>Community Manager confirms Arrowherad is in talks to revert some of the decisions
>Game has nearly 100k negative reviews (more than 4 months of positibe reviews since release
Arrowhead Studios in talks to revert decision
>Community Manager confirms Arrowherad is in talks to revert some of the decisions
>Game has nearly 100k negative reviews (more than 4 months of positibe reviews since release
Imagine not having a review system that can pressure devs to backpedal on dumb decisions.
Imagine just gobbling all wieners that are slapped across your face.
Sony nyggers are literally incapable of removing corporate schlong from deep in their throat, they subsist entirely on semen
hey don't you insult snoypedo jeets like that.
ConsoleBlack folk are beyond saving
This is why PC Gods will always be superior to filthy console Black folk
You morons literally bought this slop more than psgays lol
>You morons literally bought this slop more than psgays lol
>how many people play on PC?
>how many play on shitstation?
>telling us you don't understand "per capita"
SnoyBlack person is correct
That's okay, valves algorithm should rightfully detect this as a review bomb and exclude it from affecting the games rating. Might take a couple days to apply.
What makes console homosexuals so servile?
I just don't get, they act as if we should be grateful we are even allowed play snoy shit
I mean you pctards are always begging. Still are
>Demanding anything from publishers?
>Cringe, I would rather bend over and take it up my ass
Pathetic
>servile
kek it's you who have issues with your gillions of launchers, driver updates, etc.... we just turn on the console and quickly play in front of our giant ass tv in a very comfy way. we are the definition of chads.
Yeah only one company can slap it's wiener across our faces
Try giving people what they want instead of bossing them around and maybe people would like you too
>it doesn't concern me yet so I don't care
every time
Perfect enemy of the good nonsense. will not work on me
dont care, theres 20 other threads. go there.
I sure am glad I dont reflexively glark the wiener of billionaires and corporations
what happened to "don't like it? don't buy it chuds"? seeing a lot of backpedaling now that people are waking up to this bullshit
the damage has been done though
This is why you should always double down. If you ever capitulate your enemies will not show you grace because they're unholy goblins. Literally better to die and burn all the shit to the ground than to let actual morons dictate your actions.
This. Keep shitting on them until the stupid decision is reversed
It's true you "gamers" should double down by extending your rage to all systems that require a login. Hopefully once you disappear from the internet you can find a path to being productive happy members of society. It's the only way.
Cry about it Black person. I will not use PSN, just like I avoid Ubislop.
Then go back to the Gay porn industry where you belong, troony.
Your time will be productive there as just another dude taking wieners up his ass.
Comedy gold for the rest while you will have no choice than to either have a bag attached to your stomach or wear diapers for life.
This. Video games will only fulfill Marx's dream when there is no one left to play them.
how long before you will need PS+ to play Sony's PC games?
Good
This should be something you do with your sworn enemies or some shit, and not people in society, but yeah, sure. It has come to this.
Sony IS our sworn enemy at this point. They're a wholly captured enemy attached at the hip to the central banking system trying to push their globohomosexual bullshit on everyone
If arrowhead gets caught in the crossfire I couldn't give a frick less they can get out of the way or die.
>Sony IS our sworn enemy at this point.
THERE IT IS
FINALLY SOMEONE ADMIT IT INSTEAD OF HIDING BEHIND BULLSHIT. top kek sheep.
Corporations are not your friend.
Either he's a moron who doesn't understand how to be a good CM or he's a genius who encouraged a lot more people to leave negative reviews, which can help to influence Sony's decision.
It sounds like he had a massive reality check. There's a chance that this finally made him take his head out of his ass for a few moments. I'm sure next week it will be firmly lodged right back where it was.
>reality check
more like his boss busted his ass open lmao
it's a miracle he didn't get fired over this, imagine being a community manager and telling your community to frick off
What are the chances that someone from the higher ups did some good smacking for this idiot to backpedal? Surely, a CM would know about their Company's policies? This is something that's publicly displayed on their own website, too.
Also what if this idiot got fired and someone else is behind the new messages?
It seems like a Sony move to force the accounts anyway. Arrowhead just has some really fricking stupid people in forward facing positions.
I called it. You morons would be too cucked to go back if they made the right choice
>Keeps on reposting an out of context quote talking to a homosexual that kept talking about leaving but kept playing helldivers and talking
You're a disingenuous shill Black person.
Didn't you get fired already, Troon?
But thats the perfect person to listen to?
They clearly like the game, and they are trying to warn the devs that this will kill the game on steam, and it did.
Would you prefer them listen to people who don't even play the game instead?
Spicz is such a dumb homosexual lmao I hope he gets raped by a pack of ravenous feral Black folk
>This will kill helldivers 2 on steam
Player count literally hasn't dropped
The "block non-PSN players from playing" patch hits June 5th
The change hasn't happened yet, but anyone thinking it'll kill the game is an idiot, people will complain but most will make a playstation account. Players will drop, but no where near the dead game level of players
The player count for friday night was as low as a wednesday night. It is already happening.
ESL moment.
it's only because some countries don't have psn, that's it, if you live in a country with psn then he rightfully doesn't care about your shit opinion.
someone probably told him he'll be held responsible if he does any more of that shit and completely ruins all their attempts to run some damage control
Because they thought they could go on with that snarky attitude forever. They were allowed to do it because the game is genuinely fun. Being snarky isn't possible when everyone starts hating your guts, so you have to go back to sucking wieners.
Based spitz adding fuel to the fire so arrowhead can get some ammunition against snoy.
A true martyr.
>the damage has been done though
Reverse the decision and all is forgiven
I don’t want to give Sony analytics nor do I want their TOS on Steam
It's bizarre how many community manager gaffes there are that blow up and turn communities against developers, and yet everyone still seems to insist on having the same hiring standard as leddit jannies instead of treating the position as what it really is - a marketing/PR job
Seriously this shit should be handled by a person with a PHD who shows up to work in a suit, not a fricking powertripping Discord moderator who wants to write off a few hours in the workday to blab online
There are even degrees for this shit, public relations, communications and such. Couldn't they just hire those people instead of some random forum moderators?
What makes you think a person with a degree is gonna accept some 5-figure salary for moderating a fricking discord?
Literally anybody would.
Those people want actual money while your diversity hire will do it for minimum wage or just "exposure".
some other guy already summed it up pretty well
these official platforms from devs are a huge mistake. obviously they love having them because it means they can ban topics they don't like seeing, but your CM guys will be in there constantly, talking to the players and getting high on all the attention and fanboys sucking their dick.
so when the time comes to actually take a step back and be professional, even about feedback you might personally find insulting, they are unable to do it and quickly just make the hole even deeper.
People who have PhDs in anything spend all nighters studying thesis papers.
What you need is someone with good people skills who realize what kind of stupid shit will piss off your customers. Also not fragile ego that gets easily upset.
Looks like someone got an angry phonecall from boss and was told to work overtime during weekend
a company that actualy LEARNS from their mistakes and doenst double the frick down?
well shit they are learning
No, they need to double down, triple down and go down with the ship.
lets not act like saints row wasnt a dead franchise walking at that point. hd2 is an actual titanic not worth sinking over their PR moron getting uppity
All I've seen of this guy is being an ignorant dickhead who can't consider why people are upset.
Working in customer service you gotta be nice to people even if they're fricking moronic karens and completely wrong, I do it for a living. In this situation the people complaining aren't even in the wrong, how did this moron become a community manager.
>4d chess manipulating public to strong arm sony later
absolute big brain
They had a taste of democracy
Manager confirms Arrowherad is in talks to revert some of the decisions
>>Game has nearly 100k negative reviews (more than 4 months of positibe reviews since release
I can't stand his videos anymore. It's not even just him, I can't stand any content that doesn't get to the point. Being able to speed up a video is a godsend.
This even goes as far as actual shows as well. Back when I was watching The Walking Dead, there were so many extremely slow moments that I got to the point of skipping forward 5 seconds regularly because my response was "Alright, I get it. Let's speed it up".
Who asked?
I asked.
I care.
> install sponsor block
> skip to highlight
Makes these types of channels bearable.
I hope you don't watch yongtard
They won't change a thing.
Imagine if Steam didn't have this review system? There would be zero ways to immediately show devs just how much they frickee up
Call your government regulator you nutless wonder.
>US
>government regulator
Lol, lmao even
Thats anti semetic.
>implying this does anything if someone isn't breaking the law
lole
Sony nyggers mad because they cannot say a thing to their overlord and know only bend over to take it in the ass
Praise Gay Ben
Nice I heard publishers love when you try throwing them under the bus
Sony deserves it
Sony deserves it for selling the game in regions that can't actually make PSN accounts without violating ToS and getting banned.
>it just takes 2 minutes to create a PSN account
Takes 0 minutes to not implement it at all
Either you were paid to post this or you are moronic.
Which is it?
Pic unrelated.
What benefits does a PSN account give me, a PC player?
convincing sony to keep porting games
NOW LOG IN YOU c**t
What games?
>All part of my master plan
>convincing sony to keep porting games
or just use sales metrics from steam which doesnt have any need of making a PSN account
This is it. This is my go to line for the next two weeks
>It takes just two minutes to sing up to a health care provider
>It takes just two minutes to sign a lease on a residential apartment
Get off my streets, bums
takes 2 minutes to make a PSN account, but only takes 1 minute to leave a bad review and tell the CM to suck a dick
This. It's easy and the whole "controversy" is people just wanting to complain.
It just takes 2 minutes to make a Ganker account, and yet you haven't. Strange
Spitz is an emotionally fragile moron, I wouldn't believe anything he says
why isn't this tied to crossplay yes/no?
if you want crossplay with sony, you have to make a psn account so sony can ban you?
you homosexuals seethe so unbelievably hard I started supporting the trannies. unironically touch grass
>warn Ganker about this before release
>no one cares, call me an "anti-shill"
>now suddenly Ganker pretends to care
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
get owned
You didn't do shit moron.
I posted about it and people like you ignored it. Now you pretend to care. Get owned.
No you didn't moron.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/666411079/#666412759
>Damn that sucks. I’ll think about you when I’m having fun playing it.
>This sounds like reddit fearmongering.
>>you need a playstation account to play the game
>how is this a bad thing
>You just blow in from reddit pal? Most anti cheats are kernal level, which israelitetuber did you hear it from?
Oops, you got owned.
>https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/666411079/#666412759
Based
I read the signs early too. Feels good not dropping even a single shekel. Patience is a virtue
Looks like a few people agreed with you so you probably saved a few people from bothering with this shit. I personally don't really care about the PSN account shit but was pleasantly surprised when I heard that you could actually skip linking it to a steam account during login. I read here and on the steam forums that linking was 'optional' and that influenced my decision to actually buy the game. Fast forward to now and I feel like I got rugpulled.
Never stop warning people anon. There always needs to be the guy going against the tide when he thinks something is too good to be true.
I was one of the people saying the anticheat didn't matter, but I only bought because the account was optional, I don't buy Ubisoft or Microsoft or EA games because of this nonsense.
It was absolutely a rugpull because of all the "IT'S OPTIONAL" shilling.
There's actually a single post saying that the account skip option is temporary but it's hidden in a subforum on the official steam page. No customer would ever see this shit before buying the game.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/553850/discussions/1/4206994023681197128/
This is 100% Arrowheads fault for not making it abundantly clear in game that the feature wouldn't exist forever.
Yeah I bought the game on Fanatical (official reseller) and nowhere on that page did it say it either.
Expecting me to go to another store, open the forums, and read that to know something everyone is saying is optional is not optional is just a scumbag move.
You know the really fricked up thing?
https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/buy-games/helldivers-2-pc
This official sony store literally says that an account is optional.
To play devil's advocate,
>No, you currently do not need a PSN account to enjoy PlayStation Studios games on PC
still rings true until they push out the mandatory linking update.
Sure, they probably won't change it when they do, but when dealing with companies you must always interpret the text as literally as possible.
Additional example: if a burger patty consists of over 50% beef, it's allowed to be called a beef patty but a 100% beef patty is supposed to be 100% beef.
man that's just bad
>reading the store page is too much to ask for
>i must throw my money blindly at games
nta anon but another one that fricking payed attention to what they spend their money on
is it really so hard to believe someone read the crossplay announcement, store page, or the pop up when they first played the game and warned people?
>skip
based, holy frick I hate snoyjeet trannies so fricking much
people like you are why companies get away with this
I hate you moronic fantasists who think you're some kind of anime character. Nobody cares about you or your schizo warnings and they never will.
Yes we know you never listen.
Just how you couldn't read the steam page.
>we
lol.
>Just read the page before you buy
This is why people don't have discussions on boards filled with literal manchildren and zoomers. You were never told to shut the frickup by your absent father.
Somehow you know perfectly well to avoid games with denuvo when you want to, homosexual.
This is no different.
>brings up denuvo at random
Time to settle down, kiddo. Maybe take notice of whats going on in the thread.
It says which games have denuvo on the steam page you fricking moron.
If you know how to read that, you should know how to read the game requiring a PSDN account.
It's your fault. Get fricked.
I read that it needs a PSN account and didn't buy it.
>quite literally incapable of reading and comprehending
>y-y-you moron!!!
topkek
Eat shit lol.
Hope you've learned not to touch anything Sony related for the future.
It must suck to lose the engagement you desired and to only have me laugh at you for not getting it. Aspergers has done a number on you.
I'm not the one getting assfricked now.
>it says psn required i'm not getting jt
>no dude i've played for months without one that's a bad reason not to get it
>oh
>response from the dev team is negative
>nothing about sony's response
Even if you trust what this dude says, which you shouldn't because he's been a homosexual about this situation, I wouldn't hold out hope. At the very least the people in countries that can't make an account don't loose access to the game, if he's telling the truth
Finally people in East Timor, Nepal and N[redacted] can enjoy this game how it was meant to be played.
like unity the trust has already dissipated, and the first thing I think about any given video game shouldn't be the drama surrounding it
this is psychological torture and you're doing it on purpose because gamers aren't useful to eugenicists. sony. you, are doing this on purpose.
Will one of the decisions also include firing their trans PR moron who insulted its community?
Of course not
>we might give regions without PSN coverage a pass
I'm not making a PSN account, period. Sony can suck my dick. They should be glad I bought one of their games to begin with.
So Sony did the change on friday so Arrowhead couldn't do shit during the weekends and just watch their golden goose burn?
Clever girl
>ITS SONY'S FAULT THEY'RE THE BAD GUYS NOT US
Aren't they supposed to be under a defamation contract?
Usually when devs get fricked in the ass they can't throw the big corpo under the bus to save their asses or they're at risk of getting sued.
i.e. Stellar Blade director on his bs statement regarding censorship
That might be on official announcements only, they might be able to trash talk sony in non official shit like discord, but that's just my guess. Either that or they're panicking/don't give a shit anymore and accidently did it
Whatever either side reactions to this, I got a feeling that Arrowhead next game won't be published by Sony anymore...
well this could potentially frick their company really bad, so they probably are panicking hard
they cant bend knee to moronic steam cultists
POST YFW YOU DIDN'T BUY HELLDIVERS 2
I maxed everything out and got bored.
>live service
>sony
Writing was on the wall.
jesus christ, time destroys everything
He looks better than you will at his age.
so?
And I was about to buy it right before this shitshow lmao.
>see threads popping out of nowhere en masse
>oh another flavour of the month
>see gameplay
>everything look weightless, number 1 sign of a game being recycled slop
>never interact with it again until today
they'll never learn, developers and playerbase both
>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords
Your opinion is worthless and your taste is shit.
worthless enough to make you seethe and write about it
>you called me a moron therefore I win
lol, moron
>everything look weightless
Lol, dumbass
weightless and recycled triggers the bots, of course
Dodged a bullet
>buying live service slop ever
>especially buying live service sony slop ever
Single player offline chads continue winning, if I can’t pirate it, I don’t want it
I knew I was right not to buy anything with Sony's name on it.
What's it like having more than 2 brain cells?
Apparently that's a rare occurrence these days.
>Mfw I didn't buy into the hype bubble and splurge spend to "join the crowd"
Slight off topic but related to bugs, Empire of Ants or whatever the frick it's called looks like it's going to be sick. I want to see more gameplay and shit before I pre-order and buy though.
>hey this looks like f-
>invasive anti-cheat
>for the fricking microtransactions
>invasive anti-cheat
Who gives a shit. Doesn't affect me. I can live with that. I just wanted to play the new game.
Now, a PSN account, that's horrible
>wiener in my mouth? Sure. But wiener in my ass? Now that's a step too far.
>got game for free
>played it for months
>now I get to refund it for full MSRP because of a moronic console corporation
Lol tell me again how "bad" steam is. Go on. Let me hear it.
based sony kicking cheating chinks out of the game
It feels so good to live in the First World.
First you guys cry about anti-cheat and now logging in is causing you to squirt blood out of your eyes, lmao. Truly the whiniest faction of gamers
What the frick bros???
I thought steam reviews and review bombs never worked????
I was kinda expecting this to get walked back because of the spotty enforcement in some EU countries but not others, but it will be extremely funny if they walk it back within two days
aww lil zoom zoom following trannies on discord
how cute
>just take the vax chud
>review bombing doesn't work sweaty
Apparently it does.
>the warning was there since day one!! everyone knew this was gonna happen!
>devs still taken by surprise and their response has been "universally negative"
lol + kek
this dude is lying out of his ass to save face, see
Because it wasn't a requirement. You can't just not making something a requirement then go
>AKSHULLY YOU NEED TO DO IT NOW
Months later. So the argument falls apart because nobody reasonably expected it to become mandatory.
the funniest shit is the combination of
>no, we always intended things to be this way from day 1, and we always said so
>what do you mean, PSN is not available in all countries? we weren't aware of that!
>btw this is all sony's doing, they suddenly pulled it on us. we had no say in this decision
if they manage to survive this, they should definitely replace their CMO and get someone who isn't a complete moron to prevent shit like this from happening in the future.
>>devs still taken by surprise
Never forget that they did this ON A FRIDAY
If you ever wonder
>are they really this stupid, or did they know it would be contentious
remember this.
If they had any inkling of the shitstorm that was brewing, this would have been announced on monday-wednesday
The devs are 'pretending' to be disappointed so they can ease the players into accepting it for the good of the devs, while basically talking to Sony going "Heh, dont worry boss we'll wrangle these losers in no time for you."
I hope they don’t course correct just to cause all the PC Karen chuds to suffer a collective stroke from the sheer amount of pressure they’re placing on their bodies exerting this much anger, it’s genuinely amusing watching this meltdown
stay the course Arrowhead and Sony, frick all PC Troons
Did you fricking pajeets all finish your lunch break at the same time or something?
REMINDER
Take this opportunity to refund NOW, don't wait for them to reserve course and lose your chance at a refund.
>t. someone smart enough to not buy the game in the first place
>Developer reversing course isn't enough to appease a trannoid that didn't buy the game in the first place
You lost the culture war.
Still not buying it with that garbage anticheat.
>yeah I spouted off like a dumb smug c**t without knowing all the facts, sowrry uwu
Bet this butthole got nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
>we won't force people if there's no better solution
So the "it's Sony and not us" was a lie then.
This actually violates EU consumer laws so it will get walked back as Sony won't want to face a class action in the European market
This whole shit won't survive until May 30th. I fully expect EU Customer Protection to frick Sony in every orifice, and possibly even make new ones.
Just figure this: Sony published the game through Steam across regions where PSN service isn't provided (Baltics, Belarus, Russia, half of Africa), allowed the game keys to be activated and played for 4 months, and now they say "Unless you give us your personally-identifiable information (even if your Steam doesn't have any of your real info, it still has your billing data, your PC specs, and potentially information that can be misused), you won't be able to access the game anymore. And if you register a PSN account using false information, we have full rights to delete that account".
They waited 4 months so that they wouldn't get a massive wave of instant refunds when people who bought and activated the game in regions where PSN isn't available would get stuck at an unskippable (aka, their "mandatory" PSN account usage) "cannot create account, service isn't available in your region" screen.
They decided to do this shit when nobody could get automated hussle-free refunds. Now Steam will figure "what the frick is going on with this game's rating?", see hundreds of refund requests and will have to ask questions from Sony.
I'm looking forward to seeing how quickly Gabe allows automatic refunds on Helldivers.
imagine posting all this shit, what kind of fricking low class animal are you? I cringe at your obsession, autistic little prick. nothing you say will ever happen.
lol, how fast did you guys burn trough your playbook this time? You were even more rabbit then with Censored Blade.
complaining about censorship is valid, not this you subhuman PC homosexuals
>the EU will save us
>gaben will save us
>this whole drama
stinking shill, go for a nice drive without brakes
moron
This is actually one of the biggest reviewbombs I've seen on Steam. We're nearing 100k negative reviews in a day.
Legit haven't seen another game experience that. Pretty unprecedented so no wonder it's makig rounds.
Certainly the biggest whiplash in terms of reviews.
>entire major order system in the game is to get the player base to work together in mass-action campaigns
>the same mass-action is now used against the game itself
Only morons buy shit with kernel level access.
Sure hope you don't have Windows or a smartphone.
>OS using kernel is same as entertainmentslop using kernel.
Look at this moron over here.
What kernal level shit are my Windows/smartphone gonna access? My butthole?
You're such a disingenuous frickhead.
>sent from my iphone
Because it hasn't happened yet you worthless fricking troglodyte.
>all this whining about boycotting and review bombing the game
>they're still playing it
Very hypocritical
People aren't mad because the game is shit. They're mad because they're being told that on the 30th they won't have access to the game anymore.
>they won't have access to the game anymore
Of course they will, they just have to link their PSN account.
>yeah I was completely unaware
Aren't you a fricking discord mod? Why would you be aware of anything?
I already linked my PSN account at launch
>troony does it for free
wait, what? She nuked her account??
What kind of community manager is that? No, nvm...
Yep, same.
>she
Is that Spitz? this idiot?
>reminder that Shitz lurks Ganker and will seethe and mald at people when he sees mean words being said about him
Lmao Shitz how's it going being a homosexual, how many peepee slaps have you gotten from the bossman today for being too moronic to watch your mouth?
Impressively petty. All from players who will still be playing the game. Find real things in the world to be angry about, not a 2 minute inconvenience in a fricking video game you unloved losers.
Edit: oh man the incels are really angry now! Gain some perspective lads. The only people who have a reason to be upset are the ones who live in a country without PSN
Edit again!: I also don’t hate the epic game store and I support lgbt groups
What made-up scenario are you fussing about, schizoid?
says the schizoid
It never should have been on sale for countries outside of PSN territory in the first place. not sure how they planned on tricking customers within the EU
If what the dude in the OP says is true, it may not have been planned to be enforced in those countries
That would still be a violation of EU consumer law in the remaining regions, since being able to play without it would demonstrate that it's not necessary to supply identifying information for functionality.
The person in that screencap is a troony community manager who's trying to save face after shitting on people. If you want an actual statement from Arrowhead/Sony, look at this from their FAQ:
>I am currently in a country or territory that is not PSN-enabled. Can I still sign in and link an account?
>PSN requires users to register in their country or territory of residence. Individuals who are traveling, working, or studying abroad may create an account in a country or territory different from the one in which they are currently located.
TL;DR, "eat shit". there were never planning on it at all
it's bizarre to me that random discord frickos actually get hired but never have any kind of community management skills and are never aware of anything happening internally either which makes you wonder why they were even hired to begin with
>are you an eternally online discord groomer?
>yes
>welcome aboard
>successful game fricks up because of one moronic tiny thing
Every fricking time. None of these companies have a brain.
One on hand it's good that the community manager gets his shit putshed in for acting like a fricking moron and telling people to refund it, on the other I feel a bit bad for the devs who seemed to have no idea about it until Sony pushed out the statement.
Hell, Sony themselves should know that this crap won't fly under the EU no matter what they try as alternative.
MUH EU
top fricking kek, where do you guys come from? wow the delusion is off the charts.
Yeah bro, FRICK the EU. Just like EA, M$ and Apple tried to do it.
raping anti-customer corporations is the only good thing the EU even does, but they are pretty good at it.
maybe you should lube up in advance to make it less painful
>Hell, Sony themselves should know that this crap won't fly under the EU no matter what they try as alternative.
they just fricked up doing it after-the-fact and either should have had it as a hard requirement at launch or never at all
plenty of games require account linking on Steam, namely Rockstar stuff getting launched through Social Club and EA releases with EA App connection. The only comparison to the Helldivers situation is Epic games that were formerly sold on Steam like Rocket League and Fall Guys which can still be played via Steam if you bought them before they were pulled from the Store, but now require an Epic account when they didn't at launch
Is gaming healing even if it's just a bit?
>Tarkov has lost 5figure viwers viewers in twitch , dev had a literal meltdown live on stream
>Sºyny was forced to let people refund Stellar Blade
>Now this
>dev had a literal meltdown live on stream
Where can I see that?
I'd say BSG's twitch but I don't know if they save vods or if they didn't delete it.
What happened with Tarkov?
IIRC, they Added a moronicly expensive edition that gets pay2win features, some of which were swiped from the previously most expensive edition, which no longer has them
It's not like they're desperate with money, the frick?
Seems like they are actually.
no idea if they are or not, but never underestimate how how stupid people will become when the greed kicks in.
I am honestly not sure how greed even survived evolutionary pressure for all these millennia since it almost always leads to self-destruction pretty quickly.
Everyone seems to think that they are stacked to shit and it would make sense for that to be true but maybe that's not the case. Some people would argue that it's greed but they legitimately would have gotten less flak and more money by selling cosmetics which apparently the community was okay with as long as it wasn't CoD tier neon garbage.
The whole Tarkov debacle has been pretty weird honestly.
The sold an ultimate edition which promised access to all future DLC, then they later created a $250 super duper ultimate edition which includes paid content they don't consider "DLC"
Reminds me of the Helldivers 1 physical release in Europe. Wording on the box implied it included all DLC, not just DLC released at that time (which the NA box was explicit about what packs it included), so they had to give owners of that specific release the rest of it free or face legal ramifications.
they promised that people who bought an expensive edition early on would get all future expansions (or whatever they called them) free
then they released a $200 p2w expansion that they didn't give to those people free like they said they would
They removed a $125 special edition that included all future DLC.
Added a $250 edition that had exclusive access to DLC attached to it on top of a couple p2w things
Massive backlash from the community and the devs doubled down. Then when things got bad they tried to backpedal but missed at every step of it.
QRD they added a single player mode (the most awaited mode of all time, yes, in a multiplayer game they prefer to play singleplayer because the cheater problem is gigantic and devs will never fix it) but devs were charging 250 dollars for it
LMAO
The decision is gonna be reverted. Everyone will praise them as saviours of gaming.
I hope not, I want to see it all crash and burn.
That CM's fighting for his fricking life lmao
Yeah, just like Stellar Blade devs are in talks about reverting censorship. Nothing will happen kek
>plays a quick game of Helldivers 2
>serenity as I know this sort of fun will be inaccessible to third-world trash
>they seethe eternally
Whew lads. So good.
It really do be like dat fr finna gyatt poggers
if it was ANY company other than sony I wouldnt really care
>ignoring the endless data breaches from Sony
Steam has only been hacked once in 17years, and that was for something very minor that affected a handful of people. Steam doesn't require any verification other than a functioning email. You can create as many Steam accounts as you want, no purchase necessary. PSN locks your Playstation console.
Remember when Youtube removed the ability for you to downvote corporate bullshit you didn't like?
Remember when Reddit removed the ability for you to even discuss corporate bullshit you didn't like on their captured marketing boards?
Remember when Videogame journalism was never real and has always been propaganda owned and controlled by israelites and multinationals?
Do you think any of the major publishers LIKE the fact that Steam allows users to express dissatisfaction with a product in a space which will directly influence other people's purchases? Absolutely fricking not. The only reason you are allowed to dislike games on Steam is because Valve are still BASED
>Remember when Reddit removed the ability for you to even discuss corporate bullshit you didn't like on their captured marketing boards?
No. I don't use reddit
If you never started using it then you wouldn't understand any of the reasons why you shouldn't use it
>Sony blocks chinkBlack folk
>Sony blocks BelarusBlack folk
>Sony blocks brownhands
PlaystationChads, we just keep winning.
🙂
>700k followers
>anon thinks he's owning the man by being 1 ignore
Pathetic
I feel like not enough people are aware of that feature. It's pretty nice to never see shit from EA, Rockstar or Ubisoft (and now Sony) ever again.
what do you expect, MS is for third worlders and that's why the company is run by Indians and blacks
Sony is ran by Asians and whites
>Whites
Stop trying to self-insert into shit. All the Defining inventions of the modern world are either done by israelites and/or south-europeans. A fricking serb is the founding father of the modern world.
hush israelite
It is what it is. No amount of "we-wuzz"ing will change that.
The PS is the most popular console in mexico
>Thinks she is alpha
>Has boot taste in her mouth permanently
lmao good one, boot eating femcel.
wheres all the gay homosexuals going JUST MAKE AN ACCOUNTY WOUNTY pussy ass homosexuals YOU GIVE THEM MONEY if your not happy with something stand the frick up for yourself
Remind for you idiots. Spitz is the cuck homosexual that was bought out by arrowhead to close the community discord and ban everyone on places like reddit months back, if you ever said a single negative about the game. Even if constructive.
Must be fricking hard to not be a dickhead
>Say moronic shit
>act contrite when told you're a stupid frick
>Say moronic shit tomorrow
>my bad we cool now k
>man apologizes after being a contributing factor to his game losing thousands of dollar in potential customers and revenue. Maybe even more if any of them refunded the game.
He should be glad he didn't lose his job yet.
This. He definitely got told to apologize and shut the frick up on twitter and discord in a meeting due to it affecting countries that don't have psn.
HOLY SNEED
>Flames people
>Gets assblasted
>Don't go after us guys, you can't do that, please stop
glorified jannies are embarrassing
I have yet to see a CM that's not a fricking moron.
they all want to be the sassy wendy's CM, but don't understand that it was funny for them because of the avatar and it was only done towards people obviously baiting for it, and not towards customers with justified complaints.
This guy is such a drama queen. I don't understand why Arrowhead didn't hire a proper professional PR, especially during times like this
All the community managers for companies are kotaku communists. Game conventions hire them too. Most have no idea how deep this rabbit hole goes.
Because they do it for free
because an actual professional would cost good money.
they don't want that, they want some tard on an intern-wage who occasionally checks their discord, which they only opened in the first place so they could move discussions away from unaffiliated sites where they cannot ban criticism
Eat another grenade, homosexual
>Hired as community manager
>Can't manage their own feelings in the role and say dumb shit which would obviously cause backlash against your ass as the face of PR.
It amazes me this keeps happening among CO-OP game CMs.
>i'm not trying to attack anyone for being displeased with the change
what about
?
that post is missing context, that guy was literally spamming him and pinging him constantly that he was gonna refund, of course Ganker wont tell you that
Then he, as a "community manager" should have told him better methods to address his concerns instead of being a passive aggressive little homosexual then.
It's fricking discord, dealing with people irl Is a trillion times more stressful and worse than this b***h made internet community pussy shit. It's fricking easy mode.
>moronic janny tells people to go to steam and write negative reviews and ask for refunds.
Wonder how much money this moron cost the company
>entire job is to be a proper civilized connection between autistic devs and the consumers
>claim that belittling customers and being snotty was 'jumping on a grenade'
holy frick it's so bad. it's awfully, atrociously, significantly bad.
When and why did we let steam reviews have so much power?
Valve NEEDS to do something about this abuse.
>10 cents have been transfered to your account
>Popular games only popular because big streamer budget
>game actually big micro transaction machine and data thief
I'm seeing so many people give arrowhead a free pass saying "But it was sony!" The Arrowhead staff are just as bad in the situation.
.They started by actively telling people to spam their discord server to drown out criticism
.They then temporarily locked the steam discussions.
. Started targeting and insulting players
.They have started deleting and banning people for talking about or sending screenshots of the insulting in question (something spitz has been doing since hd1)
. to rub all of it in one of the community managers "TwinBeard" said it'd pass and we'd just get over it.
. And now you need a verified phone number to access their discord server.
This isn't all of it but a good bit. This isn't the first, but the SECOND time arrowhead have attacked their players for having issues with their shit decisions. They baited us in and locked the door behind us to stop us getting a refund.
This is completely Sony's fault and now the devs are being punished for it. Playstation doesn't have anyone with a brain working for them or else they'd have seen this a mile away. It's because of things like this why I'd never buy any Sony product and actively spend time telling people I know how shit of a company they are.
Helldivers 2 is a Sony product.
Which is exactly what I said. The devs only do what Sony commands them to.
The onus is on Sony not the developers. The devs make the game to Sony's specifications and they have no input on PSN. It's Sony who should've foreseen this and limited sales to regions which they know will work with PSN, not the developers. As far as the core game is concerned the developers have done nothing wrong.
>This is completely Sony's fault
It's not. They claimed that this was always going to happen, yet they apparently put zero effort into checking if PSN is even available everywhere and so on.
If Sony really told them from day 1 that this is what is going to happen, then they had ample time to prepare for this, properly communicate it and so on.
They are just telling one stupid lie after the other and every further lie just makes them look even worse because it's once again conflicting with the other attempts at damage control they already did.
Arrowhead has really bad pr, at this point saying nothing would have been better
if you told me it's someone intentionally sabotaging them, I wouldn't even be surprised, lol
>most of the outrage over this is the shitty way arrowhead handled this
I wouldn't be either, this is why games should never have official discords, people working on the game and the fans should never have constant communication. It doesn't matter how strong willed you are, when people start shitting on things you care about, you'll eventually get super emotional and sperg out, so when that happens the fans better not be able to see it
They got caught in the lie because the fricking website even said it was optional, which they changed yesterday
it's pretty funny just how badly they handled this.
the first thing that happens in my company whenever we have a software issue customers will most certainly be upset with is an internal communication towards all client facing employees to shut the frick up and direct all customer complaints or questions about this to CSM, so they can make sure they are able to present a coherent narrative.
and your manager will definitely tear you a new butthole if you go off on your own and tell the clients your own story that has not been aligned upon
nah, the devs are shitheads too
see
If Arrowhead had any foresight then they would have named the option to skip the requirement for the PSN account to be "Register Later".
you people are so fricking gullible
any shitty marketing speak will instantly make you suck the dev's wiener
spoiler: they are not doing anything about it
>the publisher has the ability to modify code and push updates behind the developer's back
That sounds like a load of bullshit
that guy is absolutely unsuited for the role of CM because he just keeps spouting whatever stupid lie is going through his head right now and which he thinks might save their asses, and whenever it doesn't work he just does a 180° and tells another, completely conflicting lie.
anyone working in CM should know when to shut the frick up and only give the customer non-committal answers that try to calm them down and wait for an official communication in the near future
well they have the ability to force them to do it or they'll be considered breaking contract or some shit like that
we all know arrowhead are moronic they would definitely fall for something like that and end up without any choice
>decision reverted
>adds a 'meta mandatory' stratagem as a reward for linking a PSN account in its place, PS5 users get it automatically
No, they are finished. I have spoken.
Sorry, but I only trust real pandas
Silence, infidel!
the mandatory psn link thing was on the steam page since day 1.
try reading next time, chuds
Prove it (You won't)
Chuds won, the devs and sony bent the knee. Incels are too powerful.
I’ll prove it once time traveling is invented.
You would know it’s true if you had actually read the steam page before buying the game
>"here's your community manager, bro"
>muh media literacy
>I bet they don’t even know that Darth Vader is le bad
Why do the left have such difficulty separating reality from fiction?
because they want total control of you
The two are the same to them
REMEMBER
WHEN SOMEONE CALLS YOU A WHINY KEK THAT NEEDS TO STOP REVIEWBOMBING
THATS A CONSOLETARD TRYING TO DEARM YOU OF YOUR STRONGEST WEAPON AGAINST Black person PUBLISHERS
>Steam refusing refunds despite some people soon going to be unable to play due to the game being sold in countries where you can't make PSN accounts.
I feel like there's gonna be some serious legal bullshit brewing if the current situation holds.
>ends up making exceptions for just the affected locations
I saw a post in an earlier thread that they don't want to give people the choice to break PSN rules or not play the game after they paid for it but if you are going to do that shit for those customers then you should do it for everyone else
They'll probably play chicken and make it only apply to future purchases of the game, not ones played prior to a specific date.
That would be a triple AAA level frick-up that would lead to the most glorious shitshow Sony has ever seen. The salt generated would be legendary and rightly so.
the automatic refund feature will reject the requests because they don't fulfill the relevant criteria within which it can order a refund.
wait for next week when people are back in the office and can actually take a look at this to decide how to handle it.
nothing is going to happen, sorry buddy your adrenaline rush ends now
Sony destroying the single good game that saves their ass.
Why are they like this?
they were embarrassed by a third party contractor, they had to humble those that would dare to upstage them
TOO LATE
GO BANKRUPT GO BANKRUPT GO BANKRUPT GO BANKRUPT GO BANKRUPT GO BANKRUPT GO BANKRUPT GO BANKRUPT
We might even get a troonycord community manager killing himself over this.
homosexual backpedalling hard after telling fans to go frick themselves
no you see he was being literal, not passive aggressive
Frick this troony fan account, and frick the community manager.
>please stop going after the CMs even if they literally cannot perform the single thing they're paid to do properly
how about fire him
>CMs make mistakes
Maybe their devs and shit shouldn't fricking use discord given this is a daily occurrence now
they definitely shouldn't. I dread every customer call at work where we also have to pull in devs because they always say the most moronic shit that just makes things ten times worse.
>guys stop being mean to spicz it's not his fault he's a complete moron and a gay
Reminder that this wienersucking account was doing the same with palworld before. This troony's whole goal is to get as much followers before selling the account to some onlyfans prostitute like all gimmick account.
>developer makes shit decision
>going after the developer to express discontent is not the way
I still can't believe that "community manager" is a job, much less that they're giving money to this dumb troony
>CM fails at doing the very thing he is supposed to do the moment there is any sort of stress in the community
All those Community Managers have no clue how to actually manage a community. All they do is post random shit about how great the community is when the game is doing well. The moment they actually have to work they instantly forget that they actually represent a company there.
That's because they're not community managers, they're literally discordgays hired as community managers just because they know how to use discord. That's it. And like all discordgays with a moderator role, they think they're the center of the world with a massively inflated ego.
>hired troony CM to be spokesperson for your game
>all they do is create drama and attention prostitute and ruin your public image
lol. lmao.
>coming after the devs and moderators in here isn't the solution
Yes because sitting quietly while you get ass raped is sure to change your rapist's mind.
>"my team"
lol
This is a psyop
Strange. None of the games I play require any of that. They also never suddenly needed one after a few months.
YOU NEED A MS ACCOUNT FOR WINDOWS
YOU NEED A UBISOFT AND EA ACCOUNT FOR STEAM
WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?!?!?!
>you need an MS account for windows
No you don’t?
Unless you have 11 or some shit
You don't even need it for 11.
I don't play any of those games.
And also, did any of those games add that requirement POST LAUNCH?
I'll await examples.
How many of those games mandated them post-launch? Not even fricking EA did that.
Agreed. You shouldn't be lenient with gamers. You should force all your shit up front, that way nobody will complain because the urge to play the latest fotm due to FOMO is much greater.
Like Black folk, gamers only know how to get whipped. You try to reason with them and they ape out.
Maybe I am too cynical.
But some Sony exec's Fiscal Year bonus scaling is probably hinging on the number of PSN accounts.
And if that's true then they would probably happily burn Arrowhead to the ground if it meant securing said bonus and propping up that Fiscal Year Report.
Regardless of how short sighted that is business wise. Even if it makes way less money than simply not fricking with Helldivers.
Lol it’s because
June 19th is in a month and they need to have the infrastructure to ban people for team killing the troony capes. One of the community mods even said it’s for the purpose of having better tools to ban people, it’s not hard to put 2 and 2 together
>Sony
>changes their mind
>reverts decision
I wonder what you have to do to actually lose your job as a community manager when that person is still allowed to talk to the community in the name of the company.
Helldivers 2 review score will literally never recover. They will at most go back up to Very Positive if they change the psn account requirement. But not enough people will bother changing their reviews to bring it back up to overwhelmingly Positive
>old reviews around this time period marked as 'off-topic'
Don't worry, big daddy Steam will just mark those reviews as coming from a review bomb so they're hidden from the final score
>Sony game requires Sony login
>REEEEEEEEE
Confirmation people will make up issues to be mad over.
>the PSN requirementfilters out third world subhumans
based. they should keep it
>Sony makes a series of stupid decisions in a short period of time causing people to shit on them (even more than usual)
>All of a sudden they gain a load of diehard zealots fighting their corner and trying to justify their bullshit
I know all you bots and pajeets can’t deviate from your scripts but you could at least try and make it look a bit more organic.
>leftypol corporate defense force going into overtime
Why do they worship corporations so much?
reminder for some reason arrowhead is so moronic they supposedly cannot ban people via steam, they HAVE to have a psn account attached to the steam account to ban it. so yes it is unironically because they couldn't ban people earlier for saying 'le yikes!' shit in chat
because they are literally mindless animals who can operate only when given orders, when you realize that they have no agency of their own and that they're nothing more than a programmable flesh golem to spew someone else's bullshit their actions make perfect sense
Not an argument.
I was fully on board against Sony with the SB thing.
Now it's just your own fricking fault for failing to read and actually buying a game that demanded a PSN account.
People who aren't low IQ Black folk didn't buy it, like me, for that exact reason.
Because they are the corporations. Not the executives, mind you, the middle management, human resources.
because those corporations give them (imagined) power.
some corpo adds a troony flag or whatever? that was his (pronouns: she/her) personal victory over all the chuds in the world, he defeated all of them.
you are schizophrenic.
Prove it.
take your pills and our posts will disappear
Wait, is that like a personal attack or something?
Aren't you guys trying to convince people to sub to the onions? To buy that season pass?
You guys do know that attacking and insulting your customer base is the very reason all those triple AAA studios are in the sorry state they are today right?
Have fun watching gaming companies collapse, massive layoffs happening, stonks tanking, and all the investors walking away. If you're a paid shill, your fired ass belongs to the streets in about 8 months from now.
Have fun bagging groceries, Mr game journalist.
You know what?
I don't even fricking want Bloodborne anymore.
If linking PSN to Steam is required, when why I could skip it?
hey, stop noticing things
>B-B-BUT IT WAS ONLY MEANT TO BE TEMPORARY-
this is an unironic response you will hear, that the game was too packed on launch so they just disabled it for the time being. at no point was it brought up it was temporarily disabled, at no point in the game itself was it brought up that it would be made mandatory. for 3 fricking months (three months) time it has not been mandatory and everything was fine, its only now that sony comes down pressing from on high to demand what they think's theirs
>b-but...
Shut the frick up, illiterate Black person.
You've been debunked countless time and you still trying to weasel your way out of it.
It's your own fricking fault.
Cope and seethe, you aren't getting that refund.
>at no point in the paragraph you posted is it ever said it will be mandatory
>only that the feature has been disabled as it does not work and will be reenabled at a later date for those who want the option to link accounts
imagine simping for fricking sony of all companies, look at you, for fricks sake
Console gays have no standards, they unironically pay just to use the internet they already have
>it d-doesn't count
Keep seething.
Where was your outrage and "SONY LIED" when you could skip the linking despite being told to link?
That didn't arouse your suspicions? Why didn't you fight to uphold what was written on the steam page?
Thousands of players were cheated out of creating a PSN account by sony at launch!
you're going to choke on my wiener today, and tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow until they got me laid out in the funeral home when i finally pass away with my wiener choking you
>ignores the point
Sigh
The point is that you fell for the hype and bought a Sony game that said you needed a PSN account on the steam page.
Funny how I didn't buy it, because I can actually read.
>i have no skin in the game but im still going to simp for sony anyways
>huur duur you don't agree with me you le bad Sony simp
No, I'm making fun of you for buying the latest fotm because some streamer told you to and getting fricked over it.
>ignores the point yet again
Sigh
>muh point
Next time stay away from anything even remotely Sony and PSN related.
Hope you've learned your lesson.
>still ignores it
Double sigh
Go sigh on reddit, homosexual.
>implying this shithole isn't just reddit at this point
Sigh
Good luck with your refund :^)
Imma in EU, so ya boi is getting that refund.
the duality of man
except the first guy is no man, but a snivelling coward
Good luck with the refund :^)
>people mad, sony getting pushback
why would i refund it when the decision is going to be reversed before it's implemented?
that'd be silly.
>Sony
>reverting anything
And yet again, you don't fricking listen or learn do you.
Just how you ignored all the warning signs before.
what are you basing this precedent on?
ah right all the other games that required a PSN account months after launch.
what were they again?
>b-but they didn't do it before
Ok, keep ignoring me.
This is a new Sony policy going forward, moron. They want to integrate PSN into PC.
Yeah they will suddenly abandon all their plans, when they are doing it even for their single player games releasing in the future.
>months after launch
i know i posted a lot of words but you gotta read them all if you want to participate in the conversation
It was there from day one.
Keep coping.
prove it
Should've played the game on day 1, newshit.
aww, look at him flounder
adorable
Concession accepted, newshit
good.
two dollars for a hot dog and a buck fifty for a soda.
thank you for your patronage
>temporarily disabled
I think this phrase is a whole separate kind of insane that people aren't talking about enough because there's so much other stupid shit being said. Their argument is implicitly saying that they think corps can take REQUIRED parts of the product you paid for away, for an indeterminate length of time. That's such an overexaggerated example of tyrannical power and they're saying that negative steam reviews is too harsh a response.
>Your plumbing company has temporarily disabled your main intake pipe
>We have temporarily disabled your cars access to windshield wipers
>I temporarily disabled my tax payments to the government
Imagine if you could do this with other stuff. Like getting a new internet connection and just skipping half the contract with your ISP only for it to randomly take effect later.
*AHEM*
ACKTUALLY they posted that the skip feature was only temporary right here on the steam forums!
...Well the support sub-forums!
In a single thread
....about halfway down the page in between all the other known issues
BUT THEY TOLD YOU! !!
it was advertised from the start in the trailer that a psn account was required but they had servers issues who couldn't handle all the queries
>caring this much about this shit
no wonder people hate gamers
If this feature was so mandatory then why has it taken months to implement?
>We needed to fix the servers on launch
Cool so why didn’t they force this account linking in the first month? It’s almost as if some executive at Sony saw an opportunity to get his annual performance bonus by siphoning off Steam users to try and pad out the numbers and metrics for PlayStation once they saw this game was performing a lot better than expected.
The fact that people are defending Sony being able to hold something you bought on Steam hostage because you don’t want to make a shitty account with them and link it to your own one on a separate platform is laughable.
I didn't even know this shit wasn't required. Part of the reason I avoided the game on release is that Steam was telling me I need a PSN account so I just assumed that was the case. Seeing this shitshow from the outside is funny. I expect this to go like any gamer boycott, Steam will remove the review bombing, Snoy will keep fricking you in the ass and 99% of the playerbase will eventually give up and bend over.
>I expect this to go like any gamer boycott
People keep saying this as a "haha just give up and keep buying and playing the game", yet Helldivers 2 lost a full 1/3 of it's playerbase compared to this same time last Saturday. At all times so far today, the playerbase has been approximately 25-35% lower than just a week ago compared to the same time of day. It dropped from the top 4 played Steam games to not even being on the chart at specific times of day. The playerbase dropped below 100k during primetime in all areas east of the UK. It won't breach a 6-digit player count until primetime in western Europe, and even then, not by much.
The one thing that offends Steam-users more than anything is demanding they use additional services, which the devs doubled down on multiple times, regardless of what they said in the OP image. That doesn't just "blow over". They will inevitably recover, but never return to their previous state.
>haha just give up and keep buying and playing the game
Nobody is saying that, moron.
People who aren't newshits already have experience with this shit and know how it plays out.
say Thank You
>forced to have a PlayStation account
>Give the option to skip and never see the screen again
What did they mean by this?
The type of people claiming they're leaving and refunding will not be missed.
By me, because you all sound like insufferable babies who were probably giving the worst takes on balance
AH and Sony WILL miss them though- good thing I'm not them XD
can we also get this community manager, whoever this guy is, fired? his/her pr is shit. definitely not qualified.
unless he's related by blood to someone on the C-level, his career at the company is already over anyway.
this is too big of a disaster, and he significantly contributed to it.
It's a troony. Firing him now would instantly be negative PR because all his troony friends would spread the news about how he was fired for some unjust reason or because of his sexual orientation.
he would be fired for being a massive fricking moron
>There must be a better way to let people play the game whom can't access PSN!!
Yea, it's called doing what the game currently does and make it optional you fricking morons.
>CM yesterday - “lmao I thought you chuds were refunding why are you still here?”
>CM today - “Achtually thank you for refunding it gives us more leverage when talking to Sony”
Damn that phone call they had must have been ball busting.
>...we won't be making the requirement mandatory...
>we
>We're not going to force
>we're
Uh oh, diversity hire made another big mistake. Now you made it sound like YOUR company is the one who can decide if people should need a PSN account or not. At the same time you want to push the narrative that Sony is the one behind everything.
>PR speaking without a script
Yeah, was my first thought, too. If it's in your power to not enable it for countries that don't have access to PSN, then it's also in your power to not enable it at all.
Either Snoy is forcing this on you or not.
They should have revoked the guy's access to all company accounts after the shitfest he caused yesterday.
Although given how terribly they handled all this, it probably wasn't a company account to begin with but his private one.
I think we can all agree, that no matter what happens, Sony still has no games
well they're about to have one less if they keep this up
I'll admit, complaining does work sometimes.
They wont because its a community overreaction and its what lets them be able to ban people for cheating and not hop from family share accounts. They get rid of the sony requirement theyll make you register a different account. moronic redditors dont understand what theyre even mad about. Could be mad they constantly frick up the gameplay or the games constant crashing. But those are talking about the gameplay and thats outside the overton window of acceptable gaming discourse.
>its what lets them be able to ban people for cheating
So what is nProtect anticheat for?
How many people do they need to ban that everyone is forced to link their accounts?
If that many people are hacking/cheating then there’s more fundamental issues at play with the game.
Once again you act as if this was neither voluntary or an informed decision, on top of choosing the most moronic shit to care about over the prevalence of cheaters. Yeah theyre going to ban the people who install cheat engine who freeze the game and script in every item thats behind a battlepass, which can functionally be any number of pc players. Being registered to a system capable of differentiating the users is necessary to even be able to detect illegal data, let alone properly enforce a ban. The only feasible solution otherwise is to use VAC or some shit but in the end its the same shit. You registered for an account so you could play a game.
Yo Shitz, thanks for making it easy to uninstall. Real nice of you, might have put a few hundred more hours in and bought it for a few more buddies over the years. Thanks for saving me money.
Back to Vermintide we go.
well I guess I get to try darktide again.
l8r nerdz
>Went back to darktide, played 3 missions and dropped it again
Its still the same game with a few more cosmetics added in for achievements
>revert decision and state that accounts will never be mandatory
>wait a month
>add 10-15% currency/xp boost to accounts that have linked ps accounts
>possibly release a big update at the same time to incentivize linking accounts
This would be the smartest move by them because people would just lap it up like good goys. It deals with the shitstorm happening right now and even paints them in a good light because they would stand up to sony to defend their players.
The Helldivers 2 situation is especially bad because the game works perfectly well without a PSN account which proves that the requirement is pure bullshit.
they just want to be able to ban people for things valve does not consider to be a banable offense
0 hours played last 2 weeks though, I haven't touched it since the mech was added
Was already losing my patience with the devs prior to this, this was just the last straw to make me permanently uninstall.
This isn't a Blizzard situation, players aren't going to just come crawling back for a mediocre horde shooter.
Except they literally are playing it now.
What kind of banning power do you need for a coop game
Same shit with the nguard bullshit, kernel level anticheat.... when there is nobody on the other side to get cheated
except the bugs
Getting faster progression than other players is cheating.
Im starting to see a connection to the outrage on here and certain countries that cant make sony accounts
Yeah I'm sure all those poor players in Afganistan and Uganda are behind it.
>people affected the most by this are also the angriest, hmm how curious!
really turning the gears in that big head of yours
It's literally a non issue. You can lie about your location.
Literally everyone has a JP account and nothing happened to it for the last decade.
so true saar. india can makes accounts and benchod pakistan cant so INDIA #1 JAI HIND
>Black person is proud to give his data away to any ~~*international corporation*~~ that decides to frick him
Next you'll say "I already accept being a slave for other corps, why not Sony too? I claim not to like it but I already decided to stop standing up for myself"
They'll just do the anti-reviewbomb thing and clear all the reviews lmfao
and why would Valve do that? it's AH and Snoy who fricked up, not them. no reason for Valve to get involved and draw some of the fire, too
Valve doesn't do anything. Developers can choose to remove 2 weeks of reviews whenever they feel like it
>Implying valve can delete/hide 100,000 reviews with zero backlash
Uhm yes? Steamies are the most mindbroken "people" in the world. They would and will defend literally anything if it's le gaben.
Most review bombs aren't even close to the 100,000 range. Silencing that many people opinions at once will instantly be big news everywhere
Yeah and it's been proven that Valve totally gives a frick about internet shitfits.
If Valve culls the reviews before Arrowhead "compromises" with the reddit brigade, a whole lot of that anger will jump over to them. They just need to wait until Sony "gives in" and says that you only need to give us your data if you live in a first world country, which is most of their customers anyway. "We did it reddit" will happen because only most of us are willingly giving up our data, and then Valve can delete every negative review ever made on Helldivers 2 because the heckin devorinos stood up and fought snoy for us!!!
The more negative reviews at a time the easier it is to classify as review bombing.
They do it with every review bomb and nobody cares
The first time the game patched and got slammed with negative reviews, Steam gave Sony the ability to completely hide recent reviews. For about 3 days, Helldivers 2 was the only game with hidden recent reviews. And nobody stood up at all.
So yes, it will happen, because it has happened, and for this same game.
It might happen, but it's too late because it broke social media containment, everybody fricking knows about it now.
I hadn't even heard of this, that's pretty bad.
the game was mixed review on launch as well because the servers were shit and they put a 400k player limit on the game so you could end up not being to even play the game you paid for
Pretty sure a game needs to be out for like a month before the recent reviews score will start popping up on the store page. Doing something digging:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/871540/BMX_Streets/?curator_clanid=4777282
Just under a month - no recent reviews
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2835570/Buckshot_Roulette/?curator_clanid=4777282
~A month - no recent reviews
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1269020/No_Plan_B/?curator_clanid=4777282
>A month - recent reviews
You heard your orders goy- I mean soldier. Make the PSN account for democracy
>Grace period
Your mother gets her grace period when she sees me.
I like posts like these because had they said that at day 1, you'd fill it out like a good go- I mean soldier no questions asked, because you just want to get into the game everyone is hyping up.
Now you had 2 months to play and you no longer care so you allow yourself to act spoiled.
Lol none of you gays would have done it regardless
THE GRACE PERIOD IS OVER PC homosexualS
Once all of these streamers rent is due they'll cave
>We're linking Steam and PSN so we can ban cheating players from all of our services
>Oh, and, Russians Chinese players aren't required to link
The most ineffective anticheat policy ever made.
>Oh, and, Russians Chinese players aren't required to link
More like
>all Russian and Chinese players are auto banned
Also, you do realize you can just lie about your country and nothing will happen?
Always lovely when a game's playerbase grabs the developer by the balls in response to being fricked over instead of bending over and taking it
despite the pajeet sony shills' best efforts they simply cannot stop it. they think the consumer is just a brainless piggybank
>cannot stop it
>game is still alive and well with many people playing it
They are the ones playing it right now, moron.
losing around 1/4 of your playerbase overnight is not insignificant
Review bombs never work, and you are moronic if think the community is holding anyone by the balls.
They will still force the accounts, but they will also release the Illuminate so everyone will come crawling back (which they will do)
Your literally moronic if you think review bombing does nothing. steam reviews are the biggest indicator for people deciding to purchase a game on the platform. Every normie that looks at the game and sees mostly negative will just move on to look at the next game that looks interesting
>move on to look at the next game that looks interesting
If there's a next game that looks interesting.
Mostly off topic but it's funny that I had helldivers 1 on my backlog for 5 years because Steam recommended it as similar to DRG and I never saw any threads about it on Ganker.
Now HD2 is probably the most popular multiplayer game on this site (for now).
don't care, still playing Helldivers 2
You're lurking and posting in this thread instead of playing right this moment, moron
>he doesn't have two monitors so he can seamlessly switch between shitposting and playing
your bloodline is weak
>Only two monitors
Is match making really taking that much longer now? I didn't think it'd get to OW2 levels
>You need to link up a PS account because... you just do okay!
eat my shit
So is Stellar Blade uncensored yet?
Just asking because I want to know if I can safely buy HD2 now, since all your efforts are sure to change Sony's mind.
A community manager is a fricking joke of a job at this point, just as worthless as a dedicated project manager or scrum master.
>S-sony made us do it
It's all so tiresome.
can anyone give any reason for the account anyway? like the system was clearly not made with them seeing as it worked without them before
data collecion because sony is floudering. testing the waters for future pc releases, with the end goal of making ps plus mandatory
they're trying to initiate the push into subscription based studios for online on steam
psn numbers need to go up or someone gonna get to explain why the numbers dont go up
crossplay
crossplay works without it
PSN account number inflation for shareholders because consoles are failing hard and HD2 sold much better on PC.
makes it easier to ban cheaters
Sell your data
Pad the numbers for shareshitters
Ban you for no no words
>Create an ever dynamic identity
>Every so many weeks, subtly changing detais
>Some get shifted back, others shifted
>pay grade, employment, different
>data brokers are constantly updating with the inconsistencies and selling with either outdated inconsistencies or up to date inconsistencies
>mfw I'll probably disappear one day because data brokers are getting mad at my shit wasting their time and server space with falsities
Alternatively, they never pick up on it and you're not the only one doing it, so they make erroneous predictions about the market and... Create products... That... No one likes...
Wait a fricking minute!
They want you in the PS ecosystem. Sony doesn't want to be on Steam, in the future they're going to try to create their own PC store like every other moronic publisher. The PSN requirement gets their foot in the door.
>like the system was clearly not made with them seeing as it worked without them before
The friendlist system being a total shitshow suggests that it was built with the requirement in mind, doing something as basic as changing your name on Steam breaks it.
They want to sell data. You're the product. If you give them your information it will end up leaked in a data breach.
Manager confirms Arrowherad is in talks to revert some of the decisions
Is it the same community manager that told people to frick off if they didn't like the change? How about reverting his employment status while they're at it.
>it's been like this since day one
Then why did sonysissies edit their TOS yesterday?
nice meme but all the trailers of the game showed psn account was required. you lost PChud
you will get an account because you have no backbones.
you're adding nothing to the conversation. this is a win for 0 consumers. celebrating it isn't trolling it's just bootlicking and cheering for your own demise. just leave the board forever
you're just barking in defense of you god valve. You homosexuals oppened the gate of needing launchers and log ins in order to play video games, this is karma.
this image has been deemed unpostable by the sony defense force. refrain from posting it. you are an entitled baby and the devs and publishers did nothing wrong.
you have fifteen minutes to comply and remove all traces of this image from your devices.
It was temporarily optional until the fix the issues.
They fixed them.
Now they are warning you because there is no longer a grace period.
>It was temporarily optional until the fix the issues.
What 'issue' was fixed? Their annual shareholder reports? lmao.
the previous ps games on steam required a psn account.
Ok, but we all know the game is perfectly playable without it and all they're just doing this to pad their PSN account numbers for their shareholder meetings. Why gobble the coporate wiener of sony?
Refunds are happening.
>tax
The frick?
Does your third world country not have taxes?
>tax
>on digital goods
Steam doesn't have tax moron.
works on my machine
It does, you're just a third worlder:
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/finance/taxfaq#:~:text=in%20addition
They already denied tons of refunds yesterday. You can't request another one, by the way.
perfectly phrased anon. well done