nope skipping this game, the fomo is gonna be insane, but lol, good luck after the 2 weeks of fomo ends and all the streamers are back to pretending like theres nothing to play
i saw enough red flags to steer clear hard, ill be playing eso and the necrom expansion
I'm unironically in full on fomo mode for Street Fighter 6, don't know how the hell that happened but I'm giving D4 a miss and going balls deep into that goofy as fighting game.
>good luck after the 2 weeks of fomo ends and all the streamers are back to pretending like theres nothing to play
why would i give a shit about that retard
>I just played Poe for the first time
How was that experience? My first time with PoE was fucking abysmal and it took me about 400 hours before enjoyment of endgame started.
>you continued playing a game for 400 hours without enjoying it?
I didn't enjoy endgame. This was over a like 7 year period keep that in mind. I enjoyed the campaign plenty of times, but always dropped the game when I hit maps.
Yeah and she’s a psycho zealot that works for an Angel-Supremacist. Her being black isn’t a central to her character at all and canonically blacks are the religious ones in the world: Paladin, Tyrael, and her.
>Tyrael
Can we talk about how absolutely fucktarded the whole 'I ripped off my wings so I am now human' thing was? Beings of light and sound don't suddenly become flesh and blood by ripping off their wings.
I unironically cancelled my pre-order when I saw how badly they fucked up the druids appearance. Its the only class that clicked and I refuse to play a fatty of any gender.
I unironically cancelled my pre-order when I saw how badly they fucked up the druids appearance. Its the only class that clicked and I refuse to play a fatty of any gender.
Notice how it’s mainly dumb uggo fat bitches asking for this shit.
There isn’t any skinny balding hunchbacked men asking for their representation.
Why are women so self absorbed
>OMG LITERALLY BUILT LIKE ME TEEHEE
Hahahahaha she's fucking deluded, the druid isn't built like her, she's unrealistically muscular and looks like she could press 100kg. This streamer thot doesn't have muscles, she's just fat and weak
All the females in the game are ugly. That's woke. Too many moron characters, that's woke. The main antagonist is a female, she has smaller boobs and all the story so far paints her as a good guy. Woke trash. The dev team have desecrated a real life church with demonic paintings, that's woke. The church is evil in the game, that's woke. Character creation default skin color is moron, woke shit.
We don't even know how the story will go. But so far everything is woke. Wouldn't surprise me if the moron church leader in the game will turn on the white angel boss because muh oppression and then join flat chested "mother" lilith.
Weird, whenthe beta was going on all I can remember was everyone posting all their fem necros, barbs and sorcs.
I'll be playing as a dude myself, but that's just me.
those are futas or futalovers, and/or muscle trannies. women don't need muscle, just big ass/breast, pretty face, bimbo lips, long hair, and bare feet or open toe heels
I'm not against women having muscle, variety is the Hispanice of life. But I think it's pretty autistic how much vidya ignores """coomerism""" aka traditional feminine beauty/fat tits
All the females in the game are ugly. That's woke. Too many moron characters, that's woke. The main antagonist is a female, she has smaller boobs and all the story so far paints her as a good guy. Woke trash. The dev team have desecrated a real life church with demonic paintings, that's woke. The church is evil in the game, that's woke. Character creation default skin color is moron, woke shit.
We don't even know how the story will go. But so far everything is woke. Wouldn't surprise me if the moron church leader in the game will turn on the white angel boss because muh oppression and then join flat chested "mother" lilith.
>The main antagonist is a female, she has smaller boobs and all the story so far paints her as a good guy.
Beating a priest to death is a good thing, yes indeed.
Diablo IIII has no genders in first place, Black folks in every gameplay/trailer, blizzard take KFC consumers as main target audience. BILLIE EILISH IN MY PABLO TRAILER I LOVE IT. Its woke garbage with cash shop being the only working feature in game, enjoy.
No.
I'm put off by all the Lilith pandering, it just feels weird and forced.
Not to mention seasonal FOMO content updates, paid battle pass, in-game shop and it's $70 for the basic bitch version.
who are you to judge what someone else is attracted to? Why are you reddit pedos such weirdos? Can't you just stay on reddit or discord? You couldn't cancel hogwarts and you failed at impacting the sales of the new zelda game. All you are doing is making people hate you more
>>im put off by hot women >Supposed to be demon of sexo >Looks like 40 year post wall roastie
Nah thanks. They knew very well what they did with this design. Maybe it pleases Bobby but not me
Honestly, I have not paid much attention to it. I do like how the female necros look though. I don't doubt it is woke, since it's 2023, so I'll wait to see more, after it releases.
Didn't see anything woke in the beta test. You can make a moron in character creation, that's about it. I don't know if they decide to put in disabled and chud dragons into later acts or updates.
unironically yes. Seasons probably wont hold me but ill enjoy it when its fresh. Moment to moment gameplay actually seems fun. Unlike every other arpg.
Yeah and then you get better gear from those stronger enemies and become strong again. This is only apparent in the beta where the players were constrained to one zone so the monsters we were fighting for 25 levels grew with us and should be less noticeable with a full and fleshed out world.
EVERYTHING FEELS THE FUCKING SAME YOU RETARD
THERE IS NO SENSE OF PROGRESSION
PEOPLE TOLD ME IM AUTISTIC FOR GRINDING SHIT BUT THIS, THIS IS TOO REPETITIVE EVEN FOR ME
Progression comes from gear and talent points. If you don't think a character with a full load out of uniques at level 20 is stronger than a level 5 char in blues you are retarded. Lots of uniques make or break a build even.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You could even build around the basic bitch act 1 legendaries we had.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
youre not going to have a full set of legendaries at level 20 because drops will be shit, spread out, and you will keep leveling because content stays up with you. There will be no way to farm out items you want without leveling until lvl 50
Leveling exists as a tutorial not as a way to make 99% of content worthless
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cool strawman, bro.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
But it's not a strawman
Most areas in D2 are totally worthless to a higher level character
Most of d3 would be totally worthless to a level 70 if not for level scaling
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The entirety of D3 is worthless specifically for that reason. You don't have to do any of the base content of the game when you can repeat the same thing ad nauseum. Just hop in a rift and do them till you're blue in the face.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The entirety of D3 is worthless specifically for that reason. You don't have to do any of the base content of the game
bounties are LITERALLY the base content of the game, level scaled so that you can do it instead of running the campaign with every character
you've spent so long playing D2 or PoE your brain is fucking slop. noone cares about your chud tantrum over level scaling, they'll just play the game if they liked the beta or they won't
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>make 99% of content worthless
One of the central themes of Diablo has always been to out level the content and to continue to raise the difficulty as your character became more powerful.
There’s a lack of progression felt. At Level 1 I can kill a skeleton in 4 hits, he can kill me in 10. At level 100 I can kill the same skeleton in 4 hits and he can still kill me in 10, but my sword makes cool purple shapes and whoosh noises, my armour glows green and I have a 5% chance on cool-down to ignore a fatal hit.
That’s if I’m lucky with loot drops, If I get unlucky then at some points in the game I take longer to kill him and he can kill me faster than a level 1 noob. What was the point of levelling again?
>proof? >I made it up haha
the other anon is right, these complaints all read like a chud throwing a tantrum
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And you sound like a whiny 10 year old.
It’s a standard issue, level scaling leads to the easier enemies never getting much easier. (Eg. Skyrims level scaling, where bears go from dying in a few hits to becoming super deadly at level 40ish because they messed up the level scaling.) - Your power fluctuates wildly and is completely inconsistent. Compare it to Prince of Persia warrior within, which had you begin shipwrecked with a stick, killing the lowest level goon took about 6 hits. As you upgraded your weapons they took less hits to kill, until you were dispatching them with 1 hit, but new enemies were introduced that took 6+ hits, maintaining the difficulty while showing how much stronger you had become.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't see the issue. Is it a power fantasy of a gay to have no thread in old areas of a game? Level scaling keeps all areas relevant, more or less.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
who gives a shit about that wow proves its a broken mechanic and it certainly doesnt belong in an arpg
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
People carrying or playing with their friends but being at different level ranges.
>proof? >I made it up haha
the other anon is right, these complaints all read like a chud throwing a tantrum
mah growing numbers! gays fall for it every time. also, cosmetics - I could never understand how can people play for fashion but there it is
level scaling is not the worst thing about it.
when i saw how sorc spells look like in D4, i laughed so fucking hard i almost shit my pants. >the sorc fireball is a .jpeg of yellow ring popping up for a second
Don't have leveling in the first place if you're going to level the monsters with you. You could just as easily collect your skills from quests/areas and have it be less retarded.
If you really want to implement leveling and level scaling, then only have the level scaling active at max where you start to grind zones.
yes i've been pleasantly surprised. i thought it'd just be d3.5 but it's more like d3.7, they tacked on a few more modern systems whereas d3 just outright disrespected what the contemporary player can handle.
i enjoy the mmo-lite elements since as a boomer i'm not looking for a full time job simulator, and pure MMOs haven't brought something new to the table in a while.
i hope poe2 and d4 can learn and rip off each other in a positive way
there are pros/cons to level scaling. the world tier/capstone system and the greater rewards it yields are the progression you're pretending does not exist
you think this is an own?
we're laughing at you. the quality of the product goes hand in hand with how woke it is you clown.
i never come to Ganker anymore since everyone is 15 but it's wild to see caricatures like this poster exist
>the main thing that gets me is the permanent level scaling. LOL. way to make leveling and exploring feel completely pointless and anti-fun.
If anything it makes exploring even better because you can go anywhere instead of being tied to lv 30 spiders in lv30 spooky forest because you are lv30 and the lv50 goblins in lv50 cave are too strong.
I agree with levelling being less satisfying if everything scales tightly along with it, but I think the issue is more that they should get rid of levels and have you progress in a different way. There being no levels (or meaning to levels) definitely isn't a problem to making exploring fun: look at the last two Zeldas, you can go anywhere and do anything and the only strict power progression that isn't just picking up nicer stuff is that you gradually have more and health and stamina to play with. You're still perfectly capable of running straight to the final boss. Constraining where you can go with levels doesn't improve exploration in my view.
Gonna wait until it's on sale, provided it doesn't turn out to be total shit. Pre-ordering or day-1 buy on Blizzard games is full retard. They're always broken as fuck with overloaded servers for at least the first week.
No surprise at all that the autist spamming Ganker with D4 hate threads is a PoE cultist
Imagine being so pathetic that you spend all your time counter shilling the competition to the game you’re addicted to but is currently so shit that you can’t bring yourself to play it instead
>open game >select your moron >6 moron characters to default >refund the $90 whatever USD it costs >buy poe MTX, not because i want it but because it makes morons mad.
time idk
money probably like 150-200 since 2012.
as dogshit as PoE has become. it still manages to be better than this diablo garbage and its moron pandering. lmao
I chose to give GGG money, you can easily play poe with 20-30 shekels. and if you dont care to map then you dont even have to pay.
these moron lovers after their gay OW2 flopped come to revive another beloved franchise only to fill it with morons and MMO MECHANICS lmfao. what a joke company and joke game made by chud moron lovers.
I will watch hamsters being mad when this game crashes on release, and turns out being boring and repititive as fuck, and riddled with shop ads.
The game is the most obvious lazy casghrab in the videogame history, at this point we will need to create "Point at D4 buyers and laugh" threads en masse, because thats how stupid those buyers are.
I'll have the same laugh again when PoE 2 flops hard. People will be so mad realising it's the same game, only with a new tutorial zone that wastes double the time.
I pre-ordered the Ultimate Edition and have all the beta unlocks, linked my twitch for the mount and will be getting the new KFC items. My Body Is Ready.
I mean I would probably do it if it was a tie in for St. Jude month and it was for donating to that through their stream but not if it's just straight subbing to a streamer.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
oh no, there is a list of the ones you can adopt, they didn't release it yet. they have to be approved blizzard streamers or some shit like that.
HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
No, anon. Not for subbing.
For donating subs.
You don't get the sub.
You give the sub to someone else in the chat for the streamer. And it's not just one sub either, it's multiples.
fuckin lol
I'll stick with a normal looking horse, thanks
the only way I'd ever buy a mount in this game is if it was one of the war beasts from Act 5 of D2
>My hands are shaking as I type this, y-you think you have the upper hand? I own this place! My mtx is save in PoE! Come back and admire my league mtx!!
woke is putting morons and trannies in your game to try and get ESG rating and sympathy bux from your favorite games journolist outpost, trying to appear as the white savior of whatever it is you're shilling while doing absolutely nothing to actually help anyone or provide a decent service.
>open fridge >moron removed from syrup bottle because le racism??
>turn on tv >mixed race moron commercials placed between mixed race moron tv programming
no I just have eyes.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>>load up game >>6 morons
you know it's random right? or are you just crying about a cherry picked screenshot to fit your narrative like a 14 year old socialist would? >the rest of your schizopost
nothing to do with diablo 4. you've lost the culture war, your brain is broken, stay mad, and keep crying
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
How hard did PoE babbys got filtered that they have to rail against the game 24/7? Or are they living in outright terror that their game won't make it once D4 releases? It's a constant barrage of rage and cope posts that seems to never end.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
finished my work for the day and i see retards talking about Diablo Immoral P2
PoE is in a terrible state, but id rather play that than give this moron loving company a dime. lmao.
>>load up game >>6 morons
you know it's random right? or are you just crying about a cherry picked screenshot to fit your narrative like a 14 year old socialist would? >the rest of your schizopost
nothing to do with diablo 4. you've lost the culture war, your brain is broken, stay mad, and keep crying
the game literally loads up with 6 morons on your screen. I didnt look up shit.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Region specific
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
sorry moron population here is only 15% not 100%
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why don't you tell us where you are located at, and we can judge ourselves?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you're buying a nu-blizzard game, you're a retarded gay
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
How many supporter packs and 40/40 leagues are on the line for you?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Just make them white? You do know you can do that right? By your logic this makes the game based and anti-woke right?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I wonder why this never got a response
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
not that anon, but, It's because your take is totally retard, how can anon put white people on his syrup, anyway, keep giving your money to blizzard, i know if we insult the company, you will take it personal
Nope. Nu-blizz is incompetent, evil, or both. If the game is good 6 months after it comes out I'll buy it for xmas or something. It's a grind game, who needs to play on launch?
I played D3 open beta 13 years ago and I could tell it was shit.
I played OW open beta I thought it was decent.
I played D4 Open Beta and I actually liked it but Blizzard is asking me to ignore 13 years of blunders and bad decisions.
I feel too old and the game is much too expensive for something I would play occasionally and I am just waiting for the shoe to drop, Blizzard will screw this up, no?
Reminder that anyone saying shit like "hehe I'm gonna buy a 70 dollar + battlepass AAA product just to make a bunch of letters on my screen mad :)" is a retard and probably Twitter/Reddit user
Sure. Had an i7-3770k, r9 290, 8GB ram and some 7200rpm HDD build from over a decade ago that I ditched and got a new build going for D4, now I've got an i7-12700k, rx 7900 xt, 64GB ram and a couple of nvme drives, so I'd say I'm pretty ready.
>WE'RE L-LAUGHING AT YOU THO!!!
no one cares, people playing this game for fun and enjoying getting their loot itch in will never care about these chud tantrum threads- only made to commiserate because there is nothing better for you to do, you don't even play games. we can tell you don't play games as you never even played the beta and it was free
>live service >95% of player base quit after "story" >mtx sales plummet after season 1 >left with an "open world" with not much purpose >only players remain are fomo ridden retards doing dailies for battlepass >Isometric Anthem
And then they release a story expansion for 40 bucks and everyone comes back to play it. It's obvious they're eyeballing the Destiny 2 model. Hey, I'll play that. I'm easily amused, if you give me things to kill, loot, and a passable story, I'll play that shit
Could have also been offline and like Borderlands 2, but can't change that now.
Would have been such an easy goodwill farm instead of coming off like a cash grab
>Could have also been offline
It really couldn't have. Blizzard hasn't made a new game offline in over a decade. The only things that can be played offline are remasters of Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, and Starcraft, and you know those aren't always online because they're too stupid to know how to implement always online into old code and too lazy to write new code.
I'm buying the game but it will be a bit fucking rich if they pull shit shit. Hook people in with the battlepasses + cosmetic mtx, fine i dont give a fuck. But that should be enough to ensure more content.
>people are leaving our game and our bottom line grows smaller >I know, let's add more microtransactions to make up for lost $$$! >more people leave >add even more microtransactions! >more fed up people leave >now we REALLY have to divert more of your manpower into making paid cosmetics! >and so on
Why is every gaming company retarded?
Extracting as much money as possible for the top/publisher and their shareholders is more important than a functioning and engaging game. Everything is optimised toward profit. I wish there were more buy2play multiplayer arpgs out there.
Remember to tune in to your favorite Twitch streamer for !DROPS
Eat your KFC for exclusive items
Pay a $30 dollar premium for 4 days of early access
Grind out that Battlepass because all the shiny armor is hidden behind it!
Anyone who doesn't like it is just a poorfag
No. I always enjoyed those kinds of games but only when they're offline and I can play at my own pace without missing any of the content.
I don't like when devs are trying to make me feel like a second class gamer because I don't want to invest an enormous amount of time and money in a single video game.
>What are you missing out on?
We still don't know to what extend but a lot of skins and varied rewards.
I mean, a lot of people already permanently missed a skin for not spending hours playing the beta-test for the game on a week-end. It doesn't really bode well.
> Who care it's only skins ?
Is something a lot of people will say but not having access to a skin is not having access to a part of the content.
I perfectly understand the concept of rewards but I will never be OK with time limited events with rewards.
>So you're just autistic like that
Probably >and easily baited by FOMO.
At least I made the decision to not play the game so I'll not be irritated by that and I'll not complain about it for years. You can't be baited if you ignore the bait because you recognize it as a bait. Buying and playing D4 is accepting the bait or not having access to as much content as people who gobble those baits.
The devs don't want people who don't gooble those baits and I'm pretty sure they'll do all they can to make things worse for people like me who bought the game like not getting access to a lot of QOL things.
"Play your way" - Unless you pick druid, then you play as a 500lbs strongman.
This game is already destined for complete failure because of one simple reason;
Diablo 4 is banned in china, blizzard is banned in china. There goes 80% of their revenue. By the time they get Diablo 4, 2024/25, they will already be aware of how shit the game is and PoE 2 will be out by then.
Definitely depends how my internet connection in Portugal turns out. I'll be innawoods near Porto for about 3 months, no point in getting the game if I can't play.
Kick and tackle barbarian was shioads of fun, despite the game experience being an absolute jankfest
Imagine defending enemy scaling based on player stats/levels
literally the worst design decision you can make in a video game and it's a typical Blizzard/WoW design choice because it exists in literally all of their games
>enter fields of hatred >stumble upon a group of players from the same clan >pop my ultimate skill >kill 3 people in quick succession >kill a 4th as he rushes in to revive his friends >get play of the game
I love them.
i canceled my pre-order after playing the beta.
ive never been so bored out of my mind playing a slasher game.
i simply didnt have fun at all.
not even for a minute.
i pity the people who think this is good, in any way. >like 5 spells per class >graphics worse than D2R >no music >"i need 5 turds from monsters X" secondary quests
this is Lost Ark for 70-100$ with an additional 10-15$ season pass, depending if you want the standard or the super-goy season pass edition.
>this is Lost Ark for 70-100$ with an additional 10-15$ season pass
I levelled lost ark to the level cap and the experience was terribly dull. It was nothing but walking from one quest point to the next and every single enemy died with just glancing at them.
Diablo 4 on the other hand required me to actually engage with the combat mechanics, especially vs the mobs that weren't level scaled.
>Diablo 4 on the other hand required me to actually engage with the combat mechanics
Plenty of better games let you do that, don't have to blow $70 for that.
>Plenty of better games let you do that, don't have to blow $70 for that.
I'll be frank with you, I played most of them within the genre of loot focused games and either enjoyed them thoroughly or drooped them for various reasons. I am open to alternative recommendations though, so give it a shot.
you stood there and wacked at shit until you could use your bigger skill on cooldown or generated enough resources to use something that did damage. There were exactly two mobs in the entire beta that required any sort of thought on the player - den mother, and butcher. Everything else could be completely ignored.
I was playing a kick and tackle barbarian in beta because kick had two charges and tackle was fairly short a typical encounter would go like frenzy for 5 seconds to get rage capped, kick enemies into wall, double slice for 4 seconds, tackle, double slice for 4 seconds, kick for another 4 seconds of stun. At which point most things were dead. The positioning to ram enemies into walls was very unique and engaging.
Playing the mini game of keeping berserk up in between was just the cherry on top. This was in the level 30 zone with the vampires btw which I cleared by myself, boss included.
The game loses a lot of fun factor when enemies die too quickly, but I.am hopeful for endgame.
based. I was playing bleed barb, just ran around flaying morons with my sword and watching them explode, leaping around slashing and running, it was awesome and engaging in a way poe/d2 will never EVER be
you stood there and wacked at shit until you could use your bigger skill on cooldown or generated enough resources to use something that did damage. There were exactly two mobs in the entire beta that required any sort of thought on the player - den mother, and butcher. Everything else could be completely ignored.
Unironically yes. It's honestly been a lot of years since I felt like I just genuinely want to play a game. That's why I inevitably bought ultimate and took a week off work, and I will be having fun the entire time.
made what up? >teleport has a 11 sec cooldown
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH >flame shield >active for 1 sec >20 sec cooldown >frost nova >30 sec cooldown
hahahahahahaha
>In the full game, you can get them to rank 18 which will dramatically reduce cooldowns.
Wrong. Level 5 skill is 18% cooldown reduction. Level 18 is 38%. And realistically you won't get over lvl 10.
>WOW super cool demons! I love demons and evil shit and blood!
>Holy Moly, a satanic sigil!!!!!!
>wowzers I just unlocked the level 40 blood curse spell for plus three damage!!!!!
>Gadzooks, pentagrams and satanic imagery, my favorite!
The best part of Diablo iv is that players who “die suddenly” while paying will be able to continue the game forever in the afterlife.
Awwww cool!
Blizzard desecrated a church with demonic images!!!!
https://www.pcgamer.com/blizzard-filled-a-deconsecrated-french-church-with-diablo-4-murals/
This is like how I desecrate my pants while I play the bideogames!!!!
Huh-huh, I wish I could smear my shit all over a church, that would be so cool!!!!!
I wish I could have sex with a demon in a church to get back at god for not letting me get laid.
I have a hard time believing schizos like this still exist in 2023. How can you be so indoctrinated with modern access to education ? I guess it explains all the retarded conspiracy theories.
It's quite entertaining to witness though.
>dont fall for corporate shlock and fomo advertisement
how is this indoctrination? Indoctrinated by whom you fucking retard? who's behind the scenes profiting off of people not buying garbage products?
first thing i noticed is the lack of music, then it hit me that the gameplay is just dogshit, mostly due to all the cooldowns. >(muh primary, muh secondary and muh other spells).
fuck off, game, i dont want your motherfucking "use primary to get mana to use secondary once/twice" bullshit.
>teleport >1 hour cooldown >flame shield, its active 2 seconds >it has 90 hours cooldown >frost nova >50 hour cooldown
hey diablo 4.
can you FUCK OFF and let me have fun? >no
uninstall it is, then.
ill just start up D2R and zip around with 0 cooldown teleport and spam 9000 motherfucking lightning novas (doesnt even exist in D4) because its FUCKING FUN.
the only game that still makes money for them is WoW so guess what they turned diablo into WoW thats why your no getting raids and other people interrupting you its also why alot of streamers say they like it
they just moved there wow addicts over slightly to another game
Oh come on play our diablo 3,5 the Immortal game with copy pasted wow spell system and storyline (Nathanos and sylvanas romance is back! :3). I'm sure you would love to buy some cosmetics in our in-game store, just give it a shot. All customers are satisfied according to our numbers.
it was more a test to see how many people dropped the game after the first beta test.
considering how empty the open world was in the server slam, it doesnt look good at all for nu-blizz.
i wonder how the microsoft aquisition will look like if D4 flops.
>remember diablo 3 launch >removal of LAN, shitty servers, login queues, auction house >stayed away from it >blizzard had such a fuckhuge marketing campaign even in my post-soviet shithole there were huge events >have to relive this shit again >people will see the issues from a mile away and goyim will still buy it
At this point this company lives on brand recognition and millions in marketing.
Doesn't matter how bad the games get or what the company fucks up.
Man it must be hard being a rightoid gamer. Always seething about developers not catering to your shit politics.
Just look at this place. Nonstop seething 24/7.
>Russians will, crack it like they cracked wc reforged, d2r and d3
This might sound retarded but I'd rather download the cracked version to have a nice no-online no lag offline playthrough once.
...are they really promoting their game with Billie Ellish of all people?
Because nothing makes me think Diablo than some sad zoomer girl singing about a breakup with her girlfriend.
I played the beta and thought it was fun, but holy god 70 euros plus battle pas PLUS cass shop?
Are you fucking kidding me? No way in hell I'd spend that kind of money on a videogame, let alone one by blizzard.
But hey if you're willing to be milked like a cow, more power to you.
>I played the beta and thought it was fun
i thought it was anti-fun.
to such a horrible extent, it felt like they purposelly went out of their way to make everything as un-fun and boring as possible.
its not just a bad diablo game, its the worst hack&slash i ever played.
Sure, because generally speaking, older audience tend to be more intelligent, or at the very least not as impatient.
Zoomers that are raised online have no self controll whatsoever, and they swallow any shit that is fed to them and then get supriced when the taste is off. >fomo
Literally only works on children and adults with an underdeveloped brain.
what the fuck is a fomo?
i never saw it written anywhere before, ever, but in the last week theres fomo fomo fomo fomo fomo fomo.
what the fuck is a fomo?
look how much money star citizen made and is still making and it's pathetically managed. purely built on the dreams of old men. we joked about it at the time but a significant portion of the people who spent loads of money on star citizen will either be dead or unable to play the game by the time it is anywhere close to what was promised.
So there's a game I played when i was a very young kid called Dragonrealms. It was a paid subscription MUD, usually had about 1000-2000 players on at any given time. This was in the early 90s on AOL when MUDs were all the rage and you even had pay per minute MUDs. The company that made it also had another MUD, Gemstone, which was even older, I think it debuted in 1985.
It's still around and getting active development. Most of the players have been playing it that whole time or are veterans who came back after realizing MMOs suck now.
The problem is, everyone keeps fucking dying, in real life. Their target audience was in their 20s and 30s FORTY YEARS AGO.
Oh they're all long dead I think. The company got bought by a Chinese mobile game company like 15 years ago and they just rotate through a mostly volunteer staff.
It depends how hard they monetize it. If they keep the cash shop confined to cosmetic items only (which I very much doubt), then I might give it a shot.
In D1, classes DID NOT MATTER. They only determined your player model, voice, starting stats, and natural stat cap. Everything else was determined by your gear and level up choices.
So yes, D2 was a downgrade in that not every power was available to every class.
>In D1, classes DID NOT MATTER.
they mattered.
attack speed with weapons was different.
health/mana each level up was different.
top stats were different (mage was 45 str top, and 250 magic top)
That's just numbers though. Gear could get around the stat caps, so you could have a greatsword swinging sorcerer if you wanted, you just needed to find enough strength bonuses. I had like 175 magic on my warrior at one point, I think.
After D1 you can't, like, put paladin auras on your barbarian, leap into crowds, and cast frost nova to immobilize them in your aura.
If you don't buy this, day 1, you're killing Diablo for good. You want to live in a world like that? Look, it's your money, but I'm just saying, Invest in your interests, anon.
hahahah!!
I liked your poast. 🙂
But ! I am of Ganker posting age!!
I am also wondering why you made that statement in the first place! I simply poked fun at an always online videogame and the fraud that comes with it!
Shill!?!? Let's hope not . . . Nya!
Didn't they say that their battle pass was a tenner? I'm speculating and waiting for people to post the game's shop. If it's a tenner, you can buy the cheapest and upgrade. The only thing you'd be missing out is the four days you'd play early.
you think this is funny, but D2R exceeds D4 in every aspect. >better graphics >better sound >has music >more spells/skills >doent have 10 hour cooldowns on literally fucking everything
im trying to think what D4 does better than D2R but nothing comes to mind.
Such a big offender to not have an Amazon dedicated to bows, crossbows and javelins and spears. Rogue is too much focused on single target damage, even with ranged attacks.
>mounted combat
but only once a day, its on a cooldown.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>make shit up
sad
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
wanna bet its gonna be on a cooldown.
>i just told you it does
Proof of that claim?
>Proof of that claim?
here:
you think this is funny, but D2R exceeds D4 in every aspect. >better graphics >better sound >has music >more spells/skills >doent have 10 hour cooldowns on literally fucking everything
im trying to think what D4 does better than D2R but nothing comes to mind.
>better graphics >better sound >has music >more spells/skills >doent have 10 hour cooldowns on literally fucking everything
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>here:
that's your opinion
ROTFLMMFAOWTFBBQ
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>source : dude trust me
>source: beta
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
yeah me to, you must have been on the console version
LMMFAO
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i played the beta on both pc and console and it had the same lack of music, the same spells and the same shitty graphics.
the pc version looked much better, but still trash.
I remember this one time, there was a thread like this and the kid cried and cried because no one would give him the ripped music from D4
i laffed and laffed and laffed >lol
that is me laffing again
I can't imagine anyone bothered to rip anything of the game, let alone datamined for anything else than for what might come to the mtx shop. The game is about to release in two weeks.
The game will have music, just as the previous games did. Will it be as iconic as entering tristram or the rogue encampment? Don't think so.
>The game will have music, just as the previous games did.
no it wont.
D3 already barely had any music in it at all (and whatever music there was, it was shit), and D4, we can all easily say, will have no music.
the whole damn game makes it look like it was in development for 10 minutes, and music takes time to compose.
>zoomers when they can't spam teleport and chug mana potions and instead must manage their resources wisely
I-IS THAT A COOLDOWN?! 10 SECONDS IS LIKE LONGER THAN MY TIKTOKS!!!
CDs where introduced in Diablo 3 so your attempt to blame it on zoomers is fucking stupid. Also that's why D2 is way more fun, no cooldowns, spam whatever skills your build have.
The reason is that when D3 released gaming was already mainstream and little timmy could play on his ps3 if he wanted.
You don't remember the shitshow that was the real money auction house in D3 release because nowadays people are busy rising their gear score repeating rifts ad nauseum.
I played D2 back in the day and picked it up again when Remastered. I know is a hard pill to swallow but everyone that has a different opinion than you isn't a zoomer.
Wait and see how D4 is not going to be near as popular as D3 or D2, you delusional blizzdrone.
I personally dislike D3, I am more of a D2 fan. I was just talking about its popularity which is not related to the quality of the game. That game sold 30 million copies and I bet my ass Nu blizz is not going to sell even half of that with this battlepass diablo shit.
I'm fine with having different opinions but there hasn't been an honest one posted yet.
Cooldowns are another resource to manage and they force the player to think about their play instead of being able to spam any ability. Mana management in D2 is way to do it, but it isn't the only way.
>D4 entire gameplay is left clicking worthless signature spell 20 times, to get mana and right click 1-2 times to use the secondary, and you get to press a button once every 10 hours to use another spell.
yes anon das right i would rather zoom zoom boom boom all across the motherfucking map while having fun.
>NO NO NO NO YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE FUN
too bad, im zoom zooming and boom booming across the map in D2R as we speak.
they will
the point is that if other people stop playing PoE there’ll be noone left to scam in trades or see their own MTX and their favorite game starts to die
which is why they are desperately shilling PoE and shittalking D4. they don’t care whether D4 is good or not, they never did
>They like the idea more than the game itself and will never give any a shot.
Nailed it. PoE players overwhelmingly don't even like PoE, they like the idea of Poe, or they like the idea of themselves being an "elite" gamer playing a "complex" game, but they don't really like Poe or arpgs at all
>d4 fanboys stop having a discussion and just talk amongst themselves about "muh poe" instead of addressing the negative sentiment around their game
lol you blizzdrones are pathetic. First to bring up poe, and won't shut up about it. It's all you can do to ignore the problems of d4, just blame it on the boogeyman
why talk when you could just keep sucking blizz dick gay? >thread asks open ended question about game >people answer: no >WTF AHHHHH YOU CANT SAY THAT AHHHH ONLY POSITIVE THINGS IN MY D4 SAFE SPAACCCCCCEEEEE!!!
it's a bit hard not to get tired of PoE autists because they make this same thread multiple times a day. totally not in a panic about D4
and everyone's tired of arguing with you about your autistic obsessions about D4 design choices because most of what you say about D4 is obvious bullshit and hyperbole
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
cooldowns, level scaling, pigeon holed classes, and boring skills are absolutely not hyperbole
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
yes they are incel
go play whatever other game you find enjoyable, it will help you cope with not having sex
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>using roasty culture language unironically
lol
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
the roasties are right to make fun of and marginalize you
you're pathetic lol
cooldowns is peak zoomer gameplay though. Its the exact kind of shit retards and design failures implement into games because they can't into good game design. Name one game from early gaming era that used cooldowns
whats to keep track of? The game lets me know when i can use them!
this isnt the 90's. games changed and people want different things.
But none of the old games are any good?
So why would you copy boomer garbage
Cooldowns are far superior and are why d3 has the best combat in arpgs
>admitting you are zoomers
your generation is pathetic. Fag worship. Cooldowns in video games. Being afraid of words. Having no testosterone. Your parents failed you and I'm sorry
>Be boomer >Be fully grown adult >Have a meltdown on the internet over a children's toy >Crying irl because the game won't let you spam one single skill like a retard for 10k hours >Accuse other generations of being pathetic
Kek, kys manchild gay, you never made it, and you never will. Maybe focus on raising your wife's black son and your switch.
games shouldnt decide when to do things. Players should decide when to do thing. If you have to wait around to engage enemies because you need to use a cooldown, it artificially slows down gameplay. if you DONT need to wait, then what is the point of having the skill in the first place? Things like snares on cooldown are only impactful if you actually NEED to snare sometihng. If you can kill them without it, it served no purpose. If you can only use it so often and you NEED it, then you have to wait. It's bad design
>buy our new expansion and unlock 10 new levels and new items!
people going in and expecting a one time purchase of 70$ are going to get blindsided hard
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This is the most HEY REMEMBER DIABLO, REMEMBER DIABLO YOU PASTY WHITE CUNT GIVE ME $1000 scheme ever.
cooldowns literally saved the diablo franchise. DIII revived a dead game and then Immortal immortalized it. Now DIV will make it even better with epic loot and better looking characters.
>DIII revived a dead game
moron you must have a short memory because the initial launch of D3 was such a disaster they had to remove their auction house bullshit and basically rekey the entire fucking game with their expansion pack.
And even since then it's devolved into mega trillions of damage per second
it's an ok action RPG, but a complete shit Diablo game
D3 ruined the franchise for good, now D4 is going to kill it off
>And even since then it's devolved into mega trillions of damage per second
it's always funny seeing this brought up as a con but no one can argue against it. it's not a problem. big numbers scare mutts I guess
Nah that screenshot is from Diablo 4. It looks worse than immortal for some reason. I dont get how retards still get excited for this shit. I mean just listen to this https://streamable.com/5kdzjb .
Yeah I thought the beta was good, the skills feel good to use, there are a few good builds per class, and the armors look cool, pretty much all I ask for in an arpg like game. People are just bitching because ARPG fans are the worst fans in the entire industry besides maybe MMO fans. It's impossible to please them. >T. 6k+ hours in poe and 3k+ in grim dawn and who knows what the fuck else in TQ and d2/3
I share the same sentiment. I suspect PoE fags to behind all this seehing, as they are addicted to their game and not really fans of the genre. They see their casino threatened and are in constant ass pain over it, the state of their game, rivaling games and so on. Years of indoctrination of your bog standard mantras gave them brain damage and turned the game into a part of their personality. The audience never being satisfied but crying for alternatives reminds me of arena FPS fags, or full loot mmo PvP fags. They like the idea more than the game itself and will never give any a shot. What you read here are copes and excuses to not try things out.
I'll be glad that there is another entry to the genre.
>They like the idea more than the game itself and will never give any a shot.
Nailed it. PoE players overwhelmingly don't even like PoE, they like the idea of Poe, or they like the idea of themselves being an "elite" gamer playing a "complex" game, but they don't really like Poe or arpgs at all
It's not even Poe fags, its just people so mind broken by blizzard that they can't have any fun with anything they do and don't want you to either, it's some incel energy for sure
you can't make me, there are millions just like me. I'll spend my money where I want, how i want and on what i want. also, i'll visit any fucking board i like. I bought a Ganker pass.
bye-bye poorman >lol
that is me laughing at you
it was funny and then it got real. like i had doubts but the D4 paywall really, really exposed them. well, they exposed themselves because of it and being poor.
it was funny and then it got real. like i had doubts but the D4 paywall really, really exposed them. well, they exposed themselves because of it and being poor.
It’s really weird. I’ve noticed that third worlders also REALLY like posting about the horn trinket. I’m assuming they’re mad that they can’t afford the early access or battlepass or whatever.
Wait for the next thread to pop up, then post about how you can’t wait to play early, you’ve got the ultimate edition, and the horn. I guarantee it’ll cause asshurt in at least one ESL.
im trying to imagine D2, but with cooldowns: >i get out of the rogue camp >cast teleport >7 hours cooldown >time to run, then >cast frost nova >5 hours cooldown >eh.... >cast blizzard >only 60 minutes cooldown, maybe i will get to use it again before i go to bed >cast frozen orb, but only 2 times >i have to left click my worthless signature spell 30 times to use my frozen orb again >only 59 more minutes before i can cast blizzard again
I played the beta and it felt like a slog with pretty graphics. The art style is nice. I just don't want to walk back and forth back and forth back and forth. Ride back and forth. Teleport back and forth. That and Diablo 2 still exists. I'd rather play through that again if I get bored.
Played the beta of diablo 4, got the horn too. Game seems like it would be fun so I'll pick it up. It's cross-platform too so I can play with my buddies at work who all own different systems. Like 7 of us are grabbing it and we're going to make a clan.
It looks very well made and very boring. I'll reserve final judgement until we see the endgame, but given all the "information" they've given out so far about the major endgame systems - it's not looking too promising.
I promised myself I would never give blizzard money after the release of diablo 3 but I've been thinking about it since I tried the server slam. It wasn't amazing but it kept me entertained for a solid weekend.
Then I looked at the different editions and realized there's 3 different battle passes, and seasons and other timed garbage. Even though I dont care much about cosmetics it's just a huge red flag in how they approach the design of the whole thing. I cant be assed with games that have daily chores, I'm too old for this shit.
Nope, it felt like a MMO to me. But it reignited my will to play D3 and specially D2. I'll buy that pack with the expansions for D3 and D2R and play both.
I'm replaying D3 and it's so different from what it used to be, the game was really unbalaced on hell mode and you needed to finish the game multiple times with multiple characters to reach the higher levels, now, you can choose the difficult you wish to start, which was great in my opinion.
You can level up pretty fast too, I was level 60 starting on Hell by the mid of the second chapter. If you play well the game will be nice to you.
Before it was so hard and difficult that you'd die all the time, without any chance to grind on higher levels.
>felt like an MMO
I felt the same thing when I logged into D2 with a bunch of other players running around killing shit.
looks like D4 is keeping up the tradition.
>I felt the same thing when I logged into D2 with a bunch of other players running around killing shit. looks like D4 is keeping up the tradition.
Yeah because D2 is mandatory open world where you just run into people running some generic quest/event all the time
>mandatory
is the only word that doesn't apply to D2, and even, doesn't matter since everyone played multiplayer and did the same generic quests over and over anyway.
it was an MMO with one extra step.
D3 is absolutely garbage dude. You idiots all try and say the exact same thing, that's how everyone knows your an intern so you can stop with the, d3 used to be bad but its good now bullshit. It's still terrible.
we all know there is no way this game will be better than mediocre with pay2win creeping in after some months as long as kotick and his bootlickers are in power
Why are Blizzdrones so retarded?
They'll buy this shit up like they do everything Blizzard plops out then spend the next six years coping about why it sucks.
Then they'll do it all over again with renewed hope.
nope skipping this game, the fomo is gonna be insane, but lol, good luck after the 2 weeks of fomo ends and all the streamers are back to pretending like theres nothing to play
i saw enough red flags to steer clear hard, ill be playing eso and the necrom expansion
>ill be playing eso
Come on man, you could have at least named a title that isn't garbage.
Maybe naming a garbage game was the point. actiblizz shit is worse than garbage.
I'm unironically in full on fomo mode for Street Fighter 6, don't know how the hell that happened but I'm giving D4 a miss and going balls deep into that goofy as fighting game.
>good luck after the 2 weeks of fomo ends and all the streamers are back to pretending like theres nothing to play
why would i give a shit about that retard
Yeah, this and Armored Core are pretty much the only new games I'm bothering with for the rest of the year.
I just played Poe for the first time so I'm looking forward to comparing it to D4
>I just played Poe for the first time
How was that experience? My first time with PoE was fucking abysmal and it took me about 400 hours before enjoyment of endgame started.
you continued playing a game for 400 hours without enjoying it?
>you continued playing a game for 400 hours without enjoying it?
I didn't enjoy endgame. This was over a like 7 year period keep that in mind. I enjoyed the campaign plenty of times, but always dropped the game when I hit maps.
>caring about diablo snore or any blizzard slop
No evidence at all that it's woke, tortanic tard.
The leader of the church is a black woman
Yeah and she’s a psycho zealot that works for an Angel-Supremacist. Her being black isn’t a central to her character at all and canonically blacks are the religious ones in the world: Paladin, Tyrael, and her.
>Tyrael
Can we talk about how absolutely fucktarded the whole 'I ripped off my wings so I am now human' thing was? Beings of light and sound don't suddenly become flesh and blood by ripping off their wings.
my brother in Christ, you can play as a guy who rips the very bones out of his enemies and wears them as armor. its a fucking video game
It's fucking stupid from a lore standpoint, not a realism standpoint
paladin was a goat fucker not a moron. d2r redesign is noncanon.
>paladin was a goat fucker not a moron.
ok anon
he was fucking retardo
He looks pretty black in that concept art
then youre being facetious
because I think the moron looks like a moron?
>Anons now think this doesn't qualify as black
that's a moron
saracens are not morons
diablo iii is moron
Can't believe Blizzard went back in time and ruined D1 and D2 all for their woke agenda.
No hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits, it's the very definition of woke trash
I unironically cancelled my pre-order when I saw how badly they fucked up the druids appearance. Its the only class that clicked and I refuse to play a fatty of any gender.
Stop hiding your coomerism behind anti wokeness
>coomerism
I'd settle for something that doesn't make me wince in disgust. Let your blizzard masters know consoomer shill
But theres nothing more anti woke than coomerkino
Notice how it’s mainly dumb uggo fat bitches asking for this shit.
There isn’t any skinny balding hunchbacked men asking for their representation.
Why are women so self absorbed
>OMG LITERALLY BUILT LIKE ME TEEHEE
Hahahahaha she's fucking deluded, the druid isn't built like her, she's unrealistically muscular and looks like she could press 100kg. This streamer thot doesn't have muscles, she's just fat and weak
>mfw I'm making a druid because them being fat is funny to me
I pity zoomers who are obsessed with politics and can't enjoy anything anymore.
Weird, whenthe beta was going on all I can remember was everyone posting all their fem necros, barbs and sorcs.
I'll be playing as a dude myself, but that's just me.
those are futas or futalovers, and/or muscle trannies. women don't need muscle, just big ass/breast, pretty face, bimbo lips, long hair, and bare feet or open toe heels
I'm not against women having muscle, variety is the Hispanice of life. But I think it's pretty autistic how much vidya ignores """coomerism""" aka traditional feminine beauty/fat tits
D3's succubus design was so weird. What were they thinking when they decided on literal hair wings?
I'm right there with you man, no idea what the artists were thinking... looks like some ff7 wacky shit
Oh so you're one of those people. Ok.
All the females in the game are ugly. That's woke. Too many moron characters, that's woke. The main antagonist is a female, she has smaller boobs and all the story so far paints her as a good guy. Woke trash. The dev team have desecrated a real life church with demonic paintings, that's woke. The church is evil in the game, that's woke. Character creation default skin color is moron, woke shit.
We don't even know how the story will go. But so far everything is woke. Wouldn't surprise me if the moron church leader in the game will turn on the white angel boss because muh oppression and then join flat chested "mother" lilith.
>The main antagonist is a female, she has smaller boobs and all the story so far paints her as a good guy.
Beating a priest to death is a good thing, yes indeed.
Diablo IIII has no genders in first place, Black folks in every gameplay/trailer, blizzard take KFC consumers as main target audience. BILLIE EILISH IN MY PABLO TRAILER I LOVE IT. Its woke garbage with cash shop being the only working feature in game, enjoy.
if a chud gets hanged in a forrest, does anyone clap? The game is full of woke shit, you retard.
No.
I'm put off by all the Lilith pandering, it just feels weird and forced.
Not to mention seasonal FOMO content updates, paid battle pass, in-game shop and it's $70 for the basic bitch version.
i already preordered it
>im put off by hot women
fag
Lilith isn't hot and I'm not a coom brained retard.
are her elbows too pointy for you?
who are you to judge what someone else is attracted to? Why are you reddit pedos such weirdos? Can't you just stay on reddit or discord? You couldn't cancel hogwarts and you failed at impacting the sales of the new zelda game. All you are doing is making people hate you more
>hot
good b8
>>im put off by hot women
>Supposed to be demon of sexo
>Looks like 40 year post wall roastie
Nah thanks. They knew very well what they did with this design. Maybe it pleases Bobby but not me
Honestly, I have not paid much attention to it. I do like how the female necros look though. I don't doubt it is woke, since it's 2023, so I'll wait to see more, after it releases.
Didn't see anything woke in the beta test. You can make a moron in character creation, that's about it. I don't know if they decide to put in disabled and chud dragons into later acts or updates.
unironically yes. Seasons probably wont hold me but ill enjoy it when its fresh. Moment to moment gameplay actually seems fun. Unlike every other arpg.
Not really. I fully expect to only play for a week and go right back to D2R.
I'm excited for the utter shitshow it will be on release.
beta was kind of fun and the graphics were sort of nice... just the environments though, the spell effects were garbage.
the main thing that gets me is the permanent level scaling. LOL. way to make leveling and exploring feel completely pointless and anti-fun.
level scaling is bad why?
every time you level up you get weaker compared to the enemies you're fighting.
Yeah and then you get better gear from those stronger enemies and become strong again. This is only apparent in the beta where the players were constrained to one zone so the monsters we were fighting for 25 levels grew with us and should be less noticeable with a full and fleshed out world.
EVERYTHING FEELS THE FUCKING SAME YOU RETARD
THERE IS NO SENSE OF PROGRESSION
PEOPLE TOLD ME IM AUTISTIC FOR GRINDING SHIT BUT THIS, THIS IS TOO REPETITIVE EVEN FOR ME
Progression comes from gear and talent points. If you don't think a character with a full load out of uniques at level 20 is stronger than a level 5 char in blues you are retarded. Lots of uniques make or break a build even.
You could even build around the basic bitch act 1 legendaries we had.
youre not going to have a full set of legendaries at level 20 because drops will be shit, spread out, and you will keep leveling because content stays up with you. There will be no way to farm out items you want without leveling until lvl 50
The problem is it's completely antithetical to the entire point of leveling in the first place.
Leveling exists as a tutorial not as a way to make 99% of content worthless
Cool strawman, bro.
But it's not a strawman
Most areas in D2 are totally worthless to a higher level character
Most of d3 would be totally worthless to a level 70 if not for level scaling
The entirety of D3 is worthless specifically for that reason. You don't have to do any of the base content of the game when you can repeat the same thing ad nauseum. Just hop in a rift and do them till you're blue in the face.
>The entirety of D3 is worthless specifically for that reason. You don't have to do any of the base content of the game
bounties are LITERALLY the base content of the game, level scaled so that you can do it instead of running the campaign with every character
you've spent so long playing D2 or PoE your brain is fucking slop. noone cares about your chud tantrum over level scaling, they'll just play the game if they liked the beta or they won't
>make 99% of content worthless
One of the central themes of Diablo has always been to out level the content and to continue to raise the difficulty as your character became more powerful.
>game remains challenging
>can play in all zones rather than the few high level zones
Obviously there's a balance and ratios but I don't see an inherent problem.
There’s a lack of progression felt. At Level 1 I can kill a skeleton in 4 hits, he can kill me in 10. At level 100 I can kill the same skeleton in 4 hits and he can still kill me in 10, but my sword makes cool purple shapes and whoosh noises, my armour glows green and I have a 5% chance on cool-down to ignore a fatal hit.
That’s if I’m lucky with loot drops, If I get unlucky then at some points in the game I take longer to kill him and he can kill me faster than a level 1 noob. What was the point of levelling again?
>proof?
>I made it up haha
the other anon is right, these complaints all read like a chud throwing a tantrum
And you sound like a whiny 10 year old.
It’s a standard issue, level scaling leads to the easier enemies never getting much easier. (Eg. Skyrims level scaling, where bears go from dying in a few hits to becoming super deadly at level 40ish because they messed up the level scaling.) - Your power fluctuates wildly and is completely inconsistent. Compare it to Prince of Persia warrior within, which had you begin shipwrecked with a stick, killing the lowest level goon took about 6 hits. As you upgraded your weapons they took less hits to kill, until you were dispatching them with 1 hit, but new enemies were introduced that took 6+ hits, maintaining the difficulty while showing how much stronger you had become.
I don't see the issue. Is it a power fantasy of a gay to have no thread in old areas of a game? Level scaling keeps all areas relevant, more or less.
who gives a shit about that wow proves its a broken mechanic and it certainly doesnt belong in an arpg
People carrying or playing with their friends but being at different level ranges.
mah growing numbers! gays fall for it every time. also, cosmetics - I could never understand how can people play for fashion but there it is
level scaling is not the worst thing about it.
when i saw how sorc spells look like in D4, i laughed so fucking hard i almost shit my pants.
>the sorc fireball is a .jpeg of yellow ring popping up for a second
the entire point of the game is the grind. they are making it so the grind doesn't pay off. You don't see an issue with that. kek
Don't have leveling in the first place if you're going to level the monsters with you. You could just as easily collect your skills from quests/areas and have it be less retarded.
If you really want to implement leveling and level scaling, then only have the level scaling active at max where you start to grind zones.
>Obviously there's a balance and ratios but I don't see an inherent problem.
Then get better glasses anon. Or play ESO.
yes i've been pleasantly surprised. i thought it'd just be d3.5 but it's more like d3.7, they tacked on a few more modern systems whereas d3 just outright disrespected what the contemporary player can handle.
i enjoy the mmo-lite elements since as a boomer i'm not looking for a full time job simulator, and pure MMOs haven't brought something new to the table in a while.
i hope poe2 and d4 can learn and rip off each other in a positive way
there are pros/cons to level scaling. the world tier/capstone system and the greater rewards it yields are the progression you're pretending does not exist
i never come to Ganker anymore since everyone is 15 but it's wild to see caricatures like this poster exist
>the main thing that gets me is the permanent level scaling. LOL. way to make leveling and exploring feel completely pointless and anti-fun.
If anything it makes exploring even better because you can go anywhere instead of being tied to lv 30 spiders in lv30 spooky forest because you are lv30 and the lv50 goblins in lv50 cave are too strong.
Why even play at all, just go look at pictures on the internet.
I agree with levelling being less satisfying if everything scales tightly along with it, but I think the issue is more that they should get rid of levels and have you progress in a different way. There being no levels (or meaning to levels) definitely isn't a problem to making exploring fun: look at the last two Zeldas, you can go anywhere and do anything and the only strict power progression that isn't just picking up nicer stuff is that you gradually have more and health and stamina to play with. You're still perfectly capable of running straight to the final boss. Constraining where you can go with levels doesn't improve exploration in my view.
I bought the ultimate edition and will be playing on thursday 🙂
>Woke
kys
Gonna wait until it's on sale, provided it doesn't turn out to be total shit. Pre-ordering or day-1 buy on Blizzard games is full retard. They're always broken as fuck with overloaded servers for at least the first week.
I'm so excited sisterbros!
It's gonna be finger lickin' good!
The fucking state of this game.
Jesus fucking christ. Please tell me this is fake.
it's not.
it's the new KFC promo
you can not make this shit up
What's wrong about this? The item designs fit the art direction.
Just the fact that it's tied to goyslop promo
But how does it affect us? If I am playing the game it's not any different than other cosmetics.
Yes. I’ll enjoy it and you gays will have no bearing on that.
YES I CANT WAIT!!!!
No surprise at all that the autist spamming Ganker with D4 hate threads is a PoE cultist
Imagine being so pathetic that you spend all your time counter shilling the competition to the game you’re addicted to but is currently so shit that you can’t bring yourself to play it instead
Nah I don’t support Bizzard and their pozzed trash
>open game
>select your moron
>6 moron characters to default
>refund the $90 whatever USD it costs
>buy poe MTX, not because i want it but because it makes morons mad.
It's region based. I had a mix of white people and a Russian big lady.
dont care, there should never be a reason why a game loads up with 6 morons.
The more you rage like a twitter chud, the more I get interested in d4. Thinking about naming my character bfr tantrum machine.
whos raging, im laughing at your moron game.
suck more BBC gay moron lover
lol
How money and time did you blow on poe? Would be a shame if nobody is sitting in town looking at your mtx.
time idk
money probably like 150-200 since 2012.
as dogshit as PoE has become. it still manages to be better than this diablo garbage and its moron pandering. lmao
I chose to give GGG money, you can easily play poe with 20-30 shekels. and if you dont care to map then you dont even have to pay.
these moron lovers after their gay OW2 flopped come to revive another beloved franchise only to fill it with morons and MMO MECHANICS lmfao. what a joke company and joke game made by chud moron lovers.
>looks in the direction of D:immortal & D4 microtransactions.
yeah i think blizzard won on the scumbag front.
i feel like i've seen this thread and these posts before
Balancing is going to be shit. But, I don't have nothing else to play, so I'm pre-ordering.
No. Back to Drox Operative 2 I go.
$10.
I had this emote in beta and I haven't even bought the game
I will watch hamsters being mad when this game crashes on release, and turns out being boring and repititive as fuck, and riddled with shop ads.
The game is the most obvious lazy casghrab in the videogame history, at this point we will need to create "Point at D4 buyers and laugh" threads en masse, because thats how stupid those buyers are.
I'll have the same laugh again when PoE 2 flops hard. People will be so mad realising it's the same game, only with a new tutorial zone that wastes double the time.
>The game is the most obvious lazy casghrab in the videogame history,
*cough*
Totk and overwatch 2 disagree, but ya diablo 4 mtxs are looks moron tier shit
I pre-ordered the Ultimate Edition and have all the beta unlocks, linked my twitch for the mount and will be getting the new KFC items. My Body Is Ready.
there's a mount for linking your Twitch?
No, there's a mount for donating subs to twitch streamers, he's saying he linked his accounts so he can donate subs to get the mount.
>No, there's a mount for donating subs to twitch streamers
Does it count if I use Prime sub? Like fuck I'm going to give actual money directly.
it's called something like "diablo 4 adopt a streamer" there is a guide on it I got an email because i did the demo
I mean I would probably do it if it was a tie in for St. Jude month and it was for donating to that through their stream but not if it's just straight subbing to a streamer.
oh no, there is a list of the ones you can adopt, they didn't release it yet. they have to be approved blizzard streamers or some shit like that.
HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
No, anon. Not for subbing.
For donating subs.
You don't get the sub.
You give the sub to someone else in the chat for the streamer. And it's not just one sub either, it's multiples.
Lol fuck that then. What even is the mount?
I'm glad they gave their interns some work.
fuckin lol
I'll stick with a normal looking horse, thanks
the only way I'd ever buy a mount in this game is if it was one of the war beasts from Act 5 of D2
you it's gonna cost like 15USD though. blizz is involved and they are testing the waters for !DROPS. no more free stuff once this takes hold.
cant wait to pirate it
I don't trust Blizzard to have a working online system for at least a year post launch. I'll consider it then.
>Woke
I’m going to pre order it tomorrow just to piss your retarded ass off. 🙂
you think this is an own?
we're laughing at you. the quality of the product goes hand in hand with how woke it is you clown.
>My hands are shaking as I type this, y-you think you have the upper hand? I own this place! My mtx is save in PoE! Come back and admire my league mtx!!
>we're
greasy incels who can't even define what woke is are laughing at me noooo save me pol
woke is putting morons and trannies in your game to try and get ESG rating and sympathy bux from your favorite games journolist outpost, trying to appear as the white savior of whatever it is you're shilling while doing absolutely nothing to actually help anyone or provide a decent service.
you are utterly brain washed and have been consumed by fear mongering propaganda. you see trannies when there are none.
>white savior
the black npc is a villain and all the religious characters in the game have been black since d2.
>load up game
>6 morons
>watch movie
>morons replacing white characters
>open fridge
>moron removed from syrup bottle because le racism??
>turn on tv
>mixed race moron commercials placed between mixed race moron tv programming
no I just have eyes.
>>load up game
>>6 morons
you know it's random right? or are you just crying about a cherry picked screenshot to fit your narrative like a 14 year old socialist would?
>the rest of your schizopost
nothing to do with diablo 4. you've lost the culture war, your brain is broken, stay mad, and keep crying
How hard did PoE babbys got filtered that they have to rail against the game 24/7? Or are they living in outright terror that their game won't make it once D4 releases? It's a constant barrage of rage and cope posts that seems to never end.
finished my work for the day and i see retards talking about Diablo Immoral P2
PoE is in a terrible state, but id rather play that than give this moron loving company a dime. lmao.
the game literally loads up with 6 morons on your screen. I didnt look up shit.
Region specific
sorry moron population here is only 15% not 100%
Why don't you tell us where you are located at, and we can judge ourselves?
you're buying a nu-blizzard game, you're a retarded gay
How many supporter packs and 40/40 leagues are on the line for you?
Just make them white? You do know you can do that right? By your logic this makes the game based and anti-woke right?
I wonder why this never got a response
not that anon, but, It's because your take is totally retard, how can anon put white people on his syrup, anyway, keep giving your money to blizzard, i know if we insult the company, you will take it personal
who keeps their syrup in the fridge
ill give it a try when it pops up on gamepass, but i aint buying this shit
Nope. Nu-blizz is incompetent, evil, or both. If the game is good 6 months after it comes out I'll buy it for xmas or something. It's a grind game, who needs to play on launch?
You type like a woman.
Takes one to know one.
I played D3 open beta 13 years ago and I could tell it was shit.
I played OW open beta I thought it was decent.
I played D4 Open Beta and I actually liked it but Blizzard is asking me to ignore 13 years of blunders and bad decisions.
I feel too old and the game is much too expensive for something I would play occasionally and I am just waiting for the shoe to drop, Blizzard will screw this up, no?
>daily tencent shill thread is up
Reminder that anyone saying shit like "hehe I'm gonna buy a 70 dollar + battlepass AAA product just to make a bunch of letters on my screen mad :)" is a retard and probably Twitter/Reddit user
Filtered. Expertly so
I'm excited to see Ganker seethe yes.
Also excited to see Chris Wilson lose.
it's not bad because it's woke, it's bad because it's just bad
>350 zł + microtransactions
No, thank you.
Sure. Had an i7-3770k, r9 290, 8GB ram and some 7200rpm HDD build from over a decade ago that I ditched and got a new build going for D4, now I've got an i7-12700k, rx 7900 xt, 64GB ram and a couple of nvme drives, so I'd say I'm pretty ready.
>WE'RE L-LAUGHING AT YOU THO!!!
no one cares, people playing this game for fun and enjoying getting their loot itch in will never care about these chud tantrum threads- only made to commiserate because there is nothing better for you to do, you don't even play games. we can tell you don't play games as you never even played the beta and it was free
I am! Will be enjoying it on Gamepass. I'm going to pay full price for Street Fighter 6, though.
I don't play games with battle passes
I'll happily buy the battlepasses once it's on Gamepass, which seems the way it's intended to be consumed.
>live service
>95% of player base quit after "story"
>mtx sales plummet after season 1
>left with an "open world" with not much purpose
>only players remain are fomo ridden retards doing dailies for battlepass
>Isometric Anthem
And then they release a story expansion for 40 bucks and everyone comes back to play it. It's obvious they're eyeballing the Destiny 2 model. Hey, I'll play that. I'm easily amused, if you give me things to kill, loot, and a passable story, I'll play that shit
Could have also been offline and like Borderlands 2, but can't change that now.
Would have been such an easy goodwill farm instead of coming off like a cash grab
>Could have also been offline
It really couldn't have. Blizzard hasn't made a new game offline in over a decade. The only things that can be played offline are remasters of Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, and Starcraft, and you know those aren't always online because they're too stupid to know how to implement always online into old code and too lazy to write new code.
>release a story expansion for 40 bucks
I'm buying the game but it will be a bit fucking rich if they pull shit shit. Hook people in with the battlepasses + cosmetic mtx, fine i dont give a fuck. But that should be enough to ensure more content.
>people are leaving our game and our bottom line grows smaller
>I know, let's add more microtransactions to make up for lost $$$!
>more people leave
>add even more microtransactions!
>more fed up people leave
>now we REALLY have to divert more of your manpower into making paid cosmetics!
>and so on
Why is every gaming company retarded?
Extracting as much money as possible for the top/publisher and their shareholders is more important than a functioning and engaging game. Everything is optimised toward profit. I wish there were more buy2play multiplayer arpgs out there.
they're not retarded, gays gobble that shit up
>95% of player base quit after "story"
Yeah, just like Diablo 1, 2 and 3. You're getting really desperate at making baits.
How about you bait my cock into your ass, gay.
Why design it to be a live service open world game then?
For the people who play these games past the campaign? Are you stupid?
It needs to be a live service to do that? Are you retarded?
Do you play video games for the story? Lol, read a book, gay.
>Woketablo
I understand that this is like, woke + Diablo smushed together. But where does the T come from?
yes and i just pre ordered
Haven't played a Blizzard game since dropping Hearthstone in 2017. Will continue to not play them.
Remember to tune in to your favorite Twitch streamer for !DROPS
Eat your KFC for exclusive items
Pay a $30 dollar premium for 4 days of early access
Grind out that Battlepass because all the shiny armor is hidden behind it!
Anyone who doesn't like it is just a poorfag
I'll wait till it's 50% off with all the battle passes Made free
I'll just get an nvidia gpu, redeem the game, return the gpu
fuck nvidia and fuck blizzard
>+12 Strength when traversing uphill
>+155% Poison damage on Burned enemies suffering from being Frozen
>+5 damage for each empty inventory slot
>Giving Nublizz money
Hell no
No. I always enjoyed those kinds of games but only when they're offline and I can play at my own pace without missing any of the content.
I don't like when devs are trying to make me feel like a second class gamer because I don't want to invest an enormous amount of time and money in a single video game.
What are you missing out on?
>What are you missing out on?
We still don't know to what extend but a lot of skins and varied rewards.
I mean, a lot of people already permanently missed a skin for not spending hours playing the beta-test for the game on a week-end. It doesn't really bode well.
> Who care it's only skins ?
Is something a lot of people will say but not having access to a skin is not having access to a part of the content.
I perfectly understand the concept of rewards but I will never be OK with time limited events with rewards.
So you're just autistic like that and easily baited by FOMO.
>So you're just autistic like that
Probably
>and easily baited by FOMO.
At least I made the decision to not play the game so I'll not be irritated by that and I'll not complain about it for years. You can't be baited if you ignore the bait because you recognize it as a bait. Buying and playing D4 is accepting the bait or not having access to as much content as people who gobble those baits.
The devs don't want people who don't gooble those baits and I'm pretty sure they'll do all they can to make things worse for people like me who bought the game like not getting access to a lot of QOL things.
>Buying and playing D4 is accepting the bait or not having access to as much content as people who gobble those baits.
lol
"Play your way" - Unless you pick druid, then you play as a 500lbs strongman.
This game is already destined for complete failure because of one simple reason;
Diablo 4 is banned in china, blizzard is banned in china. There goes 80% of their revenue. By the time they get Diablo 4, 2024/25, they will already be aware of how shit the game is and PoE 2 will be out by then.
China accounted for less than 5% of Activision-Blizzard's annual revenue and they didn't get "banned", they left. Nice try Tencent shill.
Definitely depends how my internet connection in Portugal turns out. I'll be innawoods near Porto for about 3 months, no point in getting the game if I can't play.
Kick and tackle barbarian was shioads of fun, despite the game experience being an absolute jankfest
Yes, I've skipped every single cutscene in the beta and I'm gonna do it at launch too. Lore is for gays.
Imagine defending enemy scaling based on player stats/levels
literally the worst design decision you can make in a video game and it's a typical Blizzard/WoW design choice because it exists in literally all of their games
I do not like ultimate skills.
>enter fields of hatred
>stumble upon a group of players from the same clan
>pop my ultimate skill
>kill 3 people in quick succession
>kill a 4th as he rushes in to revive his friends
>get play of the game
I love them.
yeah half the games skills have cooldowns so that means youre stuck using your shit skill for most of the gameplay. Gonna play like shit.
i canceled my pre-order after playing the beta.
ive never been so bored out of my mind playing a slasher game.
i simply didnt have fun at all.
not even for a minute.
i pity the people who think this is good, in any way.
>like 5 spells per class
>graphics worse than D2R
>no music
>"i need 5 turds from monsters X" secondary quests
this is Lost Ark for 70-100$ with an additional 10-15$ season pass, depending if you want the standard or the super-goy season pass edition.
people who buy this need to rethink their lives.
>this is Lost Ark for 70-100$ with an additional 10-15$ season pass
I levelled lost ark to the level cap and the experience was terribly dull. It was nothing but walking from one quest point to the next and every single enemy died with just glancing at them.
Diablo 4 on the other hand required me to actually engage with the combat mechanics, especially vs the mobs that weren't level scaled.
>Diablo 4 on the other hand required me to actually engage with the combat mechanics
Plenty of better games let you do that, don't have to blow $70 for that.
>Plenty of better games let you do that, don't have to blow $70 for that.
I'll be frank with you, I played most of them within the genre of loot focused games and either enjoyed them thoroughly or drooped them for various reasons. I am open to alternative recommendations though, so give it a shot.
>Diablo 4 on the other hand required me to actually engage with the combat mechanics
which is:
>cooldown
>cooldown
>cooldown
>cooldown
I was playing a kick and tackle barbarian in beta because kick had two charges and tackle was fairly short a typical encounter would go like frenzy for 5 seconds to get rage capped, kick enemies into wall, double slice for 4 seconds, tackle, double slice for 4 seconds, kick for another 4 seconds of stun. At which point most things were dead. The positioning to ram enemies into walls was very unique and engaging.
Playing the mini game of keeping berserk up in between was just the cherry on top. This was in the level 30 zone with the vampires btw which I cleared by myself, boss included.
The game loses a lot of fun factor when enemies die too quickly, but I.am hopeful for endgame.
>takes an entire minute to kill a single pack of monsters
>this was fun
you realize youre retarded right?
based. Barb kick was sick and actually sold me on diablo4. I dunno how but im going to make a build that lets me kick as much as possible.
based. I was playing bleed barb, just ran around flaying morons with my sword and watching them explode, leaping around slashing and running, it was awesome and engaging in a way poe/d2 will never EVER be
>i could leap every 17 seconds
so engaging
>I could kick every 17 seconds
so engaging
>I could ground stomp every 16 seconds
What were you guys doing the other 15/16
seconds of time?
>spamming basic attack
>walking at incredibly slow speed
wooooahhhh
>What were you guys doing the other 15/16
>seconds of time?
>so engaging
thank you, it is quite engaging. glad you agree
>walking at incredibly slow speed
>wooooahhhh
right on cue with the reddit memes
you stood there and wacked at shit until you could use your bigger skill on cooldown or generated enough resources to use something that did damage. There were exactly two mobs in the entire beta that required any sort of thought on the player - den mother, and butcher. Everything else could be completely ignored.
Unironically yes. It's honestly been a lot of years since I felt like I just genuinely want to play a game. That's why I inevitably bought ultimate and took a week off work, and I will be having fun the entire time.
>took a week off work
for a blizzard launch? the servers are going to shat themselves for the first month lmao
But that's what the open beta was for :^)
I got over 400 hours saved and felt like I could use a break, no loss regardless.
I have the Ultimate edition as well but i'm worried about the four day head start and server rollback due to exploiting
> Long ass CD on most skills on a Diablo game
You have to be retarded to be excited for this
>I made it up lol
no he didn't
they even made some kind of raid boss skill LOOOOOL turned the game into an MMORPG
made what up?
>teleport has a 11 sec cooldown
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>flame shield
>active for 1 sec
>20 sec cooldown
>frost nova
>30 sec cooldown
hahahahahahaha
But skills in the beta capped out at rank 5. In the full game, you can get them to rank 18 which will dramatically reduce cooldowns.
>if you level up to level 9000 and and and and....
god i hate modern nu-blizzard so fucking much.
>In the full game, you can get them to rank 18 which will dramatically reduce cooldowns.
Wrong. Level 5 skill is 18% cooldown reduction. Level 18 is 38%. And realistically you won't get over lvl 10.
Bro... you have up to like 60 seconds skill cooldowns. This game is really bad with CDs.
>WoOahH you can worship Lilith in this game!?!?
>WOW super cool demons! I love demons and evil shit and blood!
>Holy Moly, a satanic sigil!!!!!!
>wowzers I just unlocked the level 40 blood curse spell for plus three damage!!!!!
>Gadzooks, pentagrams and satanic imagery, my favorite!
The best part of Diablo iv is that players who “die suddenly” while paying will be able to continue the game forever in the afterlife.
holy schizoism
Atheists are gay gays but unironically believing spooky demons r real is worse
ty added to filter
I’m a satanist, I just hate lilithfags.
AND DEMONS ARE TO REAL!!!!
Awwww cool!
Blizzard desecrated a church with demonic images!!!!
https://www.pcgamer.com/blizzard-filled-a-deconsecrated-french-church-with-diablo-4-murals/
This is like how I desecrate my pants while I play the bideogames!!!!
Huh-huh, I wish I could smear my shit all over a church, that would be so cool!!!!!
I wish I could have sex with a demon in a church to get back at god for not letting me get laid.
>Blizzard desecrated a church with demonic images
Yeah, I don't like that.
I have a hard time believing schizos like this still exist in 2023. How can you be so indoctrinated with modern access to education ? I guess it explains all the retarded conspiracy theories.
It's quite entertaining to witness though.
terminal contrarianism + pretending to be retarded turning into being retarded + others like him backing him up with the occasional 'based'
>dont fall for corporate shlock and fomo advertisement
how is this indoctrination? Indoctrinated by whom you fucking retard? who's behind the scenes profiting off of people not buying garbage products?
naw i cant do it Diablo is a single player maybe with friends game to me the battle pass and cash shop sit with me the wrong way man i cant do it
i just dont like those shits
tencent shills get aggressive when you point out that they’re making shit up
DIABLO FOUROPHYLL MORE LIKE DIABLO BOROPHYLL!
first thing i noticed is the lack of music, then it hit me that the gameplay is just dogshit, mostly due to all the cooldowns.
>(muh primary, muh secondary and muh other spells).
fuck off, game, i dont want your motherfucking "use primary to get mana to use secondary once/twice" bullshit.
>teleport
>1 hour cooldown
>flame shield, its active 2 seconds
>it has 90 hours cooldown
>frost nova
>50 hour cooldown
hey diablo 4.
can you FUCK OFF and let me have fun?
>no
uninstall it is, then.
ill just start up D2R and zip around with 0 cooldown teleport and spam 9000 motherfucking lightning novas (doesnt even exist in D4) because its FUCKING FUN.
the only game that still makes money for them is WoW so guess what they turned diablo into WoW thats why your no getting raids and other people interrupting you its also why alot of streamers say they like it
they just moved there wow addicts over slightly to another game
Oh come on play our diablo 3,5 the Immortal game with copy pasted wow spell system and storyline (Nathanos and sylvanas romance is back! :3). I'm sure you would love to buy some cosmetics in our in-game store, just give it a shot. All customers are satisfied according to our numbers.
the open world was utterly empty during the server slam.
i didnt see anybody else, it was shocking.
Server slam wasn't even a slam lol, the initial beta few months ago was more like one, this shit didn't even have login queues.
it was more a test to see how many people dropped the game after the first beta test.
considering how empty the open world was in the server slam, it doesnt look good at all for nu-blizz.
i wonder how the microsoft aquisition will look like if D4 flops.
>remember diablo 3 launch
>removal of LAN, shitty servers, login queues, auction house
>stayed away from it
>blizzard had such a fuckhuge marketing campaign even in my post-soviet shithole there were huge events
>have to relive this shit again
>people will see the issues from a mile away and goyim will still buy it
At this point this company lives on brand recognition and millions in marketing.
Doesn't matter how bad the games get or what the company fucks up.
fundamentally bad genre, but if i ever do get the itch i just play poe instead
With all the retardation going on at blizzard, will you really give them your hard earned neetbux?
Was "you guys not have phones" that far away?
Man it must be hard being a rightoid gamer. Always seething about developers not catering to your shit politics.
Just look at this place. Nonstop seething 24/7.
its just a shit game anon.
shouldnt you be busy clapping for some chud cutting their dick off or a blm raslly burning another town down??
bro the BLM riots ended years ago, you have to let go.
nothing has changed though
point to the rioting
reminder that Overwatch2 proves all promises hold nothing for the devs.
not really, it made me want to get D2R to give that a spin, but i dont really have the time for grind anyway.
I think D4 will be great after a year of patches and shit, hope it sells well so I can pick it up for next to nothing all patched up and good to go.
After a year they'll turn it into full p2w censored version of Korean mmo
It'll be so gay being forced to watch autists run around as their waifus with those retarded cosmetic wings.
Yeah I can wait till this drops to $5.
Russians will, crack it like they cracked wc reforged, d2r and d3
>Russians will, crack it like they cracked wc reforged, d2r and d3
This might sound retarded but I'd rather download the cracked version to have a nice no-online no lag offline playthrough once.
d4reflection
I love level scaling, I start strong, I end strong. It's almost like I could have not played at all.
Haven't been excited for it in the first place
Literally me, what the fuck happened to us? Remember how excited you were before D3's launch?
Nah I'm giving it a miss. That always online nonsense is giving me bad vibes.
>Always online
No
...are they really promoting their game with Billie Ellish of all people?
Because nothing makes me think Diablo than some sad zoomer girl singing about a breakup with her girlfriend.
They need streamers and their zoomer following to buy the game, dude, you have to make it hip somehow.
I refuse to play a game that I can't pirate.
I played the beta and thought it was fun, but holy god 70 euros plus battle pas PLUS cass shop?
Are you fucking kidding me? No way in hell I'd spend that kind of money on a videogame, let alone one by blizzard.
But hey if you're willing to be milked like a cow, more power to you.
>I played the beta and thought it was fun
i thought it was anti-fun.
to such a horrible extent, it felt like they purposelly went out of their way to make everything as un-fun and boring as possible.
its not just a bad diablo game, its the worst hack&slash i ever played.
>cooldowns cooldowns cooldowns cooldowns
>cooldowns cooldowns
>cooldowns cooldowns
>no music
this isnt even a Diablo game.
A bit.
It seems good enough.
I'll probably not get it at launch though. Think I'll wait for the first or second season to see if it is worth getting.
Is it more risky to make games for older audiences? They seem more inclined to not get swept up into FOMO and wait.
Sure, because generally speaking, older audience tend to be more intelligent, or at the very least not as impatient.
Zoomers that are raised online have no self controll whatsoever, and they swallow any shit that is fed to them and then get supriced when the taste is off.
>fomo
Literally only works on children and adults with an underdeveloped brain.
what the fuck is a fomo?
i never saw it written anywhere before, ever, but in the last week theres fomo fomo fomo fomo fomo fomo.
what the fuck is a fomo?
look how much money star citizen made and is still making and it's pathetically managed. purely built on the dreams of old men. we joked about it at the time but a significant portion of the people who spent loads of money on star citizen will either be dead or unable to play the game by the time it is anywhere close to what was promised.
So there's a game I played when i was a very young kid called Dragonrealms. It was a paid subscription MUD, usually had about 1000-2000 players on at any given time. This was in the early 90s on AOL when MUDs were all the rage and you even had pay per minute MUDs. The company that made it also had another MUD, Gemstone, which was even older, I think it debuted in 1985.
It's still around and getting active development. Most of the players have been playing it that whole time or are veterans who came back after realizing MMOs suck now.
The problem is, everyone keeps fucking dying, in real life. Their target audience was in their 20s and 30s FORTY YEARS AGO.
You'd think the developers are dying and retiring too so it's fine. The basedboys can take their MUD to the grave with them.
Oh they're all long dead I think. The company got bought by a Chinese mobile game company like 15 years ago and they just rotate through a mostly volunteer staff.
It depends how hard they monetize it. If they keep the cash shop confined to cosmetic items only (which I very much doubt), then I might give it a shot.
nope. just gonna buy more stash tabs in path of exile instead.
not for any of your stupid fucking reasons either, i just don't like how pigeonholed classes became after diablo 1.
My D1 warrior with lvl 2 apocalypse was one of the better times i ever had gaming in my life.
>D2 classes
>pigeonholed
Never played a melee sorc?
Melee necro?
Singer barb?
In D1, classes DID NOT MATTER. They only determined your player model, voice, starting stats, and natural stat cap. Everything else was determined by your gear and level up choices.
So yes, D2 was a downgrade in that not every power was available to every class.
>In D1, classes DID NOT MATTER.
they mattered.
attack speed with weapons was different.
health/mana each level up was different.
top stats were different (mage was 45 str top, and 250 magic top)
That's just numbers though. Gear could get around the stat caps, so you could have a greatsword swinging sorcerer if you wanted, you just needed to find enough strength bonuses. I had like 175 magic on my warrior at one point, I think.
After D1 you can't, like, put paladin auras on your barbarian, leap into crowds, and cast frost nova to immobilize them in your aura.
>Let me lecture you about a game I have never played
moron you didnt even play D1 if you write dogshit posts like that.
I actually did finish D1. on playstation
>bro patch to 1.05b shit is busted and super fun
>i'll put up a server
I'm a strong believer in voting with your wallet. "You deserve what you tolerate" and all that.
Seeing as Blizz gonna milk the living shit out of customers I can't support that "business-model".
To me buying D4 is contributing to the deterioration of the whole industry.
So no. They can go kick rocks.
If you don't buy this, day 1, you're killing Diablo for good. You want to live in a world like that? Look, it's your money, but I'm just saying, Invest in your interests, anon.
hello redd.tor chud
can you go, return bee ACK to reddit
>online only
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
What a good chuckle this has given me!
Okay, now come back when you have grown up and have become legal age.
hahahah!!
I liked your poast. 🙂
But ! I am of Ganker posting age!!
I am also wondering why you made that statement in the first place! I simply poked fun at an always online videogame and the fraud that comes with it!
Shill!?!? Let's hope not . . . Nya!
What's woke about it? The fat druids?
they censored everything out
like OMG THERE WAS A BOOB COVER IT NOOOOOWWWWW
Dunno about that, there's plenty of sexy outfits. Sorc even has some clear underboob tmogs and necro shows plenty of tummy.
moron Deus vult
I think it's all deleted but you might be able to search
>diablo iv censorship
and find something
Is everything OK meatball ron?
I'm gonna preorder today, what version do I choose?
£69.99 £89.99 or £99.99?
>£99.99
if you don't get that one you'll be gate kept
well you won't be joining my clan anyways if you don't have all the beta achievements unlocked
>gate kept
can you translate to english?
yeah
Didn't they say that their battle pass was a tenner? I'm speculating and waiting for people to post the game's shop. If it's a tenner, you can buy the cheapest and upgrade. The only thing you'd be missing out is the four days you'd play early.
just get D2R and save yourself the money and the hassle.
>just get yourself the worse game
you think this is funny, but D2R exceeds D4 in every aspect.
>better graphics
>better sound
>has music
>more spells/skills
>doent have 10 hour cooldowns on literally fucking everything
im trying to think what D4 does better than D2R but nothing comes to mind.
No chud Amazon
we dont get a chudzon, but in d4 we get every other character that looks like a chud instead.
i just told you it does.
>i just told you it does
Proof of that claim?
Such a big offender to not have an Amazon dedicated to bows, crossbows and javelins and spears. Rogue is too much focused on single target damage, even with ranged attacks.
>you think this is funny, but D2R exceeds D4 in every aspect.
lol no it doesn't post your RMT account timestamped
mounted combat
>mounted combat
but only once a day, its on a cooldown.
>make shit up
sad
wanna bet its gonna be on a cooldown.
>Proof of that claim?
here:
>better graphics
>better sound
>has music
>more spells/skills
>doent have 10 hour cooldowns on literally fucking everything
>here:
that's your opinion
ROTFLMMFAOWTFBBQ
>source: beta
yeah me to, you must have been on the console version
LMMFAO
i played the beta on both pc and console and it had the same lack of music, the same spells and the same shitty graphics.
the pc version looked much better, but still trash.
no it didn't
>source : dude trust me
Is another episode of Correct anon vs paid shills/blizzdrones. Don't worry anon, I know you are right at least
samefag
Good morning sirs
oh i see we have a time traveler here.
Every single video game worth playing is woke.
name one.
Team fortress two
Diablo 2
I'm ready for Ganker to lose utterly and seethe yes.
they nerfed hydra to the ground so I wont be playing
I remember this one time, there was a thread like this and the kid cried and cried because no one would give him the ripped music from D4
i laffed and laffed and laffed
>lol
that is me laffing again
probably ended up in >>>/vg/ with the other schizos
winner winner chicken dinner
well that wasn't hard at all.
can i have the ripped music from d4?
I can't imagine anyone bothered to rip anything of the game, let alone datamined for anything else than for what might come to the mtx shop. The game is about to release in two weeks.
The game will have music, just as the previous games did. Will it be as iconic as entering tristram or the rogue encampment? Don't think so.
>The game will have music, just as the previous games did.
no it wont.
D3 already barely had any music in it at all (and whatever music there was, it was shit), and D4, we can all easily say, will have no music.
the whole damn game makes it look like it was in development for 10 minutes, and music takes time to compose.
only act 1
ashava new ost, I think they killed it with new version.
They really did great job so far on music.
this is audible diarrhea.
this is even worse.
what the fuck was blizzard thinking with this shit?
jesus christ what a fucking disaster.....
>6 minutes reply
ok, you could just say you didn't had time to listen, now everyone knows you are just a cuck
i played the beta gay i know exactly how this low effort trash sounds like.
ok cuck.
D4 doesnt have any music so the kid that was crying was right.
yes it does
yes
can i listen to this ripped music?
>weaving spell instead of just chugging mana potions is...LE BAD
>zoomers when they can't spam teleport and chug mana potions and instead must manage their resources wisely
I-IS THAT A COOLDOWN?! 10 SECONDS IS LIKE LONGER THAN MY TIKTOKS!!!
SSDs were solely created so that those people don't start thinking about their life while loading into the next area. LOL
You mean like the boomers who exclusively ladder start as tele sorcs in d2
CDs where introduced in Diablo 3 so your attempt to blame it on zoomers is fucking stupid. Also that's why D2 is way more fun, no cooldowns, spam whatever skills your build have.
But d2 isn't fun
It's shallow garbage made for garbage players
There's a reason d3 is magnitudes more popular
The reason is that when D3 released gaming was already mainstream and little timmy could play on his ps3 if he wanted.
You don't remember the shitshow that was the real money auction house in D3 release because nowadays people are busy rising their gear score repeating rifts ad nauseum.
>spam whatever spells way more fun
Mmmm yes instant gratification waiting is like, the worst! gimme spell now now now now!
I played D2 back in the day and picked it up again when Remastered. I know is a hard pill to swallow but everyone that has a different opinion than you isn't a zoomer.
Wait and see how D4 is not going to be near as popular as D3 or D2, you delusional blizzdrone.
Ooohhh i see blizzard antis are putting D3 on a pedeestal now
I personally dislike D3, I am more of a D2 fan. I was just talking about its popularity which is not related to the quality of the game. That game sold 30 million copies and I bet my ass Nu blizz is not going to sell even half of that with this battlepass diablo shit.
I'm fine with having different opinions but there hasn't been an honest one posted yet.
Cooldowns are another resource to manage and they force the player to think about their play instead of being able to spam any ability. Mana management in D2 is way to do it, but it isn't the only way.
D2 is a pitifully small unpopular game
D4 will crush it just like d3 did
>spamming blessed hammer 25784892 times is so fun
> spamming basic attack to gather resources to use your cool attacks locked under a cooldown is so fun
Just keep playing PoE if you want zoom zoom 1 button builds for god's sake.
>D4 entire gameplay is left clicking worthless signature spell 20 times, to get mana and right click 1-2 times to use the secondary, and you get to press a button once every 10 hours to use another spell.
yes anon das right i would rather zoom zoom boom boom all across the motherfucking map while having fun.
>NO NO NO NO YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE FUN
too bad, im zoom zooming and boom booming across the map in D2R as we speak.
they will
the point is that if other people stop playing PoE there’ll be noone left to scam in trades or see their own MTX and their favorite game starts to die
which is why they are desperately shilling PoE and shittalking D4. they don’t care whether D4 is good or not, they never did
>d4 fanboys stop having a discussion and just talk amongst themselves about "muh poe" instead of addressing the negative sentiment around their game
lol you blizzdrones are pathetic. First to bring up poe, and won't shut up about it. It's all you can do to ignore the problems of d4, just blame it on the boogeyman
Why enter a thread of a game you don't like?
why talk when you could just keep sucking blizz dick gay?
>thread asks open ended question about game
>people answer: no
>WTF AHHHHH YOU CANT SAY THAT AHHHH ONLY POSITIVE THINGS IN MY D4 SAFE SPAACCCCCCEEEEE!!!
>Tantrum
Ok
it's a bit hard not to get tired of PoE autists because they make this same thread multiple times a day. totally not in a panic about D4
and everyone's tired of arguing with you about your autistic obsessions about D4 design choices because most of what you say about D4 is obvious bullshit and hyperbole
cooldowns, level scaling, pigeon holed classes, and boring skills are absolutely not hyperbole
yes they are incel
go play whatever other game you find enjoyable, it will help you cope with not having sex
>using roasty culture language unironically
lol
the roasties are right to make fun of and marginalize you
you're pathetic lol
cooldowns is peak zoomer gameplay though. Its the exact kind of shit retards and design failures implement into games because they can't into good game design. Name one game from early gaming era that used cooldowns
cooldowns murder fun.
its just not fun.
D3 already was trash because of all the cooldowns.
D4 doubled down on that shit even harder.
i didnt have even 1 minute of fun while playing the beta.
it was pure, distilled ultra-boredom in game form.
nobody cares about your fun, old man. go raise a family already you're pushing 40.
If you want to mindlessly spam something play cookie clicker
Stop trying to dumb down other games
But none of the old games are any good?
So why would you copy boomer garbage
Cooldowns are far superior and are why d3 has the best combat in arpgs
this isnt the 90's. games changed and people want different things.
D2 boomers are too retarded to keep track of more than 1 skill, that's why d3/4 make them seethe so hard
whats to keep track of? The game lets me know when i can use them!
>admitting you are zoomers
your generation is pathetic. Fag worship. Cooldowns in video games. Being afraid of words. Having no testosterone. Your parents failed you and I'm sorry
are you finished with your tantrum
>Be boomer
>Be fully grown adult
>Have a meltdown on the internet over a children's toy
>Crying irl because the game won't let you spam one single skill like a retard for 10k hours
>Accuse other generations of being pathetic
Kek, kys manchild gay, you never made it, and you never will. Maybe focus on raising your wife's black son and your switch.
Afraid that PoE dies?
>Its the exact kind of shit retards and design failures implement into games because they can't into good game design.
blah blah blah no argument, cool opinion bro
games shouldnt decide when to do things. Players should decide when to do thing. If you have to wait around to engage enemies because you need to use a cooldown, it artificially slows down gameplay. if you DONT need to wait, then what is the point of having the skill in the first place? Things like snares on cooldown are only impactful if you actually NEED to snare sometihng. If you can kill them without it, it served no purpose. If you can only use it so often and you NEED it, then you have to wait. It's bad design
How are morons putting down money for this without understanding this is an mmo and not an arpg? Has marketing made people this fucking stupid?
>buy our new expansion and unlock 10 new levels and new items!
people going in and expecting a one time purchase of 70$ are going to get blindsided hard
This is the most HEY REMEMBER DIABLO, REMEMBER DIABLO YOU PASTY WHITE CUNT GIVE ME $1000 scheme ever.
its the new eso
>managing your time instead of being able to spam spam spam instant gratification is zoomer gameplay
lol. lmao even.
cooldowns literally saved the diablo franchise. DIII revived a dead game and then Immortal immortalized it. Now DIV will make it even better with epic loot and better looking characters.
>DIII revived a dead game
moron you must have a short memory because the initial launch of D3 was such a disaster they had to remove their auction house bullshit and basically rekey the entire fucking game with their expansion pack.
And even since then it's devolved into mega trillions of damage per second
it's an ok action RPG, but a complete shit Diablo game
D3 ruined the franchise for good, now D4 is going to kill it off
>And even since then it's devolved into mega trillions of damage per second
it's always funny seeing this brought up as a con but no one can argue against it. it's not a problem. big numbers scare mutts I guess
please tell me this is a screenshot from immortal.
there's no necromancer in immortal, anon...
They toned down the blue, but its still there. Its not as bad as that image though
Nah that screenshot is from Diablo 4. It looks worse than immortal for some reason. I dont get how retards still get excited for this shit. I mean just listen to this https://streamable.com/5kdzjb .
Here is your diablo immortal
lmao is that the same mini-map in diablo 4?
wtf? 100USD
>WTF THE MINIMAP?!
trying too hard, mate.
wtf is that real?
I'm not clicking that
Yeah I thought the beta was good, the skills feel good to use, there are a few good builds per class, and the armors look cool, pretty much all I ask for in an arpg like game. People are just bitching because ARPG fans are the worst fans in the entire industry besides maybe MMO fans. It's impossible to please them.
>T. 6k+ hours in poe and 3k+ in grim dawn and who knows what the fuck else in TQ and d2/3
I share the same sentiment. I suspect PoE fags to behind all this seehing, as they are addicted to their game and not really fans of the genre. They see their casino threatened and are in constant ass pain over it, the state of their game, rivaling games and so on. Years of indoctrination of your bog standard mantras gave them brain damage and turned the game into a part of their personality. The audience never being satisfied but crying for alternatives reminds me of arena FPS fags, or full loot mmo PvP fags. They like the idea more than the game itself and will never give any a shot. What you read here are copes and excuses to not try things out.
I'll be glad that there is another entry to the genre.
>They like the idea more than the game itself and will never give any a shot.
Nailed it. PoE players overwhelmingly don't even like PoE, they like the idea of Poe, or they like the idea of themselves being an "elite" gamer playing a "complex" game, but they don't really like Poe or arpgs at all
It's not even Poe fags, its just people so mind broken by blizzard that they can't have any fun with anything they do and don't want you to either, it's some incel energy for sure
>It's not even Poe fags
yes it is. they even posted this thread to the dIIII general trying to get people to post here. it didn't work.
>admits he's from /vg/
go back
you can't make me, there are millions just like me. I'll spend my money where I want, how i want and on what i want. also, i'll visit any fucking board i like. I bought a Ganker pass.
bye-bye poorman
>lol
that is me laughing at you
not really, there is pretty much zero woke shit in it except for black body type 2, but black body types existed in diablo since D1 so whatever.
>Buy tasty KFC
>recieve free bonus gamer loot
What's the problem exactly?
Blizz went from WoW Night Elves and Overwatch Widowmaker to the freaking Diablo 4 Druid, wheres the fun in that.
>Overwatch Widowmaker
bro she wasn't even sexualized
just play hellgate london lol. it'll probably get big after one of the youtubers brings up the private server.
Will you be able to modify the game's graphics/colour with reshade?
>all the haters are third-world poorfags and PoE shit-eaters
really makes you think
it was funny and then it got real. like i had doubts but the D4 paywall really, really exposed them. well, they exposed themselves because of it and being poor.
It’s really weird. I’ve noticed that third worlders also REALLY like posting about the horn trinket. I’m assuming they’re mad that they can’t afford the early access or battlepass or whatever.
they unlocked it and can't do anything with it because of the paywall LMAO
Wait for the next thread to pop up, then post about how you can’t wait to play early, you’ve got the ultimate edition, and the horn. I guarantee it’ll cause asshurt in at least one ESL.
lmao is it that easy? what the fuck is wrong with them?
save it while you can, it's on a self destruct timer
Is that real? It's like that Overwatch diversity scoring system, going mainstream was a mistake
You can't pay me to play another blizzard product after how bad D3 was.
bobby keepn good on his toilet paper promise
im trying to imagine D2, but with cooldowns:
>i get out of the rogue camp
>cast teleport
>7 hours cooldown
>time to run, then
>cast frost nova
>5 hours cooldown
>eh....
>cast blizzard
>only 60 minutes cooldown, maybe i will get to use it again before i go to bed
>cast frozen orb, but only 2 times
>i have to left click my worthless signature spell 30 times to use my frozen orb again
>only 59 more minutes before i can cast blizzard again
notice how zoomers can only speak in hyperbole while craving instant gratification for every action
>oomer oomer oomer and and and something about gates... and and ooomer oomer oomer keepings gates and and lighting up gasses....
sorry cant hear you over the sound me of spamming teleport all over the map.
>D2 players don't want to play the game they just want to teleport past everything
lmao nice "game"
>i cant do anything, its on a cooldown
lmao nice "game".
we know you're a zoomer, you don't have to keep telling us
now go watch our TikToks, unless even that can't hold your med-riddled brain
>oomer oomer oomer and and and
yes yes yes, gates and gasses, i know.
>zoomers starts to have a melt down
run along and take your meds I know your ADHD is flaring up
They are will never play video games. Missing opportunities.
you are a zoomer
>ITT poefags and poorfags unable to accept the future is female
No, I'm done beta testing for Blizz. I will happily wait a couple of years for the game to be done and go on sale for $40, just like I did with D3.
ok
well, you asked!
ok, gl.
uou too, fren. wgmi.
I sure hope release has WASD movement so I don't have to play with a controller.
just wait for it to come out on the Switch 2.
What you are saying makes no sense at all.
>Nintendo releases Switch 2
>Blizz ports D4 to Switch 2
>you buy a copy for $30
>you enjoy it
I played the beta and it felt like a slog with pretty graphics. The art style is nice. I just don't want to walk back and forth back and forth back and forth. Ride back and forth. Teleport back and forth. That and Diablo 2 still exists. I'd rather play through that again if I get bored.
I hope your KFC account is in good standing so you can get these
Played the beta of diablo 4, got the horn too. Game seems like it would be fun so I'll pick it up. It's cross-platform too so I can play with my buddies at work who all own different systems. Like 7 of us are grabbing it and we're going to make a clan.
im just gonna pretend it's like an extensive diablo 3 expansion or something, it's too annoying to think otherwise
It looks very well made and very boring. I'll reserve final judgement until we see the endgame, but given all the "information" they've given out so far about the major endgame systems - it's not looking too promising.
I promised myself I would never give blizzard money after the release of diablo 3 but I've been thinking about it since I tried the server slam. It wasn't amazing but it kept me entertained for a solid weekend.
Then I looked at the different editions and realized there's 3 different battle passes, and seasons and other timed garbage. Even though I dont care much about cosmetics it's just a huge red flag in how they approach the design of the whole thing. I cant be assed with games that have daily chores, I'm too old for this shit.
I don't think you know what seasons mean in this context
>Managing cooldowns is zoomer gameplay
>teleporting around for instant gratification is zoomer gameplay
make of your minds, schizos
>fools and their money
No, I'll be playing a MAN'S dungeon crawler. Call me when D4 is $20 and they've fixed all the crashing.
Nope, it felt like a MMO to me. But it reignited my will to play D3 and specially D2. I'll buy that pack with the expansions for D3 and D2R and play both.
I'm replaying D3 and it's so different from what it used to be, the game was really unbalaced on hell mode and you needed to finish the game multiple times with multiple characters to reach the higher levels, now, you can choose the difficult you wish to start, which was great in my opinion.
You can level up pretty fast too, I was level 60 starting on Hell by the mid of the second chapter. If you play well the game will be nice to you.
Before it was so hard and difficult that you'd die all the time, without any chance to grind on higher levels.
>felt like an MMO
I felt the same thing when I logged into D2 with a bunch of other players running around killing shit.
looks like D4 is keeping up the tradition.
>I felt the same thing when I logged into D2 with a bunch of other players running around killing shit. looks like D4 is keeping up the tradition.
Yeah because D2 is mandatory open world where you just run into people running some generic quest/event all the time
>mandatory
is the only word that doesn't apply to D2, and even, doesn't matter since everyone played multiplayer and did the same generic quests over and over anyway.
it was an MMO with one extra step.
>8 player max size in a game
>massively multiplayer online
>massively
D3 is absolutely garbage dude. You idiots all try and say the exact same thing, that's how everyone knows your an intern so you can stop with the, d3 used to be bad but its good now bullshit. It's still terrible.
we all know there is no way this game will be better than mediocre with pay2win creeping in after some months as long as kotick and his bootlickers are in power
Why are Blizzdrones so retarded?
They'll buy this shit up like they do everything Blizzard plops out then spend the next six years coping about why it sucks.
Then they'll do it all over again with renewed hope.
Spending disposable income on entertainment is a pretty normal thing that employed people do. Get a job.
Spending money on objective dogshit is unwise and some would say retarded consoomerism.
i spend my disposable income on bullets, booze, and chud mannequins so i can shoot them up at the gun range
it doesnt work on my version of w10 ltsc and im not installing windows 11 for it
>right on cue with the reddit memes
seethe
>right on cue with the reddit memes
boomers shitting and pissing they can't just hold right click forever