Are we still pretending that this isn't one of the best entries in the series?
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Are we still pretending that this isn't one of the best entries in the series?
Are we still pretending that this isn't one of the best entries in the series?
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Sorry to burst your bubble but even Japan hates it.
The theme interests me but the gameplay looks like trash. Somebody compared it to DMC, he's delusional ain't he?
It far exceeds DMC.
Ok so, is it challenging at least? I've seen the introduction and it's long as frick and boring, it picks up later?
Why would people dislike the game if the gameplay is good.
Its not challenging at all. The hard mode is locked behind beating the boring as shit base game once, and even then it isn't that hard. The game also completely lacks superbosses.
First run of the game is locked to action or jouno mode, meaning you have to go through it once to get the other difficulties. Also, besides base game encounters, there’s only hunts to mess with (they’re good but there should be even more). Lastly, and this one is important, FF fans genuinely can’t understand action combat. They lose their marbles if the game doesn’t force them to use a specific move on a specific enemy, and will complain about lack of depth if the game doesn’t explain every part of clive’s moveset and abilities in detail.
Every single fight in this game goes the same, literally.
>Use stagger skills
>If it isn't staggered, keep using your lame normals until your skills refill
>Stagger enemy
>Use skills
>Repeat
Every single fricking enemy falls to this strategy. Every. Single. One. There is no room for any real combos because all your fun moves have cooldowns, making it worse than DMC
You can actually shit out damage without falling into that loop of dumping your abilities during the staggered phase like 95% of the people who played the game https://youtu.be/jev6GKiUfTQ?si=kf6nsc8aT1-zphNW
Eikonic feats are like a third skill that you always have access to
The game was a failure anon, just stop
We’ll sorry for actually trying to discuss games. I expected too much from a video game board
the challenge is completely absent, the game fails because the combat is uniformly mindless. it would be an excellent combat system if the encounters were remotely challenging, sadly they are not.
You're joking, right?
>guy spamming one move for 12 minutes
Is that supposed to be impressive?
I wouldn’t say it’s better than dmc 5 or 3 but it’s still good.
The only thing you did here was dodge, and it's a very forgiving dodge. You even failed the Titan parry.
You know DMC isn't just known for its flash, right? It has an amazing in-depth combo system. One that FF16 entirely lacks.
>It has an amazing in-depth combo system.
So does XVI.
even xv has more combating variety than 16
XV has controllable party members and a real skill tree. XVI lacks both of those. It has unlockable skills, but its certainly not a tree. Its so barebones even that there's no reason for it to even exist.
You seem to forget that the playable characters were added in an update, years later. The skill tree is barebones in XV too. I know this because I’ve played the game through to completion 100% twice over. Now shut the frick, and stop being a little lying Black person.
Damn dude, how impressive. Can you post this but if someone turned on the goddamn lights though?
Why do people keep posting fights with damage sponge brain dead enemies who take forever to kill and act like it's enticing?
He also didnt mention that clives 4 hit combo is the only you have the entire game after your eikon abilities are on cool down
because that's DMC and the whole genre in nutshell yes, it's garbage, you got memed to think they were ever good g ames
>t.fromslop enjoyer
Or you’re a projecting NGgay
I've never seen another game that murders bitrate quite like this one
>animations are complete basic
>1 billion effects to make it "good"
Yep, its a Final Fantasy game.
>1 billion effects to make it "good"
nice bitrate you fricking idiot
Same combat director so no.
Not even top 5, but not lowest 5 either.
It's not on DMC's level but it's not far off either. Clive could probably have passed as a gimmicky side character that's fun for a while but you'd always default back to Dante. The combat is actually fun when fighting anything that doesn't just die in 5 hits or gets stunlocked effortlessly. It's mostly everything else that drags the game down to kinda mediocre territory.
It's to dmc what sop is to nioh except it's slapped full of an entire kitchen of action game crap running from asuras wrath to og gow instead of having a job system
It’s not as deep or versatile as DMC but I still enjoyed it more because
>combat is more counter oriented, rather than juggle based
>everything else apart from combat far exceeds DMC
>what if we took the philosophy of XIV's braindead summoner rework and made a whole game around it
no wonder i wasn't feeling the combat
thanks for funding my next expansion though
If you like movies, sure. The story was very engaging for me, but the gameplay was nothing.
Still much better gameplay than fricking FF7.
It failed anon, let it go
>are we still pretending it's good
I guess that's the cope until mindbroken Squeenix c**ts run out of copium and understand they got fricked over and commit ritualistic mass-suicide
Can you rewrite that sentence without sounding like a tilted homosexual?
Easily down there with XIII as one of the all-time worsts.
This first 13 was the only one I enjoyed the most. At the time I loved the gameplay but I loved the art direction and cutscenes more.
Loved the design of Lightnings folding sword. Thought the Fal'cie form of Barthandelus was fricking awesome, his fights had epic music too.
The other two games were aids.
13 is honestly much better than 15 and 16 lmao
This but unironically.
no
13 and 16 are the worst and not ff.
15 is a real ff and ludokino.
XV wasn't fricking finished
Top 3 for me for sure
Jill best girl
It's the best since X, but I dont know if it's even in the top 10 overall. Certainly not top 5.
It's unironically the worst AAA game since Alien Colonial Marines.
>What is FFXV
the best ff.
Based
RE3R
A couple of years ago, like before the reveal of Resident Evil 7, I saw on some YouTube comments that Reskdent Evil fans were bummed when they heard rumors that Jill Valentine was going to be the protagonist of Resident Evil 7. Rumors turned out to be fricking wrong. When Jill Valentine finally got her remake, it was botched. So shut the frick.
*STFU
It’s my third favorite, after 10 and 9.
I dropped it after Bahamut I simply didn't care anymore about whatever it was we were trying to do.
I'm sure Odin and Ultima were cool fights but jesus frick I didn't want to go back to the Hideaway and talk to npcs again.
same. After a huge epic fight it feels like a step down when you have to go out into the desert to look for 5 patches of dark soil to advance the story. Seriously bad pacing.
It's one of my favorites.
Literally should have taken out the RPG mechanics and went full dmc so the enemies were less yawn inducing.
What RPG mechanics? The zones and the sidequests?
Clive’s “levels”
Clive's levels and "Weapon upgrades"
~~*Clive*~~
Jews hate Clive.
I'm all ears, explain to me why israelites hate the hero of zion
Automata mogs trash 16, is universally liked and got good word of mouth.
Yoko Taro > hack fraud Yoshida.
If Yoshida is a fraud, explain FFXIV.
>everyone hates Endwalker
Easy.
Endwalker was great. Post Enwalker content is fricking garbage though.
Yeah, 6.0 was great, then the content patches came and completely ruined the legacy of the expansion. Its kind of the reverse of Stormblood.
6.1 looked so promising too, just some comfy fun treasure hunting with the bros. Then BAM, back to dragons and void shit. Can't wait for it to be over.
Carried by Ishikawa.
Shit tier "mmo" for the lowest common denominator that is mostly played by troons is successful in spite of its bad game design
>If Yoshida is a fraud, explain FFXIV.
Riding on the success of a much better MMO at the time.
Yes, he's a fraud and nothing he does is original if he's riding off the backs of better developers to carry his shit, he needed the fricking KH4 team and Platinum to help with XVI.
an mmo he hijacked and just replaced it with WoW with a ff14 like skin
which then became the social gathered spot for a few thousand trannies who keep buying shit from the cash shop, fooling morons into thinking people even play ff14 actively, to the point SE stopped reporting actual numbers of paid accounts (mind you not active accounts) and flubbed then with free trial accounts to make the number look big just so they have a big number to tout.
No way fricking way you morons think a fricking CD based action game is anywhere as good as DMC. I refuse to believe anyone could be that stupid.
You'll have to forgive XVI simps. Coming from RPGs they've never played a real action game before and thus have no frame of reference for anything.
For all the talk about 16, I haven't seen enough said about how truly rancid the story and writing is. It is literally The Eye of Argon tier and the Lostwing/Quinten side quests might be the worst written questline in AAA gaming history. Seriously, people who played through it know, and those who don't need to stay away for their own sake.
I thought the story and characters were good. People got filtered.
More like you're not analyzing it properly.
>clive/wyvern spends thirteen years with his squad
>within five minutes he reunites with his childhood friend, his future mentor, and his childhood dog that just to happened to have been raised by his future mentor
>he backstabs the people he considered his brothers all for the sake of some girl from his childhood he didn't even know that well
>"oh yeah and while I raised and cared for this dog for thirteen years you can have him because you knew him for a month as a pup lmao"
XVI is Contrivances: the game. You can like it, its totally okay, but its absolutely not "good."
Not that anon but it's absolutely good to me.
Those are pretty minor contrivances, I'm more than willing to bet you're relatively autistic if you think Clive thought of his literal captors as brethren
One of them got crushed and he literally referred to him as "brother." Not in the same manner as Joshua obviously, but they spent years together and were close enough.
He's referring to Joshua, actually. He was reminded that once again he couldn't save anyone and thought of his brother, this is more obvious in JP.
>spends thirteen years doing heinous shit against his will
>the one person that he gives a shit about was the target all along
>drops everything to defend her cause he couldn’t help his brother and the others who died at Phoenix gate
>his dog collected his belongings and brought them to his secret hideout for undisclosed amount of time until cid finds him and looks after him
>cid (whose entire goal was to unite bearers and dominants) was looking for shiva’s dominant until he sees there’s some dude using the Phoenix’ flame, immediately realizing the bearer is Clive
The only contrivance in there is cid finding torgal. The rest is either a reach or you didn’t play the game.
>jill just happened to be Shiva just because
>b-but her fami
never once hinted at prior to her just being shiva just because
>cid just happens to be looking for shiva just because and just happens to have torgal just because and just happens to recognise Clive despite no photo or painting of him existing just because and never having met him prior just because
>clive literally says "brother..." to biast after he got squished so he did care for them, they were all slaves just like he was, brother in arms under the same circumstances, clives oppressors are sanbreque, his mother, the emporer and dion, not fricking tiamat whos just trying to live same as clive
>cid literally fricking fights other dominants and is antagonistic towards benedikta and barnabas and hugo
>just happens to know what phoenix flame looks like from clive using it once in a single attack in a dusty desert canyon that cid would have already been at
>all this comes literally 5 minutes after we learn clive is turned into a slave, "killed" his brother and his mother betrayer rosaria
clive being a "slave" added nothing to the story because we never see anything come of it and its completely undone the second he sides with cid, from that point on he's are saved from slavery which to the player is only 5 minutes after we find out he became a slave
its pointless shit and just bad writing
its all bad writing
>jill just happened to be shiva just because
>never once hinted
You didn't play the game. But I'll do you a solid and tell you what I thought was obvious info the common player should grasp in the prologue. Jill is a political hostage from the NORTHERN territories, whose CRYSTAL had recently fallen. She also happened to not be present at Phoenix gate. Again, you didn't play the game. Don't act like you did.
How did I know this would be your cope lmao
I literally said there is no way the player is supposed to know her family had shiva blood before its revealed she's suddenly shiva just because
that shit is only revealed AFTER the fact and in a fricking atl too which itself is never mentioned in the story when you meet het
the entire prologue jill has like 3 lines of dialog one jist saying she worried about a war happening and another saying good luck to clive or some shit, she just stands around the rest of the pool or holds torgal and thats fricking it
thats all you get of her before its suddenly revealed 13 years later she is shiva just because
>b-but shes not at le phone gate
and neither was anabella you tard, she only arrived there after everything went down
>completely ignores everything I said
And there it is. You actually didn't play the game. Just be honest next time.
The only bad thing about that is Clive didn't hesitate enough to turn against them.
>Cid was already hounding eikons
>he knew jill well enough and was glad she survived
Torgal wasn't with Cid/the hideout for 13 years he eventually found them and was taken care of mostly by Charon. Cid was looking for Clive and possibly Jill as well and Torgal led him to them, and while this is extremely contrived we find out later that Torgal has a magical bond with Eikon users because of his species so that might've drawn him to Cid in the first place. The actual issue with Torgal is the people at the hideout didn't give him a new name at any point but whatever.
Clive only has to turn on one of his brothers (who happens to be the most antagonistic assholish one of the bunch) because the other two die before there's a conflict and Jill was basically his adopted sister so acting like she was just some b***h he barely knew is insane, any link to his former life is going to set him off let alone seeing her again. He doesn't kill the guy happily but no way is he killing his sister waifu for some homosexual ass empire.
>Clive only has to turn on one of his brothers
hmm that sounds remarkably similar to the story of judas. I will now refer to him as ~~*clive iscariot*~~
FFXVI Story is a 2/10. The visuals and the music are doing all the heavy lifting but it's an utter DOGSHIT story, this is the writing of a fricking 10 year old.
The way there is just these constant coincides and shit like, oh they arrived at the city and it just so happens that's the night Dion stage his rebellion, or like, oh just so happens when they come back to fix the ship that's when the gates bust down and the Akashic come through the gates and also Sleipnir is there again. Fricking Clive loses his whole entire family, his whole entire life, living day by day with no personality, hopes or dreams apart from finding out who killed his brother (turns out it was him but also not really), and then in the space of fricking FIVE minutes finds his long lost "sister", forsakes his whole station, kills his squad mates, meets someone who recognizes him for the first time, and that person just so happens to have his fricking DOG from when he was a kid, this happens literally FIVE fricking minutes after the fricking flash forward.
I can't even say it had good characters because it really didn't, at best there was Dion but he has barely any screentime, Cid was ok but was a fricking moron, there was no good villain and any villain that could've been good was killed right when they were about to get interesting. There was no interplay between the pathetic excuse for a party, Jill was just a whole nothing character for the whole game, there was no chemistry between her and Clive, and shit like when Joshua reunites with Clive he doesn't even ask anything like "where the frick where have you been?, Why didn't you try to find me?".
The characters don't make decisions that make any amount of sense, they're not engaged in the story, they're not exploring their options, they're not thinking or talking, they're just nothing, they're just vessels to move the plot forward, it's like a bunch of school kids larping on the playground. This story was absolute dogshit. Frick its bad.
>I can't even say it had good characters because it really didn't, at best there was Dion but he has barely any screentime
setting clive and dion up as foils but dion's story is the better version and it's relegated to forty minutes of screentime was a mistake. I knew it was bad when dion cared more about killing anabella than her real son did
i think the l'ubor questline is worse with how flip-floppy everyone is
L'ubor is almost as bad, which really speaks to how much of an atrocity FFXVI is. 2 of the worst questlines in gaming history are both in the same game,
honestly, most of the town sidequests were subpar
only the red chocobo one was good because of the conclusion, martha's was alright since it's nice that eastpool was filled
Who was lubor again?
I liked the endgame sidequests for all the major support characters like the desert siblings, quentin, etc. And Torgal's.
Still nowhere near as bad as xv-kun.
I enjoyed new game+ becuase I didn't feel any compelling reason to listen to the side quest (becuase I knew they were all terrible) and just skipped all the dialog. The game was way more enjoyable. The sidequests should have all just been cut from the game and then just focus on game mechanics/systems/endgame stuff.
>unironically comparing anything to Eye of Argon
lmao honestly wasn't expecting something like that
>tryhard, stoic, edgy protagonist
>30 minute cutscenes every five steps
>corridor zones
>le "god hates us" story
>le "fight against fate" and "fight for my sibling" character motivation
>lifeless, barren, soulless world with no exploration and absolutely nothing to do in it besides killing hunts
>terrible crafting system
>very limited number of usable items
Am I describing Final Fantasy XIII or Final Fantasy XVI? its both
>tryhard stoic edgy protagonist
You got it wrong on the first one. That’s almost impressive. Here’s your (you) for today
Lightning isn't edgy.
>Lightning isn't edgy.
Threatens to murder children, then gives a minor a knife, lol.
she was literally gave a kid with no fight experience a knife and told him to survive against monsters like a day after his mom died
>playing in English
The defining trait of Final Fantasy is shallow template stories with even worse gameplay.
>tryhard, stoic, edgy protagonist
Clive is a larper and book nerd who loves his wife very much.
It could be the best videogame to have ever graced the medium in the history of mankind, past, present, and future.
And it still wouldn't play like Final Fantasy. So my respect for the game is extremely limited and I am no fan of it at all.
Reminder this poster is a 30 something loser with convincing people over a mongolian basketweaving forum that his dogshit game doesn't suck.
the only person who thinks this game isn't at least good thinks crap like Forspoken has "god tier gameplay" and is a good game
Forspoken actual has gameplay unlike ff16
and forspoken at least has elemental weaknesses and magic stats
its more of an rpg than ff16 is
>sbk91 the troony is still posting prerelease demo footage on easy mode not even the actual game
ngmi
Too bad everything else about Forspoken outside of traversal mechanics blows.
the combat mogs 16 in every way
ff16 tanked SEs stock, not chadspoken
>cries over Forspoken footage being from a playable demo that came out 1 month before release
>proceeds to post a webm of FF16 footage stolen from a trailer over 6 months before release
and ff16 is identical to that because there are no actual modes, even picking story mode over action changes nothing to the enemies stats or your own stats and damage output
meanwhile forspoken on easy is completely different to on hard or very hard because it completely changes damage given/received entirely and more
most are and 16 is the worst one
>filler ability vs ability that probably caused knockdown
Curious.
shift strike is literally your basic gap closer attack in ff16 not a filler attack
that forspoken clip is using the fire fist melee attack finisher then just a regular aerial attack which are on the R2 magic so not "ability" magic but melee action magic
L2 magic in forspoken is your ability magic that's on a cooldown like the ff16 eikon abilities
The story is dogshit regardless, but I can't help but feel that shoddy translation turned a 3/10 story in Japanese into a literal 1/10 that burgers will use to torture captives in the future.
I like the music there's no denying that
We will continue to pretend until it hits PC. Can't wait to see Death Stranding/God of War treatment.
It's in an awkward middle-of-the-road position among FFs, and this fact pisses off a lot of people, both the fans who wanted it to be a masterpiece, but also the haters who finally wanted to see that TORTANTIC 2.0 come to fruition for real.
You would think this war TORtanic 2.0 with how XVI's performance caused SE's stock to tank.
The reason is that delusional SE suits thought that FFXVI could overcompensate for losses from other projects like Forspoken, instead FFXVI was just a "decent" title that generated profit, but much less than they banked for and couldn't compensate for the losses of the other games.
No, stop regurgitating IGNs stupid made up shit, the stock tanked because XVI couldnt profit off its OWN dev and marketing costs, it has nothing to do with shit from prior fiscal years
The least ambitious Final Fantasy...
>The least ambitious Final Fantasy...
Incorrect.
FF5 exists.
Yes, the best Final Fantasy game does exist, correct.
FF5 is great.
But it's also the most unambitious FF.
"Ambitious" and "great" are not synonyms
ff5s job system is more ambitious than anything in ff16
the sheer amount of different sprites they had to make per job is ambitious itself for a 2D sprite jrpg in 1992
>ff5s job system is more ambitious than anything in ff16
You mean FF3's job system. FF5 copied it from 3.
FF5 doesn't have original systems in it. It isn't the first FF to focus strongly on narrative either. All it did was remove a hindrance in the job
system.
FF5 is the least ambitious FF. That doesn't mean it's bad.
ff3 didn't have it as ambitious as ff5s
ff3 was like a prototype compared to 5
also 3 had no actual characters in the party or any real characters
5 has gilgamesh and people still hold galuf in high esteem because of how he went out
5 had no original ideas in it. there was nothing ambitious about it.
you're getting ideas confused here.
5 in its iteration is still more ambitious than ff16
See
>ambitious
that word doesn't mean what you think it means.
FF5 is literally the least ambitious FF.
Again, that does NOT mean that it's bad. You're confused what ambitious means. FF5 was good BECAUSE it didn't try to be ambitious. It tried to take what people already liked about FF and just work off that.
It's ok but I would pretty much put IV, VI, VII, IX, X, XII above it and I haven't played the first three, V or the MMOs. It's on par with VIII in regards that has interesting parts but is quite flawed, at least I would put it above XIII and XV even if these have a few individual strengths above it.
It's nowhere near as good as VIII
tactics>7>6>9>5>3>16>15>10-2>1>12>10>8>2>4>Origins>Gameboy>13
7th best of all time. Though I respect 14’s 2 billion dollar revenue.
16>7R>15*
its worse than anything in xv and any ff.
No FF is worse than XV
I'm of the same mind, although I would rate it higher than XII too
I loved it. Great story, characters, music, combat/gameplay. Side mission pacing dragged at points and some exploration within those maps would have been nice but 9/10, great. NG+ difficulty is a must.
I really liked Eikon battles, though, Ganker....Not like we'll get console Godzilla games ever again aside from that Gigabash DLC
classic barry thirst thread, I guess crying over ubihard towers got old so now it's time for the coy to beg barry for help keeping final fantasy alive on Ganker
Square Enix has the most obsessive haters imaginable. I don’t go crawling into pikmin 4 or BG3 threads and blinding shitting on games I haven’t played. You guys are on a whole other level of seethe I can’t even comprehend.
I don't need to play a game to have an opinion on it.
Thanks for letting everyone know your opinions worthless and irelevant
>I don’t go crawling into pikmin 4
yes you do yoshiter, you will crawl to pikman and beg for mercy
I hate XVI because I did play it moron.
Watching a YouTube video isn’t playing the game
The game may as well be watching a Youtube video, because the actual game portion of it is absolutely worthless. The world has absolutely NOTHING in it. There is absolutely no content aside from MMO sidequests and hunts. Exploration is a waste of time because the world doesn't have anything aside from maybe five spools of steelsilk if you're lucky. All RPG elements were thrown in the dumpster in service of a combat system that is shallow as a puddle. And even if it wasn't shallow and had depth to it, the game has no superbosses so mastering the combat isn't at all rewarding.
16 would greatly benefit from something like the everfall in dragons dogma, not enough to save it from being a pile of shit but it would help
That's the case for most games but for XVI you could definitely watch that trash on youtube and get the same experience lol.
except that happens to literally every game
Not even one of the best entries on PS5
barry runs cell block Ganker
the cult of yoshit is beholden to barry and his main event threads
im that guy who was playing the JP dub thinking it was the definitive language to play at. Nowhere near done, maybe 25% in but heres my unsolicited review
Likes
>graphics. some top tier framing of gorgeous locations, Drake's head comes to mind. im just happy finally we get a new gen exclusive that takes advantage of a beefy console.
>music and VA. Square does it again, god damn the music in this game is amazing - Drakes head once again comes to mind, the mix of the awe inspiring vista and Reflections kicking in is a top 5 gaming moment for me. the transition to combat music is always smooth and natural, you wont notice it.
>combat and gameplay. im shit at games like DMC but I understand the spectacle and the "self-challenge". i see the potential for styling here, but sadly thats not my thing. still its fun and very diverse and you can mix it up a ton. the animations are very good. there are some very cool setpieces, ifrit vs typhon come to mind and clive vs shadow. In both instances they are perfect melding of gameplay and narrative - the first time you limit break was set up perfectly and was presented in a way only games can make you experience.
>story, setting and characters. The tone of the game is a massive departure from previous games, and sadly I think a lot of gamers might dismiss it because of this even when its executed really well for the most part (the bearer torture porn becomes too much from time to time). anyway the game is a lot more somber, with little comedic moments and characters of note. The characters are given a ton of development - exemplary in Clive's first arc post the incident.
Dislikes
>difficulty. it could be harder, but it does get marginally more challenging as the game progresses. im seeing in posts here that there is a hard mode locked behind story completion, they should have just unlocked it from the start.
(1/2)
don't bother posting the rest, nobody's even reading this one
Dislikes (cont)
>side quests. I like my side quests as they can add some layer of exposition on the world and the characters and can be used as foreshadowing for things to come. the side quests in this game arent that for the most part, while some do show additional context (abt the hideout, or bearer discrimination) - some are just plain inconsequential and its hard to tell which is which before hand. the gameplay tied to sidequests is mostly your mmo/ubisoft fare.
>exploration and reward system. you arent incentivized to explore, but I understand that this game isnt about that. the rewards you get from fights or from roaming is useless (at least so far).
>rpg mechanics. nigh inexsistent. for some reason the game gives me a frick ton of mats but nothing to use them for? im waiting for the game to open up in the upgrades area but its just not happening yet and there is literally zero choice involved on how to kit Clive. I understand that this could just be a consequence of the gameplay being action focused, but I think they could have found a better middle ground (something like ff7r, but still tilting towards the action game angle)
Oh and the game has serious pacing issues. The setpieces and end of arc battles are such high highs that going back to the overworld and doing inconsequential shit feels very tedious.
I enjoyed it. It took me 48 hours on my first playthrough in action mode completing all side quests. Not interested in new game plus. I just wished there was a harder difficulty. I love the romance in the game and the side characters were good. Need some dlc dating chapters.
Combat was better than hold the X button with FF15 and FF7R.
>'FF7R was bad' meme
You're about to miss reset bro, you don't want to miss the free ten pull on the seasonal draw. Gotta get that six star Red XIII collar.
Loved the melee combat. The more irrelevant it became, more the game worsened until it became just one big timer countdown. Still my GOTY though, story carried it. I agree with your point's on 15 and 7R.
If this is your game of the year you have shit taste and I hate that you exist
NG+ does have harder difficulty.
Maybe in the latter portion of it, because the early to mid game is absolutely not balanced around you having all eikons at your disposal. In some areas NG+ is even easier than the base game was.
Worst opinion I've seen yet. XVI's combat was absolute garbage, while 7R's was phenomenal. 7R had party members each with their own unique playstyles. 7R had actual RPG mechanics like elements and status effects. 7R had boss fights that had actual mechanics that weren't just dodge attacks and don't stand in the MMO markers. Even then 7R's combat was more customizable than XVI's because materia links offer far more combat flexibility than XVI's cooldown-based combat system, where your abilities don't interact with one another in any meaningful way.
>shitty defensive options, basically forced to take damage unless you pull some bullshit
>aggro switch with swapped characters meaning you can frick with enemies by constantly switching and using effective spells and items
>aerial combat kek
My respect for 7R’s combat begins and ends with playable party members. It’s a confused mess that doesn’t know if it’s an rpg or an action game. Luckily rebirth exists so they can fix it.
>block and parry are your main mitigation options since dodging is admittedly near useless since you get no iframes like you would a souls game
>aggro switching would be even worse if it didn't exist since you could just let barrett tank while you go ham with the other two
I'll give you aerial combat, and from what we've seen of Rebirth so far they've given Cloud some aerial moves so they're seemingly rectifying this pain point.
You press more buttons in xv in combat than anything 16 requires
you don't even have manual finishers or directional inputs or weapon switching in ff16 you moron
Mogged by BG3, TOTK, AC6, Elden ring and genshin impact
Elden Ring was 2022 and mogs everything. TotK will rightfully win GOTY because it’s the perfect kids game. BG3’s a fantastic game and was much more fun to play, but for some reason the C rated story and clusterfrick 3rd chapter gives FF16 the edge to me. I can’t imagine a good mech game but without having played it that’s ignorant to say.
BG3 will definitely win GOTY.
Nah. It should, but the industry will support the kids option in a near tie. Better optics. I’d put money on it, though we both know which one is the vastly superior game.
add pikman 4 you stupid homosexual
All of those mogged totk too
This, unironically
Tendies keep hiding behind other games at the same time they beg not to compare botw dlc to BG3 or Genshin
Just because ff16 is shit doesn't make totk less shit
Yes
And?
All jokes aside, is this worth the 70 USD price tag or should I wait for a sale?
Absolutely 100% wait for a sale. Or just watch the story on Youtube.
I would not play it for free. It's not worth the time investment.
Yes.
It’s a 50 hour game in which you will enjoy 35 hours of it. Is that worth 70 to you?
Shut the frick up you undercover shill homosexual. Literally only 1 hour of the game is even remotely enjoyable (bahamut and titan)
You forgot Ifrit.
What's wrong with the other 15 hours?
My review. The combat at the end just wasn’t fun, the enemies were also repetitive. FF16 is pretty much 100% carried by its story and if you are not a smart person will let you down. It sounds pretentious as frick but it amazes me how many posters hate the game because they think it insults the Christian God when they missed the whole plot was referencing Schopenhauer and their emperor.
>akshully XVI is very well written
Ah yes, Ultima and his inability to comprehend consciousness.
You will never be a bat!
witty
>when they missed the whole plot was referencing Schopenhauer and their emperor.
no it's just another jrpg with an ancient god-like being who looks down on humans. It's no deeper than that. Midwits like you are pretty funny though.
Cool beans
The game itself is incredibly shallow and utterly devoid of content. Say what you want about the characters, story, and music, the game portion of it has nothing going for it aside from the combat, and the combat really isn't complex enough to make up for the rest of the shortcomings. The bosses are all also very samey, with them all taking place in very obvious boss arenas consisting of a flat square or circle, and feature zero mechanics aside from simply dodge shit or don't stand in the bad.
And the big Eikon fights? Basically the same as your Clive fights, except you have 2/3rds of your abilities stripped away, so your already shallow combat becomes even more shallow. And the Cinematic Clash/Evade QTEs are just dumb. They're nothing more than a countermeasure to ensure you don't put the controller down while the game plays a cutscene for the next six minutes.
I bought it new. Wasn't worth the full price. 30 or less is what I'd recommend.
Dont even buy it
It was a good game, but extremely bloated because people expect Final Fantasy's to be long. A linear ARPG does not need to be 60 hours long if you do the sidequests. The majority of the dialogue and sidequests are boring as frick too. If I had seen all the content in 25-30 hours, I'd probably give it a 9/10.
Melbourne: 10.40am. 54f. overcast
Most sane post in this thread so far.
it's always been a lifelong dream of mine to be a weather forcaster and barry has made that dream come true
>Using Fahrenheit for Australian weather
It's 16C and that's the number that matters
everything after the time is made up...
I mean that does sound like typical Melbourne weather
xvi cultists eternally haunted by a made up boogeyman
I miss Episode Duscae
I always wanted to kill the fisherman at that dock elder scrolls style, 15 should've had npc murder
VII = X > VIII = IX > XII > XV >XIII => XVI
XVI isn't that good.
>MMO devs = MMO quality = Do not Play
Why does he have like 5 different names?
are you talking about 16's mc clive rosenfield?
they can't decide who has supposed to be
has just a black slate that maehiro projects who he wants clive to be in the moment even if its incongruent with the rest of the story
What the frick happened to Final Fantasy, man? I look at 1-6 and it has this fantastic, dream-like quality to it. Amano's art really elevated everything about the games, and there was an almost Western influence in the settings. It looks so godawful now and it really has put me off playing them for the most part. I'd blame FF7 but, FFX is really when Nomura's weird shit started getting out of control.
The combat's skill ceiling is just incredibly low. Maybe you can have fun with that regardless, but veterans of games like DMC and Bayonetta will not have anything substantial to sink their teeth into.
The enemy variety is very paltry as well, and there isn't anything like using the environment to your advantage either to break the pace of feeling like you're just doing the same shit over and over and over again.
I liked it for what they were going for, it has SEVERE pacing issues and you could unironically cut several arcs from the game and it would be better for it. But I really did miss some of the lighter moments that FF typically really shines in.
I don't even mean that XVI needs like a gold saucer or something. But if Clive is going to take over as leader of the hideaway, actually show that stuff, give us side activities like developing the hideaway, archery competitions (weird how there wasn't a single bow in the game by the way, considering the era of development), a drinking competition with Gav and Byron, or assemble a band to play the music from the orchestrion.
The side content really needed to be diversified from just running and talking and sometimes fighting.
One change they could’ve made to fix two issues would be to add some change in gameplay to the side quests. Have Clive drag a carriage around with ambrosia, save drowning bearers or something with torgal, knit some shit with Jill, elevate landmasses with Titan to create shelter against aetherfloods. It would fix the lack of side quest content variety and just general side content issues the game had.
MMO team
Please understand
Best since X, still a flawed game though
16 is legitimately worse than 10-2, 12, 13, 13-2, 13-3, type0, 15, 7r, sop
7R and SoP? Sure, maybe
The rest? Especially 13 and 15? Absolutely not
15 is objectively better than ff16 in every way
ff16 is more unfinished than base xv
>no party
>no dungeons
>no cities
>no elemental affinities
>no status effects
>less rpg stats than any ff ever
>no exploration
>no minigames
>no backstory for 90% of characters
>characters never talk about practically anything that occured offscreen, so it dilutes the story even moreso
>unexplained events constantly
>most events occur offscreen
>cut content with party and leviathan and environments
>stuff just happens for no reason like the events were taped toghther with ductape
>no day night cycle
>no dynamic real time lighting
>no dynamic clouds
>no volumetrics
>no dynamic weather system
>no "party" interaction
>no weapon switching
>no manual finishers
>no directional inputs
>cannot jump on anything in environment
>chocobos cannot swim
>no environmental interaction
>no pilotable vehicles
>720p on PS5, not even XV hits that low on PS4
>better
yes, slightly
>every way
nah
they're both shit
clive rosenstein subjugates the goyim, checkmate 15 cultist
clive is literally the israelite of ff
Ganker will keep pretending until the game is out on PC
The game was pretty bad. The only reason I even finished it was because I almost never leave a game unfinished and without doing most of the content. It absolutely wasn't worth $70 and absolutely not worth getting a PS5 for.
I still haven't finished, maybe I'll try again someday but I doubt it
>photo instead of screenshot
sus
It's nowhere near perfect but you morons act as if it's one of the worst games of all time.
It is.
I would take a bullet for Nomura
You would take a wiener for yoshitpiss
Mogged to death by Jack's game which actually has the job system. You know the only thing about FF worth a shit.
just like my yoshitters
One two three
FOUR FIVE
Six Seven
EIGHT NINE TEN
Eleven
Twelve
These are the only Final Fantasy games that exist. Damn shame they stopped making them.
it's the worst ff
the quickest anyone has ever forgotten about an ff
the lowest selling FF in over 30 years
16 is just trash and it tanked SEs stock
flopspoken lmao
Forspoken underperforming didn't kill SE's stocks. XVI flopping absolutely did.
He's here.
Notice how the poster count never goes past 70 in these threads. Literally the same shitposters every thread everyday since the game launched in June lmao. It’s like their stuck in a repeating cycle or seething and coping.
I liked XV enough to platinum it but it's not better than XVI. Maybe about equal. They both have glaring flaws. XIII was just bad in everything but graphics and OST.
>still using that pasta from the failed star wars fanfic writer as if it means anything
KEKAROO
>still no counter
One of the biggest issues with XVI's pacing was the fact that the game was always anchored to the Hideaway. FF games always had this sense of adventure and exploration because you were always traversing the world going from one location to the next, stopping at mystical and unique locations along the way. In XVI you're just always branching out from the Hideaway and always going back. Going home in previous FF games always felt like a special occasion, like going back to Midgar in VII, or going back to Alexandria in IX, or even Insomnia in XV, but that's lost in XVI when you spend so much time at home, and the places you do go to are mostly drab and generic.
It's solidly good. Feels like the first modern FF game where the scope of the game is huge. It's held back from being one of the best because quite honestly it would have been much better as an RPG. Level design also sucks for action stages (would be dungeons) but I blame that more on the fact that it is an action game at heart. Also there should be more opportunity to take control of Ifrit because it's the best part of the game and there really is no reason they couldn't implement it more regularly.
I enjoyed my time with the game
don't have to pretend
>no RPG elements
>combat looks flashy but is ultimately lame cooldown spam shit with stagger cancer
>no interesting locations or exploration
>game is dimly lit for nearly the entirety of the game.
>blandest main cast in the history of the series
>story is pretty shit and the actions of multiple characters make basically no sense.
>horrendous shitty fetch quests out the ass
>game is never challenging, even the bosses will never kill you unless you actively try to lose
it's the last place, shortly behind 15
Not me bro best of the series and GOTY
>mfw my tax dollars go towards funding Barry's lifestyle
>he's serious about the failed fanfic writer's argument
HOLY KEK
>still no counter
>''The town made him STOOPID'' guy
>yoSHITa tries to brag about how XVI is a complete story
>Leviathan is completely MIA and several curiosities like the door in the Dim are left completely unexplained
>uses failed fanfic writer's word as gospel
>links a clip of the stuttering moron too
this is embarrassing
>still no counter
>xvi-kun cant read
>da norf
tells us nothing about jill you moron because we learn nothing about it before finding out jill is shiva
No way it’s one of the best.
Of the 3D games, 7, 9, 10, and 12 are clearly better. 8 and 15 are arguably better. And it’s better than 13.
It’s harder to compare with the older games, but I would say 4 and 6 are clearly better than 16.
Also, FF7R is better. TBD on Rebirth.
I've seen alot of posts shitting on 8 here which suprises me
i've recently started 8 right after i finished 16 and i'm having an absolute blast, the game so far is just filled with wonder which i was expecting i'd get from 16
only finished disc 1 though, so i don't know if that's less or more damning for 16
In all fairness the game kinda goes downhill after disc 1.
So does 9
Both 8 and 9 go to shit after disc 1.
Both 8 and 9 have unfun gameplay system.
So why is only 8 shat on while everyone ignores 9’s shortcomings
9gays are fricking delusional. I'll never understand why the fanbase wanks that game off when its guilty of so much bullshit.
ff9 got the windwaker "hey people only hated it because it was a cartoony artstyle" meme defense prop up once the people who were kids when ff9 released were old enough to post on the internet
1)Spoony, the cuck feminist who defends and praises TLJ, made a video shitting on it
2)Sakaguchi said 9 was his favourite
First half of FF8 is the best, than you leave the continent…
FF8 is great the entire time, but the later discs filter morons.
It's mid-tier at best. A flashy blockbuster with no substance that no one will be talking about 5 years from now.
that was a good run, barry. the community thanks you for another delightful total thrashing of the coy. everyone give barry a round of applause
Makes me want to play FF pixels if I was honest.
It's in the shit -tier with 2, 8, 13 and 15.
xv is ludo kino
16 is trash
Lmao you're still here?
>xvi-kun still malding
the fricking cloud segway memes have more staying power than xvi has
Well we certainly aren't pretending anymore.
I've never seen a FF erased from public consciousness as fast as FF16, jesus christ what a failure.
seems comparable to FF13/15 honestly.
modern FFs just lost something
are you fricking moronic? 15 is and was huge and kept on selling, getting a ton of fan content, literal events held by fans with VAs in the game, tons of Japanese events, continued content for 3 fricking years beyond launch solely due to fan demand, it literally had the biggest launch and post launch in ff history
16 literally has the worst launch in 30 years and the worst post launch in the series
Even 13 got 13-2 directly as a result of feedback to FF13 and 13-2 SOLD MORE THAN FF16 DID TOO
>that cope
jesus
the cope from you? xv sold 2x what ff16 did in a month and kept on selling which is how it hit 10m faster than any ff
ff16 is literally selling worse than every mainline ff and multiple direct sequels
whatever you need to tell yourself anon to pretend that modern FFs aren't a dumpster fire, sure
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/fnLXFLl_4pcwfBRCrNBbuw/
This schizo is really mindbroken by ff16 kek
This guy really can't live without talking about FFXVI
the xvi cultists really are mindbroken
16 and 13 and 14 are the dumpster fires
>16 and 13 and 14 are the dumpster fires
Oh god... that explains the weirdness. You're a XV-delusional.
At first I thought it had the potential to be in the upper tiers of FFs but like most AAA stuff nowadays the good stuff is frontloaded and the game falls apart the further you get both in narrative and gameplay. I'd put it in OK tier along with patched XV. Square's bet it all on Rebirth it seems.
Just beat it 10 mins ago, it's great, not my favorite, still prefer IV, VI, and Shadowbringers. Fights are immaculate and the character writing is great (although many of the best moments are in side quests towards the end). Some of the downtime in between major story beats could have been paced better with some more compelling quests.
One of the best games this year, but I feel Armored Core VI might take it. I will play Baldur's Gate 3 next.
>he's still stumbling
Can't wait for the 7R2 meltdowns
>I stumbled across it
gets me every time kek
You respond to yourself everytime
the job system in 5 is bigger than 3s so its more ambitious than 3s
it also was the first actual snes ff they were making and its better pixel art were ambitious at the time
ff4 was a nes game spinoff they restarted and moved to snes after ff5 was already being made on snes
>the job system in 5 is bigger than 3s so its more ambitious than 3s
again, you don't know what ambitious means. obviously no point in further arguing.
FF5 was the least ambitious FF by definition.
16 is the least ambitious
5 has a party so its more ambition than 16
>5 has a party
Anon, the first four FFs had a party before it
Are you ESL?
and 16 doesn't
so anything with a party is more ambitious than ff16
it's nothing like horizon
its like xv but jankier
gladio dlc literally had that stuff when climbing ledges too
>2 likes
more likes than anyone defending ff16
anything with a party or more rpg stats or exploration mechanics or gameplay variety is more ambitious than ff16
>ambitious
In English, FF5 is the least ambitious FF by definition.
16 is the least ambitious FF, 16 has no party, no ambition.
HKmoron samegayging again
>ambitious
English
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ambitious
Yes, that's your first step. Finding the link.
>ambitious
Oh, you're ESL. You don't know what ambitious means. That at least makes sense now why you're tripping up over it.
>I stumbled across it
hkmoron samegayging again
>defending 14 and 16
yep its a yoshitpiss troony
>defending 14 and 16
Didn't defend 16, and didn't even talk about 14 directly. 14 is another modern FF.
You're the only one defending a modern FF, and pretending XV was good.
That homosexual is a pedophile mad that they didn't add children race on ff14 or some shit
>still defending 16 and 14
yoshitpiss shills keep outing themselves
Lmao he didn't even defend 14
You are just a jealous tendie who is obsessed with that mmo and the producer for not letting ff die with ff14 first version
>keeps defending 16 and 14
>b-but i le didnt!?
sure thing
your new tactic to mald at 15 is coming into ff threads shitting on ff16 and yoshitpiss to for some reason not shit on 16 or yoshitpiss but instead mald over 15
your tactics are obvious
>hkmoron on suicide watch
Oh. Barry.
Disregard. That explains the schizo posting and why you didn't make sense.
Please don't come to dd2 threads zeldagay
>coming into ff threads shitting on ff16
This was a thread that was positive about 16, though. Read the OP.
>thread begging to have it get shat on
>99% of thread is shitting on it
>moron claims he isnt defending ff16 anyway
moron
>moron
ironic
>ironic
moron
indeed
cope
You are weird and confused. I literally said modern FFs suck. Both 16 and 14 are included in modern FFs.
So is XV. You're so unhinged about pretending XV is good that you think shitting on XV means defending other FFs.
The Zeldagay is too busy doomposting dd2 now
Rebirth looks so good even pikminpedos and zeldasisters are too afraid to show up
They'll claim they always supported FF7R
DD2 threads are peaceful now because tendies are here
I don't understand schizo haters, can I get a QRD on why a zeldagay would try and shit on a Capcom game?
DD2 skipped switch and tendies have a hate boner ever since MHW and hate Capcom games getting more attention than nintendo than their threads
Interesting, thanks for explaining.
>i stumbled across it
So why did Barry think linking troony porn would be some kind of "win" in his mind?
>Are we still pretending that this isn't one of the best entries in the series?
Watch it not getting a nominee on GOTY awards on VGA this year, we have too much good games this year and Final Fantasy XVI is the first to get out for sure.
But you shat on 7r for years, tendie
7R2 is not 7R
7R2 is ffxv with a 7R skin
xvi-kun stop trying to act like anyone shitting on xvi is anoone other than other ff fans
Rebirth mogs FF15
rebirth is jankier than 15 so it cannot
How is it even jankier when it isn't even out yet?
because you can't jump yet its open world
we see the footage cloud just magnet fall animation whenever you walk off a hill or something
>7R2 is ffxv with a 7R skin
It's Horizon with a 7R skin. It looks nothing like XV.
Creators said it's like Horizon. Maps are the same style and same climbing shit like Uncharted/Horizon
It's had really great main story but I can easily see 9/5 players burn out after bahamut
Side quest being MMO tier and there are alot of them make playing this game is a chore sometimes.
Thoughts/theories on ending?
Clive is dead but they obfuscated that fact to leave the door open for DLC.
The Ultimania confirmed that he died.
Well that's good to hear. The dead vs not dead shitposting in XVI threads was getting obnoxious.
If you think about it logically, it would have been dumb for him to pass out while turning to stone on the beach, only for him to just wake up later and be totally okay but effectively missing a hand, and thus completely rob the emotional weight of witnessing Jill crying hysterically the moment she realizes Clive has died.
it'd be more dumb for the game to constantly tell clive his obsessive martyrdom is bad only to end the game with him dead and unable to live on his own terms. Dying on your own terms was cid's idea, clive expressed the importance of being able to live on your own terms as well
He did die on his own terms. He chose to free the world of magic.
He rid the land of magic and that’s why the curse couldn’t have spread further than his hand. It only started to spread from his fingers to his hand because he attempted to cast magic just as it began to fade from the world.
Merely a theory. We don't see it spread further because everything above the hand is hidden underneath clothing. We know turning to stone is a fate all bearers, including Dominants, eventually face from overusing magic. Its just as likely that he completely used up everything he had.
Clive lives you moron. He cast a spell that removes magic and stops petrification (literally stated in the Ultimania). Which conveniently saves both him, at the exact right moment, and Jill, in the long run.
His VA is also very unsubtle about the fact that he’s alive ever since they announced the dlc at PAX. Before that he was saying the usual can’t confirm or deny disclaimers.
>quoted the ultimania
>failed to acknowledge that same ultimania stated that clive died
Nice fanfic moron.
It never did. All the Ultimania does is confirm that Clive lived by spelling out that petrification cannot even progress anymore because of his own spell.
>literally denying reality
>thinking the dlc will take place after the ending when clive has been stripped of all his powers
I know XVI fans aren't the brightest but holy shit.
>literally shitposting like a deranged mongoloid and making up shit
Abo, you’ve been seething like a psycho about this game for frick knows how long. Clive living is rubbed in by everything and their mom. You were trying to write fanfics about petrification killing him before the Ultimania came out kek. But that’s literally impossible as per the conditions of his own spell. The whole point is he did save himself too in the end.
As for the dlc, I never said shit about it except for the fact that exactly after it was announced the VA started outright saying stuff like “I think Clive will come back” and posted a photo of himself with that bloody book, which garnered a very predictable reaction. Before that his attitude was very hush hush and he pretended he didn’t know or couldn’t say anything about the dlc or the ending when asked about either.
But she stopped crying when dawn occured because she knew Clive always returned to her during dawn. Hes alive
Then the dogshit ending completely invalidated the emotional weight of Jill's moment as well as Gav's somber acceptance that he's the new Cid now. The ending is unsatisfying no matter which camp you're in.
I'll completely agree that open ended endings suck. I'd be fine if the post credits scene actually gave us real confirmation towards his fate.
Every fricking Japanese game does this shit and all I want for once is a cliche epilogue ending where we find out what happens to everyone.
My hopes is that DLC actually gives us confirmation of Clive surviving.
I'd be okay with a Clive lives ending. I'd be okay with a Clive dies ending. What I'm not okay with is the vague crap we got that potentially hints at both.
I'm still salty over games like Xenoblade 3 or Danganronpa V3. Their endings can go eitherway, and even though XB3's DLC tried to answer at least one thing, it only created a million more questions. And DR fans will be arguing for years over that ending. At least the director finally wants to return to the series.
>zoomers bullying Barry on twitter now
Kek. JKmoron won
HKmoron got bullied on twitter and Dreamboum got kicked out of the ff community because everyone was shitting on FF16 too hard...
barry and max teamed up to btfo the delusional nomuragays too...
>sudden dreamboun malding
Lol, Bazztek getting bullied by all of the twittergays
Can anyone tell me what is wrong with ff14? It has rpg elements and minigames
t. Waiting for stormblood to be free to start
>even bazzy recognizes that he can't possibly win vs 7r2
Tabata is going to kill himself when he finds out that his biggest dick rider has converted.
I just find it hilarious that there are people who look back at the last 20 years of Final Fantasy and think "yup, I'm definitely willing to subject myself to more of this shit"
XV has been the only bad mainline FF of the past 20 years.
xvi*
>XVI
>Bad
Yes
There's more rpg and action combat mechanics at play in this xv clip than anything in xvi anywhere
>no counter
>sudden Dreamboum defense
hello Dreamboum still malding because you fricked off from ff after everyone shat down your throat for you defending ff16?
I'm actually HKmoron today schizo-kun.
so what youre saying is youve been seething for 20 years. kek
I don't know how you can think that, I haven't beaten the game yet but I'm around 15 hours in, and it seesaws between an amazing blend of Final Fantasy and Devil May Cry to a bargain bin PS2 JRPG with the worst side quests I've ever seen and a meaningless loot/gear system. It seriously feels like development time got cut in half or that the team was picking up the pieces of a previous abandoned build.
The side quest/some "main" quests that build off of the side quest structure are driving me crazy. Each one only nets you one of a handful of the same crafting items and gil meaning they're all the same, but more importantly each one follows one of three types: waste time running to a person(s) to press X and run back to the original quest giver, deliver items, or do some easy combat. It'd be more forgivable if it didn't feel so low budget, the camera work, lighting, and animations are so basic it feels like it'd be better to keep the default camera and not even waste time animating a MMO filler cutscene. And the side quests don't even offer interesting dialogue or stories.
It's a shame because I do like the primary stuff a lot, but it's so jarring going from feeling like playing a CG cutscene from previous games to pathetic content that'd be laughed at even in the heyday of JRPGs.
He is a tendie spamming these threads to sperg about
DD2chad here, thanks for keeping Nincels busy
DD1's combat already mogs the shit out of XVI's. Pitting DD2 against XVI is just unfair. That's what happens when you have the guy who is actually behind DMC making the game and not DMC's janitor who watched them working on the combat one time.
We already used to them ddbro
This is why I can't take them seriously
Jack's game was great
Rebirth improves over 7R
A dlc or expansion could improve 16 too
DD2 is what FF16 should have been
DD1, FFXV and DD2 are really the only games in that style.
It’s in the lower half of the ranking, but not the bottom. Better than XIII & XV at least, but can’t hold a candle to VI through X as far as pure enjoyment goes.
I think about on par as XII and X-2, I.e good enough.
No one has even played it yet. It's not on PC.
Because nobody played it since it's still in Sony jail on a dead console
>ps5
>dead console
Troon please
It's literally the worst numbered entry in the entire franchise.
Midwits will never understand the concept of soul.
16 was soulless garbage to its core
Midwits will never understand the concept of soul. 16 was soulful kino to its core.
Melbourne time: 3:20pm.
Normal non-schizo FF posting can begin in 11-12 hours (unless another anon tilts him so bad that he stays up late again)
>FFXV was ba-
So what was the actual argument "Barry" had for shitting on literally every other game in the same franchise? Just "It didn't sell as much as the game I liked"
So are you just not allowed to like a game unless they pass some kind of sales threshold?
I remember someone people called "Barry" Trying to argue that FF15 had the best and most in depth combat of any game ever, but I don't see that anymore.
I'm not caught up on my autism lore.
Enough babble.
Post OUR FUWARKING HEROES
I promise you if yoshi piss didnt make this you wouldnt see this much pushback
that's true. it's because YoshiP:
- claimed young people don't play JRPGs
- said turn based games can't be successful, only to be outsold by BG3 of all things
- is a clown who cries on stream
- deliberately dumbs down all his games because he thinks adding any kind of challenge or obstacle would scare people away because of all the FFXIV moms who suck at games
- yoship fanboys claiming it would do better than FFXV
- yoship fanboys claiming turn based is dead and you don't need RPG elements only for FFVII rebirth being praised everywhere for being so RPG -like
All these factors make it very easy to make fun of FFXVI
This. Even in XIV people are b***hing up a storm right now about how shit the post-launch content and story have been, how there are fundamental gearing and rewards structure problems, how the two minute meta has brought about far too much job homogenization, how lazy this expansion's relic has been, and how predictable and safe patches have become.
Yoshida took on the task of making XVI while also working on XIV, and not only did he fumble bigly with XVI, his lack of focus on XIV also caused that game to collapse as well.
BG3 mogged 16 badly and when persona 3 remake launched will the final nail
>jrpg gay coping about his dead genre with a a crpg
it keks me everytiem
It's literally kino, for kinosseurs with a side of gameplay. It's perfect for people who have taste. The gameplay part is in NG+ with the final fantasy and ultimaniac mode.
It showed promise at the beginning and signs that it would try something different with the story, but then it goes to shit with the unnecessary moralist crap, much like Endwalker
I also find it interesting that when 3.0 launched in ffxiv it was peak gameplay, story and elements. After that they started to dumb down the jobs and the story started to dwindle.
FF16 started development after HW, coincidence? I dont think so
Dunno why nintendies say ff is dying when the moment ff14, 16 and 7r release for switch 2 tendies will buy them in masse
>rpgs are dead
>bg3 is a big hit
Numbers talk
>yoshida wanted to revive his rpg series by stripping down the rpg elements and basing it on a series that typically sells much less than his rpg series
What was he thinking?
He was thinking?
>2.5m sales in 3 years of EA
should have just made a shitty action game. you can sell like 3m in a week lol
If it isn't turn based, it isn't even real FF. Sadly, this is a dead series.
Are we still pretending we actually played this game?
I did. I had faith in Yoshi-P. I made a mistake. I will never blindly trust again.
It really is an indictment on the review industry that not a single reviewer with a brain or spine actually posted a 2/10 or lower review that it deserved. I've never actually experienced spiritual pain like I have suffering through this repetitive miserable pile of shit with a horrendous 1/10 story and the most braindead fetch quest side quests with stories that are somehow even worse than the main questline. I truly never could have imagined a FINAL FANTASY GAME COULD BE THIS FRICKING BAD AND I PLAYED VIII AND XV AND THIS HAS ALL THE WORST QUALITIEIS OF BOTH AND THEN SOME. DEVIL MAY CRY COMBAT DESIGNER? SURE, IF YOU FORCE HIM AT COMBAT TO STRIP AWAY ALL THE THINKING AND SKILL SO THAT THE COMBAT IS PURE BUTTON MASHING HORSE SHIT WITH ZERO CHALLENGE. AND THE WORST PART IS THAT IT LOOKS LIKE A REMASTER OF A PS3 GAME BUT STILL STUTTERS WHAT THE ACTUAL FRICK THEY NEED TO FIRE THE ENTIRE ENGINEERING TEAM.
THIS IS THE WORST FRICKING GAME OF 2023 AND IT ISN'T EVEN FRICKING CLOSE. AT LEAST GOLLUM IS SHORT AND YOU CAN LAUGH AT IT BUT FFXVI IS JUST SAD PATHETIC MISERABLE SACK OF SHIT WITH NO PASSION OR THOUGHT PUT INTO IT. FRICK SQUARE THIS IS THE MOST DESERVED FLOP OF ALL TIME.
Team ninja should've made ff16
I'm not gonna stop pretending until I actually play it and find out