Stop projecting your americanse onto others. If me or anyone else wanted to play base pso2 then they can do that right now because sega keeps the classic server up. It's empty though and no one cares besides SG exploits.
Pso2 was my favorite mmo
NGS is fricking dogshit with no content and they retroactively turned base pso2 into garbage too.
Entire guild just stopped playing because the only thing left is fashion and erp.
I wish I could get into BDO but for new players its a giant confusing mess. 20 different pop-ups and a million notifactions. Insane amount of shortcuts and UI clutter. Like holy frick I'm level 1 let me kill a wolf in peace. It's like no matter where I go or what I do I feel like I'm missing out on something and end up uninstalling.
Yeah, I started playing BDO recently and it feels just like that. I played with the dicky, but everything is a confusing mess. It's like those webm people would make with an overabundance of UI shit.
No.
People blame smartphone and other game options for the death of MMORPGs, but that's not quite right.
People forget that the MMORPG golden era (RS2, Guild Wars, WoW) kicked off in a time BEFORE the average American home had ONE mobile flip phone (smartphones did not exist), much less a smartphone in the hand of every little shit.
Wanted to grouptext?
Play an MMO. It's your only option aside from MSN/AOL messenger.
Wanted to talk to a friend without calling them from the living room landline?
Play an MMO or meet up IRL.
We are NEVER going back because life will never be as QUIET as 2004/5.
I honestly blame social media. You're right about phones too, and I never thought of that, but most MMOs that were big got big before Facebook absolutely blasted off.
I don't have experience with most of these games, but if Albion Online is an A-tier MMORPG, then... >MMORPG renascence?
... no. No we are not. We are in the midst of a shovelware flood, where ESL-tier garbage reigns and pic-rel is the equivalent GBA equivalent.
Sure, some people bought and enjoyed Horsez on the GBA, but some people are also, statistically speaking, moronic.
Albion is your only option if you want a PvP MMORPG that isn't a ghost town. Everything else on the list is a PvE themepark that's trying to be a singleplayer game.
>mmo renaissance >no good old games left standing >no games out recently or coming up >nothing in the distant future either >can't even spell renaissance
>No shitty wow clone even though it's a wow clone that got destroyed by wow and became so irrelevant compared to the game they were copying that they had to make a new wow clone mmo
The combat mechanics are really good but the game rarely lets you actually flex, especially since pvp is probably still as dead as it was mid last expac.
It depends, what high quality graphics is change with time, quality writing can be timeless though. Gameplay can also evolve with time in some regards.
I'm playing through GW2 (currently looking for mastery points for the mount expansion) and if this game is an S for you I have some great news : actually fun video games exist out there.
There has not been a pretty looking MMO since Tree of Savior and maybe Maplestory 2. There's barely been any MMOs since at all, even.
"Renascence"? More like Dark Ages.
>Want to play a game with skill-shots >Find one >It looks amazing, with the aesthetics of a Ratchet & Clank game. >It's called Wildstar, and it was apparently shit, and is now dead.
I'd move lotro down to B tier, even C tier because the last update was some diversity and inclusion shit that broke half the game.
But otherwise it can still be pretty comfy. It's worth playing just to see the shitstorm though.
For me it's NGS.
If your mmo doesn't have action combat then you are just in F tier.
NGS fricking sucks, base pso2 was way better
OK baseboomer.
I'm sorry your dumb ass never got to experience base pso2 NAzoomer
Stop projecting your americanse onto others. If me or anyone else wanted to play base pso2 then they can do that right now because sega keeps the classic server up. It's empty though and no one cares besides SG exploits.
>we can just play the raped version of it so its the exact same
bet you think classic wow is the same as vanilla too fricking ape
>PSO2mers arguing while the real chads are playing PSO on Ephinea
who
gay pso 1 private server where all you do is run op event quests
asked
Pso2 was my favorite mmo
NGS is fricking dogshit with no content and they retroactively turned base pso2 into garbage too.
Entire guild just stopped playing because the only thing left is fashion and erp.
I wish I could get into BDO but for new players its a giant confusing mess. 20 different pop-ups and a million notifactions. Insane amount of shortcuts and UI clutter. Like holy frick I'm level 1 let me kill a wolf in peace. It's like no matter where I go or what I do I feel like I'm missing out on something and end up uninstalling.
Yeah, I started playing BDO recently and it feels just like that. I played with the dicky, but everything is a confusing mess. It's like those webm people would make with an overabundance of UI shit.
Yeah the game feels awful when you start it up as a new player. I uninstalled it 5 minutes in.
No.
People blame smartphone and other game options for the death of MMORPGs, but that's not quite right.
People forget that the MMORPG golden era (RS2, Guild Wars, WoW) kicked off in a time BEFORE the average American home had ONE mobile flip phone (smartphones did not exist), much less a smartphone in the hand of every little shit.
Wanted to grouptext?
Play an MMO. It's your only option aside from MSN/AOL messenger.
Wanted to talk to a friend without calling them from the living room landline?
Play an MMO or meet up IRL.
We are NEVER going back because life will never be as QUIET as 2004/5.
I honestly blame social media. You're right about phones too, and I never thought of that, but most MMOs that were big got big before Facebook absolutely blasted off.
I don't have experience with most of these games, but if Albion Online is an A-tier MMORPG, then...
>MMORPG renascence?
... no. No we are not. We are in the midst of a shovelware flood, where ESL-tier garbage reigns and pic-rel is the equivalent GBA equivalent.
Sure, some people bought and enjoyed Horsez on the GBA, but some people are also, statistically speaking, moronic.
Albion is your only option if you want a PvP MMORPG that isn't a ghost town. Everything else on the list is a PvE themepark that's trying to be a singleplayer game.
There isnt a single MMO above B tier on this list
There are 13
you are blind
>anything above a B
>most of these are dead
>mmo renaissance
>no good old games left standing
>no games out recently or coming up
>nothing in the distant future either
>can't even spell renaissance
Maybe in a few years when all the new games release, there is nothing worth playing right now.
You still spamming Black person ?
Ack yourself.
>Lost ark in a tier
>Blac desert in S
>ESO in S
This lost was made by a fomogay that doesn't play mmos
>Ragnarok Online D
>no FFXI Online listed at all when it was WoW's main competition for most of the 2000's
>No shitty wow clone even though it's a wow clone that got destroyed by wow and became so irrelevant compared to the game they were copying that they had to make a new wow clone mmo
>ffxi
>WoWclone
try again you underage homosexual
FFXI was a better Everquest and it was the literal perfect MMO, are you on crack?
it was also a gigantic fricking time sink that destroyed your life
That's the genre as a whole
>FFXI was released in 2002
>WoW was released in 2004
LOL moron
FFXI came before WoW you stupid twatc**t
wrong
xi was in early access then (i.e. not a real release)
I can you pulled that post out of your ass cause it reeks of semen and turd.
Black person, it had its first expac by the time WoW came out what the frick are you talking about.
What the actual frick are you talking about, MMOs are as dead as they've ever been, the whole genre is a fricking wasteland.
>no warhammer ror
So close yet so far. Knock 14 down to D and it's perfect.
Is guild wars 2 really that good?
Yep, time to swap my little wowbuck
The combat mechanics are really good but the game rarely lets you actually flex, especially since pvp is probably still as dead as it was mid last expac.
>WOW
>not SSS tier
this list is trash
wowbuck gonna freak
All these games are old though? It's up to ashes of creation. New world is alright I guess.
How does that affect their quality at all?
Peoples expectations change with time since things evolve, there are other genres of games that influence what we can expect in an mmo as well.
What you expect has no bearing on quality. Something can be high quality and you might not like it, that's just your opinion.
It depends, what high quality graphics is change with time, quality writing can be timeless though. Gameplay can also evolve with time in some regards.
>eso in S
nah, they have a lot to unfrick to make it decent
Shit list I’m out
>Alboshit, a p2w game, in A tier
Kys
I'm playing through GW2 (currently looking for mastery points for the mount expansion) and if this game is an S for you I have some great news : actually fun video games exist out there.
yeah, but not int he MMO space
>eve online
>A tier
Too high
There has not been a pretty looking MMO since Tree of Savior and maybe Maplestory 2. There's barely been any MMOs since at all, even.
"Renascence"? More like Dark Ages.
reminder that all women will forever be bonded to the penis that broke their hymen.
accepting a non-virgin woman makes (You) a cuck.
>Neverwinter in A
I would agree with you if we were back in 2013, that game is complete trash currently.
I miss my arcanist. Convince me not to reinstall.
>Want to play a game with skill-shots
>Find one
>It looks amazing, with the aesthetics of a Ratchet & Clank game.
>It's called Wildstar, and it was apparently shit, and is now dead.
>SWTOR
>B tier
I probably have 1000+ hours in SWTOR but it's a shit MMO. Beyond D tier.
nope
>Started playing Dofus again
>YOU NEED 4-8 PEOPLE TO COMPLETE ANY DUNGEON
>Ask help in chat
>Ignored
>Stopped playing
>LFG in the in-game chat that only online players can see
Everyone is using discord to organize group content regardless of what MMO you play.
I'd move lotro down to B tier, even C tier because the last update was some diversity and inclusion shit that broke half the game.
But otherwise it can still be pretty comfy. It's worth playing just to see the shitstorm though.