>GLUG GLUG GLUG YOUTUBE MAN wiener SO GOOD GLUG GLUG
Give me your tags. I better see you pre order the super limited edition, and buy all the Souls game collectors for scalp pricing
i must have missed it
did ac4 and beyond really have hard lock-ons?
1 year ago
Anonymous
yes, but it can be broken by zooming out of view since turning speed is still a thing.
and the ac6 trailer showed combat against fast opponents or acs.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It did, but it wasn't as "hard" as it is in Souls. If the target broke your lock, you wouldn't get snapped 180 to track them, it would simply stop your lock-on. It was also extremely shit, since you didn't want your mobility yanked away from you by a fricking enemy QB.
Turning seems much faster in this than in any of the other games.
It's really inconsistent. It almost feels like when you're in combat you have to use quick turns like AC4/4A, but then out of combat when you're just moving around the player just instantaneously flips directions 90+ degrees like it's Monster Hunter
Pretty sure its just your normal Action Game lock-on "focus locked on enemy" type of thing just a bit looser then Souls where its always middle of the screen. I'm hoping this is a toggle-able option, because I like having full control of my mecha at all times in AC games, but if not I'll get used to it I guess.
Zelda is 6 gorillion times better than Dark israelites. FromShit has never made a good game. Come find me when they make a a game that doesn’t depend on artificial difficulty, gimmicks, bloat, and bullshit. Till then keep dilating and taking your HRT
Good call, he thinks he's the authority on Souls because homosexuals liked his voice now he wants to lead his flock of sheep to Armoured Core, hope that game has their own Vaati
Good call, he thinks he's the authority on Souls because homosexuals liked his voice now he wants to lead his flock of sheep to Armoured Core, hope that game has their own Vaati
>moronic subhuman Fromdrone e-celeb cannot help but see Soulslike in fricking everything
I wish the most painful death on this bigger and that Vaatihomosexual. Oh they both also blindly shilled the DeS Demake.
They probably didn't know it's the other way around too, and that Souls games borrow from AC.
based ravens, frick that normie c**t, I never understood how vaatihomosexual got such huge although blind following
Yes, because they would be absolutely shit in real combat situations.
So if your willing to ignore that, you should also ignore everything else, because robot melee is no less bizarre.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah, quadrupeds won every war against bipeds. Sad stuff.
>developers reiterate over and over and over and fricking over: this is not a Souls game, it plays like AC >dumbfrick ecelebs: duhhhhh it has lockon and dodging so it's Souls
I wonder if you get all your money back if you sell parts. I thought that was easily one of the worst parts of the games I tried from this series. Permanent choice is good.
i like it
but considering how ac games always had an expansion pack that changed the equipment menu, do you think from will change the ui again for AC6 expansion?
The way I see it everyone at the start of the dumbass controversy came out thinking they won.
People like FightingCowboy are vindicated because people were saying shit would be fricking melee dodgerolling mecha souls and whatever while gays like Vaati are happy at calling it soulslike just because of a stagger system and telegraphed boss attacks.
FightingCowboy is moronic
I’d never heard of him till he said “parries in a game, yknow parries are my thing, i’m like the parry guy” and then went on to claim the hitbox parry FFXVI has is dogshit
The original Armored Core was hopscotch simulator, the only impressive part of the game were the customization options. Any deviation from the original gameplay formula is a step in the right direction.
My guess is that he heard there was going to be a retrieval mechanic or a rally mechanic, which could kinda work in AC, but it isn't going to be a fricking adventure game. The issue is that you can strip down mechanics of a dark souls game and say shit like "oh the currency is also the experience so it's soulslike", it's moronic
Yeah the truth is Vaati just kept backpedalling until he reached a point where he could say he was right.
His stance is now basically "there are stagger bars like sekiro and telegraphed boss attacks and lockon like in souls so its soulslike" when at the start of all this, before "legitimizing" himself by actually getting familiar with the series, he first assumed it would be a slow ass openworld melee mechasouls roll+parry game
It has a hard lock-on and a stagger system with a bar like in Sekiro, pretty much the only "souls like" shit in the demo they showed.
Sekiro has no stagger, Sekiro has deathblows.
Sekiro also has no different melee weapons.
The only similarity to Sekiro is that the stance bar is visible, and it's only possible because unlike Souls games Armored Core has no different types of stagger, including one specifically on enemy attacks.
It's far closer to Souls games
>Sekiro has no stagger
how do you do a deathblow without doing HP damage
that's right
stagger bar >w-well ackshully it's STANC-
and if you break the stance he's staggered, being staggered is what enables the deathblow
It's like if Arcane fans were lying about Redfall saying "guise it has stealth takedowns, its basically Dishonored Liberal coast town edition. It's embarrassing watchimg ppl like Asmongold and their fans pretend to be excited for a series they never cared for.
I love Souls and FS and will probably play this some point but I'm not going outta my way to watch trailers or maybe I just don't havea moron audience to milk
>It has a hard lock-on
No it doesn't, the only people saying that are Souls drones like Vaati, game journos who are probably just parroting him, and ShazamBlack folk on Ganker. It has soft lock on and quick turning like AC4.
Yeah the truth is Vaati just kept backpedalling until he reached a point where he could say he was right.
His stance is now basically "there are stagger bars like sekiro and telegraphed boss attacks and lockon like in souls so its soulslike" when at the start of all this, before "legitimizing" himself by actually getting familiar with the series, he first assumed it would be a slow ass openworld melee mechasouls roll+parry game
Oh wait this is about the tweet, well it basically still applies to similar sorts of soulsgay homosexuals who have a vested interest in pretending something is soulslike
Isn't this the homosexual with like 50 videos of "and I played 10 more SOULS games" and if you make the mistake of watching one you're left scratching your head as to how he came to the conclusion the game he's playing is a soulslike?
he literally admits in every single one of those videos that the connection is being stretched as thin as possible just for the sake of it
if you're legitimately "you're left scratching your head as to how he came to the conclusion the game he's playing is a soulslike?" without already knowing this, then you're just straight up not paying any attention and shouldn't be criticizing it
>scratching your head as to how he came to the conclusion the game he's playing is a soulslike
He didnt
He came to the conclusion that making another video and racking up the money from morons that watch those sounds cool, and in todays twitter-centered society you can dress up any kind of moronic reasoning and idiots will accept it, and even repeat it to others as long as it sounds somewhat eloquent
"This really *FEELS* like a soulslike game in spirit, and I will put 16 more smokescreen buzzwords in here, no it doesnt have any of the mechanics but I *feel* like I was in Lordran again!"
>but I *feel* like I was in Lordran again!"
The level design of AC6 so far actually looks good though. It might even be better than DaS1 thanks to the movement options if the interconnected world is actually in (I think they said it was in the interviews but I dont remember).
everytime I see this take I need to remind everyone the reason why this is, is because most mecha content being made is fricking GARBAGE with shit writing, terrible mechs or awful horny shit that pushes people away
Armored Flop is so uninteresting to Souls babies they are paying influencers to market it as a Souls-like lol. It will be a fast paced high octane mecha game but it's mecha in the end. Mecha is niche. Good for mecha enjoyers though. Soulsgays will fund their future games kek.
I hate how all these fake AC homosexuals ecelebs are trying to make it seem like they gave a shit about AC ever when you know they didn't. they never cared for the franchise. they're just from software nut gobblers. even bringing up souls at all reveals they don't know what the frick they're talking about. bamco is giving these souls ecelebs the footage over releasing the trailer outright has all kinds of red flags too.
AC is niche, and from that gameplay, will remain so. it looks alright, just like all AC games have been.
>bamco is giving these souls ecelebs the footage over releasing the trailer outright has all kinds of red flags too.
That's just modern video game marketing, it sucks but Streamers and E-celebs are the people that convince joe normie to actually buy your game
Old AC games looked much shittier though, with very bad level design and a just rectangle constantly on screen. This seems to be going for highly detailed Deus Ex like levels and the aesthetics based on what we've seen are much better, so it will appeal to a lot more people.
I havent played all ACs, so please
name 1 good level in any AC game
name 1 AC game without a rectangle constantly on screen
post 1 AC screenshot that looks good
>name 1 good level in any AC game
Im just going to tell you to shut the frick up if you didn't have fun with even a song mission in the PS1 games, clearly the series isn't for you
>up if you didn't have fun with even a song mission
what
Anyway the games are fun but "exploring" the levels themselves isnt.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Anyway the games are fun but "exploring" the levels themselves isnt
I swear it's like you idiots completely skip Stop Gas Exposure, Remove Base Occupants, or Kill "Struggle" leader
What a lot of people don't really understand is that a lot of the "souls elements" they think of now are just things FromSoftware put in their games from the start.
Why are some ecelebs pushing this "it's actually Soulslike" shit so hard with this game? My issue isn't even whether or not it is, I love both AC and Souls, wouldn't care, but it's not a consistent metric.
When Sekiro came out, all the talk was about how you need to "unlearn Souls", or "this isn't Dark Souls, guys, it's a different thing". Adding perfect blocks, a posture meter and changing how you level your character while keeping everything else is enough to not be a Souls game, but a fricking mecha game becomes one because, uh... you dodge boss attacks? What the frick?
I dodge boss attacks in Kingdom Hearts, I lock-on in Kingdom Hearts, I explore three dimensional environments, collect loot, build my character and change that build, I carry consumables and heal mid-mission, is Kingdom Hearts a Soulslike?
Either "Soulslike" refers to a subgenre of Action RPG, or it refers to any game that has elements that can be linked to Dark Souls. Having the same word referring to both makes no sense whatsoever.
At the end of the day, homosexual. I'm going to play it because its AC and has AC gameplay.
You probably won't even play it since you're just a shitposter and nobody plays soulslikes for estus flasks and lockon
Yeah, it's kind of fricking ridiculous how many people are shitposting about AC6 because from software made it. Years ago nobody gave a shit but now FS is successful than ever before, you got all these contrarians popping up from their gutters screaming this and that.
Meanwhile I just got a new AC game in years and there's so few people to share that excitement with. My brother played the same games as me but I think I was more into the series than he was. His reaction to AC6 was kind of lackluster too.
Well, whatever. We'll just see who's still talking about AC6 when the game's out and a while after that.
1 year ago
Anonymous
give up on ever actually talking about video games on this shithole of a board
there are too many brain damaged mentally ill homosexuals addicted to farming pointless (you) markers here to ever have a decent conversation
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah... but it also feels pointless visiting a general for different games I play. Everyy single of them has at least 1 or more mentally ill poster shitting up the general and drowning any meaningful discussion of the game. The whole website feels awful for talking about games. I'm so tired of this place but I can't leave either...
It's not. It's just being able to go up faster than continually boosting upwards. I think being able to hop from the ground faster is a much better change, especially since boost hopping is not a thing anymore so movement will be going left or right faster or going up quickly.
Plus the quick hop was in the older games too, just reserved for the reverse jointed legs.
I actually not stand what Dark Souls has done to you fricking idiots. The idea that a game with a lock on and a heal is as soulslike is so insane that I wonder if any of you can think beyond the first idiotic thing that pops into your tiny brains
gay. Nowhere did he say that game. Healing is new to AC. Radar has been in AC.
Because the morons got big on youtube with souls videos and they're trying to convince their audience to stick around
Same shit happened when WoW imploded and all the celebs jumped ship to other games
Because they're dumbasses mad that they can't create a Shrek mech and can't invade people on a swamm. or else Bamco is telling them to compare it to souls to cater to those people even though both series are so far apart from each other that people are latching onto lock on and dodging for their comparisons.
because to zoomers soulslike = action game and it's the only thing they want to play, it is in their interest to make everything into a soulslike and have things be popular because they are like parasites clinging to a host in order to feed
>the worst influence in the world of vidya wasn't assassin's creed, it wasn't naughty dog's moviegames, it's dark souls
It hasn't hit rock bottom enough for people here let alone the normalgays to realize but this will ultimately show itself to be trues. The writing should've been on the wall for people should've been when Fromsoft started a new Tenchu game and that hack Miyazaki walked in and "No we make Dark Souls again and call it Sekiro"
>It hasn't hit rock bottom enough for people here let alone the normalgays to realize
"people" here won't realize anything because they love this garbage, this shithole has been soulstrannies central for the best part of a decade, they'll be onionfacing at the next roll simulator shat out by mitsubishi for the next 20 years
Crazy how all the shills who have a vested financial interest in having something "soulslike" to continuously manufacture clickbait bullshit around say it's actually "soulslike" in spite of everyone with an opinion that matters saying otherwise
Remember, they are all saying this because they make money with videos about souls games and everything similar, it's the entire thing their youtube careers are about, so of fricking course when a game by the devs who made the souls games releases every single one of them is going to be like >It's totally like a souls game if you don't think about it!
because they want their usual audience to watch their gazillion news, lore and gameplay videos about it.
>I will keep slurping
Of course you will, sheep
Just don't go around acting like you know what you're talking about
It's pathetic really
You are the sorts of gay that have been ruining Ganker for the past decade.
Bitter shazamBlack folk looking for the next TORtanic, so deeply stuck in your "society has fallen" mindset that you go actually wishing for games to be bad and try to manifest it into reality so your depression and bitterness can feel justified. A bit like how some apocalypse preppers secretly want world war 3 to happen so all the money and time they wasted into preparation doesn't get wasted, they need their paranoia and dissatisfaction with life to feel justified. Ganker will only get good again once you homosexuals get raped to death with a tire iron.
Can they go one game without calling it souls? >Yeah man, you're in a mech and shooting shit and trying not to get hit. Very souls like. That part where they have nothing alike apart from being in this person solidified how subtlety soulslike it is
Threadly reminder that Armored Reddit games were panned for decades and put on the bottom shelf of mecha games for its god awful floaty controls that feel like you’re piloting a gmod wiremod contraption instead of a mech
Everyone in these threads have never played armored core
Maybe the mech genre would be more well liked if they actually made good games instead of shit games with one or two features that pander so specifically to a certain type of autism that the people with that form of autism can't help but buy them.
>from has successfully modernized tenchu with sekiro and armored core for AC6 by applying the dark souls philosophy
utterly based
When will devs stop making souls-like games and start to apply the souls philosophy to their games?
All I've heard so far is the Nolan synth horns blaring. "Remember" was playing in Vaati's video, but I'm not sure if that was in-game BGM or something he added in editing.
If Kota isn't in then it doesn't matter that much, really. There's been other composers for AC who have done a lot of good work (Yuji Kanda, Tsukasa Saitoh)
How the frick did doomposters and shitposters manage to backpedal as far as "lockon = soulslike" from the first fricking mechasouls moronation about fricking bonfire melee combat and dodgerolling?
not dark souls lock on moron
here you literally press R3 and hard lock on to an enemy and start strafing around it disregarding any kind of turning speed... just like in dark souls
You looked at a target and depending on the gun it would literally lock and track the target. There were skill based ones that didn't lock but some did. It was even easier than souls because you could turn and move and your weapons would stay on target but you moved where you wanted to go. moron.
yeah except you don't "look at target" now you press lock on and it looks at target for you
how is it so hard to understand for your moronic brain? it's not just some abstract "lock-on" it's exact mechanic from DARK SOULS that WORKS EXACTLY THE FRICKING SAME
same with estus
1 year ago
Anonymous
>how is it so hard to understand
How do you know, gay? We haven't played it yet.
1 year ago
Anonymous
????????? IMPRESSIONS AND NEW GAMEPLAY IS OUT you fricking brainlet
go watch it and stop asking moronic SHIT
I don't give much of a damn if newbies or secondaries get into Armored Core cause knowing how mecha stuff is in general, after the initial Fromsoft hype wears off there won't be as many people who are sticking to it outside of those who are truly invested.
Still it does confirm my suspicion on how the gameplay style is somewhat similar to Daemon X Machina which I guess is a given since it had some Armored Core devs there
Daemon x Machina already had hard lock on and it was fine, i am more concerned that the level design and enemies in general feel way too soulsy. From how little of them there are, to how mookish they seem to act and operate more as a random zombie soldier than a proper mech. That boss fight or whatever it supposed to be was entirely soulshit as well with enemy doing huge ark swings you can invul under and barely even shooting you.
Still i am desperate enough for mecha games i will get it and play the ever living frick out of it, but i fully expect it to be less of an AC game than DxM was.
>Daemon x Machina already had hard lock on and it was fine
I don't remember this at all. They put gyro aim in there and that's all that was ever needed.
>i am more concerned that the level design and enemies in general feel way too soulsy. From how little of them there are, to how mookish they seem to act and operate more as a random zombie soldier than a proper mech
what the frick MTs do you think did in older gens? frickers were fodder expect some actually annoying special ones
>operate more as a random zombie soldier than a proper mech
You seriously don't remember the legions of jobber mooks and MTs in the previous games that had literal nothing AI
At least oro has the decency to clarify shit isn't a soulslike despite his clickbaiting.
Vaati on the other hand is still trying to push the narrative that dodge button and lockon means the game is a soulslike
Do these games have a lengthy single player campaign? AC6 looks cool but if it's short that's going to be a no go for me since I have absolutely no interest in PVP.
it's over, they added souls lock-on, zanzibart bosses, sekiro stagger bar, bonfire, runbacks, corpse runs, hidden walls and mimic chests....... the souls secondaries won.....
Now im confused. Og ac is short and mission based, butvthis one seems to have pretty large environments butvits still mission based. What if the game is kind of like Demon Souls where you a couple of large worlds instead of one giant interconnected one.
>What if the game is kind of like Demon Souls where you a couple of large worlds
It seems to be the case but they also mentioned how short missions are still in also.
>game is about mechs >if it has RPG elements and you have to try and not to get hit to not die it's just like dark souls then
i've been playing souls like my entire life because now that i think of it, i usually do try and not to get hit in action games
who knew...
someday someone is going to go to vaati's house smear it in feces but unfortunately it's not easy for me to get the amount i'd need to really do a good job of it
recomposing this post because I felt I could illustrate the point better
different pieces have different weights, which affects your speed, energy regeneration, and capacity for dodging, and they have a slew of different stats including stagger resistance
the menu is arranged per piece sorted horizontally, with each slot providing a vertical submenu where you select individual pieces
while you have stats independent from your equipment, you can dynamically and drastically change your build at little commitment cost by simply equipping different gear.
given how every piece of equipment has its own niche, from the heaviest of the heavy weapons to its weaker but lighter variant, few weapons ever truly become obsolete as much as you find something that really clicks with you and suits your purposes
Am I talking about Souls games, or Armored Core?
In the most critical and fundamental part of any RPG game, your player character, you can see how AC games influenced their approach to Souls games. It would have been so easy to just make people replace their weapons as they get better ones entirely, without going through this side-grade with resource upgrade system, but From decided they wanted to make characters as modular as fricking mecha. Every other RPG is defined by hard commitment that you can't take back, the defining strengths of your build that work just for a few options at the cost of all others. Souls games have Strength daggers, magic maces, giant greatswords and little greatswords, variations of the same thing so you can fine tune a character to perform as you want them to.
Like a fricking AC.
I wonder what was the first RPG to make different equipments sidegrades, making every one you find useful in the future (putting aside stat allocations). In armored core, sure, there were a bunch of shitty parts but once you got past those, all the other parts competed with each other. And when I first picked up bloodborne, I was surprised at how all weapons weren't just wood sword -> iron sword -> steel sword etc but distinctly different weapons.
And further, what kind of RPG in the 00's era fricking sat down and did status effects the way DeS did it? If you wanted to poison an enemy, it was up to random chance whether you applied it or not. Enemies might have had no resistance to it, but it was still chance. If you wanted poison resistance, you'd equip some Ring of Poison Resistance, 50% chance to not get poisoned. Cloak of Snakes Bane, -25% poison damage per tick. Something like that. Chance, but no certainty.
It doesn't work like that in DeS. In DeS, it's a bar that fills up (though it doesn't show it, that's how it works), and once it does, you're poisoned. Why does it work like that? Because resistance is a number you stack. So how do you get more resistant to poison? You equip poison resistant gear. And this gear doesn't rely on chance, it relies on numbers, hard numbers, a big spreadsheet of numbers that each piece of equipment has and will not change. This foundation is not on dice, or chance. It's on numbers. It's on stats. You coming up with the idea of poistanking through 4 Kings with Havel's Armor and DMB Falchion begins and ends in the fricking Garage. You weren't handed that build at the start of the game, you conceived it.
And that's why Souls games at least began as RPGs for Armored Core fans. Nobody but Fromsoft could have made Souls games the way they did. Nobody had the perspective on equipment that they did.
Armored core released for the first time some ten years before monster hunter.
shut the frick up.
1 year ago
Anonymous
and what the frick does that have to do with souls combat?
or how status builds up?
have a nice day souldrones
1 year ago
Anonymous
what?
I'm stating that Armored core, which had mechanics working on stats(like stagger) came out way before MH, and that From used that and their knowledge gained will making KF to make DeS. MH has nothing to do with anything.
TOTAL SOULSDRONE DEATH
Kill soulsdrones. Behead soulsdrones. Roundhouse kick a soulsdrone into the concrete. Slam dunk a soulsdrone's baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy souls fans.
I'm not happy with repair kits, the turn speed, checkpoints and lack of radar, but I'm sure that I'll have fun with the game. Wish we got a true successor to the PS2 titles, but that was only hopeful thinking.
I actually not stand what Dark Souls has done to you fricking idiots. The idea that a game with a lock on and a heal is as soulslike is so insane that I wonder if any of you can think beyond the first idiotic thing that pops into your tiny brains
Ok so is it actually "soulslike" or is it "soulslike" in that overused buzzword kind of way where moronic normalgay scum call fricking everything a soulslike?
>I see they sucked all the soul out to appeal to zoomers
Its funny you say that while posting For Answer. It sucked the soul from all the AC games before it.
Hard lock on is a dogshit mechanic that literally only exists because console kids are incapable of controlling their camera and moving at the same time. In most AC games even keeping a fast moving enemy on your screen is a real challenge so its pretty lame to just remove that skill from the game. I'm still going to have fun but the hard lock is a huge step (for the worse) towards playing like a souls game.
In general, lock exists because in 3rd person games, look direction is detached from actions, and your character will attack in your move direction. Lock allows to attack while strafing. If you want to get rid of lock, you'll need to make tour character attack in your look direction, like in shooters.
>soulbabies will complain about it because it's not soulslike enough >AC tards will complain about it because it's somewhat like souls
Another game discussion ruined forever.
>people doomposting that they turned it into a souls game >homosexual soulstubers saying "uh it looks like a souls game" >only remotely "souls" thing in the new trailer is a hard lock on that was already in AC4
So is this a case of soulsgays never having played the games assuming that dark souls invented shit that was already in older from games, let alone non-from games? I've seen gays like that max guy say shit like "AC6 needs X/Y/Z from souls to be successful!" Then it turns out all that shit was already in the games. Wait till these gays see the moonlight blade in the game and start baseding out about how it's a le heckin chungus dark souls reference lmfao.
Anything with a "camera behind your character" type of game is a soulslike, because Dark Souls was the first game that actually made it good and iconic.
It also has the staple Souls bosses.
Having watched the gameplay footage it looks like it plays like a Gundam Vs game and less like your traditional AC. That's honestly fine by me, Gundam Vs games are mechanically great as far as fun goes, although it's disappointing that they're moving away from the traditional mechanics
>this game sucks, it's like Dark Souls!
no, it's like Sekiro >Dark Souls didn't invent anything, it's not like Dark Souls!
yeah, it's like Sekiro
SEKICHADS WINNING AGAIN
Some people here are b***hing about the bosses being slow and soulslike but what's the issue here? Most of the fights in AC against large enemies usually really sucked because they just stacked a bunch of guns on something or spamming bullets everywhere. Having them actually have attacks that can be avoided is fine and interesting. The best fights were the ones that were against AC-like mechs, like Exusia in Verdict Day.
homies really thought from remembered how to make other games lol
you want to try again anon?
esl?
from = fromsoftware esl
show hands
quit steppin blud you don't want these problems
This is a man who thinks that if you have a dodge its a souls-like
if he played armored core 1 he'd think its a souls like.
homie he literally made a video of his experience playing all AC games
> Twitter gay
> DS avatar
You can bet the first game he played in his entire life was Dark Souls.
>Twitter gay
He's a youtuber and has been around for a long time, zoomie.
>GLUG GLUG GLUG YOUTUBE MAN wiener SO GOOD GLUG GLUG
Give me your tags. I better see you pre order the super limited edition, and buy all the Souls game collectors for scalp pricing
good
This. Any kind of formula added to the gameplay is a good thing. Original AC was just shoot till it dies.
Who cares about Armored Core fans. There's a reason From's design is now the industry standard.
Soulschads, we win again!
From hasn't made a good game since Sekiro.
>souls-like
On par with terms like soul, woke and chud they mean nothing and people who use them should be ignored.
soulless chud detected
dont know who this moron is and dont care what his tweet says also
>AC vets
lmao
All I ask is to have shields work like they do in Souls instead of the crappy shields we've always had
still plays like AC so who cares
Everything is soulslike to the soulsdrone's mind.
>Boss
>Dodge
LE SOUL LIKE
HUD mockup and gameplay with timestamp
?t=1374
post it from a channel that's not that homosexual Vaati
frick you fricking homosexual piece of shit shut the frick up here you go
lmao this looks nothing like souls gameplay since it actually seems good. We've really reached the mindset of dodgebutton=soulslike huh?
yes anon, Ganker is moronic, news at 11
Soulgays think if anything has action combat with dodging it's soulslike.
Ocarina of Time is a Souls-like
new ac "fans" never played the games, they dont know both all the games since 4 have optional lockon
i must have missed it
did ac4 and beyond really have hard lock-ons?
yes, but it can be broken by zooming out of view since turning speed is still a thing.
and the ac6 trailer showed combat against fast opponents or acs.
It did, but it wasn't as "hard" as it is in Souls. If the target broke your lock, you wouldn't get snapped 180 to track them, it would simply stop your lock-on. It was also extremely shit, since you didn't want your mobility yanked away from you by a fricking enemy QB.
AC V was so shit I don't blame people for not playing it.
another thread started by a tendie afraid of getting bodied for GOTY
Turning seems much faster in this than in any of the other games.
It's really inconsistent. It almost feels like when you're in combat you have to use quick turns like AC4/4A, but then out of combat when you're just moving around the player just instantaneously flips directions 90+ degrees like it's Monster Hunter
turning in combat is managed by the hard lock on. If you're locked on your mech turns automatically
outside of combat camera control is normal
Pretty sure its just your normal Action Game lock-on "focus locked on enemy" type of thing just a bit looser then Souls where its always middle of the screen. I'm hoping this is a toggle-able option, because I like having full control of my mecha at all times in AC games, but if not I'll get used to it I guess.
looks frickin swag
i'm hype
HOW ARE PEOPLE SAYING THIS IS SOULS ANYTHING WHEN YOU CAN FRICKING FLY LIKE WHAT?
because it is
flying changes fricking nothing
>soulsBlack folk are moronic yet again
>batman vision
casual trash confirmed
>He doesn't remember SCANO MODE
Metal Souls.
Literally dark souls, LITERALLY
kino
trannies think Zelda lock on means souls holeeee shit
Zelda is 6 gorillion times better than Dark israelites. FromShit has never made a good game. Come find me when they make a a game that doesn’t depend on artificial difficulty, gimmicks, bloat, and bullshit. Till then keep dilating and taking your HRT
>That enemy that gets kicked off into the abyss at 1:23
This game's gonna be great.
Good call, he thinks he's the authority on Souls because homosexuals liked his voice now he wants to lead his flock of sheep to Armoured Core, hope that game has their own Vaati
based ravens, frick that normie c**t, I never understood how vaatihomosexual got such huge although blind following
That area looks like the run before Sir Alonne.
rocket boosters are cool but my autism won't let me stop thinking about how much fuel it would need
fusion power and sheit
The whole idea of robot melee is bizarre. Not that it looks bad. Quite the contrary.
The whole idea of high profile, bipedal machines is bizarre.
>The whole idea of high profile bipedals is bizarre
Yes, because they would be absolutely shit in real combat situations.
So if your willing to ignore that, you should also ignore everything else, because robot melee is no less bizarre.
Yeah, quadrupeds won every war against bipeds. Sad stuff.
ac6 will be the dark souls of armored core
>developers reiterate over and over and over and fricking over: this is not a Souls game, it plays like AC
>dumbfrick ecelebs: duhhhhh it has lockon and dodging so it's Souls
Ah yes, hard camera and targeting lock on and combat focused around pattern memorization and dodging enemy combos, exactly what AC is known for
Thus sounds fun, old ac is just brainlessly circle strafing and holding fire cause machine guns are busted
What makes you think this won't be as braindead
AC has never had good combat as the focus
frick off, mechwarrior homosexual
your series is a borefest, go snipe a pixel from 10 miles away
Seething
Go run another "build" that boils down to dual sniper homosexual
my only hope for ac6 is that it isn't ac5
Garage
my kawasawa is erect
Pretty slick.
I wonder if you get all your money back if you sell parts. I thought that was easily one of the worst parts of the games I tried from this series. Permanent choice is good.
that only started in AC4 I believe? 1 and 2 at least I could buy a weapon, try it out, hate it and sell it right back
i like it
but considering how ac games always had an expansion pack that changed the equipment menu, do you think from will change the ui again for AC6 expansion?
DONG
>Night Heron
Damn, that sounds cool.
Too slim.
Give me bulk.
Gar(b)age*
It looks like it would break in half if you try going fast in it
Beauty in simplicity.
I need a robot with strong... armored... core. not a wasp.
Then build one, those aren't the only parts in the game? This is a series known for customizing your AC if you didn't know.
I can't, the game isn't out yet.
THIS IS LITERALLY ZOE2
looks nothing like zoe
The way I see it everyone at the start of the dumbass controversy came out thinking they won.
People like FightingCowboy are vindicated because people were saying shit would be fricking melee dodgerolling mecha souls and whatever while gays like Vaati are happy at calling it soulslike just because of a stagger system and telegraphed boss attacks.
FightingCowboy is moronic
I’d never heard of him till he said “parries in a game, yknow parries are my thing, i’m like the parry guy” and then went on to claim the hitbox parry FFXVI has is dogshit
>they really think this AC is going to be as fast as the previous ACs
It looks like it's between 3 and 4 from the gameplay videos I've seen.
Only acfa had anime speed, old gen was fast but not hyper fast
why do they show it to these shill homosexuals instead of just putting up a video with no commentary to let the game speak for itself?
I dunno, Bamco's weird that way.
The Elden Ring influences were clear from the interviews. The lock on, the reworked stagger system, how impact power was reworked, and other features.
The original Armored Core was hopscotch simulator, the only impressive part of the game were the customization options. Any deviation from the original gameplay formula is a step in the right direction.
i will now buy your game
My guess is that he heard there was going to be a retrieval mechanic or a rally mechanic, which could kinda work in AC, but it isn't going to be a fricking adventure game. The issue is that you can strip down mechanics of a dark souls game and say shit like "oh the currency is also the experience so it's soulslike", it's moronic
Yeah the truth is Vaati just kept backpedalling until he reached a point where he could say he was right.
His stance is now basically "there are stagger bars like sekiro and telegraphed boss attacks and lockon like in souls so its soulslike" when at the start of all this, before "legitimizing" himself by actually getting familiar with the series, he first assumed it would be a slow ass openworld melee mechasouls roll+parry game
Sekiro has no stagger, Sekiro has deathblows.
Sekiro also has no different melee weapons.
The only similarity to Sekiro is that the stance bar is visible, and it's only possible because unlike Souls games Armored Core has no different types of stagger, including one specifically on enemy attacks.
It's far closer to Souls games
>Sekiro has no stagger
how do you do a deathblow without doing HP damage
that's right
stagger bar
>w-well ackshully it's STANC-
and if you break the stance he's staggered, being staggered is what enables the deathblow
It has a hard lock-on and a stagger system with a bar like in Sekiro, pretty much the only "souls like" shit in the demo they showed.
Yeah, embarrassing souls tubers
It's like if Arcane fans were lying about Redfall saying "guise it has stealth takedowns, its basically Dishonored Liberal coast town edition. It's embarrassing watchimg ppl like Asmongold and their fans pretend to be excited for a series they never cared for.
I love Souls and FS and will probably play this some point but I'm not going outta my way to watch trailers or maybe I just don't havea moron audience to milk
>It has a hard lock-on
No it doesn't, the only people saying that are Souls drones like Vaati, game journos who are probably just parroting him, and ShazamBlack folk on Ganker. It has soft lock on and quick turning like AC4.
Oh wait this is about the tweet, well it basically still applies to similar sorts of soulsgay homosexuals who have a vested interest in pretending something is soulslike
"It's lock-on so it's soulslike" is the new cope
I hate this stupid moron so much and every other souls e-celeb
It's unironically over for mechagays lmao
Souls is here to stay.
Iron Pineapple is the worst judge of what is a "Souls-like." He'd probably call Armored Core For Answer a Souls-like if it came out today.
Isn't this the homosexual with like 50 videos of "and I played 10 more SOULS games" and if you make the mistake of watching one you're left scratching your head as to how he came to the conclusion the game he's playing is a soulslike?
His argument for what is "souls-like" is basically "does it have a dodge roll? Yes? Then its souls."
More like does it have melee combat
he literally admits in every single one of those videos that the connection is being stretched as thin as possible just for the sake of it
if you're legitimately "you're left scratching your head as to how he came to the conclusion the game he's playing is a soulslike?" without already knowing this, then you're just straight up not paying any attention and shouldn't be criticizing it
>scratching your head as to how he came to the conclusion the game he's playing is a soulslike
He didnt
He came to the conclusion that making another video and racking up the money from morons that watch those sounds cool, and in todays twitter-centered society you can dress up any kind of moronic reasoning and idiots will accept it, and even repeat it to others as long as it sounds somewhat eloquent
"This really *FEELS* like a soulslike game in spirit, and I will put 16 more smokescreen buzzwords in here, no it doesnt have any of the mechanics but I *feel* like I was in Lordran again!"
>but I *feel* like I was in Lordran again!"
The level design of AC6 so far actually looks good though. It might even be better than DaS1 thanks to the movement options if the interconnected world is actually in (I think they said it was in the interviews but I dont remember).
>interconnected world
Your first AC game?
second
>IT HAS MELEE SO ITS SOULS
>IT HAS DODGE SO ITS SOULS
>IT HAS MOVEMENT SO ITS SOULS
kys soulsgays
Dark Souls invented combat
The only think Shit Souls invented was artificial difficulty and bloat
fricking ruined
OH FOR FRICKS SAKE
I will say it again. No d.a.m.n. one outside Japan likes mechas.
Mecha is a dying genre in japan, it's mostly chinks and koreans now
Gundam still prints money in Japan but yes mecha is more of an asia thing now
Mecha's been 'dying' for 40 years at this point, it's just a niche genre man
I do homosexual what now?
he has nobody, you are nobody
everytime I see this take I need to remind everyone the reason why this is, is because most mecha content being made is fricking GARBAGE with shit writing, terrible mechs or awful horny shit that pushes people away
As opposed to quality horny shit, right? Godannar was fun.
Exactly.
These morons have never played AC and think anything with action combat is "soulslike".
Man who earns money playing nothing but Souls related games playing another type of game:
"Getting some Souls vibes here."
Wasn't Armored Core turn based tactics?
Atleast from my memory of playing a demo years ago it was
front mission
Yeah. You're right. I was. Been confusing these games this whole time.
Which means I mostly see the new AC with indifference
Front Mission is getting some remakes. First one is out already
You just had to ruin his day, didn't you?
You might be thinking of Front Mission, Anon.
>Wasn't Armored Core turn based tactics?
No.
you're thinking of front mission
My only memory is a PS1 demo, AC and Tenchu were some of my first ps1 games actually. Didn't realize it was same company until like DS3 was out
Yes, you turn in a circle around your enemy while tactically shooting them.
Armored Flop is so uninteresting to Souls babies they are paying influencers to market it as a Souls-like lol. It will be a fast paced high octane mecha game but it's mecha in the end. Mecha is niche. Good for mecha enjoyers though. Soulsgays will fund their future games kek.
That boss is literally Father Ariandel as a mecha
Looks fun
I sometimes cringe being a souls fan. Miyazaki didn't invent gaming
yes he did
Unironically this. There is games, gaming and modern gaming. Miyazaki created what we know of the term gaming
What would games be compared to if from never made the souls games.
breath of the wild
>Plays nothing like souls
>Souls game
Typical Ganker
What do you expect from IronPineapple
VaatiVidya on the other hand is /ourguy/ and would never say something moronic
lol
Showcase 1 statement that displays sub-140IQ behavior that Vaati has made.
He copies lore posts from here so it's all sub 100 IQ
>go to Ganker and /vg/
>steal content
>narrate it on youtube channel
>make six figures out of it
that's a 150IQ move if you ask me
what the difference?
fromsoft is creatively bankrupt
Correction: Dark Souls is an AC-like game.
I hate how all these fake AC homosexuals ecelebs are trying to make it seem like they gave a shit about AC ever when you know they didn't. they never cared for the franchise. they're just from software nut gobblers. even bringing up souls at all reveals they don't know what the frick they're talking about. bamco is giving these souls ecelebs the footage over releasing the trailer outright has all kinds of red flags too.
AC is niche, and from that gameplay, will remain so. it looks alright, just like all AC games have been.
>bamco is giving these souls ecelebs the footage over releasing the trailer outright has all kinds of red flags too.
That's just modern video game marketing, it sucks but Streamers and E-celebs are the people that convince joe normie to actually buy your game
Old AC games looked much shittier though, with very bad level design and a just rectangle constantly on screen. This seems to be going for highly detailed Deus Ex like levels and the aesthetics based on what we've seen are much better, so it will appeal to a lot more people.
>Old AC games looked much shittier though, with very bad level design and a just rectangle constantly on screen.
Go back to your souls games kiddo
I havent played all ACs, so please
name 1 good level in any AC game
name 1 AC game without a rectangle constantly on screen
post 1 AC screenshot that looks good
>HUD BAD
Go back souls kiddo
You did not complete any assigned tasks so I will assume you concede. GG no re
>name 1 AC game without a rectangle constantly on screen
Never even seen 4 or For Answer, huh.
Cant emulate PS3 with my rig yet
>name 1 good level in any AC game
Im just going to tell you to shut the frick up if you didn't have fun with even a song mission in the PS1 games, clearly the series isn't for you
>up if you didn't have fun with even a song mission
what
Anyway the games are fun but "exploring" the levels themselves isnt.
>Anyway the games are fun but "exploring" the levels themselves isnt
I swear it's like you idiots completely skip Stop Gas Exposure, Remove Base Occupants, or Kill "Struggle" leader
>just a rectangle
This homie doesn't know what the FCS does
Do YOU, dear reader?
If they were fromsoft nutgoblers they would have played AC before last year. They're soulsbabbies and nothing else.
>atlus can't make anything but persona
>from can't make anything but souls
the east has fallen...
millions must flask
>capcom can only release remakes in the same engine
>Nintendo can only release multimillion sellers
What a lot of people don't really understand is that a lot of the "souls elements" they think of now are just things FromSoftware put in their games from the start.
Why are some ecelebs pushing this "it's actually Soulslike" shit so hard with this game? My issue isn't even whether or not it is, I love both AC and Souls, wouldn't care, but it's not a consistent metric.
When Sekiro came out, all the talk was about how you need to "unlearn Souls", or "this isn't Dark Souls, guys, it's a different thing". Adding perfect blocks, a posture meter and changing how you level your character while keeping everything else is enough to not be a Souls game, but a fricking mecha game becomes one because, uh... you dodge boss attacks? What the frick?
I dodge boss attacks in Kingdom Hearts, I lock-on in Kingdom Hearts, I explore three dimensional environments, collect loot, build my character and change that build, I carry consumables and heal mid-mission, is Kingdom Hearts a Soulslike?
Either "Soulslike" refers to a subgenre of Action RPG, or it refers to any game that has elements that can be linked to Dark Souls. Having the same word referring to both makes no sense whatsoever.
>Why are some ecelebs pushing this "it's actually Soulslike" shit so hard with this game?
Because it is dumbass
Wow holy shit is that third person combat?
It's fricking SOOOOOUUUULS
>Lock on
>Estus Flask
Yes
Keep coping though
At the end of the day, homosexual. I'm going to play it because its AC and has AC gameplay.
You probably won't even play it since you're just a shitposter and nobody plays soulslikes for estus flasks and lockon
>I will keep slurping
Of course you will, sheep
Just don't go around acting like you know what you're talking about
It's pathetic really
what games do you play oh anon of supposedly good taste
bold of you to assume shitposters play any video games
Yeah, it's kind of fricking ridiculous how many people are shitposting about AC6 because from software made it. Years ago nobody gave a shit but now FS is successful than ever before, you got all these contrarians popping up from their gutters screaming this and that.
Meanwhile I just got a new AC game in years and there's so few people to share that excitement with. My brother played the same games as me but I think I was more into the series than he was. His reaction to AC6 was kind of lackluster too.
Well, whatever. We'll just see who's still talking about AC6 when the game's out and a while after that.
give up on ever actually talking about video games on this shithole of a board
there are too many brain damaged mentally ill homosexuals addicted to farming pointless (you) markers here to ever have a decent conversation
Yeah... but it also feels pointless visiting a general for different games I play. Everyy single of them has at least 1 or more mentally ill poster shitting up the general and drowning any meaningful discussion of the game. The whole website feels awful for talking about games. I'm so tired of this place but I can't leave either...
>>Lock on
If we are going by this then since AC had locking on to a target before souls games existed they are all AC-likes
>huuur there's healing and you can lock-on
>this is the frame of reference of soulsbabbies
you Black person are insufferable
They have no other frame of reference and they don't want to lock verbal blades with OoTgays and claim each other are OoTlikes/soulslikes
You're responding to someone who doesn't play games and is just trying to derail threads.
OOT confirmed to be a soulslike.
>Because of the stagger/knockdown effect the melee kick from 5 is now a full blown Dark Messiah kick sending people spiraling to their doom
Unironcially kino
Oh sweet jesus that better not be a 5th gen style jump I'm seeing there. I was hoping for a return to 3rd gen gameplay
Watch the full video, dumbass, you can jump and then keep boosting vertically like the rest of the games.
It's not. It's just being able to go up faster than continually boosting upwards. I think being able to hop from the ground faster is a much better change, especially since boost hopping is not a thing anymore so movement will be going left or right faster or going up quickly.
Plus the quick hop was in the older games too, just reserved for the reverse jointed legs.
ACgays, please tell me that this boosting doesn't have i-frames
Don't think it ever has before
Boosting only helped with not getting hit.
gay. Nowhere did he say that game. Healing is new to AC. Radar has been in AC.
it has i-frame in the sense that moving lowers your enemy accuracy.
Have you seen how fast things moves?
Because the morons got big on youtube with souls videos and they're trying to convince their audience to stick around
Same shit happened when WoW imploded and all the celebs jumped ship to other games
Because they are souslike youtubers who need to justfy their content on a non souls game.
Some people have made "I love Fromsoft" their entire identity so they can only view something new in the prospect of it being Soulslike
>their entire identity
my Black person these people talk about video games for 10 minutes a week and make thousands of dollars its a deliberate choice
That's what I mean. They are making that choice because otherwise they would have to admit they aren't into "new Fromsoft game"
Because they're dumbasses mad that they can't create a Shrek mech and can't invade people on a swamm. or else Bamco is telling them to compare it to souls to cater to those people even though both series are so far apart from each other that people are latching onto lock on and dodging for their comparisons.
because to zoomers soulslike = action game and it's the only thing they want to play, it is in their interest to make everything into a soulslike and have things be popular because they are like parasites clinging to a host in order to feed
must be hard being so low test you dont want to drive a giant robot
I'm starting to think the worst influence in the world of vidya wasn't assassin's creed, it wasn't naughty dog's moviegames, it's dark souls
what a terrible meme series of games
>the worst influence in the world of vidya wasn't assassin's creed, it wasn't naughty dog's moviegames, it's dark souls
It hasn't hit rock bottom enough for people here let alone the normalgays to realize but this will ultimately show itself to be trues. The writing should've been on the wall for people should've been when Fromsoft started a new Tenchu game and that hack Miyazaki walked in and "No we make Dark Souls again and call it Sekiro"
>It hasn't hit rock bottom enough for people here let alone the normalgays to realize
"people" here won't realize anything because they love this garbage, this shithole has been soulstrannies central for the best part of a decade, they'll be onionfacing at the next roll simulator shat out by mitsubishi for the next 20 years
Crazy how all the shills who have a vested financial interest in having something "soulslike" to continuously manufacture clickbait bullshit around say it's actually "soulslike" in spite of everyone with an opinion that matters saying otherwise
Armored Core VI is a Dark Souls game and that's a good thing
Remember, they are all saying this because they make money with videos about souls games and everything similar, it's the entire thing their youtube careers are about, so of fricking course when a game by the devs who made the souls games releases every single one of them is going to be like
>It's totally like a souls game if you don't think about it!
because they want their usual audience to watch their gazillion news, lore and gameplay videos about it.
IT'S OFFICIALLY OVER.
You are the sorts of gay that have been ruining Ganker for the past decade.
Bitter shazamBlack folk looking for the next TORtanic, so deeply stuck in your "society has fallen" mindset that you go actually wishing for games to be bad and try to manifest it into reality so your depression and bitterness can feel justified. A bit like how some apocalypse preppers secretly want world war 3 to happen so all the money and time they wasted into preparation doesn't get wasted, they need their paranoia and dissatisfaction with life to feel justified. Ganker will only get good again once you homosexuals get raped to death with a tire iron.
>the problem with Ganker is that they don’t like videogames
>not the massive reddit and twitter cross posting
hello newbie
Can they go one game without calling it souls?
>Yeah man, you're in a mech and shooting shit and trying not to get hit. Very souls like. That part where they have nothing alike apart from being in this person solidified how subtlety soulslike it is
another goty contender
its over for zelda
>Souls invented healing items and z targeting
You people are deranged
Dat's right
name game that did
whats the point of making another armored core if it's not gonna play like armored core?
It literally plays like every other AC game in the past 20 years
Threadly reminder that Armored Reddit games were panned for decades and put on the bottom shelf of mecha games for its god awful floaty controls that feel like you’re piloting a gmod wiremod contraption instead of a mech
Everyone in these threads have never played armored core
>a gmod wiremod contraption
soul
Maybe the mech genre would be more well liked if they actually made good games instead of shit games with one or two features that pander so specifically to a certain type of autism that the people with that form of autism can't help but buy them.
Then they would be just generic action games.
The mecha genre will never be widely liked because mecha are not widely liked. Which is fine with me.
This, I want mecha to be niche anyway. Normalgay ruin everything they got their grubby hands on
wat
>from has successfully modernized tenchu with sekiro and armored core for AC6 by applying the dark souls philosophy
utterly based
When will devs stop making souls-like games and start to apply the souls philosophy to their games?
>no kota hoshino musickino
really?
All I've heard so far is the Nolan synth horns blaring. "Remember" was playing in Vaati's video, but I'm not sure if that was in-game BGM or something he added in editing.
If Kota isn't in then it doesn't matter that much, really. There's been other composers for AC who have done a lot of good work (Yuji Kanda, Tsukasa Saitoh)
Yeah, I just hope everything isn't ambient synthslop. I love Hoshino's stuff so I'm hoping for more.
I hope he adds some cool new tracks on top of what we've heard, and works in some pre-existing ones that haven't seen a game.
Calling it now, this will be the JP promo vid song like Stardust, Vanishing, and Day After Day.
You'll take your generic latin chanting orchestra and you'll like it
Hoshino is confirmed to be the composer
well good let's just hope it sounds good
>fromsoft game is soulslike
wow, say it ain't so
armored core already had a bunch of "fundamental" fromsoft designs
>soulsBlack persony in my Mecha
THE DARK SOULS OF THE ARMORED CORE SERIES
Already exists
Last Raven was literally Miyazaki's first game he worked on too.
Next AC game should have cute kemono anthros
From literally said it's not a Souls-like. That s is likely just braindead e-celebs misunderstanding the gameplay and trying to get attention.
How the frick did doomposters and shitposters manage to backpedal as far as "lockon = soulslike" from the first fricking mechasouls moronation about fricking bonfire melee combat and dodgerolling?
Souls invented lock-on, chud.
AC1 had lock-on nignog
not dark souls lock on moron
here you literally press R3 and hard lock on to an enemy and start strafing around it disregarding any kind of turning speed... just like in dark souls
You looked at a target and depending on the gun it would literally lock and track the target. There were skill based ones that didn't lock but some did. It was even easier than souls because you could turn and move and your weapons would stay on target but you moved where you wanted to go. moron.
yeah except you don't "look at target" now you press lock on and it looks at target for you
how is it so hard to understand for your moronic brain? it's not just some abstract "lock-on" it's exact mechanic from DARK SOULS that WORKS EXACTLY THE FRICKING SAME
same with estus
>how is it so hard to understand
How do you know, gay? We haven't played it yet.
????????? IMPRESSIONS AND NEW GAMEPLAY IS OUT you fricking brainlet
go watch it and stop asking moronic SHIT
I don't give much of a damn if newbies or secondaries get into Armored Core cause knowing how mecha stuff is in general, after the initial Fromsoft hype wears off there won't be as many people who are sticking to it outside of those who are truly invested.
Still it does confirm my suspicion on how the gameplay style is somewhat similar to Daemon X Machina which I guess is a given since it had some Armored Core devs there
Daemon x Machina already had hard lock on and it was fine, i am more concerned that the level design and enemies in general feel way too soulsy. From how little of them there are, to how mookish they seem to act and operate more as a random zombie soldier than a proper mech. That boss fight or whatever it supposed to be was entirely soulshit as well with enemy doing huge ark swings you can invul under and barely even shooting you.
Still i am desperate enough for mecha games i will get it and play the ever living frick out of it, but i fully expect it to be less of an AC game than DxM was.
>Daemon x Machina already had hard lock on and it was fine
Did it? I never knew that. I just used the reticle like normal.
Yeah I only ever used it for the giant enemies though
>Daemon x Machina already had hard lock on and it was fine
I don't remember this at all. They put gyro aim in there and that's all that was ever needed.
>i am more concerned that the level design and enemies in general feel way too soulsy. From how little of them there are, to how mookish they seem to act and operate more as a random zombie soldier than a proper mech
what the frick MTs do you think did in older gens? frickers were fodder expect some actually annoying special ones
>operate more as a random zombie soldier than a proper mech
You seriously don't remember the legions of jobber mooks and MTs in the previous games that had literal nothing AI
At least oro has the decency to clarify shit isn't a soulslike despite his clickbaiting.
Vaati on the other hand is still trying to push the narrative that dodge button and lockon means the game is a soulslike
>at least nasally voiced homosexual is less gay than the other homosexual
thanks for sharing
>combat is soulslike
>leveldesign is soulslike
>isn't a soulslike
>every third word is "soulslike"
lmao
Dumbasses asking for a new AC getting exactly what they deserve.
Karma is a b***h.
>Dumbasses asking for a new AC getting exactly what they deserve.
a new AC?
You mean they got exactly what they wanted...which is a AC game?
a new AC game?
>ecelebs
Thoughts and opinions discarded
Didn't this Black person become popular by making funny Souls videos?
Why would I listen to him when it comes to AC?
Do these games have a lengthy single player campaign? AC6 looks cool but if it's short that's going to be a no go for me since I have absolutely no interest in PVP.
Depends on the game but usually one playthrough won't take you much longer than 3 to 6 hours if that
>lengthy
100% depends on how good you are
just emulate the PS2 games
All AC games are usually short, probably will apply to this one too
Damn, guess I won't buy it.
but robots dont have souls
good
DMC would be called a soulslike. I'm surprised people haven't been calling Dragon's Dogma a soulslike but I guess they're too grandfathered in
They need people to believe its a souls like, how else are they going to pay the bills
I just hope we get some bangers in the ost
there better be fricking free aim
it's over, they added souls lock-on, zanzibart bosses, sekiro stagger bar, bonfire, runbacks, corpse runs, hidden walls and mimic chests....... the souls secondaries won.....
>zanzibart bosses
Ac4 had Zanzibart in the form of Thermidor way before souls even existed.
Now im confused. Og ac is short and mission based, butvthis one seems to have pretty large environments butvits still mission based. What if the game is kind of like Demon Souls where you a couple of large worlds instead of one giant interconnected one.
>What if the game is kind of like Demon Souls where you a couple of large worlds
It seems to be the case but they also mentioned how short missions are still in also.
>eceleb is a fricking moron
wow what else is new
AC wouldn't exist without souls
>hard lock on
FRICK off Black person
Im so hyped rn
>game is about mechs
>if it has RPG elements and you have to try and not to get hit to not die it's just like dark souls then
i've been playing souls like my entire life because now that i think of it, i usually do try and not to get hit in action games
who knew...
AC has more in common with fricking no more heroes and DMC games but i guess those are souls-likes too
DMC is Souls like
someday someone is going to go to vaati's house smear it in feces but unfortunately it's not easy for me to get the amount i'd need to really do a good job of it
So is your mom and she doesn't play half as hard to get lol
>DMC
>has lock on
>you can heal
>if you don't dodge you die
>has both melee and ranged options
>can even select your class in DMC3
yup, souls like
Source: MY ASS
The devs already debunked it. The only souls-like in this situation would be the bosses in terms of being memorable.
too bad it's about gay robots, so who cares
>moronic subhuman Fromdrone e-celeb cannot help but see Soulslike in fricking everything
I wish the most painful death on this bigger and that Vaatihomosexual. Oh they both also blindly shilled the DeS Demake.
They probably didn't know it's the other way around too, and that Souls games borrow from AC.
>Souls games borrow from AC.
recomposing this post because I felt I could illustrate the point better
different pieces have different weights, which affects your speed, energy regeneration, and capacity for dodging, and they have a slew of different stats including stagger resistance
the menu is arranged per piece sorted horizontally, with each slot providing a vertical submenu where you select individual pieces
while you have stats independent from your equipment, you can dynamically and drastically change your build at little commitment cost by simply equipping different gear.
given how every piece of equipment has its own niche, from the heaviest of the heavy weapons to its weaker but lighter variant, few weapons ever truly become obsolete as much as you find something that really clicks with you and suits your purposes
Am I talking about Souls games, or Armored Core?
In the most critical and fundamental part of any RPG game, your player character, you can see how AC games influenced their approach to Souls games. It would have been so easy to just make people replace their weapons as they get better ones entirely, without going through this side-grade with resource upgrade system, but From decided they wanted to make characters as modular as fricking mecha. Every other RPG is defined by hard commitment that you can't take back, the defining strengths of your build that work just for a few options at the cost of all others. Souls games have Strength daggers, magic maces, giant greatswords and little greatswords, variations of the same thing so you can fine tune a character to perform as you want them to.
Like a fricking AC.
I wonder what was the first RPG to make different equipments sidegrades, making every one you find useful in the future (putting aside stat allocations). In armored core, sure, there were a bunch of shitty parts but once you got past those, all the other parts competed with each other. And when I first picked up bloodborne, I was surprised at how all weapons weren't just wood sword -> iron sword -> steel sword etc but distinctly different weapons.
Finally someone who fricking gets it.
Correct, and that's why I love Souls and AC both. I want to experiment and not be too punished for my lack of commitment.
And further, what kind of RPG in the 00's era fricking sat down and did status effects the way DeS did it? If you wanted to poison an enemy, it was up to random chance whether you applied it or not. Enemies might have had no resistance to it, but it was still chance. If you wanted poison resistance, you'd equip some Ring of Poison Resistance, 50% chance to not get poisoned. Cloak of Snakes Bane, -25% poison damage per tick. Something like that. Chance, but no certainty.
It doesn't work like that in DeS. In DeS, it's a bar that fills up (though it doesn't show it, that's how it works), and once it does, you're poisoned. Why does it work like that? Because resistance is a number you stack. So how do you get more resistant to poison? You equip poison resistant gear. And this gear doesn't rely on chance, it relies on numbers, hard numbers, a big spreadsheet of numbers that each piece of equipment has and will not change. This foundation is not on dice, or chance. It's on numbers. It's on stats. You coming up with the idea of poistanking through 4 Kings with Havel's Armor and DMB Falchion begins and ends in the fricking Garage. You weren't handed that build at the start of the game, you conceived it.
And that's why Souls games at least began as RPGs for Armored Core fans. Nobody but Fromsoft could have made Souls games the way they did. Nobody had the perspective on equipment that they did.
monster hunter you fricking moron
the whole combat system is a bad attempt at mosnter hunter
>mh doesnt have magic spells
Armored core released for the first time some ten years before monster hunter.
shut the frick up.
and what the frick does that have to do with souls combat?
or how status builds up?
have a nice day souldrones
what?
I'm stating that Armored core, which had mechanics working on stats(like stagger) came out way before MH, and that From used that and their knowledge gained will making KF to make DeS. MH has nothing to do with anything.
But monster hunter sucked?
Borrow being dodgespam SHIT from 4skin.
TOTAL SOULSDRONE DEATH
Kill soulsdrones. Behead soulsdrones. Roundhouse kick a soulsdrone into the concrete. Slam dunk a soulsdrone's baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy souls fans.
and for the record, i love elden ring and sekiro
It's soulslike in that it has a lock on system now (oh no modern connivences in a video game!)
that's it
>Modern
AC was always ahead of the curve zoomie
>lock on
>a modern convenience
>your mech automatically facing the enemy at all times with zero input (skill) required
>>
frick off moron
god i hope its open world. All I want is an open world mech game.
It isn't, I'd also love an open-world mech game.
What does that even mean? Was Tomb Raider Soulslike? Third person action has always existed. We don't need zoomer game names for it.
>Iron Pineapple
Don't care what a gaytuber has to say
I'm not happy with repair kits, the turn speed, checkpoints and lack of radar, but I'm sure that I'll have fun with the game.
Wish we got a true successor to the PS2 titles, but that was only hopeful thinking.
I actually not stand what Dark Souls has done to you fricking idiots. The idea that a game with a lock on and a heal is as soulslike is so insane that I wonder if any of you can think beyond the first idiotic thing that pops into your tiny brains
Where did I say anything about souls?
dont worry someone will mode ac nexus controls in game
Dark Souls ruined gaming
nooooooooooo, some literal who on twitter said a thing, that must mean it's true...
Ok so is it actually "soulslike" or is it "soulslike" in that overused buzzword kind of way where moronic normalgay scum call fricking everything a soulslike?
Man who has only seen boss baby sees his second movie, says it's very boss baby.
I see they sucked all the soul out to appeal to zoomers. What a disappointment.
>posts soulless gameplay
4A players need to realize 4A was the wrong direction for the series especially now
this looks like one of those cyberpunk webms where they flay around like a sperg to make it look "cooler"
Man this is moronic, I'm glad we're not getting this
>I see they sucked all the soul out to appeal to zoomers
Its funny you say that while posting For Answer. It sucked the soul from all the AC games before it.
At least post missile art if you are going to shitpost with 4A
There isn't even any fricking music lmao
100% souls slop
Hard lock on is a dogshit mechanic that literally only exists because console kids are incapable of controlling their camera and moving at the same time. In most AC games even keeping a fast moving enemy on your screen is a real challenge so its pretty lame to just remove that skill from the game. I'm still going to have fun but the hard lock is a huge step (for the worse) towards playing like a souls game.
I'm just hoping the hard lock is limited to some really crap heads
Breaking lock is a thing multiple enemies have been able to do in the more recent games.
In general, lock exists because in 3rd person games, look direction is detached from actions, and your character will attack in your move direction. Lock allows to attack while strafing. If you want to get rid of lock, you'll need to make tour character attack in your look direction, like in shooters.
>ac fans getting filtered
>soulsgays getting filtered
kek, this game is gonna be good
>Its Souls if there's a hard lock on and you're doing melee attacks!
It looked closer to Zone of the Enders if anything, closer to DMC even.
it looked NOTHING like ZoE holy shit you people are delusional.
read again, smart guy
Don’t care, hate mecha shit.
Who you'll be watching for AC content fellow poorgays?
I'm gonna be playing the game
I asked the poorgays, not you with your fancy PC
Just buy a used PS4 for $100
>lock-on
Day 1 pirate. Shame, it seems like Fromsoft doesn't want my money and they'd rather pander to Soulsbab
Kino incoming
I lost interest as soon as I found out it's not fast as 4
Will they put Patches in this soulsbros?
He originated from AC, so I don't see why not.
>garage is just a blue screen and not an actual cool looking garage
frick man
same as every other entry dumbass
only last raven had a "garage" that actually was the main menu
>same as every other entry
doesn’t mean they have to do it again
not necessary
it's a menu for mid mission assembly
between mission one could be different
>m-muh woebot game
>mommy get my tendies ready so I can play transformers!!!!!
>Autobots ROOOOLLLLLL OUT
Not.Even.Once
Uh oh
OMG GUYS!!!!! A LITERAL WHO ON TWITTER SAID SOMETHING!! I NEED TO SCREEN CAP IT RIGHT NOW!!!!
Do it.
fuuuuuug gameplay looks anime af fr can't wait to gundam the shit out of stuff
>soulbabies will complain about it because it's not soulslike enough
>AC tards will complain about it because it's somewhat like souls
Another game discussion ruined forever.
Bros, never played AC before. Can this be played on PC with m+k?
Yes, it will control like the souls game with m+k
You can play anything you want with mouse and keyboard.
Old gen games can be played perfectly fine with only keyboard.
AC is just like any shooter, customize your gun with big numbers, point and shoot. Except you get bloated UI on your screen
But you FEEEL like controlling a mech
Except in most shooters, you don't customize your gun
>people doomposting that they turned it into a souls game
>homosexual soulstubers saying "uh it looks like a souls game"
>only remotely "souls" thing in the new trailer is a hard lock on that was already in AC4
So is this a case of soulsgays never having played the games assuming that dark souls invented shit that was already in older from games, let alone non-from games? I've seen gays like that max guy say shit like "AC6 needs X/Y/Z from souls to be successful!" Then it turns out all that shit was already in the games. Wait till these gays see the moonlight blade in the game and start baseding out about how it's a le heckin chungus dark souls reference lmfao.
Anything with a "camera behind your character" type of game is a soulslike, because Dark Souls was the first game that actually made it good and iconic.
It also has the staple Souls bosses.
Ocarina of Time did that 11 years before Demon's Souls.
Yes but it was shit.
Dark Souls wasn't.
Fextrashit, cant believe I used to watch his MH videos
1 trick pony
Having watched the gameplay footage it looks like it plays like a Gundam Vs game and less like your traditional AC. That's honestly fine by me, Gundam Vs games are mechanically great as far as fun goes, although it's disappointing that they're moving away from the traditional mechanics
>this game sucks, it's like Dark Souls!
no, it's like Sekiro
>Dark Souls didn't invent anything, it's not like Dark Souls!
yeah, it's like Sekiro
SEKICHADS WINNING AGAIN
I just want a good game and that looks good.
>babybossmovie.jpg
Some people here are b***hing about the bosses being slow and soulslike but what's the issue here? Most of the fights in AC against large enemies usually really sucked because they just stacked a bunch of guns on something or spamming bullets everywhere. Having them actually have attacks that can be avoided is fine and interesting. The best fights were the ones that were against AC-like mechs, like Exusia in Verdict Day.