>"Alvin the dragon is the strongest dragon evah! He's larger than the planet and..." >you can kill him by mashing left-click
What a shitty ass game lol
dishonest homosexual, you can't kill him without being a dragonborn, learning a shout that has been erased from memory of man and finally going to sovngarde. I hate this dragon cult dogshit retcon btw, nord lore was kino in Morrowind.
Skyrim is the Elder Scrolls game with the absolute worst, bottom-of-the-barrel lore. Not only is the original "lore" idiotic shite full of nonsensical retcons, the game is just incompetent when it comes to conveying basic lore information.
If Skyrim is the only TES game you've played, then you have zero fricking clue what TES lore is about.
I dunno man
the lore for DS1 is better but the gameplay is better in DS2
DS3 and DS4 have really shitty lore but the game is superior
not to mention DSE and DSI
I played that fricker on release. Basically every item description was some vague tripe and ended with some variation of "What does it mean? ooooo". Of course that shit got changed when scholar released, but if the lore can basically be swapped out with no consequence, it highlights how ill thought out or arbitrary out it all was.
I guess that's par for the course, we are talking DS2 after all. It basically rode on the coattails of DS being "difficult and vague" without the dev's understanding why things worked out in DS.
FNAF's lore isn't even that good, it's just that a lot happens for each game's backstory. It can be summed up as "psychotic engineer kills a bunch of kids over 5$ who end up haunting parody Chuck E' Cheese and new versions of parody Chuck E. Cheese".
Honestly I feel like at least half the lore for Silent Hill is either wild speculation or bullshit made up by the community so it really doesn't even have that going for it
Vomitoreum was so boring, maybe I don't get it, but I just wanted to play a doom shooter, and It was really easy and was like "blah blah rape blah blah" near the end.
Undertale. The gameplay is boring as frick to me, but I highly enjoy the lore. But if someone asked me if they should actually play the game, I'd literally say no.
I love them but the original four .hack games have some cumbersome gameplay that a lot of people didn't enjoy. The lore is extremely deep and well done but you also need to watch animes and read mangas to get all of it.
>removed Atlantropa >removed Burgundy puppetmaster shenanigans >removing German civil war
Devs stuck their heads deep up their asses and lost the plot.
Neat, last I saw on /vg/, they were removing NPP and replacing it with Dem vs Rep politics, based on a leak showing reworked Wallace content as a dixiecrat (dark blue). Was Poland ever finished? How was Ukraine?
Fire Emblem 3 Houses
The fanbase lost their collective shits over the lore of the continent but the game is so ass that you could just park your tank unit in front of the enemies and watch all enemy units die in enemy phase, and they expect you to do this for 4 whole playthroughs
Every game by Amplitude with the exception of Dungeon of the Endless
Every game by Project Moon with the exception of Library of Ruina
NieR and NieR a tomato
Lobotomy Corporation
The gameplay is very finicky. The Abnormalities are randomly chosen and by mid-game a lot can wipe out your facility without you even knowing WHY. But that lore is so good man.
>Every game by Project Moon with the exception of Library of Ruina
based. I love lobco but I have no clue how anons can think its gameplay is good
>Boss does long ass string or is zipping around the room >you can only attack once or twice before you’re put back into the blender >rinse and repeat
You don’t get to dictate the pace of the fight against most bosses
Only became annoying in Elden ring where you have to wait for an enemy to finish their 10 hit combo there are two games where this isn't an issue at all >Sekiro
you shouldn't be giving your opponent an inch to even start attacking >Bloodborne
Lmao just shoot him
>actual
I reject the implication here. A game can be captivating if even one of its elements is outstanding, provided the rest are at least serviceable. If the story, atmosphere, level architecture, or something else grabs me then it's OK if the gameplay design isn't very innovative.
This. Plenty of 'games' that are better than any movie or book and very enjoyable. The best part is they can take their time with a story and it doesn't have to be shoehorned into a couple hours so the popcorn masses don't get bored or theaters complaining they can't show it more often. Plus the interactivity enhances the story.
i fricking HATE gameplay gays.In the vast majority of actually good games, the gameplay is nigh inextricable from the setting, characters, lore, artstyle, sound design, etc. There's only a very select amount of games that can be held up by gameplay alone(like tetris). The result of gameplay gays in the indie scene has been catastrophic. They're treating gameplay systems in a reductionist manner, not thinking about how these systems react with the settings/lore of their games. Meanwhile, their lore/settings are typically just substanceless slop slapped on top of gameplay systems. We need to look at games holistically.
genshin impact and star rail.
the gameplay is fine for both, genshin has more going for it.
The lore is heavy but it's behind padding that people just skip cause it feels like noise after a while
Destiny
I get it man you need a 200 IQ and a masters in English literature to connect all the dots but that fricking gunplay looks like ass and don't pull that "it gets good 300 hours in" bullishit on me.
Half-Life 2. Loved the first and Blue Shift. Never fricked with Counter-Strike, Team Fortress 1 or Opposing Force.
Never played Half-Life 2. Heard it's god.
Watched a let's play of it. Looks barren, boring and dumb. And short. >but but, wow, the society if they're spying on us and le resistance!
Gay, fake, dumb.
Okay so the lore is not that great but it's "pretty cool".
The gameplay is brown corridors, and somehow a toned down version of the original Black Mesa game with weirdly liminal open world and otherwise it's all sewers.
skyrim
The best of both worlds.
Lore gets nerfed with each new entry. Just like everything else in their games.
*Morrowind
I think Elder's Scroll in general always fall prey to that
Boring ass open world stuff
This although they're killing the lore off too because the women working in the company can't understand it.
>"Alvin the dragon is the strongest dragon evah! He's larger than the planet and..."
>you can kill him by mashing left-click
What a shitty ass game lol
dishonest homosexual, you can't kill him without being a dragonborn, learning a shout that has been erased from memory of man and finally going to sovngarde. I hate this dragon cult dogshit retcon btw, nord lore was kino in Morrowind.
Skyrim is the Elder Scrolls game with the absolute worst, bottom-of-the-barrel lore. Not only is the original "lore" idiotic shite full of nonsensical retcons, the game is just incompetent when it comes to conveying basic lore information.
If Skyrim is the only TES game you've played, then you have zero fricking clue what TES lore is about.
>read wikis
>have more fun
Mindbroken by Todd
DS2
it's what makes it better than DS3
>Verification not required.
I dunno man
the lore for DS1 is better but the gameplay is better in DS2
DS3 and DS4 have really shitty lore but the game is superior
not to mention DSE and DSI
ds2 doesn't even have a coherent story
I played that fricker on release. Basically every item description was some vague tripe and ended with some variation of "What does it mean? ooooo". Of course that shit got changed when scholar released, but if the lore can basically be swapped out with no consequence, it highlights how ill thought out or arbitrary out it all was.
I guess that's par for the course, we are talking DS2 after all. It basically rode on the coattails of DS being "difficult and vague" without the dev's understanding why things worked out in DS.
Any game i personally dislike
FlatOut 2 is shit but it has no lore at all.
Fanf , I ain't reading/watching multiple essays just to enjoy your shitty game.
FNAF's lore isn't even that good, it's just that a lot happens for each game's backstory. It can be summed up as "psychotic engineer kills a bunch of kids over 5$ who end up haunting parody Chuck E' Cheese and new versions of parody Chuck E. Cheese".
>gotta watch 60 different videos full of retcons and theories that may not even be accurate to understand the story
And people complain about KH.
The Might and Magic games, especially the pre-Enroth ones.
the frick?
might and magic are the king of gameplay focused RPGs
the "lore" is just an excuse to facilitate it
Silent Hill
Last of us
Last of us has good gameplay the issue is it’s movie segments
They're not an issue. They're great. It's nice to have both.
Honestly I feel like at least half the lore for Silent Hill is either wild speculation or bullshit made up by the community so it really doesn't even have that going for it
lore, history and characters > gameplay
Go watch a movie or read a book you fricking nerd.
You were supposed to seethe at my trip dumb chud
Trails/Kiseki fanbase
MGQ paradox is the only jrpg with mechanics to make girls piss, lactate, cum and vore each other that I've ever come across
Unironically this can be said about every gacha game in the existence .
Genshin actually has pretty good gameplay tho.
>pretty good gameplay
>all you do is press the attack button while you wait for the skill to be ready and that's about it
>all you do is press the attack button while you wait for the skill to be ready and that's about it
>wait for the skill to be ready
>burst
>skill
>Dynasty warrior but the enemies are even more braindead than usual
Come back when mobile shit play like this, moron
eye divine cybermancy
Silent Hill 2
Anything by Scumhead. Vomitoreum is easy as frick and Angel's Gear looks unfinished and rushed; but the lore and artstyle is very interesting.
looks interesting
Vomitoreum was so boring, maybe I don't get it, but I just wanted to play a doom shooter, and It was really easy and was like "blah blah rape blah blah" near the end.
Undertale. The gameplay is boring as frick to me, but I highly enjoy the lore. But if someone asked me if they should actually play the game, I'd literally say no.
Rainworld
>I get it, the porn's good. What about the actual gameplay?
Name it.
Overwatch
Overwatch
pokemon
overwatch
Probably every single AAA.
Animal Crossing?
What is literally every game that comes from countries whose name start with J and ends with N.
Jemen?
I too hate those Jamaican games.
JASON
All Gachas
overwatch
Sonic
Undertale
FNAF
Shantae
Night in the Woods
You must smell lovely.
Gatcha “genre” as a whole
Every JRPG
Pokewatch
I didn't know Overwatch was a game
Never played overwatch.
Know most of their names because of porn.
xenoblade
Kancolle
Source:me
>Deus Ex Invisible War
Literally only worth playing for the story
For me it was Kenshi. I am too much of a bonehead to get into the game to the extent the Kenshi general does.
I love them but the original four .hack games have some cumbersome gameplay that a lot of people didn't enjoy. The lore is extremely deep and well done but you also need to watch animes and read mangas to get all of it.
TNO
How's the community and mod been recently? Surely there it has new content now right?
>removed Atlantropa
>removed Burgundy puppetmaster shenanigans
>removing German civil war
Devs stuck their heads deep up their asses and lost the plot.
Neat, last I saw on /vg/, they were removing NPP and replacing it with Dem vs Rep politics, based on a leak showing reworked Wallace content as a dixiecrat (dark blue). Was Poland ever finished? How was Ukraine?
BG3
every rpg
Mortal Kombat, literally the only fighting game that you play for the story
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
it's really one of those games that are best watched on YouTube.
Dark Souls 1 and 3
Signalis
RDR2
Planescape: Torment.
Fire Emblem 3 Houses
The fanbase lost their collective shits over the lore of the continent but the game is so ass that you could just park your tank unit in front of the enemies and watch all enemy units die in enemy phase, and they expect you to do this for 4 whole playthroughs
>TGA
>STATE OF PLAY
WATCH_DOGS
So true
Destiny.
Caring about fictional video game history is so fricking pathetic
Drakengard
has sick slashy combos and an addicting weapon upgrade system that makes you want to kill more
Wtf? The lore is ass and ripped off of Dark Souls. The gameplay is the only thing it has going for it, unless you really like bug porn.
everything about the game is shit
not even the bug porn is good
Doom eternal
Yakuza 1.
Every game by Amplitude with the exception of Dungeon of the Endless
Every game by Project Moon with the exception of Library of Ruina
NieR and NieR a tomato
>Every game by Project Moon with the exception of Library of Ruina
based. I love lobco but I have no clue how anons can think its gameplay is good
Lobotomy Corporation
The gameplay is very finicky. The Abnormalities are randomly chosen and by mid-game a lot can wipe out your facility without you even knowing WHY. But that lore is so good man.
mai nuggas
Fallout NV
Any Pre-Blade Xeno game
any paradox game
gameplay is a braindead series of checklists, the story you make is the only interesting part
Dark souls and every game that plays like it. I don’t like enemy-centric action game design.
>I don’t like enemy-centric action game design.
?
>Boss does long ass string or is zipping around the room
>you can only attack once or twice before you’re put back into the blender
>rinse and repeat
You don’t get to dictate the pace of the fight against most bosses
Only became annoying in Elden ring where you have to wait for an enemy to finish their 10 hit combo there are two games where this isn't an issue at all
>Sekiro
you shouldn't be giving your opponent an inch to even start attacking
>Bloodborne
Lmao just shoot him
Warhammer games
Lore is better than actually playing any of em (not that they're terrible but the lore is definitely more interesting)
>that hand gesture
Korea bros we need to cancel this fricker
Last of Us 2. Reads like a pretentious fanfiction while also being mind numbingly dull even if the combat was the best part of the game
FIFA
Destiny
Tetris
Destiny
Dark Sovls
>actual
I reject the implication here. A game can be captivating if even one of its elements is outstanding, provided the rest are at least serviceable. If the story, atmosphere, level architecture, or something else grabs me then it's OK if the gameplay design isn't very innovative.
>"I'm satisfied with mid slop."
This. Plenty of 'games' that are better than any movie or book and very enjoyable. The best part is they can take their time with a story and it doesn't have to be shoehorned into a couple hours so the popcorn masses don't get bored or theaters complaining they can't show it more often. Plus the interactivity enhances the story.
I just go for great lore and great gameplay.
Raven the independent mercenary, you're not the mutt I thought you were...
You're below that, YOU ARE A Black person
All souls games.
Dark Souls series and the best part is that the lore isn't even good because half of it is made up shit by autists on youtube.
Final Fantasy XIV
New Vegas
what are some good D and D channels?
FFXIV
Mass effect
Warhammer 40k games
Fallout
Witcher
Overwatch
Warcraft 2 (3 actually rewards you with good gameplay though)
Brigador except the gameplay is just as good
Disco Elisyum
Death stranding
persona 3
What pisses me off is how people started using the world "Lore" to refer to the actual plot of the game.
Hotline Miami 2
Grand Theft Auto
Terraria Calamity
Metroid
alan wake
Morrowind.
%95 of the RPG genre, specially with CRPGs.
genshin, even funnier is that the lore is trash
sex
Super Paper Mario
i fricking HATE gameplay gays.In the vast majority of actually good games, the gameplay is nigh inextricable from the setting, characters, lore, artstyle, sound design, etc. There's only a very select amount of games that can be held up by gameplay alone(like tetris). The result of gameplay gays in the indie scene has been catastrophic. They're treating gameplay systems in a reductionist manner, not thinking about how these systems react with the settings/lore of their games. Meanwhile, their lore/settings are typically just substanceless slop slapped on top of gameplay systems. We need to look at games holistically.
genshin impact and star rail.
the gameplay is fine for both, genshin has more going for it.
The lore is heavy but it's behind padding that people just skip cause it feels like noise after a while
yeah doing missions in genshin and not skipping is hard if only they talked less
Pong
Destiny
I get it man you need a 200 IQ and a masters in English literature to connect all the dots but that fricking gunplay looks like ass and don't pull that "it gets good 300 hours in" bullishit on me.
Bad End Theatre
DOOM
Talking to any sonic fan ever.
horizon zero dawn
Five Nights at Freddy's
League of Legends
Bloodborne
Half-Life 2. Loved the first and Blue Shift. Never fricked with Counter-Strike, Team Fortress 1 or Opposing Force.
Never played Half-Life 2. Heard it's god.
Watched a let's play of it. Looks barren, boring and dumb. And short.
>but but, wow, the society if they're spying on us and le resistance!
Gay, fake, dumb.
Okay so the lore is not that great but it's "pretty cool".
The gameplay is brown corridors, and somehow a toned down version of the original Black Mesa game with weirdly liminal open world and otherwise it's all sewers.
Literally every WRPG ever
Every elder scrolls
I don't care if it is a mediocre zelda clone, story is kick ass.