Ash is definitely losing to Cynthia. What else is the track "Weakness" meant to be used for?

Ash is definitely losing to Cynthia. What else is the track "Weakness" meant to be used for? It certainly couldn't just be used for a brief struggle for Mega Lucario against Garchomp, it's gonna be used when Lucario is about to be defeated or is defeated. The only way I could see this track being used in a non-jobbed ash way is if he barely wins against Cynthia but Lucario faints soon after winning, making him lose confidence in beating Leon.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Um maybe a moment of self reflection before defeating Cynthia?

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cope

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ash will defeat Cynthia. Then Ash will defeat Leon even harder because Leon is weaker than Cynthia.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cynthia is nerfed pretty heavily, the only reason is for Lucario to win
    Nerfing Garchomp only for him to still win doesnt make sense

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She wasn't nerfed and neither were her pokemon, Ash is the MC and Cynthia, like every champion, loses to MCs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if she wasnt nerfed then show me her Mega evolved ace in the Ash match
        as well as its Ground move that it had inDP

        Checklmate.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She was doing pretty fine without gay megaevolution or do you think she relies completely on it? Checkmate

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Of course her Garchomp needs to be Mega'd to be at full power against the Mega Shillcario
            Had to nerf Cynthia because she was too strong

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ash is the MC and Cynthia, like every champion, loses to MCs
        Yes, only instead of making Ash stronger - they nerfed Cynthia

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You bumfucks parroted nonstop that the o almighty Cynthia can only be defeated by MCs and now that a MC is about to stomp her, suddenly doesn't count? Please get your arguments straight

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >stomp
            >3 episodes fight
            >Ash at absolute limit
            >still needs Garchomp to be nerfed and kept in base to be able to scrape a win
            >"stomped"
            Holy fuck you're retarded

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if she wasnt nerfed then show me her Mega evolved ace in the Ash match
          as well as its Ground move that it had inDP

          Checklmate.

          Cynthia is nerfed pretty heavily, the only reason is for Lucario to win
          Nerfing Garchomp only for him to still win doesnt make sense

          Ash was nerfed heavily, he could have brought an optimized team from reserves and used Z-moves, which for whatever reason are counted by the League on the same level as Mega or Dyna powerups.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Reserves are weak, JN team is canonically strongest.
            Rules are rules

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's not though, JN just writes everyone to be so braindead that they're brought down to JN Ash's level.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She 'maxed her Togekiss instead of megaing her 'Chomp. The writers have hinted at the final outcome already. Cynthia ose, but has her passion for battling re-ignited by Ash, as is his wont.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nerf this nerf that how about you nerf some bitches

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ash's goal for the last 100+ episodes has been to battle Leon. If that doesn't happen, then he accomplished absolutely nothing this series

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ash is definitely lo-ACK!

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cope
    t. Cynthiafag

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cynthia has been THE strongest Champion for the past 15 years until SwSh came along and went "Uh actually this guy with the Charizard is the STRONGEST EVER". Win or Lose against Leon, he is absolutely beating Cynthia. Both because it's a good accomplishment after everything he's done and also because they'll never let Cynthia and Leon fight each other.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Swsh never said he is strongest anything, he is just galar champion.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Correct. This "strongest champion ever" is really only an anime thing.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not even in anime really, since he never battled Cynthia at all there and will lose to Ash

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Swsh says Raihan can compete with other region champions, it's pretty explicit that Leon is strongest.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cynthia being the strongest Champion was actually crowned by the fanbase. Before SwSh, everyone who ever played all pokemon games silently agrees that Cynthia is the hardest champion to beat. There's a good reason why she is regarded as the first Nuzlocke killer. GF somewhat heard about this so they gave Leon a team almost similar to Cynthia in terms of built, bulk, and type variance. But Game Leon will never be able to beat Game Cynthia due to GF insisted on shilling Charizard when Leon can simply replace that jobber with something else.

      tldr Leon can defeat Cynthia ONLY IF he replaces Charizard with something else

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And Cynthia has never been stated to be the strongest champion ever at all. People are just talking out of their asses. Masters basically confirms that Red is the strongest

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not stated, but she does have the strongest in-game team

      and no, Masters anni event confirmed the opposite. She and Red are ~equal, but thats with her using a base Lucario.
      .. but she also has Garchomp and Giratina, so yeah

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Masters
      Trashed. Not worth considering. Masters aren't canon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cope

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Paulo is a literal nobody, you need to find a better source

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can’t wait till Ash vs Red happens and then we can see who’s the strongest

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The way I see it, the only way Ash can logically appear in Paldea and attend school again is to lose in the tournament.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does anybody really want to see Ash in the school setting again given that they already did that with Sun & Moon? Granted the school aspect was literally an afterthought and just an excuse to have him be stuck in 1 location for a majority of the series.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Which is more proof that Ash will be retired from anipoke after M8

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lol cute. I don’t know why this bears repeating but they’ve said repeatedly that the day Ash becomes a Master it’s the final episode of the show. Which is why they kept that definition vague as hell.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And these "they"s you're talking about no longer involved in anipoke since years ago. What's stopping current producers and animators from retiring ash?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because if they were going to retire him they would make it a big deal. I know everybody was expecting this to be his final season but let’s be real he deserves a better send off than whatever the fuck Journey’s was doing with him.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's a better send off than letting him beat the strongest pros in the whole world and win the highest tournament in pokemon world? Care to give a suggestion? Or are you saying that letting him regressed into a Route-1-youngster-tier jobber when he arrived in Paldea and become a schoolboy all over again is the best idea you can come up with?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Let him use his reserves

        I know this is something people constantly say but you might as well bite the bullet. You can still highlight his Journey’s team as the start players

        >Have his past companions/rivals play a major role in this and highlight how far they’ve come.
        Iris and Paul were a step in the right direction but she only appeared once prior to the masters 8 and Paul came in too late.

        >Have a final resolution with Team Rocket
        This one is self explanatory. Dude has basically been a thorn in the organization for a while and the fact that Giovanni hasn’t tried to deal with him personally is shocking

        >Ho-Oh
        Literally anything with this bird. Do something beyond “every time I see it, this a sign for me to refocus on my dreams

        >Dream matches
        We’re finally getting the Cynthia fight after all these years but I want to see him get his rematch against Ritchie. Maybe have him face Kenta/Jimmy from TLOT as a homage to the Red vs Ethan fight in Gen 2.

        Basically if this has to be the end I want them to go all out with this character.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Good ideas but do you think the producers will give a fuck about all these?

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nope. They were too busy trying to figure out what to do with Goh & Chloe.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ash can easily be in Paldea just have him be an upperclassmen based on his status alone.

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