So why has BG3, a several-month old rpg, had such better player retention than Palworld, an rpg that came out only a month ago?
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So why has BG3, a several-month old rpg, had such better player retention than Palworld, an rpg that came out only a month ago?
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Palsisters quick!! how do we respond to this??
u-uh REVENGE HAHA!!
cope
Palworld becomes dogshit the moment you reach ingots and BG3 has actual content
Palworld will probably stabilize at a low 5 digit/high 4 digit population of dedicated players still coping that they won't be abandoned.
Baldur's Gate 3 is unironically gonna go down as one of the games of the decade that's why. It's a generational game like Dark Souls, Ocarina of Time, Goldeneye, Skyrim, Super Mario etc. that developers and gamers will look upon fondly and draw inspiration from it for decades
bgs isnt even better than divinity 2 bro but its alright
Why does no one ever discuss the gameplay tho
All we hear about is the bestiality
because the gameplay is dogshit?
BG3 is literally a talking simulator. 90% of the game is talking to npcs., for 200 hours mind you. I have no idea why this game got so popular, in a time when gamers are getting sick of movie games.
Table top D&D-likes are becoming increasingly popular and less of a nerdy niche and BG3 is a well done vidya adaption of a table top adventure
>BG3 is a well done vidya adaption of a table top adventure
lol
lmao even
It's less that BG3 is good and more that 5e is dog shit so their adaptions genuinely make it better to play. If they add Tasha's stuff as DLC it will objectively be superior to pen and paper 5e
because BG3 isn't a movie game
>I have no idea why this game got so popular
It's a good game.
>moron spends his entire time around morons
>wonders why everything he hears is moronic shit
based moron moment
That is the ganeplay!
Because you are on Ganker?
You can go into Unicorn Overlord threads which is Vanillaware shit and there has been more actual gameplay discussion over a demo than there has been in months of Balding Gay 3 threads.
>Buh but muh 4 CHINS!
Frick off. Not an argument.
Ganker doesn't talk about games
The only thing the game has going for it is waifus. That's it, and it's not even a major portion of the game.
If it can convince AAA devs to put real RPG systems back in their games then it'll be a major win
Yeah, I don't particularly enjoy bg3 but if it convinces people turn based isn't dead and that rpgs are viable then by all means, I'll enjoy some of the games that get made because of it.
Because I have been botting the playercount for the past 6 months for my precious frogwife
tencent bots
For starters Palworld literally has no content. There's nothing to build up to, there's no PVP, no trading no mon personalisation nothing.
Then there's the fact that the majority of people who purchased Palworld did so purely to spite pokemon. They don't have any interest in monster tamers whatsoever.
So true. Bunch of spiteful morons.
Spite buying is apparently a very successful business model. Convince people that by buying your game you are pissing somebody they don't like off, and you will sell a metric frick ton of copies.
slop bros, we're going home
BG3 has a very high replayability value while palworld is a one and done kind of game atm.
Chinese bots got turned off.
>Tencent allocated some bots from one game to other other because their net negative trash woke crpg isn't making money back to cover the bot and shill campaign
just lmfao
to this day I don't know what bg3 looks like
what's the core gameplay? just turn based combat? like a strategy game?
it's diablo but combat is turn based, like the diablo devs originally wanted to do
It's a turn based, top down game. But you have dice rolls on top of that that effect the outcome of your turns.
a mediocrity in term of gameplay and fun, shilled by coomers because muh waifus and redditors because marvel type of writing and jokes, while being shilled by journalists because muh no dlc's and finished (only half of the game)
340,000 24 hour high, c**t. It even beats out the latest Chinese fotm Helldivers.
Every single time I've seen a streamer playing Bg3 it was just a cutscene. No gameplay. Also really weird that totally not botted gay 3 has almost a flat line for players. Every other game has ups and downs but Bg3 is weirdly flat.
One is a video game, the other is what AI thinks a tech demo of a video game is
Coomer posting is the earned achievement of a playerbase uniformly content in the design their masterpiece.
posting is the earned achievement of a playerbase uniformly content in the design their masterpiece.
Who unleashed a chatbot into this thread?
I take it you have no counter argument
>Posts bertface
I know it's useless to ask on Ganker, but...u aware brah?
>>I know it's useless to ask on Ganker, but...u aware brah?
Aware of what?
Because balders gate is an actual game with a long plot and gameplay depth. Palworld was another survival crafting streamer bait game that only favela monkeys and chinkbots love
>gameplay depth
>5e
So uh, when are the devs finishing the game?
this just proves gamers crave homosexuality in their games. if 2/3 of your game isnt queer its gonna bomb hard. take notes devs
Larian has been known to pay for bots (likely provided by tencent). It's simply not logical/possible for it to retain so many "players" after this many months. Remember that it only has about 60 hours of content and there's literally nothing else to do after.
Palworld's numbers are also not organic but they don't have the backing of tencent to provide bots for that long.
>Larian has been known to pay for bots (likely provided by tencent)
Proof?
Seconding this. I’ve heard people bring it up but wondering how true it actually is.
Of course it's not true. It's just baseless 4troon slander per usual
Pokeshitters still absolutely anally devastated by Palworld
both are shit
>FOTM trash dies
Who could've forseen this
uhhhhh palworld is a single player game people finish it and move o- what do you mean so is baldurs gate 3?
What's the average completion rate of either?
Both are multiplayer games, dumdum
One of them hides its furries better
bucky seething
>Palworld is dead? Why did no one tell me...
>I'll let the entire office know tomorrow...we'll pack up our things and close down
>Thank you random Discord user
>professional PR guy is easily baited and gets pouty and passive aggressive on social media
Yeah this will end well
>The average palhomosexual
you just know this is the maddest anyone has ever been
>Look kids I'm using a pepe reaction image, aren't I so relatable?
Nice pr guy you have there palkeks
he seethin
How exactly do you bot steam player numbers?
They constantly update the game and claiming they fix everything.
REVENGE
>came out a month ago
It's in early access
That'd be like saying BG3 came out years ago (it was in Early access until August of last year). BG3 early access numbers were not super impressive.
One difference is BG became a completed game, Palshit will never be completed.
Baldur's Gate 3 is a masterpiece.
Its one of those rare games that i immeditately started a 2nd run after i finished it, and to my surprise the 2nd run is just as fun as the first.
This happened to me only few times and i have been gaming for near 30 years.
Doom
Dark Souls
Deus Ex
VTMB
Hitman Blood Money
BG3
New Vegas
Those are one of the few games that i even enjoyed more on my 2nd run than my 1st run.
This is becuase the gameplay is fun, and the game design was immaculate that it can keep you coming back for more and make you enjoy it again in the same way, when the rpg mechanics are good they can offer fun varied experiences and when the gameplay is fun you cant complain even if the game is long like BG3.
One recent example is Elden Ring a game i really loved in my 1st run, i was excited to do the 2nd run because i found many weapons that i couldnt use and i wanted to try the game again, sadly after few hours in my 2nd run i began to lose interest and instead of actually playing the game, all i ended up doing is rush bosses to test how gud i became, when i killed the final boss i turned it off and never played it again, im planning to buy the dlc soon i hope i will be able to dish a new run now after 1.5 years.
ER unlike DS was too big for its own good, and its not new or innovative so it got stale quicker.
Dark Souls 1 was unique and new at the time for me, i even did 5 total runs of it.
BG3 is one of the rare big games that on my 2nd run i did everything, 100% two times because 90% of the things in this game can be done in multiple ways making replaying it a refreshing experience. oh and the combat is one of the best turn based system out there, i can do a 1 hour battle without getting bored.
>Its one of those rare games that i immeditately started a 2nd run after i finished it, and to my surprise the 2nd run is just as fun as the first.
You haven't played many good games if a game hasn't encouraged you enough to do multiple runs of it.
>You haven't played many good games if a game hasn't encouraged you enough to do multiple runs of it.
No, i did, i usually dont like to replay games if i can simply play another good game, but rare exception is when the game is very very good it makes me do a 2nd run and even better when the 2nd run is more enjoyable than the first.
plenty of good games can be fun only for the first time, games that are carried by mystery, puzzle solving, story or few fun gimmicks in a long game that lose their appeal on replays.
>what is this marketing speak bullshit
thats my opinion. i dont care what "fans" say their opinions mean shit to me.
but even going by your made up post its still wrong because i also happen to know tons of crpg fans who agree with everything i said, numbers and youtube channels back up my claim.
Mortismal gaming one of the niche youtubers who cover the genre, played all crpg, recently ranked it 1, played it 11 times and he said its one of his most enjoyable games period.
Persona 5 is mediocre compared to a game like this, i finished P5 once and i never played it again, so boring, so tedious, so much filler, so much reptition, no depth, no tactics, its just a good art style with a nice background music.
afterwards i went to try persona 4 golden, same thing but a little bit better cause it takes itself less serious.
then i tried persona 3 and its easily the worst one, slightly better story but awful gameplay.
what is this marketing speak bullshit, tons of actual crpg fans were talking about how dull this game is and how all its choices pretty much lead to nothing. BG3 is the Persona 5 of wrpgs does nothing better than its predecessors but because of marketing its treated like some sacred cow.
Palworld is also a better game than BG3 by a mile
>Palworld is also a better game than BG3 by a mile
I laughed at least so you get a you.
palworld is fotm slop, just like helldivers.
Gonna fall behind GTA5 soon too. Paltards are increasingly running out of copes for their dead game.
christ you numbergays are insufferable
did botted's gate 3 players finally manage to end the first quest?
Doesn't BG3 have a gigantic mod scene now? I think it's bigger than Starfield
>Doesn't BG3 have a gigantic mod scene now?
And Palworld doesn't? Nobody giving Lovander tiddies and futa horse wiener? Game really did have fake player numbers.
no, they killed it by banning non-woke modders
>another steam charts thread
this should be treated as bannable offense
Someone post achievment stats of both games, I want to see if we can judge how many "players" of both games actually played them
>early acess game made by a handful of people
has the same numbers as the self proclaimed game of the decade that has tencent backing.
No amount of cope will make this industry look good.
>that has tencent backing
tencent have shares, this is not "backing". Larian will now have to pay tencent.
tencent did an investment not a "backing" or "financing "
Palworld supposedly sold singificantly more, yet has less players now than Baldur's Gate 3 does. That speaks volumes more than how big the studio behind either game was.
So China won against China?
> PocketPair
> china
I know its a indie jap company or art they owned by tencent
people return to good games after the fomo game of the month
I can't even tell anymore if people like this are just shit posting or are actually this dumb
Palworld is a game you put your 30 hours into, get your enjoyment, and then are done with it until they add more content. Why are you comparing it to a 200+ hours mega campaign RPG? Many people that started playing BG3 at launch still haven't even beaten it.
You can use very simple math or common sense to understand why the player numbers look like this.
None of my friends have played or have hinted at having interest in BG3. At work none of the guys I talk about games with have touched BG3. Outside of this shithole it’s never brought up and nobody plays it. Just my anecdotal experience but I genuinely believe it’s all one big shill campaign. The threads here never mention gameplay or go into depth beyond coomposting, cuck posting, and le funny bear sex.
My wife's nail salon lady was talking about it. You're just in bubble
>I genuinely believe it’s all one big shill campaign
You're also schizophrenic
Because it's a better game and not flavor of the month streamerbait shit.
The real question is this: which of these games made more money in the end? The one painfully crafted by a large team of people, or the UE asset flip shat out in a year by a 10-man studio?
Chink sloppers…
Doesn't matter, Paldevs already got their 10 minutes of fame and are financially set for life. Most profitable games are almost always exploitative (gachashit, CS gambling boxes etc.)
Look at the player count completely plummet in the last 30 days.
Why can't I go with Lae'zel as a mindflayer?
Orpheus knows and respects me and I will go down in legend as a rebel mindflayer, but I can't prove that by going with them and fighting with them?
Seems odd.
>game that normies take 500h to finish
>vs
>game that you can finish everything in 30h
I dunno you tell me
why did nobody give a single shit about divinity 2, its literally the same game as BG3
BG3 wouldn't even exist if Divinity 2 wasn't such a big success.
>if Divinity 2 wasn't such a big success.
but it wasnt tho
>Palworld lost 95% of its playerbase in 1 month after it peaked.
>Baldur's Gate 3 lost 50% of its playerbase in 1 month after it peaked.
This is how you identify when a game is FOTM. If it loses 90-95% in 1 month, it's not worth it. The specific numbers don't matter, what matters is the % they lost. The numbers just indicate how mainstream it was. Palworld was very normie tier + FOTM.
Just look at Among Us, it only lost 30% in 1 month.
IT'S FRICKING OVER PALSISSIES
tbh it's very impressive that a single player game like baldurs gate still has this many players
it's very impressive yeah. it has a density of design that you usually only see in a game 3 or 4 times shorter
Paltroony here
I must admit defeat
Baldurchads have clearly won
And I will never be a woman...
ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BG3 has bikini armor like angelic scion while Japanese console game got them banned, easy. No wonder why Japanese game got 0 awards in TGA 2023 while Mihoyo got 2.
here's a better question
why do you care?
go play some bideo bames instead of obsessing over numbers that don't affect you
Reminder that they will 100% make Palworld NFTs
>anon is so moronic he doesnt even know what an exchange is
It's over.
I'm just here to say Dragonborn boys are cute and Durge is peak character design
I have 150,000 bot accounts and stock in all of these games. I alternate the accounts between games so these threads continue to endlessly be made and provide free advertising/sales.
It's all bots
I can believe a frickload of people play shitty survival game
I can't believe so many people play shitty rpg
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Cool thread anon but…
He's lucky he's cute
>Palword
FOTM crafting survivalshit
>BG3
Actual good game
Hope that helps
>Baldur's Gate 3
>Game
Your talking simulator is not a game.
Shut the frick up moronic tendie
Be nice to him. Tendies think Golden Sun is a good game, they have no frame of reference because they exclusively play Nintendo.