Are these remakes a good way to play through gen 1 or should I play the original GB games first?

Are these remakes a good way to play through gen 1 or should I play the original GB games first?

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    you should unironically play Let's Go

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      definitely dont play lets go if its your first time playing a pokemon game. gba remakes are perfect

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The original games are fine to play just to see them, but FRLG are also fine. They do their jobs as remakes to update and add things without being overbearing about it like ORAS or something, I prefer to replay them over the originals.

      Not really good as your first gen 1 game since they change a lot

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        ORAS are vastly superior remakes compared to FRLG because they actually add things of value (post-game side quest which expands upon Rayquaza and Deoxys, expanded Pokedex, fixed the Rival character arc that just sort of vanishes in the originals, incorporates Megas into the main game).
        Now, is ORAS worth playing over Emerald? It's debatable and depends on if you value presentation or content more, but ORAS still has something to offer. FRLG are worthless games.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          FRLG updates the mechanics, adds extra content for post-game, and obviously makes it compatible for trading with the other games, removing almost every issue I have with RBY. It does exactly what a remake should and then it fricks off.
          Can't say the same for ORAS. In the first place, it didn't even really need a remake, since the only meaningful mechanical change made between gen 3 and gen 6 was the physical/special split. It then discards Emerald, doesn't do anything to fix RSE's biggest issue in the dull water routes which is the biggest justification you could have had for a remake, and has questionable changes and additions like gen 6's unbalanced exp share and having mega evolving legendaries forced into your party or whatever the frick was going on with the story. I can still understand liking it, since it does add other positive things like the PSS and dexnav, it's just a mixed bag and no what I would consider an ideal remake.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >FRLG updates the mechanics
            It changes them for better or worse
            >adds extra content for post-game
            All garbage filler designed to waste your time.
            >makes it compatible for trading with the other games
            Not relevant if you're only playing one Gen 3 game.
            >removing almost every issue I have with RBY.
            >Abloobloobloo I can't stand same type pokemon being a good answer to status inflicting attacking moves, hyper beam actually being useful, and ice being a genuinely strong type ;_;
            >since the only meaningful mechanical change made between gen 3 and gen 6 was the physical/special split.
            Megas, expanded ability pool, new evolutions.
            >no what I would consider an ideal remake.
            It's not, but unlike FRLG it justifies its own existence. Literally all FRLG offers is appeasing people that can't handle how soulful Gen 1 is.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Clearly an inflammatory bait post, but I am interested in seeing your explanations for how gen 1 is in any way better mechanically, and how mostly optional additional gameplay is a waste of time but the Delta episode is worthwhile content

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >but I am interested in seeing your explanations for how gen 1 is in any way better mechanically,
                Not strictly better, but different. It's a game with mechanics completely unique to it which makes it worth playing since you don't get that experience from other games. FRLG mechanically is just a Gen 3 game, but if you want Gen 3 then just play the vastly superior Hoenn games, which are actually built and balanced around the system changes.
                >how mostly optional additional gameplay is a waste
                It's not optional if you want the nat dex and final dungeon.
                >but the Delta episode is worthwhile content
                Expanded upon several story elements, integrated Rayquaza into RS in a way that was vastly superior to "uhhh he's up a tower I guess", gave the player access to Deoxys in a climatic as frick encounter (which, as a side note, god damn does ORAS have an amazing ost), and introduced a character who, love her or hate her, was an incredibly memorable addition to the game.
                FRLG fails to recapture the simplistic yet unique charm of Gen 1, while failing to add anything compelling to it. It is a failure as both a remake and a remaster, and even as a Gen 3 game every other mainline game shits all over it. A completely worthless game. The only reason people defend it is because homosexuals have always placed all of Gen 3 on a pedestal.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Expanded upon several story elements, integrated Rayquaza into RS in a way that was vastly superior to "uhhh he's up a tower I guess", gave the player access to Deoxys in a climatic as frick encounter (which, as a side note, god damn does ORAS have an amazing ost), and introduced a character who, love her or hate her, was an incredibly memorable addition to the game.
                lmao

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Epic

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It's not optional if you want to do optional content
                Gee
                I'll just give another simple disagree on everything else. Good to know the kinds of people that don't like FRLG are the kind of people that would say Zinnia is a memorable character

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Play FRLG it has cool optional content!
                >But it's shit
                >Uhhh just don't do the optional content if you don't like it chud!
                You're ignoring your own arguments, and it still doesn't excuse content from the original game getting locked behind it.
                >are the kind of people that would say Zinnia is a memorable character
                She must be if she still manages to make you seethe.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >More ignorant inflammatory "arguments"
                Very cool

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I am simply treating you with the amount of respect you deserve.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >anyone who disagrees with me is seething
                You're telling on yourself.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >badmouthing ORAS
        Why tho. They are amazing.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      what the frick are you a special kind of moron or something

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        nvm i am i read that as pokemon go instead

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick no

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no wild battles

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Only for legendaries bro :^)

        >can only play it in waggle form

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lets go is honestly not a bad option if you dont like catching pokemon

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Play FRLG, a QoL hack of FR, or Yellow if you want the 90's Gameboy aesthetiv

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're pretty much gen 1 with extra post game content, so I'd say play these over gen 1

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, they're dog shit. They add nothing to Kanto of value while scrubbing away anything that makes Red/Blue worth revisiting. It is the definition of a soulless remake. Also the way it handles post-Gen 1 evolutions is fricking ass.

      The post game content is shit, if you want post-game Gen 3 gameplay Emerald is right fricking there.

      The only good thing about them are the Sevii islands.

      Sevii Islands are boring filler that are the complete antithesis of Gen 1 map design. Linear and slow as shit.
      >HURR BUT IT'S OPTIONAL
      Not if you want to catch Mewtwo lmao

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Not if you want to catch Mewtwo lmao
        Just use surf and walk into the cave.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's locked off until you complete all of the Shitvi Island quests

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >FRLG apologists haven't even played the game
          lmao

          BWs OSTis overrated. The only really memorable and great song is the Plasma Battle theme.
          Gen 6s OST curbstomps it.

          BW has the best town themes in the series though.

          might be my favorite town theme in the series, along with Azalea Town.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Not if you want to catch Mewtwo lmao
        Oh boo hoo. You aren't leveled enough to catch him right after the League anyway. You aren't a Masterballgay, are you?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >He can't catch level 70 legendaries with a team of 50-60 mons
          Not going to make it.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >He IS a Masterballgay
            FRLG Mewtwo has pressure and recovers while also using safeguard and spamming Swift and Psychic.
            He will toast your team while you are catching it.
            Real gods catch their legends with premier/pokeballs.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              ok non-player.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I 100% FRLG and caught Mewtwo more times when i was 8 than you probably did your whole life.

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only good thing about them are the Sevii islands.

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer to play the originals in their original aesthetic, but the remakes are fine if you don't care about the aesthetic, and as a bonus there's more content.

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    the remakes are more insanely gay than a troony in a straight jacket locked up in a white room in a mental asylum.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      But what if the tyranny likes the opposite sex. Wouldn't that mean they aren't gay at all?

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the original does it better
    Abilities and newer mechanics, status spam of gen 3, these all change the game a lot.
    There's some magic with the original. Did I enjoy fire red? Frick yeah. But I think you should play the original either way.
    Let's go is actually really cool because it looks great and you see pokemon in the overworld, you can avoid them or encounter them, up to you. But don't play it first imo.

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I somehow managed to reproduce, and I'm legit locked on which one I should make him play first when he will be old enough for vidya.
    FRLG, Emerald, or S/M.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Emerald

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pokemon?
      >yeah my autistic dad made me play a bunch of it
      Make your children do useful things and let them find their own hobbies.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not making him play OG Red first
      You're already gimping his imagination and problem solving skills
      When my son is 5 I'm handing him my GB color and my copy of Red

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >S/M
      This should seriously be considered child abuse. If only parenting required an IQ test.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have nostalgia for Emerald, but it was the worst out of the Battle Frontiers because you couldn't reduce in level. If I were you, I'd play along with him and help him catch 'em all with trades, and then after he does so, reveal that there are more pokemon in gen 2. Play up through all of the gens carrying your pokemon to the next games. Gotta catch 'em all.

      Make sure to show him box art to have him pick a version. Also remember that he will outgrow Pokemon by middle school and it might become cool again in high school. I remember Pokemon had died out for me and then Go game out and it was okay to like Pokemon again.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Red or Blue
      HGSS
      Platinum
      BW
      B2W2
      ORAS
      In that order.

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah they are. They are pretty much straight upgrades to the original.

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Are these remakes a good way to play through gen 1
    No because they're gen 3, not gen 1. Gen 1 and gen 3 mechanically couldn't be more different. If you want to play gen 1, play the gen 1 games. If you prefer gen 3 mechanics, stick to the remakes.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why reply if you have no idea what OP is saying?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why reply when you're fricking moronic and should have a nice day by drowning in your bathtub

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >no u
          Didn't mean to upset you, esl homie. Just trying to get you to consider being less autistic.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      They barely updated the movepools over gen 1 and no breeding so you can't even put on egg moves if your autistic enough to do that.
      Abilites are 100% fricking godawful for Kanto mons, they straight do nothing.

      The special atk/def spilt fricks over a lot of pokemon. Gyarados for example gets cucked hard.

      Frick the nature's too. Nothing I hate worse than spending an hour catching a shitmon only to get fricked over on a low iv roll and a shit nature on top of it.

      Kanto mons were designed around gen 1 "mechanics" and the old dv system.
      >Verification not required.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Gen 1 and gen 3 mechanically couldn't be more different.
      Not really, 1 and 3 are closer than 3 and like 4 or 5

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Holy fricking moron. 3 and 4 are incredibly similar, 4 just has power creep thanks to the physical special split fricking things up. The jump between 2 and 3 is by far the largest divergence in core gameplay in the series to date. Nothing comes close.

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >empty ass plains and trainers with three identical glooms
    gen 3 learnsets
    if you're desperate to experience kanto, the best way to do so would be
    HGSS and... Pokemon Snap!

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Play it if you want ruined aesthetics, ruined music and ruined gameplay

    There is not a single videogame remake that doesn't frick up something one way or another. Have some fricking respect for the original craft

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    if anything you should play red and blue with an hack that restores the graphics of the japanese red and green

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ruined gameplay
      In what way? RBGY were buggy and glitchy

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Too many new additions from Ruby and Sapphire. It should've just stayed purely at Genwun.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          You mean gen 2. Special stat was always dumb

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Always play Gen 1 first so you don't end up a moron like who parrots bullshit about the game without ever having actually played it.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nosalgia truly is one hell of a drug

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Go back.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              >if I close my eyes the issues don't exist

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                if i play the games the issues are irrelevant

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not actually playing games you're crying about is truly is one hell of a drug

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              This is still moronic for two reasons, for one, the ones labelled "not a bug" were clearly programmed to be the way they are, but are still moronic mechanics. I'll take my new-found knowledge of the R/G/B safari zone, for example; the safari ball is supposed to be on-par with the ultra ball, but it's not actually, it doesn't work the way it's intended to at all. You're also supposed to use the rock or bait in order to increase your catch chance, too. The problem, due to a massively moronic over-sight, the box that pops up "the pokemon is eating" or "the pokemon is angry" resets the counter that is supposed to increase catch chance because that counts as a turn making it near-impossible to increase catch chance above a certain number. This was fixed in Yellow and future games, obviously. Two, these mechanics are just out-right moronic anyway and defending such mechanics makes you moronic. Why is it okay for a pokemon to never recover from being frozen, unless hit by a fire move? Most of these mechanics they realized how dumb they were and fixed them in future games. Or breeding in Gen 2, they realized how bad it was and fixed it in future games, because it's a very slim chance to get an egg from two breeding pokemon in G/S/C (between 3-30%, depending on species and trainer, increased to 20-70% every 256 steps in gen 3).

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the safari ball is supposed to be on-par with the ultra ball
                source?

                >Why is it okay for a pokemon to never recover from being frozen, unless hit by a fire move
                Why is it not okay?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        - disgusting gender and breeding mechanics that turn the game into a eugenics simulator and break all suspension of disbelief with things like rocks and plants and sludge reproducing like that, cubone born with dead mother skull when the mom is at the daycare, kangaskhan with baby, completely different species mating, etc...
        - fossils at level 5 instead of 25, good look using leveling up those pokemon when you're already at the 7th gym
        - ridiculous handholding in the thirsty guard quest
        - speaking of handholding, teachy tv lmao
        - terrible new types, as if ground and rock aren't already overlapping enough let's add another mineral based type, dark is as ambiguous and ridiculous as fairy, as if gengar ,hypno, etc aren't more evil tricksters than umbreon
        - speaking of umbreon way to ruin the eeveelution concept, they were ambiguous beasts with a straight up classical elemental rpg affinity - fire, electric, water... psychic!? and evil!? and they don't even evolve via stone lmao. and espeon is a straight up yokai cat ruining the beastly ambiguity of the line
        - but those are hardly the worst crossgen gen 2 evolutions that are now part of the game's universe in the remake
        - and so are all the new pokemon with pig disgusting designs
        - romhack tier islands completely break the pace of your quest ("b-b-but you can say no!" if the game prompts you to something you're natural reaction is to say yes, it's not the player's job to know that if you do what the game prompts you to do it's gonna frick shit up, it shouldn't be there period. And regardless of when you chose to visits the fanfiction island, they are still terrible and gathering magic crystals goes against the high tech scifi feel of gen 1
        - I wanted to go on but I'm tired of typing and all this will go over your head anyway

        >b-b-b-but muh glitches!
        fixing those does not make up for everything else they eviscerated

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          You were so close. You had a few legit criticisms for FRLG but went full genwunner moronation

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >- disgusting gender and breeding mechanics that turn the game into a eugenics simulator and break all suspension of disbelief
          You come out with this as your opener and you expect me to read the rest?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Game about bonding with your pet-like monsters
            >Keep forcing them to shit out eggs ad nauseum until you get what you want and discard the rest

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              If that bothers you then you should be blaming the actual problem, which is IVs, that have always existed in the series purely to make your pet-like monsters objectively, numerically worse than others in a game that offers PVP.
              For a game about raising monsters, breeding is a very natural conclusion and not at all immersion breaking considering such people exist IRL.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >speaking of umbreon way to ruin the eeveelution concept, they were ambiguous beasts with a straight up classical elemental rpg affinity - fire, electric, water... psychic!? and evil!? and they don't even evolve via stone lmao. and espeon is a straight up yokai cat ruining the beastly ambiguity of the line
          Patterngays lmao

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 1 or FRLG are both fine

  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    lol

  16. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    big lol

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Red looks awful in FRLG, the sprite's head looks very strange.

  17. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 1 is a good way to play through Gen 1. The Gen 3 remakes are a good way to play through Gen 3. As remakes, they're fine, I just wish they reinterpreted Kanto's environments to be more varied.

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    If.you never played gen 1 then no, absolutely not..they are first and foremost gen 3 games and far from an accurate representation of the classic experience

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The music takes a massive dip in quality. It's depressing really

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >depressing
      More like tragic

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is what I was going to say. The music in FR/LG is not good. If you could do GB Player in FR/LG. I'd be quick to recommend it.

      The feel of the whole thing is different, Gen 1 has a grittier feel. But you still wouldn't need to play them both. I'd rec Gen 1, but Gen 3 is "better."

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      i'm nostalgic for it despite acknowledging it's bad

  20. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's alright, it has the special physical split so it'll be easier to get into modern pokemon through them. I played red and Blue first when I was a little kid so that one shouldn't be much amof a challenge for you if you just want to go old school. It's definitely way easier than the remakes. It's probably because the game is so easy to cheese.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, goddamn, gen 3 didn't have the physical special split yet

  21. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone actually have any luck finding the gba games out in the wild? The local games store swear they get them but that they usually sell by the next day. Ebay prices are a joke and emulators don't do it for me.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Garage sales and boomers
      Perfect combo

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Stop hogging them!

  22. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The originals were already fun as frick that's why they blew up and sold so well. I think it's worth playing those first and then coming back way later for the remake

  23. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Play them and make your own opinion

  24. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    FRLG or LGPE are better than RBY in every single way. Both fix all the shitty bugs and dogshit movepools of gen 1.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bait post

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Posting the truth is bait
        Gens 1 and 2 have plenty of core issues outside of the fact gen 1 is a bug-ridden mess that looks like dogshit, the biggest one is movepools.

        Heracross in gen 2, for example, has a dogshit movepool in Gen 2 and even 3, but gen 4 gave it tons of great moves.

        Nidoking's movepool sucks shit in Gen 1, as does nidoqueen's, but by gen 4 they've fixed the problems - though it wasn't until fairy type when they came into their own.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >gen 1 looks like shit
          stopped reading there

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          > Heracross in gen 2, for example, has a dogshit movepool
          Relative to what?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Nidoking's movepool sucks shit in Gen 1
          homie Nidoking/queen have always had amazing movepools. The only major issue they have in Gen 1 is no Poison STAB but there also was no good Poison STAB moves in the game period and even if there was they wouldn't bother with a shit attacking type like Poison. Like yeah let's run Poison to hit, uh, Pinsir I guess? Tangela?
          >though it wasn't until fairy type when they came into their own.
          Absolutely moronic take from an underage gay that gets all his info from glancing at modern Smogon articles.

  25. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The gen 3 remakes are the best way to play the first games

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The gen 3 remakes are not the first games

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        You know what I mean. The first 2 gens don't even have the ability to run in the games

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >remakes good
      literally only /vp/ believes this, because this series conditioned them to be consoomers

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I seriously doubt that. The remakes are just better games and I say that as someone that started with Blue version in 1998. Better graphics, mechanics, movesets, actual post game, etc ...p

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Better graphics
          Lol they butchered the art direction. It's kind of sad just how clueless you people are

          >Hurr more color and more assets = looks better

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you really trying to argue that a Gameboy game looks better than a GBA game?

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Are you really trying to argue Avengers is more aesthetic than Ctizen Kane because it uses higher quality cameras and it's in color?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Please do explain some of these astounding, artistique decisions in Gen 1 that Gen 3 did away with

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Refer to

                lol

                . I won't spoonfeed you any further

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                so this.... is the power..... of gen one....... woaaahh...

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                zoomer so stupid he can't even interpret a sprite correctly

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                don't argue with morons

  26. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 1 is currently unplayable I'm afraid.
    The original games are glitchy messes lacking refinement.
    The Gen 3 remakes don't have the physical/special split which makes them worthless.
    Let's Go is for actual toddlers and aren't actually remakes, they're alt-timeline sequels.
    We'll have to wait until they remaster KANTOOOO again before you can play the og adventure.

  27. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't even bother, just play Emerald, Platinum and BW2 and then drop the series

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >just play [good game], [bad game], and [bad game] and then drop the series
      why tho?

  28. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of the game design changes because of it being effectively an RS ROMhack gameplay-wise. A big one is how a good portion of enemies now have contact-based Status that were made with PvP in mind for RS, but for an ingame run of FRLG this means you'll be going back and forth to heal because of constant status procs.
    By Gen 4 they learned from this mistake and added secondary abilities to most of these mons, with HGSS using those for enemy trainers to avoid the tedium.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a good portion of enemies now have contact-based Status that were made with PvP in mind for RS, but for an ingame run of FRLG this means you'll be going back and forth to heal because of constant status procs
      What's wrong with that though? It's an added layer of difficulty, and gives you a reason to use the thousands of antidotes, parlyz heals, etc you find throughout the game

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nothing wrong with that. Another point that anon could have brought up is that the TMs are the same as in RS, which for the most part means you get far weaker moves from them throughout the game (or there's a move tutor NPC added to the appropriate area that teaches you a gen 1 TM move). This combined with Pokemon levelup move learnsets being much improved over the gen 1 days means there's less of a gap between what the player's Pokemon can know versus the average NPC trainer's/wild Pokemon can, but I wouldn't say that's "wrong" either, it's just "different".

  29. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    originals have SOUL and ARE Pokémon
    remakegays cope harder

  30. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who started with gen 1 and is obsessed with it to the point where I hardly ever play other gens: If you have never played a Pokemon game. Play FRLG first. RSE is better as it got rid of a lot of slow animations that weren't needed. (Like when you give a TM or item to your Pokemon) RBY is very fun to abuse when you know how to glitch it, but as a stand alone there are things that FRLG does much better.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Suggesting FRLG for being faster
      Sure, if you ignore abilities going off, the forced tutorial shit, the slower walk speed, the god awful multi-hour sevii island side quests, and the game stopping and telling you that your Golbat is trying to evolve only to stop at the very last moment EVERY FRICKING TIME IT LEVELS UP JUST LET ME HAVE A CROBAT YOU SHITTY FRICKING KUSOGE

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >slower walk speed
        >when there's running
        Why is this thread in particular so full of disinformation?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget the "previously on" shit when you resume a save

  31. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literally soulless

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The cringiest part is the rpgmaker tier fog effect that magically goes over the confines of the room but doesn't cover characters

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lavender Town creeped me out as a kid. I knew nothing about the creepypastas or Lavender Town syndrome but I would mute the game when playing through there.

  32. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    HELL NO!
    >RBY has an all time great soundtrack, FRLG has GBA ear cancer.
    >RBY while primitive has graphics that are pleasing to look at and charming in design. FRLG graphics have a very harsh and ugly color palette, and uses the extremely watered down and commercialized aesthetics of the then contemporary anime season.
    >RBY is designed around its simplicity. Everything in both the UI and game design is quick and snappy, and the entire game is designed holistically so every moving piece works together seamlessly. FRLG on the other hand exists in an uncomfortable middle stage where it has a bunch of back ported features from later games that don't mesh with the original, while not being polished and fixed like Gen4 would be. everything is slow and clunky and inconvenient to access.
    >Relating to the above RBY has the uniqueness of being designed as a stand alone single player JRPG instead of a "Pokemon Game" like FRLG was. It offers a different focus from the rest of the series.

  33. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the best romhack of Red and Blue that keeps to the originals closely while giving QoL features?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shin Pokemon Red

  34. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I played FRLG, were pretty good games. I haven't touched the OG games though only because I'm superficial and they have no color

  35. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    originals are peak soul and charm but there's literally no reason to outright hate the remakes if you loved the originals.

  36. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus Christ this is legitimately embarrassing

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sailor got JUSTed so damn hard

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      and people still try to arguie soul/soulless is just a meme

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kanto vs Kantroon

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >
      Yea, the FRLG versions look respectable while the RB ones look like a meme romhack game. Actually romhacks look better.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've always wondered about Blue's hairdo in Red/Green/Blue versions. It looks completely different in his first two battle sprites, and then it looks like he gets a new hairdo (the iconic spiky one) for the champion match to match his new clothes complete with sick jacket. But then the official illustrations of him adopted the 'champion hair' for all depictions, and anime Gary, Yellow Blue and all future Blue designs were based on that as well.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Red and the Rival had Capumon remains in their designs, that Champion sprite was also a basis of his new OW sprites in Gen 2 games.
        This is also true for gymleaders (only Brock, Misty and Erika got updated in Yellow) in that none matches the official artwork of R/G.
        You can also notice some inconsistency in trainers’ OW sprites, notably Chaneller lacking her headwear, and other trainers being without their hats. TCRF described much of that well, sadly not all of it.

  37. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    homosexuals ITT shitting on the OST are truly on another level of stupid. Tell me you don't know anything about music without outright saying it. Go Ichinose is a MUCH better musician than Junichi Masuda, and nine times out of ten he takes Masuda's work and elevates it with new percussion, creative reharmonization, and rhythm/key changes that make older, more bare songs feel new.

    Only on fricking /vp/ will you see 'people' putting Masuda's work over Ichinose's.

  38. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly Masuda and Ichinose together work wonders. BW soundtrack was great for a reason

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      meant for

      homosexuals ITT shitting on the OST are truly on another level of stupid. Tell me you don't know anything about music without outright saying it. Go Ichinose is a MUCH better musician than Junichi Masuda, and nine times out of ten he takes Masuda's work and elevates it with new percussion, creative reharmonization, and rhythm/key changes that make older, more bare songs feel new.

      Only on fricking /vp/ will you see 'people' putting Masuda's work over Ichinose's.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      BWs OSTis overrated. The only really memorable and great song is the Plasma Battle theme.
      Gen 6s OST curbstomps it.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        XY's OST feels like the audio form of turning down the contrast on a picture
        Though music is the last thing on my mind when I think about mainline pokemon in general anyway, most of it is really forgettable.

  39. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >42 year olds ITT will actually tell you the RBY version is better

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      in a fricking heartbeat lmao

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I for one prefer this version

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      ruby/sapphire-tier trumpet mess. trying way too hard to sound epic

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I for one prefer this version

      this sounds like slop I could hear on a boss battle of a generic wacky sword and sorcery anime jrpg

      in a fricking heartbeat lmao

      this sound is unique to pokémon and hones in on the grounded contemporary scifi feel of the universe

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think BW2 version of world champion music is more like the classic version, you might like that one

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          too much trumpet and chanting. the problem seems to be that they keep trying to outdo and adding unique twists to the classic instead of simply remaking it with high fidelity in the better quality the hardware theoretically could allow

          [...]
          >IS THAT... PERCUSSION AND INSTRUMENTS???
          >NOOOOOOO!!!!! WHERE'S MY 3 CHANNEL 8 BIT TRACK WITH NO DISSONANCE!!!!
          >PREFERABLY UPLOADED WITH TONS OF REVERB TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE ITS COMING FROM A TIN ROOM

          I bet you were frothing at the mouth typing this. cope

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think its about outdoing the original, but trying to make something that fits with the overall soundtrack of the game its in. But I can see why you like/dislike these.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I like that, but this is my favorite

          ?si=Ep8e8MRQQf-QYcfL

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        in a fricking heartbeat lmao

        >IS THAT... PERCUSSION AND INSTRUMENTS???
        >NOOOOOOO!!!!! WHERE'S MY 3 CHANNEL 8 BIT TRACK WITH NO DISSONANCE!!!!
        >PREFERABLY UPLOADED WITH TONS OF REVERB TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE ITS COMING FROM A TIN ROOM

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Unique to pokemon
        >3 channel gb music
        Either a zoomer or an autist who doesn't
        play other gamss

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          moron are you sure it's not you who doesn't play other games? you underestimate how much diversity you can achieve on GB

          you're not gonna mistake this for pokémon music

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I wouldn't mistake this for pokemon music
            because these actually make good use of the soundchip to create an interesting soundscape
            gb pokemon music is bottom of the barrel garbo

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        It'd be a pretty unique sound if I pressed my hairy anus right to your ear and blew a wet shart into it but just because it's unique doesn't mean it's good

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm 35 and yeah they are, Zoomer.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      So much better it's not even funny,
      the re-harmonization makes the composition sound way more intimidating while the frantic
      percussion adds a depth to it the original can't
      match
      FRLG did some moronic shit but the music's
      much better

  40. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was only good back in 2004 - 2006
    It was a nice fair well to the series if you started with red / blue in 1999

    It was the last thing I played
    And the wireless trading was pretty cool with the extra GBA plugin tool

    Now I’d rather just play Red / Blue if I’m going to replay through gen 1

  41. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    big yikes

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I never got that random-ass maze in either game. It's not a challenge at all if you happen to pick the right side, and annoying if you don't.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus Christ this is legitimately embarrassing

      They really were hellbent on sucking every ounce of soul from the game

  42. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Play Gen 1, FRLG is the same shit with worse mechanics and the soul removed

  43. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The older I get the more I dislike Gen 3. The games are so fricking ugly and that's comparing them to Gen 1. FRLG suffered so hard from being empty and lmao you can't even get later Gen's evolutions like Crobat without the National Dex so hope you don't spend time using Golbat hoping it'll evolve before Elite Four. Not to mention the Sevii Islands suck shit and slow down the main story.

    To answer your question: I agree with the Let's Go gay. Or play Yellow and pretend you're Ass Ketchup. I replayed the game last month for the first time since 1999 and it was fun (although filling the Pokedex took too frickin long).

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >slow the main quest
      >10 minute back and forth
      lol parroted complaints by non-players, probably discord troons

  44. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.romhacking.net/translations/2478/

  45. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    As someone that loved gen 1 and FR/LG, how are HG/SS?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Filled with content but SLOW as frick. Wouldn't recommend without an emulator.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      People suck off HGSS as the best game in the series so there's your answer
      It has the gen 4 slowness but at least it also gives you an autorun toggle so you're always moving at a more reasonable speed

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      just speed it up with hacks

  46. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw listening to these clearly inferior remakes
    >especially SS Anne, which was so much better on GB, an obvious fact to everyone

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      FRLG OST is better in almost every way.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Damn right, I especially love the Sevii Islands music

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          TALK to em!
          Sevii islands is S O V L

          >FRLG apologists haven't even played the game
          lmao

          [...]
          BW has the best town themes in the series though.

          might be my favorite town theme in the series, along with Azalea Town.

          I can't remember a single town theme in BW despite the fact I know I liked Castelia's theme. Yet I can't remember it off the cuff.

  47. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I played FRLG, never touched the OGs and I'm already a quarter into HGSS. Directly comparing FRLG to Emerald, it feels like the former got hit harder with the ugly stick, but I did enjoy the game regardless. The flashback feature was cute but I could see why it eventually grated. I definitely appreciated some abilities pokemon had (fukkin love Clear Body) and despised a few others (Levitate), and the only bad moveset I had to deal with was Venusaur's. It's definitely something I'd play again in a different direction someday, but maybe in a revisit I'd play the originals just to see what theyre like.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >never touched the OGs
      So this is why the board is in the state that it is

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dont give me so much credit. I think it was like this WAYYY before I showed up.

  48. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're fine remakes.
    The story is just RBY with an added sidequest.
    The older RBY might be harder to get into if you're used to the QOL of later games like running shoes and an easy to use pokemon storage system that doesn't make you save between box switches.
    I personally prefer the aesthetic of the originals but the remakes are easier to get into.

  49. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are good games to play if you've never played gen 1, but you should honestly play RED first (only homosexuals chose blue) and then after a while play YELLOW (especially if you like the first season of the anime) . Then you should play either fire red or leaf green. My honest opinion

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but you should honestly play RED first
      based

      >and then after a while play YELLOW
      cringe

  50. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, they're gen 3 games, so if you actually care about playing gen 1, then play gen 1. Whether you actually care about splitting hairs like that, I don't know, but that's what you asked. If you like Pokemon in general, I'd recommend you to play both originals and remakes anyway. There's a lot of fun observations to make about the differences in design along the way, and you get to play two fun video games instead of one.

  51. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    which one, /vp/?
    https://strawpoll.com/NPgxELW8AZ2

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