Who are you going to main and what will be broken?
Are you going to play it bros?
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Let me guess, you have to pay money to play the beta.
No, that's why it's called an open beta. Early access is the paid one.
So you're telling me that both betas will cost money. Got it.
You have a severe mental illness
I'd just like to drop in and let you know the way you type is infuriating and has annoyed me so I wish you'd get hit by a runaway train or a speeding truck and it would just crush your stupid fucking limpdick body and splatter your braindead spastic head everywhere
Autist
Nope
learn to read
Reading comprehension of a Sub-Saharan 9 year old.
kind of
For a board that hates anything trans you guys sure are eager to slurp down trans fats
Want the Double Down
Don't want Diablo 4
Sell the code then. In other news preload is up.
Do you need to pay for open beta?
Skill issue.
Open beta is free, earl access open beta is 'free' if you purchase a sandwich at KFC, cheapest is just under $3
Can I order the sandwich and get early beta access outside of the US?
Better yet: Can I do this and still receive the sandwich somehow? Im ok with just getting early beta access for 3$ but ideally I'd want a sandwich too
t. Bong
It's a US only offer, but I dunno if you could convince an amerifat to buy a sandwich and just give you their code.
VPN + schedule pick up 5 days from now
wait for blizz email
cancel order
I just ordered and got my email confirmation, does the blizzard email with the code come instantly or?
I got it after like 20 minutes
NO FAIR TRADE VEGAN OPTION!? They don't know their target audience: me
you vill eat ze birdz
and you vill be happy
Im on a mostly pescatarian diet nowadays but sometimes I have chicken because I cant help it, its too good
Then I see a heartwarming video about someone owning pet chickens and I immediately feel bad.
Fuck this gay earth.
>pescatarian diet
yeah bro fish are totally brainless with a 3 second mem-
Holy shit. That's nice and cute. All animals are precious.
shes the same color as him
I dont eat the cute little fish
I only eat monsters with intelligence that would kill you if they could, like squid, octopus, eel etc.
Don't care, still eating animals
I'd almost feel bad but then remember that if these chickens were in the wild, they'd be some coyotes meal for the day anyway, so I may as well eat them since the end result for the chicken is the same.
btw for any bongs out there: you can get the early preorder beta for free if you have a phone contract with O2 or Virgin Media
>unironically "Don't you guys have phones"ing yet again
Thanks Blizzard
Let me guess, you are poor.
You don't have to pay with money you have to pay with clogged arteries
i haven't eaten KFC in like ten years, thank you blizzard for reminding me that this place is not worth eating at.
the worst sandwich i've eaten in ages.
You could've just ordered it, gotten the code, then cancelled the order.
i was curious to see how bad things have gotten.
it doesn't seem like they even actually cook the food anymore, they just get some wagie to chuck it into a microwave.
when did things get this bad?
Mine actually cook it, but they forget to get it out so it gets hard as a rock and has so much grease dripping off of it that you'd think their fryer baskets were solid instead of grated.
We have a few local fast food chains here. They're much better than the big ones and now the big franchises are just as expensive so there's no downsides anymore.
They have good buckets
Uninstall wizard
underrated post
kino choice.
>and what will be broken
the game
you just lost
>when anon is such a oldfag that nobody even knows what this means
we know. No it's a bit redundant on a vidya board where saying "the game" can apply to any post.
more fun when it's hidden in an image.
Idk I feel like it's gonna not be great
druid
No thanks If I wanted to feel like someone is gonna steal my money and ruin my day I'd just hang around morons instead
Anyone able to download the beta yet? When can we?
Didn't know that there was going to be open beta. Nice i hope the servers don't just crash for the whole weekend lol
I want to play it just to go through the story, but I don't have faith in Blizzard to make a good story line for it. I ultimately decided that I won't be buying this game for full price. The beta was not particularly fun.
I got the ultimate edition gifted by a friend so yes, I will kill Lilith
>what will be broken?
The login server. Happens everytime when Blizzard releases something new.
>buying Activision game
>current year
You're what's wrong with gaming
Yes. I hope they keep raping those sex slaves * cough * "devs". Take my money!
and that's a good thing
>buy activision game
>get to piss off Ganker, reddit and sjws at the same time
problem?
no monk
no buy
no crusader
no buy
pally or new holy class with $40 expansion
hardcore barbarian
I'm going to play the free open beta, then I'm NOT going to buy the game for a year or two and after and THEN if I liked the beta and the game hasn't been monetized to shit in the meantime I might get it and play around a bit.
>GaaS
>Lootboxes
>Skins
Miss me with this shit
Designed as a money making venture first and as a game second
>Lootboxes
There's no lootboxes.
yet
They will have cosmetics out the ass, battle passes and expansions. There's no reason for lootboxes.
>no reason
exactly why they'll include it.
buy a key for $2.49 for a chance at the Epic Tal'Rasha set!!
>seething about something Valve does on a non Valve game
Retard
They tried lootboxes in OW and it doesn't sell as well as just outright selling skins.
They also made lootboxes an integral game mechanic in Diablo Immortal where you could get up to 800% value by buying 10 lootboxes, enabling them all to be opened after 1 loot run!
40,000$ per hour for optimal gameplay!
Diablo Immortal is free otherwise… basically every f2p mobile game has these things. Are you a poe developer or something? How scare are you?
>buying a Blizzard game in 2023
How much gold do you have?
>blizz shit
No, I have some self-respect.
I don't have any hope for this franchise after playing 3
No way this will be good
3>2
Never had more heart pumping fun in Diablo than hardcore DH in high level rifts. You hardly played the game so I understand
Hardcore d2 hell is more heart-pumping, with no lifesaving passives and the possibility of dying in a split second. D3 also had so many difficulty options that you were in almost complete control of how much danger you were in
Yeah going to play the open beta and if it's fun I'll buy it. Not holding my breath since the game looks kinda mid from all the videos though.
No Paladin/Crusader
No buy.
All the classes look fucking gay
I just want to be a holy evil vanquisher, not some dumbass barbarian.
Check back 8-12 months after release and the holy archetype class DLC will be released.
Duh, how else will they get you to buy the DLCs?
Didn't former employees, who were fired, claimed that the games wasn't ready?
>no set items on release
>no runes in closed beta
>like 10 legendaries and 2 uniques per class in closed beta
You think?
Tanned female Barbarian
Yes, please.
If you don't play ssfhc you don't belong here.
Imagine giving your momeny to modern day Blizzard.
Imagine giving money to Blizzard post Diablo II
No
>darker reskinned 3
I will pass.
Ah yes, I will totally buy a game from a company that has done nothing but go downhill with this reskinned Diablo 3 game.
Fuck off.
This never happened btw
Wow got better
D3 blew d2 out of the water
Hearthstone is the best ccg
OW stomped TF2
Starcraft died because rts is a shit genre
I'll bite.
Wow only recently started getting better with DF after the trashfire that was everything post-legion, however all the pozz shit heavily weighs it down.
Not even the fully mazed D3-tards believe this. It's a good game now but D2 is timeless.
Hearth-who ? BTFO by fucking shadowverse of all games.
TF2 is going as strong as ever and OW declines further every day.
Can't talk for starcraft, but you're a gay anyway.
I'll even throw in HotS, that one indeed is the best MOBA, but the retards decided to throw that away.
in summary, have a nice day.
>D3 blew d2 out of the water
D2R has more active players than D3. People will still be playing d2 in 10 years while D3s servers will be shut down
Take the funko pop out your ass and see the light, brother
Always online DRM=no buy
is this shit going to be online only? or can I play without xXxGodSlayerxXx zooming past me in his gacha gear?
I don't have a code and the KFC offer is exclusive to americans
It's over (for a week)
Did you try buying a menu for pickup with a vpn and never collect it.
I'm playing the open beta cause its free but not buying the game for 2 reasons, 1 being modern blizzard, 2 that even if the openbeta proves me wrong and the game is good, its just too expensive in my 3rd world currency
Being an Actiblizz "fan" in current year should be considered a mental illness
I was a blizzdrone. They think it's a meme.
Every time I think of buying d4 I remember that it's present day and just buying the game won't be enough.
It might be fucking good, but I'm too poor for it.
If you're really that poor you shouldn't be playing video games at all.
I'm not really poor but modern games are literally designed to suck up as much money as possible.
Sure, you can just buy the game and enjoy it, but it's still not a complete experience.
And god forgive you if you want to have a complete experience from a video game you bought, while playing other games and having other hobbies. It just sucks up all the money and time.
Battle passes, season passes, dlc and cashshop.
Having something like that in a game for full price was literally unacceptable 5 years ago.
>Battle passes, season passes, dlc and cashshop.
You can just ignore the premium pass and the cash shop since it's all cosmetics. The normal battle pass(the one that matters) will always be free, and DLC/expansion won't come out for like 1 year.
Why the fuck are you defending this shit?
Of all the companies blizzard are the last to deserve "well that's the only way to get updates without subscription" attitude considering how cheap their production is and how rare the updates are.
Yet people still work there. It's almost as if working for a particular game studio is entirely by choice and if you didn't want said "prestige" you could just go work somewhere else.
>and how rare the updates are
This is exactly what they want to change with D4 and why the monetization is the way that it is. They want to mimic the PoE approach of having one big patch with every new season every 3 months.
The patches are meant to include storylines, sidequests, a new area, new items, new legendaries, 1 new big gameplay mechanic, new cosmetics, new achievements/events, etc. etc.
>This is exactly what they want to change with D4
Yeah, sure.
The moment d4 unsurprisingly fails to achieve fortnite success they cancel all plans and just do the necessary minimum.
Sorry but you sound literally like blizzard bot so if you're not one at least lower your expectations a bit.
>You can just ignore the premium pass and the cash shop since it's all cosmetics
They expect people to pay SEVENTY FUCKING DOLLARS for the game. The absolute LEAST people should be getting in return is an actual complete game, in which you unlock content by PLAYING, not PAYING. Your attitude is literally the reason we are in this fucking mess in the first place. "Oooh, the horse armor is just cosmetic, don't worry about it goyim". Fuck off you cunt.
>The absolute LEAST people should be getting in return is an actual complete game, in which you unlock content by PLAYING, not PAYING
You can get cosmetics from just playing the game too. They have specifically said that they do not want the cash shop cosmetics to be objectively better looking, they just want them to be different. They even gave a couple of examples and every thread on here was 50/50 on which ones looked better between free vs premium.
>They have specifically said
Blizzards promises are worth nothing.
It's going to be live service. Have some self control there guy. All those cosmetics just sit on a shelf and never get used. Most of the good content is accessible as drops in game. I haven't seen a cosmetic yet that was that interesting or worth a price tag. I understand you might feel cheated but it's the only way we're going to get new content without being expected to pay a sub fee.
What's the box cost paying for then?
Genshin Impact is a live service with a major patch every six weeks. You know how much it costs to download? $0.
If you're including MTX then the game better be fucking free to justify that.
Played genshin for a day and got bored. Looking up skirts in vidya is really shallow entertainment.
>Played genshin for a day and got bored.
Great that you didn't lose any money from it then and don't regret a $70 entry fee?
There is an open beta. You don't have to pay a cent. The whole world should know by now. If you're too lazy or dumb to figure out how to download and try when it's available then you're probably too young or stupid to play video games in the first place.
unlike diablo genshin is an actual gacha...
>genshin is an actual gacha...
Yeah... that's because it's a live service... how else do you expect to pay for the regular updates...?
>and just buying the game won't be enough
What do you mean by this?
I'm not buying anything that's made by Blizzard or Activision.
eat shit
this
>replacing white npcs with morons in wow instead of just introducing a moron focused area that has a logical reason for them to exist
>having writers on the team that unironically tweet shit like "white people must be stopped"
yeah you can go fuck yourself blizzard, it's over forever
Why the fuck would you pay Blizzard $70 for consolized and dumbed down trash?
Oh boy, I bet you can't wait to raise your Attack stat and maybe your Defense stat whooooaa thrilling gameplay
>70€ for standard edition
sorry but i'm not paying console game prices for digital only PC games.
most likely playing druid but barb/necro also look cool, i like the look of the necro blood spells
Is there going to be an offline, console version?
D3 was always online bro, they ain't walking this shit backwards
Not on consoles, you could play offline just fine
D2R had offline mode
It's open world so like mmo-lite. There will be no offline mode.
Back to D2R, then
I ate the most disgusting sandwich in my life for my beta code.
I’m ready to play bros
If I want to play Chinese Diablo with pay to win then I'll just play Lost Ark instead and save myself the box cost.
>pay to win
There's like two dozen things to complain about with D4 that are legit and valid complaints, so why do people like you feel the need to just outright lie?
Because I don't listen to a word Blizzard says after they promised Diablo Immortal wouldn't sell power.
They're lying fucks and I assume the worst, and if you defend them I won't believe you either.
I hope the company goes out of business before the merger completes.
Petless necro caster or whirlwind barb
>petless necro
Not a thing in D4.
>The goal for the class' system was that players are able to play with the full army, part of the army, or even forgo their army completely and play solo.[1] The Book of the Dead feature remains beneficial to builds without any minions.
I'll just replay D2 again.
I will play it and all you can do is mald, and the new way of grinding weapons/bis is the best thing ever, imagine farming the top tier affixes on rare/magic item and you slap on a legendary weapon affix
i will enjoy the grind greatly
>buy Last Epoch
>all the best parts of Diablo 2 with some great new ideas added in
>not owned by Tencent
>not an ARPG stripped down to 4 stats
We're going to hear about this game nonstop for 1-3 months and then it'll die off.
>and then it'll die off
Diablo 3 managed to live on for 10 years with extremely minimum support.
Sure it'll still harbor a community of hardcore blizdrones, but like Overwatch 2 it's not going to have a public presence.
I guess it depends on what you mean by public presence. Would you consider PoE to have a public presence?
no, PoE has very much left the public eye
Yeah, I'd probably agree. Though I do think that if they manage to nail the PoE-like seasons with D4, then it could be the kind of game where it continually swoops back into the public eye for a month or so every 3-4 months. It depends entirely on how well they do with the seasons.
>Though I do think that if they manage to nail the PoE-like seasons with D4, then it could be the kind of game where it continually swoops back into the public eye for a month or so every 3-4 months
PoE doesn't do that, it worked the first three times, but after that it started driving people away, now no one gives a shit about PoE.
what are you smoking?
Cry about it, gay. PoE used to have a thriving community of people interested in enjoying the game, now it's just e-sport racing for a few days.
Wha he
said, PoE is past its prime, those "players" are people logging back in or trying it out only to find out the game is too much to get into at this point. Eventually everyone will have looked and you will never again see such a spike.
>inb4 b-b-b-b-b-but it has 13k players right now!
It's free, welcoming in bot accounts and children without money alike, when PoE 2 drops it'll shoot up again but also have a far worse fall.
>now it's just e-sport racing for a few days.
funny because they removed the esports racing seasons 5 years ago
>thriving community of people interested in enjoying the game
Used to have a thriving community of paypiggies oink oink
>it worked the first three times
The delusion of the average blizzdrone
>PoE doesn't do that
They kept getting 150k concurrent players on Steam every 3-4 months, which would place them in the top 5 played games.
>no, PoE has very much left the public eye
Another game saved
ruined*
PoE went from being 10x better than anything Blizzard could shit out, to 10x worse than release Diablo 3.
>PoE went from being 10x better than anything Blizzard could shit out, to 10x worse than release Diablo 3
in reality the quality of the game hasn't really changed much at in all in of this time it's just the people who got tired of it left after they put their 500 hours in
>left after they put their 500 hours in
A guy in another thread was like
>I put 17k hours in and now i don't like the game anymore
No shit you fucking autismo you played it for 17k hours. T0R82
>not an ARPG stripped down to 4 stats
Reminder that D2, universally beloved by people, literally only ever had 4 stats too.
Tell me, how many stats do you see in this picture? Note, there is a right answer.
1, vitality
Correct.
Not that guy, but STR(only enough to wear gear) and VIT pump.
>attributes
Fuck off, that's like the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre.
that's been debunked
Strength and Dex for whatever gear you want to have.
The only true stat is Vitality.
>Energy
1, maybe 2 for certain builds
Diablo 2
>Damage, Attack Rating, Defense, Block, Life, Samina, Mana, Mana regeneration
Diablo 3
>Damage, Armor, Life
Maybe we can get rid of stats all together in Diablo 5 and make it a twin stick shooter. I'd welcome it for a change.
>inb4 NOOOOO THOSE DON'T COUNT
Let me just pre-emptively accept your concessions.
>everything we listed are separate things
>everything in your picture is life, damage, and armor
the problem with d3 is that none of those actually matter, you just want main stat + critdmg + crit chance + socket + either areamdg/resource cost/cdr depending on build
Please take a squishy build on the higher rifts and tell me your defensive stats don't matter
>Adventure stats
>entire game is sitting in town opening rifts
Yeah, a lot of adventuring there.
>We're going to hear about this game nonstop for 1-3 months and then it'll die off
Anon, Wolcen still gets updates. ARPGs are pretty goddamn resilient. I also hope that Last Epoch comes out good enough to be my main ARPG since it's more complex than Diablo but not as autistic as PoE, but echoes are kind of boring as they are now.
>Wolcen still gets updates
Wolcen has less players than Grim Dawn and massive performance issues.
Yeah, Grim Dawn also has community support thanks to modding and is generally a good game. That's why I used Wolcen as an example instead, it's way more dead than Grim Dawn.
>Grim Dawn
man, i wish that game didn't feel like shit. i hate that i have to choose between games that feel good to play like Lost Ark and D3, and games with actually satisfying RPG mechanics like Grim Dawn and PoE. either the combat feels fantastic and the RPG elements are mediocre, or the RPG elements are fantastic and the combat feels like shit.
Last Epoch could have both with 1.0 if they put a lot of work into the hit effects and movement, but I'm not sure they have the expertise to do it. At least their patch notes show that they understand why their combat doesn't feel like shit.
LE has been in early garden gnomecess for a long time now and still feels worse than Grim Dawn
>and still feels worse than Grim Dawn
Not that guy, but that's not true at all. There's plenty of builds in Last Epoch that can go fast and feel fun. There's no builds in GD that can go fast and feel fun.
>There's no builds in GD that can go fast and feel fun.
DW Purifier?
this is reassuring, hopefully they'll keep polishing the game up. i haven't tried it in probably a year, i should probably reinstall it and see what it's like now.
They just added multiplayer 2 days ago.
>playing anything at launch anymore
i've learned my lesson, i'll pick it up in a couple months after whatever the launch crisis is gets fixed. lol
This is a pretty great year for ARPGs, and none of it is due to Actiblizz or D4
I have options now so I don't need to play this garbage
>I have options now
Such as?
Anyone selling their KFC codes online for 3-5 eur? No way i'm paying 70 eur for a closed beta for a game I likely won't even enjoy.
just wait a week and play the free beta weekend
RE4 Remake is out the day before that and between that and some WoW raids I don't see myself playing the open betea much, maybe give it a go but it'll probs have massive queues so we'll see.
the laugh at blizzdrone goycattle class
i was thinking of maining ATK but DEF lookin pretty litty no cap
What's the difference to eHP and total DPS?
ehp is the result of any number of defensive layers culminating in a complicated equation that gives you an estimated real health pool, vs just having one stat determining how much damage you take
dps is the result of any number of offensive layers like bleed, crit, area damage, affects to enemy defenses, elemental type, measured against enemy defensive layers to give an estimated dps number assuming perfect play. atk is just number up good make happy play
Doesn't look any different. One is on the item, the other on a third party program.
the difference isn't the end result, it's how you get there. it takes thinking to get high levels of ehp, you have to understand the systems and balance your character to have enough of each defensive layer so they synergise. with def you just get the one stat and you're good.
for me, it's hybrid attack/defense. i'm a pretty complicated person and i prefer a versatile character because of that, it lets me express my personality through the game, so yeah i'll be going for a more higher skill capped build
Its hard to have a power fantasy when the druid looks like it had one too many trips to mc donalds.
Yup, bought the deluxe edition!
I was so burned by D3/D4/PoE that it'll take a lot of convincing for me to buy anything from those franchises. I learned my lesson preodering D3.
I was salty enough that I just decided to make my own Diabloclone instead
I hope you'll make it.
On a second thought, having a condensed stat on your item might make it more possible to balance things out and not turn everything into a one-shot fiesta. I'll wait and see how things pan out. Not really convinced that eHP and total DPS is straight up better any more.
>I hope you'll make it.
thanks anon, i hope so too
turns out making games is harder than i gave people credit for
Pretty sure that the gear power mainstat build will be broken
>playing blizzchud games
nah man I'm not chopping my dick off
Entering a thread and leaving downvotes is a strong contender for chudism.
>downvotes
chud what the fuck are you talking about fucking have a nice day you actual mentally ill chud
Alright what do we have here, right. I'd say you take your meds again, and stop entering threads of games and topics you know you don't like. Alright, best of lucky, and here is another lolly for you.
Up until they made wild changes. The first day might be big numbers, but hours later it's gone. The game had its prime.
>The first day might be big numbers, but hours later it's gone.
not only is that the same for every season, it's also the same for almost every game (except for specific examples like MMos like WoW in 2004 where it grew in playerbase over years). also in movies most of the money is made from cinema tickets in the opening weekend. it's a standard characteristic of any kind of product that has marketing and a release day and people are waiting for it to come out and then everyone gets together on release and experiences it and then inevitably eventually stops playing it. it's not a sign of quality really at all. if anything if a game keeps you playing for a year it's probably predatory and is some cancerous gacha shit, OR it's something incredible like elden ring
>it's also the same for almost every game
Not even close, gay.
moron name any random game and chances are it has peak players at launch followed by a drop off after a period of time roughly equivalent to time taken to beat the game or time taken to reach the point that most players are done with the game. exceptions are games that periodically do big updates that bring players back in, like terraria, or early access games that get big player boosts on final 1.0 releases
>name any random game that fits my specific criteria
Fuck off, retard. I fucking hope this is an elaborate troll.
you act like poe season dropoffs after day 1 are a new thing and are a sign of dropping quality but the player stats show that it's always been a thing
>but the player stats show that it's always been a thing
moron your image fucking shows it wasn't a thing for THREE YEARS, the player base was steadily climbing until 2017 when they released the first season that brought in race-exclusive content.
Now every month the game's numbers spike for a few days before returning to nothing
the minimum player numbers now is higher than it ever was pre-2017. the 'stable' pool of autists who play all league every league and don't play anything else has increased in size. all that seasons did was increase the frequency of the 'unnatural states' ie the peaks. the quality of the game has gone up over time which is why the peaks and minimums have increased over time
PoE will always be a P2W nightmare
>P2W
do you have a single fact to back that up?
I played it and won by paying.
>playing anything more than just the main campaign requires more stash tabs
>costs money to get them
>without them you'll be extremely under powered
B-B-B-B-But you can play without them!
You just need to have 3000 hours in the game in order to be extremely selective with the items you decide to keep!
oh noo you have to spent 5 bucks to buy a currency tab to play a game that people play for 10,000 hours what a ripoff
>PoE is p2w
>how so
>tabs
>yeah okay it's p2w so what
No idea how people swear on PoE not being pricy as hell. If you buy the necessary tabs to make the experience bearable, you probably pay just as much. Can't imagine that you get away cheaper than 70 buying the tabs, unless you wait for several sales.
it's not pay2win it's pay to play under the guise of a free game and the amount you have to pay is 5-10 bucks. you're not paying for an advantage, you're paying to get access to the baseline experience intended by the devs. everything else is cosmetic shit that doesn't give power.
>you're not paying for an advantage, you're paying for an advantage
an advantage over who? what poorfag can't pay 10 bucks for some stash tabs but can afford a computer and internet connection? shit is cheap as fuck. you can literally get everything you need for 10 bucks and then play 500 hours easily, compare that to most other games and the value proposition is insane. what ggg should do is charge 10 bucks for the game as baseline, and then just give you those tabs, just to stop disingenuous bitching from poorfags who would pay the 10 anyway
That would be great, that would also stop disingenuous bitching from poedrones who can't admit the game is p2w.
if having a currency tab that everyone else also has because it costs 5 bucks and you would only need it after you've already sunk 20 hours into the game, then sure it's pay2win, whatever
jsut to add, compare that to fucking hogwarts or some other shit AAA game that wants 60 USD or more, and you get 15-20 hours out of it, and then you uninstall it because there's no endgame or reason to keep playing after you 100% it. the value of POE is ridiculously high
No one is discussing whether the game to money needed ratio is good, everyone agrees it is. We are talking about whether the game is truly f2p or not.
>whether the game is truly f2p or not.
that's not what people are syaing though, they are sayingits p2w. i 100% agree that it's not truly free to play, i would agree with
as i said before it's buy to play, and the buy to play is stash tabs. but once you have that baseline purchase the rest of the game there's nothing else to buy except cosmetics
>NO! STOP SAYING IT IS WHAT IT IS!!! ITS NOT BECAUSE I NEED IT NOT TO BE!!!!!
this amoutn of copium is pathetic
on par with lazy peon sitting there crying about p2w asian games, then proceeding to pay for faction change, story skip, level skip, etc etc
like, moron, you're the problem
poe is very pay to win, you get farther, faster, and easier with money, end of story
>poe is very pay to win, you get farther, faster, and easier with money, end of story
wat? did you even played it? is this bait?
>tabs
Just RMT bro
>muh stash tabs
Yeah, stash tabs are the price of entry. Playing without stash tabs is the trial version of PoE. It's not P2W, it's B2P.
>pay money
>win the game
It's that simple
wish i could kill uber sirus by just having a currency tab that'd be sweet
>I SAID NO IT'S NOT REAL BECAUSE IT'S NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yet you won't see a single player who has beaten uber sirus without bought tabs. Very interesting!
>people who like the game enough to play and reach the toughest content will spend money on qol
Ok.
you won't find a single player who has more than 30 hours played that doesn't have stash tabs either, because it's required and a basic standard thing that every player has which means you don't have any advantage over anyone else. unless you think having stash tabs is what makes a 500 hours player have an advantage over someone with 3 hours played who just got to act 2. yep that's what makes the 500 hours guy better at the game, it's the stash tabs
play in a group dummy. you wont have to worry as much about good shit dropping
this. i dont rape women.
>i dont rape women
then you're not a man.
A single player always online game.
Yes I need more of these in my life.
Games are too plentiful these days to waste my time on stupid ones.
It's gonna flop
i bought it dont care if its shit
preload starts in 3 hours
lets go boiiiiiiissssssssssssssss
I just got my account flagged for beta access, how do you know when Preload kicks in?
>how do you know when Preload kicks in?
They'll announce it on their Twitter.
my guess is it'll be around 8pm pacific today
please please please passive aoe aura build 😀
Only touching the game if it has local co-op, zero interest otherwise.
what? are you guys poor?
>sullying your hard drive with blizzardslop
>in the year 2023
anyone who does this is legit brain damaged
>listen to people in the Last Epoch discord
>everyone who is interested in Diablo 4 has played Immortal and goes back to PoE for the monthly esport race
I already preordered but I'll still play the betas.
diablo 3 was so shit the franchise is dead to me
I've no faith in blizz anymore.
>got fucked by inflation last year
>budget is gigatight, basically rent+food+few drinking evenings with friends
>end of salary adjustment cycle
>my promotion considered but not confirmed
>24th is the deadline for announcement
I hope i get to play it
I never played diablo 1 or 2 and I only played diablo 3 while being carried by friends and didn't really enjoy it.
Still I bought Diablo 4 to play with friends and druid looks really fun and interesting. Sucks the first beta doesn't have them, so I guess I'll be trying rogue out. Not a ARPG guy normally, but not many good games to play with friends these days so I'll take it.
i'm going to play the beta but that's it, there is no universe where a nublizz game is A. good and B. worth $70. i'm mostly just morbidly curious how bad it's going to be. chances are it'll be passable being built on the bones of D3 but resoundingly mediocre but i'm also expecting a trainwreck. beyond gameplay i'm also expecting it to be an incoherent woke nightmare.
also it will be very funny when the beta is successful and blizz boasts about the playercount only for launch day to arrive and they can't even reach half of those numbers lmfao
No one who made D1, D2 or D3 is still at Blizzard. They are all gone. Why the fuck do you think a bunch of devs with no experience in making an ARPG is going to make a good ARPG?
Sam Didier is still at Blizzard.
I'll try the open beta, probably make a Druid first but I'll try out every class if I can.
looking forward to it like I'm looking forward to new Bioware games
never gonna play them but I'm anticipating an entertaining shitshow
im not giving a single cent to nu-blizzard
>D3's seasons remain a comfy reason to come back and fuck around
>PoE's make the game worse with each "league"
>PoE2 looks like vaporware
>D4 is shaping up to be a mix of D2 and D3, room for more comfy seasons
Arpg kino is back
>>PoE's make the game worse with each "league"
But the last league was the most popular in a while?
All the forums had to spam "remove archnemesis" for 6 months straight for that to happen.
Good thing they listened then.
>D4 is shaping up to be a mix of D2 and D3, room for more comfy seasons
i see plenty of d3, i have yet to see anything resembling d2 other than the art style. and even the art style has the muddy coloring of d3 where everything melds together.
Im going to wait for the OPEN beta
>no paladin
>only 4 classes
Pass. Diablo just ain’t fun for me unless I’m playing a holy warrior smiting demons. Probably gonna add it as a dlc and make the paladin a chud or something, for the low price of $29.99
wasn't that how Diablo 3 was? they launched the game without a Paladin and added Crusader later? is Paladin Blizzard's Akuma? they hold that guy back to guarantee DLC sales? lol
unironically yes.
also with d4 have character customisation including skin colour they can't force everyone to play a Black paladin which means the game will be filled with white blonde paladins called DeusVult_
being held back for DLC is a sad feel, but i am a big fan of them including a character editor because holy shit do i hate racelocked classes.
Do I need ps+ to try it on PS4?
Which character gets brought back first with DLC?
>crusader
>monk
>amazon
What class has the hottest grills? Rogue?
>hottest grills
>modern day blizzard games
Overwatch is pornhub the game
that's an "overwatch only" case my dude. Everything else is full of chud looking chicks.
someone posted a very nice necromancer thread yesterday, so I'm going with necro
Silver blonde hair looks so nice with pale skin, I hope at least 1 nu-game does not fuck them both up with retarded lighting
Apparently a full pet necro isn't viable cause they do fuck all dps so you have to play a shitty caster with useless pets just like WD in D3.
>can't just afk and watch youtube while your minions do all the work
minioncucks on suicide watch
whats wrong with that
idk nothing im just shitposting. tbf i enjoy summon raging spirit in poe, as a more active summon spell that you have to regularly cast but they are still minions that auto target mobs
I don't play minions, but I understand why one would want to play them. Removing archetype is retarded
i doubt the archetype will be removed tbh i'm sure you can go full skelly army build, maybe someone with closed beta can confirm
People from beta say they can tank but do no dps
From what I could tell, not really. Minions are a core part of the class and buff certain dark spells that obviously have nodes to synergize with them. You're still going to be actively casting even if you don't opt to sacrifice any of your minion types.
Still better than the PoE minion build which is SRS and barely feels like a minion build. At least Last Epoch's good Necromancer builds primarily use their minions even if it's based around sacrificing them or attacking your own minions.
>implying any ARPG class is actually hard to play
>implying actobliz will make any class hard to play
>shitty caster with useless pets just like WD in D3.
WD had a very strong pet build for a few seasons
what is WD even? thats a class i never bothered with
I already have been for a long time
steam release?
fucking hell, i hope so. it's been so comfy having MW2 on Steam for MP and Cold War on Steam for Zombies.
lmfao
beta launch in australia is 2:30 am for me fucking americans
I will play all classes max level and literally go full hardcore nolife on D4 for the betas and the first few days of release like in the good old WoW vanilla times.
So far I will most likely go with this
Beta 1
>Thief
>Mage
>Warrior
Beta 2
>Necro
>Druid
It's only the first act in the beta, so I will most likely finish this "challenge" on day 1.
In the end game I will play the classes in the hierarchy of fun, but so far most likely
>Necro
>Mage
>Thief
>Druid
>Warrior
With maining I have no clue. Maining is all about end game grind and it simply depends on what character is the most fun to grind endgame with.
For example even if I think the warrior is the most boring class, I would main a warrior if the endgame farm is the most comfy with warrior.
But tbf, I'm only in it for the release hype. That's why I bought the most expensive version. I know the next Diablo will take at least 5+ years and I want to experience a full new Blizzard game release just one more time.
I wouldn't be surprised if I quit D4 after a week or a month forever. But I know that this short period will be giga comfy. Sure, streamers and social media pretty much ruined online gaming and I won't write or do anything in Diablo that can identify me, because everything will be recorded by some fucking streamer. But I will enjoy this maybe even last Blizzard experience from start to finish, no matter how trash the cash shop will be later on or how much worthless trash is in the game.
beta 1
barb
rogue
sorc
beta 2
druid
necro
release
most likely maining druid or barb, i like direct damage melee hits with big weapons, i like to get in there and feel the weight behind my button presses. the rogue looks like the least appealing class to me because it's so fancy and has a bunch of indirect shit like traps. but will have to wait and see when i get my hands on it.
also i will be playing with my fren who is 100% going sorceress so i wanna play something that matches well with that for duo gameplay, which is most likely a tanky melee style character like druid or barb so that should work out well
it's probably not even 1/4 of the first act if d3 beta is anything to go by
I was considering paying one of my US friends to grab me a code.
Thinking of doing the VPN cancel thing, do I need to make an account or anything like that?
when i ordered they didn't send the code to my email until i had walked into the store to pick the order up.
i've heard people say you could just call in to the store and tell them to keep the food and just send you the key.
I think you need an account if you want to cancel
no account needed if you don't mind wasting $3
got a free beta code by just pre order and cancel to try it out
bought last epoch instead
kfc wagies must be seething
they didn't let me refund the chicken sammy
No way i'm pre-purchasing but i'll give the open beta a try. I haven't liked this isometric RPG point and click shit tho because they're always "hold this power that flashbang the screen and kill everything on sight while dodging the shit in the ground" mindless garbage. But let's see.
Guys I can't decide...do I play an ATTACK or a DEFENSE build?
attack. If shit isnt dying, you arent progressing.
you play FULL UNGA no BUNGA
defense. If youre dying, you arent progressing.
>what will be broken
Burn/meteor sorc felt really good in the beta. Tons of DR against burning enemies plus channeling bonuses since I was mainly channeling Incinerate and I didn't need to use a resource generator because of the resource gain when hitting burned enemies. It could even slot teleport since Meteor is auto cast by burn ticks with its enchantment and didn't need to be cast manually.
I’ll play it or not depending on what people say about it. D3 was hot steaming garbage.
>online only
can't wait for the servers to eventually die off when blizzards done milking it so you can't play it again, depriving you of the ownership rights you paid for
meanwhile you can still play original d1 and 2 anytime
GaaS was a mistake
it's such a shame too because D3 could be a truly incredible 10/10 ARPG with some modding. there's nothing wrong with it that can't be fixed.
would have been interesting to see something like MedianXL in d3
>with some modding
I guess if you completely redid every system in the game it could be decent
Do i get to play a hot female necromancer?
early access beta is only barb, rogue and sorc but the everybody beta is those 3 + druid and necro
thanks O2 for the free early access
When does it actually start, the time?
you can just pre order any console version at your local store to get a free code
the code let's you pick whatever platform you like
cancel your pre order when you got your code
>what will be broken?
Barbarian and Wiz are always broken in early lifespan after that it just random depending on what set blizzard buffed this patch (wiz stays broken no matter what)
Basically just like WoW
I wouldn't be surprised if people cry about some classes being weak vs bosses but they have higher single target skills unlocked at later levels
singer barb gameplay
The chicken sandwich I bought will probably be the best thing about the game
For the price of a diablo 4 beta code, you can get yourself a nice greasy chicken meal.. which you will enjoy much more
beta weekend preload is up bros, 80gb
>80GB
*if you want 4K textures. it's 40gb without
Why would you not want 4k textures? Don't tell me you're a graphicscardlette.
it literally tells you the high pack is for people playing on 4k displays + ultra settings.
see
Installed and ready to go, captain
>paying money for a F2P game
you guys are so cucked
I just did like a REALLLY bad blow off in my trousers and it kinda reminds me of Diablo 4™ which i did NOT prepurchase (pic rel is the food i ate that did some havoc on my guts, leading to the aforementioned APOCALYPTIC flatulence...)
after the retardation of diablo 3 i'm gonna wait and see. I hate the whole MMO lite aspect of it.
>I hate the whole MMO lite aspect of it.
i'd be more okay with it if it meant better endgame than doing rifts, something a little more dynamic that uses the mmo-lite aspects could be cool. my fear though is it's just going to turn into WoW m+ raiding which only 1% of poopsocking gays like.
Sorry Ganker, I shitpost against WoW all day every day with you but I had to buy it on the off chance that it doesn't completely blow
I NEED something to play with friends long term that is not fucking LoL ARAMs or I will kill myself
what are the odds of us getting a white chad paladin,crusader or templar as DLC?
with the lore from d3 pallies are dark skinned because they're still from the area that has them but the og pallies that went east instead found the whites to make their successors which is where crusaders came from.
Since you can customize the looks of your character it probably won't matter though
nope
>at least 10 friends have bought it
>certain some of them bought the $90 version
>they haven't played blizz games in years
get ready for D4 to surpass D3's numbers, dominate the Arpg genre for years, and for Ganker to choke on its "go woke, go broke" parroting
So far out side of the nog over representation, I haven't seen much woke in d4. But I've only seen basic level shit.
>"go woke, go broke" parroting
Everything blizzard sells well because of the cum guzzling audience. For years though KEK. That's beyond delusional.
Witch hunter or infiltrator for my first gd character?
Blade spirit seems like fun so I wanna play a build that uses it until d4's open beta at least
THEY PUT A BROWSER INSIDE A GAME
I don't mind the mmo aspects because it's extremely low commitment and lets you feel a little more permanence to the world. Kinda like how you can see the spirit of players running around in the souls games. Anyway, Rogue isn't cooler than the Demon Hunter.
I thought she looked like this. Fuck you.
I think she's just all red from being revived and bathed in the blood of the sacrifices from that one video
Will play beta but I'm coming with very low expectations. You can't fool me with flashy graphics. I presume it's gonna be fun for few hours/days and into the trash it goes. D4 is basically D3 with better graphics and expanded character building (which was lackluster to begin with) and semi-open world like lost ark/diablo immortal. Cash shop day 1, battle pass and as much cash grab shit as they can fit/they can get away with. Game as a service bullshit.
Be honest, if it was named anything else it would be as impactful as wet fart.
>if it was named anything else
nah, last Epoch has tentative interest around it and it barely works properly.
If D4 was announced under a different name, it would be considered the second coming of D2 and Ganker would be calling anyone not hyped a chud.
as an ARPG noob last epoch looks better to me. D4 obviously has better graphics but the combat and builds look funner in last epoch. I'm not sure what you think the big appeal of D4 would be asides from again the graphics.
boring gameplay
wait so there's a head start, for a BETA? that only last a few days?
This game is going to suck.
i don't think it's a head start, i think it's just early access gives you another weekend to play before everyone else. it looks like it's just live for the two weekends, not from the 16th to the 26th or whatever
>barbarians
>the tribe of mountain men
>are morons now
>previous morons
>were paladins
>haling from a warm, rainy jungle forest
>walking with heavy plate armor in a muddy jungle
blizz pls
At least the former is closer to the mud huts you want them to come from.
in lore they just sent out priests to convert others to their religion and got wrecked by monsters and bandits and shit which is why they trained the paladins. Also walking A3 there are plenty of non muddy looking areas
Why the fk do these gays release a beta weekend literally MONTHS before the game comes out. Huur duur play my game for 3 days before all your characters are reset so you can be an autist and powergame the game before it comes out.