It has its own square on the HUD, so they're likely active abilities.
Past ACs had stuff like orbits so it's probably for equipping things like that, EMP pulses, cloaking devices, flare launchers etc.
Really it's shoulder and hanger weapons that got the are. Few games actually let you set up multiple different boosters, most AC games one booster fits all and it's really kind of pointless to break them apart because you build acs to fit a role.
Hanger weapons and shoulder weapons are also always supplemental. Hanger weapons are back-ups if you run out of ammo, shoulder weapons are like extra missile interlocks for your missile, both of them don't have to exist as a seperate part.
What I'd really like to know is if they've kept Thermal damage type and resistances from 5.
>there's no way they dumbed down the customization, they would never change something integral to the series right? >especially since they already said they were going to do that anyway in favor of """""Meaningful""""" choices
Like it or not, the game isn't out and they have only showed some media people a slight intro video. We'll find out when actual people can play the game in some form.
There's been a display toggle for literally every AC game
Including 1 where it added basically no more information
11 months ago
Anonymous
's no way they dumbed down the customization, they would never change something integral to the series right?
since they already said they were going to do that anyway in favor of """""Meaningful""""" choices >there's no way they dumbed down the customization, they would never change something integral to the series right? >especially since they already said they were going to do that anyway in favor of """""Meaningful""""" choices
11 months ago
Anonymous
Define "dumb down". For instance inside parts were removed in 4 and V but I literally never used them.
Extensions were removed from 5 but soft added back in VD in the shoulder slot. Yet it's armor system made V the hardest to build for.
We simply don't know how it'll feel looking at the simple view of only a few parts
>Main Booster >Side Booster >Back Booster >Over Booster
The ps2/ps1 games didn't even have this. It was just Booster and Over Boost being a function of your Core.
And you forgot Radiator
>Main Booster >Side Booster >Back Booster >Over Booster
Literally not a thing in the majority of AC games. OB is core-specific, and Back Booster is universal.
>no extensions >possibly no weapon arms >core extension isn't tied to core part anymore so cores are just stat bricks again >no optional parts >you can shoot whatever you want whenever you want so arm/back weapon distinction doesn't fricking matter
Nu-garage seems extremely simplified.
No. WA's have always been in the arm slot. Anon, however, is moronic for suggesting there's even a chance we're not seeing weapon arms because of the five or six items we saw in each slot.
>however, is moronic for suggesting there's even a chance we're not seeing weapon arms because of the five or six items we saw in each slot.
That's what I used to say about extensions.
Because you don't necessarily want the same things with how you float and how you strafe or backpedal. But that also depended on AC4 having a lot more boost stats than other games while most ACs it was more or less just weight/power/EN cost
It was also just a hell of a lot more realistic because your AC had physically separate thrusters, but ACV changed that with how they were mounted. AC6 has physically separate back and side boosters but no separation for them in assembly which is gay and anti-immersion pilled.
Those variations actually do make a difference based on the power of what you want. Like if you want fasting side boosting or you don't care or the ability to go forward a lot better
I bet you also think that the stats are hyper simplified too despite most of the games making the stats seem simpler until you opened up the details and saw all the numbers and other stats.
The main, side, back, and over booster separation was the most moronic shit in AC4 and For Answer, and no other AC game did it. Glad its staying that way.
>people replying to this post with muh AC4
I've literally only played AC4 and he's wrong about that too
AC4 has the weapon's slots in a different screen. One screen for the frame/boosters/etc and the other for weapons.
Assuming there's some hardcore AC fans seething over this, help me out. Let's say I want to get into this series, and I have a Steam Deck. What do I emulate for a decent introduction?
The original trilogy is honestly a great starting point. 2 and 3 also good. You can also go straight to 4A/VD but they're pretty drastically different from the usual AC game which VI seems to be following.
>better missions than the first two games in every way [less airplanes, more MTs and enemy ACs, more variety and interesting mission settings/structures] >finally environments that aren't foggy just because drawdistance
Yeah but it's not like rebinding the camera to the dpad and face buttons is that bad. You just end up with stiffer dual analog style control if you do that.
It's my personal favorite. It's a bit too easy but I think the game strikes the perfect balance of speed and weight. VI looks pretty promising in that regard though.
No, 2 is
Literally nobody cared about the 3rd when it released, at that time I wasn't even racist and I disliked going from an Italian Renaissance setting to some fricking One Eyed White Feather gameplay with shit architecture
It was a massive downgrade
>Expansion (Nothing)
I'm not confident From would roll back on their autism so quickly. Basic, starting ACs probably have less customization options so newbies aren't overwhelmed.
Threadly reminder that Armored Reddit games were panned for decades and put on the bottom shelf of mecha games for their god awful floaty controls that feel like you’re piloting a gmod wiremod contraption instead of a mech
Everyone in these threads have never played armored core. However if people let fromsoft get away with the cash grab that was elden ring I doubt they’ll expect quality in a genre they’ve never even played
>for their god awful floaty controls
Was never a problem until bitter westerners in 2006 got jealous of japanese games being better lol
Read the reviews of the earlier games, controls were never a problem but of course you are just baiting
But i thought Dark Souls 3 was one of the best games i ever played. DS3/Bloodborne are about equal. But the other Souls Games i didn’t like. And Sekiro I didn’t either.
>ds3 was one of the best games I've ever played
Based. >ds3/bb about equal
Basado. >Didn't like the other souls games
Dangerously based. >Didn't like Sekiro
have a nice day.
There tends to be a very wide window of functional ACs you can still succeed with even if they're suboptimal. If you go too extreme, overweight ACs are useless and if your energy is constantly going into the red just from moving around you need to rethink.
expansions are more like extension parts, the EMP assault armor attack you see in the previous trailer is probably one of them. if EOs come back this is where they'd be too.
The future sucks and poors are fukt, but you are not a poor, you are giant robot pilot working for big money corpos and/or terrorists and you get to fight other homies in the same situation as you.
>you are not poor >contract says you get 10k dabloon for clapping some homies riding a mech >gets only like 3-5k profit after cutting the repair and ammo cost
you literally make a wagie income on ac universe. but at least you do it while riding a mech.
>work only by contract >you bring your own hardware >pay all the expense yourself (repair, ammo & damage reparation) >contract payment sometimes not enough to pay for your bullet
ac pilot basically an uber driver but with mech. ofc its wagie tier
i don't care and im not going to play it
i like souls games, i like medieval fantasy settings, i liked sekiro and bb, but i don't care about gay wapanese robots
could have been new soulslike game, but instead we get useless garbage game nobody except for 15 people all over the world care about
thank you, miyahacki
Probably when you felt the need to come in here and specifically say "Fromsoft should have made something else". If you played other games, you wouldn't care
Kek, honestly this is the only part I'm worried about, everything else looks fantastic but turn speed is basically no longer a factor it seems, you can even turn around completely while in midair and I like it but that's so not AC
AC is whatever Fromsoft says it is, you can have whatever preconceptions you want but ultimately it's up to the makers of the game, times change, game design changes, you can't expect them to recreate PS2 games 1:1 in this day and age
>AC is whatever Fromsoft says it is, you can have whatever preconceptions you want but ultimately it's up to the makers of the game, times change, game design changes, you can't expect them to recreate PS2 games 1:1 in this day and age
Oh boy… the release date isn’t that far away. That means the v hate machine is gearing up, just like for starfield. Time to stop participating in AC threads. I wonder if starfield players here are smart enough to do the same for that game they’re looking forward to.
When you know you’re going to like a game regardless of nitpicking, a person should really avoid threads here during the lead up to release and after until you complete it.
This is the sanest post I've seen all day. You're right, participating in discussing any game on this website is putting myself in the same room with people that doompost, seethe over irl politics, or contrarian bandwagoners. Nobody that cares about video games.
I'm just gonna go play the games I just got on sale and wait up til release.
I'm just not participating in any more AC threads until all the secondaries leave, it's not that hard. There's other games to talk about that aren't being targeted by contrarians right now.
I can't even imagine how insufferable you moronic Black folk would have been in previous game launches.
>WHAT? THEY REMOVED NONSTOP OVERHEATING FROM NEXUS? NOOOO THE GAME IS CASUALIZED CAWADOOTY >OH MY GOD THEY ADDED DUAL STICK CAMERA CONTROLS????? I'M GOING FRICKING INSAAAAAAAAAAANE NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>Hard lock
Wow it's literally Souls, every single game with a lock-on system is also Souls, and every single game heedless of mechanics can be considered Souls just because it has a lock-on system. I kneel, Soulsgods.
I'm sorry... You tried to warn us but we didn't listen... I thought that you were just mocking us but I was fooling myself trying to escape the truth... I kneel.
If you guys are turning away mechagays then it's genuinely over. I respect the gatekeeping though. I still need to try AC1 again, I booted it up last month without even looking at the game manual so I had no fricking clue what any of my buttons were for the first fight it throws you into
You misunderstand, these are the kind of people who played AC in the first place. I thought it was going to be a soulsgay shitpost but its just the kind of homosexual who plays mecha games anyway >inb4 someone tries to say there weren't people who played zoom zoom shit and slow stuff who played all generations of AC
>there will be countless AC-likes that completely miss the point of the game they copy which itself is completely missing the point of its own series
Mechabros... We are completely and utterly fricked...
AC has had a revamp in game design every generation, this shouldn't be a surprise. Funny how most of the things people are complaining about are already present in one or two of the previous games.
4th and 5th gens aren't real AC
Analog stick aiming shouldn't be in AC either, so Nexus, Nine Breaker and Silent line aren't real AC
Every AC game should play exactly like AC1, the only true hardcore AC
Why does this board hate Souls? One of the only modern franchise that doesnt cater to baby brained casuals and actually has interesting art and level design. Oh wait, you guys don't like video games, just jerking off to anime waifus. Makes sense
Ganker loves hentai and watching cutscenes but hates interesting gameplay mechanics which is why you guys are going so crazy for FFXVI and shitting on AC6
I remember jet packing over enemies in Souls and shooting them with my missile launcher and boost dashing into a melee combo. Just like Elden Ring, shameful
Thanks for confirming that you've never played Armored Core. I accept your concession.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>N-NO IT IS LIKE SOULS. YOU CAN LOCK ONTO ENEMIES NOW >YES, 95% OF THE MECHANICS ARE DIFFERENT, BUT THE 5% MAKES IT EXACTLY THE SAME
11 months ago
Anonymous
You've never played Armored Core. There's no reason to flail around like a little baby just because you got exposed.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>tfw armored core 2 was the first game i played on PS2 >gay only has one argument and he made it up
11 months ago
Anonymous
And Armored Core on the PS1 was my first game. There's no point in needlessly dickwaving, especially when you can't recognize what's wrong with the webm. It makes me more inclined to believe that you don't know what you're talking about.
11 months ago
Anonymous
nta
It's 100% gonna be very souls like in it's approach to design with massive telegraphed attack bosses and dodge mechanics, but instead of roll we get boost, and instead magic - rockets.
I do not consider it a bad thing, but old timers gonna seethe.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Wow so monhun is a soulsgame?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Souls isn't just telegraphed attacks and a lock on though lol. The slow, deliberate combat and branching level design are the core identifiers of a Souls game, which this game has neither of. Oldgays are just mad more people are going to get to experience this kino because they added sorely needed QoL improvements
11 months ago
Anonymous
they literally described different paths you can take and how combat is more methodical
11 months ago
Anonymous
"more methodical" does not mean "slow and deliberate." Tell me which Souls game allows you to move this fast with this much fluidity and verticality.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Looks like Sekiro with robots to me
11 months ago
Anonymous
What's it like being blind and moronic? I didn't know y'all could post on forums, how do you do the captcha?
11 months ago
Anonymous
You have no point of reference to what Armored Core is or why this is 90% of the way in the opposite direction, so shut up you quadruple Black person
11 months ago
Anonymous
bloodborne and sekiro weren't exactly slow >Tell me which Souls game allows you to move this fast with this much fluidity and verticality.
but it literally changes nothing tho? it still plays exactly like dark souls. verticality means nothing when it's basically you pressing or holding jump
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're arguing in bad faith if you're saying that Bloodborne is as fast as this lmao. Even Sekiro is substantially slower.
>never played the game >seen 4 minutes of gameplay >"it still plays exactly like dark souls"
11 months ago
Anonymous
it doesn't NEED TO BE AS FAST AS ANYTHING motherfricker
speed doesn't change the combat loop, camera controls and hard lock-on
11 months ago
Anonymous
No need to get angry, anon. I know it hurts to be wrong, but you'll forget about this thread soon. I can't wait to enjoy this kino, just preordered it on Steam 🙂
Enjoy FFXVI i know movies are more your speed
11 months ago
Anonymous
I am literally 100% right tho
11 months ago
Anonymous
And Bloodborne literally plays like AC, you dash around 20 fricking times, shoot and attack.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I mean.. yeah
I unironically thought that you can change hunter to a mech and it will be a decent mecha game while I was playing it
11 months ago
Anonymous
It can be fast and methodical.
It's already much more than 4 and 4A.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>ARMORED CORE 6 IS SUPER CASUALIZED
Yeah.. no shit. If you were expecting a real Armored Core sequel, you're naive as frick.
I actually preordered this lol. I'm refunding it, frick this shit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Good, frick off. I'm a former AC vet and I'm stoked, I'm glad you're being filtered already.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm actually a veteran >veteran >of playing a video game
Are you guys all this huge of homosexuals?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks for giving up your place for me bro.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I actually preordered this lol
No you didn't lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
This looks so fricking cool, I'm running this build in my first playthrough (alternating with chadquads).
11 months ago
Anonymous
I hope there's more than one gotta go fast builds.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If you look closely, the orange and red ACs have different legs, judging by the looks the red one is even faster.
>One of the only modern franchise that doesnt cater to baby brained casuals
Normalhomosexuals steamroll it in coop.
Also souls combat is dogshit. It's a literal rhythm game. People who praise it have never played any other action games.
Rhythm games aren't games, they are toys. There is no gameplay, no mechanics, no interacting systems, just a braindead repetitive task to burn into your muscle memory and execute.
Most people here do still love From and their games, stop letting the shitposting morons influence you. Pretty much every game since the original DeS has been excellent to me and AC6 looks superb, especially after seeing these gameplay clips. This shit is going to be so fricking good.
I despise any game that gets too popular. DMC was great until too many people played it, Souls was fun until it gained a fandom. Fricking normalgays take everything from me. The only series I care about somewhat anymore is Ninja Gaiden because not too many people talk about it, but do you have any idea how fricking annoying it is to have to wallow in a sea of subpar action games just because I refuse to be a sheep who plays FOTM?
I really like souls and played all of them, even though now they're starting to get stale, what I hate is the souls fanbase, they're absolute cancer and incredibly obnoxious, rarely you see people so far up their own ass.
The old games sold like shit because they were too clunky and that made them unpopular and killed this franchise for a decade. If you didn't expect modern controls and adaptations to systems you're moronic, simple as. Also, funny how you made this meme thinking it made you look good when the bird telling you you've never played Armored Core is an actual Raven and you're not.
I don't understand, the only AC games I really enjoyed were 4 and 4A and 6 looks incredible. I'm fairly confident it'll be my favorite after seeing this footage.
I HAVE TWO CONCERNS >Generators have a cooling stat, but no cooling element to the hud
So is that your stagger? That wouldn't really make sense and would make the generator a god part >3 instant repairs, instant garage, and repair refills
Sounds way too easy
AND THEN A THIRD THING >Souls.lock on mode, but even with parts being condensed FCS gets it's own part slot
So...what does it do?
Having both lock ons available is a real masterstroke. Nice compromise for AC fans and souls babies
>FCS gets it's own part slot >So...what does it do?
Same thing it did in AC4. Lock speed, lock distance, maximum number of locks, quality of lock, resistance to lock interference.
I don't think lock speed is a thing anymore because it's incompatible with souls lock on.
Those other stats, sure, but that's not a lot of parameters
If they combined generators and radiators I'm surprised they didn't combine, say, FCS and Head
I'm aware, I'm just highlighting you can negate the drawbacks of an on paper shit FCS with it. Just get close enough and be a 1v1 god
[...] >would make the generator a god part
Always has been
[...]
Missile lock speed will always be a thing. They could still have some accuracy stats in there.
>Always has been
Fair >Missile locks
IDK. I never really used missiles. Maybe with stagger and burst damage they'll be godly. I think the four shoulder attacks also help them as it's a button you only need to tap for damage, not have a finger over at all times
>I don't think lock speed is a thing anymore because it's incompatible with souls lock on.
Souls lock keep your camera following enemy.
FCS locks on enemy while you have line of sight on them.
Souls camera tracking seems to pause when boosting so FCS lock might reset if you break line of sight like with droideka encounter in the video.
Then camera catches up with the enemy once you're done boosting and FCS locks on them again.
>would make the generator a god part
Always has been
I don't think lock speed is a thing anymore because it's incompatible with souls lock on.
Those other stats, sure, but that's not a lot of parameters
If they combined generators and radiators I'm surprised they didn't combine, say, FCS and Head
Missile lock speed will always be a thing. They could still have some accuracy stats in there.
I’ve only beaten the PS1 trilogy so maybe this becomes a thing in the later games, but how is instant garage not horrible game design and a complete misunderstanding of what AC is?
One of the defining characteristics of old AC was the problem solving element of AC building and having to commit to your “solution” in a high stakes environment… I really hope this doesn’t end up as one of those > Win in YOUR way!
baby mode borderlands Bethesda games.
Not like souls equipment. He had to die and then was able to checkpoint in as a different AC as opposed to running the whole mission as it. He also said something about finding a garage? Like that's the checkpoint? I dunno
Basically if you hit a wall post checkpoint you can build a hard counter. Seems way too easy. I like to build toolbox generalist but this game is very built for constant swapping of specialized designs.
>wanting to have to replay an entire mission, the worst part of old AC games >mad about checkpoints that allow for more interesting level design as you don't have to run the same mech for the entire mission >"if something's frustrating, it must be good!"
More like I enjoyed seeing the entire mission as a puzzle to solve and had to build a solution for it.
If you lost it was either very close (which would be a skill thing, just try again and play a bit better), or you got blown the frick out (back to the garage. What do I NEED, vs what do I WANT?)
Noe the puzzle is smaller. It's the same loop but 2-3 per mission as opposed to one. Easier puzzle is an easier game
11 months ago
Anonymous
>old games: one puzzle per mission >new games: 2-3 puzzles per mission >you: old game harder
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Solve 20 variables
Vs >Solve 5 variables 3 times
Also I just said it'd be easier. Which it objectively will be and I prefer a challenge. I'm sure I'll still get my money's worth and enjoy myself. Just feel like it along with the repairs and repair refills take it a bit too far. I mostly play them for the gameplay and build autism so challenge is tertiary concern at best but don't get mad at me for wanting to be totally satisfied as opposed to mostly satisfied.
Old AC games were all piss easy and you're delusional if you think otherwise. I admit I used to think this way too since I played 75% of the titles as a literal teenager but going back and playing them as an adult? Fricking cakewalk. Complaining the new games seem easy is a non-issue when AC has never actually been difficult. And no, Souls games aren't hard either.
Verdict Day, the best armored core game, is pretty difficult. Same with Last Raven which is my second favorite.
Overall though, yeah, it's rare to find a lot of challenge in most AC games save for maybe in the arena. Even then you can just build a tank with a flamethrower.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Old AC games were all piss easy and you're delusional if you think otherwise. I admit I used to think this way too since I played 75% of the titles as a literal teenager but going back and playing them as an adult? Fricking cakewalk. Complaining the new games seem easy is a non-issue when AC has never actually been difficult. And no, Souls games aren't hard either.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>old ac games were all piss easy >that's why I like free repairs, checkpoints and hard locks
11 months ago
Anonymous
The missions might be harder to justify these things. Stop screaming the sky is falling before the game is even out.
>Solve 20 variables
Vs >Solve 5 variables 3 times
Also I just said it'd be easier. Which it objectively will be and I prefer a challenge. I'm sure I'll still get my money's worth and enjoy myself. Just feel like it along with the repairs and repair refills take it a bit too far. I mostly play them for the gameplay and build autism so challenge is tertiary concern at best but don't get mad at me for wanting to be totally satisfied as opposed to mostly satisfied.
[...]
Verdict Day, the best armored core game, is pretty difficult. Same with Last Raven which is my second favorite.
Overall though, yeah, it's rare to find a lot of challenge in most AC games save for maybe in the arena. Even then you can just build a tank with a flamethrower.
Verdict Day isn't hard. I did the entire game with a medium bipedal using HEAT cannon weapon arms and dual rifles. I didn't change my build fricking once and barely ever experienced even a crumb of difficulty.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>well you get three heals, respawns in new mechs, instant turns and hard locks but maybe the quests will be super duper hard because there will be a lot of enemies
anon..
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The missions might be harder to justify these things
It took like 4 souls games for them to figure out how to make them hard. Lock on based AC is basically new so they'll have to do that dance all over again.
>made a shit mech? ok bro just hot swap lol >took too much damage because you suck? THREE ESTU- REPAIRS! that can be upgraded and expanded later >you're too moronic to move? it's ok the game will turn your mech for you
bonfires soon, screencap this
The braindead Jannies at /m/ banned me for telling on of the morons crosspost raiding from here to frick off (most likely a janny himself).
Anyway
[...]
There's people confirming the quickturns are manual, also we have confirmation that there is soft and hard lock on that you can toggle on and off, there's simply no way that the lock on takes away quickturn control from you bro.
Nice, hope is restored. They seem to be trying to close the gap between DS and AC but not in a way that's insulting to AC fans. This trailer has me very optimistic, I think it could be the best AC yet but I need to hear about pvp arena before I'm completely sold. The story mode is nice but the online is what will get the most replay value from me.
It has three free repairs at any time and you're likely going to be able to upgrade them, it's the exact mechanic they used in Dark Souls, stop being moronic
>bonfires
You are so stupid holy shit, checkpoints have existed for decades yet because you clearly have only played dark souls game you dont know that. >hard lock
The game has always had lock on features, the hard lock you can also turn off..
do the check points reset enemies and do your repair kits refill at them? because those are how bonfires and estus work.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You can literally rebuild your mech at checkpoints
11 months ago
Anonymous
so does that refill your repair kits and enemies or
11 months ago
Anonymous
So that's the new cope? fair enough, let's wait until they confirm the refill
>bonfires
You are so stupid holy shit, checkpoints have existed for decades yet because you clearly have only played dark souls game you dont know that. >hard lock
The game has always had lock on features, the hard lock you can also turn off..
>everyone who criticizes casual core 6 only played Dark Souls
I don't even like Dark Souls
11 months ago
Anonymous
if by cope you mean you just got caught talking out of your ass, sure.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah just like hard lock and instant turns for casuals wouldn't be a thing
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I don't even like Dark Souls
Yet your stupid ass used it as a comparison.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>wow this looks like shit >SO YOU LIKE SHIT? WHY ARE YOU USING IT FOR COMPARISON
anon, you're moronic, that's all
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oh god now your coping
11 months ago
Anonymous
Does being able to magically change your mech mid mission depending on whatever is easiest make the game easier, as was the original question?
>it doesn't have to focus on ranged combat >it doesn't need real opponents in the arena that send you angry emails >it doesn't need overed weapons >it doesn't need optional parts >it doesn't need extensions >it doesn't need radiators >it doesn't need inside parts >it doesn't need different damage types >it doesn't need to require skill to avoid damage >it doesn't need to make you think which weapon to have equipped >it doesn't need to have limited turn speed >it doesn't need a lockbox >it doesn't need not to have hard lock-on
WE ARE NOW HERE >it doesn't need bunnyhopping >it doesn't need hanger weapons >it doesn't need weapon arms >it doesn't need transforming weapon arms >it doesn't need hover legs >it doesn't need purging >it doesn't need tuning >it doesn't need to make you tailor your AC to the mission at hand >it doesn't need energy management >it doesn't need ammo and repair costs >FCS doesn't need to affect anything but missile lock >it doesn't need back weapons to be different >it doesn't need consorts/UNACs >it doesn't need unlocked fps >it doesn't need good netcode >it doesn't need Nineball >it doesn't need emails >it doesn't need emblem editor >it doesn't need post-game and Hard Mode >it doesn't need catchy garage theme >it doesn't need Kawamori >it doesn't need FreQuency >it doesn't need triple digits amount of parts >it doesn't need garage to be more than just cosmetic >it doesn't need to be a Mecha game >it doesn't need to be an Armored Core game >it doesn't need to not be Dark Souls 2 II: Episode 2
I love how all the people hating on this are people who don't care about Armored Core in the first place. Actual fans would rather have a new game to digest than another fantasy Souls title. Each game has made changes to the formula throughout the years, this is no different. If the game is good, I don't care if it has Z-Targeting and Motor Oil Flasks. I'm just pumped for a new AC game with new music, plus it's finally on PC so the multiplayer won't die as soon as the next gen consoles come out.
>if you're a real AC fan you should be excited for it >even if it's nothing like an AC game
Yes the game's changed but there were certain things that never changed that did change here. The camera/lock being the biggest one. That's the one that makes it feel like a fricking mech and not just some dude in a robot costume.
Also the stat screen is hilariously barebones even by AC1 standards.
makes sure it feels like piloting a giant robot even when flying at the speed of sound
and you morons hated that and complained it was turning into fricking gundam and shit, shut up already, your just another moron who thinks his opinion is valuable.
Well if it's anything like Souls you can just not use the Z-targeting. AC has never been about manual aiming anyway, it's always been about positioning and maintaining optimal range other than of a few weapons.
Frick you. If I feel miserable constantly about the degradation of gaming, the slow rotting of society and the zero chances I have at a happy life due to israelites and various other factors, I see no reason why anyone else should be happy about anything. If that requires me to shitpost every single AC thread from here on until release, I'll do it. If I can't be happy, none of you deserve to be.
Thanks for admitting it at least. I hope you find solace at some point.
This. Real AC fans are hyped, doomposters are just newhomosexuals who probably started with emulator.
>it's always been about positioning and maintaining optimal range other than of a few weapons.
And that was based around the way moving and aiming worked. Which lock on completely changes.
>have a gun with great damage and range >give it a tiny lock box
You're conflating lock-on with z-targeting. All the games have lock-on. Z-targeting just manages your camera for you.
You Black folk know what the frick I'm referring to. Literally the first thing you needed to learn in every style of AC game in ACvAC combat was how to maneuver yourself in such a way to keep yourself out of the enemies range.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>visual range
Meant to say. I was dogfighting in giant robots
11 months ago
Anonymous
And you'll still need to do that, you can just see your enemy centered in the screen if you choose to use the z-targeting. You're making a mountain out of a molehill. Personally, I'm more concerned about how the healing is going to affect the balancing between light and heavy AC's, but I'm not going to boycott the game because of it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>And you'll still need to do that, you can just see your enemy centered in the screen if you choose to use the z-targeting.
We already know the game has instant turning even without QB. Sorry anon, no more getting behind your enemy and using superior mobility to your advantage.
its over
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't think anyone in this thread have said "ITS OVER" or boycott. Just certain things they're concerned about here or there.
Like I think it's going to feel too easy with the checkpoint garage and repairs, but I'll still probably enjoy it overall
Some are concerned about the customization, which is fair
I'm personally less concerned because there was enough considerations in 1 which had even less parts and stats, and I'm used to new numbers feeling thin on parts compared to previous generations.
Frick you. If I feel miserable constantly about the degradation of gaming, the slow rotting of society and the zero chances I have at a happy life due to israelites and various other factors, I see no reason why anyone else should be happy about anything. If that requires me to shitpost every single AC thread from here on until release, I'll do it. If I can't be happy, none of you deserve to be.
Frick you. If I feel miserable constantly about the degradation of gaming, the slow rotting of society and the zero chances I have at a happy life due to israelites and various other factors, I see no reason why anyone else should be happy about anything. If that requires me to shitpost every single AC thread from here on until release, I'll do it. If I can't be happy, none of you deserve to be.
It's not. People calling it soulslike are moronic. We just have hard lock-on and turn fast now. Repair kits aren't really estus when we don't have a version that restores ammo. There's still no i-frames, there's still no invasions.
It was, it made you feel like you were a pilot in a mecha suit and not just controlling a game character. Overcoming the limitations and mastering the system was rewarding and cool.
AC is a mission-based mech combat game
It has almost nothing in common with the souls games
If you want to compare against something then ace combat has more in common
Looking at the gameplay the thing that worries me is: what exactly is keeping you from just keeping max distance from enemies and shoot them till they're dead? The boss they showed seemed incredibly easy to avoid.
>fromsoft could be making sekiro 2 or bloodborne 2 or even a fricking bloodborne pc port >instead they make some gay babby mecha game that only literal autists like
I would be happy with even Dark Souls 4 or Demon Souls 2(PS5 exclusive obviously).
Even a Kings Field remake but with Souls gameplay and in third person would have been good.
Another project which would be cool would be a Tenchu remake but with Souls style gameplay instead of Sekiro, or maybe an Otogi remake but with iconic souls style gameplay too, the possibilities are endless with a Souls style gameplay by your side.
>Even a Kings Field remake but with Souls gameplay and in third person would have been good.
Souls gameplay would be so much better as a dungeon crawler it's not even funny.
I don't think they ever quite figured out how big they want those to be, since even 2 (which is the same universe) scaled them up from 1.
Yeah, it looks like 2 might be a fair bit taller than 1. An AC1 Armored Core might be 4-6 meters at best while the ones in 2 look like they might be bigger.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Weirdly enough in 2AA you fight an AC 1 AC and they're a hair taller and more lanky looking
The most hysterical scare brain teaser is in Verdict Day. In multiplayer if you got shot down you could still participate as an infinity respawning pilot which died in one hit and had a 1 damage gun (either energy or kinetic). You were either a dude with a jetpack or a Shinobi holding on to a giant raven
The problem was you were fricking massive, smaller than an AC, sure, but if you went up to a car model your body was bigger than a whole humvee. It was pretty funny
>never played Armored Core >AC6 trailer comes out >figure I'd finally try it, try out AC4
And as expected of From, the camera handled like absolute fricking shit. For different reasons than Souls games but it was still absolute fricking ass.
The fact you've got two modes is probably going to help the worst of it.
>Everyone trying so hard to be the hardcore og AC vet
I just want better enemies. Building the robots were the most fun back then because the enemies were so damn boring.
>Expansion (Nothing)
Expansions are probably options/internal parts. Basically accessories with passive buffs
It has its own square on the HUD, so they're likely active abilities.
Past ACs had stuff like orbits so it's probably for equipping things like that, EMP pulses, cloaking devices, flare launchers etc.
I know you are joel, go stream homosexual
i tried
Blessed post.
Put me in the screencap.
its really not that funny
AC BROS WE ARE BACK PHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
Didn't even bother editing it to "expand" instead of expansion.
motherfricker
GOTY GOTY GOTY GOTY
this is why i lurk these fricking boards, its the little things
i don get it
it says dong under expansion. its a penis joke.
oh
*slaps ur ass*
heh, dong.
well done kiddo.
Explain this to someone who only played AC3 back 1939 on PanzerStation Zwei and has zero memories of it. How many slots is enough?
128 not including cosmetics
I will now buy your game!
Never played an armored core game, only souls games and elden ring
I will now buy your game 😀
Me too,but only if you can dodge roll, that would it officially a Souls-lite
Previously it was:
>Head
>Core
>Arms
>Legs
>Main Booster
>Side Booster
>Back Booster
>Over Booster
>FCS
>Generator
>Arm Weapons
>Back weapons
>Shoulder weapons
>Hanger weapons
Will it make much difference?
Probably not really.
Really it's shoulder and hanger weapons that got the are. Few games actually let you set up multiple different boosters, most AC games one booster fits all and it's really kind of pointless to break them apart because you build acs to fit a role.
Hanger weapons and shoulder weapons are also always supplemental. Hanger weapons are back-ups if you run out of ammo, shoulder weapons are like extra missile interlocks for your missile, both of them don't have to exist as a seperate part.
What I'd really like to know is if they've kept Thermal damage type and resistances from 5.
>What I'd really like to know is if they've kept Thermal damage type and resistances from 5.
They didn't
We don't know that yet. There's a display toggle option on the menu no one has seen yet.
>there's no way they dumbed down the customization, they would never change something integral to the series right?
>especially since they already said they were going to do that anyway in favor of """""Meaningful""""" choices
Like it or not, the game isn't out and they have only showed some media people a slight intro video. We'll find out when actual people can play the game in some form.
There's been a display toggle for literally every AC game
Including 1 where it added basically no more information
's no way they dumbed down the customization, they would never change something integral to the series right?
since they already said they were going to do that anyway in favor of """""Meaningful""""" choices
>there's no way they dumbed down the customization, they would never change something integral to the series right?
>especially since they already said they were going to do that anyway in favor of """""Meaningful""""" choices
Define "dumb down". For instance inside parts were removed in 4 and V but I literally never used them.
Extensions were removed from 5 but soft added back in VD in the shoulder slot. Yet it's armor system made V the hardest to build for.
We simply don't know how it'll feel looking at the simple view of only a few parts
the kinetic-chemical-thermal triangle of fifth gen was NOT good
>Main Booster
>Side Booster
>Back Booster
>Over Booster
This is fricking stupid.
t. emulated 3 and Silent Line earlier this year
>Main Booster
>Side Booster
>Back Booster
>Over Booster
The ps2/ps1 games didn't even have this. It was just Booster and Over Boost being a function of your Core.
And you forgot Radiator
>Main Booster
>Side Booster
>Back Booster
>Over Booster
Literally not a thing in the majority of AC games. OB is core-specific, and Back Booster is universal.
>no extensions
>possibly no weapon arms
>core extension isn't tied to core part anymore so cores are just stat bricks again
>no optional parts
>you can shoot whatever you want whenever you want so arm/back weapon distinction doesn't fricking matter
Nu-garage seems extremely simplified.
>possibly no weapon arms
Weren't they in weapon slot anyway?
No. WA's have always been in the arm slot. Anon, however, is moronic for suggesting there's even a chance we're not seeing weapon arms because of the five or six items we saw in each slot.
>however, is moronic for suggesting there's even a chance we're not seeing weapon arms because of the five or six items we saw in each slot.
That's what I used to say about extensions.
Only in 4/FA.
I don't think you actually changed all those boosters individually.
You did in AC4 and ACFA
>Main Booster
>Side Booster
>Back Booster
>Over Booster
why not just make booster 1 thing
at most make it booster and over booster
because you could put a cheap side, main, back or over booster depending on whether you are going to rush in, strafe or stay in the air
Because you don't necessarily want the same things with how you float and how you strafe or backpedal. But that also depended on AC4 having a lot more boost stats than other games while most ACs it was more or less just weight/power/EN cost
It was also just a hell of a lot more realistic because your AC had physically separate thrusters, but ACV changed that with how they were mounted. AC6 has physically separate back and side boosters but no separation for them in assembly which is gay and anti-immersion pilled.
Those variations actually do make a difference based on the power of what you want. Like if you want fasting side boosting or you don't care or the ability to go forward a lot better
I bet you also think that the stats are hyper simplified too despite most of the games making the stats seem simpler until you opened up the details and saw all the numbers and other stats.
The main, side, back, and over booster separation was the most moronic shit in AC4 and For Answer, and no other AC game did it. Glad its staying that way.
>IT WAS ALWAYS <something unique to AC4>
><Common to majority of armored core games> ISNT ARMORED CORE
I fricking hate 4rrys so God damn much. How good 4A was isn't worth you human+ rejects
>people replying to this post with muh AC4
I've literally only played AC4 and he's wrong about that too
AC4 has the weapon's slots in a different screen. One screen for the frame/boosters/etc and the other for weapons.
so, just like armored core 1?
>that waist
I could fricking split that fricker in half with a single kick
Based Front Mission 3 enjoyer
what
I haven't played that game
HOLY BASED
IS THAT....
>tfw Angela invites a mech to the library.
>back to ps1 AC style
kino
they should take the lock on to that era again and force you to actually try to maintain lock
So we can have dual wielding, but no right arm swords?
For what purpose?
>For what purpose?
What the frick do you even mean? Only a moron would go in with their laser swords as their primary method of attack.
Only a chad would, you mean.
Guns/rockets are the main attack.
Swords are the specialized attack.
Just like in BB the guns are for parrying and some light damage while melee weapons are the main workhorse.
THANKS MIYAZAKI
perpetual shitter hack
Assuming there's some hardcore AC fans seething over this, help me out. Let's say I want to get into this series, and I have a Steam Deck. What do I emulate for a decent introduction?
The original trilogy is honestly a great starting point. 2 and 3 also good. You can also go straight to 4A/VD but they're pretty drastically different from the usual AC game which VI seems to be following.
The original trilogy has aged badly and AC gays refuse to admit it.
Starting with 3 is fine. Rubicon is giving clear signals it's following 3's style in some/many respects.
Is AC3 considered the "best" AC game or something?
Yes
>better missions than the first two games in every way [less airplanes, more MTs and enemy ACs, more variety and interesting mission settings/structures]
>finally environments that aren't foggy just because drawdistance
but no analogue sticks is hard to go back too...
Yeah but it's not like rebinding the camera to the dpad and face buttons is that bad. You just end up with stiffer dual analog style control if you do that.
It's my personal favorite. It's a bit too easy but I think the game strikes the perfect balance of speed and weight. VI looks pretty promising in that regard though.
it's the easiest and most beginner friendly
No, 2 is
Literally nobody cared about the 3rd when it released, at that time I wasn't even racist and I disliked going from an Italian Renaissance setting to some fricking One Eyed White Feather gameplay with shit architecture
It was a massive downgrade
The controls of the original trilogy are complete dogshit anon. I still have nightmares with climbing cubes.
As a lifetime fan of this franchise I can't wait for AC6 to drop so I can play an Armored Core vidya for the first time.
Same here, except ironically.
Also, multiplayer AC gameplay on steam.
If the other older fromsoft titles are anything to go by, I doubt AC games are worth trying out. Fromsoft was the definition of a b tier developer.
Just just condensed boosters into one.
Not the end of the world.
>Expansion (Nothing)
I'm not confident From would roll back on their autism so quickly. Basic, starting ACs probably have less customization options so newbies aren't overwhelmed.
you dont need 4 booster slots
I hate that robot design, the ones from the ps1 games were much better
The trailers & gameplay have shown much more conventional straight-upright bipeds. There's just a lot of design diversity between parts.
ikr, AC 3 made them all too pointy
mechs aren't real
can't wait to jab shitters on pvp.
My AC will be called Pfizer JAB
Threadly reminder that Armored Reddit games were panned for decades and put on the bottom shelf of mecha games for their god awful floaty controls that feel like you’re piloting a gmod wiremod contraption instead of a mech
Everyone in these threads have never played armored core. However if people let fromsoft get away with the cash grab that was elden ring I doubt they’ll expect quality in a genre they’ve never even played
>for their god awful floaty controls
Was never a problem until bitter westerners in 2006 got jealous of japanese games being better lol
Read the reviews of the earlier games, controls were never a problem but of course you are just baiting
I didn’t like elden ring.
But i thought Dark Souls 3 was one of the best games i ever played. DS3/Bloodborne are about equal. But the other Souls Games i didn’t like. And Sekiro I didn’t either.
Congratulations, you have profound mental moronation and lack a soul.
>Sounds like he's got a DARK SOUL
>ds3 was one of the best games I've ever played
Based.
>ds3/bb about equal
Basado.
>Didn't like the other souls games
Dangerously based.
>Didn't like Sekiro
have a nice day.
Compared to LR, it's lacking internal, radiator and hangar L/R units, of which only one really matters. How exactly is that "super casualized"?
Never played Souls games, by the way.
name the top 5 mecha games
Don't care
Still buying Armored Core 6
The only thing it's lacking is Radiator and Inner, and those both weren't even in the first 2.
And honestly frick heat.
So no more radiators and overheating? Might be a huge frickin' relief.
I sure hope quick-boosting is still here though.
It is.
The assembly system looks overwhelming. How much does it punish you for just fricking around and not minmaxing like a turboautist?
There tends to be a very wide window of functional ACs you can still succeed with even if they're suboptimal. If you go too extreme, overweight ACs are useless and if your energy is constantly going into the red just from moving around you need to rethink.
It won't punish you per se but build autism is very much a main draw of the series
Armored Core generally is not that difficult apart from few missions every game
What do you mean "only 12"? The only thing cut is shoulder attachments. A whopping -1 reduction.
>hangar weapons
>inside parts
>inside parts
That's literally what Expansion is.
>hangar weapons
Some of the most poorly balanced, badly thought out shit and I'm glad it's gone.
No, Expansions are probably the optional parts, inside parts are the goofy shit like decoys and auxiliary rockets
expansions are more like extension parts, the EMP assault armor attack you see in the previous trailer is probably one of them. if EOs come back this is where they'd be too.
They mostly cut the different boosters, but even then, it could be a parameter inside each booster.
the track that plays during the bossfight already sounds pretty great damn
None of these manufacturers are the same as before are they?
Also, where shoulder emblem?
>4 boosters fused into 1
>no stabilizers
lol
LOL
>4babby
>brainlet can't count to 4
L O L
Pointless bloat.
Just like their previous game. Man homosexuals are annoying.
mad cause we're better than you
>Watching Transformers for first time
>Cannot unsee Armored Cores as Transformers
Halp
>Watching Transformers for first time
I need to leave this place
I never got into it as a kid, stfu.
>watching lord of the rings for first time
>can't unsee any fantasy as lord of the rings
fricking moron AC robots don't even look like transformers
But they could reshape themselves into jets or trucks if they wanted to.
Keen-minded fellow you are.
This is about as much customization options as we had in classic AC. Only 4babbies will seethe about this.
When was the last time From Software make a good game? How many ages ago?
quick question
never played armored core before
can you clap a homie up in this series?
The future sucks and poors are fukt, but you are not a poor, you are giant robot pilot working for big money corpos and/or terrorists and you get to fight other homies in the same situation as you.
can you clap them up tho?
Depends, in 4A you dabbled in some genocide
>you are not poor
>contract says you get 10k dabloon for clapping some homies riding a mech
>gets only like 3-5k profit after cutting the repair and ammo cost
you literally make a wagie income on ac universe. but at least you do it while riding a mech.
Wouldn't wagie be more like a MT/normal pilot?
>work only by contract
>you bring your own hardware
>pay all the expense yourself (repair, ammo & damage reparation)
>contract payment sometimes not enough to pay for your bullet
ac pilot basically an uber driver but with mech. ofc its wagie tier
You shoot guns and missiles at dudes until they blow up. Its cool as frick
Can I make my core look cute? The kind of cute that some oji-san would appreciate?
kys
I don't have a sister anon.
paint it very pink!
You can paint it with trans colors 🙂
is this game harder? will it be harder than sekiro and/or elden ring?
not the same kind of game, you disingenuous sow.
The mech looks like shit. Too "anime" like.
In older games they were more sci fi.
They were and still are designed by an OG Gundam designer you fricking moron fake ass fan wiener smoking degenerate.
i don't care and im not going to play it
i like souls games, i like medieval fantasy settings, i liked sekiro and bb, but i don't care about gay wapanese robots
could have been new soulslike game, but instead we get useless garbage game nobody except for 15 people all over the world care about
thank you, miyahacki
>i like souls games
have a nice day, homosexual. You don't like video game. Find another hobby, do drugs.
ok but when did i say that i like ONLY soulsgames?
you fricking moron Black person? have a nice day
Probably when you felt the need to come in here and specifically say "Fromsoft should have made something else". If you played other games, you wouldn't care
>not liking giant robots
it really is a great way of telling if someone is a total homosexual
LE HECKIN ROBOTS I FRICKIN LOVE SCIENCE!
Mechas have little to do with LE EBIN science since they're extremely impractical, they're just cool, simple as.
basedience cope
no cope here, just happiness.
>not liking cool robots
F A G G O T
A
G
G
O
T
Ugly af design.
Why weebgames can't into art?
I'd like to "slot" myself into that mech... if you feel me
its over
Good, it fricking sucks to have to pick max turnspeed legs or be literally run circles around in the arena. This means you'll actually see variety.
AC always had pivoting, this is better than tank controls camera wise
>better than tank controls
but a tank can pivot around the own center...
are you telling me that this was not possible in other ac games?
homie you could make really quick turns with an upgraded mech, the one in AC6 is basically a maxed out mech from earlier games
and when everyone's maxed out, no one will be
>AC6 is just armored core without the customization
Kek, honestly this is the only part I'm worried about, everything else looks fantastic but turn speed is basically no longer a factor it seems, you can even turn around completely while in midair and I like it but that's so not AC
AC is whatever Fromsoft says it is, you can have whatever preconceptions you want but ultimately it's up to the makers of the game, times change, game design changes, you can't expect them to recreate PS2 games 1:1 in this day and age
>AC is whatever Fromsoft says it is, you can have whatever preconceptions you want but ultimately it's up to the makers of the game, times change, game design changes, you can't expect them to recreate PS2 games 1:1 in this day and age
Yes that's what I said, thanks for bumping my post
nice rebuttal, you sure showed him
don't bother, i'll do it for you:
>nice rebuttal, you sure showed him
What is the fricking point of different legs now?
Hard segregating the boost speed and jumping power of different leg classes.
They each have gimmicks.
The scale seems so fricking off. Like I can't imagine a human next to that mech and the other parts of the facility making any sense at the same time.
He's clearly on places people wouldn't be in unless inside a machine.
>Facility built to be operated by mechs is sized to make sense in relation to mechs
>this makes the scale broken
But aren't humanoid legs have the fastest turn speed?
This is how the older games were moron. We're fricking back.
>overly complicated = good, fun gameplay
Sometimes I wonder if Ganker has ever actually played a game or knows anyone else IRL that plays them.
Why no inside parts though?
>japanese game
>le ebin German words
why do they do this so often in japanese media?
English and German are rule of cool for them
because they think it's cool.
it is cool.
They were the only good guys in WW2
German sounds cool, for example
>Warning!
Boring, sounds like a phone notification
>ACHTUNG
very cool, sounds menacing
no, it sounds like a sneeze
The Nips are real homies, and real homies don't forget their homies.
>having just played Project Nimbus, this looks like a fricking joke.
It's just a hook, where's the bait?
Rule of cool >>>> all
Especially when mecha
Oh boy… the release date isn’t that far away. That means the v hate machine is gearing up, just like for starfield. Time to stop participating in AC threads. I wonder if starfield players here are smart enough to do the same for that game they’re looking forward to.
When you know you’re going to like a game regardless of nitpicking, a person should really avoid threads here during the lead up to release and after until you complete it.
>Time to stop participating in AC threads
all the fangoys leaving for months would be glorious
This is the sanest post I've seen all day. You're right, participating in discussing any game on this website is putting myself in the same room with people that doompost, seethe over irl politics, or contrarian bandwagoners. Nobody that cares about video games.
I'm just gonna go play the games I just got on sale and wait up til release.
See you tomorrow
I'm just not participating in any more AC threads until all the secondaries leave, it's not that hard. There's other games to talk about that aren't being targeted by contrarians right now.
This. Ganker, even by Ganker standards, live in a fricking bubble, it's actually insane
just watched the trailer
looks like complete, boring goyslop, as expected. having just played Project Nimbus, this looks like a fricking joke.
Kys, it's one of the best looking games I've ever seen.
Literally the same slots as AC 1. The ones that matter. What, you gonna act like you need 400 stabilizer slots?
i see we're appropriating my language again
I can't even imagine how insufferable you moronic Black folk would have been in previous game launches.
>WHAT? THEY REMOVED NONSTOP OVERHEATING FROM NEXUS? NOOOO THE GAME IS CASUALIZED CAWADOOTY
>OH MY GOD THEY ADDED DUAL STICK CAMERA CONTROLS????? I'M GOING FRICKING INSAAAAAAAAAAANE NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Good.
>lock-on
Day 1 pirate. Shame, it seems like Fromsoft doesn't want my money and they'd rather pander to Soulsbabbies
>There are dozens of us! Dozens!
i want every one of you homosexuals who said it wouldn't be like souls to apologize right now
It's not though
No, it is just like Souls. AC6 has hard lockon, the defining feature of Souls gameplay
>AC6 has hard lockon, the defining feature of Souls gameplay
Man, I didn't know that Zelda was a soulslike.
DUH, look at BOTW and TIKTOK copying elden ring
>the defining feature of Souls gameplay
What's the defining feature for me since I don't use it scrub?
Uhh
You can turn instantly to any direction
Additional chromosome.
>Hard lock
Wow it's literally Souls, every single game with a lock-on system is also Souls, and every single game heedless of mechanics can be considered Souls just because it has a lock-on system. I kneel, Soulsgods.
Yeah, put down your summon sign bro and help me out against this giant tank boss i'm currently fighting...
I'm sorry... You tried to warn us but we didn't listen... I thought that you were just mocking us but I was fooling myself trying to escape the truth... I kneel.
Forgive me king, you were right i was blinded by fromslop, this is just eldenring 2.0 with mech skin
i coped as hard as i could but in the end it doesn't even matter because it's just FRICKING souls with flying and guns
sorry man
forgive me, anon
Shit modern aaa slop
I rather play genshin impact than this shitfest money grab fromslop game
KYS gachaBlack person
the only thing i dislike from the demo is that they clearly simplified the stats of every piece,other than that looks good,
>12 slots
One of the loser Journos was told the game will have over 500 parts for your AC.
Last Raven, which had the highest amount, only got 350+ in comparison.
It's possible, this game is on an entirely different budget and scale than the older games
>Nachtreiher
black-crowned night heron
Nycticorax nycticorax
Looks like AC1 slots + 1 more.
Wish they released a public demo
>There's hard lock-on
>But also FCS
How's that gonna work?
have a nice day, Shiiti.
>soulslop
>gameplay
Lol.
Missile lock speed and range.
That's not really exclusive.
>Trades some garage shit for actual gameplay
I'm okay with this.
Can now you gay accept that fromsoft is the most overrated studio ever and all of their games are pure shitslop
Try again ESL-kun
Poor guy seething so much about FromChad gave him a stroke 🙁
No.
I love dark souls and I love armored core.
Get styled upon
Bros, this will be my first AC game and I've only played DS3, Bloodborne and Elden Ring. I'm so hype for this you have no idea
heres your new ac audience bro
I unironically agree with this person. The melee attacks look fricking kino
What's wrong with this, I just played through 4 and 4:FA only using melee and it's sick to see extra animations.
The gay is trying to create drama ignore him.
>Expanding on a gameplay feature is bad now
anon...
I thought this was going to be a souls shitpost but it's an anime mechgay.
If you guys are turning away mechagays then it's genuinely over. I respect the gatekeeping though. I still need to try AC1 again, I booted it up last month without even looking at the game manual so I had no fricking clue what any of my buttons were for the first fight it throws you into
You misunderstand, these are the kind of people who played AC in the first place. I thought it was going to be a soulsgay shitpost but its just the kind of homosexual who plays mecha games anyway
>inb4 someone tries to say there weren't people who played zoom zoom shit and slow stuff who played all generations of AC
I wish all redditors and "gamer dads" would get gassed.
The Mech's will get skinnier until they're black knights/Artorias skating around lunging with their sword
>ARMORED CORE 6 IS SUPER CASUALIZED
Yeah.. no shit. If you were expecting a real Armored Core sequel, you're naive as frick.
>there will be countless AC-likes that completely miss the point of the game they copy which itself is completely missing the point of its own series
Mechabros... We are completely and utterly fricked...
and that point you speak of, what would it be?
*gugalus best build in previous games*
you wanted the illusion of choice... why, again?
>hard lock on
RIP, glad I didn't preorder
>NOOOO I CAN'T INSTALL 27 ATTACHMENTS! REEEE MY AUTISM!
There is no reason to have some many equipment slots. Twelve is fine for people that aren't suffering ADHD.
AC has had a revamp in game design every generation, this shouldn't be a surprise. Funny how most of the things people are complaining about are already present in one or two of the previous games.
4th and 5th gens aren't real AC
Analog stick aiming shouldn't be in AC either, so Nexus, Nine Breaker and Silent line aren't real AC
Every AC game should play exactly like AC1, the only true hardcore AC
ok emubabby
It was pretty consistent slow incremental change from AC1 to LR.
Why does this board hate Souls? One of the only modern franchise that doesnt cater to baby brained casuals and actually has interesting art and level design. Oh wait, you guys don't like video games, just jerking off to anime waifus. Makes sense
They hate successful games in general, and they don't hate Souls they hate Fromsoft games in particular because those are actually good.
Ganker loves souls newbie
Ganker loves hentai and watching cutscenes but hates interesting gameplay mechanics which is why you guys are going so crazy for FFXVI and shitting on AC6
I like hentai
I like AC6
I like souls
I don't care about FF16
I don't hate souls, I don't want Armored Core to be souls. have a nice day you fricking underageb& fake fan.
If you think this gameplay looks anything like Souls just because they added a lock-on you might be medically moronic
see
I remember jet packing over enemies in Souls and shooting them with my missile launcher and boost dashing into a melee combo. Just like Elden Ring, shameful
Thanks for confirming that you've never played Armored Core. I accept your concession.
>N-NO IT IS LIKE SOULS. YOU CAN LOCK ONTO ENEMIES NOW
>YES, 95% OF THE MECHANICS ARE DIFFERENT, BUT THE 5% MAKES IT EXACTLY THE SAME
You've never played Armored Core. There's no reason to flail around like a little baby just because you got exposed.
>tfw armored core 2 was the first game i played on PS2
>gay only has one argument and he made it up
And Armored Core on the PS1 was my first game. There's no point in needlessly dickwaving, especially when you can't recognize what's wrong with the webm. It makes me more inclined to believe that you don't know what you're talking about.
nta
It's 100% gonna be very souls like in it's approach to design with massive telegraphed attack bosses and dodge mechanics, but instead of roll we get boost, and instead magic - rockets.
I do not consider it a bad thing, but old timers gonna seethe.
Wow so monhun is a soulsgame?
Souls isn't just telegraphed attacks and a lock on though lol. The slow, deliberate combat and branching level design are the core identifiers of a Souls game, which this game has neither of. Oldgays are just mad more people are going to get to experience this kino because they added sorely needed QoL improvements
they literally described different paths you can take and how combat is more methodical
"more methodical" does not mean "slow and deliberate." Tell me which Souls game allows you to move this fast with this much fluidity and verticality.
Looks like Sekiro with robots to me
What's it like being blind and moronic? I didn't know y'all could post on forums, how do you do the captcha?
You have no point of reference to what Armored Core is or why this is 90% of the way in the opposite direction, so shut up you quadruple Black person
bloodborne and sekiro weren't exactly slow
>Tell me which Souls game allows you to move this fast with this much fluidity and verticality.
but it literally changes nothing tho? it still plays exactly like dark souls. verticality means nothing when it's basically you pressing or holding jump
You're arguing in bad faith if you're saying that Bloodborne is as fast as this lmao. Even Sekiro is substantially slower.
>never played the game
>seen 4 minutes of gameplay
>"it still plays exactly like dark souls"
it doesn't NEED TO BE AS FAST AS ANYTHING motherfricker
speed doesn't change the combat loop, camera controls and hard lock-on
No need to get angry, anon. I know it hurts to be wrong, but you'll forget about this thread soon. I can't wait to enjoy this kino, just preordered it on Steam 🙂
Enjoy FFXVI i know movies are more your speed
I am literally 100% right tho
And Bloodborne literally plays like AC, you dash around 20 fricking times, shoot and attack.
I mean.. yeah
I unironically thought that you can change hunter to a mech and it will be a decent mecha game while I was playing it
It can be fast and methodical.
It's already much more than 4 and 4A.
I actually preordered this lol. I'm refunding it, frick this shit.
Good, frick off. I'm a former AC vet and I'm stoked, I'm glad you're being filtered already.
>I'm actually a veteran
>veteran
>of playing a video game
Are you guys all this huge of homosexuals?
Thanks for giving up your place for me bro.
>I actually preordered this lol
No you didn't lol
This looks so fricking cool, I'm running this build in my first playthrough (alternating with chadquads).
I hope there's more than one gotta go fast builds.
If you look closely, the orange and red ACs have different legs, judging by the looks the red one is even faster.
I weren't expecting PS2 games and I'm not disappointed
Elden Ring has mechs? Downloading it right now.
And that proves what, exactly?
>One of the only modern franchise that doesnt cater to baby brained casuals
Normalhomosexuals steamroll it in coop.
Also souls combat is dogshit. It's a literal rhythm game. People who praise it have never played any other action games.
Just admit it, anon. It was too hard for you and you got filtered.
rhythm games are good tho
Rhythm games aren't games, they are toys. There is no gameplay, no mechanics, no interacting systems, just a braindead repetitive task to burn into your muscle memory and execute.
Video games are toys, jackass.
pretentious c**t
Most people here do still love From and their games, stop letting the shitposting morons influence you. Pretty much every game since the original DeS has been excellent to me and AC6 looks superb, especially after seeing these gameplay clips. This shit is going to be so fricking good.
it"s popular so Ganker hates it, don't bother overthinking it
I despise any game that gets too popular. DMC was great until too many people played it, Souls was fun until it gained a fandom. Fricking normalgays take everything from me. The only series I care about somewhat anymore is Ninja Gaiden because not too many people talk about it, but do you have any idea how fricking annoying it is to have to wallow in a sea of subpar action games just because I refuse to be a sheep who plays FOTM?
I remember being a 17 year old hipster homosexual. It was awful.
I really like souls and played all of them, even though now they're starting to get stale, what I hate is the souls fanbase, they're absolute cancer and incredibly obnoxious, rarely you see people so far up their own ass.
Reminder that Discord trannies are mass raiding both Ganker and /m/. The exact same posts and talking points are being repeated across both boards.
AC6 is copying the NASApunk aesthetics from Todd's new game
stop trying to push this meme, PR agent. no one fricking cares.
I like the crunchy sounds. Day 1 buy
Can we leave the mecha and run around with the protagonist and is the story any good?
Why would you want to get out of the mech in a mech combat game? For scripted story moments?
I like to be connected with the characters, I don't feel like I would get attached to a mech
just self insert inside the robot gay
the story seems to be good so far.
You could go out the mech in 5 but it wasn't a real mechanic, it was more like a multiplayer spectator mode.
The cute girls from previous Armored Core games must be 500 year old fossils by now
The old games sold like shit because they were too clunky and that made them unpopular and killed this franchise for a decade. If you didn't expect modern controls and adaptations to systems you're moronic, simple as. Also, funny how you made this meme thinking it made you look good when the bird telling you you've never played Armored Core is an actual Raven and you're not.
>4gaynswer gays on suicide watch
>5nigs are suicide watch
1 AND 2 CHADS WE WON, WE FRICKING WON. WE WON!
>1 AND 2 CHADS WE WON
?
This game doesn't look anything like 1 or 2.
Wtf then who won?!
Elden Ring babbies and zoomers
How old are you?
26
You are the zoomer.
I don't understand, the only AC games I really enjoyed were 4 and 4A and 6 looks incredible. I'm fairly confident it'll be my favorite after seeing this footage.
gays on suicide watch
Played the entire series and 4/FA are my favorites and I couldn't be more excited. I have no idea what you're talking about.
>no groundbase running animations
>no hallways
I dont think so
This looks like it plays more like Gundam Extreme Versus than Armored Core.
jesus nip mecha looks so incredibly gay
Frick off and play mechwarrior then moron, nobody cares that you don't like it.
>nobody cares that you don't like it
then why are you replying?
FROM will do it, 2 gotys in a row.
Imagine the fricking salt.
I HAVE TWO CONCERNS
>Generators have a cooling stat, but no cooling element to the hud
So is that your stagger? That wouldn't really make sense and would make the generator a god part
>3 instant repairs, instant garage, and repair refills
Sounds way too easy
AND THEN A THIRD THING
>Souls.lock on mode, but even with parts being condensed FCS gets it's own part slot
So...what does it do?
Having both lock ons available is a real masterstroke. Nice compromise for AC fans and souls babies
>So...what does it do?
deals with "scan" mechanic.
probably also lock-on range and speed
>FCS gets it's own part slot
>So...what does it do?
Same thing it did in AC4. Lock speed, lock distance, maximum number of locks, quality of lock, resistance to lock interference.
I don't think lock speed is a thing anymore because it's incompatible with souls lock on.
Those other stats, sure, but that's not a lot of parameters
If they combined generators and radiators I'm surprised they didn't combine, say, FCS and Head
old AC lock-on is still in the game, now you just have additional options if you want to hard focus one enemy.
>more options are bad
>more depth is bad
>this should play like a PS2 game
>this should play like a PS2 game
Go back. Also what does a PS5 game play like?
I'm aware, I'm just highlighting you can negate the drawbacks of an on paper shit FCS with it. Just get close enough and be a 1v1 god
>Always has been
Fair
>Missile locks
IDK. I never really used missiles. Maybe with stagger and burst damage they'll be godly. I think the four shoulder attacks also help them as it's a button you only need to tap for damage, not have a finger over at all times
>I don't think lock speed is a thing anymore because it's incompatible with souls lock on.
Souls lock keep your camera following enemy.
FCS locks on enemy while you have line of sight on them.
Souls camera tracking seems to pause when boosting so FCS lock might reset if you break line of sight like with droideka encounter in the video.
Then camera catches up with the enemy once you're done boosting and FCS locks on them again.
>would make the generator a god part
Always has been
Missile lock speed will always be a thing. They could still have some accuracy stats in there.
I’ve only beaten the PS1 trilogy so maybe this becomes a thing in the later games, but how is instant garage not horrible game design and a complete misunderstanding of what AC is?
One of the defining characteristics of old AC was the problem solving element of AC building and having to commit to your “solution” in a high stakes environment… I really hope this doesn’t end up as one of those
> Win in YOUR way!
baby mode borderlands Bethesda games.
I'm not going to watch half an hour of some game journalist morons, what the frick does instant garage mean
You can apparently hot-swap your entire AC mid mission like Souls equipment
>You can apparently hot-swap your entire AC mid mission like Souls equipment
you have to die to see the hangar screen
No you can't moron
Not like souls equipment. He had to die and then was able to checkpoint in as a different AC as opposed to running the whole mission as it. He also said something about finding a garage? Like that's the checkpoint? I dunno
Basically if you hit a wall post checkpoint you can build a hard counter. Seems way too easy. I like to build toolbox generalist but this game is very built for constant swapping of specialized designs.
>wanting to have to replay an entire mission, the worst part of old AC games
>mad about checkpoints that allow for more interesting level design as you don't have to run the same mech for the entire mission
>"if something's frustrating, it must be good!"
More like I enjoyed seeing the entire mission as a puzzle to solve and had to build a solution for it.
If you lost it was either very close (which would be a skill thing, just try again and play a bit better), or you got blown the frick out (back to the garage. What do I NEED, vs what do I WANT?)
Noe the puzzle is smaller. It's the same loop but 2-3 per mission as opposed to one. Easier puzzle is an easier game
>old games: one puzzle per mission
>new games: 2-3 puzzles per mission
>you: old game harder
>Solve 20 variables
Vs
>Solve 5 variables 3 times
Also I just said it'd be easier. Which it objectively will be and I prefer a challenge. I'm sure I'll still get my money's worth and enjoy myself. Just feel like it along with the repairs and repair refills take it a bit too far. I mostly play them for the gameplay and build autism so challenge is tertiary concern at best but don't get mad at me for wanting to be totally satisfied as opposed to mostly satisfied.
Verdict Day, the best armored core game, is pretty difficult. Same with Last Raven which is my second favorite.
Overall though, yeah, it's rare to find a lot of challenge in most AC games save for maybe in the arena. Even then you can just build a tank with a flamethrower.
Old AC games were all piss easy and you're delusional if you think otherwise. I admit I used to think this way too since I played 75% of the titles as a literal teenager but going back and playing them as an adult? Fricking cakewalk. Complaining the new games seem easy is a non-issue when AC has never actually been difficult. And no, Souls games aren't hard either.
>old ac games were all piss easy
>that's why I like free repairs, checkpoints and hard locks
The missions might be harder to justify these things. Stop screaming the sky is falling before the game is even out.
Verdict Day isn't hard. I did the entire game with a medium bipedal using HEAT cannon weapon arms and dual rifles. I didn't change my build fricking once and barely ever experienced even a crumb of difficulty.
>well you get three heals, respawns in new mechs, instant turns and hard locks but maybe the quests will be super duper hard because there will be a lot of enemies
anon..
>The missions might be harder to justify these things
It took like 4 souls games for them to figure out how to make them hard. Lock on based AC is basically new so they'll have to do that dance all over again.
Will Virtual on make a comeback now?
Virtual On already permanently killed itself with a game that had hard lock for casuals
I mean
>first new release in over a decade is for an LN's shitpost crossover
>delist it
>made a shit mech? ok bro just hot swap lol
>took too much damage because you suck? THREE ESTU- REPAIRS! that can be upgraded and expanded later
>you're too moronic to move? it's ok the game will turn your mech for you
bonfires soon, screencap this
i'm just not gonna use hard lock on
simple as
My brother
The braindead Jannies at /m/ banned me for telling on of the morons crosspost raiding from here to frick off (most likely a janny himself).
Anyway
There's people confirming the quickturns are manual, also we have confirmation that there is soft and hard lock on that you can toggle on and off, there's simply no way that the lock on takes away quickturn control from you bro.
Nice, hope is restored. They seem to be trying to close the gap between DS and AC but not in a way that's insulting to AC fans. This trailer has me very optimistic, I think it could be the best AC yet but I need to hear about pvp arena before I'm completely sold. The story mode is nice but the online is what will get the most replay value from me.
Yeah, the story can be an amazing side dish but I'm in it for the multiplayer as well.
>levels now have MASSIVE SCALE with the superstructures and missions even have way more exploraion to them now
Brehs this is all I needed. Just a small snippet of Fromsoft-tier paced exploran as you go through a stage.
GOTY incoming.
It'll be dope if there's hidden parts. With enemies rewarding credits per kill going through all paths at once will be fun.
They already mentioned in some interview that yes, there are hidden parts and your scan pulse helps to find them.
>and your scan pulse helps to find them
cringe and gay
Yea, they should sell strategy guide with all the obscure hidden objective you need to do to unlock hidden parts like in good old days.
as god intended it
I don't think an AC game could ever get GOTY. But if one could, it'd certainly be AC6.
>people really believed they wouldn't make dark souls with robots
thank God I stopped bothering with fromsoftware after Dark Souls with samurais
>it has heals THAT MEANS IT JUST LIKE DARK SOULS
How do you get this moronic?
It has three free repairs at any time and you're likely going to be able to upgrade them, it's the exact mechanic they used in Dark Souls, stop being moronic
Having one mechanic similiar doesnt make it darks souls you fricking moron, are you actually this dumb?
so you agree the free repairs are going to work exactly like estus? good
>Having one mechanic
hard lock and bonfires
>bonfires
You are so stupid holy shit, checkpoints have existed for decades yet because you clearly have only played dark souls game you dont know that.
>hard lock
The game has always had lock on features, the hard lock you can also turn off..
do the check points reset enemies and do your repair kits refill at them? because those are how bonfires and estus work.
You can literally rebuild your mech at checkpoints
so does that refill your repair kits and enemies or
So that's the new cope? fair enough, let's wait until they confirm the refill
>everyone who criticizes casual core 6 only played Dark Souls
I don't even like Dark Souls
if by cope you mean you just got caught talking out of your ass, sure.
Yeah just like hard lock and instant turns for casuals wouldn't be a thing
>I don't even like Dark Souls
Yet your stupid ass used it as a comparison.
>wow this looks like shit
>SO YOU LIKE SHIT? WHY ARE YOU USING IT FOR COMPARISON
anon, you're moronic, that's all
Oh god now your coping
Does being able to magically change your mech mid mission depending on whatever is easiest make the game easier, as was the original question?
>checkpoints = bonfires
This has got to be the dumbest take you could of made dude
Checkpoints that allow you to completely change your loadout are bonfires.
Another 1 iq take i see
He's just baiting
where's the shazamposting?
>it doesn't have to focus on ranged combat
>it doesn't need real opponents in the arena that send you angry emails
>it doesn't need overed weapons
>it doesn't need optional parts
>it doesn't need extensions
>it doesn't need radiators
>it doesn't need inside parts
>it doesn't need different damage types
>it doesn't need to require skill to avoid damage
>it doesn't need to make you think which weapon to have equipped
>it doesn't need to have limited turn speed
>it doesn't need a lockbox
>it doesn't need not to have hard lock-on
WE ARE NOW HERE
>it doesn't need bunnyhopping
>it doesn't need hanger weapons
>it doesn't need weapon arms
>it doesn't need transforming weapon arms
>it doesn't need hover legs
>it doesn't need purging
>it doesn't need tuning
>it doesn't need to make you tailor your AC to the mission at hand
>it doesn't need energy management
>it doesn't need ammo and repair costs
>FCS doesn't need to affect anything but missile lock
>it doesn't need back weapons to be different
>it doesn't need consorts/UNACs
>it doesn't need unlocked fps
>it doesn't need good netcode
>it doesn't need Nineball
>it doesn't need emails
>it doesn't need emblem editor
>it doesn't need post-game and Hard Mode
>it doesn't need catchy garage theme
>it doesn't need Kawamori
>it doesn't need FreQuency
>it doesn't need triple digits amount of parts
>it doesn't need garage to be more than just cosmetic
>it doesn't need to be a Mecha game
>it doesn't need to be an Armored Core game
>it doesn't need to not be Dark Souls 2 II: Episode 2
>it doesn't need good netcode
come on anon that's too easy, you KNOW it won't have a good netcode because fromsoftware is too incompetent to do it
Ironically 4 and 5 had OK netcode but I'm sure they'll frick that up and make it shit like DS netcode.
4 absolutely did not
Multiplayer in Souls game is an afterthought, making a game with dedicated pvp mode and same shitty netcode will be absolutely embarrassing.
>t didn't play vd
You could play 4v4s with japs and it'd still be good. AC doesn't use p2p shit like souls.
did this happen before or after Fromsoftware started mass producing dark souls clones?
during. but the online in 5/VD is very different from souls.
Also no one bought VD because V was shit, which is a shame because VD is fricking sick
VD was good but I wouldn't call it "fricking sick". It's a real shame that 5 killed it before it even came out though. 5 was a fricking mistake.
I did like chief, but beyond him it was pretty fricked
It actually does have frequency
>[MECHANIZED MEMORIES INTENSIFIES]
this list is too long, doesn't hit as well as your other ones
ah, good. It's just not a real Ganker thread for upcoming games without shazamgayging
>hard lock reduces weapon accuracy
>generic 3rd person camera is selectable and you can still play with a normal AC camera
Only way they can save it
since fcs parts are still in the game i am not gonna be surprised if they just have one that gives you the old aim box
I hope souls lock increases energy drain by a noticable amount
So they're finally making a fun AC game? Good.
AC has had checkpoints in long missions going as far back as 3rd gen
It also had repairs but of course morons here dont play video games and just want to make up bullshit
Its a bit wild how Ganker hates journalists but their talking points are the exact same shit they use. LOOK ITS DARK SOULS BUT WITH ROBOTS HURR
It's dark souls because it's not armored core.
I'm going to miss the missile extensions. I liked being able to fire like 8 missiles without staying locked forever
I love how all the people hating on this are people who don't care about Armored Core in the first place. Actual fans would rather have a new game to digest than another fantasy Souls title. Each game has made changes to the formula throughout the years, this is no different. If the game is good, I don't care if it has Z-Targeting and Motor Oil Flasks. I'm just pumped for a new AC game with new music, plus it's finally on PC so the multiplayer won't die as soon as the next gen consoles come out.
>if you're a real AC fan you should be excited for it
>even if it's nothing like an AC game
Yes the game's changed but there were certain things that never changed that did change here. The camera/lock being the biggest one. That's the one that makes it feel like a fricking mech and not just some dude in a robot costume.
Also the stat screen is hilariously barebones even by AC1 standards.
You sound like the same homosexuals who whined ac4 was way to different then the previous games, the difference between 3-4 is large.
>actually added more part categories than it took away
>still makes sure it feels like piloting a giant robot even when flying at the speed of sound
makes sure it feels like piloting a giant robot even when flying at the speed of sound
and you morons hated that and complained it was turning into fricking gundam and shit, shut up already, your just another moron who thinks his opinion is valuable.
Well if it's anything like Souls you can just not use the Z-targeting. AC has never been about manual aiming anyway, it's always been about positioning and maintaining optimal range other than of a few weapons.
Thanks for admitting it at least. I hope you find solace at some point.
Cheers mah homie. 2 more months.
>it's always been about positioning and maintaining optimal range other than of a few weapons.
And that was based around the way moving and aiming worked. Which lock on completely changes.
>have a gun with great damage and range
>give it a tiny lock box
>Which lock on completely changes.
The previous games had lock on you moron
You Black folk know what the frick I'm referring to. Literally the first thing you needed to learn in every style of AC game in ACvAC combat was how to maneuver yourself in such a way to keep yourself out of the enemies range.
>visual range
Meant to say. I was dogfighting in giant robots
And you'll still need to do that, you can just see your enemy centered in the screen if you choose to use the z-targeting. You're making a mountain out of a molehill. Personally, I'm more concerned about how the healing is going to affect the balancing between light and heavy AC's, but I'm not going to boycott the game because of it.
>And you'll still need to do that, you can just see your enemy centered in the screen if you choose to use the z-targeting.
We already know the game has instant turning even without QB. Sorry anon, no more getting behind your enemy and using superior mobility to your advantage.
I don't think anyone in this thread have said "ITS OVER" or boycott. Just certain things they're concerned about here or there.
Like I think it's going to feel too easy with the checkpoint garage and repairs, but I'll still probably enjoy it overall
Some are concerned about the customization, which is fair
I'm personally less concerned because there was enough considerations in 1 which had even less parts and stats, and I'm used to new numbers feeling thin on parts compared to previous generations.
>ummm ackshually
You're conflating lock-on with z-targeting. All the games have lock-on. Z-targeting just manages your camera for you.
>AC has never been about manual aiming anyway
It's as close as you can get to manual aiming on a shitty Playstation controller.
Frick you. If I feel miserable constantly about the degradation of gaming, the slow rotting of society and the zero chances I have at a happy life due to israelites and various other factors, I see no reason why anyone else should be happy about anything. If that requires me to shitpost every single AC thread from here on until release, I'll do it. If I can't be happy, none of you deserve to be.
reading stuff like this ironically makes me feel pretty happy about my life
This. Real AC fans are hyped, doomposters are just newhomosexuals who probably started with emulator.
Based and Raven-pilled.
Frick off, you've never played Armored Core.
>it's okay to eat shit as long as it shares the name with something you enjoyed before
Peak consoomer behavior.
actual AC fans dont exist, they quit videogames and must be like 40, this thread is all soulBlack folk pretending to be old fans
I wonder what the next cope will be when the totally not bonfires let you refill your totally not estus flasks
Cope is only needed when anonymous people can't pretend like they weren't giving opinion A only for B to be proven right.
Game of the fricking year
>2 months for release
>they STILL haven't finished the HUD
you guys are in for a surprise
the exbo video had the hud
the hud is finished, it wasn't shown for whatever reason.
>gameplay appears
>5 weak ass enemies in the map
Why is this hyped again besides the From Soft name?
>here's your combat bro
Would you rather stand still? You could probably make a build for that.
>souls players can't possibly imagine just moving normally instead of orbiting the enemy like a moron
hard lock was a mistake
Your gif is literally more like AC than it is like Souls
>revisionism
classic israelite tactic, I'm not wasting my money on your cashgrab
AC has always been about circle strafing though? In early games you just bunny hopped during it.
Ssh anon, you'll expose him as a tourist.
Fromsoft cookin good
So, give it to me straight. How soulslike is it?
Armored Core were my comfiest of threads for years. I don't want their kind here
It's not. People calling it soulslike are moronic. We just have hard lock-on and turn fast now. Repair kits aren't really estus when we don't have a version that restores ammo. There's still no i-frames, there's still no invasions.
Its just redditors making that comparison, ignore them. They think features the game previously had someone make it dark souls.
>souls aim
>estus
>bonfires
>orbit your enemies combat
you tell me, professor
aim
Holy shit you're moronic. Souls didn't invent hard locks. Is Kingdom Hearts 1 a fricking Soulslike now?
Kingdom Hearts 1 is the Granma of Souls games.
Please buy a rope.
For you.
Miyazaki copypasted Kingdom Hearts 7 times. Literally unplayable trash.
Please take your meds. Not everything with hard locks and free movement is Souls.
It's certainly not armored core
It's literally still Armored Core. Just like AC4 and AC5 were still Armored Core. Cope.
About as much of a change 4 and V were
I was joking although I know it's hard to tell with how fricking stupid some of these people actually are.
Fair enough anon, my bad for not picking up on it.
On proud difficulty it sure feels like one.
yeah, but AC has never had it. It was one of the more interesting parts of the franchise. AC6 looks like generic homogenized action game trash.
>. It was one of the more interesting parts of the franchise.
>not having hard lock was the more interesting part
Holy frick you are moronic
It was, it made you feel like you were a pilot in a mecha suit and not just controlling a game character. Overcoming the limitations and mastering the system was rewarding and cool.
didn't Ocarina of Time start the whole lock on thing? or was it jut the first big game to do it
i heard there was one obscure game that did something like it first, i think it was on the tube
aim
MITSUBISHI CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
the brainrot is real, every game for you trannies is apparently now dark souls.
>TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES
kys zoomer, go back to DS and never return
>calling others zoomer while make zoomer tier arguments
an hero, its for the good of humanity
AC is a mission-based mech combat game
It has almost nothing in common with the souls games
If you want to compare against something then ace combat has more in common
Just watch the fricking gameplay video and judge for yourself you disingenuous moron.
go home
Looking at the gameplay the thing that worries me is: what exactly is keeping you from just keeping max distance from enemies and shoot them till they're dead? The boss they showed seemed incredibly easy to avoid.
fcs in older games has a lock-on distance stat, i imagine it'll be the same in this one with seperate stats for soft and hard lock on distance
ammo is a limited and valuable resource, even with refills just mashing buttons will get you to the boss in 0's.
FCS as that other anon said, your entire AC is going to be built around your FCS. The long range you are the worse your targeting ability will be.
what's an FC
Fire Control System
Fire Control System, it's a type of part that changes how your targeting functions.
fire control system (the box recital)
as someone who spends hundreds of hours creating characters in other games, which armored core has the most slots?
older games give you 3 ac slots, 4+ i dont think has a limit
AC2 to last Raven gives you 3
4 and V give you unlimited slots
I just hope all the soulsBlack folk buy it even if they just play it for a week so I don't have to wait another decade for another AC game.
of course they're going to buy it, it was tailor made for them
>fromsoft could be making sekiro 2 or bloodborne 2 or even a fricking bloodborne pc port
>instead they make some gay babby mecha game that only literal autists like
sadge
I would be happy with even Dark Souls 4 or Demon Souls 2(PS5 exclusive obviously).
Even a Kings Field remake but with Souls gameplay and in third person would have been good.
Another project which would be cool would be a Tenchu remake but with Souls style gameplay instead of Sekiro, or maybe an Otogi remake but with iconic souls style gameplay too, the possibilities are endless with a Souls style gameplay by your side.
>Even a Kings Field remake but with Souls gameplay and in third person would have been good.
Souls gameplay would be so much better as a dungeon crawler it's not even funny.
>all this cope because souls babies got called out
AC6 is a souls game
i will enjoy the latest elden soulsborne kirocore
How big are ACs again? I thought they were only a couple meters tall
They still are only a couple meters tall
No way the original ACs were 10 meters tall
sovl
I don't think they ever quite figured out how big they want those to be, since even 2 (which is the same universe) scaled them up from 1.
i remember the semi trucks in 3 being half the size of a bipeds calf in height
Yeah, it looks like 2 might be a fair bit taller than 1. An AC1 Armored Core might be 4-6 meters at best while the ones in 2 look like they might be bigger.
Weirdly enough in 2AA you fight an AC 1 AC and they're a hair taller and more lanky looking
The most hysterical scare brain teaser is in Verdict Day. In multiplayer if you got shot down you could still participate as an infinity respawning pilot which died in one hit and had a 1 damage gun (either energy or kinetic). You were either a dude with a jetpack or a Shinobi holding on to a giant raven
The problem was you were fricking massive, smaller than an AC, sure, but if you went up to a car model your body was bigger than a whole humvee. It was pretty funny
Look at center down
that's a Next
Next is just the next... generation of ACs, they are similar in sizes
Depends on the generation I think.
>non-fixed camera
Fricking Chirst, they really are just turning it into Armored Souls. Frick this shit.
4 didn't have a fixed camera either
Another tourist outting hes never played AC before
>GUYS PLEASE PRE ORDER THE GAME I SWEAR IT ISN'T ROBOT DARK SOULS LOOK THE ESTUS probably CAN'T BE REFILLED!
lmao
The energy meter was a precusor to Souls stamina system. Checkmate theists.
Mecha sucks
Never played one of thes e games but I'm a huge fan of dark souls 3 and elden ring. Will I like this?
>never played Armored Core
>AC6 trailer comes out
>figure I'd finally try it, try out AC4
And as expected of From, the camera handled like absolute fricking shit. For different reasons than Souls games but it was still absolute fricking ass.
The fact you've got two modes is probably going to help the worst of it.
And then 3's looks even bigger than 2's
>Everyone trying so hard to be the hardcore og AC vet
I just want better enemies. Building the robots were the most fun back then because the enemies were so damn boring.
8balls wasn't boring, take that back
building ACs + arena were the best parts
I think 4's might be around the same height as 3's
I think Armored Core 5's are back down to around 2's size again