Are these the most forgettable games in the franchise? I never see anyone discuss them.
>Just KANTOOOO again
>In the day just read as an apology to people who couldn't transfer their mons to Hoenn
>Kanto with the gen 3 tileset/soundfont looks and sounds like shit
>The Sevii islands are cool but not nearly enough to justify a full remake
These aren't really bad by any means but I probably see these games talked about the least of any set of games in the franchise, despite being Kanto AND the first remake ever done.
people don't want to admit it but the remakes these games have the most in common with is BDSP. A couple new bells & whistles here and there, but largely the same shit. But at least FRLG don't look like they were made in a Roblox engine.
Something about them always felt kind of empty to me, or off, they aren't bad but sitting on the same system as RSE doesn't make them look good either.
Kanto just isn't that interesting anymore, LGPE are the most fun way to play through it because it looks nice and you can just have a fun breeze through it, but FRLG as mentioned feel painfully bland sitting next to the Hoenn games.
>always felt kind of empty to me
Agreed. It's the GBA widescreen. You see more in the screen but there isn't much to see in the first place (OG thing).
they’re better than the hoenn games easily. better deoxys forms, actual post game that’s not tower clone slop, no johto numon cancer like marill infesting the regions grass, better safari zone, better sprites, better designed region (7HMs vs 8), vs seeker instead of shitty phone call rematches, elite 4 rematches
peak of the series
homie, Marill is obtainable in LeafGreen
its extinct in kanto and only exist in some shitty islands to not taint the original experience
> MMMUUUHHHHHHH KAAAANNNNTTTTTTOOOOO
>no johto numon cancer like (one that people who were actually around for the KANTOOOOOO days thought was the super rare Pikablu and wanted to catch it)
Wasn't there code discovered in the games which suggests that the Sevii Islands were cut from ~30 different areas to 7? The theory that GameFreak scaled down plans in order to synchronize everything up holds weight even in regard to the Gen 3 era. If FRLG had an actual postgame with facilities and more encounters it'd definitely be up there with Emerald, Platinum, HGSS, and B2W2 due to that alone. But with the way they released, they certainly don't feel like fully fleshed out entries with which to build/maintain a collection, but rather like a side campaign you can do for specific encounters to transfer to other Gen 3 games/Gen 4. Admittedly, though, Kanto with the sleek Gen 3 movement and running shoes feels snappy and nice.
Are there any firered romhacks that actually adds 30 islands instead of seven?
No; I think the discovered areas in the code were just unfinished empty pure water-tile canvasses. But they were labeled into the ~20s.
Its my first pokemon game, but it does feel a bit bland at certain replays.
it's okay for what it is, probably the most pokemon pokemon game out there
>no johto numon cancer
lol xd
I only recently learned that you could get Larvitar in FRLG's postgame. Unfortunately it's one of the very, very few cool non-Kanto Pokemon you could actually get. Diamond and Pearl vastly improved upon Gen 3, it having better postgame national dex encounters with the PokeRadar, postgame areas, and mass outbreaks.
Restraining things to the Kanto dex was "faithful", but it left some shortcomings in game design.
>Only 1 ghost-type line
>Only 1 steel-type line
>Only 1 dragon-type line
>No dark-type lines
How can Sinnoh be shunned for its fire type shortage with this kind of precedent?
Also, why are the Psyduck, Shellder, Staryu, and Slopoke lines version exclusives?
Being cucked out of Slowpoke was the first because it was the one line needed for dex completion missing for someone who ones one Kanto game and Emerald they forgot to put in GoD.
*was the worst
Damn
They are the most important in the world of hacks.
We wouldn't have Unbound and Radical Reddit without FRLG, they get points for that at least.
LG was my first pokemon game, so I can't really say anything bad about it. those glasses are colored way too rosy.
They're the closest I ever got to playing anything after gen 2, since it's all been trash since then.
Here's all of the catchable Pokemon in a single copy of LeafGreen. Without trade evos especially, one really does have barebones options in an in-game playthrough.
>Charizard
>Starmie
>Tyranitar
>Kadabra
>Hitmontop
Yep, it's gaming time.
>Starter
>Version exclusive
>Postgame
>Unevolved trade evo
>Postgame
cope
Cope? You're a dope. Go find a rope.
No hope. I say "nope" to the brainless baiters repeatin' tropes.
Ain't got no scope for reality, a tragedy, baiters only whine and mope.
Can't see they penises even under a microscope.
Read this to the tune of that british rap album that was popular in 2002. For the streets, or something.
They are bland but in a good way, it is a pure Pokemon experience without cutscenes and useless scripts. I find FR/LG really easy to pick up and play, unlike a lot of the others games.
The new sprites for the Kantomon looks clean as frick and the soundtrack has way more instruments than in R/S, better drums and electric guitar.
There's still recency bias for LGPE, but that will definitely become the most forgettable games in the series, even with how unique it is
FRLG are the most replayed games in the series and have by far the largest ROMhack scene. They're the second least forgettable games after the original games they were based on.
I mean at worst, any discussion of them gets rolled into Kanto discussion since Gamefreak were more autistic about "faithfulness" then for Johto and Hoenn.
the problem with gen 3 in general is that its mechanics and graphics are extremely outdated but it doesn't have the retro charm of the gameboy titles.
the only thing gen 3 has going for it at this point is romhacks.
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It can be comfy to accrue a collection and do the battle frontier/gamecube game challenges. Finding a shiny in gen 3 actually means something too.
The problem with gen 2 in general is that its mechanics and graphics are extremely ugly and it doens't have the polish or charm of gen 3 and 5.
the only thing gen 2 has going for it is Kingdra. Scizor, Tyranitar, Politoed and Steelix.
>In the day just read as an apology to people who couldn't transfer their mons to Hoenn
Gen 3, including FRLG, were not made for old fans, they were made for a new fans after Pokemania died. It was all a big "frick you" to everyone who abandoned the franchise and it succeeded in turning a dead trend into a franchise.
>KANTOOOOOO wasn't as annoying back then
>used as the base for many romhacks
>literal blank battle backgrounds
>still no running shoes
>can't even get all the cool new gen 2 pokemon without trading, and who would voluntarily give you something cool like scizor?
>TMs are mostly dogshit
>Gym leaders use unevolved pokemon even in kanto
>Kanto is a barren wasteland with no safari zone, cerulean cave, and shortened/dead tunnels
>no good in-game trades
>terrible johto pokemon distribution in the first half of the game, not much better in second half
>derpy looking smiley face pokemon across almost all of gen 2
face it, johtoddler your game sucks
No. They are amazing games. The sevii islands are awesome and mysterious and should have been in HGSS. Tell me with a straight face that Six Island is not pure cinema.
*kino, anon. You're supposed to call it kino when it's really good. Also consider your dubs checked.
Found the gay guy
Not everything needs to be discussed.
The trade locks are memorable and the fact that LEt's Go didn't fill the empty sevii islands is frustrating.