The original games are fine to play just to see them, but FRLG are also fine. They do their jobs as remakes to update and add things without being overbearing about it like ORAS or something, I prefer to replay them over the originals.
Not really good as your first gen 1 game since they change a lot
ORAS are vastly superior remakes compared to FRLG because they actually add things of value (post-game side quest which expands upon Rayquaza and Deoxys, expanded Pokedex, fixed the Rival character arc that just sort of vanishes in the originals, incorporates Megas into the main game).
Now, is ORAS worth playing over Emerald? It's debatable and depends on if you value presentation or content more, but ORAS still has something to offer. FRLG are worthless games.
FRLG updates the mechanics, adds extra content for post-game, and obviously makes it compatible for trading with the other games, removing almost every issue I have with RBY. It does exactly what a remake should and then it fricks off.
Can't say the same for ORAS. In the first place, it didn't even really need a remake, since the only meaningful mechanical change made between gen 3 and gen 6 was the physical/special split. It then discards Emerald, doesn't do anything to fix RSE's biggest issue in the dull water routes which is the biggest justification you could have had for a remake, and has questionable changes and additions like gen 6's unbalanced exp share and having mega evolving legendaries forced into your party or whatever the frick was going on with the story. I can still understand liking it, since it does add other positive things like the PSS and dexnav, it's just a mixed bag and no what I would consider an ideal remake.
>FRLG updates the mechanics
It changes them for better or worse >adds extra content for post-game
All garbage filler designed to waste your time. >makes it compatible for trading with the other games
Not relevant if you're only playing one Gen 3 game. >removing almost every issue I have with RBY. >Abloobloobloo I can't stand same type pokemon being a good answer to status inflicting attacking moves, hyper beam actually being useful, and ice being a genuinely strong type ;_; >since the only meaningful mechanical change made between gen 3 and gen 6 was the physical/special split.
Megas, expanded ability pool, new evolutions. >no what I would consider an ideal remake.
It's not, but unlike FRLG it justifies its own existence. Literally all FRLG offers is appeasing people that can't handle how soulful Gen 1 is.
Clearly an inflammatory bait post, but I am interested in seeing your explanations for how gen 1 is in any way better mechanically, and how mostly optional additional gameplay is a waste of time but the Delta episode is worthwhile content
9 months ago
Anonymous
>but I am interested in seeing your explanations for how gen 1 is in any way better mechanically,
Not strictly better, but different. It's a game with mechanics completely unique to it which makes it worth playing since you don't get that experience from other games. FRLG mechanically is just a Gen 3 game, but if you want Gen 3 then just play the vastly superior Hoenn games, which are actually built and balanced around the system changes. >how mostly optional additional gameplay is a waste
It's not optional if you want the nat dex and final dungeon. >but the Delta episode is worthwhile content
Expanded upon several story elements, integrated Rayquaza into RS in a way that was vastly superior to "uhhh he's up a tower I guess", gave the player access to Deoxys in a climatic as frick encounter (which, as a side note, god damn does ORAS have an amazing ost), and introduced a character who, love her or hate her, was an incredibly memorable addition to the game.
FRLG fails to recapture the simplistic yet unique charm of Gen 1, while failing to add anything compelling to it. It is a failure as both a remake and a remaster, and even as a Gen 3 game every other mainline game shits all over it. A completely worthless game. The only reason people defend it is because homosexuals have always placed all of Gen 3 on a pedestal.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Expanded upon several story elements, integrated Rayquaza into RS in a way that was vastly superior to "uhhh he's up a tower I guess", gave the player access to Deoxys in a climatic as frick encounter (which, as a side note, god damn does ORAS have an amazing ost), and introduced a character who, love her or hate her, was an incredibly memorable addition to the game.
lmao
9 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Epic
9 months ago
Anonymous
>It's not optional if you want to do optional content
Gee
I'll just give another simple disagree on everything else. Good to know the kinds of people that don't like FRLG are the kind of people that would say Zinnia is a memorable character
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Play FRLG it has cool optional content! >But it's shit >Uhhh just don't do the optional content if you don't like it chud!
You're ignoring your own arguments, and it still doesn't excuse content from the original game getting locked behind it. >are the kind of people that would say Zinnia is a memorable character
She must be if she still manages to make you seethe.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>More ignorant inflammatory "arguments"
Very cool
9 months ago
Anonymous
I am simply treating you with the amount of respect you deserve.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>anyone who disagrees with me is seething
You're telling on yourself.
No, they're dog shit. They add nothing to Kanto of value while scrubbing away anything that makes Red/Blue worth revisiting. It is the definition of a soulless remake. Also the way it handles post-Gen 1 evolutions is fricking ass.
The post game content is shit, if you want post-game Gen 3 gameplay Emerald is right fricking there.
The only good thing about them are the Sevii islands.
Sevii Islands are boring filler that are the complete antithesis of Gen 1 map design. Linear and slow as shit. >HURR BUT IT'S OPTIONAL
Not if you want to catch Mewtwo lmao
>Not if you want to catch Mewtwo lmao
Oh boo hoo. You aren't leveled enough to catch him right after the League anyway. You aren't a Masterballgay, are you?
>He IS a Masterballgay
FRLG Mewtwo has pressure and recovers while also using safeguard and spamming Swift and Psychic.
He will toast your team while you are catching it.
Real gods catch their legends with premier/pokeballs.
I prefer to play the originals in their original aesthetic, but the remakes are fine if you don't care about the aesthetic, and as a bonus there's more content.
I think the original does it better
Abilities and newer mechanics, status spam of gen 3, these all change the game a lot.
There's some magic with the original. Did I enjoy fire red? Frick yeah. But I think you should play the original either way.
Let's go is actually really cool because it looks great and you see pokemon in the overworld, you can avoid them or encounter them, up to you. But don't play it first imo.
I somehow managed to reproduce, and I'm legit locked on which one I should make him play first when he will be old enough for vidya.
FRLG, Emerald, or S/M.
>not making him play OG Red first
You're already gimping his imagination and problem solving skills
When my son is 5 I'm handing him my GB color and my copy of Red
I have nostalgia for Emerald, but it was the worst out of the Battle Frontiers because you couldn't reduce in level. If I were you, I'd play along with him and help him catch 'em all with trades, and then after he does so, reveal that there are more pokemon in gen 2. Play up through all of the gens carrying your pokemon to the next games. Gotta catch 'em all.
Make sure to show him box art to have him pick a version. Also remember that he will outgrow Pokemon by middle school and it might become cool again in high school. I remember Pokemon had died out for me and then Go game out and it was okay to like Pokemon again.
>Are these remakes a good way to play through gen 1
No because they're gen 3, not gen 1. Gen 1 and gen 3 mechanically couldn't be more different. If you want to play gen 1, play the gen 1 games. If you prefer gen 3 mechanics, stick to the remakes.
This.
They barely updated the movepools over gen 1 and no breeding so you can't even put on egg moves if your autistic enough to do that.
Abilites are 100% fricking godawful for Kanto mons, they straight do nothing.
The special atk/def spilt fricks over a lot of pokemon. Gyarados for example gets cucked hard.
Frick the nature's too. Nothing I hate worse than spending an hour catching a shitmon only to get fricked over on a low iv roll and a shit nature on top of it.
Kanto mons were designed around gen 1 "mechanics" and the old dv system. >Verification not required.
Holy fricking moron. 3 and 4 are incredibly similar, 4 just has power creep thanks to the physical special split fricking things up. The jump between 2 and 3 is by far the largest divergence in core gameplay in the series to date. Nothing comes close.
>empty ass plains and trainers with three identical glooms
gen 3 learnsets
if you're desperate to experience kanto, the best way to do so would be
HGSS and... Pokemon Snap!
This is still moronic for two reasons, for one, the ones labelled "not a bug" were clearly programmed to be the way they are, but are still moronic mechanics. I'll take my new-found knowledge of the R/G/B safari zone, for example; the safari ball is supposed to be on-par with the ultra ball, but it's not actually, it doesn't work the way it's intended to at all. You're also supposed to use the rock or bait in order to increase your catch chance, too. The problem, due to a massively moronic over-sight, the box that pops up "the pokemon is eating" or "the pokemon is angry" resets the counter that is supposed to increase catch chance because that counts as a turn making it near-impossible to increase catch chance above a certain number. This was fixed in Yellow and future games, obviously. Two, these mechanics are just out-right moronic anyway and defending such mechanics makes you moronic. Why is it okay for a pokemon to never recover from being frozen, unless hit by a fire move? Most of these mechanics they realized how dumb they were and fixed them in future games. Or breeding in Gen 2, they realized how bad it was and fixed it in future games, because it's a very slim chance to get an egg from two breeding pokemon in G/S/C (between 3-30%, depending on species and trainer, increased to 20-70% every 256 steps in gen 3).
9 months ago
Anonymous
>the safari ball is supposed to be on-par with the ultra ball
source?
>Why is it okay for a pokemon to never recover from being frozen, unless hit by a fire move
Why is it not okay?
- disgusting gender and breeding mechanics that turn the game into a eugenics simulator and break all suspension of disbelief with things like rocks and plants and sludge reproducing like that, cubone born with dead mother skull when the mom is at the daycare, kangaskhan with baby, completely different species mating, etc...
- fossils at level 5 instead of 25, good look using leveling up those pokemon when you're already at the 7th gym
- ridiculous handholding in the thirsty guard quest
- speaking of handholding, teachy tv lmao
- terrible new types, as if ground and rock aren't already overlapping enough let's add another mineral based type, dark is as ambiguous and ridiculous as fairy, as if gengar ,hypno, etc aren't more evil tricksters than umbreon
- speaking of umbreon way to ruin the eeveelution concept, they were ambiguous beasts with a straight up classical elemental rpg affinity - fire, electric, water... psychic!? and evil!? and they don't even evolve via stone lmao. and espeon is a straight up yokai cat ruining the beastly ambiguity of the line
- but those are hardly the worst crossgen gen 2 evolutions that are now part of the game's universe in the remake
- and so are all the new pokemon with pig disgusting designs
- romhack tier islands completely break the pace of your quest ("b-b-but you can say no!" if the game prompts you to something you're natural reaction is to say yes, it's not the player's job to know that if you do what the game prompts you to do it's gonna frick shit up, it shouldn't be there period. And regardless of when you chose to visits the fanfiction island, they are still terrible and gathering magic crystals goes against the high tech scifi feel of gen 1
- I wanted to go on but I'm tired of typing and all this will go over your head anyway
>b-b-b-but muh glitches!
fixing those does not make up for everything else they eviscerated
>- disgusting gender and breeding mechanics that turn the game into a eugenics simulator and break all suspension of disbelief
You come out with this as your opener and you expect me to read the rest?
If that bothers you then you should be blaming the actual problem, which is IVs, that have always existed in the series purely to make your pet-like monsters objectively, numerically worse than others in a game that offers PVP.
For a game about raising monsters, breeding is a very natural conclusion and not at all immersion breaking considering such people exist IRL.
>speaking of umbreon way to ruin the eeveelution concept, they were ambiguous beasts with a straight up classical elemental rpg affinity - fire, electric, water... psychic!? and evil!? and they don't even evolve via stone lmao. and espeon is a straight up yokai cat ruining the beastly ambiguity of the line
Patterngays lmao
Gen 1 is a good way to play through Gen 1. The Gen 3 remakes are a good way to play through Gen 3. As remakes, they're fine, I just wish they reinterpreted Kanto's environments to be more varied.
If.you never played gen 1 then no, absolutely not..they are first and foremost gen 3 games and far from an accurate representation of the classic experience
This is what I was going to say. The music in FR/LG is not good. If you could do GB Player in FR/LG. I'd be quick to recommend it.
The feel of the whole thing is different, Gen 1 has a grittier feel. But you still wouldn't need to play them both. I'd rec Gen 1, but Gen 3 is "better."
It's alright, it has the special physical split so it'll be easier to get into modern pokemon through them. I played red and Blue first when I was a little kid so that one shouldn't be much amof a challenge for you if you just want to go old school. It's definitely way easier than the remakes. It's probably because the game is so easy to cheese.
Anyone actually have any luck finding the gba games out in the wild? The local games store swear they get them but that they usually sell by the next day. Ebay prices are a joke and emulators don't do it for me.
The originals were already fun as frick that's why they blew up and sold so well. I think it's worth playing those first and then coming back way later for the remake
>Posting the truth is bait
Gens 1 and 2 have plenty of core issues outside of the fact gen 1 is a bug-ridden mess that looks like dogshit, the biggest one is movepools.
Heracross in gen 2, for example, has a dogshit movepool in Gen 2 and even 3, but gen 4 gave it tons of great moves.
Nidoking's movepool sucks shit in Gen 1, as does nidoqueen's, but by gen 4 they've fixed the problems - though it wasn't until fairy type when they came into their own.
>Nidoking's movepool sucks shit in Gen 1
homie Nidoking/queen have always had amazing movepools. The only major issue they have in Gen 1 is no Poison STAB but there also was no good Poison STAB moves in the game period and even if there was they wouldn't bother with a shit attacking type like Poison. Like yeah let's run Poison to hit, uh, Pinsir I guess? Tangela? >though it wasn't until fairy type when they came into their own.
Absolutely moronic take from an underage gay that gets all his info from glancing at modern Smogon articles.
I seriously doubt that. The remakes are just better games and I say that as someone that started with Blue version in 1998. Better graphics, mechanics, movesets, actual post game, etc ...p
Gen 1 is currently unplayable I'm afraid.
The original games are glitchy messes lacking refinement.
The Gen 3 remakes don't have the physical/special split which makes them worthless.
Let's Go is for actual toddlers and aren't actually remakes, they're alt-timeline sequels.
We'll have to wait until they remaster KANTOOOO again before you can play the og adventure.
A lot of the game design changes because of it being effectively an RS ROMhack gameplay-wise. A big one is how a good portion of enemies now have contact-based Status that were made with PvP in mind for RS, but for an ingame run of FRLG this means you'll be going back and forth to heal because of constant status procs.
By Gen 4 they learned from this mistake and added secondary abilities to most of these mons, with HGSS using those for enemy trainers to avoid the tedium.
>a good portion of enemies now have contact-based Status that were made with PvP in mind for RS, but for an ingame run of FRLG this means you'll be going back and forth to heal because of constant status procs
What's wrong with that though? It's an added layer of difficulty, and gives you a reason to use the thousands of antidotes, parlyz heals, etc you find throughout the game
Nothing wrong with that. Another point that anon could have brought up is that the TMs are the same as in RS, which for the most part means you get far weaker moves from them throughout the game (or there's a move tutor NPC added to the appropriate area that teaches you a gen 1 TM move). This combined with Pokemon levelup move learnsets being much improved over the gen 1 days means there's less of a gap between what the player's Pokemon can know versus the average NPC trainer's/wild Pokemon can, but I wouldn't say that's "wrong" either, it's just "different".
As someone who started with gen 1 and is obsessed with it to the point where I hardly ever play other gens: If you have never played a Pokemon game. Play FRLG first. RSE is better as it got rid of a lot of slow animations that weren't needed. (Like when you give a TM or item to your Pokemon) RBY is very fun to abuse when you know how to glitch it, but as a stand alone there are things that FRLG does much better.
>Suggesting FRLG for being faster
Sure, if you ignore abilities going off, the forced tutorial shit, the slower walk speed, the god awful multi-hour sevii island side quests, and the game stopping and telling you that your Golbat is trying to evolve only to stop at the very last moment EVERY FRICKING TIME IT LEVELS UP JUST LET ME HAVE A CROBAT YOU SHITTY FRICKING KUSOGE
Lavender Town creeped me out as a kid. I knew nothing about the creepypastas or Lavender Town syndrome but I would mute the game when playing through there.
HELL NO! >RBY has an all time great soundtrack, FRLG has GBA ear cancer. >RBY while primitive has graphics that are pleasing to look at and charming in design. FRLG graphics have a very harsh and ugly color palette, and uses the extremely watered down and commercialized aesthetics of the then contemporary anime season. >RBY is designed around its simplicity. Everything in both the UI and game design is quick and snappy, and the entire game is designed holistically so every moving piece works together seamlessly. FRLG on the other hand exists in an uncomfortable middle stage where it has a bunch of back ported features from later games that don't mesh with the original, while not being polished and fixed like Gen4 would be. everything is slow and clunky and inconvenient to access. >Relating to the above RBY has the uniqueness of being designed as a stand alone single player JRPG instead of a "Pokemon Game" like FRLG was. It offers a different focus from the rest of the series.
I've always wondered about Blue's hairdo in Red/Green/Blue versions. It looks completely different in his first two battle sprites, and then it looks like he gets a new hairdo (the iconic spiky one) for the champion match to match his new clothes complete with sick jacket. But then the official illustrations of him adopted the 'champion hair' for all depictions, and anime Gary, Yellow Blue and all future Blue designs were based on that as well.
Red and the Rival had Capumon remains in their designs, that Champion sprite was also a basis of his new OW sprites in Gen 2 games.
This is also true for gymleaders (only Brock, Misty and Erika got updated in Yellow) in that none matches the official artwork of R/G.
You can also notice some inconsistency in trainers’ OW sprites, notably Chaneller lacking her headwear, and other trainers being without their hats. TCRF described much of that well, sadly not all of it.
homosexuals ITT shitting on the OST are truly on another level of stupid. Tell me you don't know anything about music without outright saying it. Go Ichinose is a MUCH better musician than Junichi Masuda, and nine times out of ten he takes Masuda's work and elevates it with new percussion, creative reharmonization, and rhythm/key changes that make older, more bare songs feel new.
Only on fricking /vp/ will you see 'people' putting Masuda's work over Ichinose's.
homosexuals ITT shitting on the OST are truly on another level of stupid. Tell me you don't know anything about music without outright saying it. Go Ichinose is a MUCH better musician than Junichi Masuda, and nine times out of ten he takes Masuda's work and elevates it with new percussion, creative reharmonization, and rhythm/key changes that make older, more bare songs feel new.
Only on fricking /vp/ will you see 'people' putting Masuda's work over Ichinose's.
XY's OST feels like the audio form of turning down the contrast on a picture
Though music is the last thing on my mind when I think about mainline pokemon in general anyway, most of it is really forgettable.
too much trumpet and chanting. the problem seems to be that they keep trying to outdo and adding unique twists to the classic instead of simply remaking it with high fidelity in the better quality the hardware theoretically could allow
[...] >IS THAT... PERCUSSION AND INSTRUMENTS??? >NOOOOOOO!!!!! WHERE'S MY 3 CHANNEL 8 BIT TRACK WITH NO DISSONANCE!!!! >PREFERABLY UPLOADED WITH TONS OF REVERB TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE ITS COMING FROM A TIN ROOM
I bet you were frothing at the mouth typing this. cope
I don't think its about outdoing the original, but trying to make something that fits with the overall soundtrack of the game its in. But I can see why you like/dislike these.
>IS THAT... PERCUSSION AND INSTRUMENTS??? >NOOOOOOO!!!!! WHERE'S MY 3 CHANNEL 8 BIT TRACK WITH NO DISSONANCE!!!! >PREFERABLY UPLOADED WITH TONS OF REVERB TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE ITS COMING FROM A TIN ROOM
Yeah I wouldn't mistake this for pokemon music
because these actually make good use of the soundchip to create an interesting soundscape
gb pokemon music is bottom of the barrel garbo
It'd be a pretty unique sound if I pressed my hairy anus right to your ear and blew a wet shart into it but just because it's unique doesn't mean it's good
So much better it's not even funny,
the re-harmonization makes the composition sound way more intimidating while the frantic
percussion adds a depth to it the original can't
match
FRLG did some moronic shit but the music's
much better
The older I get the more I dislike Gen 3. The games are so fricking ugly and that's comparing them to Gen 1. FRLG suffered so hard from being empty and lmao you can't even get later Gen's evolutions like Crobat without the National Dex so hope you don't spend time using Golbat hoping it'll evolve before Elite Four. Not to mention the Sevii Islands suck shit and slow down the main story.
To answer your question: I agree with the Let's Go gay. Or play Yellow and pretend you're Ass Ketchup. I replayed the game last month for the first time since 1999 and it was fun (although filling the Pokedex took too frickin long).
People suck off HGSS as the best game in the series so there's your answer
It has the gen 4 slowness but at least it also gives you an autorun toggle so you're always moving at a more reasonable speed
I played FRLG, never touched the OGs and I'm already a quarter into HGSS. Directly comparing FRLG to Emerald, it feels like the former got hit harder with the ugly stick, but I did enjoy the game regardless. The flashback feature was cute but I could see why it eventually grated. I definitely appreciated some abilities pokemon had (fukkin love Clear Body) and despised a few others (Levitate), and the only bad moveset I had to deal with was Venusaur's. It's definitely something I'd play again in a different direction someday, but maybe in a revisit I'd play the originals just to see what theyre like.
They're fine remakes.
The story is just RBY with an added sidequest.
The older RBY might be harder to get into if you're used to the QOL of later games like running shoes and an easy to use pokemon storage system that doesn't make you save between box switches.
I personally prefer the aesthetic of the originals but the remakes are easier to get into.
They are good games to play if you've never played gen 1, but you should honestly play RED first (only homosexuals chose blue) and then after a while play YELLOW (especially if you like the first season of the anime) . Then you should play either fire red or leaf green. My honest opinion
Well, they're gen 3 games, so if you actually care about playing gen 1, then play gen 1. Whether you actually care about splitting hairs like that, I don't know, but that's what you asked. If you like Pokemon in general, I'd recommend you to play both originals and remakes anyway. There's a lot of fun observations to make about the differences in design along the way, and you get to play two fun video games instead of one.
you should unironically play Let's Go
definitely dont play lets go if its your first time playing a pokemon game. gba remakes are perfect
The original games are fine to play just to see them, but FRLG are also fine. They do their jobs as remakes to update and add things without being overbearing about it like ORAS or something, I prefer to replay them over the originals.
Not really good as your first gen 1 game since they change a lot
ORAS are vastly superior remakes compared to FRLG because they actually add things of value (post-game side quest which expands upon Rayquaza and Deoxys, expanded Pokedex, fixed the Rival character arc that just sort of vanishes in the originals, incorporates Megas into the main game).
Now, is ORAS worth playing over Emerald? It's debatable and depends on if you value presentation or content more, but ORAS still has something to offer. FRLG are worthless games.
FRLG updates the mechanics, adds extra content for post-game, and obviously makes it compatible for trading with the other games, removing almost every issue I have with RBY. It does exactly what a remake should and then it fricks off.
Can't say the same for ORAS. In the first place, it didn't even really need a remake, since the only meaningful mechanical change made between gen 3 and gen 6 was the physical/special split. It then discards Emerald, doesn't do anything to fix RSE's biggest issue in the dull water routes which is the biggest justification you could have had for a remake, and has questionable changes and additions like gen 6's unbalanced exp share and having mega evolving legendaries forced into your party or whatever the frick was going on with the story. I can still understand liking it, since it does add other positive things like the PSS and dexnav, it's just a mixed bag and no what I would consider an ideal remake.
>FRLG updates the mechanics
It changes them for better or worse
>adds extra content for post-game
All garbage filler designed to waste your time.
>makes it compatible for trading with the other games
Not relevant if you're only playing one Gen 3 game.
>removing almost every issue I have with RBY.
>Abloobloobloo I can't stand same type pokemon being a good answer to status inflicting attacking moves, hyper beam actually being useful, and ice being a genuinely strong type ;_;
>since the only meaningful mechanical change made between gen 3 and gen 6 was the physical/special split.
Megas, expanded ability pool, new evolutions.
>no what I would consider an ideal remake.
It's not, but unlike FRLG it justifies its own existence. Literally all FRLG offers is appeasing people that can't handle how soulful Gen 1 is.
Clearly an inflammatory bait post, but I am interested in seeing your explanations for how gen 1 is in any way better mechanically, and how mostly optional additional gameplay is a waste of time but the Delta episode is worthwhile content
>but I am interested in seeing your explanations for how gen 1 is in any way better mechanically,
Not strictly better, but different. It's a game with mechanics completely unique to it which makes it worth playing since you don't get that experience from other games. FRLG mechanically is just a Gen 3 game, but if you want Gen 3 then just play the vastly superior Hoenn games, which are actually built and balanced around the system changes.
>how mostly optional additional gameplay is a waste
It's not optional if you want the nat dex and final dungeon.
>but the Delta episode is worthwhile content
Expanded upon several story elements, integrated Rayquaza into RS in a way that was vastly superior to "uhhh he's up a tower I guess", gave the player access to Deoxys in a climatic as frick encounter (which, as a side note, god damn does ORAS have an amazing ost), and introduced a character who, love her or hate her, was an incredibly memorable addition to the game.
FRLG fails to recapture the simplistic yet unique charm of Gen 1, while failing to add anything compelling to it. It is a failure as both a remake and a remaster, and even as a Gen 3 game every other mainline game shits all over it. A completely worthless game. The only reason people defend it is because homosexuals have always placed all of Gen 3 on a pedestal.
>Expanded upon several story elements, integrated Rayquaza into RS in a way that was vastly superior to "uhhh he's up a tower I guess", gave the player access to Deoxys in a climatic as frick encounter (which, as a side note, god damn does ORAS have an amazing ost), and introduced a character who, love her or hate her, was an incredibly memorable addition to the game.
lmao
I accept your concession.
Epic
>It's not optional if you want to do optional content
Gee
I'll just give another simple disagree on everything else. Good to know the kinds of people that don't like FRLG are the kind of people that would say Zinnia is a memorable character
>Play FRLG it has cool optional content!
>But it's shit
>Uhhh just don't do the optional content if you don't like it chud!
You're ignoring your own arguments, and it still doesn't excuse content from the original game getting locked behind it.
>are the kind of people that would say Zinnia is a memorable character
She must be if she still manages to make you seethe.
>More ignorant inflammatory "arguments"
Very cool
I am simply treating you with the amount of respect you deserve.
>anyone who disagrees with me is seething
You're telling on yourself.
>badmouthing ORAS
Why tho. They are amazing.
what the frick are you a special kind of moron or something
nvm i am i read that as pokemon go instead
Frick no
>no wild battles
Only for legendaries bro :^)
>can only play it in waggle form
Lets go is honestly not a bad option if you dont like catching pokemon
Play FRLG, a QoL hack of FR, or Yellow if you want the 90's Gameboy aesthetiv
They're pretty much gen 1 with extra post game content, so I'd say play these over gen 1
No, they're dog shit. They add nothing to Kanto of value while scrubbing away anything that makes Red/Blue worth revisiting. It is the definition of a soulless remake. Also the way it handles post-Gen 1 evolutions is fricking ass.
The post game content is shit, if you want post-game Gen 3 gameplay Emerald is right fricking there.
Sevii Islands are boring filler that are the complete antithesis of Gen 1 map design. Linear and slow as shit.
>HURR BUT IT'S OPTIONAL
Not if you want to catch Mewtwo lmao
>Not if you want to catch Mewtwo lmao
Just use surf and walk into the cave.
It's locked off until you complete all of the Shitvi Island quests
>FRLG apologists haven't even played the game
lmao
BW has the best town themes in the series though.
might be my favorite town theme in the series, along with Azalea Town.
>Not if you want to catch Mewtwo lmao
Oh boo hoo. You aren't leveled enough to catch him right after the League anyway. You aren't a Masterballgay, are you?
>He can't catch level 70 legendaries with a team of 50-60 mons
Not going to make it.
>He IS a Masterballgay
FRLG Mewtwo has pressure and recovers while also using safeguard and spamming Swift and Psychic.
He will toast your team while you are catching it.
Real gods catch their legends with premier/pokeballs.
ok non-player.
I 100% FRLG and caught Mewtwo more times when i was 8 than you probably did your whole life.
The only good thing about them are the Sevii islands.
I prefer to play the originals in their original aesthetic, but the remakes are fine if you don't care about the aesthetic, and as a bonus there's more content.
the remakes are more insanely gay than a troony in a straight jacket locked up in a white room in a mental asylum.
But what if the tyranny likes the opposite sex. Wouldn't that mean they aren't gay at all?
I think the original does it better
Abilities and newer mechanics, status spam of gen 3, these all change the game a lot.
There's some magic with the original. Did I enjoy fire red? Frick yeah. But I think you should play the original either way.
Let's go is actually really cool because it looks great and you see pokemon in the overworld, you can avoid them or encounter them, up to you. But don't play it first imo.
I somehow managed to reproduce, and I'm legit locked on which one I should make him play first when he will be old enough for vidya.
FRLG, Emerald, or S/M.
Emerald
>pokemon?
>yeah my autistic dad made me play a bunch of it
Make your children do useful things and let them find their own hobbies.
>not making him play OG Red first
You're already gimping his imagination and problem solving skills
When my son is 5 I'm handing him my GB color and my copy of Red
>S/M
This should seriously be considered child abuse. If only parenting required an IQ test.
I have nostalgia for Emerald, but it was the worst out of the Battle Frontiers because you couldn't reduce in level. If I were you, I'd play along with him and help him catch 'em all with trades, and then after he does so, reveal that there are more pokemon in gen 2. Play up through all of the gens carrying your pokemon to the next games. Gotta catch 'em all.
Make sure to show him box art to have him pick a version. Also remember that he will outgrow Pokemon by middle school and it might become cool again in high school. I remember Pokemon had died out for me and then Go game out and it was okay to like Pokemon again.
Red or Blue
HGSS
Platinum
BW
B2W2
ORAS
In that order.
Yeah they are. They are pretty much straight upgrades to the original.
>Are these remakes a good way to play through gen 1
No because they're gen 3, not gen 1. Gen 1 and gen 3 mechanically couldn't be more different. If you want to play gen 1, play the gen 1 games. If you prefer gen 3 mechanics, stick to the remakes.
Why reply if you have no idea what OP is saying?
Why reply when you're fricking moronic and should have a nice day by drowning in your bathtub
>no u
Didn't mean to upset you, esl homie. Just trying to get you to consider being less autistic.
This.
They barely updated the movepools over gen 1 and no breeding so you can't even put on egg moves if your autistic enough to do that.
Abilites are 100% fricking godawful for Kanto mons, they straight do nothing.
The special atk/def spilt fricks over a lot of pokemon. Gyarados for example gets cucked hard.
Frick the nature's too. Nothing I hate worse than spending an hour catching a shitmon only to get fricked over on a low iv roll and a shit nature on top of it.
Kanto mons were designed around gen 1 "mechanics" and the old dv system.
>Verification not required.
>Gen 1 and gen 3 mechanically couldn't be more different.
Not really, 1 and 3 are closer than 3 and like 4 or 5
Holy fricking moron. 3 and 4 are incredibly similar, 4 just has power creep thanks to the physical special split fricking things up. The jump between 2 and 3 is by far the largest divergence in core gameplay in the series to date. Nothing comes close.
yes
>empty ass plains and trainers with three identical glooms
gen 3 learnsets
if you're desperate to experience kanto, the best way to do so would be
HGSS and... Pokemon Snap!
Play it if you want ruined aesthetics, ruined music and ruined gameplay
There is not a single videogame remake that doesn't frick up something one way or another. Have some fricking respect for the original craft
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if anything you should play red and blue with an hack that restores the graphics of the japanese red and green
>ruined gameplay
In what way? RBGY were buggy and glitchy
Too many new additions from Ruby and Sapphire. It should've just stayed purely at Genwun.
You mean gen 2. Special stat was always dumb
Always play Gen 1 first so you don't end up a moron like who parrots bullshit about the game without ever having actually played it.
Nosalgia truly is one hell of a drug
Go back.
>if I close my eyes the issues don't exist
if i play the games the issues are irrelevant
Not actually playing games you're crying about is truly is one hell of a drug
This is still moronic for two reasons, for one, the ones labelled "not a bug" were clearly programmed to be the way they are, but are still moronic mechanics. I'll take my new-found knowledge of the R/G/B safari zone, for example; the safari ball is supposed to be on-par with the ultra ball, but it's not actually, it doesn't work the way it's intended to at all. You're also supposed to use the rock or bait in order to increase your catch chance, too. The problem, due to a massively moronic over-sight, the box that pops up "the pokemon is eating" or "the pokemon is angry" resets the counter that is supposed to increase catch chance because that counts as a turn making it near-impossible to increase catch chance above a certain number. This was fixed in Yellow and future games, obviously. Two, these mechanics are just out-right moronic anyway and defending such mechanics makes you moronic. Why is it okay for a pokemon to never recover from being frozen, unless hit by a fire move? Most of these mechanics they realized how dumb they were and fixed them in future games. Or breeding in Gen 2, they realized how bad it was and fixed it in future games, because it's a very slim chance to get an egg from two breeding pokemon in G/S/C (between 3-30%, depending on species and trainer, increased to 20-70% every 256 steps in gen 3).
>the safari ball is supposed to be on-par with the ultra ball
source?
>Why is it okay for a pokemon to never recover from being frozen, unless hit by a fire move
Why is it not okay?
- disgusting gender and breeding mechanics that turn the game into a eugenics simulator and break all suspension of disbelief with things like rocks and plants and sludge reproducing like that, cubone born with dead mother skull when the mom is at the daycare, kangaskhan with baby, completely different species mating, etc...
- fossils at level 5 instead of 25, good look using leveling up those pokemon when you're already at the 7th gym
- ridiculous handholding in the thirsty guard quest
- speaking of handholding, teachy tv lmao
- terrible new types, as if ground and rock aren't already overlapping enough let's add another mineral based type, dark is as ambiguous and ridiculous as fairy, as if gengar ,hypno, etc aren't more evil tricksters than umbreon
- speaking of umbreon way to ruin the eeveelution concept, they were ambiguous beasts with a straight up classical elemental rpg affinity - fire, electric, water... psychic!? and evil!? and they don't even evolve via stone lmao. and espeon is a straight up yokai cat ruining the beastly ambiguity of the line
- but those are hardly the worst crossgen gen 2 evolutions that are now part of the game's universe in the remake
- and so are all the new pokemon with pig disgusting designs
- romhack tier islands completely break the pace of your quest ("b-b-but you can say no!" if the game prompts you to something you're natural reaction is to say yes, it's not the player's job to know that if you do what the game prompts you to do it's gonna frick shit up, it shouldn't be there period. And regardless of when you chose to visits the fanfiction island, they are still terrible and gathering magic crystals goes against the high tech scifi feel of gen 1
- I wanted to go on but I'm tired of typing and all this will go over your head anyway
>b-b-b-but muh glitches!
fixing those does not make up for everything else they eviscerated
You were so close. You had a few legit criticisms for FRLG but went full genwunner moronation
>- disgusting gender and breeding mechanics that turn the game into a eugenics simulator and break all suspension of disbelief
You come out with this as your opener and you expect me to read the rest?
>Game about bonding with your pet-like monsters
>Keep forcing them to shit out eggs ad nauseum until you get what you want and discard the rest
If that bothers you then you should be blaming the actual problem, which is IVs, that have always existed in the series purely to make your pet-like monsters objectively, numerically worse than others in a game that offers PVP.
For a game about raising monsters, breeding is a very natural conclusion and not at all immersion breaking considering such people exist IRL.
>speaking of umbreon way to ruin the eeveelution concept, they were ambiguous beasts with a straight up classical elemental rpg affinity - fire, electric, water... psychic!? and evil!? and they don't even evolve via stone lmao. and espeon is a straight up yokai cat ruining the beastly ambiguity of the line
Patterngays lmao
Gen 1 or FRLG are both fine
lol
big lol
Red looks awful in FRLG, the sprite's head looks very strange.
Gen 1 is a good way to play through Gen 1. The Gen 3 remakes are a good way to play through Gen 3. As remakes, they're fine, I just wish they reinterpreted Kanto's environments to be more varied.
If.you never played gen 1 then no, absolutely not..they are first and foremost gen 3 games and far from an accurate representation of the classic experience
The music takes a massive dip in quality. It's depressing really
>depressing
More like tragic
This is what I was going to say. The music in FR/LG is not good. If you could do GB Player in FR/LG. I'd be quick to recommend it.
The feel of the whole thing is different, Gen 1 has a grittier feel. But you still wouldn't need to play them both. I'd rec Gen 1, but Gen 3 is "better."
i'm nostalgic for it despite acknowledging it's bad
It's alright, it has the special physical split so it'll be easier to get into modern pokemon through them. I played red and Blue first when I was a little kid so that one shouldn't be much amof a challenge for you if you just want to go old school. It's definitely way easier than the remakes. It's probably because the game is so easy to cheese.
No, goddamn, gen 3 didn't have the physical special split yet
Anyone actually have any luck finding the gba games out in the wild? The local games store swear they get them but that they usually sell by the next day. Ebay prices are a joke and emulators don't do it for me.
Garage sales and boomers
Perfect combo
Stop hogging them!
The originals were already fun as frick that's why they blew up and sold so well. I think it's worth playing those first and then coming back way later for the remake
Play them and make your own opinion
FRLG or LGPE are better than RBY in every single way. Both fix all the shitty bugs and dogshit movepools of gen 1.
Bait post
>Posting the truth is bait
Gens 1 and 2 have plenty of core issues outside of the fact gen 1 is a bug-ridden mess that looks like dogshit, the biggest one is movepools.
Heracross in gen 2, for example, has a dogshit movepool in Gen 2 and even 3, but gen 4 gave it tons of great moves.
Nidoking's movepool sucks shit in Gen 1, as does nidoqueen's, but by gen 4 they've fixed the problems - though it wasn't until fairy type when they came into their own.
>gen 1 looks like shit
stopped reading there
> Heracross in gen 2, for example, has a dogshit movepool
Relative to what?
>Nidoking's movepool sucks shit in Gen 1
homie Nidoking/queen have always had amazing movepools. The only major issue they have in Gen 1 is no Poison STAB but there also was no good Poison STAB moves in the game period and even if there was they wouldn't bother with a shit attacking type like Poison. Like yeah let's run Poison to hit, uh, Pinsir I guess? Tangela?
>though it wasn't until fairy type when they came into their own.
Absolutely moronic take from an underage gay that gets all his info from glancing at modern Smogon articles.
The gen 3 remakes are the best way to play the first games
The gen 3 remakes are not the first games
You know what I mean. The first 2 gens don't even have the ability to run in the games
>remakes good
literally only /vp/ believes this, because this series conditioned them to be consoomers
I seriously doubt that. The remakes are just better games and I say that as someone that started with Blue version in 1998. Better graphics, mechanics, movesets, actual post game, etc ...p
>Better graphics
Lol they butchered the art direction. It's kind of sad just how clueless you people are
>Hurr more color and more assets = looks better
Are you really trying to argue that a Gameboy game looks better than a GBA game?
Are you really trying to argue Avengers is more aesthetic than Ctizen Kane because it uses higher quality cameras and it's in color?
Please do explain some of these astounding, artistique decisions in Gen 1 that Gen 3 did away with
Refer to
. I won't spoonfeed you any further
so this.... is the power..... of gen one....... woaaahh...
zoomer so stupid he can't even interpret a sprite correctly
don't argue with morons
Gen 1 is currently unplayable I'm afraid.
The original games are glitchy messes lacking refinement.
The Gen 3 remakes don't have the physical/special split which makes them worthless.
Let's Go is for actual toddlers and aren't actually remakes, they're alt-timeline sequels.
We'll have to wait until they remaster KANTOOOO again before you can play the og adventure.
Don't even bother, just play Emerald, Platinum and BW2 and then drop the series
>just play [good game], [bad game], and [bad game] and then drop the series
why tho?
A lot of the game design changes because of it being effectively an RS ROMhack gameplay-wise. A big one is how a good portion of enemies now have contact-based Status that were made with PvP in mind for RS, but for an ingame run of FRLG this means you'll be going back and forth to heal because of constant status procs.
By Gen 4 they learned from this mistake and added secondary abilities to most of these mons, with HGSS using those for enemy trainers to avoid the tedium.
>a good portion of enemies now have contact-based Status that were made with PvP in mind for RS, but for an ingame run of FRLG this means you'll be going back and forth to heal because of constant status procs
What's wrong with that though? It's an added layer of difficulty, and gives you a reason to use the thousands of antidotes, parlyz heals, etc you find throughout the game
Nothing wrong with that. Another point that anon could have brought up is that the TMs are the same as in RS, which for the most part means you get far weaker moves from them throughout the game (or there's a move tutor NPC added to the appropriate area that teaches you a gen 1 TM move). This combined with Pokemon levelup move learnsets being much improved over the gen 1 days means there's less of a gap between what the player's Pokemon can know versus the average NPC trainer's/wild Pokemon can, but I wouldn't say that's "wrong" either, it's just "different".
originals have SOUL and ARE Pokémon
remakegays cope harder
As someone who started with gen 1 and is obsessed with it to the point where I hardly ever play other gens: If you have never played a Pokemon game. Play FRLG first. RSE is better as it got rid of a lot of slow animations that weren't needed. (Like when you give a TM or item to your Pokemon) RBY is very fun to abuse when you know how to glitch it, but as a stand alone there are things that FRLG does much better.
>Suggesting FRLG for being faster
Sure, if you ignore abilities going off, the forced tutorial shit, the slower walk speed, the god awful multi-hour sevii island side quests, and the game stopping and telling you that your Golbat is trying to evolve only to stop at the very last moment EVERY FRICKING TIME IT LEVELS UP JUST LET ME HAVE A CROBAT YOU SHITTY FRICKING KUSOGE
>slower walk speed
>when there's running
Why is this thread in particular so full of disinformation?
Don't forget the "previously on" shit when you resume a save
Literally soulless
The cringiest part is the rpgmaker tier fog effect that magically goes over the confines of the room but doesn't cover characters
Lavender Town creeped me out as a kid. I knew nothing about the creepypastas or Lavender Town syndrome but I would mute the game when playing through there.
HELL NO!
>RBY has an all time great soundtrack, FRLG has GBA ear cancer.
>RBY while primitive has graphics that are pleasing to look at and charming in design. FRLG graphics have a very harsh and ugly color palette, and uses the extremely watered down and commercialized aesthetics of the then contemporary anime season.
>RBY is designed around its simplicity. Everything in both the UI and game design is quick and snappy, and the entire game is designed holistically so every moving piece works together seamlessly. FRLG on the other hand exists in an uncomfortable middle stage where it has a bunch of back ported features from later games that don't mesh with the original, while not being polished and fixed like Gen4 would be. everything is slow and clunky and inconvenient to access.
>Relating to the above RBY has the uniqueness of being designed as a stand alone single player JRPG instead of a "Pokemon Game" like FRLG was. It offers a different focus from the rest of the series.
What's the best romhack of Red and Blue that keeps to the originals closely while giving QoL features?
Shin Pokemon Red
I played FRLG, were pretty good games. I haven't touched the OG games though only because I'm superficial and they have no color
originals are peak soul and charm but there's literally no reason to outright hate the remakes if you loved the originals.
Jesus Christ this is legitimately embarrassing
Sailor got JUSTed so damn hard
and people still try to arguie soul/soulless is just a meme
Kanto vs Kantroon
>
Yea, the FRLG versions look respectable while the RB ones look like a meme romhack game. Actually romhacks look better.
I've always wondered about Blue's hairdo in Red/Green/Blue versions. It looks completely different in his first two battle sprites, and then it looks like he gets a new hairdo (the iconic spiky one) for the champion match to match his new clothes complete with sick jacket. But then the official illustrations of him adopted the 'champion hair' for all depictions, and anime Gary, Yellow Blue and all future Blue designs were based on that as well.
Red and the Rival had Capumon remains in their designs, that Champion sprite was also a basis of his new OW sprites in Gen 2 games.
This is also true for gymleaders (only Brock, Misty and Erika got updated in Yellow) in that none matches the official artwork of R/G.
You can also notice some inconsistency in trainers’ OW sprites, notably Chaneller lacking her headwear, and other trainers being without their hats. TCRF described much of that well, sadly not all of it.
homosexuals ITT shitting on the OST are truly on another level of stupid. Tell me you don't know anything about music without outright saying it. Go Ichinose is a MUCH better musician than Junichi Masuda, and nine times out of ten he takes Masuda's work and elevates it with new percussion, creative reharmonization, and rhythm/key changes that make older, more bare songs feel new.
Only on fricking /vp/ will you see 'people' putting Masuda's work over Ichinose's.
Honestly Masuda and Ichinose together work wonders. BW soundtrack was great for a reason
meant for
BWs OSTis overrated. The only really memorable and great song is the Plasma Battle theme.
Gen 6s OST curbstomps it.
XY's OST feels like the audio form of turning down the contrast on a picture
Though music is the last thing on my mind when I think about mainline pokemon in general anyway, most of it is really forgettable.
>42 year olds ITT will actually tell you the RBY version is better
in a fricking heartbeat lmao
I for one prefer this version
ruby/sapphire-tier trumpet mess. trying way too hard to sound epic
this sounds like slop I could hear on a boss battle of a generic wacky sword and sorcery anime jrpg
this sound is unique to pokémon and hones in on the grounded contemporary scifi feel of the universe
I think BW2 version of world champion music is more like the classic version, you might like that one
too much trumpet and chanting. the problem seems to be that they keep trying to outdo and adding unique twists to the classic instead of simply remaking it with high fidelity in the better quality the hardware theoretically could allow
I bet you were frothing at the mouth typing this. cope
I don't think its about outdoing the original, but trying to make something that fits with the overall soundtrack of the game its in. But I can see why you like/dislike these.
I like that, but this is my favorite
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>IS THAT... PERCUSSION AND INSTRUMENTS???
>NOOOOOOO!!!!! WHERE'S MY 3 CHANNEL 8 BIT TRACK WITH NO DISSONANCE!!!!
>PREFERABLY UPLOADED WITH TONS OF REVERB TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE ITS COMING FROM A TIN ROOM
>Unique to pokemon
>3 channel gb music
Either a zoomer or an autist who doesn't
play other gamss
moron are you sure it's not you who doesn't play other games? you underestimate how much diversity you can achieve on GB
you're not gonna mistake this for pokémon music
Yeah I wouldn't mistake this for pokemon music
because these actually make good use of the soundchip to create an interesting soundscape
gb pokemon music is bottom of the barrel garbo
It'd be a pretty unique sound if I pressed my hairy anus right to your ear and blew a wet shart into it but just because it's unique doesn't mean it's good
I'm 35 and yeah they are, Zoomer.
So much better it's not even funny,
the re-harmonization makes the composition sound way more intimidating while the frantic
percussion adds a depth to it the original can't
match
FRLG did some moronic shit but the music's
much better
It was only good back in 2004 - 2006
It was a nice fair well to the series if you started with red / blue in 1999
It was the last thing I played
And the wireless trading was pretty cool with the extra GBA plugin tool
Now I’d rather just play Red / Blue if I’m going to replay through gen 1
big yikes
I never got that random-ass maze in either game. It's not a challenge at all if you happen to pick the right side, and annoying if you don't.
They really were hellbent on sucking every ounce of soul from the game
Play Gen 1, FRLG is the same shit with worse mechanics and the soul removed
The older I get the more I dislike Gen 3. The games are so fricking ugly and that's comparing them to Gen 1. FRLG suffered so hard from being empty and lmao you can't even get later Gen's evolutions like Crobat without the National Dex so hope you don't spend time using Golbat hoping it'll evolve before Elite Four. Not to mention the Sevii Islands suck shit and slow down the main story.
To answer your question: I agree with the Let's Go gay. Or play Yellow and pretend you're Ass Ketchup. I replayed the game last month for the first time since 1999 and it was fun (although filling the Pokedex took too frickin long).
>slow the main quest
>10 minute back and forth
lol parroted complaints by non-players, probably discord troons
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/2478/
As someone that loved gen 1 and FR/LG, how are HG/SS?
Filled with content but SLOW as frick. Wouldn't recommend without an emulator.
People suck off HGSS as the best game in the series so there's your answer
It has the gen 4 slowness but at least it also gives you an autorun toggle so you're always moving at a more reasonable speed
just speed it up with hacks
>mfw listening to these clearly inferior remakes
>especially SS Anne, which was so much better on GB, an obvious fact to everyone
FRLG OST is better in almost every way.
Damn right, I especially love the Sevii Islands music
TALK to em!
Sevii islands is S O V L
I can't remember a single town theme in BW despite the fact I know I liked Castelia's theme. Yet I can't remember it off the cuff.
I played FRLG, never touched the OGs and I'm already a quarter into HGSS. Directly comparing FRLG to Emerald, it feels like the former got hit harder with the ugly stick, but I did enjoy the game regardless. The flashback feature was cute but I could see why it eventually grated. I definitely appreciated some abilities pokemon had (fukkin love Clear Body) and despised a few others (Levitate), and the only bad moveset I had to deal with was Venusaur's. It's definitely something I'd play again in a different direction someday, but maybe in a revisit I'd play the originals just to see what theyre like.
>never touched the OGs
So this is why the board is in the state that it is
Dont give me so much credit. I think it was like this WAYYY before I showed up.
They're fine remakes.
The story is just RBY with an added sidequest.
The older RBY might be harder to get into if you're used to the QOL of later games like running shoes and an easy to use pokemon storage system that doesn't make you save between box switches.
I personally prefer the aesthetic of the originals but the remakes are easier to get into.
They are good games to play if you've never played gen 1, but you should honestly play RED first (only homosexuals chose blue) and then after a while play YELLOW (especially if you like the first season of the anime) . Then you should play either fire red or leaf green. My honest opinion
>but you should honestly play RED first
based
>and then after a while play YELLOW
cringe
Well, they're gen 3 games, so if you actually care about playing gen 1, then play gen 1. Whether you actually care about splitting hairs like that, I don't know, but that's what you asked. If you like Pokemon in general, I'd recommend you to play both originals and remakes anyway. There's a lot of fun observations to make about the differences in design along the way, and you get to play two fun video games instead of one.
which one, /vp/?
https://strawpoll.com/NPgxELW8AZ2