is squandered away due to mismanagement. we have homeless people at the same time as we have thousands of empty homes. we have people working 2 minimum wage jobs because 1 job isn't enough to provide a living, while at the same time, we have people who do next to do no work yet earn 100-fold what the first group earns. we have people who cannot go to the hospital to treat cheaply preventable diseases, costing society WAY MORE when they fall more ill and inevitably go bankrupt paying for the more expensive treatment. we are essentially just wasting the money that we could use on UBI by collectively being morons
i guess you can always bring up the concept of "deserve", like some people just "deserve" to live in squalor while others "deserve" to live in excess, but the truth of the matter is that the current system is immensely wasteful and we could ALL live a little bit better, rich and poor alike, if we bothered to eliminate these inefficiencies. UBI wouldn't solve everything, but it would solve a little. people would be healthier, they'd have less strain and pressure to get into illegal shit, they'd have more time to take care of their kids, and so on.
What the frick is $12,000 a year going to do? that doesn't solve the fundamental issues of the system that's designed to keep people in dept slavery with multi generation mortgages and millions of dollars in capital.
Get back to work wagey.
Never mind that.
wagie wagie in a cagie
wagie wagie all days he ragey
Expecting other people to give you everything you need to survive they made themselves is both moronic and wrong.
>I will never understand why humans literally choose to suffer
But muh... I got to suffer, so there's no reason you and the next generation coming after us shouldn't suffer too.
They had UBI during covid and it's resulted in the worst inflation in decades.
That was due to the vaccine, ironically
>I will never understand why humans literally choose to suffer
That’s unironically because you’re a loser and would be looked down upon in any system.
>projecting
Sad.
I really used to feel bad for you poorgays but if this is how you all feel, frick it.
Suffer then.
It's no chip off my block if you keep complaining about ~~*them*~~, do frick all, then go here to cry about it.
Don t worry, robots and AI will end capitalism . At one point 50-60% of population will be jobless, governments will tax “robots “ to implent UBI
There won't be UBI, you dummy. They're just going to euthanize most people who they call the "useless class". That's why they're normalising "assisted dying" like MAID in Canada.
I expect some massive purges in the next several years
Gaming only exists in the first place because of capitalism.
>First Turd Fergusson destroyed Gears of War
>Then Turd Fergusson destroyed Diablo
What franchise will he btfo next?
He fricked Bioshock infinite too.
>the dad is the badguy, not blizzard
Blizzard is always the badguy
>inserting racial interbreeding and cuckoldry where none is even vaguely implied
get off Ganker
not even kidding, just take a break for a month or something and let your brain reset, you've been browsing too many blacked threads and it is starting to infiltrate every aspect of your life
It's implied via communication occurring in the English language.
You need to get off the internet, racial cuckoldry is literally living in your brain rent free, and it is not healthy.
It's the woman's job to take care of the baby. That dad is a cuckold.
and moronic homosexuals like you are the result, both parents should take care of the baby you braindead c**t
No, kys feminist. I make the money the woman can take care of the baby she doesn't do anything else.
> why did my child become a worthless piece of shit
Subhuman moron
>It's the woman's job to take care of the baby.
Enjoy your child ending up a homosexual, troony.But lets be real, your bloodline is ending with you.
>he wants his child to be raised EXCLUSIVELY by a woman
Fatherless behavior is apparently cyclical.
i call it brain rot
ironically you are far more unhinged for replying to joke like that
>I'm only ironically obsessed with cuckoldry and bbc
sure buddy
>randomly brings up black penises
everything alright?
>dude why the heck are you bringing up black dick in a conversation about tyrone fricking my wife and me raising his kid???
all unironic behavior begins in irony
look at this normalhomosexual
go home boy
>frogBlack person calling others normalgay
if not being a bbc-brained moron who can only think about begging his non-existent wife to frick tyrone in front of him is being a normie, then i wouldn't want to be anything else.
have a nice day, Black person lover
The discord trannies seethed at him because he told them the truth
based dad
seasonal fomo battle pass dailies are cancer
He can always pay to unlock them and skip the weekly grind 🙂
>buy game for $70
>pay $50 to beat the game
>pay additional $20 to unlock all achievements
>uninstall the game, you've done all there is to!
Future looks bright, just imagine all the time saved!
He consoomed so he is now happy
i hope that guy gets raped to death by a feral pack of Black folk, that woukd mske me happy
Bully them into shutting up.
Games are made for people that play them. If you can only play an hour a day or whatever, too bad. Play Frogger instead if you don't have the ability to dedicate time to a long form game.
>bully them into not criticizing the corporation's predatory practices
That's right anon, you take blizzard's dick and let the blissful consoomerism wash over you. No need to think or care about anything.
ehh I kind of get it in this case though. if I can make the same progress as you playing 20 hours a day in one, you would stop playing and not be dedicated.
I'm not even sure what the issue here is. the dad wants in game rewards without paying or playing and thinking this is wrong is some how consoooming? I'm not even buying anything. I wouldn't ever play goyablo 4.
I think the guy just wants to be able to take part in seasonal content at his own pace.
>at his own pace
The game has been out for 14 days and he's level 11. It takes 20 minutes to get to level 11. This dude doesn't have any "pace" at all, he is literally stuck in place.
I look and act like this
I'd like to cum on your face
>twitter
>"Karen"
>paragraphs
nah
Phonecucks get out
So every few months you get to replay the game in a way that feels different from your previous runs
And morons complain???
It's a israeli ploy to get you to spend 30 shekels on a battle pass every 3 weeks. There's no good reason for it
midwid brainlets like you are their target audience.
Imagine not seeing the issue here
>he thinks it's a different experience because they tweaked some backend numbers
Level 11? Dude is playing like 1 minute per day or something
That's what he gets for having me kids! No time to himself ^_^
You know who taught me this the most.
My father.
This was reinforced by my sisters pet child. The cycle is absurd and inhuman nowadays.
>be dad
>only have a limited time to play a week
>but I still want to game
>what should I play?
>COD
>Fortnite
>Last of Us
>any modern game you can jump in and jump out that doesn't require too much investment
>no
>no I will play the ARPG that requires 40 hours just to get to the start of the part that matters
Why do they always fricking do this? Destiny is filled with these manchildren too
actually the manchildren are the ones willing to grind
Why are so many of you homosexuals playing a genre you clearly have no interest in?
not him but grindy games should exist. you should be forced to do something else.
They do. It's called free to play games.
Grindy pay 2 play is just evil
>The problem is the people complaining about predatory player retention mechanics, not the israelites who force the mechanics in the first place
>predatory player retention mechanics
Like what?
Battle passes for a start.
>Keep logging in and grinding to get all the things you cannot play something else or do more important things but also get all the things
I assume the seasonal content system works like Path of Exile, where your character just gets banked in a standard mode when it's over. That's fine enough if he just wants to play the game, but there's no perfect solution I can think of here that pleases everyone.
israeli hands typed this post.
Battle pass is not what that boomers is whining about israelite. Nice pilpul.
...the dad was replying to a tweet about season-gated content including a battle pass. Are you this stupid?
It's effectively the same thing.
Hell, they even specifically refer to a battle pass in the tweet.
Heres a trick I learned. Don't buy the battle pass. I know it's complicated. But get this right, the battlepass only contains cosmetics, right? So unless you want to play Barbie dress-up, there is literally no reason to buy it.
Life hack!
No reason to play Seasons at that point, either.
Which leads to the dumb dad's point: why play at all if the "good part" should be avoided.
>Which leads to the dumb dad's point: why play at all if the "good part" should be avoided.
That's not the dad's point. The dad doesn't have a point. He just wants the developers to make it easier for him to level, because he's a shitter and a casual.
Actiblizzard and SaaS games in general are shit, but people who just want the game to play itself so that they can fit it into their limited schedule though are "people" who should just accept that not all games are for them.
Algorithmic matchmaking, sunk cost fallacies, in-game currency translation, skinner boxes, FOMO. All that fun shit.
yes the problem is people playing games they dont like and whining instead of just killing themselves
the consumer is always at fault
Tangentially related, but I want to know when people accepted being called a consumer, rather than a customer.
It's a dehumanising title that shifts the perspective of respect from the person giving money for an item to whoever is providing the item, as if the customer exists only for that purpose. To consume the product.
considering that he's whining to someone from blizzard I'd say he's a consumer, not a customer. a customer knows what they're buying and a consumer just goes along with the hype
It may have been creeping in earlier. But, I really remember it taking hold in about 2010 or so. It seemed at the time that it was being forced into the language to prop up the green movement.
>You are a consumer. You consume all these products that are bad for the environment. Just stop consuming so much product!
Consumers are the only ones that touch the entirety of the battlenet launcher, and by extension anything from EA or Ubisoft too, with a 100 foot pole. Customers are the ones that have high enough standards to not play actiblizzard games to begin with because they know the disappointment and frustration that is down that path before they even begin playing a new sequel from that company.
If you want to stop being called a consumer, boycott more shit, have higher personal standards and the ability to drop a game permanently no matter how much sunk cost fallacy you have towards it, instead of begging the people who have no intention of changing to change their ways. I didn't play overwatch because exactly what I expected to happen to it, happened. It's just the way Actiblizzard is, they have no intention of appeasing you.
>If I like it you're a customer
>If I don't like it you're a consumer
You really don't see the issue in all your arrogance. These old homosexuals are jumping on the Diablo brand because they know it's old and it's a big deal. They know nothing about it other than it's popular and since every other game series has become creatively bankrupt it's time to jump on the next hype product.
Only they never played an ARPG and the mechanics of the ARPG don't match the modern slop they are used to. So they get mad and demand it change and resemble the slop they are used to playing.
You will get it when they invade a series you enjoy and demand changes for the worse.
>they jumped on bandwagon for thing because it's old
>complain about new mechanics whose sole intention is to siphon money
you sound moronic
about new mechanics whose sole intention is to siphon money
Their complaint has nothing to do with money israelite stop strawmanning.
Diablo has been around as a series a lot longer than you have been alive israelite. It's been pretty consistent in its game design with every iteration making improvements but the overall foundations remain the same. People b***hing that a Diablo game is too grindy or min maxy or whatever stupid shit these morons who never played an ARPG are saying is moronic.
>Frick you very much, I've watched multiple genres I love get raped by corporate practice
So like I thought you are a dishonest misleading israelite.
>Diablo has been around as a series a lot longer than you have been alive israelite.
That's a very bold guess. I also love the irony of you screaming israelite and israelite at everybody who doesn't defend israeli player retention schemes.
>adding more content every season and a ladder system that has been around since Diablo 2 is a bad thing
God you israelites are insufferable.
>D3's RM auction house wasn't the most israeli thing to ever grace a blizzard game, the most israeli of game companies
>jews are shilling in a thread about diablo
I don't want you to talk down to me like I'm a child while also using the latest buzzwords as if they mean anything. "Slop".
By strictest definition of this asinine appellation, Diablo is slop. It's a shameless hamster wheel where you perform repetitive tasks to collect bigger number to find more bigger number until you have the biggest number you can possibly acquire through RNG and build optimisation.
But now on top of this, you have the modern systems of tasks and microtasks that reward returning to the wheel.
>You will get it when they invade a series you enjoy and demand changes for the worse
Frick you very much, I've watched multiple genres I love get raped by corporate practice. I still wouldn't go so far as to say that gaming is dead or an utter waste of time these days, but the damage is grave and it's astonishing the levels of control people are willing to hand over to companies in exchange for their dopamine hit.
You write like a child so you will be called a child. Understand?
>RNG and build optimisation.
welcome to isometric arpgs.
Colloquially knowns as hack n slash, you don't do much other than getting a better build.
have a nice day.
Not even joking, find a sharp object and cut your veins open.
ARPG are perfect for short burst gameplay.
>irrelevant story
>instant action
>short stretches between teleports
>short simple quests and dungeons
>fast leveling and great drops possible in a short interval
The event and battle pass shit is not just tangential, but antithetical to ARPGs. All the rewards in classic games wait however long it takes you, and drop at the whim of the dice, not when you fill enough progress bars.
t. got into diablo with path of exile
have a nice day you moronic turdie
Diablo is the bandwagon game though, everything you said could apply to the genre as a whole. Diablo fans were the only people defending Diablo 3.
You're welcome to play any other genre. These systems have been a part of ARPGs for almost 25 years now?
>These systems have been a part of ARPGs for almost 25 years now
>25 years now
wHAT THE FRICK
>25 years now
moronic mechanics that are designed specifically for always-online have been around for 25 years?
anon, it's not good to tell lies
>moronic mechanics that are designed specifically for always-online have been around for 25 years?
D2 release date: June 28th, 2000. The first season started in patch 1.10, which was on October 28th, 2003.
So he wasn't too far off. It's not 25 years, but 20 years instead.
seasons in D2 were introduced to fix the economy and hacked items by banishing all old characters into non-seasonal realm where there's no prestige and duped stuff became worthless
Anyone can play games. But games are not for everyone.
But it's Blizzard so it's a-ok to shit on them.
Said mechanics are shit, but the game is literally based around them. This isn't a company suddenly adding these things to a game and changing the experience, it's a game where these mechanics are there from the start. If you're time poor to the point where you have no time to play these kinds of games there are fricking countless other games you can play. This shit is the same as whiny homosexuals complaining Souls games don't have an easy mode, at some point you need to accept a game isn't for you or in this case isn't for the lifestyle you chose to lead.
>I want a 12-hour long ARPG
The only way someone unironically thinks like this is if they are so suckered in by FOMO that the only way for them to cope is by making everyone else's experience completely joyless.
The producers/developers add these mechanics because of the modern videogame audience, this is what the average gamer wants, Electronic Arts after all the evil they have done are still one of the biggest videogame companies in the market and that already says everything.
Black person nobody likes these things, they put these things in because morons like you bloat average play time.
I don't play modern slop, in the case of Diablo i never liked it since it was always slop. And yes they do like those things, gamers always liked their games to have a sense of progression, decades ago progression=having RPG mechanics in your non-RPG game, in these days progression=unlocking a new skin/lootbox/getting a new item you won't ever need
I'm not going to defend blizzard and fomo mechanics but it was public knowledge that the game was gonna be a fomo train with a cash shop, battle passes and all that jazz while also being pay 2 play.
A 5 minutes google search is enough to find that information. If people can't spend 5 minutes to get some info before buying something they deserve even more hate than blizzard because it's fricking morons like them who have been enabling the state of the gaming industry. Frick casual shitters and gambling addicts.
Black person its a video game, you aren't going to fricking die if you dont finish it, go raise your kid anyway you fricking moron
>ARPGs wouldn't be long if it weren't for battlepasses
have a nice day.
>PM pic
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>local midwit thinks post-game content is forced
don't you dare use lolan in your bait posts your fricking gorilla Black person
>predatory player retention mechanics
>aka being expected to play more than 1 hour a day
lol
you'd be expected to play more on the weekdays, i think it's utterly baffling to think basically any game with more than 11 hours of content is too much anyway
>predatory player retention mechanics
>aka being expected to play more than 1 hour a day
>lol
yes? if your game attempts to get players addicted so they'll spend more money and time on your product it's predatory.
I don't think games like diablo should even be allowed to exist. they're objectively not games and designed to simply get brainlets hooked. we need to protect the underclass from their israelite overlords.
expecting someone to play your game in a grindy genre for 1 hour a day is not predatory
>I don't think games like diablo should even be allowed to exist. they're objectively not games and designed to simply get brainlets hooked.
ok so don't play it, but don't pretend that a diablo game should only have 10 hours of content in it either
>people don't play these games
>they stop using those practices
WOOOOOOWWWWW
>all the replies disagreeing with this post
Is it finally the day that I realize that I'm too old for this place...
>no I will play the ARPG that requires 40 hours just to get to the start of the part that matters
Do you want to know the secret of why diablo 4 is shit while diablo 2 was good?
You still need to go through the shitty parts in d2.
People like this need EVERYTHING to be catered to them. There isn't allowed to be one single game that just isn't for them.
He literally has not played that character for more than two hours, so if that is the timeline that we are working with, Fortnite isn't going to be good for him either since there is no way that he will ever be able to complete a season (which is what he is b***hing about). He would probably not even make it through the first tier of the battlepass.
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PLAY THIS TYPE OF GAME
arpgs are a boomer game
but these spastics WANT the long kino slow digestion games to be catered to them like they're zoomers
its the fricking devs fricking fault for doing this
kill all devs
mutilate all devs
Manchildren would be the people who have no families and just play video games. You know, losers.
The moment I had a kid I had mostly given up gaming. I just come here to keep up with the news. If you have a kid and still game you are setting a bad example for your kid.
>You will treat games like a job
I hate modern gaming
>I hate modern gaming
seriously what the frick happened to games
pretty much the only sane take in this thread, hence it obviously stays ignored
Have you ever met a WoW raider? Blizzdrones have been mindbroken since the beginning of time.
Wait what does that mean?
MAU for this game are going to tank, lol. The casual audience is not going to put up with this shit. There's heaps of people in that thread going "Is this your first ARPG?" Yes. For a lot of people, the answer is yes.
It's also pretty predatory that they sold the battle pass as part of the ultimate edition without it being clear that it would be subject to these shenanigans.
Hope it's worth shit-canning the recurring revenue to cater to a bunch of NEETs.
>It's also pretty predatory that they sold the battle pass as part of the ultimate edition without it being clear that it would be subject to these shenanigans.
No one is forcing you homosexuals with no self control to buy anything but the standard edition. Holy shit what low self control you buttholes have blaming others to force you to get the deluxe edition.
I didn't even buy the game, you stupid failed abortion. But the marketing for this game attempted to shove the Ultimate edition down your throat at every point. Every single other battle pass doesn't turn around and go:
"Yeah, back to square one with you."
Blizzard were quick to trumpet how successful this game was, and that was due to catering to normies. They won't even whisper about how its MAU nosedive because people don't have time for this bullshit.
TL;DR: homosexual game is for homosexual NEETs.
>wah wah I have no control over myself this is Blizzard's fault for some reason
You first israelite.
Imagine simping for Blizzard, of all companies.
How's the HRT going, BTW?
How am I simping israelite?
defending battle passes is simping
they're horrible FOMO-driven timesinks in every game they're in
Not that guy, but what is actually wrong with "FOMO" in an ARPG with seasons? If there was no kind of FOMO, then there wouldn't be any reason for seasons to exist, and thus an ARPG just kinda dies because now you can complete the game and then there's never anything new, due to no resets.
yes. if you cant play, you shouldnt have bought the game. are you stupid
I agree with him tbh. This is a big problem for seasonal shit like Tarkov or otherwise games that expect you to devote a huge amount of time like Dota or CS or even a battle royale (so you don't die immediately).
Gaming has gotten so predatory with progression systems to get you hooked that there's no good pick up and play multiplayer games anymore. It's a lifestyle
I disagree.
You just need to stop looking at tripple a game that need to use these tactics to break even.
>spend hundreds of hours autistically leveling, filling out you end game board thing, gearing up and spending boatloads of money/mats on rerolls on a single character
>you cannot engage in any of the update content with that character
WHEW LAD
>>you cannot engage in any of the update content with that character
This is wrong. That seasons content will fold into the non seasonal queue once the season is over. The boomer can do that seasons new stuff with his old character he just has to wait 3 months
>he just has to wait 3 months
he will still be doing the campaign on wt1 at that point.
only way to deal with them is gatekeeping and blizzBlack folk wont do it cause d4 is made for casuals
enjoy your dad gamers turning your game into mobile tier shit
I think that seasonal characters do need faster leveling
dumb homosexuals who have never played an arpg. you want to log in at lvl 100 kill whatever new boss they add then quit? resets are mandatory for keeping the game interesting long time. d2 would not have lived as long as it has without ladder resets. this cancer shit twitter homosexual opinion is what you get when you market your game to as many people as possible. thank frick poe exists
>live service cuckold
This system is exactly the same as older Diablo games. They only added MTX shit you don't have to buy and you still get the same free experience you get like in older games
>resets are mandatory for keeping the game interesting long time.
Only fricking schizos believe this.
I remember when Anthem had a bug and people were actually enjoying themselves and then BioWare went "Oh, no, if we let you have fun you'll get bored and quit."
Guess what happened after they fixed it? Everyone got bored and quit.
It's honestly no wonder that ARPGs remain a niche genre. Even PoE, which is goddamn free, can barely pull half of L4D2's figures.
how is that relevant at all, even if that's true about anthem? without seasons, the absolute most you can do in an arpg is hit max level on every class and then quit. if you want to play a game once and then quit then good for you, do that, but arpg fans want a game to sink 1000 hours into.
>What is horizontal progression?
You really are a fricking koala, aren't you?
not gaining power in an arpg is antithetical to the genre
What's the point in gaining power if it gets flushed after 3 months? At that point you're just an addict looking for a dopamine hit. "Oooooo, the numbers went up again!"
If you're gonna be that pathetic, just do it properly and do drugs.
the progression is the fun part. once you cap out and you stop feeling progress, you quit. without fail, every time. everyone does this. it's like when you were a kid putting cheat codes in gta and having fun for 20 minutes then getting bored.
Fricking progression-addicted gamers are the worst fricking blight on gaming. I hate your kind more than I hate the fricking diversity hires that litter games with nogs and trannies.
Play the games for fun, enjoyable gameplay, not "Hurrrr, numbers go up!"
You don't see people bailing on Street Fighter II after 30 years, and that's because those people understand that mastery isn't something that's tracked discretely.
Are you genuinely moronic? This is the numbers go up genre. You can go complain about this for other developers implementing it or something but these games are specifically for people that find everything around designing, implementing and maximizing your characters numbers to be the fun part. You don't see people bailing on Diablo 2 after 20 years either.
dumbfrick, getting good at a fighting game over years IS progression. how it's tracked is irrelevant. if you master a game you will quit it as you will get bored.
Point is, moron, that no one masters a fighting game. But apparently you all hit 100 in these homosexual clickfests and your ADHD-riddled brains need a new dopamine hit.
have a nice day, please.
if that's true why change fighting game when a new one comes out? street fighter 6, tekken 8, mortal kombat, if the games are fun forever and you can never master it why not just play tekken 7 forever? because a reset is fun. new things to learn, new metas, fresh progression. that's why people like resets, starting from zero is satisfying. everytime poe gets a meta shakeup it's exciting to try new shit
pseud
>But apparently you all hit 100
actually a very small percentage of arpg players ever hit 100 more than 1 time
in poe almost no one does it except for streamers and shit
and even then most of the time they get to max like 90 and get bored and make a new character that plays the game slightly differently
and the same goes for diablo 4
i doubt more than 1% of the total active player base has hit 100 one time.
>Fricking progression-addicted gamers are the worst fricking blight on gaming
but thats what video games are anon?
you do a thing and you move forward and do another thing and then progress to the next level.
name 1 popular game where you do not move forward or progress in any way, either in terms of the game or individual skill level.
Anything on Playstation.
>Play the games for fun, enjoyable gameplay, not "Hurrrr, numbers go up!"
anon you're in a diablo thread. we're 5 games into the franchise now and numerous clones.
you may not be aware but diablo has no gameplay. the entire game is left clicking until a pair of magical panties drop which you then wear for 10 minutes until new magical panties drop. the number going up IS the entire game.
>It's honestly no wonder that ARPGs remain a niche genre.
feel free to frick off from my game then and go shove gabe newells wiener up your ass sideways, I don't care if you don't like things about a genre you don't play
Would you sign up for a weekend long poker tournament if you could only show up for Friday night?
>I CAME INSIDE A WOMAN GIVE ME SPECIAL TREATMENT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Yes.
I too hate how modern games deliberately waste your time so you buy more. Modern games are designed to be more depressing versions of one arm bandits.
Therefore the guy is in the right, Blizzard shills please have a nice day. That includes you OP, especially you OP, your death would bring me a lot of pleasure.
>TFW you did not buy d4
I haven't bought a Blizzard game since Wings of Liberty.
I haven't bought a Blizzard game since Warcraft 3
And... why should the game have seasonal contents?
Give me your best defense against this FOMO ~~*mechanics*~~
Excuse to redo the arpg progression
It's like the one genre where this sort of thing makes sense
If you have no time due to chores,work,kids and whatever then what the frick is he doin on twitter then.
Video games are for children, if you are a parent you shouldn't be spending time playing them.
Why do people on Ganker pretend to not like video games?
I like vidya I just recognize it makes me a loser to play it and I should kill myself.
>Hey Paul
>hour a day
>still only level 11
You can reach level 11 in under an hour even in casual play he just fricking SUCKS at Videogames
arpg's are so shit. it's like playing a new playthough on a souls game, but this time you play dex instead of strength, and you still play the game exactly like a strength character because mechanically there is almost no difference.
>implying that all souls builds don't play the same
why is the reading comprehension on this board so poor?
like you just repeated what he said but you think you're disputing him, because you cannot read. You fail at reading. How? How can you possibly fail at reading?
you know who fails at reading. Black folk. I sincerely doubt you're a Black person, so what the frick is your excuse. there are porch monkeys who can read at a higher level than you. Literal fricking Black folk can read better than you? how do you live? how do you wake up everyday being dumber than a fricking Black person?
>why is the reading comprehension on this board so poor?
Have you seen the grammar some of these morons have?
They've all flunked their 3rd grade Intro to English.
Along with them purposefully misinterpreting your statement so they can pretend that the argument is still happening.
>but this time you play dex instead of strength
HOLY
If you don't like just don't play it you homosexual go play something that rewards you for everything and plays itself.
>go play something that rewards you for everything and plays itself.
sounds like diablo is the perfect game for him.
>level 11, 2 weeks after release
>claims he can only play 1 hour per day
>you can get to level 20 in like 1 hour
Is this guy just straight up lying or is he genuinely completely braindead at the game?
>Are gaming dads the new karens.
>Implying turning a video game into a fricking chore equals being a good game.
d4 is garbage and "gaymer dads" are a malignant tumor in every game they play
Why can't he just play less time intensive games for a few years?
These guys should pick up a different hobby if you are literally the meme of "I have 35 kids and can only play for 5 seconds a day" guy. You could genuinely get more done reading or doing woodwork I'm sure. Or manage your time better.
>new season drops
>oh boy cant wait to play this game again but this time i shoot fireballs instead of lightning!
>level 11 after the game has been out for like 14 days
You can literally gain 1 level every 5-10 minutes at that level. What the frick is he doing? The scenario in that tweet HAS to be made up.
Maybe he actually takes his time talking to everyone in town and reading all the dialogue. But still that would unlock quests that quickly get you up. So no clue.
ive literally played like 10 hours of diablo 4 since it came out and am level 25 on 2 characters. if you are only level 10 at this point then you obviously wont care about seasonal fomo shit
35 and been a dad for 4 years.
My autistic "Games to play" schedule went right out the window and I was in a deep depression for months when I realised how important gaming had been to my life and personality.
I got over it though and now I complete maybe 3 good single player games a year, Elden Ring alone took 9 months.
The power went out for 2 days and I went into a deep dark place because I realized literally everything in my life is tied not just to video games, or the internet, but to electricity in general. I tried reading a book but I couldn't get over the feeling that I hated my life because I had nothing to show I existed that represented the life I lived.
Then the power came back on and I felt better
>Elden Ring alone took 9 months.
i would kill myself.
if you don't have time to play games that require a long time commitment then either don't play them or just play them over a longer time frame
Ok but the issue with that is they intentionally design games to make you miserable if you have a reasonable schedule for them.
then play games that don't make you feel like this?
Kinda crazy how games still aren't categorized on time commitment.
Fallout 3 was designed so you can play it anytime and find something quick to do.
New vegas has a long narrative and I've only met other nerds like me who beat it in real life
Dads fall in the call of duty and fallout 3 camp. Games with no commitment and plenty of acitivities that don't bullshit your time. Blizzard stopped appealing to casuals way back in 2010 to focus on the autistic raid trannies, (and they've been on the decline ever since)
Everyone should call out predatory FOMO bullshit
adding seasons isn't predatory or fomo you dumb c**t it's mandatory for the game to last more than a month
>have to complete season/battle pass within a limited time frame or miss out
>not FOMO
miss out on what? cosmetics? for a game you don't care about playing anyway or you would be playing the reason regardless of unlocks? so fans should not be rewarded for playing the game regularly because you only want to play once every 2 years for a weekend? frick off
yes, limited time cosmetics are FOMO and they are a predatory mechanic
>fans should not be rewarded for playing the game regularly
lol, fricking "rewarded" for giving more of your time to Blizzard
you really are deepthroating corporate dick. It's so sad.
>giving more of your time to Blizzard
you're the one with corporate dick on the brain. i play games if they are fun regardless of who sells them. i value my own enjoyment more than some political agenda. it's nice to have a goal to work towards in each season. if you're so fricking autistic that an exclusive transmog is enough to force you to play a game you don't like for 20 hours then you have major mental problems
> i play games if they are fun regardless of who sells them
Sounds to me like you play games to 'be rewarded' for putting in more time than other people like a good little consumer
>political agenda
And this just means you don't have standards and all you care about is getting your dopamine fix. It's not a 'political agenda' to want games to be less relentlessly shit and predatory, it's wanting games to be better as opposed to just shoveling slop into my mouth like you do.
>if you're so fricking autistic that an exclusive transmog is enough to force you to play a game you don't like for 20 hours then you have major mental problems
FOMO doesn't work on me, but it's still a disgusting practice
>New dad
>Hour a day to game
As a new dad, you have 0 minutes per day to game.
Babies literally just eat, sleep, shit and repeat. It's extremely easy to find time to play a game like Diablo 4 where each dungeon run is like 5 minutes at most.
>As a new dad, you have 0 minutes per day to game.
sounds like a skill issue to me anon.
diablo 4 sounds incredibly like a job
>wagey can't even figure out what it'd do with an extra 12K free and clear
now that is sad
okay nevermind, not even UBI would save humanity
Do these morons want to just...play a maxed out character?
5 shotting bosses is fun when you're chasing loot, its not fun and mind numbingly boring when you've maxxed.
And being forced to play an agonizing amount of hours of the game in order to not miss out on items, paying for the privilege, then starting all over again every three months, is fun?
why cant you just miss out on items? you dont need to 100% everything
Why have battle passes if people don't care to complete them?
i don't think battle passes are good, but in general many playeres want games with a little more depth and you need to invest time in those.
if you make games for dads they're always going to be the most braindead shit.
Time gated grinding slog is not depth
Dads can easily go back to something like D2 and not feel forced to play or missing out
true, but getting the best items in d2 is a tough grind as well
But you can always go back and try to get that drop again. after this battle pass ends, you can never obtain that content again. aka, the antithesis of Diablo
>Dads can easily go back to something like D2 and not feel forced to play or missing out
Are you unaware that D2 also had ladder seasons?
Optional
d4 seasons are optional too.. by the way d2 has ladder-only items. oh no! fomo!
ladder is the same content, new character
season is new content, new character
>Optional
Exactly like Diablo 4's seasons.
Why would you give a shit about this if you've finished the game and completed your character?
New items for what, a game you play 20 mins every 3 month til you obviously realise how bored you are and stop?
Well you could start another character but you're only wasting effort if you don't wait to do it when the season starts months from now.
>Do these morons want to just...play a maxed out character?
Yes. Games only start being fun once I am strong enough to annihilate everything on the screen with no effort and nothing can harm me.
>5 shotting bosses is fun when you're chasing loot, its not fun and mind numbingly boring when you've maxxed.
What you call boring I call fun. Having to lose all my progress every 3 months would make me quit instantly and permanently the first time it happens. Once I finally reach the summit I want to stay there forever.
>Once I finally reach the summit I want to stay there forever
Okay, so just ignore seasons and play on the eternal realm then. Problem solved.
You are literally not going to play the game once you've finished your character and have no more power or loot to chase.
You are not going to run dungeons 'for fun', you're not going to farm helltides 'for fun'. You can pretend otherwise, but when you don't ever have to pick up any loot, because its all unnecessary, the entire design of the game is absent.
Everything is built around getting loot, when you finish that treadmill, the game is done.
Not that guy you are talking to, but to me the building your character part is just the first phase. Second phase is competing on leaderboards. Unfortunately D3 won't have those until season 2 or 3 though.
Once you have children you should stick to easily paused single player games or matchmaking slop multiplayer games.
>dad gamers
Reminder that zoomers can be dad gamers
i mean what the frick is the alternative?
>no no paul you can bring your level 100 maxed out character and full stash and max renown right into season 1 and get burnt out in 2 days because there is nothing actually new to do that isnt made trivial by your max level character and bis gear.
i mean actually what the frick did these people expect.
were they tricked into buying and playing this game?
did they not play diablo 3?(one of the best selling games of all time)
>were they tricked into buying and playing this game?
yes
Battle passes and homosexuals whining about their problems are both equally as obnoxious.
The simple answer to this is to not play games with battle passes. You're never going to get them to stop monetizing games in this way, and you can't play the game on their terms because of your obligations, so don't give them money for it.
They have done so much to satisfy casuals but it's a fricking arpg, it will always trend towards hardcore. It has to.
Stop playing new games
but the same thing happens with diablo 3 and path of exile.
and will happen with last epoch
(i dont know about troony ark, never played it)
if you want to play a modern arpg you will have to deal with seasonal resets.
>Playing Blizzard shit
Please have some self respect.
I never played diablo 4 or 3, but "seasonal questline" sounds like it's some optional shit. If the guy has so little time maybe he shouldn't focus on timed optional shit, the way he phrased his question it sounds like he intended from the get go to just ask a gotcha question.
I'm been more and more frustrated with older gamers in general.
So many people cope with age by becoming casual defeatists, and that would be fine, but it doesn't stop there. They also cope by developing a weird sense of superiority over being a casual player, like the only way they can reckon with the fact that they've given up on enjoying struggling with games the way they used to is by internalizing it as having been the wrong way to enjoy games at all. I see this everywhere.
I notice it in my friends, they were always shit at games, but as they got into their 30's they try to blame it on their age and take this more casual approach to everything, but it really just means they use it as an excuse to never try anything or actually improve anymore. It's real annoying these homosexuals act like they're 90 at 34
Dude should be playing Immortal, the gameplay loop is so short that it's ideal for his kind.
Why is he trying to play a hardcore game while being a casual when the casual friendly alternative already exists and is called Immortal.
The amount of people popping up who fundamentally don't seem to understand the point of ladders/seasons with Diablo 4 is downright baffling to me.
It's zoomers.
seasonal restricted content is anti consumer.
Multiplayer gaming is anti consumer since the game experience will vary according to stuff like how many people are playing or the skill of said people, like one day all multiplayer games will be unplayable or at the very least unplayable in their original form, something that doesn't happen in singleplayer titles unless they have MP features like Dark Souls
sounds like a skill issue to me anon
dont have self control?
>uses game as a verb
Frick him
I discovered this secret technique that is to just ignore the battle passes, but don't tell this to anyone.
i have just started to do this
like i get to maybe half way just by playing when i want to and then say nah and play something else
but before i would force myself to grind xp to finish it.
But the developers are putting in time developing the battle pass instead of content for the base game. By ignoring the pass you are missing out, not getting the full experience you otherwise paid for. Ignore the game completely, and play something else instead that values you as a customer.
I don't care about missing out on cosmetics that don't interest me.
Point still stands, why play a game where they dedicate time to pumping out cosmetics instead of actual content?
Why are you under the impression that making cosmetics are somehow "taking away" from content? They are not even the same kind of teams/devs.
>unironically talking shit about people living life correctly
disgusting you disgust me I am disgusted.
Twitter posts
>99.99% of his posts have 0 engagement
>crying on Twitter about a game not catering to his specific needs and wants
>living life correctly
Nah.
>you're saying I should not
Yes you have a kid now take care of it moron.
never buying or playing diablo 4 but homosexuals that say they don't have time for a game should be imprisoned. They are the very reason in-game purchases exist. Guess what? I can't buy a 10 million dollar mansion, so why did they make the price 10 million? I can't afford it!
Their issue is that they are uninformed consoomers, they could easily just play something else but no THEY MUST play Diabloslop 4 or else they feel like they are missing out.
People who buy in game purchases are the reason in game purchases exist. Nothing wrong with complaining about games not respecting your time (especially if they do it deliberately to try and monetize you)
>about games not respecting your time
THEN DONT PLAY DIABLO YOU ABSOLUTE MORON
You are DESPERATE to defend this. You can play a fricking ARPG with its grindy mechanics and shit without having your time disrespected by forced engagement practices you disingenuous c**t. Stop trying to defend Blizzard's practices and stop trying to defend your own eager consumption of them.
i defend blizzard practices from 2 decades ago
im talking about diablo 2 you inbred moron, didn't touch d4 and don't plan on touching it
Diablo 2 doesn't have fricking in-game purchases which is what I was talking about when you decided to have your all caps tantrum. I have no problem with Diablo 2. A game taking a lot of time doesn't mean it disrespects your time. Diablo 4 is cancer, which it seems we both agree on.
people who buy games that dont respect their time are the reason that games that waste your time exist
Not every game has to be for everyone.
why would you play diablo you absolute frickwhit
a proper diablo has endless grind, its a perfect game for autist that have 40 hrs to dedicate to it a week
not for casuals
except diablo 3 was ULTRA casualised and d4 has been going in the same direction and was marketed out the ass to every single person on earth with an internet connection.
they really dont care how much you play as long as you buy.
also the paul c**t says he has 4000 hours between d2 and d3 but never made a seasonal character and has no idea how seasons work in any arpg game
sounds like a grade A moron to me.
>writes about video games for forbes and has been a destiny simp for a decade
yeh that checks out.
>he has 4000 hours between d2 and d3 but never made a seasonal character and has no idea how seasons work in any arpg game
bro that's literally me..... Seriously, I just did an Ice Sorc in D2 last year and multishot DH in D3 a few months ago and I have no idea what this shit is, probably because leaderboards seem like exceedingly boring content to me
he also went on to say he has 12 maxed characters in d3
which if you have played d3 doesnt actually mean anything.
i tried skimming through but he tweets like a fricking schizo
something about him trying a seasonal character but "didnt get it" or "didnt like it" or something and never played seasonal again.
which doesnt make sense to me
like you are fine putting 2000 hours into 12 characters that are all "maxed" but the idea of starting a seasonal character is weird????
>but the idea of starting a seasonal character is weird????
For me, if the option is "create new character" or "create new character but with limited time live service features", the former sounds a lot more appealing. Though since the "good" stuff gets added to expansions anyway like Kanai's cube and the companion gear in the Reaper expansion, I don't really mind, I just don't partake in it.
4000hrs in d2 and d3 and he doesn't know what a ladder is lel, then he probably didn't play much diablo 2 because you had to know if you played online OR he exclusively played solo for thousands of hours but then he woudn't be saying such a moronic statement
SO he probably played diablo 2 twice in 2005 and then just played diablo 3 for 4000hrs
also i said a "proper diablo"
Did I play a different Diablo 2 from everyone else? I don't remember playing some live service GAAS with timed limited content and whatever ladders and leaderboards are that everyone else seems to love.
Diablo 2 only gatekeeps some runewords that are ladder specific afair.
But I don't think we're talking about D2 here
The original or the remake?
Can't remember if the stuff was eventually dropped in the original or not.
D2R has some new stuff that is ladder only, but it may be enabled to nonladder after 2 or so seasons pass, as new ladder only things get added. It's not much anyway.
>You lived long enough to see Ganker defend time gated se*son p*sses and microtransactions
Seasons are a great way to breathe new life and longevity into games. The people who are complaining about seasons being "FOMO" are moronic.
Eh, I can understand why. It's like all those PVP updates in Souls games, a PVE player will see it as wasted development time. Someone that doesn't want to play Diablo weekly will likely see seasons the same way. I can't even fault them, and I can understand wariness, fomo pandering makes people extremely rabid and defensive of the game they "dedicate themselves to", like gacha and MMO players.
>fomo pandering makes people extremely rabid and defensive of the game they "dedicate themselves to", like gacha and MMO players.
obviously, you see it every D4 (or any Blizzshit) thread
Most people here started to play games when those things were in process of normalization. Their father's credit card didn't stand a chance!
They certainly love telling you that they have kids for some reason.
It's not subconscious regret or anything.
>israeli player retention tricks (battle passes, season-based content, matchmaking, etc.)
gay and cringe
>parents/wagies/etc. who complain about long games "not respecting their time" or whatever
ALSO gay and cringe
This
There's so many fricking good games out there
If your schedule doesn't allow you to nolife a game desinged for nolifers just play something else
If I had kids I wouldn't bother with video games and I would be more concerned about money issues and whether little Timmy will dominate in the footy this weekend or insult me with his pathetic performance again, just like I did as a kid. :^)
why are these homosexuals still wasting their time playing vidya instead of spending it with their kids?
If you do play vidya as a parent, play it with the kid.
My uncle did this with his son and I and it was fun.
My dad didn't like any of my games except for Pilotwings 64.
Luckily, I was a sport obsessed like him. A little too obsessed even.
Oh wait, he also liked AoE.
The guy in OPs picture is just a dishonest homosexual. A newborn baby will spend half its time sleeping. Yet this dude is talking about how he's still level 11 after the game has been out for 14 days. It literally doesn't make any kind of logical or rational sense.
You literally get to level 11 in 20 minutes. The dude is just complaining for the sake of complaining. There's probably some sort of underlying psychological issue where he feels immense regret about having a child, and then he channels that into complaining about a video game.
Yeah, you get to 10 by literally just doing the tutorial.
what a lucky kid, having a gay loser who can't even play diablo properly for a father.
Where did the season craze begin anyway? I don't remember Titan Quest or Torchlight or Grim Dawn having them, but nowadays you are told "you aren't a REAL ARPG player" or "this genre isn't for you" if you don't play them. I know Path of Exile has them and Diablo 3 added them in one of it's updates, but how did it become the face of ARPGs?
Diablo 2 had ladders with ladder only items and rune words since forever, while PoE popularized seasons with seasonal content.
>but how did it become the face of ARPGs?
Diablo 2 ladders.
Genocide
This is why dads love shmups so much. You play 2 or 3 credits a day and get dense gameplay with no filler and you get one step closer to your 1cc/score goal.
>mentions a newborn in the first sentence
>expresses concern about how this will impact his ability to play video games
imagine being a woman and letting such a fricking manchild impregnate you
imagine coming to the slow realization that you fricked up big time, when you get up at 3am to feed the brat, and your limpwristed hubby is still at it, grinding away
lmao
also
why does having a newborn or even a toddler stop you from playing games?
strap that b***h to your chest and game
the flashing lights will probably entertain them more than you.
>just hit level 11 after grinding all night WOOOOO
>oh shit, better keep it down the missus will not be happy!
i don't really understand starting a new char for seasons in D4 either, 2bhwy. the game is an MMO design and NONE of that early shit like the campaign, hunting Lilith statues and exploring the fog of war etc, has any replay value whatsoever. i thought it was just gonna be new levels of gear and shit added on top for progressing our main character.
PoE is for a fresh start every league, it has infinite builds and the fresh economy, whilst a load of discord c**t shite, is important to the game.
D4 is for sticking on one character and progressing dumb "ilvl" infinitely in increasing Nightmare tiers. it's more arcade-y, and doesn't have builds. i cannot understand for the life of me wanting a fresh start.
>campaign
Can be skipped.
>hunting Lilith statues
They carry over through seasons so you never need to do them again.
>exploring the fog of war
Same as above.
>PoE is for a fresh start every league, it has infinite builds and the fresh economy, whilst a load of discord c**t shite, is important to the game.
How can you write this, while then being completely against it for D4, even though it's the exact same thing, minus the economy?
i mentioned it; D4 is arcade-y and more vertical power progression, with long term systems like Paragon. you don't really have builds, the talent tree picks itself once you choose a spender.
the game uses a basic item level system (although to be fair we do have actual mods and attributes now, ilvl doesn't mean much like before, D3's stacking one mainstat). i never feel like i have THEE gear, everything feels like an interim to the next step, which is just more grinding.
With PoE there is ALWAYS another build I can start over with, and reseting the economy is rather important because it gets out of hand quick. In a league, once I kill the new league boss and kill the Maven, I feel pretty complete and there's probably not much more I can do with my character / items, unless I go autismo 500div perfect items which is pointless anyway. so in that way i feel "complete" in a league.
don't get me wrong i'd love to be proven wrong. i haven't taken part in Diablo seasons, so it depends what they offer. i'm grinding hard on "eternal severs" and enjoying it, Seasons will have to be really cool to make me wanna start over, and I really don't see it being nearly as good as a PoE league (and I've skipped plenty of PoE leagues for being shit).
Each season generally adds a new mechanic or a way to get another legendary ability or two on your build. That's why people play them, it's a slight rule change or a new system every few months. These games take a few days to get to level cap, and there isn't much to do when you do the fun of the game is building a character and gearing it up which seasons offer just enough difference to make it "interesting" a second or third time.
>These games take a few days to get to level cap
???
Blizz said it would take an average player 150 hours to get 100. Kripp doesn't even think he will make it there in that time. Zizz etc world first only got there doing autism split dungeon farms in a full group. I've never had a level 100 in PoE in like 3500 hours of playing.
The levelling in this game is painful. S1 will launch and I bet the average player won't be 60, or barely. And you want people to start all over again? Lv6 characters are stronger than Lv60. Resistances are weaker than armor for non-physical dmg. The entire power system revolves around Unstoppable, Crit, and Vuln, with 0 variation in what a good build looks like.
The game is not ready for a Season reset, it's as simple as that.
>The game is not ready for a Season reset, it's as simple as that.
The last dev blog thing they did, they had a document that was 13 pages long with changes that are coming before S1. If they just nerf the XP required to level by like 30-40% every level above 80(or buff XP gains from dungeons/NMDs/events), then the leveling speed is in a good spot for 3 month duration seasons.
>Can be skipped.
so you can get straight into the non existent end game? lol
>They carry over through seasons so you never need to do them again.
but map completion/side quests/ dungeons/ aspects/ strongholds dont.
>Same as above.
did they talk about this in that dev stream they did? because i just started a new character and the map is all undiscovered again.
>even though it's the exact same thing
it isnt, d4 dosent have builds. the only way you can play is the way the devs have planned you to play, no one invented a necro corpes explode build, the devs created it and made the game so there is essentially 1 or 2 viable builds for necro corpse explode. like in diablo 3, there were no builds in that game because every way to play was pre designed by the devs, "this season im going to play the inna's EP build" thats not what a build is, in path of exile there are actual player made builds that were not pre planned and designed by the devs.
D4's Rogue is a funny anomaly where there's a shit ton of ways to build them, all are great, all are fun to play and viable and more. Imbue? Trap? Twisting Blade? Flurry? Penetrating Shot? Rapid Fire? Even Barrage? All fun and serviceable throughout the game. Meanwhile all the others are super pidgeonholed.
He's 100% right though. Rogue is somehow the only class that actually has a bunch of specs that all feel fun. Twisting Blades is probably one of the most engaging and enjoyable abilities I've tried in 20 years of ARPGs because it actually involves thinking about trajectory/geometry.
Also multiple ways to inflict vulnerable and more, and basic attacks that are FUN to use too. Rogue's only real balancing issue is how crossbows are like 200% better than every other weapon type for them.
There's really no reason for battle passes to be time limited.
When it's time to switch it out with a new one, just put the previous one as an optional objective you can clear instead of outright removing it, so there's more "content" for new and returning players.
I had to raise my godson from his birth until almost two years old and I gotta tell ya, shit was easy. I played a solid amount of vidya, watched a ton of /m/ shit, still got my own responsibilities handled. I promise the "I have no time crowd" spend hours scrolling the internet on their phone while netflix plays their comfort show in the background as their primary timesink.
>raising another man's child
>You know what's cucked? Being there for your friends. Fricking lmao
>I had to raise my godson from his birth until almost two years old
what does that mean?
Best friend was in the army, got sent overseas right around the birth of his son, his wife was having severe post-partum mental health issues and was deemed a danger to the baby as a result so literally when the kid went home from the hospital he went with me and his was his dad for a while until everything resolved.
oh, i was assuming prison.
did the experience make you want kids of your own?(assuming you didnt already have kids of your own)
Yeah, the experience was positive for me. I had wanted kids before but going through that really put a lot of the fears and anxieties I had to bed. It wasn't like I loved waking up to cries in the middle of the night, there was work involved. It's also way easier than bad dads make it out to be. Absent fathers (like mine lol) are actually laughable to me at this point.
was letting go hard?
like when your friend came back?
or is it ok because you still get to see them(assuming you are still close friends)
Why do people insist on playing games when they have children
They refuse to grow up and accept that once you have a kid, you're supposed to drop hobbies and other such trivialities.
Vidya is actually a great hobby to have in between downtime when raising kids. It's cheap, it's accessible right from your home, it can be started/stopped at will for most games, and eventually you can also engage your child(ren) in it.
The only problem arises when vidya addicted parents start seeing their children as the #2 priority and vidya as their #1 priority. This is why you get all these "I CAN'T GAME ANYMORE BECAUSE I SPAWNED A CHILD". Any sane parent would never say something like that.
And good old Ganker contrarians are suddenly pro-Blizzard and pro-battlepasses. Hilarious.
Thank God I'll never have children
Imagine putting another miserable soul in this world
i understand the dad since i also went through a minor crisis few years ago.
you just have to leave it behind since there are more important things in life now.
i just play shit that i can pause, it's not that hard.
Just stop being a dad
Go buy a cigarrette and never come back
im white
>be dad
>have shit taste in vidya
>buy blizzshit
>complain on social media
kill all normalgays
if you have a kid you should frick off and never participate in the video game community ever again unless you get divorced and lose custody, then you can be a certified gamer again
IF YOU HAVE KIDS OR A WIFE YOU NEED TO GET OFF Ganker RIGHT NOW!!!!!!
This “new dad” doesn’t have a wife? I have four children and I certainly had more than an hour per day to game when my first was an infant.
battlepass isn't designed for casual play, simple as, it's designed to get you hooked and onto the microtransaction paypig track
reminds me of dad gamers raiding on WoW
>I simply don't have the time to look up fights, im an adult man with an adult schedule with only 15 minutes a decade to game
>my dad guild will now proceed to take thrice as long to kill anything because we dont have... le time
>if you hate season pass shit, just dont play it, it doesnt affect you :^)
>if you hate troon and gay shit, just dont play it, it doesnt affect you :^)
D4 literally gives you the eternal realm, where you can play forever and never join any seasons. It's not even remotely the same as devs showing troony shit into games.
Aside from blizzard, this has been a problem in many games, mainly MMOs
>I don't have time to play this game, you need to make it shorter!
Frick you pathetic Black person, trying to ruin the experience for everyone else. The world doesn't revolve around your narcissistic ass. If a genre is known to be time consuming, then go fricking find another, I'm sure there are a million other games in which you will fit right in.
I have severe flat feet, so I cannot do running excercises, but there are other sports which I can do without a problem. I don't go around running communities trying to convince everyone that the average race distance should be shortened for my sake.
I fricking hate Black folk like these so much
>trying to ruin the experience for everyone else
Mindless grinding and mobile game tier progression is quite the 'experience'.
Face it. Progression needs to be streamlined. No one wants to spend hours grinding in MMOs.
Not adhd zoomers
Not boomers raising their wife's son
No one.
>Face it. Progression needs to be streamlined.
you absolutely need to go back
You need to stop being a NEET.
If I'm paying 70 bucks or a monthly fee the progression in the game better not have time gaps, arbitrary quest or other dumb shit that's just busy work or time gated.
>If I'm paying 70 bucks or a monthly fee
Here's an idea for you, since you're a stupid casual: Stop being playing games like these and go play casual games instead.
>Paying money to grind like a F2P game is a good thing
Holy shit you're moronic
You are the moronic one here. You're the one crying because a game isn't casual enough for your stupid casual ass. Just go play all the other casual games out there instead. They are specifically designed for casuals like you.
Stop strawmanning you homosexual, I am by no means defending time gated progression. I think the introduction daily/weekly systems is the cancer killing MMOs. Plus, if anything, this system is extremely good for those """dad gamers""", because it lets you play games for 30 minutes per day at most.
Aside from that, MMOs are a genre which has been built on sinking time into it. You're trying to redefine the whole fricking genre because it doesn't suit you. Stop being a narcissistic homosexual and go play games which you have the time for.
Low IQ post
Timegating is good, neets are subhuman and need to he ignored
>Low IQ post
>Timegating is good
the irony
have a nice day you fricking piece of shit game as a service enabler
It pleases my autism
This guy could beat D2 at his own pace and miss nothing, I know because as a child it took me months to do it because I only had 1h of play time, D4 is simply shit and people attacking him for pointing out there is absolutely no good reason why this content should be time limited are cringe as frick.
>here is your new content but it will only be available for a month so don't miss out!
Like what the frick man.
Are you the same type of person who gets angry at cinemas for not showing any movie you want forever? Do you scream about the FOMO of movies only being in cinemas for a certain period of time?
Video games are not movies and you can still watch the movie after it's not longer in cinema, here is a proper analogy since your suck, imagine buying a BD with movie you enjoyed, and every once in a while the director force "update" on it where some scenes are added and some are cut, now enjoy your ghost Hayden Christensen homosexual.
>google it
>it's remake thing
You're only proving my point.
>imagine buying a BD with movie you enjoyed, and every once in a while the director force "update" on it where some scenes are added and some are cut, now enjoy your ghost Hayden Christensen homosexual.
You know what I would do? I would just not buy it in the first place, knowing that it would happen. This is what you low IQ chucklefrick morons don't seem to grasp. This has been known for ages, yet you are STILL surprised and you are STILL whining and crying about it.
>You're only proving my point.
https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/runewords-110.shtml
CTRL+F for "The following Rune Words will only work on the Battle.net Realms for Ladder Characters only. They will not work for single or open characters or non-ladder characters".
>no good reason why this content should be time limited are cringe as frick.
Apparently you missed the part where D2 also had seasonal-only runewords.
I have two kids and I make do, work with your fricking wife and it's a non-issue. It only gets easier as they get older. I completed more games so far, this year than I have in the last 3 in total
why play games at all if you don't want to invest time
I'm perfectly fine with investing time.
However moronic grinding is an insult.
NOO NOT THE WEALTH CREATERINOS
i encourage people to read more replies that rod gets, shit genuinely blew my mind how moronic these casuals are; they actually need to be bullied away
i immediately realized why chris wilson states they intentionally want to put off casual players by bloating the skill tree and obfuscating mechanics like vendor recipes and crafting
some game genres genuinely need to be gatekept and d4's commercial success may be its downfall if the devs listen to them
Crafting systems upgrades with a chance to fail and only brute force or getting enhancers to help with the success rate.
Is a perfect example of shit game design only there to intice you to buy shit or grind.
sure but chris is still a dumb Black person
>sorry we NEED a billion worthless items dropping that NEED to be individually identified with scrolls that take up inventory space, oh and 99.99999% of drops are actually objectively worthless to you and every player so just use a filter to hide all of them
then why even drop them in the first place you bald fat moron?
>we balanced hardcore around logging out at any sign of danger
what a useless homosexual.
also yes "weight" is important in video games but not in the way chris talks about it.
>then why even drop them in the first place you bald fat moron?
item filters exists you absolute worthless mongoloid
that useless item which you wouldn't even worth in trade might be useful to someone in ssf
>item filters exists you absolute worthless mongoloid
I LITERALLY SAID THAT IN THE LINE DIRECTLY ABOVE YOU FRICKING ILLITERATE c**t
>that useless item which you wouldn't even worth in trade might be useful to someone in ssf
just say you dont play poe and frick off.
the solution is to instead of have an item explosion from every mob, instead have way way way less drops, and increase the quality of each drop.
filters should not be required to play the game and if they are its a sign of bad game design.
especially when the devs themselves fully acknowledge that its a problem.
other aprgs dont have this problem.
and its especially bad when the fricking lead dev constantly talks about weight as the reason why xyz qol cant happen is the same guy defending WEIGHTLESS dogshit objectively worthless for 100% of the player base items that he endorses filtering out all together.
what insane hypocrisy.
>this system has existed since over 10 years
>but now I suddenly find it bad game design
>it needs to be like my epic diablo lego drops!
also
>especially when the devs themselves fully acknowledge that its a problem.
b***h where, they don't even think it's a problem, because it never was and it doesn't suddenly become one
also
>pic related
Yeah you can eat shit homosexual
>but now I suddenly
who said that? is someone else here who said that?
diablo 3 also shits out items but its ok because all of them are identified or can be identified all at once in town
and you can dismantle entire inventories instantly
last epoch doesnt shit out items(everything drops identified anyway, and has in game loot filters but are not required at all)
titan quest does not have this problem
torchlight 1,2,3 does not have this problem.
(havent played lost ark, maybe it is a problem in that game.)
as far as i can tell poe is the only game where this is actually a big problem that is acknowledged as a problem and promptly ignored by those same devs.
>it needs to be like my epic diablo lego drops!
ok you are literally fighting a straw man.
>pic related
lol.
also doesnt prove shit about ssf.
and for a fact i know ssf players still use extensive item filters.
>its a problem because other games are different
not an argument, homosexual
>accuses someone of not playing the game
>gets proven wrong
>t-this proves nothing
lmao
>its a problem because other games are different
how the frick is that your take away you actual moron.
>accuses someone of not playing the game
moron
>t-t
"LOOK I DID THE ONIONS STUTTER MEME LOOK AT ME, AHAHAHA LOOK ISNT THAT SO FUNNY GUYS AHAHHAHA, LOOK IF I DO THIS "T-T" IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE HES A STUTTERING FOOL AHAHAHAHA"
hey champ, could you stop projecting and engage with the topic like an adult.
you literally have no counter argument to why im wrong other than being disrespectful, lying and acting like a class clown.
You don't have an argument you moron. All you're saying is
>this is a bad system!
It's not, because we have loot filters
>NO YOU SHOULDN'T NEED LOOT FILTERS, WE NEED TO FIX THIS PROBLEM RIGHT NOW
Imagine trying to get devs to waste time on """fixing""" a problem which is already fixed.
>You don't have an argument
you dont know what an argument is.
>because we have loot filters
you are bucketing out water instead of plugging the hole.
>waste time on """fixing""" a problem which is already fixed.
so you agree that is a problem that is fixed by 3rd party tools.
which would mean playing without filters means the problem isnt fixed and remains a problem.
try playing the next league without using any kind of filters and if you are annoyed or frustrated by the infinite amount of literal dogshit covering your screen you agree that it is a problem and is bad game design.
if the community has to create tools for the game it means the devs failed.
yeah, if that's your fricking moronic argument
>try to play the way the game is not intended to play and see how much of a problem it is!
then I'm out
Why are you being this fricking moronic?
Also loot filters are not a 3rd party tools, only the websites you download them from are 3rd party, you stupid mongrel
Why are incels commenting on child bearing hips when they'll never have children?
Why are incels hating on father's who had children but want to pause games because their child shat the bed?
Because they're loser NEETS with 0 responsibilities
So grinding in a game all day is their job and sense of accomplishment.
They'll be damned if you take that from them
Cope, I have spent 0 hours playing games this year but I recognize that tailoring games to the preferences of casual moron dads is disastrous.
>I have spent 0 hours playing games this year
You're the reason this board is dogshit
Nope. If there are no good games I don't play. Keep slopping.
>do I fit in yet?
>you should play bad games to fit in
yeah nah. maybe if a single good game had come out in the past decade +
Who the frick wants to have children? They are so expensive and take up all your time. And the only thing you get back is that you get to frick them (if you have a daughter). Not worth it.
Spoken like a true incel.
Don't overdose on that copium anon
What copium. I don’t want children. I have no inclination to have them.
>Why are incels hating on father's who had children but want to pause games because their child shat the bed?
That is NOT what's happening here. The dude in OPs tweet is the kind of dude who wants the game to be dumbed down and casualized. If he was just asking for a pause button, then most people would agree with implementing that.
im an incel and I have a gf and kids
cope
With an 8 inch wiener and a math PhD making 600k a year
We know
nah only 6 inch wiener and no job
cope
I have sex and incels are the future
I don't think you know what sex or incel means
shutup homosexuals you're more incel than me
You do know what celibate means right? Who impregnated your wife?
tyrone
yeah I know what celibate means
its not about sex its about sending a message
roastoid femoids are on a ticking rope
>being involuntarily celibate isn’t about being celibate
?
even tho i hate this new wave of dadgamers who can only play 1h a month and think their opinion is important. d4 doesn't actually feel like it was designed around having seasons, in other arpgs you only need about 4-8h to have your league starter ready to farm the endgame, here just the leveling takes about 10h if you play solo and that's just to lvl 50, then another 10-20h of sidequests and other shit to unlock your renown, i don't mind playing new seasons in games like d3 or poe but here i'm going to be burned out in s1, it's just feels i'm constantly doing chores in this game, i don't really get that in other arpgs
The XP needed to level after 80 will 100% get reduced at some point. Whether it's before season 1 or before season 2, it will happen. The XP requirement spike is too insane. No one wants to level to 100 every 3 months with these XP rates.
Seasons and battle passes are definitely garbage for the exact reasons the guy mentions. Video games shouldn't be a second job and you shouldn't FOMO elements added into the to manipulate you into playing (or paying for) them
The easiest solution especially for a 70 dollar fricking game is to allow any previous battlepass to be progressed.
The vaulting of that content is gay as frick.
Let people grind the pass on their own time. Removing/time gating content in full price titles should be illegal
Yeah there should be seasonal content for everyone and an optional ladder if you want.
The only reason I can think that they don't do this is that ladder would be a ghost town. If you had the option to keep your shit or be forced to do a single side quest ever again nobody is going to go for the restart and everyone would finish the pass in an afternoon. God forfrickingbid that happen.
this isn't a "Blizzard should let me pause the game" issue
this is a "why is this game I paid $70 for only able to be played online even when I am playing alone" issue
people who give Blizzard money deserve this.
>this is a "why is this game I paid $70 for only able to be played online even when I am playing alone" issue
No. The guy in OP is complaining about leveling being too slow, and how he has to do it again for Season 1. While he's level 11. Which takes 20 minutes to get to. 14 days after the game has released.
Just stop having 3rd world internet you moron
I wonded if people know that those dad gamers are millennials.
>I don't want children, they're too troublesome and annoying
>"You spam of satan, killer of western society, nasty fricking NEET without sense of responsibility, kys!"
Why are chuds and breeders like this
Not every games has to be playable for everyone.
There's a difference between quality content that's not for everyone and FOMO content designed to inflate participation numbers.
yes but why would you expect the former from blizzard? all they make is fomo content designed to inflate participation.
>YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE GAME FOR ME! FRICK EVERYONE ELSE!
>i only have 1 hour to play games a day
holy shit this explains uncharted so much
To be fair a 70 dollar game with a purchasable battlepass should not require more than an hour of playing a day to progress it.
They already have my money. I'll keep my time.
>To be fair a 70 dollar game with a purchasable battlepass should not require more than an hour of playing a day to progress it.
They have said that the battle passes will take ~80 hours to complete. The seasons will last 3 months, which is 2190 hours. The guy in OPs tweet is complaining about normal leveling, while he's level 11, 14 days after release.
Rod was an idiot back when gears of war was a thing, is he still an idiot?
Probably, but in this case the "dad gamer" has unreasonable expectations.
>is he still an idiot?
Yes.
>My current character is level 11
That's basically two hours of playing the campaign, tops.
>That's basically two hours of playing the campaign, tops.
It's like 20-30 minutes at most. You get to 10 by just completing the tutorial right before you enter Kyovashad.
No, they are homosexuals and manchildren. I don't care they have children, they are immature homosexuals that want the world to cater to them.
If you can't play vidya because you are busy being a dad and working, then tough shit, you will get time when your kids grow and regardless you should be wanting to spend time with your kids over anything else, so only getting a bit of vidya for a while should not be a problem
How about instead of screaming at the wall you just play games you actually like? You're never going to convince these AAA corporations to change their ways as an individual, so just fricking ignore them instead of wasting your time. There's enough game content out there to last you multiple lifetimes, even if you're addicted to a specific genre. Stop being a consoomer.
Damn Gankeris defending blizzard of all companies all because that dude has a family.
Jealous much?
Blizzard is a homosexual company and the other dude is a massive turbo homosexual
Both of them are Black folk
>I have no time to participate in this hobby
>you must cater to me
Jesus Christ. Not that I'm defending Diablo IV since anyone who actually bought it is a fricking moron
imagine being a dad (lol, lmao)
i don't mind other homies having kids but personally i could never do it and i don't get why you would.
If you have a newborn child, just fricking stop playing with toys for, at the very least, the first 6 years of their lives? is that too much to ask for? put the fricking nintendo down and educate/play/take care of your newborn? you fricking idiots?
Newborn children sleep half of the day. Not sure what the frick that dad is on about. I have a feeling he's just making shit up. He's level 11 after 14 days. It takes 20 minutes to get to level 11 in D4.
As a dadTM I feel the time has come to explain to the virgins on this sub who this game is for : dads. To understand why D4 is a game for dads, and exclusively for dads, you need to understand who dads are :
First of all, by definition, dads are sex-havers. At least once in any case. Many of you won't understand, but once the P goes in the V your interest in endgame mob density is severely reduced.
Second, dads are rich. Dads spend most of their time working, which is why most have only made it half way through caracter creation. Also, kids are very cheap, seeing they eat much less than fully grown humans. This means dads have a LOT of disposable income. So you can understand dads do not care about spending 30$ to play a few days earlier or 25$ for a little wolf hat. This also signals your dad status to other dads.
Thirdly, dads profoundly dislike their spouses and argue with them all the time. Most of them are actually separated (although in a few rare cases they can be in a stable relationship a cool gamer wife / fellow sex-haver). Now what is the theme of D4? Pursuing and killing a mother who got in a disagreement with a dad. We could not relate more.
Finally, dads are nostalgic. They yearn for a time where video games were about having fun, not excel spreadsheets. They don't care that the sorcerer meta is very limited. They are just happy to be casting little bolts of lightning. Unlike you, most of them are not on Adderall and can tolerate a 10 second cooldown.
So in conclusion, please stop with all the dads vs no-lifers endless debates. This game was clearly made for dads. We have so little left, please let us have this one game.
Edit : seeing all the messages from fellow dadsTM who are touching grass and tapping ass really warms my heart. The min/maxing nerds must really feel small this morning.
Yes. They always whinge about kids, no time to play, are shit at games and then compare shit to 20 years ago.
>Playing diablo 3 or 4
When will people ever learn?
>Neko da
>new dad
>is condescending to people on the Internet
>pfp looks like he'd turn his kid gay
>neko
>da(d)
yeah, don't play my game gaybag
>only an hour a day to game
get fricked, pleb
>fill the map with hundreds of thingalings you need to explore and unlock to have a character that doesn't shit the bed in NM dungeons
>bro just do this over and over and over and over again each season it's only like 2 weeks off your life bro just leave your job lmao
Even elden ring doesn't do that shit, you can just beeline to the items you need and ignore 90% of game and still kick ass in PvP or coop
The campaign can be skipped entirely. The bonuses from Altars will carry over. The map discovery will carry over. Waypoints will carry over.
All you need to do are strongholds and dungeons.
>reject modernity
>embrace tradition
Come home gamer dads