As long as Pokemon stays turn based, the games will never reach their full potential.
Or give them to another company. That'll help too.
As long as Pokemon stays turn based, the games will never reach their full potential.
Or give them to another company. That'll help too.
Fippy bippy
I like turn based game though.
No you don't, that's your coping pokegay brainwashing pumping your brain full of dopamine to trick you into enjoying turn based gameplay
Slow down Black person. I play other turn based rpgs like smt and dragon quest i really like turn based games. I'm serious.
b***h being a turn based monster catcher is the whole reason I play this game
Turn based combat goes and I go with it
Lmao what is samurott going to do? cut snorlax's toes?
stab him in the dick
Samurott can jump. Where's your imagination, anon?
Spin off before the mobile era were usually better than mainline games
True but the autists here would rather keep playing the same rock-paper-scissors simulator that they've been playing for 30 years.
Turn based combat should have died with the Game Boy.
You should have died with the gameboy...
Ooooh, the butthurt Pokemon fanboy is feeling edgy today!
Hehe
They HAVE reached their fullest potential - the biggest brand in the world, immune to the sperging and movements of angry disaffected adults, because they built themselves with 7 year old children, thus will constantly and continually have a ready-made cold market to sell to, due to the trend of humans having offspring to replace themselves and a need to entertain their offspring in the intervening years between birth and leaving the nest to take their place as an independent human of the world. The type of people crying over it are the same kind of people not worth trying to change for, because they'll get tired of THAT in a few years time and cry for something new again.
Typical Pokegay bootlicker cope. "T-t-the multibillion dollar company doesn't have to r-release products the c-c-customers actually want, t-t-t-they can keep tricking children into buying their junk!"
Yeah, they didn't jump to making more legends games, more ORAS-tier remakes the fans cried for or even bothered culling the entire kiddy premise of the thing by having the MC be another new trainer, instead of a newly graduated pokécop being handed a partner attack 'mon to fight poképoachers or whatever hilariously "mature" premise you want the series to go in, because the pastel cartoony monsters sell to little children. Sterilise humanity, it's the only way to stop that ethos and maybe get a few years of adult only pokémon games for yourself.
The custormer buy merch more than games
Which doesn't affect Game Freak's bottom line at all. Which means they have no excuse.
>1/3rd of all TPC's profits are Game Freak's as income
>merch selling more per year equates to a larger cut of profit from TPC
>"merch sales don't affect their bottom line"
When it comes to having more in the company's kitty at the end of the financial year, vs leaving it out there for some other fricker to take, it very much does. The next big economic instability is on the way and after covid already rocked the industry, scant wonder those with diverse revenue streams are continuing to promote them.
They made a non turn-based Pokemon game and it was forgotten. Pokemon fans think they want things, but then they get them, they don't live up to their unrealistic fantasies, and they forget about it.
That's a shitty fighting game.
LEGENDS is the best switch game to date, guess what Pokemon fans want? Something like LEGENDS but more fleshed out with online capability !!!!
Legends stil is a turn based game. What you homosexuals are even talking about now? I'm so confused.
>Muh legends
It flopped for a reason
>flopped
>best selling game in the image
based moron
Didn’t know that 14 was greater than 15 🙂
Show me which game got 15.
Both bdsp and lgpe, anon
>B-b-but muh single version!
pretending to have autism and not understanding how things work in the real world isn’t a good thing, anon
So you can't name a single game, got it.
It's hilarious how morons fail to understand the whole reason behind dual releases and November launches. The machine only ares about money anon, and to think these things are done for a measly return of less than the quarter million in difference between the sales of the games is just denial at this point. In the alternate universe where PLA was ready two months earlier without BDSP to cannibalize sales, without a new gen announcement three weeks later to cannibalize sales, and with two versions to maximize sales, it would have easliy surpassed what BDSP sold.
And that's completely ignoring the genuinely real possibility that it already did outsell them, as I've been seeing your shitty image for a long time already.
bdsp is a single game anon. Stop shitposting.
>b-but muh two versions
Yeah, two versions of the same game.
>two versions of the same game
I agree, and if they did this with PLA it would have sold more than BDSP as well. These beliefs are not contradictory anon.
Neither is BDSP or LGPE so it's an irrelevant point on this case.
> I agree, and if they did this with PLA it would have sold more than BDSP as well
>when the game would have become impossible to complete due to needing two versions of the same game in order to "meet all the pokemons" and get Arceus
Gee, it’s almost as if placuck don’t even understand the point of the game they shill 24/7
Where did I say they needed to make version exclusives? Even if they did, they wouldn't be needed to see Acres in the end, just like event mons weren't needed. Shit bait anon. it's almost like you completely forgot the decision you had to make between what Origin DP Dragon you wanted in an Origin Ball.
> Where did I say they needed to make version exclusives?
by asking for two versions of the same game you dumbfrick
Well no. They could make two game with the same obtainable Pokemon and normies will still lap them up.
>hur dur, pokegays would buy anything
and yet they didn’t bought plass. Really show how much of a failure that game was.
I already explained why anon
You’re argument flops the moment you realize BDSP’s double pack exists.
Save it, it's the resident ESL incel mad Game Freak made Legends instead of the DP remake with Megas centro told him was an absolute certainty to happen.
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bdsp exist you autist manchild. It also outsold plass
DP also exists, but instead of playing either of them, you cry Game Freak made Legends instead of making the DP remake.
Almost as if you had invested your moronic ESL arse into a meme told to you by a monkey pulling shit out his arse for attention and then turned into an angry monkey pulling shit out your arse in turn when it was revealed Game Freak were NOT making the re-do of your childhood your mother spent half your family's yearly income to buy second-hand in 2008, thus you had gotten yourself worked up for nothing (as you only want to be recognised for being an old fricker, you don't give a shit about the games themselves, else you'd have seen Legends as the love letter to Gen 4 it was).
>y-youre the one crying because your favorite remake sold more than muh shitty borderline spinoff
Smartest of all placucks
Everyone hates bdsp. Cope and seethe.
Isnt that literally them they are looking at?
yes but also no
rei and akari are somehow exact lookalikes to dawn and lucas but its not certain if they even exist in the same universe
But depending on gender choice at the start, neither rei or akari appears, as Lucas or Dawn get chosen at the start. So neither can actually be the ancestors of both.
I hate when casuals fail to play games they claim to be a fan of.
I played that game, but the game does not say that is dawn or lucas. There is no confirmation, the only names that get dropped is the other gender rival in the past, and since the female rival matches the female player default and vice versa for male, it can be assumed that the name of the player is either rei or akari
Not play BDSP? It's blatant it's an older Lucas/Dawn but as in SV, time travel filters morons hard, to the point we have homosexuals like you ignoring Game Freak basically remade DP, without making it a blatant copy of DP, to the point the MC of DP goes and beats a deranged looney who wants to break and remake the world to suit himself in Legends, before finally meeting God, which affords them the ability to meet God 4 years in their past, prior to the events of Legends, taking a 15 year old from modern times to early 1900's Hisui.
Play. The. Fricking. games.
Oh and the implication the MC was able to find Manaphy, due to reading the story of the prince of the sea in Canalave library during his pokémon journey.
Calm down tinfoilhat.
This is not a fanfic thread.
So why you here then? Game Freak outright told you c**ts what happened, but "le stupid children get lost with time travel" rule means you're all fricking lost and sperging because a 4 year timeskip happened before Arceus was able to send the BDSP MC to the past, to fix the shit that mirrored the shit they'd stopped in BDSP prior to growing to 15, you stupid fricking child.
They never said or implied that whatsoever. Four years is fanfic. The parallels with both the stories interpreted by you are fanfic, as it could just be that the legendary recognizes their relative and not them. Just like with every other MC, if one exists as the rival, the other is you. Just like how if your rival is dawn in BDSP, you’re canonically Lucas and they’re in their own houses swapping their origins. Same applies with PLA, where the one you don’t pick is born in Hisui and the other is from the future. Nothing indicates they’re Lucas and Dawn except looking alike. By that standard you can say every ancestor character in PLA that looks identical is actually the same character from the future that got Ingo’d and forgot who they were prior.
The two games compliment each other, you stupid Black person. You wanting to headcanon them as separate entries entirely, ignores the clear parallels between both, the clear implications between both and the outright canonical happenings of both (the MC of BDSP, having prior knowledge of stopping extinction-level threats caused by a deranged frickwit was sent back in time to save a community of people ill-equipped to stop an incoming extinction-level threat caused by a deranged frickwit, they being 4 years older due to a Galaxy team member starting their rough age as being so from when they started their pokémon journey and saying they'd need to work their keep, the MC of BDSP gaining access to Arceus when the MC of Legends proves himself worthy of meeting It and the fact Dawn was always treated as the spare when DP was the in Generation, meaning she's still the also-ran in the redos.
I’m not saying there aren’t connections, just not the schizo ones you invented in your head. Even cutscenes show the MC shocked at certain things that shouldn’t shock them if they played through DP. They even have Galarian shirts upon isikai just to confirm they’re not the same person but no, you psychoes still push this headcanon that’s never confirmed.
What the frick does this prove? Articulate your thoughts you fricking miscreant.
>people can't holiday to other regions and buy souvenirs
You are such a thick little b***h, it'd be hilarious, if it wasn't such an indictment of your parents, your upbringing and your supposed education.
There’s no reason GF put region exclusive outfits except to make a point that they’re different people, though.
>except to make a point that they’re different people, though.
Play. the. Games. It's pretty blatant when you play them back-to-back and revisiting BDSP after finishing Legends sees the MC get to meet Arceus, afetr meeting arceus oin the past. yoiu can cry like a moronic b***h however longyou want, the fact one canon game canoically iumpacts a canoical series game, by adding an event planned then removed from a canon game and FINALLY allowing people to experience that canon game says otherwise.
But that's because Legends is a sequel, prequel and remake to Gen 4's DP and a love letter to Japan's 2nd favourite region, instead of just some shitty lazy remake like ORAS, HGSS and FRLG were.
>it’s pretty blatant that these things that happen the same way to different people somehow mean they’re the same person
This doesn’t actually prove anything. Stop shilling your fanfic.
>no, the devs camn't be correct, AM DE LORE MISTRESS
Die in a fire, you incel manchild frick. Not my fault you're a low IQ turd who can't understand games for kids.
>b-but the devs!
You’re putting words in their mouth anon. No one’s believing your headcanon, get over it.
Yeah, no-ones like you think you dictate to the franchise. If that WERE true, we wouldn't have homosexual manchildren crying over the thing like you are now. Sorry you're a dumb c**t, but that's why you're STILL crying the series doesn't follow your fiction.
Okay but that’s exactly what you’re doing. All you’re saying is “THEY LOOK ALIKE” and “BOTH MEET RHE SAME MON” When none of that means that they’re the same character. Get the frick off my board with your headcanon, kid.
Not my fault you're a thick troony.
The issue is people buy one game more than the other (Violet suffered heavily from this) so collectivgely, they sold 15m. Individually, they sold on average 7.5m each and realistically, it was an 9m/6m split (as Diamond was more popular than Pearl back in the day and Palkia is still a pink girly thing to little boys).
Legends sucks because its not a new region
>not a new region
name another Pokemon game set in hisui then 🙂
Outdated
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1072224/pokemon-unit-sales-worldwide/
>It flopped for a reason
the reason being the awful release date.
just a few months after BDSP and in the same year as gen9.
>15 million is a flop
The absolute state
>"Yeah, well, a poorly done fighting totally proves that Pokemon fans only want stale turn based games! It's not like poorly done spinoffs have a history of selling poorly or anything!"
Whatever combat Game Freak cooks up in a non turn-based game would undoubtedly be worse than Pokken.
If the combat in a game that's literally nothing but combat wasn't enough for Pokemon fans, then nothing is
It’s a spinoff you moron
samurai kamado is hot as frick holy shit
They reached their full potential: It's called Pokémon Mystery Dungeon.
>hisuian sammurott is the canon legends starter
That’s kinda weird ngl
>Canon
Anon….
I hate how Game Freak adds features and drops them. Strong Style and Agile Style was fricking cool, while the order of turns also worked better. Being 20 levels higher was reworked to still make it act like you can't kill everything in a single hit too and having the auto-battle from SV added to that would have been great. Everybody mentions being able to catch Pokemon outside of battle also which Pal World copied and they should have kept it in. There's also Megas and the other shitty gimmicks too that got dropped instead of improved upon, man frick Game Freak.
Shitfreak didnt design Legends Arceus
Who did then?
I have been saying this since gen 5. They just drop good ideas every new generations. No i'm not the guy that hates gen 5.
Apparently their "excuse" is that they don't want things to be stale.
ARPGs suck
They're a glorified stat check
Actually the entire combat system in pokemon needs to be reworked if its gonna be turn based as its fricking shit
thank god you people aren't in charge, the day pokémon stops being turn based is the day i quit playing. thankfully that'll never happen.
Turn based combat is obsolete. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
>turn based combat is obsolete
Card games debunk that
lmaoooo this fricking cope. Card games their own thing.
typical samurott showing ass
Edgy mooning dog
>Quadrupedal swordman
Yup each day passes and more moronic it becomes
>WAHHHHHHHHHHHH! *Sniff* *Sniff*
Your fanfic will never come true
Cry more
>WAHHHHHHHHHHHH! *Sniff* *Sniff*
Samurottgays when i say that crippling swordmen are moronic
>Regional variant didn't pander to hatebase
>T-the fans are the seething ones!
Cry more lmao
>T.
Nice selfie
precious waterdog
Just wish they didn't go from zero to ANGRE when the see you in-game.
1v1 pokemon is just stale. Its not the battle system at fault but I wouldnt mind seeing an ARPG with a small dex akin to the arena fighter style in Pokken
True, this fight would look and play better in Palworld
they just have to make the next game all double battles and more challenging like the dlc.
singles are the main reason for boring battles.
they fricked themselves by giving into vanguard or blackrock, which ever one invested in them, and now push their DEI bullshit.
Localization took away context
theyre on a homebrew engine that is so broken and busted but theyre in too deep to fix it
they dont have any consistency in models across gens so what little care they put into characters doesnt matter
they rely too heavily on kanto despite their own nation's top voted charts showing they dont give a frick about kanto pander
theyre afraid to take chances because for some reason they listen to schizos on twitter instead of looking at raw data and sales
imagine if we had a truly creatively free world, without worry of ESG ratings they choose to adhere to because frick the west for that.
frick it so hard. the west ruined EVERYTHING. you can tell based off the additional content they greenlight.
Kanto is the most-popular game region in Japan, you dumb c**t, TPCi's investors have no effect on the owners of TPC (they're just funding the american advertising pool for american consumers, given noe of this shit is being parroted in EU where I am) and you;re too far up your own arse to understand they never WANTED to make these games for adults, else you never would have *gotten* a kiddy starting Gen, as they'd have pivoted to making them for adults from Gen 2 onwards and selling them at an age rating appropriate for teenagers and adults instead of pre-teen primary school children, like they always fricking have.
the kids of japan get less stupid shit than the kids of america.
Western ESG fricked everything up and you can tell. I'm not asking for a blood covered frick fest horror shooter you dipshit.
"teen" ratings in japan include way more shit, nuance, depth, etc, than anything america will produce.
Cool, play games aimed at nip teens then, because Pokémon doesn't care, doesn't seek that market, doesn't rely on that market and as a result don't need to or want to change how they do shit to make kiddy games. It's staggering how you incel fricks just can't comprehend you're fricking insignificant to the millions of children and casual adults content to trapise contentedly through Game Freak's latest offering, instead of pitching a b***h fit it needs to give a frick for a market and demographic it never once needed to sell toys to kids.
Give me a good example of a non turn based pokemon that keeps at least most of the monsters, moves and mechanics (i.e. types and abilities) and doesn't suck ass to play, doesn't take 30 years to develop, while also keeping things balanced, because multiplayer can't be culled entirely.
Palworld
Palworld is a survival shooter
this isn't really true. A lot of what people "want" in a pokemon has nothing to do with the combat at all. The combat itself isn't even bad give or take some balance issues. That said the games barely require any competence from the player
People like pokémon because of turn based combat
Monster catching just isn't a genre that can be done without turn based combat
>Monster catching just isn't a genre that can be done without turn based combat
I want to say this is not true, hell arceus allows you to catch without even starting combat
Speaking of the catch.
The capture in Palworld sucks, it's the worst thing in the game
People like Pokemon regardless of what the frick you can do in the game but adding ARPG to the gameplay would easily increase the revenue
>People like Pokemon regardless of what the frick you can do in the game
Then why do spinoffs sell less than the mainline games?
I’m talking specifically about the mainline games and outside of its current playerbase there is a large audience waiting for a better combat system
non-Turn based eh?
>X used Earthquake
>Enemy pokemon jumps up
>It had no effect
i prefer them turn based. it means i can listen to podcasts while playing. would have to devote too much attention if they werent turn based.
Maybe, just maybe an spinoff ARPG, but mainline pokemon is an RPG at core, if you don't like that play something else homosexual
Pokemon would do well with an active time battle system like an MMO. You queue up commands and try to anticipate and react to your opponent's moves.