Atelier Mobile releases in 6 days. Thoughts?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.koeitecmo.resleriana
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2586520/ (jp only)
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Atelier Mobile releases in 6 days. Thoughts?
Looks cute
>jp only
Eh.
Doomed to fail.
Atelier already gets boring enough at times and you want to make it an even more boring mobile game?
Nice armpits though
I hope the 3D models of old protagonists like Judie there get recycled for remakes after this EoSs in a year.
>I hope the 3D models of old protagonists like Judie there get recycled for remakes after this EoSs in a year.
You don't want that, the gacha models are censored and have black voids instead of upskirt
>black voids
No, they have shorts.
whats the difference
turn based gachas are the most boring shit ever. I will never understand how star rail and fgo make billions. the story isnt even good either.
>turn based mobile gacha jrpg
waste of a good franchise, it'll be the same low effort cash-in gameplay full of p2w bullshit as every japanese tie-in gacha.
It will 100% kill the Atelier series
the gacha will die within a year, but the series will (barely) survive, and they'll sweep this under the rug like it never happened before trying it again a year and a half down the track.
This is their second atelier gacha. They're not learning.
which is why I said they'll not learn from the failure and try yet again.
Could be a good thing, maybe they'll actually put some more effort in the next mainline game
This gacha is considered a mainline game by Gust themselves.
Yes I know I mean the game after this potential trainwreck
>maybe they'll actually put some more effort in the next mainline game
You don't say?
Ehhh they need to pivot after Ryza carrying them for so long, I don’t mind a shitty gacha in the meantime if it means more time/funding for the next mainline games but if they go the way of Blue Reflection and go 100% into a gacha and let the IP rot then yeah it’s fricked.
If it's a massive success, then there is no need to make actual games that will cost more and bring less.
they'll have to bet everything on the gameplay being good on phones, the censored characters aren't gonna please old time fans, no global release means that their potential market is pretty restricted, so the game will have to be fun to play on a phone to stand out at all
>they'll have to bet everything on the gameplay being good on phones
The gameplay is Nelke "exploration". It's DOA.
from the trailer it looks like turn based combat
>standard turn based battler
that's good on a phone though, have you seen the garbage they play on phones? fgo? uma musume? kantai collection? azur lane? alchemy stars is considered a decently fun game to play on the phone, a standard turn based atelier is leagues above all that garbage
>from the trailer it looks like turn based combat
Yes? That's not what I said though, it's like Nelke with exploration just being walking in a line.
I don't care about that, every stage has always been just a glorified corridor anyways, firis tried going more open world and got shit on for it, if it's a turn based game where you have your usual basic attack / skill / item options then that's pretty good, on a phone, and it looks like there's an ultimate move in resleria too, which is fine, if that gameplay and the alchemy is involved enough then it'll be way above other phone games in terms of gameplay, as long as it's not laggy, annoying or too easy to exploit, the alchemy system's gimmick this time seems to be that multiple alchemists are synthesizing stuff together, I imagine they all have different abilities and stats that influence the outcome, on the face of it it's fine enough, but it'll depend on the implementation
all in all I think what matters is that the turn based combat and the alchemy are fun and work well, if it's fun to play it'll probably do well, if it's laggy, buggy and too easy to break then it'll probably die
>if it's bog standard turn-based combat like every other phone game then it'll be way above other phone games in terms of gameplay
like which games, fgo? uma musume? azur lane? kantai collection? wtf are you talking about, honkai star rail is the closest comparison and resleria is already more involved because of the alchemy system and the ability to use items in battle
Bro turn-based combat with a few skills on cooldowns is as standard as gachas get, how can you not know this? Try Artery Gear, Revived Witch, the BNHA gacha, the OPM gacha, 7 Deadly Sins X-tasy, or Epic Seven, and that's before adding in the faux-SRPGs that do the same thing but on a grid like War of the Visions, Valiant Force 2, or Langrisser. Stop adding your input on shit you obviously don't know anything about.
As for the alchemy system we already know it's going to be a shitshow because you can only do it a few times a day and the characters are from the gacha so it's going to be a matter of pulling the right characters from the gacha to make the best items instead of being a system of experimentation and optimisation like the mainline games.
>chibi shit and autobattlers that have no usable items
b***h stfu, go be a whiny b***h on reddit about shit you have no clue about
I'll see what the alchemy is like in practice when it comes out because I do not trust a single thing you say, clueless whining redditor b***h
>d-doesn't count
yeah, none of them are even close to what resleria looked like, stop adding your input on shit you obviously don't know anything about, redditor whining pissbaby
oh and grandblue fantasy too, the other genre of mobile gacha games is rhytm games like project sekai but those might as well be a different category, it sounds like you're just talking shit because you desperately want the game to fail out of some reddit bandwagoning and have no real understanding of what games make up the japanese mobile gacha game market
>fun to play
It's your standard turn based battler, only thing that will make people keep playing are the characters. Koei will have to abandon their ESG practices if they want the game to stand a chance.
Have they even shown the alchemy part yet?
With these kinds of graphics, are you expected to play for more than a half hour on your phone?
>that high quality Ayesha model wasted
HATE GACHASHIT
It's even worse for characters who never had a 3D model before this like the Mana Khemia ones.
The series already died spiritually years ago. I don't think it's possible for Gust to ever come back and make a new game that appeals to me. If they really are working on a proper new console game then they need to announce it and it must be a full new game not related to Ryza garbage in the slightest. Either that or they should try some new IP again.
Does it have more than 2 skills?
it doesn't matter how many skills it has, it is going to be designed for you to hit the "auto-combat" button and walk away
Sure, just roll for OP characters like swimsuit Rorona. 🙂
>mobile
frick off.
I want to lick her horns
Reddit hate it
how long until they start begging for guides on how to play on the japanese servers?
I'm glad they're wasting two more mediocre artists on this crap rather than either being used for the next real game. Although that doesn't automatically mean they'll get a good one anyway.
hope it's your usual EOS'd-in-less-than-a-year flop
who asked for this?
Shareholders.
>Most anons, who have never bought a traditional videogame and mock those who do as "paypigs" and "buycucks", spend a monthly average of $500 on premium currency and rolls
Gacha did what Nintendo or Steam never managed to; you have to be blind to not recognize Gacha as the future of gaming.
>Gacha did what Nintendo or Steam never managed to
Nintendo did successfully a gacha monetization model. Still going strong after 6.5 years.
Oh yeah, I forgot about Nintendo's gachas; even the much maligned Dragalia Lost lasted five years.
My point still stands.
most anons don't do that. stop being a fricking jerkoff.
What dies first this or the Blue Reflection gacha?
The Blue Reflection gacha is doing very well.
The yuri removal being what the series needed to succeed was kind of obvious on hindsight.
lmao, it's doing what are EoS numbers for many other gachas.
No it isn't; that's a shitpost spammed by the people who liked the (very bland) console games.
It went down from an already low $400k in June and July to $200k in August. I'm sorry if you're invested in it, but it's not going to last long.
blue reflection without yuri? how does that make it better. I play BR for the yuri
>how does that make it better
From a narrative and creative standpoint, yuri is always an excuse for the lack of substance just like shallow western media uses LGBT content as replacement for good writing
From a business standpoint, yuri fans are very loud but very, very few in number so pandering to them is always a terrible idea. You alienate your potential customer base to pander to two or three loud internet keyboard fetishists.
Just look at Valkyrie Drive; it was Marvelous' try at the yuri market and both the game and anime were a massive failure. Meanwhile their main series Senran Kagura had a healthy lifespan of several console games; the console games only got cut off due to Sony's interference but otherwise we would still get them.
They tried again last year with Samurai Maiden and it was another bomb; meanwhile the current Senran Kagura gacha is doing very well.
>yuri is always an excuse for the lack of substance
As opposed to self-insert haremshit? They did it because they think their only option is to pander to the lowest common denominator for gacha, even though Heaven Burns Red proved a successful yuri gacha can be done just fine. Not that it would've worked with Blue Reflection, the issue is the IP itself being too niche and no desperate swerve will move the needle.
>As opposed to self-insert haremshit?
Unironically yes. Writers have to put some effort into the writing and the setting so the girls' attraction and affection towards the MC makes sense and the ongoing events and story beats can be written around it.
Yuri doesn't need to do those things because its target audience is happy as long as two female characters interact.
I hope you didn't write that with a straight face. It's always "I like anon-kun because he's nice and cool". Mel Kishida outright mentioned they had to walk on eggshells to write the MC as the blandest self-insert possible so players could really immerse themselves into him without feeling he'd say something out of line.
It's true and you know it.
"I like anon-kun because he's nice and cool" is a very dishonest simplification of how character interaction on harem or male mc-centered media goes.
Of course a yuri fan would never understand how good (or at least competent, because there are badly written harems) writing works.
>The yuri removal
I'm guessing Second Light has actual Yuri, because having played the first game, I was confused by the sheer amount of "yuri game" comments and reviews I read. There is one goddamn lesbian character in that game, and she gets rejected.
It does.
>cutback on fanservice
>add blatant lesbianism
That's fricking weird. Ah well, I hope the game's still good.
>That's fricking weird.
Not at all; that's how modern media does things: remove fanservice while ramping up the LGBT content.
The thing that surprises me the most is that you consider Blue Reflection to be a good game.
>>The thing that surprises me the most is that you consider Blue Reflection to be a good game.
I loved it, personally. Had a great time the whole way through, and it got better as it developed. Loved the whole cast. Well, except Fumio, but she's alright. It is a bit difficult to replay when you already know what happens.
Anyone know a good Japanese apk site for full paid games and any paid apk sites other than japanese for that matter, just want to play YKW 1 on mobile..
My thoughts is that I'm deep financial stress and I wish I had someone to talk with.
Can't wait to play it.
>Thoughts?
I want Koei Tecmo to die
Koei Tecmo has fully embraced ESG like practices. And theyve gone all-in. So many franchises under their belt with hot girls, wasted
It's gonna come out on Steam so it'll at least be easy to rip the models and uncensor it.
*bans you*
nothin personnel kid
I've only played atelier rorona, but I think visually this looks good, although it seems like it will chug on mobile. Would be impressive if it runs well while looking like that though.
Outside of the new character models it's mostly just reusing assets from the Ryza games.
I see a decent amount of postprocess and grass.
why can't japanese just release gacha games properly? every korean and chinese gacha game has a global release and up to date patches in every region, while with fricking japanese the releases are always delayed, patches take actual YEARS for the western version and they often just completely cut off the western side while keeping japanese servers on, has anyone told them that it's 2023? oh and also
>have to install steam
PUUUUUUUUUUKE
>every korean and chinese gacha game has up to date patches in every region
lol lmao lmfao
Another Eden is catching up with japan and will hit patch parity soon
JP gachage industry is where the worst sort of devs sink down to. There's a reason they're making gacha: being lazy and bad don't sell real games, son, but you might be able to coast through in the gacha market so long as your Art department are good at their job.
Now, for JP only, I can fully understando why the Jap devs really don't want to bother doing Global release after how westoid gatekeepers have spent the last near 20 years now always predictably endlessly shit on JP games, and trying to "correct" them. They just don't want to deal with Californians any more.
>JP only
Ahh, another gacha that will be closed in a few years.
Atelier needs less hags
Atelier needs more Ghosts.
Just accept the series ended on Marie remake.
Could be a worse way to go.
I'm not letting it go until they make Dusk 4. It's not fair that only Arland and Mysterious got their cashgrab extra game.
Atelier Wilbell: Witch of the Dusk World when bros?
>wanting dusk 4 after shitllie
shiggydiggy
it's heckin over
no one cares what pcqueers think
mobilechads win again, game will make $100mil first month
I thought they removed showing dislikes