Anything that takes up your time that isn't mandatory can be a hobby, so yes. People can cope but at the end of the day, if it isn't making you money it is a waste of time and thus a hobby.
Inherently being an activity doesn't make it a hobby. Sure i wipe my ass every day and it doesnt make me money but i would be insane to say ass wiping is my hobby.
Real hobbys revolve around maintaining, creating or collecting.
I mean people in the hobby complain about being alone or being disastisfied with life and if you only activitiy that you do all day is "consume video games" you can see why they might feel this way.
I love video games. I also enjoy other things that people can actually relate too or ask questions about or give me more insight on.
Anything can be a hobby, just playing games to be entertained in your spare time and keeping up with trends in the industry is a hobby of sorts, but it's kind of a shitty one because it doesn't really enrich your life in any way so I hope you have some other hobby in your life or have some way to make gaming more fulfilling
Not all entertainment is art, especially if it puts monetary gain first.
A few games might be art, but definitely not 98% of them, so most of the time you are not "engaging with art", you are "consuming a product". Which isn't inherently bad (sometimes), but also is hardly elevated above just watching Brazillian soap operas all day after work.
>the ghost level >the fucking mummy hidden in the golf game >the upside down world music
why was the rugrats series always so fuckign creepy? it wasnt horror but just unnerving to the point i didnt want to play it much as a kid and wasnt sure why.
I remember I found that for the first time when I was like 14 and replaying the game for a nostalgia trip, and it scared me so bad I had to turn the game off. It's such a mild "scary" easter egg in a game but I was caught so off guard that I couldn't handle it, I felt like I was having a panic attack.
the fact that it follows you and its 3 times louder than everything else on the level is pretty alarming when you first find it. i dont remember my reaction to it at first when i was 8 or 9 but i wasnt happy and didnt play it much after.
I've always struggle over the final goal and meaning of art.
Many people would say that playing games isn't a hobby or really a form of self-expression most of the time.
However, many people would probably agree that creating a game on your own is a form of art, or at least a powerful form of self-expression, especially if you aren't making some lootbox-infested infinite skinner box, but an actual definite experience with a singular vision, same as writing music or doing other forms of self-expression.
But I ask: for what end? Sure, this might be a "higher" activity for you, the developer, it might improve you in some ways as a person or teach you useful skills, at least. But what about the player on the other end? For them, this is still mostly mindless consumption.
But if the fruits of most kinds of art (music, cinema, literature, and others) immediately break down into a sort of a packed meal (even if it's not a product sold for a price) on the end, the end of the player or watcher or listener... what is really the point, then?
It might seem that art is only ever an enriching activity for the artist himself, but this feels like it's missing half of the story. After all, usually we don't create things just to stick them in a drawer and go away content, and if we do, it's usually so we could try again next time with a proper audience.
I don't know how to put it into words, but it all feels sort of recursive in the end. Many artists leave a message of hope, a message of striving for the artful and beautiful, but at most this would inspire others to do the same, whose only goal would be to inspire others to create more art. Doesn't really seem transforming.
I've long been coping, seeing art as a sort of stand-in for religion where there's none left, the only thing that's actually important in the end other than not starving or being lonely. But without the endless goalpost-moving of a religion ("you'll understand when you die"), it's all hitting a block for me.
>For them, this is still mostly mindless consumption.
What's mindless about the kinesthetic process of playing a game? In reference to normals yeah, but not in this board.
It really does feel like values of beauty get put on a pedestal and video games simply won't fit in as "art" because everything that goes into making a game is subservient to kinesthetics, but that value does genuinely feel more honest. Side note: games are an antisocial hobby on average which is what makes it more attractive on the consumer end as oppose to other expressions of kinesthetics like dance or sports. This may also be a factor as to why beauty is preferred in arts.
>creating dance and sport = hobby >watching dance and sport = not hobby
Youre welcome to list "The appreciation of kinesthetics" but please do not make any more posts about >why am i lonely >why is it so hard to meet people >why am i so depressed >boo hoo
I think you can intertwine beauty and kinesthetics in such a way that they feel like one indivisible monolithic whole. But it probably takes great skill and artistry, and the industry isn't really about that, especially at the moment.
What do you make of story-based games, then? I don't necessarily mean "movie-like" games or whatever people use to describe AAA or Sony games, but things like text-heavy games, such as RPGMaker works, and similar projects where gameplay is subservient to a text-heavy and involved story?
>What do you make of story-based games
I don't think the average person who's hobby it is to appreciate games as a whole would prioritize those games.
People into shows, books, movies that's who I believe those games are for.
RPGs in general are text and menu heavy but the kinesthetic process serves in immersing yourself within those worlds.
In short, playing zelda, God of War, or cod isn't a hobby. You're consuming mass-market entertainment. Watching Iron man and NCIS isn't a hobby either.
A hobby is something you devote time to that someone outside of that interest cant relate to the time you sank into it. Shit like high score chasing, 1cc playthroughs, retro collecting, translating, modding, autistic speedrunning, that can count.
Yes, but a shitty one. There are tiers of hobbies and video games belong int he lowest hobby which are hobbies that revolve soly around consuming products. If you ask someone what their hobby is and all they can say are >playing video games >watching television
or >trying out food
Then you're dealing with a really boring person who hasn't expanded beyond their teenage years.
thats the Hispanice. its people only use it as a hobby when they genuinely have nothing else. It literally just sounds better than "I do nothing but watch tv or play video games or eat"
>and whats the difference between Ganker and a video game?
Are you serious? >isnt this just second life without the avatars, names and a bunch of other stuff?
Oh, you're not. Shut the hell up, then.
Both don't hold any meaning outside of the fun you can have with them at the end of the day, so they're about equal.
Well, OR the money you make, but then it's not a hobby anymore.
yes, as long as youre not wasting away in your chair all day with no job and no ambitions its a hobby. if you are doing nothing with your life besides posting on Ganker then no its a distraction
Anything that takes up your time that isn't mandatory can be a hobby, so yes. People can cope but at the end of the day, if it isn't making you money it is a waste of time and thus a hobby.
Wrong.
Inherently being an activity doesn't make it a hobby. Sure i wipe my ass every day and it doesnt make me money but i would be insane to say ass wiping is my hobby.
Real hobbys revolve around maintaining, creating or collecting.
Ok.
We get it. You're a self hating gamer.
Why not have hobbys you can be proud of instead of consuming shitty games that no one can really relate too?
i dont list "video games" on any sites about me, do you?
Because I don't give a damn about what people think of my personal hobbies and pastimes.
You sound like the type that will fall over himself to be accepted by the group.
I mean people in the hobby complain about being alone or being disastisfied with life and if you only activitiy that you do all day is "consume video games" you can see why they might feel this way.
I love video games. I also enjoy other things that people can actually relate too or ask questions about or give me more insight on.
this is the dumbest comment i have seen on here in a while, congratulations
Consuming a product isnt a hobby.
Reviewing video games is, modding is but just... playing with toys isnt a hobby. Collecting them is but its a low tier one
You're posting on the video game section of an anime messageboard, get over yourself you pretentious gay.
>hentai has a section of an anime message board
>jerking off confirmed to be a Hobby
Hi yes my hobbys include gardening, masturbating to anime girls and ive been getting into bonsai.
Is OP a gay?
OH MY CUM GOSH ,YASSSSSSSSSSS
Anything can be a hobby, just playing games to be entertained in your spare time and keeping up with trends in the industry is a hobby of sorts, but it's kind of a shitty one because it doesn't really enrich your life in any way so I hope you have some other hobby in your life or have some way to make gaming more fulfilling
The consumption of art is enriching in and of itself.
Not all entertainment is art, especially if it puts monetary gain first.
A few games might be art, but definitely not 98% of them, so most of the time you are not "engaging with art", you are "consuming a product". Which isn't inherently bad (sometimes), but also is hardly elevated above just watching Brazillian soap operas all day after work.
Even da Vinci did his art on commission.
no, unless you make the video games
WHO MAKES THESE FUCKING THREADS MAN
Uneducated teens going through that phase where anything with actual wit is disgusting to them.
Someone post the sailor moon bot post webm so the uninitiated can get a first hand look at how fake this website actually is now.
seconding, am intrigued
No. A hobby is productive and video games are not productive (unless you're making them).
why is the bottle filled with piss
He's trapped in R. Kelly's basement.
honestly its juice and i have no idea why they picked that color. Milk would have made more sense.
I don't think any form of consumption is a hobby.
REPTAAAAAR
>the ghost level
>the fucking mummy hidden in the golf game
>the upside down world music
why was the rugrats series always so fuckign creepy? it wasnt horror but just unnerving to the point i didnt want to play it much as a kid and wasnt sure why.
>the fucking mummy hidden in the golf game
I remember I found that for the first time when I was like 14 and replaying the game for a nostalgia trip, and it scared me so bad I had to turn the game off. It's such a mild "scary" easter egg in a game but I was caught so off guard that I couldn't handle it, I felt like I was having a panic attack.
the fact that it follows you and its 3 times louder than everything else on the level is pretty alarming when you first find it. i dont remember my reaction to it at first when i was 8 or 9 but i wasnt happy and didnt play it much after.
Yes op, jesus
I've always struggle over the final goal and meaning of art.
Many people would say that playing games isn't a hobby or really a form of self-expression most of the time.
However, many people would probably agree that creating a game on your own is a form of art, or at least a powerful form of self-expression, especially if you aren't making some lootbox-infested infinite skinner box, but an actual definite experience with a singular vision, same as writing music or doing other forms of self-expression.
But I ask: for what end? Sure, this might be a "higher" activity for you, the developer, it might improve you in some ways as a person or teach you useful skills, at least. But what about the player on the other end? For them, this is still mostly mindless consumption.
But if the fruits of most kinds of art (music, cinema, literature, and others) immediately break down into a sort of a packed meal (even if it's not a product sold for a price) on the end, the end of the player or watcher or listener... what is really the point, then?
It might seem that art is only ever an enriching activity for the artist himself, but this feels like it's missing half of the story. After all, usually we don't create things just to stick them in a drawer and go away content, and if we do, it's usually so we could try again next time with a proper audience.
I don't know how to put it into words, but it all feels sort of recursive in the end. Many artists leave a message of hope, a message of striving for the artful and beautiful, but at most this would inspire others to do the same, whose only goal would be to inspire others to create more art. Doesn't really seem transforming.
I've long been coping, seeing art as a sort of stand-in for religion where there's none left, the only thing that's actually important in the end other than not starving or being lonely. But without the endless goalpost-moving of a religion ("you'll understand when you die"), it's all hitting a block for me.
>For them, this is still mostly mindless consumption.
What's mindless about the kinesthetic process of playing a game? In reference to normals yeah, but not in this board.
It really does feel like values of beauty get put on a pedestal and video games simply won't fit in as "art" because everything that goes into making a game is subservient to kinesthetics, but that value does genuinely feel more honest.
Side note: games are an antisocial hobby on average which is what makes it more attractive on the consumer end as oppose to other expressions of kinesthetics like dance or sports. This may also be a factor as to why beauty is preferred in arts.
Being art and being a hobby are two different things. Creating art can be a hobby but consuming art isnt really. collecting it can be.
Dance isn't a hobby if not art?
Sports ball isn't a hobby?
The appreciation of kinesthetics is a hobby.
>creating dance and sport = hobby
>watching dance and sport = not hobby
Youre welcome to list "The appreciation of kinesthetics" but please do not make any more posts about
>why am i lonely
>why is it so hard to meet people
>why am i so depressed
>boo hoo
I think you can intertwine beauty and kinesthetics in such a way that they feel like one indivisible monolithic whole. But it probably takes great skill and artistry, and the industry isn't really about that, especially at the moment.
What do you make of story-based games, then? I don't necessarily mean "movie-like" games or whatever people use to describe AAA or Sony games, but things like text-heavy games, such as RPGMaker works, and similar projects where gameplay is subservient to a text-heavy and involved story?
>What do you make of story-based games
I don't think the average person who's hobby it is to appreciate games as a whole would prioritize those games.
People into shows, books, movies that's who I believe those games are for.
RPGs in general are text and menu heavy but the kinesthetic process serves in immersing yourself within those worlds.
Too long
In short, playing zelda, God of War, or cod isn't a hobby. You're consuming mass-market entertainment. Watching Iron man and NCIS isn't a hobby either.
A hobby is something you devote time to that someone outside of that interest cant relate to the time you sank into it. Shit like high score chasing, 1cc playthroughs, retro collecting, translating, modding, autistic speedrunning, that can count.
The post wasn't really about that but alright sure
no
Yes, but a shitty one. There are tiers of hobbies and video games belong int he lowest hobby which are hobbies that revolve soly around consuming products. If you ask someone what their hobby is and all they can say are
>playing video games
>watching television
or
>trying out food
Then you're dealing with a really boring person who hasn't expanded beyond their teenage years.
thats the Hispanice. its people only use it as a hobby when they genuinely have nothing else. It literally just sounds better than "I do nothing but watch tv or play video games or eat"
yes, and it's better than watching paint dry
>My hobbys include
>breathing
>blinking
>waking up
>yeah im pretty unique
No shit. How is this even a question anymore?
What ISNT a hobby in your mind?
Spending time here
Wish I could leave
and whats the difference between Ganker and a video game?
isnt this just second life without the avatars, names and a bunch of other stuff?
holy shit im getting it now.
i've wasted my life
>and whats the difference between Ganker and a video game?
Are you serious?
>isnt this just second life without the avatars, names and a bunch of other stuff?
Oh, you're not. Shut the hell up, then.
Denial is the first stage.
Go make this thread on Ganker, /co/ or /tg/ instead you dumb gay and see how everyone there tells you to shut the fuck up too.
Guess presenting and defending arguments isn't one of your hobbies
>isnt this just second life without the avatars, names and a bunch of other stuff?
As someone in Second Life right now, I can tell you it isn't.
*unzips dick*
hey
how about now? finna tp back to my skybox?
Yes.
only if your a girl and please stop embarrassing me and put on a proper fursuit already
Ganker.
people say collecting rocks is a hobby, no idea why some retards think it needs to pass some intellectual threshold to be called a hobby.
Yes.
Yes but it is a consumption hobby, which is inherently inferior to a creation hobby.
Both don't hold any meaning outside of the fun you can have with them at the end of the day, so they're about equal.
Well, OR the money you make, but then it's not a hobby anymore.
yes, as long as youre not wasting away in your chair all day with no job and no ambitions its a hobby. if you are doing nothing with your life besides posting on Ganker then no its a distraction
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