Not him either, but without the time limit they're all just way too grindy for me. Combat is balanced for having well-crafted gear and a full set of consumables. Used to be you just made stuff "good enough" to save time, or you made one really good bomb or equip piece and skimp on the other stuff.
The alchemy is piss easy.
The time restriction made the series at least more about resource management.
Now you can just make quality 999 items midgame and breeze trough the rest.
This is my problem with the game. It's just too fricking easy. At one point you'll just make a bomb that does like 10,000 damage and just one shot basically anything with it. Just cant bring myself to play 3 since 2 was such a fricking joke with difficulty.
3 doesnt get any harder, it might be the easiest in the series
shame since it has some fairly interesting character abilities to use
doubly ashame since they keep locking the hardest difficulty behind playing the game to completion at least once
This is my problem with the game. It's just too fricking easy. At one point you'll just make a bomb that does like 10,000 damage and just one shot basically anything with it. Just cant bring myself to play 3 since 2 was such a fricking joke with difficulty.
To be fair the time limit ones were even easier. You could oneshot Rorona's finall boss with a single bomb, and it didn't even have to be perfect. I felt like I always had too much time.
I can't really focus on coomer games
I dont get how people play with sexy outfits and mods in games, I just end up too horny to play the game so I just take it out on my girl.
my bud had sexy anime figurines and I want to look up their skirts
I am almost finishing Meruru, then I will finish Dusk games, then back to Arland with Lulua, Sophie 2 since I have already played Mysterious, then Ryza.
I tried the first game but it was shitty atb instead of turn based like all other ateliers and spinoffs I played so I dropped it. And it's not that I'm completely against atb even though I do dislike it, the one in ryza 1 in particular was too fast for me.
Because I already played Sophie 2 and it was so boring that I’m 100% certain that I will never buy another Atelier game ever again. Indie JRPGs are even shittier then nu-Pokemon.
Censored and no fanservice.
And they will continue this trend considering that the gacha added spats to all characters wearing skirts.
So yeah, frick KT.
>ryza constantly on sale >the actual decent games are always full price and even when they do go on sale, it's not by much
They know Ryza is shit and don't even try to hide it
You dont buy dusk/arland (excluding lulua)/mysterious on their own, you buy the trilogy packs which DO go on sale (and are currently 25% off, which is a pittance but still).
Tried to but got filtered by the alchemy. I was searching for a simple alchemy game where I can craft various items in a simple way (find the recipe, this item plus this item makes x item, etc.), Ryza orb system truly makes me moronic.
Im stuck on Overtime in Atelier Rorona DX, getting my ass wiped by the first boss of the first new area after thinking I had a pretty good equipment for my team kinda killed my will to continue.
Based. Firis was the last game to have fair DLC. It was affordable and the dlc characters didn't feel like you needed them to get the full story. But in L&S, they locked important story characters behind dlc. Shameful how greedy KT are.
Because I get framerate drops in Ryza 2 for some reason
I'm playing at 4k max settings which yeah, that's demanding but
I have an RTX 3070 and a Ryzen 5600X. Why am I getting framerdrops?
Also is that an unmodded screenshot? I don't remember the swimsuits ever looking so good
>federica is shit >dian is shit
kala is the only noteworthy new character in 3 (bos doesn't count as he's been in the previous 2 games to some degree).
Even clifford was better than federica/dian.
I'm honestly surprised the writing didn't get any better over those 15(?) years since Rorona. It's always the same late teen, asexual and slightly moronic girl, and her troupe of friends made out of the most common anime tropes with zero depth.
>Latest trilogy are maximum sex
Only the character designs, otherwise Ryza is objectively the trilogy with the least fanservice.
Ryza is also censored btw. >What happened
If you didnt notice, they've been toning down fanservice since Sophie 2.
There is no censorship in the Ryza series
If a feature that was present in Ryza 1 isn't present in Ryza 2 or 3, that's not censorship, that's a new fricking game. Censorship would be removing something that was actually in the game itself. Not removing something that was present in a different game.
You people make me so fricking frustrated because I hate censorship but no one takes me seriously when I complain about it because they think I'm just talking about not being able to look at panties in a game that never had that functionality to begin with
>You people make me so fricking frustrated because I hate censorship
You're full of shit because Atelier is a textbook case of self-censorship over time.
As a matter of fact, you never adress how each iteration progressively got less and less lewd.
Yeah man, it's totally by their own choice to tone down the one thing that can be directly linked to the series getting a boost in popularity. Mmhmm. Just good business decisions.
And as said previously, the characters design is pretty much the only lewd thing about her trilogy, that's not fanservice in itself.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>You people make me so fricking frustrated because I hate censorship
You're full of shit because Atelier is a textbook case of self-censorship over time.
As a matter of fact, you never adress how each iteration progressively got less and less lewd.
That's not censorship that's different games being treated differently by their developers
Say "I wish the games had more fanservice like they used to" not "this series is censored" because the latter is extremely moronic and waters down the meaning of censorship >but the developers didn't make this choice of their own volition
you have absolutely no proof of this please have a nice day
8 months ago
Anonymous
>you have absolutely no proof of this
GUST were devs that immediatly added fully modeled and detailled panties when they went 3D for the first time, they ARE fricking perverts and it's also why all of their game before getting bought by KT had sexual jokes and innuendo.
Also you literally have no proof that they removing fanservice by their own will either homosexual.
The restrictions involve targeting specific age ratings that KT is demanding. For every other game that doesn't give a shit, pantyshots are still there
The last game I played was Ayesha and I'm still thinking about catching up. I dunno, I just haven't felt like playing Escher and Loogy or whatever the next game is. It's hard to sit down and think "Yeah it's time for an Atelier game."
I have to really be in the mood to work my way up to the Ryza games and it's just not gonna happen for a long time.
True but the word fan service has also been tainted by coomers.
It's not just lewd shit, cute girls being cute is fan service, characters interacting in novel ways is fan service, 'undertones' is fan service, frilly dresses are fan service, barrel is fan service.
>True but the word fan service has also been tainted by coomers.
If you're going this route, the word already started being confined to this meaning in the 90s, you're way to late to complain about it or make an argument based on that.
Also >more semantics
As for >cute girls being cute is fan service
Objectively false and this is exactly why you can say that X kirara manga has fanservice while Y doesn't.
It's also the reason why Totori got the high impact sexual violence tag in Emu Land, it wasn't because her outfit was too lewd but rather because of the events she was involved in.
it's shit like all new atelier games
>new
What was the last good Atelier, in your opinion?
the one he played when he wasn’t old and jaded
Not him, but Ayesha was the last good one. I'm playing Ryza1 right now and it's surprisingly decent, definitely better than previous trilogy.
Not him either, but without the time limit they're all just way too grindy for me. Combat is balanced for having well-crafted gear and a full set of consumables. Used to be you just made stuff "good enough" to save time, or you made one really good bomb or equip piece and skimp on the other stuff.
keep seething Mana Khemia/Iris gay.
Ayesha is the last good one
Pirated the first one when it came out. Didn't get very far.
I like her in koikatsu more
I did. The first was the best, the second and third werent as good. I like the open world in the third, even if most of it was useless padding.
Because I'm unconvinced that Gust has ever made a good game.
I finished one and didn't care about the post-game grind
I dropped 2 after reaching the dragon valley
I haven't played 3
The alchemy is piss easy.
The time restriction made the series at least more about resource management.
Now you can just make quality 999 items midgame and breeze trough the rest.
This is my problem with the game. It's just too fricking easy. At one point you'll just make a bomb that does like 10,000 damage and just one shot basically anything with it. Just cant bring myself to play 3 since 2 was such a fricking joke with difficulty.
3 doesnt get any harder, it might be the easiest in the series
shame since it has some fairly interesting character abilities to use
doubly ashame since they keep locking the hardest difficulty behind playing the game to completion at least once
To be fair the time limit ones were even easier. You could oneshot Rorona's finall boss with a single bomb, and it didn't even have to be perfect. I felt like I always had too much time.
>Totori
>easy
It's in the top 3 of the hardest Atelier.
Yeah and it's fricking easy. You get a 2-year extension just to walk through a few more gathering nodes and fight one boss.
But it makes your argument about the Atelier with time limit being easier null.
>Rorona
>Final boss
You mean the golem? How.
I need to play all of the other Atelier games that came before first.
I played it and it sucked. Ryza 3 is easily the worst in the series.
I'm not being duped by coomers again. The series is boring and there's not enough fan service.
Her ass is also lackluster, why?
You made the mistake of playing Ryza's games which are worse than the older games and have less fan service than the older games.
I can't really focus on coomer games
I dont get how people play with sexy outfits and mods in games, I just end up too horny to play the game so I just take it out on my girl.
my bud had sexy anime figurines and I want to look up their skirts
I am almost finishing Meruru, then I will finish Dusk games, then back to Arland with Lulua, Sophie 2 since I have already played Mysterious, then Ryza.
sophie 2 will make you cry
it made me cry
frick man
sophie 2 made me ragequit
she's cute but jrpgs aren't fun
I will also be starting an Ars Magica campaign with Atelier vibes.
I played some of Neptunia and found that cute girl JRPGs are very mediocre so I decided to avoid them altogether.
Already did all 3 games only trannies and fat greasy Wow players dislike it
I tried the first game but it was shitty atb instead of turn based like all other ateliers and spinoffs I played so I dropped it. And it's not that I'm completely against atb even though I do dislike it, the one in ryza 1 in particular was too fast for me.
Any cool and funny mods?
i wanted to buy ryza's bikini in 3 but they locked it behind an entire set for all the characters and i'm not buying that shit
Can I get OP outfit without paying anything? Or is it DLC only?
>Bra and panties
It's probably a mod.
>OP is utterly useless for finding information about the image in the OP
sasuga Ganker
Just creamapi the DLC
>Tecmoslop
Never again.
I don’t play games just because I want to stinkfrick the protagonist
How is the first Sophie game? I didn't care for Ryza, but I loved Marie.
If you like Marie you will like it
Sophie 1 was meh but Sophie 2 is the best atelier game ever. I like tetris alchemy a lot much more challenging than the others.
I tried but it didn't run well on my puter
too expensive
I am poor and I do not know how to pirate
Because I already played Sophie 2 and it was so boring that I’m 100% certain that I will never buy another Atelier game ever again. Indie JRPGs are even shittier then nu-Pokemon.
Ryza!
Censored and no fanservice.
And they will continue this trend considering that the gacha added spats to all characters wearing skirts.
So yeah, frick KT.
>ryza constantly on sale
>the actual decent games are always full price and even when they do go on sale, it's not by much
They know Ryza is shit and don't even try to hide it
You dont buy dusk/arland (excluding lulua)/mysterious on their own, you buy the trilogy packs which DO go on sale (and are currently 25% off, which is a pittance but still).
Tried to but got filtered by the alchemy. I was searching for a simple alchemy game where I can craft various items in a simple way (find the recipe, this item plus this item makes x item, etc.), Ryza orb system truly makes me moronic.
A pity because I fricking adore Ryze thighs.
Play Marie
I saw it on Steam, I like Marie design so much but I tought it's the same alchemy system. It is not?
>filtered by one of the simplest alchemy systems
poor anon.
Im stuck on Overtime in Atelier Rorona DX, getting my ass wiped by the first boss of the first new area after thinking I had a pretty good equipment for my team kinda killed my will to continue.
I love firis
Based. Firis was the last game to have fair DLC. It was affordable and the dlc characters didn't feel like you needed them to get the full story. But in L&S, they locked important story characters behind dlc. Shameful how greedy KT are.
I only finished Totori and Sophie, Atelier games are generally kind of formulaic and boring after the first time.
dropped it after an hour, combat system was horrendous
But I did.
>that Lent downgrade in 2nd
actually soulfull menu
TONED TUMMMYYY??? I thought she was fat
She's literally 10
out of 10
Because I get framerate drops in Ryza 2 for some reason
I'm playing at 4k max settings which yeah, that's demanding but
I have an RTX 3070 and a Ryzen 5600X. Why am I getting framerdrops?
Also is that an unmodded screenshot? I don't remember the swimsuits ever looking so good
install this
https://github.com/TellowKrinkle/atelier-sync-fix/releases/tag/tkr-20230415
THANK YOU
This genuinely sounds like it could be a game changer for me
Okay. How to mod Ryza games?
For me is Federica's cute butt.
>federica is shit
>dian is shit
kala is the only noteworthy new character in 3 (bos doesn't count as he's been in the previous 2 games to some degree).
Even clifford was better than federica/dian.
I'm too stupid and after seeing so many nodes for crafting and etc. got overwhelmed.
I'm honestly surprised the writing didn't get any better over those 15(?) years since Rorona. It's always the same late teen, asexual and slightly moronic girl, and her troupe of friends made out of the most common anime tropes with zero depth.
Does it need to be anything more?
The writing became worse, akshually. There's much less characterization and humor in recent games and literally no innuendos.
her games would unironically be perfect if instead of being atb they were turn based games
i love kala
do these games run well on switch? or are they dogshit?
>Latest trilogy are maximum sex
>New mainline game is gacha and censored
What happened about them...
>Latest trilogy are maximum sex
Only the character designs, otherwise Ryza is objectively the trilogy with the least fanservice.
Ryza is also censored btw.
>What happened
If you didnt notice, they've been toning down fanservice since Sophie 2.
actual schizos
>denouncing literal censorship means you're a schizo
There is no censorship in the Ryza series
If a feature that was present in Ryza 1 isn't present in Ryza 2 or 3, that's not censorship, that's a new fricking game. Censorship would be removing something that was actually in the game itself. Not removing something that was present in a different game.
You people make me so fricking frustrated because I hate censorship but no one takes me seriously when I complain about it because they think I'm just talking about not being able to look at panties in a game that never had that functionality to begin with
>You people make me so fricking frustrated because I hate censorship
You're full of shit because Atelier is a textbook case of self-censorship over time.
As a matter of fact, you never adress how each iteration progressively got less and less lewd.
Yeah man, it's totally by their own choice to tone down the one thing that can be directly linked to the series getting a boost in popularity. Mmhmm. Just good business decisions.
Ryza received a lot of attention because she has big thighs. The thighs have only gotten bigger between entries
And as said previously, the characters design is pretty much the only lewd thing about her trilogy, that's not fanservice in itself.
That's not censorship that's different games being treated differently by their developers
Say "I wish the games had more fanservice like they used to" not "this series is censored" because the latter is extremely moronic and waters down the meaning of censorship
>but the developers didn't make this choice of their own volition
you have absolutely no proof of this please have a nice day
>you have absolutely no proof of this
GUST were devs that immediatly added fully modeled and detailled panties when they went 3D for the first time, they ARE fricking perverts and it's also why all of their game before getting bought by KT had sexual jokes and innuendo.
Also you literally have no proof that they removing fanservice by their own will either homosexual.
You can blame Basednyfornia for treating pixels the same as actual girls.
Pretty brave pulling this shit in a gacha, although Apple is even more moronic than Sony in many regards
Everything from Gust has been censored since 2018
The restrictions involve targeting specific age ratings that KT is demanding. For every other game that doesn't give a shit, pantyshots are still there
Time limits are fricking gay and frick every game with them.
I've finished 1 and am in the middle of playing 2.
Too lazy
But I guess I will get her games (even tough, they might be shit)
By the way, is the anon here, who wants to be Reisalin?
You can be "my" Reisalin, if you want
Got the first one from sale last week. Can't wait to get started!
Greatest battle theme
>female protagonist
yeah,no
>he self inserts in his games
weirdo
I'm not the one who pretends to be a troony
oh you're moronic
So you dont consume ANY media that has a woman as a protagonist?
>Same dev has you frick male ass in BS1 and 2
>Also sucks dick
>Includes threeway
>0 participants are girls
What did he mean by this?
I'm still playing 1
cute bra and underwear
I'm not really sure what the game is about.
I choose to play the superior Dusk Trilogy first.
because anime games are bad
I still didn't finish 3. The story was just so uninspired and lifeless, the writers really gave up.
But finishing 3 gives you bathing suits for everyone
My backlog is obscenely long, I wish I hadn't bought so much stuff
I've played the whole trilogy though
I've played the whole series and ended up dropping Ryza2 halfway though. Maybe I'm too old for this shit.
Because I'm a Meruru kind of guy (or rather a Hanna kind of guy)
Cause it's not real and I won't be able to frick her if I do.
But I've played all 3 of her games
Lila is best girl btw
i playeed ryza 1 and it was boring as frick do people really only play this shit for the coom
too expensive, I'd rather just jerk off to the porn
>Get Honey Come
>Get Ryza mod
>fap
isn't koikatsu better?
Koikatsu looks like trash.
if you play vanilla yes but who does that
>mod
probably banned from nexus
lust provoking image
>people are praising Ryza's thighs
>when Lila has everything better
Why is Lila so underrated?
You're always staring at Ryza's ass when you walk around the world and gathering ingredients
Fair point.
Also Lila is partly furry so it turns off some people
keep getting boner looking at ryza's ass and thighs so i have to change her costume just to be able to play normally without getting horny
serri is better than lila
Only played Ryza 1.
I want to BE Ryza >.<!
I want to be inside Ryza's womb.
not a fan of weeb games
The last game I played was Ayesha and I'm still thinking about catching up. I dunno, I just haven't felt like playing Escher and Loogy or whatever the next game is. It's hard to sit down and think "Yeah it's time for an Atelier game."
I have to really be in the mood to work my way up to the Ryza games and it's just not gonna happen for a long time.
Ryza's physique type considerably increases fertility rates in a society.
Ryza is great in concept but her games are mediocre and completely devoid of fan service. I'll just keep fapping to the porn.
It's all fanservice.
That's great chara design but that is not fanservice in itself.
True but the word fan service has also been tainted by coomers.
It's not just lewd shit, cute girls being cute is fan service, characters interacting in novel ways is fan service, 'undertones' is fan service, frilly dresses are fan service, barrel is fan service.
>True but the word fan service has also been tainted by coomers.
If you're going this route, the word already started being confined to this meaning in the 90s, you're way to late to complain about it or make an argument based on that.
Also
>more semantics
As for
>cute girls being cute is fan service
Objectively false and this is exactly why you can say that X kirara manga has fanservice while Y doesn't.
It's also the reason why Totori got the high impact sexual violence tag in Emu Land, it wasn't because her outfit was too lewd but rather because of the events she was involved in.
is this real?
It's unmodded yea
The jacketless outfit was a pre-order dlc though
I just start to play the first one anon wish me luck :3
How easy is Ryza 3 to pirate? Don't want to give them money unless they remove the censored costumes.
It doesn't have Denuvo and the censorship is only going to get worse, that's all you need to know.
It's such a shame they caved in to people who probably don't even buy the games. Should've went the DOA route and told them to frick off.
>Should've went the DOA route
The entire company is pozzed if you didn't notice, DOA 6 was a failure and all the lewdness was contained in VV.
The point is that they didn't even bother releasing VV to the west cause of all the moral busybodies.
garbage
one of the biggest cases of trying to force people to like it by shoving her into everything
Because im on a internal debate. My logic side tells me this game is shit probably, and my coomer side wants me to do it for her...
Pirate it.
Problem solved.
Your logic side is incorrect