You have no ability to discern writing quality. BG3 is bad from the first 3 minutes and only gets worse from there. Yes, worse than PoE. Not sure about pathfinder but nothing I've seen looks as utterly moronic as bg3.
His name is Orpheus
HIS NAME
IS ORPHEUS
And he's the prince of a speshul snowflake third faction of the gith that are the true heirs because mommy loved them more and somehow nobody thinks this is a mindflayer psyop and also somehow it isn't a mindflayer psyop, he's a fricking real person.
This is like, fricking, this is like if we just had a third love-and-peace faction of the Ur-Quan who are led by a guy named Dave.
And on this note, Star Control 2, Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey, the full entirety of Shadow Hearts, Ultima 7, Geneforge 5, Albion
Addendum: Specifically the original DS Strange Journey and when I say "the entirety of Shadow Hearts" that includes Koudelka.
Also The World Ends With You, OG DS version no bullshit no gacha girl.
Apparently from a combination of data mining, and inferences and deduction, at some point late in development they radically changed the origin plot and cut a ton of stuff. Not sure why. I think they needed a few more months in the oven at a minimum, shoulda been a Christmas game
It’s sad but you’re probably right. Surprising though. There was a pretty huge amount of hype for BG3 and I don’t know anyone who’s excited for starfield. Well, one guy I used to work with, but he’s a terminal consoomer
fantasy enthusiasts are about the only people that like hard sci fi dude
pretty much no one likes sci fi. we can't even imagine having highways that work. our culture can't even imagine making space ships. so the genres probably steal attention from each other
It's not top tier in terms of writing but it's on par with most Bioware games and the first two Baldur's Gates. People don't come to this game for an Avellone type masterpiece, it's just a fun fantasy adventure.
BG3's writing is far from "merely serviceable", it's actively terrible and immersion-breaking. I'd rank it far below the first games, can't really comment on Bioware as the last game of theirs I played was DA:O and I barely remember it.
That said, I'm having fun with BG3, but that's in spite of the writing and plot.
I was enjoying it until Act 3
Jesus fricking christ, even if they do fix some of the awkward stuff and add the Upper City, the writing and story as a whole is just fricking awful.
The Emperor is Balduran because uhh... umm...
Viconia's and Sarevok's character arcs were basically thrown in the trash and were just made pure evil, Sarevok is just in some random fricking cave in the sewers with the most basic ass boss fight. Hell, Lae'zel's and Astarion's characters almost the same as Viconia's was.
What the actual frick?
Apparently it's some WOTC frickery and they had to use the awful lore they had created, but if you have to do that why include them at all? I'm so fricking mad.
>Apparently it's some WOTC frickery and they had to use the awful lore they had created, but if you have to do that why include them at all? I'm so fricking mad.
Demoralization propaganda. We will shit on everything you used to like because we have complete power over you. You will kiss the feminine penis in the combat wheelchair and like it, bigot.
I mean, that's Larian for ya. There are three things that you can be certain of in their games, that the gameplay will be gimmicky as frick, the writing will be terrible and the game will fall apart around 2/3rds in.
>Apparently it's some WOTC frickery and they had to use the awful lore they had created,
That's a shit excuse, it's just shit writing on Biowares part. The writing breaks WOTC lore.
The only people fooled by your semantic weaselry are other mindbroken morons like yourself.
9 months ago
Anonymous
hey, if you don't want to make sense, that's fine with me, little newbie. but, you need to be laughed at so the other newbies catch on. mindbroken is brainwashed.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You are so obsessed with rtwp you brought it up for no reason. It's a great system for tactical combat there is no good reason to hate it. But shillBlack folk like you have lost your minds over its existence.
9 months ago
Anonymous
that wasn't me, anon, i just want you to use words correctly. but, to help you out, the reason that anon brought it up was to shitpost and bother you. but, you are so mindbroken by rtwp that the merest mention of it in a negative light throws you into a rage and causes you to start theorizing about the mental health of the poster at hand. >there's no good reason to hate it
see? this is an irrational statement. what does "reason" have to do with distaste? >shillBlack folk
i actually haven't even played bg3.
It needs to appeal to the LCD to make a profit. Cannot do anything thqt can potentially be seen as problematic, as seen with how larian gutted the daisy plot line and replacing it with an objectively worse and more stupid one because it was too rapey. WotC probably interfered creatively as well.
I had more fun researching daisy cut and threading through their meme tier code than watching the story unfold in game.
What rpg has a great plot?
Arcanum, Planescape, Disco Elysium
>Disco Elysium
Shit bait
Disco is great, fricktards.
which has nothing to do with the plot being weak. really, "plot" isn't important to rpgs.
none of these have good plots, just well made settings
You tried
no, i think bg3 has a bad plot too, and those games are well made, but the actual plots are actually not that good.
>arcanum
cmon now homie
two of those are not video games
BG1.
Many RPGs have mediocre stories but none are even close to as bad as bg3.
both PoE games are worse. both pathfinder games are worse. and bg3 was bad only starting act 3
You have no ability to discern writing quality. BG3 is bad from the first 3 minutes and only gets worse from there. Yes, worse than PoE. Not sure about pathfinder but nothing I've seen looks as utterly moronic as bg3.
Mass Effect (1)
His name is Orpheus
HIS NAME
IS ORPHEUS
And he's the prince of a speshul snowflake third faction of the gith that are the true heirs because mommy loved them more and somehow nobody thinks this is a mindflayer psyop and also somehow it isn't a mindflayer psyop, he's a fricking real person.
This is like, fricking, this is like if we just had a third love-and-peace faction of the Ur-Quan who are led by a guy named Dave.
And on this note, Star Control 2, Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey, the full entirety of Shadow Hearts, Ultima 7, Geneforge 5, Albion
Addendum: Specifically the original DS Strange Journey and when I say "the entirety of Shadow Hearts" that includes Koudelka.
Also The World Ends With You, OG DS version no bullshit no gacha girl.
It was mid. I liked the dead three plot twist but the chosen were all shit with poor screentime.
Gameplay is still fun. I'll suffer through a poor plot for a fun game.
Act 1 and 2 were great, Act 3 droped the ball hard.
You just feel they cut a shiton of content.
Apparently from a combination of data mining, and inferences and deduction, at some point late in development they radically changed the origin plot and cut a ton of stuff. Not sure why. I think they needed a few more months in the oven at a minimum, shoulda been a Christmas game
Starfield was coming, they had to release earlier
It’s sad but you’re probably right. Surprising though. There was a pretty huge amount of hype for BG3 and I don’t know anyone who’s excited for starfield. Well, one guy I used to work with, but he’s a terminal consoomer
I suspect they ran out of time for QA and excised a large portion of act 3 rather than release it broken.
That's a dumb business decision, they don't occupy anything close to the same niche.
Perhaps the aim wasn't to stay niche
fantasy enthusiasts are about the only people that like hard sci fi dude
pretty much no one likes sci fi. we can't even imagine having highways that work. our culture can't even imagine making space ships. so the genres probably steal attention from each other
Both BG3 and Starfield have massive normie appeal. What are you talking about?
i skipped dialogue and min maxed my characters for combat, i got an all female party because the mercs are ugly
no one but normalgays who dont care about RPGs liked BG3, it's the Witcher 3 of CPRGs
>BG1:Korevas
>BG2:Angry wizardcel
>BG3:Squid Emprah
all of BG had terrible plot
>bg1: the kurgan from highlander
>bg2: the personification of evil from time bandits
>bg3: ???
>Nooo feel shame please stare at this dismissive stern man and don't imagine my crying face
Woman moment!
It's not top tier in terms of writing but it's on par with most Bioware games and the first two Baldur's Gates. People don't come to this game for an Avellone type masterpiece, it's just a fun fantasy adventure.
BG3's writing is far from "merely serviceable", it's actively terrible and immersion-breaking. I'd rank it far below the first games, can't really comment on Bioware as the last game of theirs I played was DA:O and I barely remember it.
That said, I'm having fun with BG3, but that's in spite of the writing and plot.
I was enjoying it until Act 3
Jesus fricking christ, even if they do fix some of the awkward stuff and add the Upper City, the writing and story as a whole is just fricking awful.
The Emperor is Balduran because uhh... umm...
Viconia's and Sarevok's character arcs were basically thrown in the trash and were just made pure evil, Sarevok is just in some random fricking cave in the sewers with the most basic ass boss fight. Hell, Lae'zel's and Astarion's characters almost the same as Viconia's was.
What the actual frick?
Apparently it's some WOTC frickery and they had to use the awful lore they had created, but if you have to do that why include them at all? I'm so fricking mad.
>Apparently it's some WOTC frickery and they had to use the awful lore they had created, but if you have to do that why include them at all? I'm so fricking mad.
Demoralization propaganda. We will shit on everything you used to like because we have complete power over you. You will kiss the feminine penis in the combat wheelchair and like it, bigot.
>suddenly feminine penis out of nowhere
Why are you so obsessed?
>suddenly feminine penis out of nowhere
Precisely the point being made, anon.
I mean, that's Larian for ya. There are three things that you can be certain of in their games, that the gameplay will be gimmicky as frick, the writing will be terrible and the game will fall apart around 2/3rds in.
>Apparently it's some WOTC frickery and they had to use the awful lore they had created,
That's a shit excuse, it's just shit writing on Biowares part. The writing breaks WOTC lore.
They did viconia so fricking dirty. Better to have just left them the frick out of this garbage fire of a game.
>he likes rtwp
your taste is bad
I like both. Though I have to say BG3s combat is so fricking slow and easy it'd benefit from having a rtwp toggle.
Another moron mindbroken by rtwp
You homosexuals are so pathetic.
>mindbroken
we went over this, newbie, that's not what mindbroken means. since if he was mindbroken by rtwp, that would mean he likes rtwp.
The only people fooled by your semantic weaselry are other mindbroken morons like yourself.
hey, if you don't want to make sense, that's fine with me, little newbie. but, you need to be laughed at so the other newbies catch on. mindbroken is brainwashed.
You are so obsessed with rtwp you brought it up for no reason. It's a great system for tactical combat there is no good reason to hate it. But shillBlack folk like you have lost your minds over its existence.
that wasn't me, anon, i just want you to use words correctly. but, to help you out, the reason that anon brought it up was to shitpost and bother you. but, you are so mindbroken by rtwp that the merest mention of it in a negative light throws you into a rage and causes you to start theorizing about the mental health of the poster at hand.
>there's no good reason to hate it
see? this is an irrational statement. what does "reason" have to do with distaste?
>shillBlack folk
i actually haven't even played bg3.
Act 3 is usually where their games fall apart.
anyone know if they are making an unpozzed verssion
>yet another thread
How about you take your meds and stick to one of the other 100 shitposting threa's you've made.
Korevas
i rest my case
i think the thing is that the higher the production values of a game, the more egregious a bad plot is.
It needs to appeal to the LCD to make a profit. Cannot do anything thqt can potentially be seen as problematic, as seen with how larian gutted the daisy plot line and replacing it with an objectively worse and more stupid one because it was too rapey. WotC probably interfered creatively as well.
I got it from a friend.
Anyway, I crit failed the check to open the pod. On I go.
>Anyway, I crit failed the check to open the pod
I’m sorry, Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.
Not a RPG.