Are Visual Novel/CYOA type games considered RPGs?

Are Visual Novel/CYOA type games considered RPGs?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ye

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No, if they were, they wouldn't be called visual novels or CYOA in the first place.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    AoD is a weird one where it's stuck between both and has actual passable combat.

    on my usual god run

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    yeah Disco Elysium sets pretty strong example

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know what it is. Just keeps pulling me back.

      lol, no

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They're more book than game, so no

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Cyoa books (especially with rng) are the same tier as “rpg” video games. Neither are RPGs, but both attempt to imitate them

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I would argue that RNG is not enough to make a CYOA an RPG but I would argue that introducing player characteristics that effect the outcomes of choices does. Doesn't even need to be a traditional stat system.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >I would argue that introducing player characteristics that effect the outcomes of choices does
          Not me.
          There has to be another layer, where you have to make decisions based on those stats as part of a coherent rules-based gameplay system beyond mere skill checks that branch hand-written narratives.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Rance, Daibanchou, Alchemy Meister and Bunny Black are all very solid RPGs despite primarily being VNs. So... Yes!

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    this fight always makes me feel like i'm on drugs

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    FRICKING YES
    fricking archers didn't cheapshot kill my victory finally

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'm surprised they even let you do this fight

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This game has always looked good, maybe when I'm done with PoE games I'll give it a shot. I heard you can get past literally every combat with speech skills

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Not exactly. If you go ahead with certain options, you will be forced into combat. If you have an option to run away or not go along with something, pick it.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm pretty sure I can finish the game like this. Smithing and training are fricking broken.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >bodycount: 162
      bawd.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        what can i say, i make pussies bleed

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is the zombie rpg made by the same devs good?

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Decided to try an IG board character.
    i forgot how absolute fricking shit block is before the endgame where it's the only way to defend against the bullshit boss

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      also fricking hammergays denting my priceless fricking meteor armor

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the bullshit boss
      just become god bro

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        i know

        >Block
        >Absolute fricking shit
        >You get a free +25 on block as a starting bonus i.e. 2 and a half Lvls worth of Skill Points.
        >This on top of the bonus against ranged shit
        >Absolute shit
        No

        chip damage, man
        fricking chip damage

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >fricking chip damage
          It's more predictable than dodge

          Also I'm 99% sure the game uses pseudo-random distribution instead of full random which means that characters will hit more consistently.

          This applies to dodge too.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I prefer dodge's full damage evade to be honest.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Block
      >Absolute fricking shit
      >You get a free +25 on block as a starting bonus i.e. 2 and a half Lvls worth of Skill Points.
      >This on top of the bonus against ranged shit
      >Absolute shit
      No

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why is this "game" here? Go to Wrong board

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Are you brainless still discussing "le definition of RPG"
    Fricking seriously?

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What should I know going into this game?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ah, the highlight of a shield game: full power armor
      i get the wierdest boner

      Well, uh, make sure to save before allocating a large amount of skill points. You might lock yourself out of some things or fail at certain options. If you want to know skill caps for the first town, it's 3-4. Charisma is pretty worthless if you're not going to talk. Intelligence gives an overall boost to skill gain. Strength boosts damage, but you can make do without it entirely if you plot your build around a dex weapon, specifically swords because bleed + poison is one hell of a deadly combo.

      Blocking starts off with a higher chance of proccing but you'll have to wear armor to mitigate damage, which limits your defense abilities. Dodging starts weak but has the highest defensive capability thanks to avoiding damage altogether. Shield outdoes it in the endgame though thanks to the utter brokenness of power armor's forcefield

      also, invest at least one upgrade in alchemy

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    One thing I wonder about the sequel is if they'll ever revisit Earth or have other species worship the Elder Gods.
    maybe there'll be an ending where you go back home and the entire planet ruled by your old player character after having ascended with Balthazaar's essence

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone manage to beat agathoth without canister/bombs? I managed only with an assassin character by spamming arm/leg/torso attacks

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah. He's a pain in the ass that way.
      and going for his kill locks you out of the best ending

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >throwing
        your early game was hell, wasn't it?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Crafting is a must since you'll have to turn all the weapons you find into stuff to throw at people. But it actually worked better than I expected.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Oh no, you got 4 INT.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You can if you destroy Maadoran with sleeper

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Pic unrelated?

    AoD heavily involves skill/stats checks, which is atypical for the average VN, not to mention that the game can be quite combat heavy, depending on which route through the game you take.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They're a type of narrative, not a game.
    Unless you're illiterate, in which case reading can be considered a challenge for you. But (you) are outside what it is. So, that's still a no.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Well, now that I've beaten the game twice with the best ending, I'm going to play through again with the double skill points mod. Maybe gonna even frick with my stats for shits and giggles.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I still like Imperial rome but legit got filtered by the combat, decided to go le dialogue checks and got bored by the savescumming, how to make a viable combat build?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I played with the suggested guard build the game gives you and managed to complete the game just fine without much difficulty. The only thing I did different was go for swords instead of axes.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Did you beat the "tutorial" fight?

      Also specialize in a single weapon and defense skill (dodge xor block).

      Put all your points there

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can I play this game without a guide and not get fricked in this ass? Or at the very least, with just a starting build I've looked up online

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on what you mean by fricked in the ass
      you can't see all stuff there is to see in one run period but you won't even come close to an autistic maximum power fantasy ending without a sperg guide
      I just made a pure combat guy my first run and I got an ending where he basically got screwed because you can't be a dumb psychopath and expect a happy ending no matter how badass you are in personal combat, but I actually found it really satisfying anyway.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone saying they aren't is lying. It's almost a sandbox in what you can do but because stat checks and unwinnable fights you have to go through everything in a specific way and always have stat points on standby for unexpected checks. You're so spread thin you can't even fight and do social you have to pick one or else it's even MORE of a tightrope you're walking. Fanboys will say otherwise, they have a steam guide up I guarantee you because they always know the "secret" shit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you're just wrong and stupid bro. You can ironman a Commercium character in your first run, and a combat character can easily have a satisfying run doing several routes.
        the only other possibility is that you tried to play a thief your first run, which is definitely the hardest path if you refuse to take one of the backdoors out of it to just be a combat character instead

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          *skill-check style assassin is also very painful for most of the same reasons, you get put in positions where if you miss a check you had no overwhelming reason to see coming you either are a combat character or you die

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >
        Everyone saying they aren't is lying. It's almost a sandbox in what you can do but because stat checks and unwinnable fights you have to go through everything in a specific way and always have stat points on standby for unexpected checks. You're so spread thin you can't even fight and do social you have to pick one or else it's even MORE of a tightrope you're walking. Fanboys will say otherwise, they have a steam guide up I guarantee you because they always know the "secret" shit.
        Nah. You simply can't handle a single negative outcome because you are clinically autistic, which is also the reason for why you are a NEET and a virgin.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Lone wolf, grailquest, bloodsword, fabled lands and fighting fantasy are. most are not.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I really, really wish we got more games in this setting.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I come strapped with three crossbows and a dagger. Stroll into the obvious trap with a Boatman swagger.

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